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If the girls think they can squeeze more money out of someone they will always try. It could have something to do with christmas/NYE though as the demand from mongers is at its peak and the girls can afford to be choosy. A freelancer at another bar said $40LT to me and I laughed. She then dropped to $30 and I said that I only pay $20. So many guys were in the bar she decided to take her business elsewhere which I suppose is understandable. I never ask them the price and have always paid $20 the next morning. Occassionally I have been really tired and given them $10 after one shot and will hand them 2000-4000riel to get back to the bar. The best thing to do is to not appear too eager otherwise you will get taken. If a FL refused to give me 2 pops for $20 then I wouldnt pay her the full amount. Remember there are several places in Cambodia where a ST on their premises (for a barang) goes for $5 so anything more than $10ST is a rip-off (and I'm sure the girls are well aware of this).
I was trying to have Tina for two pops at $20 but she just laughed. I then tried her for all night for $30 but she would rather do ST then come back to Martini to make more money. I would not want an unknown girl in the same room all night anyway for potential theft problem.
The prices seem to be standard for all girls at Martini. One night sitting at the next table to me was an old guy, 3 different girls came by begging him to take them without success. The mamasan kep encouraging other girls to convince this guy. So you could probably get lower prices if you drive a hard bargain.
Remember a bowl of noodle soup will cost about $3.00, sandwich $1.50, beer $1.50 in a bar. So $20 ST is still a very good deal relative to local costs of living, especially when these girls provide good service with no attitude problem.
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]One Wing Low,
Did you try to bargain?
$10 ST & $20 LT at Martini's?[/QUOTE]
I guess the prices have gone up now for ST at Martini's. Well, I will expect it then. I leave in 2 weeks for PP.
Thank You for your efforts. And you are right about life. Max
I think your right that the girls should be happy with $20 ST. No matter the number of pops. $20 LT is more like it. Last year the girls at Martini would go for $20 LT. They might start at $30 but came down to reality quickly. The girls working in hotels and restaurants average monthly salaries is $20 A month.. If they can live off this at then $20 bucks a night is pretty good money .
[QUOTE=Oyster Lover]The girls working in hotels and restaurants average monthly salaries is $20 A month.. .[/QUOTE]I know that monthly salaries for a girl working in hotel or restaurant, even in place like Shangai Bar, is $60 a month but they NEED to add some income from tips or late activities.
Did try that one but the girls were not attractive. The whole gang with about 5 kids were having lunch on the filthy kitchen floor. The were a few farangs sitting in the pink lighted rooms gawking the few girls.
My girl took me to a small, well-worn room where we fucked. I was scared the whole time that someone was gonna steal my wallet and passport. Sovann warned me about this problem and was waiting in the car, but there is not much anyone can help when your wallet is stolen. I fucked her for the experience but would not come back to the meat markets on 63rd st.
You get what you pay for. I think the $20 girls from Martini are better deals than the $5 girls on 63rd st.
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]If the girls think they can squeeze more money out of someone they will always try. ....Remember there are several places in Cambodia where a ST on their premises (for a barang) goes for $5 so anything more than $10ST is a rip-off (and I'm sure the girls are well aware of this).[/QUOTE]
Just had excess bodily fluids drained at Cyrcee. I would say there was only one girl who would classify as being beautiful - but everyone was playful and friendly.
It's a bit disconcerting to enter and be literally swarmed by approximately ten girls, but once I figured they weren't going to pickpocket me I was able to relax, and quite enjoyed the experience. My girl gave me a quite pleasant oral examination, and could not have been more friendly.
Well worth it.
One Wing Low,
That is too funny! You got some kind of experience. I will be hiring Sovann too in a couple of weeks, so I will be curious about the 63rd street scene too! . Likely, I will have the same opinion as you do.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]. I was scared the whole time that someone was gonna steal my wallet and passport. Sovann warned me about this problem and was waiting in the car, but there is not much anyone can help when your wallet is stolen. .[/QUOTE]
If a local driver tells you to beware, then its something that all should pay attention to as this driver is being very honest with his warning to stay away from St 63 brothels.
Note: I had some motodops trying to drive me and lure me to St 63 as some are in on the scam and takes a profit from your stolen goods.
Like I said, Sovann is honest about this.
PT
[QUOTE=One Wing Low] I was scared the whole time that someone was gonna steal my wallet and passport. [/QUOTE]
Why the hell do you take your passport in 63rd?? That's a no-no.
Once I went there with 5$, some 1$'s, cigs and lighter.
After the shower even the cigs were gone. :D
Cheers!
by all the descriptions here, i know that i will not be visiting sophie's. it all sounds too insane & maddening for me to comprehend right now. but will just stop in to take a peek at 63rd street. but then remain at the regular gathering places. martini's, shanghai, sharkey's, rose bar, dv8, etc. i hope that some others describe a few more trip reports before i leave in a couple of weeks. cheers!
[QUOTE=Michi Michi]I know that monthly salaries for a girl working in hotel or restaurant, even in place like Shangai Bar, is $60 a month but they NEED to add some income from tips or late activities.[/QUOTE]
Shangai girls are being dudded by the arsehole new pommie manager.
Wages have been lowered form 80 to 70 to 50 and last week a girl broke an already chipped mug and had 50 cents deducted from her wages.The girls get a dollar of every drink that you buy them so be fair.
The new manager has a rule that if a girl sits with you for more than ten minutes and you don't buy a drink then she moves on!
This guy put a barang customer in hospital a few weeks ago so beware,he is a ****.
I just had a call from a really beautiful khmer girl from shanghai inviting me to go her home in the bush for a few days.These young girls "never go with customer" except when they do.I have taken her and her viet mate out dancing a few times and paid for english lesons for one of them and driving lessons for the other.If one has the time to court these girls they can be very obliging and comparitively low maintenance.
So I found my way up the shady staircase to Sophies Club and knocked at the door. I had never been to a fuck bar before and with the extras that was to be provided on the other side of the door (according to many excellent reports) I had mixed feelings of excitement and worry, to say the least. A smiling girl welcomed me inside and led me to the bar; the room is maybe 5 x 3 m. with the bar disk along half the right hand side and opposite this two sofas. There was only one other guy at the bar, and as I sat down next to him I was immediately surrounded by 8 – 10 girls, all looked quite OK. They chatted very amiable and obliging and as soon as I ordered a beer one of them opened my fly and started a BBBJ, oh so weird and nice! All other girls around me were asking “Go to room with me?” While I had a good look around and chatted with these girls, several girls took turn with the BBBJ without a word. Amazing! When I had made up my mind (a cutie who spoke good English), I gently said "Enough" and zipped my fly. The girls who had done the job said "I'm number one", "I'm number two" etc. and I gave each one a dollar.
My girl took me to the room opposite the bar disk; this room has quite a big bed and a washbasin, so she started by cleaning both herself and me briefly. DATY, cowgirl, doggy and mishy, I think I was overexcited and came a bit too quick. The girl was very nice all the time and we had a cuddle time afterwards; no hurry. I gave her one dollar tip, paid the mamasan 10 USD + 2 for the beer and knew I would come back soon.
MisterMax808: you really should try this!
How busy are the PP bars now after the new year's holidays? Is it slow or bustling?
How's the current economy in PP? Are there many tourist after the holidays in PP?
Anyone there who can answer?
Off Topic. I know I might get banned from here because of it, BUT...
Any one up for tennis in PP during the week of January 15th? I enjoy playing doubles or singles tennis and I am looking for any who would enjoy playing tennis each day of that week? I am an above average tennis player. Anyone available for tennis in PP? I am willing to meet at any of the tennis courts in PP. Now, don't ban me from this website because of this. Thanks!
You can email me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] for your number if you can join me for tennis that week.
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[QUOTE=Prince Harry]Shangai girls are being dudded by the arsehole new pommie manager.
Wages have been lowered form 80 to 70 to 50 and last week a girl broke an already chipped mug and had 50 cents deducted from her wages.The girls get a dollar of every drink that you buy them so be fair.
The new manager has a rule that if a girl sits with you for more than ten minutes and you don't buy a drink then she moves on!
This guy put a barang customer in hospital a few weeks ago so beware,he is a ****.
.[/QUOTE]
Damn Harry,
I heard rumours that the Shanghai owner was a bit rough but never expect him to be that bad. I'll have to make a note of him the next time I visit PP.
PT
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]By all the descriptions here, I know that I will NOT be visiting Sophie's. It all sounds too insane & maddening for me to comprehend right now. ![/QUOTE]
Don't write Sophies off your list before you even arrive there. I may not have had the best time while I visited (maybe an off day for them), but in general its not a bad place to go as they will give you an honest bang for your buck--no cheaters or thieves here so good place to relax and enjoy.
PT
I have added some more details to the excellent map (which I had great use of) by That Asshole 03-18-06. I much prefer walking to taking a moto or a tuktuk, so that map came in handy.
This map is of course not 100% accurate: I have simpified the street grid by making all streets in right angle to each other (it was just much easier to draw it that way) but I don’t think you will notice the difference when you walk ;).
If you find any error (maybe Heart of Darkness is in the wrong block) please tell me and I’ll correct.
Have you guys had any problems with getting a "visa on arrival" at PP airport?
[url]http://www.mot.gov.kh/visa.asp[/url]
1. What kind of proof of sufficient funds do I need?
2. Website says 4x6cm (2"x3", I guess) photo is required, will they take normal US passport size photo 2"x2"?
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Traffic777]Have you guys had any problems with getting a "visa on arrival" at PP airport?
[url]http://www.mot.gov.kh/visa.asp[/url]
1. What kind of proof of sufficient funds do I need?
2. Website says 4x6cm (2"x3", I guess) photo is required, will they take normal US passport size photo 2"x2"?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Unless you have a suspicious or fake passport, Cambo visa at PP airport is a breeze. Just hand them your passport and $20 and passport size photo and you are good to go. Takes about 10-15min (depending on how many people in front of you). Best to bring your own photo as it takes alot longer and about $10 more for them to take your mug shot.
Not sure what you meant by "having proof of sufficient funds"? as I assume you are not planning to retire there. No need to show any proof of money. Only funds I know of is to have the $20 for the visa and some money to get out of airport to your hotel.
PT
[QUOTE=Barri]I have added some more details to the excellent map (which I had great use of) by That Asshole 03-18-06. I much prefer walking to taking a moto or a tuktuk, so that map came in handy.
This map is of course not 100% accurate: I have simpified the street grid by making all streets in right angle to each other (it was just much easier to draw it that way) but I don’t think you will notice the difference when you walk ;).
If you find any error (maybe Heart of Darkness is in the wrong block) please tell me and I’ll correct.[/QUOTE]
Although the simplified drawing of the map not a bad idea, I still think its much better to pick up the free canby PP city map (at any hotel or bar). The scale is exact and you will know exactly how far everything is. The free map covers the whole city and list most of the important places you need. It also folds very nicely to fit in your back pocket. I only used that map (made little marks of places not listed) when I was in PP and never had any trouble as the canby map is 99% accurate (at time of printing of course).
PT
all brothels on 63 st have been closed, due to ngo activity and us money. the pimps yell at male passers by yo,yo,yo. ngo's complaned to govt. Also us embassy says they have to close some brothels every time they dish out some money. this time may be closed a while, as a corner brothel is under some major renovation.
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Remember a bowl of noodle soup will cost about $3.00, sandwich $1.50, beer $1.50 in a bar.[QUOTE]A bowl of noodle soup costs 2500 to 4000 in an ok vietnamese restaurant and 1000 to 2000 riel on the street.
Anyway. One place I did not dislike in PP (chickenfarms, mostly vietnamese, some very beautiful ones) is called toul kok. It is on the street north of the (atleast spoken like Bangkok) lake. Just vis a vis the city guest house. The good places are 4 to 6 farms in a sidestreet just after some karaoke places. Not to oversee at night.
The normal price is 3 to 5 dollars. There is one place I only got down to 15 dollars for 40 minutes with 2 girls. But the girls and the blowjobs were worth it to me.
In the town Sisophon, the places near the railway (the street going to battambang) have also some very good looking girls that give good service. No rush at 150 baht. But no BJ.
[QUOTE=Lee66]all brothels on 63 st have been closed, due to ngo activity and us money. the pimps yell at male passers by yo,yo,yo. ngo's complaned to govt. Also us embassy says they have to close some brothels every time they dish out some money. this time may be closed a while, as a corner brothel is under some major renovation.[/QUOTE]Aare you serious? . Is 63rd really closed now? Are you in pp now? Where will all the business relocate to now?
Coming back to PP after Siam Reap I stayed at Big Luck Hotel: 10 minutes walk to the main P4P area and with a swimming pool on the roof, 20 USD/night, very girl friendly. Unfortunately I had caught a flu, which had a severe effect on my activities.
However, just to check the scene I visited Cyrcée. Same friendly atmosphere as at Sophies: plenty of girls but more customers. In an instant I was surrounded by a handful of girls, but when I told them I had a flu and didn't want to pass it on, all of them but one moved off. The one who stayed had a real beautiful face, although not typical Asian, and when she sat on my lap I noticed she had no panties: she had the most soft pussy hair I've ever touched, like silk. Ada was her name, from Siam Reap, and I almost fell in love with her. Just for the sake of her soft pussy hair I gave her a tip as I left. When I was OK a few days later and returned to Cyrcée, she unfortunately wasn't working that night. Never mind, I picked another girl, and went to a room. Nice and clean room with painted stucco in the ceiling but no bath room: we had to sneak upstairs for a quick wash. The girl said that the bottom room was the best; had shower and AC. Great french kissing, good session and afterwards some cuddling; no hurry at all. Paid the girl 15 + tip and then at the bar 4 for room and beer.
Before going to Cambodia I never thought I'd enter a fuck bar (I absolutely prefer LT), but after a couple of visits at Sophies, Cyrcée and Blue Wave (in Siam Reap) I'm hooked. I have been lucky with nice and friendly girls and got first class treatment from all of them.
At Martinis there are a lot of mama-sans trying to introduce their ladies, but to me they only showed old, ugly ones. After some time I spotted a dark skinned petite girl at the pool table, bought her a drink and chatted with her for a while. She was hesitating in coming with me to the hotel, but one of her friends (a girl that I had rejected) persuaded her. We agreed on 20 for the night. At the hotel I got a surprise: She said "No boom boom, only massage"! She said she was sick in the pussy. I sent her out with a dollar for the moto. The reception actually called back to check if it was alright for the lady to leave.
Next time at Martinis I also took my time. The occasional stunner passed by, but showed no interest. Saw a petite cutie, agreed on 20 USD till 7 in the morning, and off to the hotel. When she had washed the cream off her face she was not that cute any more: a lot of scars after pimples. Sex was lukewarm and I fall asleep after one session. In the morning, when she had woken up I said "Boom boom?" and she said ""Why?". Quite a turn off, but I had a good hard on and fucked her quickly. No tip for that girl, but I gave her a T-shirt, because she had only a night club top and was worried about going out with bare shoulders.
Conclusion: I had a good time with ST pros, but with LT free lancers not so good. Why?
(Maybe [post]548267[/post] ;) )
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[QUOTE=MisterMax808]Aare you serious? . Is 63rd really closed now? Are you in pp now? Where will all the business relocate to now?[/QUOTE]
Dont worry Max,
You're not missing much if they are closed. Just hope they dont relocate to another place (unknown to us) to scam mongers all over again.
At least at St 63 we all knew where they were.
PT
Yes all of them are closed. I was just there ,left on January 6 2007. Does not matter, as they have been going down hill for quite somtime.
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]... I still think its much better to pick up the free canby PP city map (at any hotel or bar). The scale is exact and you will know exactly how far everything is. [/QUOTE]Phantomtiger2, is the canby PP city map same as the 3D PP map? I got that at my hotel but couldn't find e.g. Cyrcée. Even my moto driver didn't know where it was; he had to ask his collegues two times before he found the way.
I had bought a pack of each Kamagra 100mg, Zeagra 100mg, and also Apcalis 20mg (a member once called this "the week end pill") at pharmacy Socheat on street 136 near the market. Five years ago I had erectile problems, and since then I've used a blue pill I found in China. I don't think I really need it nowadays, but I don't take chances ;). Now I wanted to test these pills, especially since the prices are so low in Phnom Penh.
I took the yellow pill at four occasions, all when I planned for a LT; once in Siam Reap and thrice in Phnom Penh.
Now I put it to you that Apcalis has a possible, hitherto undocumented side effect: deteriorated discrimination alternatively bad luck.
For the lady I picked at these occasions see following reports:
1. Phnom Penh: Did not write a separate report. Picked her up at Sharkys, she changed mood totally at the hotel and became very cold and rejecting. After the first session she spent 5 minutes in the shower, cleared her throat over and over again though we not even had had a proper French kiss, far less a BJ or CIM. After a boring second session I got fed up with her and sent her packing. Saw her circling at Sharkys every time I was there.
2. Siam Reap: Zone One Princess [post]547958[/post]
3. and 4. Phnom Penh: Martini Dry [post]547961[/post]
So I ask the ISG panel: deteriorated discernment, bad luck or just a coincidence?
[QUOTE=Barri]..... Now I wanted to test these pills, especially since the prices are so low in Phnom Penh.[QUOTE]Believe my friend, if they are cheap, they are fake and you don't want to try them.
It is very hard to get genuine medicines in Cambodia, apart from one or 2 pharmacies in Phnom Penh that sell Western imported medicines at western prices.
[QUOTE=Barri]Phantomtiger2, is the canby PP city map same as the 3D PP map? I got that at my hotel but couldn't find e.g. Cyrcée. Even my moto driver didn't know where it was; he had to ask his collegues two times before he found the way.[/QUOTE]
No, 2 different maps. The canby map is very detail with exact scale of almost every street in PP. Also list almost every place you need to go (listed location on Canby map will show locations for: Sophie, Cyree, Flamingo hotel, Sharky, Shanghai, Hearts of Darkness, Walkabout, Martini etc.
Note: Also very important as you may need it in an emergency is that the map also shows where all the Embassies are located (hope you wont need that info but nice to know its available).
Like I said (almost) all you need are on this map. Anything thats left out that you may want to visit, just take a pen and mark it on the map (like I did).
You may have missed it as the actual folded map is very small, only about 3inx3in.- but unfolds to reveal lots of info.
Remember the map is FREE, so dont let anyone con you into paying for it.
Cheers.
PT
[QUOTE=Barri]Conclusion: I had a good time with ST pros, but with LT free lancers not so good. Why?
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Its the same everywhere. It really depends on the gal and your luck. Some good ST f**ks turn out to be bad LT. And some LT are just scams.
As you become more experienced monger (hopefully) you will just let it go, make a note to never pick her up again (report it here of course) and move on to your next target.
PT
[QUOTE=Barri]So I ask the ISG panel: deteriorated discernment, bad luck or just a coincidence?[/QUOTE]
I think both bad luck AND coincidence :)
My experience in PP a year ago was quite different:
Some $7 girls was really good was only ST, but I meet LT girls at Martinis for $25 LT having nice nights.
And I met this cutie 21 yo Ina, sorry friends nonude, who stayed several days. She cried when I wanted a brake for some days, did not ask for money at all. But I tipped her, of course.
Barri, better luck next time I hope !
[QUOTE=Barri]Phantomtiger2, is the canby PP city map same as the 3D PP map? I got that at my hotel but couldn't find e.g. Cyrcée. Even my moto driver didn't know where it was; he had to ask his collegues two times before he found the way.[/QUOTE]Hi there Barri,
In my experience the motodups know where most places are but problems occur with Western pronunciation. I was feeling lazy the other week, ok very lazy, and took motodup from Shanghai to Soria centre. I could not believe it when the driver did not know where it was until it was pronounced with a very great emphasis on the final "A" to make it SoriAA Centre.
I have heard some strange pronunciations of Le Cyrcee including something like La Sharee; it even had me wondering if there were two clubs being discussed.
Girlfinder,
Where does "Ina" work at now?
I'd like to look her up when I'm in town next week!
[QUOTE=One Wing Low]Did try that one but the girls were not attractive. The whole gang with about 5 kids were having lunch on the filthy kitchen floor. The were a few farangs sitting in the pink lighted rooms gawking the few girls.
My girl took me to a small, well-worn room where we fucked. I was scared the whole time that someone was gonna steal my wallet and passport. Sovann warned me about this problem and was waiting in the car, but there is not much anyone can help when your wallet is stolen. I fucked her for the experience but would not come back to the meat markets on 63rd st.
You get what you pay for. I think the $20 girls from Martini are better deals than the $5 girls on 63rd st.[/QUOTE]
If you take a girl from Martini's for ST its $10. I have never paid more than that (but usually take the girl all night for $20 which includes three rounds). If I'm tired or the girl's attitude changes after the first round (or she looks like she wants to get back to the bar) I will give her $10 and some riel for a moto.
I dont use St 63 but have been to other places in Cambodia where the price is definately $5 and they dont try to scam you or steal from you as they are usually thinking about your repeat business.
In regards to Sophie's and Le Cyrcee bars, I think Sophie's is better value. If Cyrcee is charging $2 for the room on top of $15 for the girl (and the almost obligatory $2 beer/coke) then its starting to get too expensive for the quality on offer. I asked about LT and the girl told me $30 for her and $7 for the mama - and as its been mentioned before, these arent lookers! One girl tried persuading me that she would do everything I wanted all night, which is possible, but I have that available from Vietnamese girls who are happy with $20. It seems as though a drink at Sophie's IS expected unless you are a regular there and then the mama wont force the issue. If you are the only guy in there you will get a lot of attention for the price of a $2 drink and the sample BJs for $1 are your call. Show interest in one girl quickly and the others will back off. The sofas are more comfortable to scope out the girls than the bar stools too.
And hats off to those of you who DFK/DATY with these girls - you've got more guts than me! One girl at Sophie's hardly washed after I had finished with her and she gave me one of the best BJs I've had in a long time. After a quick splash of water she dressed and just sat down with her friends and waited for the next guy. The last thing I would want is a bad throat infection (or worse) spoiling the next week of my holiday there.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk].... problems occur with Western pronunciation...[/QUOTE]Hi NanaHawk,
Yeah, could have been: First he drove to FCC. Then the guy we asked emphasized [highlight]LE[/highlight] Cyrcée.
Can't find it in my dictionary either.
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Its the same everywhere. It really depends on the gal and your luck. ...As you become more experienced monger (hopefully) you will just let it go, ...[/QUOTE]Phantomtiger2, I appreciate your mature, balanced and knowledgeable comments and replies (this is absolutely not ironic!). Yes I know it is like rolling a dice. As you say, with more experience I might know better when to roll. I suppose one has to gain that experience in each country. But actually I had planned to insert a link to a future report, the "Side effect", after the "Why" as a self ironic grimace, but I got distracted by another discussion. The link is there now.
As for the canby map I had missed that, but will keep it in mind next time.
[QUOTE=Barri]Phantomtiger2, I appreciate your mature, balanced and knowledgeable comments and replies (this is absolutely not ironic!). Yes I know it is like rolling a dice. As you say, with more experience I might know better when to roll. I suppose one has to gain that experience in each country. But actually I had planned to insert a link to a future report, the "Side effect", after the "Why" as a self ironic grimace, but I got distracted by another discussion. The link is there now.
As for the canby map I had missed that, but will keep it in mind next time.[/QUOTE]
No problem Barri,
More experience will definitely help in each country you visit as some are better than others but dont let that fool you either as many of us senior mongers get burn once in a while despite all our precautions, its the nature of the game (with experience you will win alot more but can also lose on occasions).
PT
There is lots of discussion of Sophies and Le Cyrcee but I have seen no mention of the re-opened SOHO2.
SOHO2 is a second floor bar on the same street as Howie and Heart of Darkness. It is in the next block as you walk away from Heart of Darkness.
The bar used to have the theme of the girls being dressed in nurses uniform but it closed down a little while ago. When it re-opened, just before Christmas, it had a new theme and is now a BJ bar run in the same manner as the Star of Light in Bangkok's Patpong.
All of the girls working there are Vietnamese, though the selection was a little limited while I was there. I was told that a recruitment drive will increase the options by now.
There are two tables with curtains hanging from their edges. The girls enter a room marked 'Office' where they can gain entry to a hatchway that allows access to the space beneath the tables.
It's all a little more discrete than Sophies and allows the more shy among us to partake of a BJ while enjoying a beer and continuing our conversations.
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]Shangai girls are being dudded by the arsehole new pommie manager.
Wages have been lowered form 80 to 70 to 50 and last week a girl broke an already chipped mug and had 50 cents deducted from her wages. The girls get a dollar of every drink that you buy them so be fair.
The new manager has a rule that if a girl sits with you for more than ten minutes and you don't buy a drink then she moves on!
This guy put a barang customer in hospital a few weeks ago so beware, he is a ****.[/QUOTE]He was an asst. manager at Sharky's for a couple of years, actually worked at Shanghai Bar for a while before that but had a falling-out with the owner. Shanghai's gone thru 6 or 7 managers since, I guess he's recycling them now. He's an ok guy when sober but that's a pretty rare event.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]There is lots of discussion of Sophies and Le Cyrcee but I have seen no mention of the re-opened SOHO2.
SOHO2 is a second floor bar on the same street as Howie and Heart of Darkness. It is in the next block as you walk away from Heart of Darkness.
The bar used to have the theme of the girls being dressed in nurses uniform but it closed down a little while ago. When it re-opened, just before Christmas, it had a new theme and is now a BJ bar run in the same manner as the Star of Light in Bangkok's Patpong.
All of the girls working there are Vietnamese, though the selection was a little limited while I was there. I was told that a recruitment drive will increase the options by now.
There are two tables with curtains hanging from their edges. The girls enter a room marked 'Office' where they can gain entry to a hatchway that allows access to the space beneath the tables.
It's all a little more discrete than Sophies and allows the more shy among us to partake of a BJ while enjoying a beer and continuing our conversations.[/QUOTE]Went in there last spring, the stairway up was easily the filthiest I've seen in Phnom Phen; a true distinction. The Nurses uniforms were so dirty and stained that the girls wearing them reminded me more of morgue attendents than nurses.
Good to read that they've cleaned it up. They did clean the stairway, didn't they?
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]It's all a little more discrete than Sophies and allows the more shy among us to partake of a BJ while enjoying a beer and continuing our conversations.[/QUOTE]
So there is a trapdoor under the floor?
Continue conversations while enjoying a BJ..... Mmmm, could be difficult!!!!
OK, am looking forward for a FR, and may be on my list on my next visit. I have had a few drinks at SOHO in the past, a couple of cuties there, but was never sure about take-outs or any on premise activities, place always seemed quiet so maybe why it has closed and re-opened with a new theme. Same owner as previously, a Brit I beleive?
[QUOTE=Pak Mike]So there is a trapdoor under the floor?
Continue conversations while enjoying a BJ..... Mmmm, could be difficult!
OK, am looking forward for a FR, and may be on my list on my next visit. I have had a few drinks at SOHO in the past, a couple of cuties there, but was never sure about take-outs or any on premise activities, place always seemed quiet so maybe why it has closed and re-opened with a new theme. Same owner as previously, a Brit I beleive?[/QUOTE]Continuing conversation just adds to the fun (with the right company).
There is no room available for additional services but I believe that the girls can be taken out, if that's what you want.
I'm pretty sure that the ownership has changed, though I heard a rumour that it was picked up for a song due the previous owner/manager just walking out. I don't think I ever met the previous owner but the new owner sounds British.
They also had some problems with the police a few days after they opened but now that they have been resolved I reckon they could become a fixture on the scene.
Hello,, folks
2 recommendations, based on bad experiences I recently had in PNH. Note that these represent a small % of my totalexperiences, so overall, it's been good over the past 10 years.
But I thought I'd share. And mayeb make yo smile.
BJ Bars: I had a BBBJCIM at Sophie's, two days later, drip drip drip, go to the doctor. I am rather confident that BJ was the origin of my buring/spewing. Not sure how to prevent that for next time. Was it an isolated incident? Maybe. It just feels like russian roulette.
SW Pickup: I picked up a SW along national monument. Great looks, no makeup, sweet smile, all I like. While in the room, she wanted to smoke, not cigarettes, but smoke Yaba and some other sort of stuff. What the hell, it was year end so I let it happen.
That stuff is in form of pills or powders, which she burns on an aluminum foil, while she (and later I) inhale through a bang made of a plastic bottle and straws. Needless to say that stuff is great. Happy, love, all great, singing, dancing. But no hard-on: (I must have tried it all, for hours, but could not conclude. So I played with the gurl for hours. She had a fantastic body, but it was frustrating not to execute. Later, she wanted more of that yaba stuff, so I sent her out, and in the meantime, reached for my emergency kit of Cialis, Livitra and Viagra. Took Levitra, nothing happened for 2 hours. Smoked more, then tried boom boom again. No way. Finally resigned to take 50mg Viagra. 1 hour later, the effects appeared, but as usual, weak sensitivity. It was 4 AM. Now she wanted to sleep, so she did, but I could not sleep at all for the whole night.
Woken up by the honking around 7, I insisted to go on and try again. I had to manually conclude, spraying her back. What a shame.
The lesson: (1) Never take that yaba (or whatever) shit. It took me 3 days to come down, during which my emotional barometer was +100 to.10 every 10 seconds. Needless to say, I could have done her 2 or 3 times and enjoy it.
(2) If you do take yaba, do not pay 20 bucks for it. It should be a few bucks at most.
I am sure you guys are more resonable than I was, so no need to remind you of the dangers. And missed opportunities!
Cheers,
BangBangBang
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]Girlfinder, Where does "Ina" work at now? I'd like to look her up when I'm in town next week![/QUOTE]
Try asking for Apple, at a freelance place Hearts of Darkness. She likes playing pool! Maybe you are lucky, would like to hear from you if you find her, good luck :)
Thanks girlfinder, I shall put her on my "list to do" when I am there next week.
I will let you know if I was successful or not.
[QUOTE=BangBangBang]Hello,, folks
2 recommendations, based on bad experiences I recently had in PNH. Note that these represent a small % of my totalexperiences, so overall, it's been good over the past 10 years.
But I thought I'd share. And mayeb make yo smile.
BJ Bars: I had a BBBJCIM at Sophie's, two days later, drip drip drip, go to the doctor. I am rather confident that BJ was the origin of my buring/spewing. Not sure how to prevent that for next time. Was it an isolated incident? Maybe. It just feels like russian roulette.
SW Pickup: I picked up a SW along national monument. Great looks, no makeup, sweet smile, all I like. While in the room, she wanted to smoke, not cigarettes, but smoke Yaba and some other sort of stuff. What the hell, it was year end so I let it happen.
That stuff is in form of pills or powders, which she burns on an aluminum foil, while she (and later I) inhale through a bang made of a plastic bottle and straws. Needless to say that stuff is great. Happy, love, all great, singing, dancing. But no hard-on: (I must have tried it all, for hours, but could not conclude. So I played with the gurl for hours. She had a fantastic body, but it was frustrating not to execute. Later, she wanted more of that yaba stuff, so I sent her out, and in the meantime, reached for my emergency kit of Cialis, Livitra and Viagra. Took Levitra, nothing happened for 2 hours. Smoked more, then tried boom boom again. No way. Finally resigned to take 50mg Viagra. 1 hour later, the effects appeared, but as usual, weak sensitivity. It was 4 AM. Now she wanted to sleep, so she did, but I could not sleep at all for the whole night.
Woken up by the honking around 7, I insisted to go on and try again. I had to manually conclude, spraying her back. What a shame.
The lesson: (1) Never take that yaba (or whatever) shit. It took me 3 days to come down, during which my emotional barometer was +100 to.10 every 10 seconds. Needless to say, I could have done her 2 or 3 times and enjoy it.
(2) If you do take yaba, do not pay 20 bucks for it. It should be a few bucks at most.
I am sure you guys are more resonable than I was, so no need to remind you of the dangers. And missed opportunities!
Cheers,
BangBangBang[/QUOTE]Dude. A couple of things.
First, yuba is meth. I'm suprised you couldn't finish the deal as most guys stay hard for days, but I digress.
Second and most importantly. Stay away from that shit man. If you don't know about meth, read up. I don't mean the stuff you see on the news, but scientific stuff. There really arent too many things more harmful OR ADDICTIVE than meth. Seriously. I enjot a recreational pill now and thewn, and based on accounts of the high I would love to try it. But hell no. I have too much to lose and so do you. Stay the hell away man.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]When it re-opened, just before Christmas, it had a new theme and is now a BJ bar run in the same manner as the Star of Light in Bangkok's Patpong.[/QUOTE]Better than Star of Light I would say, because, strangely, Star of Light has now made a concrete bar so no more hanky panky when you get your drink. You have to sit on the couch and that takes a bit the charm off.
BBB. Sounds to me the girl was smoking heroin. We all like to play with fire sometimes, but not standing ankle deep in gasoline.
A new BJ bar in PP! Wow, that is good news. I'm getting over that way soon, so keep up the detailed reports, oh my brothers....
Time was due for such confessions. 2 years ago I lost almost 10 days of precious holidays in Thailand after developing some kind of ulcer after beeing serviced at a most famous BJ-bar. It scared the shit out of me as I thought it might be syphilis or so. But this was not confirmed at Bumrumgrad. Last year I l enjoyed the welcome at Sophies. 3 girls competing to suck me just after arriving at the bar, had to push one of them away after I felt some "itch", later at the hotel I discover a very superficial bite mark. Believe me, you would not be relaxed until you get your negative HIV test as I did.
When several girls are just to eager to gain your favors, this might just happen but you are definitively at risk places like that. As great as the service basically is, I now totally stay out of BJ-bars now, those girls are bottomline and do nothing else. BBBJ with a casual freelancer is much lesser of a risk. Just my few cents.
In just 8 hours, I will be flying out to Phnom Penh. It will be my first trip to PP, which I hope to share a good experience with this board. In the meantime, thank you all for each post here.
Max!
Varies with taste I guess, but I did not like the Sharky bar, neither the Rose Bar or the kind. I thought the St.63, 130, 136, 144, 154 areas were a lot nicer with less farang (barang). Also, there were a lot of beautiful girls for a reasonable price, with looks that the farang bars would just dream to have. Posted complete report incl P.Pen and other areas in the "general section".
TA
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catching a disease from a bbbj is something that i have thought about but never considered a real possibility of occuring to me. if its going to happen anywhere then sophie's, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s or soi 6 pattaya will certainly be the places to get it! hasn't stopped me from visiting bj bars occasionally but i try not to make it a habit and i might need to resist the impulse for a quick release in the future. to think that some guys dfk these girls - damn!!!
if a girl takes $20 from you and returns with some shit to smoke then its likely she has keep most of it herself and made up a story about the price. ok it could have been heroin which would cost a lot but more likely yaba. a girl i used to see regularly played that scam on me often (but never gave the reason she was buying drugs) saying that the stuff from the market cost way more than i know it did (or she owed someone money and they tracked her down). the only person she owed money to would probably have been her drug dealer, as over the period of a year or so she kept losing body weight to the state of emaciation. the fact she would disappear for no apparent reason for hours then return in a different state of mind (or would cry at any time without warning) eventually made me realise there was something suspicious going on. yeah it was probably obvious to anyone else many months earlier but when a girl has (had) an ultra hot body and a passion for sex, even the best of us can get blinded by lust!
Just arrived in PP two days ago. Tried Sophie and indeed it is fun to see the girls struggling to smoke your cock but the place is quite sleazy, I strongly suggest you to take your private small towel for your cleaning there (and to keep a Zitromax box in your luggage)
I walked along the river yesterday afternoon to check for freelancers like on Pattaya Beach Road but none of the girls sitting there seemed to be looking for bucks. Should I retry in the evening ?
In a previous post here I read about a SW found near the "national monument".Is that the Independence Monument at the end of Norodom Boulevard ? Any other places to look for SW ? Any places with afternoon action ?
Also yesterday evening walked along Str 63 but was unable to spot any brothel ...only deep darkness !
not a great place for street walkers, you can still find some at riverside in evening, at wat phnom in afternoon, and near independence monument in evening, here they have pimps.
You may have troubles for SW in the afternoon, unless they are Vietnamese. Cambodian would never approach you during daytime on the street, fearing to be seen & looked down by a fellow Cambodian.
Around Sharky's I saw a bunch around 8 pm. Also, there are a group of guest houses near the Central market. I would walk around, circling around, one street away from the market, and try my luck. I saw many girls waiting in front of the guest houses after hours.
I guess the key is to invest some time and get a few phone numbers in the evening, even if you don't bang them, then call them the next day, for a snack :) then.... BANG.
Good luck
BBB
this media and guide seems really a good source of information before going on holiday. i have never been to phnom penh but have been reading some of the reports here and have a question as to wether k11 svay pak is permanetly finished and closed? if so has, has the action that took place there just moved to the bars in town?
and i do not mean the alledged **** action, leave that out, please...
i don´t want to know.
do other such "party" villages exist?
[QUOTE=First Lover]. I have never been to Phnom Penh but have been reading some of the reports here and have a question as to wether K11 Svay Pak is permanetly finished and closed? If so has, has the action that took place there just moved to the bars in town?
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Actually, if you have been reading this further back, you will see K-11 closed down permanently at least years ago (thanks to NGO weenies and your govts). Many then moved to St 63 brothels and even thats suffering the same fate. Only difference was K-11 were mostly honest brothels and St 63 are not.
PT
Barri, appreciate your map.
The other option, which I have used, is to use satellite photos from Google Earth. Then you can really see the layout of the city. I've done that & then put the bars & my hotel in position. I don't think I can attach that link. I think in the future, people will be able locate bars by the exact longitude & latitude using Google Earth. Its an amazing tool for when I travel. When in SR you can locate all the temples as well.
Tom
[QUOTE=Barri]I have added some more details to the excellent map (which I had great use of) by That Asshole 03-18-06. I much prefer walking to taking a moto or a tuktuk, so that map came in handy.
This map is of course not 100% accurate: I have simpified the street grid by making all streets in right angle to each other (it was just much easier to draw it that way) but I don’t think you will notice the difference when you walk ;).
If you find any error (maybe Heart of Darkness is in the wrong block) please tell me and I’ll correct.[/QUOTE]
hi lone punter, thought i'd post after reading your posting. glad to hear your HIV test was negative! has anyone ever heard of a guy getting HIV from RECEIVING a blow job? i have done a lot of research on this. from my studies, i've yet to find a confirmed statistic of this ever happening. you do get a lot of "statistically, it is possible possible" reports, but not one incident that has been 100% confirmed. at least not that i can find. gay guys and women can get HIV from sucking. make no mistake, there are numerous confirmed medical reports of this. and of course you can get some STDs from getting a BJ,as lone punter attests. but again, i've not come across one report since 1979 (since AIDs was first publicly discussed) of a guy getting HIV from getting sucked. would be interested in people's opinons, cheers.
Yesterday evening I entered Heart of Darkness (like if there was not enough darkness in PP at night) and found absolutely no girls there, only young male cambodians.
This evening I visited Soho 2 , another useless place, just two girls dancing on the table , both unavailable until 2.a.m. !
Shall I go to Sophie for forth time in a row ???
[QUOTE=Krum Lov]hi lone punter, thought i'd post after reading your posting. glad to hear your HIV test was negative! has anyone ever heard of a guy getting HIV from RECEIVING a blow job? i have done a lot of research on this. from my studies, i've yet to find a confirmed statistic of this ever happening. you do get a lot of "statistically, it is possible possible" reports, but not one incident that has been 100% confirmed. at least not that i can find. gay guys and women can get HIV from sucking. make no mistake, there are numerous confirmed medical reports of this. and of course you can get some STDs from getting a BJ,as lone punter attests. but again, i've not come across one report since 1979 (since AIDs was first publicly discussed) of a guy getting HIV from getting sucked. would be interested in people's opinons, cheers.[/QUOTE]If you were to find a report as you outline I would probably discount it; the reason being that unless you have only been partaking of a single activity with a single individual then it would be almost impossible to attribute the transmission of the disease to that activity.
Circumcised males are thought to be at less risk than uncircumcised due to their being less chance of the skin tearing when the penis is put somewhere under great force. I would expect that a graze on the penis caused by teeth could be an entry point for anything carried in the blood of someone giving a blow job, all they need is to have scoured their gums recently, even using a tooth brush, and bloody saliva could be at large.
Is there a high risk of such infection, probably not else we would hear far more about it, but there is a chance. I do not feel the odds are high enough against me to stop me partaking but everyone will need to make their own choice.
I am here now. Have been with a thai girlfriend for the past 2 days. But she's gone back to BKK now, so it's off to see the sights. I wanted to tell anyone who has never been to PP, it's chaos in form here. I haven't really settled down yet because of the shock to my mind from all the dysfunctionality which seems to function here. Will report more later.
[QUOTE=Ipohdog]Barri, appreciate your map.
The other option, which I have used, is to use satellite photos from Google Earth. [/QUOTE]Thanks Ipohdog.
Yes, Google Earth is amazing in detail! The other day I got an idea: Wouldn't it be great to be able to upload Google Earth Placemarks: the .kmz file? Just testing it for Sophie now...
No, couldn't do it. I have just suggested to Jackson to add the file type .kmz as a valid file type for uploading: [post]551232[/post]. I hope I put it in the correct forum ;)
I mean, if you have Google Earth installed and click the placemark you will have a fantastic trip round the world and hit the place like magic.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]...Circumcised males are thought to be at less risk than uncircumcised due to their being less chance of the skin tearing when the penis is put somewhere under great force.[/QUOTE]I read this about a month ago: New York Times [url]http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9905E0D71531F937A25751C1A9609C8B63[/url] which says: "...The trials were stopped this week by the N.I.H. Data Safety and Monitoring Board after data showed that the Kenyan men had a 53 percent reduction in new H.I.V. infection. Twenty-two of the 1,393 circumcised men in that study caught the disease, compared with 47 of the 1,391 uncircumcised men.
In Uganda, the reduction was 48 percent..."
And BBC : [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4719409.stm[/url]. In the BBC report it says: "...It is thought that the cells of the foreskin are much more susceptible to HIV than cells on other parts of the penis, so by removing the foreskin, the likelihood of infection drops..."
Less skin tear or less susceptible cells? Maybe I try circumcision when I've had my ear piercing...
Met a couple of great Ex pats here. Very helpful guys. Staying at the Big Luck Hotel. It's a very good hotel. Convenience, well run, breakfast included, secure, honest, & privacy and some great rooms. Martini's is the only game in town. 63rd closed down. K-11 mostly closed down. Touk Kol? . Too scared to venture to. The best lookers going for $20 ST at Martini's. You can always get the less all appealing for $10 ST. It's all about first come first served. But with a competitive price structure.
The Khmer girls are very beautiful. But sometimes they give you trouble. Or extortion. The viet girls are very fair & tiny. They don't give any trouble to the BM. 104 street appears a bit run down. Not really the highlight that people say. Maybe I will explore it more today.
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]..... 104 street appears a bit run down. Not really the highlight that people say. Maybe I will explore it more today.[/QUOTE]Give it a chance MisterMax. St. 104 has a few good bars and some that are trying to improve.
Colonial Bar & Flower Bar always seem very quiet.
Rose Bar has lots of girls but they are not all available to take out, some only available to whet your appetite. I have stayed in the rooms above here and have not been dissappointed with them but never did work out which girls would not come upstairs.
Pickled Parrot (?) always seems a little sterile and sometimes raucous. Not one of my favorites but may appeal to you with the sports theme.
Power Bar, on the corner at the end, has a lot of girls and can be good fun.
Bar 104 - never been inside but looks like a nice relaxing bar to have a drink in.
Zanzibar - for me this is the pearl in the street with lots of girls and a lively atmosphere. Coyote Ugly theme is enacted here as some of the most enthsastic bar dancers appear on a regular basis. Try at weekends and weekdays as the ex-pat crowd appear to make it busier at weekends. Because the bar is popular you sometimes find that a lot of girls have been taken and some of the atmosphere is lost. Don't forget that they have an upstairs area and a massage parlour next door.
With all bars, I would suggest trying more than once (may not need more than popping your head thru the door) before writing it off, as no bar is continually brilliant at all times of the night on every night of the week.
Some of the prices being charged by the girls on 104 are a little high with LT being between $30 and $50. When you put a bar fine on top of this then it really starts you wondering if they are worth it.
Have fun.
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two days ago went to wat phnom in the afternoon. Appearently no available girls, was instead hooked by a beggar with child, who followed and harassed me for half the circle of the place endlessly blabbering...until I spotted a girl - surely not a beauty but with a charming smile - who agreed on a $5 ST. Boarded a mototaxi and back to the hotel. Naked was surely uglier then dressed, but even worse her BJ skills really SUCKED...impossible to do anything, gave her 5$ the same just to avoid troubles, but she was not worth even 5 riels.
In the evening went to Sharkeys and spotted a viet gal, asked "how much for short time, blow job only ?" "she answered "15$" "should be 10""I replied "OK,OK 10$for you" she agreed.
Back in room, just after shower and before BJ, she DARED TO ASK "How much you give me ?" "10$ as we agreed" was my answer...."no,no, I told you 15$" she started bitching....after both of us repeating 10 times the same sentence I told her " if you insist on 15$ you can dress up and go" that finally ended the ridicolous discussion and she gave me a so-so blow job.
I wonder was it worth to wake up at 3.30 in the morning in Pattaya to get the fucked Airasia plane at 7 a.m. just to have to argue with a such a spoiled ***** for a blow job ? The only attraction Cambodia had to offer was the fine attitude of sex workers, where has it gone ?
Should I rename Cambodia "Italy 3" (being "Italy 2" taken by Romania already), that is another "land of taxes and self made hand jobs"?
Yesterday evening went to Independence Monument to look for SW. Found one, she asked 20$ (!!!!) for ST . Replied 5$ and went to hotel. Here she started blabbering she did not want make blow job (after promising the opposite before),asked her to make hand job, but even for that her skill sucked. Being her rather cute, I just hugged her on the bed and cuddled a few minutes before sending her away with her TOTALLY UNDESERVED 5$ (again she was not worth even 5 riels).
Went to Sophies, took a girl inside room and after say 20 minutes she started complaining that I was taking too much time, in the other room the light had been switched on/off two times , meaning 3 customers had done their deed there already, while me was slowing down business. Gave up the come, dressed up, paid the bill to mamasan , one of the girl who DID NOT GIVE ME the sample blow job tried to scam me 1$ mixing with the 3 who actually did, moved out of the place determined to never come back.
Now I am trying to anticipate my return flight to Thailand, but being this Cambodia their website does not work correctly and could not change the date of my flight. I am waiting for a reply to the e-mail I sent them to see if I can get out of this shit hole somehow....
Hmmm,
I've been quite regular in PP in 2002-2004, once in 2005, none in 2006 and was seriously considering to return to Cambodia for some fun soon. Have many very pleasant memories abt Martini, Sophie etc. But reading all this it seems not worth it. Better I stick with Manila/AC/Jakarta so far until more promising reports come in here again.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Gaudente]I am waiting for a reply to the e-mail I sent them to see if I can get out of this shit hole somehow....[/QUOTE]
Call them, man. From the website:
Malaysia +60 3 8775 4000
Thailand +66 2 515 9999
Others +60 3 8660 4343
Hope it helps.
Cheers!
i have stayed there a few times, ok location, and also because the staff kinda knows me and they speak chinese (i'm not chinese but 3 years in china did that to me). they use to broadcast porn for free on their tv system...nice. i sometimes take the vip room, which i like because of mirrors all over. great for photos or just enjoying multi-angle action.
during my last stay i was surprised to see on the night table the typical hotel guide with phone dialing instructions, emergencies, laundry service,.... and also 'woman or men to sleep with". bellman advertises that at $40. avoid.
in the afternoon, i tried the in-room $5 massage service. a beautiful, brown skin and perfect body cambodian girl in her 24's came by. her massage, as expected, was sub-standard, but i needed one. towards the end of the session, we started talking massaging the central unit. she started at $40, we closed the deal at $15. we quickly showered, and got under the bedsheets. well, was that girl difficult... could not touch her or kiss anywhere. ok, i understand, sometimes they are reserved. then, when i started banging, she refused doggy style. i only had that one time in japan, and had to pay to get the girl to flip over, but here, no way.... she just would not give me doggy... maybe she was shy of showing her anus, or scared i would try to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her anal? maybe the experts can share light. i sent her back, frustrated.
next day, wanted to give it another chance and specifically asked a vietnamese girl, knowing they are usually less fussy. well, after a lousy massage, she asked for $45. i said $10, expecting her to come back with some more reasonable number, but she did not. i sent her back, with difficulty as she wanted moto money, refusing to leave the room,... angry.
morality: i have not found the recipe to get good in-room afternoon massage and action. 100% hit or miss. but if you get a good one, get her number for repeats, and sharing here!
bbb
A brief report. There's so much to tell, but just a bit of dark humor here. One australian said, "the Khmer girls here lie when the truth would do"! . And that is what I am quickly finding out about PP. The khmer girl will tell you boom-boom, yum-yum, & LT is okay. Agree upon a price. And then when they return to your room with you. They say no do yum yum. Not viet. No LT. Got to go home.
When you push the long term part as agreed upon and pair already to their pimp. She ends up crying all night until you give in & let her go home! . That is life here. Yes, the Philippines is better for one other reason. Some of the girls in the PI are still "soft". Not hardened. In PP, by the time they are "legal" or 18 y/o, they are hardened "Pros"! No shit!
Live & learn. Max
Yesterday evening went to Le Circee : three cute girls, everyone asking $30 for a short time. I wonder if I have "idiot" written on my face.Moved to Sharky, some cute girls there too, everyone asking $20 up for a short time.
What can I say ? Sometimes a good day of abstinence is healthy, and the pleasure of denying such stupid greed people your money far greater of the lousy services they provide.
[QUOTE=Ekspat]Call them, man. From the website:
Malaysia +60 3 8775 4000
Thailand +66 2 515 9999
Others +60 3 8660 4343
Hope it helps.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
With a 2$ minute rate I do not dare to try to change my itinerary by phone.That might easily cost me 40 bucks (just think to spelling your credit card number,your name to someone that speaks Thainglish...)
Yesterday evening I asked a travel agency that told me where the Air Asia office is here in PP, unfortunately it was closed already (closes at 5 p.m.) so I am going there now.
Thx anyway for help.
Just changed my return flight at Air Asia office. It costed me 63$ , about 10 more bucks then the 2,040baht stated by their website that conveniently stops working just before the payment page. Who says that efficiency earns money? inefficiency gets it, if the website had worked correctly Air Asia would have earned 10 bucks less!
On my way back to the hotel the moto driver of course proposed me to see "beautiful girl for 10 bucks" . Said OK ,and indeed the girl was beautiful, but once inside the room the papasan asked for forward payment of 15$...that would have meant 20$ for sure as I did not have 15$ change and who could believe he would have given my 5$ change ? Also, what kind of service may I expect in a place where I am asked to pay in advance an amount higher then the one agreed just one minute before ? Needless to say, I walked away.
Indeed the NGO made a great job in this country. By destroying the sex scene leaving only scammers they created a place that supplies you with both the discomfort of a 3rd world country and a sex life worse then Wasteland. This way they crippled both tourism and retirement revenue ensuring forever misery for this people, and foverer huge salaries for them. Their deadly grip on the country is stronger then ever.
We surely have a lot to learn from those guys.
My wife and I have just returned from another fantastic trip to Phnom Penh. Whenever we go we always stay at the Intercontinental. We know there are less expensive places to stay but we feel the extra comfort and superb service more than makes up for the cost which is a very reasonable 70$ per night and they turn a blind eye to you taking girls back.
On this trip we went back to Le Cyrcee, which as usual was great, fantastic choice of girls, about 30 to choose from, all in the 7-10 range. The charge for short time is 10$ for the girl and they have rooms upstairs very clean. All the girls we had gave both of us oral, plus I had full sex with them while they performed oral on my wife. We find that in Cambodia the girls are a lot more willing to have a girl on girl scene than in Thailand, plus a lot cheaper.
We also went back to Sophies, which can be very off puting from the outside, but do venture up the stairs because its great once you get inside. Not as good decor as Cyrcee, but really good fun. We sat in the bar, the girls took turns giving us both samples of their oral skills. They charge $3 for a sample blow job and they licked my wifes pussy free. The other two guys in the bar seemed to appreciate the show as well.
We also got a driver to tale us to Tuol Kork, only 10 mins by car from centre. This area has certainly taken over from Svay Pak. The road must be a mile long with girls standing on both sides of the road, just cruise along slowly and if you see something you like ask your driver to pull over and then you negotiate the price, short time was $5 they do have their own rooms which are very dirty so we took the girl to a short time hotel on the same road which cost $6 very clean, we had three different girls from this area and were not dissapointed with any of them. I would recommend you try it, but get a driver to take you as lots of Cambodian guys also use this area. We also went to a great fishbowl bar during the day which opened at 2pm and had about 20 very beautiful girls, short time was $5 and the room was another $5 sorry I can't remember the name but I have got a card from this place so I will put its name and address on a future post.
All in all another great trip and we are already planning another visit the end of August so if your in sophies and see a girl getting her pussy licked and screaming in orgasm say Hello.
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[QUOTE=Gaudente]Yesterday evening went to Le Circee : three cute girls, everyone asking $30 for a short time. I wonder if I have "idiot" written on my face.[/QUOTE]
Not sure why they gave such a high price for ST, maybe they meant this rate for LT as I've been offered that before.
Normal ST rates (depending on which gal) should be $10-15 ST when I visited last month.
PT
[quote=bangbangbang].... she just would not give me doggy... maybe she was shy of showing her anus, or scared i would try to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her anal? maybe the experts can share light. i sent her back, frustrated.
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had this happen to me several times when i was in cambo (only happens in cambo and nowhere else). i did ask one of the papa about it and was told its not a position some of these gals are use to (maybe taught about missionary only)and also said it hurts them more in that position when some dicks are too big.
pt
Many of the riverside girls at "104" bar, etc. Are asking for $30 to $35 ST. Plus barfine. Many of the girls at the bars are asking for $20 ST.
Nearly all girls just do ST now. Just like Thailand. You can bargain hard, but the more you bargain her down, the quicker her fondness of you disappears! Heheheheheheeee!
New scam. We went to Lucky Hotel. At the street corners. Where the most beautiful girls (better than Martini's, etc.) are being Pimped. They are by far some of the most beautiful young khmer girls. All legal. Outstanding looks. They are asking for $30 LT. You can negotiate to $20 LT. However, here is the scam. As soon as you get her back to your hotel, she will tell you "no sleep". No LT. You come, she go. You tell that was not the bargain between you & her pimp.
And she immediately starts crying. All the way through the BOom Boom period! Heheheheheeee! . What actresses? . But annoying nonetheless. But to cap everything off. Her Pimp is right downstairs your hotel lobby and calling her every 10 minutes to ask her when's she's finished! . During your Boom Boom and her crying, she is stopping to answer her pimp's cellular phone calls! . Anyway, she leaves quickly.
It's all so funny when you think about it. So long as you take everything with a grain of salt & humor. MAX!
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]New scam. We went to Lucky Hotel. At the street corners. Where the most beautiful girls (better than Martini's, etc.) are being Pimped. They are by far some of the most beautiful young khmer girls. All legal. Outstanding looks. And she immediately starts crying. All the way through the BOom Boom period! Heheheheheeee! What actresses? But annoyng nonetheless. But to cap everything off. Her Pimp is right downstairs your hotel lobby and calling her every 10 minutes to ask her when's she's finished![/QUOTE]I agree with you Max that you have to treat it all as a bit of a joke and not get too uptight about it. Negotiate down a little more and agree just for ST. Time it right and go and find some afters/dessert.
Where is Lucky Hotel, which street corners, I'm game to sample these Khmer beauties?
[QUOTE=Cam Bodia] went back to Le Cyrcee, which as usual was great, fantastic choice of girls, about 30 to choose from, all in the 7-10 range. The charge for short time is 10$ for the girl and they have rooms upstairs very clean. All the girls we had gave both of us oral, plus I had full sex with them while they performed oral on my wife. [/QUOTE]What's that old expression - the family that plays together stays together or something like that? Makes marriage all seem worth it after all!
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]
New scam. We went to Lucky Hotel. At the street corners. Where the most beautiful girls (better than Martini's, etc.) are being Pimped. They are by far some of the most beautiful young khmer girls. All legal. Outstanding looks. They are asking for $30 LT. You can negotiate to $20 LT. However, here is the scam. As soon as you get her back to your hotel, she will tell you "no sleep". No LT. You come, she go. You tell that was not the bargain between you & her pimp.
![/QUOTE]
Best way around this is the tried and proven way. Take unknown gals and negotiate for ST and agree on price. Then tell her (and the pimp) if you like her performance, you may consider LT (also agree on LT price).
Remember not to pay upfront until the actual deed is done.
PT
[QUOTE=Cam Bodia]My wife and I have just returned from another fantastic trip to Phnom Penh. plus I had full sex with them while they performed oral on my wife. We find that in Cambodia the girls are a lot more willing to have a girl on girl scene than in Thailand, plus a lot cheaper.
We also went back to Sophies, they licked my wifes pussy free. The other two guys in the bar seemed to appreciate the show as well.
All in all another great trip and we are already planning another visit the end of August so if your in sophies and see a girl getting her pussy licked and screaming in orgasm say Hello.
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Welcome to ISG, great post!
Not sure if this rates ROD but you should post before your next trip....am sure there'll be a line to sophies to take turns giving free DATY your lovely spouse :)
RLMAO
Anyone around on Saturday (afternoon onwards)? Will be arriving in town and fancy a trip to Tuol Kork but heard so many dodgy things about PP don't won't to go alone. Also up for trying Sophies, Le Cyree etc. later!
Sigui
Hey campers, haven't posted for a while and I see some horror stories here recently. Prices are a little higher than normal because of the busy season but the rip off stories are new to me.
I have been staying at my usual haunt which is chock a block with men from all over the world. When one sits out the front of the hotel at any time o0f day thr procession of beauties is awesome. And I have not heard one word of complaint from any barang man. On the contrary everyone is very, very happy.
I would suggest that some of you chaps are doing something wrong.
I have been here nearly two months now and my language skills are improving so I am now something of an insider and I know and like many of the girls from sharkeys, walkabout, shanghai etc.
The girls suffer from ripoffs as well by areshole men. I know a lovely sweet khmer girl from kompong cham who was in the movie city of ghosts-everyone should watch it. It is PP to T so to speak.
THis girl was in tears at the hotel yesterday because an arsehole italian paid her only 8000 riel long time, I gave her $20 so she could eat yesterday.
She also told us that a few months ago an areshole pom kept her for four days then stole her money and cell phone. When she told the walkabout manager or owner that she wanted to call the police he threatened that she would never work the walkabout again-classy eh?
By thje way this girl is one of the sweetest, most enthusiastic girls that I have met with a killer body.
Anyway back to the thread title-the brothel crawl.
We set off into the heart of darkness the other night, four of us and walked down rue pasteur towards the central market stopping firts at soho2 the blow job bar. Up the dirty stairs and knock on the door to be greeted by the site of sveral sweet viets dancing on the bar top. One was naked-unknown in PP really. A dollar tip ensures that the clothes come off, not bad value really.
There are two long bars with stools and curtains hanging beneath, the girls enter via tunnel. As my mate said viets and tunnels are the perfect match, they would crawl through there with the AK on their back, do the blow job and crawl back.
Then onto to sophies for my first time, I had been put off by some stuff on this board-disinformation by those who want to keep PP to themselves in my opinion. Up the grimy stair, knock on the door and bingo! Several real sweeties including one from kompong cham-always stunning. They were most persuasive and wanted ten dollars which is double the real price as far as I know. But the place has great ambience and some nice women. The KC girl stayed at opur hotel the other night.
My french friend michelle who has serious form in Thailand and cambodia rates sophies blow jobs as the best in the world. We wanted sophies t shirts but they donm't exist. Howver for $1. 80 one can get t shirts made over by the monument to one's own design. Sophies logo is a rabbit with a drink, we would change that to a carrot and put the obviuos slogan on the back, brief and to the point-I GOT SUCKED OFF AT SOPHIES.
The night went on, over the river to PPs best kept secret, the most beautiul bar in an old wooden house on the river opposite what pnom. The sunset is marvellous and the ambience is staggering, no food and take your own girl to experience heaven. However I cannot reveal it's location and no moto knows where it is. Then off to sharkeys, chockas with vietnamese, some stunners. They are asking for $30 but be patient and they will come around. Remember the old adage-in PP you never miss out, you just misss your turn.
Martinis was full of girls in the disco, the new happy man bar run by an ex sharkeys moto is jumping with some nice girls including a stunner from, yeah you guessed it-kompong cham.
Now I am back on line I have much more to report next time including the deaths of three barangs on motos last week and some nasty gun play at the heart.
[QUOTE=Sigui]Anyone around on Saturday (afternoon onwards)? Will be arriving in town and fancy a trip to Tuol Kork but heard so many dodgy things about PP don't won't to go alone. Also up for trying Sophies, Le Cyree etc. later!
Sigui[/QUOTE]I am in town mate but on saturday night I am taking out three women,one white chinese accountant,one brown kamong cham girl and one black as black and very tall girl from svay rieng.Eating and dancing and then who knows.I have hired sok, $25 for the night and gas-he is the cyclo in the movie city of ghosts,watch it to get a real feel for PP.
So the long and the short is I can't catch up but PM me and I will give you some good info including the two bars with the best women,the most expensive women.They ask for $40 to $50 but I believe that they are real top shelf.
This town has so much to offer that I have barely scratched the surace after two months.
Stay off the motos,three dead this week.There are no hospitals here,never forget that.
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]Many of the riverside girls at "104" bar, etc. Are asking for $30 to $35 ST. Plus barfine. Many of the girls at the bars are asking for $20 ST.
Nearly all girls just do ST now. Just like Thailand. You can bargain hard, but the more you bargain her down, the quicker her fondness of you disappears! Heheheheheheeee!
New scam. We went to Lucky Hotel. At the street corners. Where the most beautiful girls (better than Martini's, etc.) are being Pimped. They are by far some of the most beautiful young khmer girls. All legal. Outstanding looks. They are asking for $30 LT. You can negotiate to $20 LT. However, here is the scam. As soon as you get her back to your hotel, she will tell you "no sleep". No LT. You come, she go. You tell that was not the bargain between you & her pimp.
And she immediately starts crying. All the way through the BOom Boom period! Heheheheheeee! . What actresses? . But annoying nonetheless. But to cap everything off. Her Pimp is right downstairs your hotel lobby and calling her every 10 minutes to ask her when's she's finished! . During your Boom Boom and her crying, she is stopping to answer her pimp's cellular phone calls! . Anyway, she leaves quickly.
It's all so funny when you think about it. So long as you take everything with a grain of salt & humor. MAX![/QUOTE]
I wonder where is the fun in being scammed 20$.Cambodians seems good only to whining and scamming. I strongly advice to avoid Cambodia as a mongering destination.
[QUOTE=MarkLatham]Hey campers, haven't posted for a while and I see some horror stories here recently. Prices are a little higher than normal because of the busy season but the rip off stories are new to me.
I have been staying at my usual haunt which is chock a block with men from all over the world. When one sits out the front of the hotel at any time o0f day thr procession of beauties is awesome. And I have not heard one word of complaint from any barang man. On the contrary everyone is very, very happy.
I would suggest that some of you chaps are doing something wrong.
I have been here nearly two months now and my language skills are improving so I am now something of an insider and I know and like many of the girls from sharkeys, walkabout, shanghai etc.
The girls suffer from ripoffs as well by areshole men. I know a lovely sweet khmer girl from kompong cham who was in the movie city of ghosts-everyone should watch it. It is PP to T so to speak.
THis girl was in tears at the hotel yesterday because an arsehole italian paid her only 8000 riel long time, I gave her $20 so she could eat yesterday.
She also told us that a few months ago an areshole pom kept her for four days then stole her money and cell phone. When she told the walkabout manager or owner that she wanted to call the police he threatened that she would never work the walkabout again-classy eh?
By thje way this girl is one of the sweetest, most enthusiastic girls that I have met with a killer body.
Anyway back to the thread title-the brothel crawl.
We set off into the heart of darkness the other night, four of us and walked down rue pasteur towards the central market stopping firts at soho2 the blow job bar. Up the dirty stairs and knock on the door to be greeted by the site of sveral sweet viets dancing on the bar top. One was naked-unknown in PP really. A dollar tip ensures that the clothes come off, not bad value really.
There are two long bars with stools and curtains hanging beneath, the girls enter via tunnel. As my mate said viets and tunnels are the perfect match, they would crawl through there with the AK on their back, do the blow job and crawl back.
Then onto to sophies for my first time, I had been put off by some stuff on this board-disinformation by those who want to keep PP to themselves in my opinion. Up the grimy stair, knock on the door and bingo! Several real sweeties including one from kompong cham-always stunning. They were most persuasive and wanted ten dollars which is double the real price as far as I know. But the place has great ambience and some nice women. The KC girl stayed at opur hotel the other night.
My french friend michelle who has serious form in Thailand and cambodia rates sophies blow jobs as the best in the world. We wanted sophies t shirts but they donm't exist. Howver for $1. 80 one can get t shirts made over by the monument to one's own design. Sophies logo is a rabbit with a drink, we would change that to a carrot and put the obviuos slogan on the back, brief and to the point-I GOT SUCKED OFF AT SOPHIES.
The night went on, over the river to PPs best kept secret, the most beautiul bar in an old wooden house on the river opposite what pnom. The sunset is marvellous and the ambience is staggering, no food and take your own girl to experience heaven. However I cannot reveal it's location and no moto knows where it is. Then off to sharkeys, chockas with vietnamese, some stunners. They are asking for $30 but be patient and they will come around. Remember the old adage-in PP you never miss out, you just misss your turn.
Martinis was full of girls in the disco, the new happy man bar run by an ex sharkeys moto is jumping with some nice girls including a stunner from, yeah you guessed it-kompong cham.
Now I am back on line I have much more to report next time including the deaths of three barangs on motos last week and some nasty gun play at the heart.[/QUOTE]
This is pure misinformation, probably by some hotel or bar owner.
There is NOTHING AVAILABLE at Soho 2 ,apart two girls dancing DRESSED and NOT BARFINABLE. To call the Sophie girls "sweeties" someone must be seriously eye troubled, anyway at least they do smoke your dick (something most other girls will never do, or will do lousely).I renew my call to AVOID Cambodia.
[QUOTE=Gaudente]When I travel abroad, I always use my Bangkok Bank ATM card. It worked with most ATM machines, the circuit is PLUS. Can someone living in Phnom Penh confirm me there are ATM displaying the PLUS logo ?[/QUOTE]
I answer to myself here just to help others who might have my same doubt.
In PP there is now a decent supply of ATM machines, very few compared to Pattaya where there's one each 100meters, but enough to draw your money with reasonable comfort. Both Canadian Bank and ANZ Royal have their ATM machines. In Sorya Market building (it's a 6 story building near Central Market) there are 2 Canadian Bank ATM machines ,one on the ground floor and one on first floor, serving VISA and therefore also PLUS ATM cards (so if you have a Bangkok Bank ATM like me it does work in PP).
On the free PP map you should find in your hotel hall also all ANZ Royal ATM locations are marked with a small light blu diamond.They also serve VISA and PLUS circuits.
Now if just also the sex scene was easy as banking....
Sorry to say, but my first impressions were that those girls did not look like humans. However Cambodia is one of the best mongering place thanks to the aggressive Viet girls.
I would avoid Vietnam due to strong anti-prostitution policies that give rise to lots of scams, abuses, and drive up the price of pussies. It's not worth the time, money and hassle to hunt for pussies in Vietnam.
[QUOTE=Gaudente]This is pure misinformation, probably by some hotel or bar owner.
There is NOTHING AVAILABLE at Soho 2 ,apart two girls dancing DRESSED and NOT BARFINABLE. To call the Sophie girls "sweeties" someone must be seriously eye troubled, anyway at least they do smoke your dick (something most other girls will never do, or will do lousely).I renew my call to AVOID Cambodia.[/QUOTE]
I used to go to Cambodia frequently, but stopped soon after K11 was closed. Nowadays it is a very mediocre destination, though certainly much better than Vietnam, which as OWL has pointed out, is a hassle and rip-off. He is also correct that if one does go to Cambodia, it is best to focus on the Vietnamese girls, who provide, generally, good service. For the most part the Kmers do not, and are also very condom-insistent.
[QUOTE=Opebo]For the most part the Kmers do not, and are also very condom-insistent.[/QUOTE]Any responsible person in their right mind would insist on a condom in PP!
Aside from Africa, Cambo reported to have the next highest incidence of HIV, so odds are not in your favor for going bareback here.
Taking extra precaution should be the standard practice here.
PT
[QUOTE=Gaudente]Yesterday evening went to Le Circee : three cute girls, everyone asking $30 for a short time. I wonder if I have "idiot" written on my face.Moved to Sharky, some cute girls there too, everyone asking $20 up for a short time.
What can I say ? Sometimes a good day of abstinence is healthy, and the pleasure of denying such stupid greed people your money far greater of the lousy services they provide.[/QUOTE]Maybe your name should be rodent not gaudente.
You must be doing something wrong bproh.
[QUOTE=Opebo]I used to go to Cambodia frequently, but stopped soon after K11 was closed. Nowadays it is a very mediocre destination, though certainly much better than Vietnam, which as OWL has pointed out, is a hassle and rip-off. He is also correct that if one does go to Cambodia, it is best to focus on the Vietnamese girls, who provide, generally, good service. For the most part the Kmers do not, and are also very condom-insistent.[/QUOTE]Khmers condom insistent?
Well I should fucking well hope so, bproh.Obviuosly they are better educated than you!
If you don't use condoms then you are a threat to all of us,khmer and barang.
Shame on you.
[QUOTE=Gaudente]This is pure misinformation, probably by some hotel or bar owner.
There is NOTHING AVAILABLE at Soho 2 ,apart two girls dancing DRESSED and NOT BARFINABLE. To call the Sophie girls "sweeties" someone must be seriously eye troubled, anyway at least they do smoke your dick (something most other girls will never do, or will do lousely).I renew my call to AVOID Cambodia.[/QUOTE]Listen mate,I am just another barang here except that I spent the five months since my last visit learning khmer and it makes a huge difference.
I am barely fluent yet I have become something of an insider here in the last two months.I have helped many girls and one boy from the better known bars to go to school and learn english and computers.
I am starting to understand these people as I understand the thai having lived in bangkok in the dark ages and living with the ex and living with my thai born son for 25 years.My son has overcome his thai genes and is on his way to being a millionaire options trader.
The thai and the khmer are human beings just like us and should be treated as such,not purely as sex objects.When one behaves like a human being and treats others as human beings it is amazing how they respond.
I hope that you never come back to cambodia but if you do you can pm me and I will show you places that you would otherwise never see.
By the way the owner of soho 2 is a nice chap and a mine of information and yes for a dollar the girls will dance naked.
I keep forgetting to mention this little place that maost people are unaware of-the wonderfully named chip lay hotel. Get it?
It is such a good name that the name on the business card has been changed and the photo of the sign on the business card has been altered to the new name!
It is virtually next door to the walkabout and has the massage on level 5.
As one waits for the lift in the lobby there is a sign on the wall that says NO SEX!
There is a fishbowl with around twenty girls when me and my belgian mate visited one afternoon.The girls all seem keen and a few real sweeties give one the evil eye.My mate went back and dragged hiis mates out of the sad and sorry walkabout and they all had a crack.
It is $3 an hour for the massage and my mate got the BJ for $6 and claimed that it was all very nice.
I trust this guy as I had two khmer women that he recommended and they were indeed very nice.
So there you are another option just off street 51,if my very tall very black khmer girlfriend moves on then I shall give a personal road test report.
I have gone without a condom in PP with Vietnamese woman, what I do is find a woman who is new to the scene and you can check down there, just kiss around there as an excuse to look.
[QUOTE=MarkLatham]Hey campers, haven't posted for a while and I see some horror stories here recently.
but the rip off stories are new to me.
.[/QUOTE]
Hey Mark,
Thought you a newbie by your # of post but guess you had another ISG name before?
Yeah, I could confirm ripoffs (as I posted some of those beware of ripoff cautions), but they all occurred at those St 63 brothels. I tested 5 places at random there and all 5 brothels stole my money---For the survey:I deliberately left a few dollars in my pant pockets as bait to see if there were rats in the house and sure enough when I left ,the money was gone. Bastards didnt even leave me a 2000r tip for my moto fare home--ha ha
I had done that random survey so I could write a detail report on such St 63 ripoffs but now a mood point as St 63 is in the shut down phases.
Too bad you didnt post earlier when I was still in PP. Could've hooked up for a beer and exchanged stories.
Maybe next time when I visit PP you can show me "those places that I might otherwise never see".
Cheers
PT
[QUOTE=Niknoy]I have gone without a condom in PP with Vietnamese woman, what I do is find a woman who is new to the scene and you can check down there, just kiss around there as an excuse to look.[/QUOTE]Good luck to you Niknoy, from my experience a lot of the Vietnames girls are introduced to sex at an early age, and by the time they arrive on the Pay-For-Sex scene they are far from being virgins. I have found some exceptions to this but they are the exception.
Personally, I will always use a condom, and so feel that you are only putting yourself at risk, just do not be under mis-apprehension about the majority of the Vietnamese girls that find themselves in PP. If you are always paying some exhorbitant sum to ensure a virgin bed-partner then maybe my opinion would change but, in general, it does sound like a great big risk to not use a condom in PP.
I'm really interested to understand other people's viewpoint in relation to overpayment in Phnom Penh.
I have been visiting PP for a few years now and have become accostemed to the $10 ST and $20 LT framework of charges. Requested charges seem to have been increased in the last year or two and now seem to rival the salary achieved by top ministers of the country.
What do we think is causing this and what can we do to stop the charges rising still further?
On my last visit I was surprised to hear of a Belgian fellow who was buying $600 phone for a girl and was then going to visit her brother who had 'some financial problems'. As the Belgian had only been in the country for two days the money involved was fantastic in the extreme.
When I visited Golden Vine Bar the girls were asking for $40 / $50 LT and a bar fine of $10. This seems higher than the expected norm but may be becoming standard.
Am I alone in thinking that we should be trying to keep the rates down to a level commensurate with the average wage for the country?
What thoughts do the rest of you guys have?
I first traveled to Cambodia in 1993 when the Khmere Rouge was on the way out and the United Nations troops were there. I have been told by locals that the presence of the UN troops is the reason for the escalation of the prostitution trade in PP at that time. I have returned 7 times since and I have seen many changes in the sex scene there and most of these changes have been positive.
I have seen some scams and some great deals every trip and this is what I would expect in any country. As the saying goes YMMV. Gaudante makes many comments stating that Cambodia should be avoided and I really do not understand his reason to say this. Yes you can get scammed in Cambodia the same as you can get scammed in any country. However to only point out the negative and ignore the positive does not make any sense to me. A report should also tell of the good finds as well and if it does not then it is only a biased and incomplete report.
If everything that Gaudante found in Cambodia was negative then I would wonder why this happened as the rest of us have all found so much positive in our visits.
JMHOP
[QUOTE=Niknoy]I have gone without a condom in PP with Vietnamese woman, what I do is find a woman who is new to the scene and you can check down there, just kiss around there as an excuse to look.[/QUOTE]
Nik, new to the scene is no indication a girl is not infected. She may have lost her cherry to a carrier.
Also, no one has good enough eyes to see viruses. You oughta get a checkup and be more careful.
Just my 2 cents worth.
[QUOTE=MarkLatham]Maybe your name should be rodent not gaudente.
You must be doing something wrong bproh.[/QUOTE]
The ones doing wrong are they. Why ask 30$ if the going rate is 10$ ? This way you lose the customer and earn no money.They rode, while I am "gaudens" here in Pattaya now with my girlfriends .Unless , of course, there are many fools ready to pay their scam prices.
[QUOTE=MarkLatham]
By the way the owner of soho 2 is a nice chap and a mine of information and yes for a dollar the girls will dance naked.[/QUOTE]
I wonder why they did not offer me the service. Perhaps I look too poor and they did not bother offering. PP with its [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] stinking walls , garbage obstructed and deep darkened roads is too classy for me, better I stay in Pattaya among other farang keenaw like me.
[QUOTE=Gaudente]The ones doing wrong are they. Why ask 30$ if the going rate is 10$ ? This way you lose the customer and earn no money..[/QUOTE]
Although I do sympathize with your bad experiences and not having a better time while in Cambo, its just a fact in this whole country that they will try to extract as much money as possible from any monger. I have yet to be quoted the proper initial price , only after several minutes of haggling that a lower price will be accepted. This forum teaches all what the correct prices should be but its always up to the individual to negotiate it. Remember that this is SE Asia and the 1st price is never the true price.
But on the upside: once the mamasan or papa knows that you now know the correct price, you never have to hassle price again on a return visit to same place.
BTW: "Lose the customer"--they already know that most farangs are there only for Short visits in Cambo (few days on avg) so if they can get 3x the cost for your one visit then they are already ahead of the game as they dont need your return visit.
Hope you have better luck on your next trip.
PT
[QUOTE=Niknoy]I have gone without a condom in PP with Vietnamese woman, what I do is find a woman who is new to the scene and you can check down there, just kiss around there as an excuse to look.[/QUOTE]
As you are a newbie, I sure hope you will not become a monger based solely on how she looks or "pretend" to be how new to the scene. Otherwise it may be a very disasterous future for you.
Remember, Cambo has one of the worst HIV infection rates in Asia and you cant SEE the virus just by looking.
Dont forget that their definition of "new" is very different from ours. I once picked a gal who said was very new, upon further questioning I found out new for her meant she was there under 1 month. Now being a cutie, how many guys do you suppose she had in under 30 days?
Just my thoughts
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2] Remember that this is SE Asia and the 1st price is never the true price.
[/QUOTE]
On Pattaya Beach Road (which is not exactly the Country Club)they quote the right price (500 baht for short time) up front. And if the girl says she smokes your dick, she will do it. Thais may be greedy sometimes, but most of the times they upkeep their word. It is really astonishing that a Thai yaba girl is more reliable and trustworthy then a Cambo girl, but that's what reality slapped on my face.
To my opinion Cambodian have been teached by NGO and western medias that whining (first thing a taxi driver wants you to visit are the Killing Fields, so that they can take profit from your pity and guilt complex) gets much more then providing services. Once this bad notion is put into daily practice, it's quite difficult to reverse it. We could only if we were allowed to beat them, but that's what corrupted NGO paid police is just waiting for , so they can jail you and extort money.
I really can't see any solution for Cambodia apart forgetting it.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]I'm really interested to understand other people's viewpoint in relation to overpayment in Phnom Penh.
I have been visiting PP for a few years now and have become accostemed to the $10 ST and $20 LT framework of charges. Requested charges seem to have been increased in the last year or two and now seem to rival the salary achieved by top ministers of the country.
What do we think is causing this and what can we do to stop the charges rising still further?
On my last visit I was surprised to hear of a Belgian fellow who was buying $600 phone for a girl and was then going to visit her brother who had 'some financial problems'. As the Belgian had only been in the country for two days the money involved was fantastic in the extreme.
When I visited Golden Vine Bar the girls were asking for $40 / $50 LT and a bar fine of $10. This seems higher than the expected norm but may be becoming standard.
Am I alone in thinking that we should be trying to keep the rates down to a level commensurate with the average wage for the country?
What thoughts do the rest of you guys have?[/QUOTE]
The same as yours. Unfortunately it seems that when people are on vacations they want to have fun no matter the cost.However I still wonder where is the fun in being conned by such low people (the Cambo), capable of betraying the word they gave just one minute before with absolute nonchalance.
Thanks to everyone for their contributions here. I just returned from my long anticipated trip to PP. It was a very interesting overall experience. Before going on my trip, I had read everything from his board as well as many others as well as the history of Cambodia over the past 200 years. My readings gave me the opportunity to understand more of the people and their habits in PP. As for BM, the girls were more beautiful than I had come to believe from my readings. While many girls were rural in looks, there was always a few who were outstanding, perhaps even better than most thais & filipino ladies.
I saw and shag some of the most beautiful Khmer & viet girls in PP. However, PP has a very dark side to it's history & overall feeling of the city. Sadly, I did not fall in love with PP as I did with Thailand or the Philippines. The people living in PP appear harsher and more sinister. The predatory acts are performed by locals upon locals. It's not a place to ever relax. You must be on your guard most times. PP does exist to serve a minority of foreigners who have found someone that fits their unique personalities. But PP is definitely not for all. I may never again visit PP, but for the purpose of this board, some of the Khmer & viet girls who live & work there are simply outstandingly beautiful! Lastly, it is very hard to fall in love with any girl from any country who lies so persistently & consistently. I found that lying was a deep cultural practice in these very beautiful woman. Thanks to All!
It has been interesting to read so many so so reports about Cambodia-personally I am for them if they keep people away.
Yahoo-more for us.
Rodent and others complain of rip offs,yeah well this is asia and we are talking of the sex trade-what a surprise- NOT!
Some of you guys should spend your free time at home learning to speak some khmer or thai. It pays off in spades, at least one should learn the numbers.
You know how it is,if you speak some then they think that you must be able to speak more and prices come down. I mean it is 5 bucks at the chicken farms - how much cheaper do you want it boys?
And if the price in PP goes to 30 bucks in the peak season so be it.
These girls have to survive the off season, you know.
What is wrong with free enterprise anyway-are you guys all communists?
Have you heard of supply and demand, it is basic economics.
I have been in phnom penh for many weeks this time and I can honestly say that I have not heard one complaint from a barang.
Every man that I speak to has had a damn good time, bar none.
And as for the whingeing about the street walkers who hang around the monument-I would never pick up a girl off the street in Australia or Cambodia.
Why would you with so many available, pretty women here.
Dear Surfers,
I like to know if dangerous to visit PP now.
I like to stay in PP 1 or 2 days only for fucking.
I read about Le Cyrcee, and Skarky and Martini.
Pls, send me information about this places and how much I pay normally for ST.
Thank's I wait.
Sorry for my bad english
[QUOTE=MarkLatham]
Some of you guys should spend your free time at home learning to speak some khmer or thai. It pays off in spades, at least one should learn the numbers.
.[/QUOTE]
Anyone have a decent website that have learning the basic Cambo lingo for free. Did a basic google but nothing good came up.(some of the "free" sites were not free). I'm only interested if they have translating the words/phrases with sound. I could easily get all the written words but with language, I could never get the sound right.
May need it for my next trip.
PT
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]Thanks to everyone for their contributions here. I just returned from my long anticipated trip to PP. It was a very interesting overall experience. . Thanks to All![/QUOTE]
No problem Max,
Be sure to find some time and write some of those experiences.
PT
[QUOTE=Gaudente]On Pattaya Beach Road (which is not exactly the Country Club)they quote the right price (500 baht for short time) up front..[/QUOTE]
I'm a regular in Patts when I do my vacations to Asia. And not everyone I met in LOS gave me a proper price without negotiating at times. Yes, sometimes a few will quote correct prices but even in LOS its never like that all the time. A few even said 3000b ST? So even in LOS, they will try to get as much as they can, but again, if they know you know the correct prices they will back down. Even some of the popular MPs in BKK will try to rip you off with prices if they feel you are new there. So, it may not be as bad in LOS but price gouging still exist as this is SEA.
PT
[QUOTE=Filipix]Dear Surfers,
I like to know if dangerous to visit PP now.
I like to stay in PP 1 or 2 days only for fucking.
I read about Le Cyrcee, and Skarky and Martini.
Pls, send me information about this places and how much I pay normally for ST.
Thank's I wait.
Sorry for my bad english[/QUOTE]
No real dangers if you stay away from some rougher neighborhoods at nite, but since you only plan to be there 1-2 days?--too short a time to get to know city so best to take moto or taxi everywhere, especially at nite.
LeCyree and Sophies =mainly ST with on site rooms.
Sharky and Martini are usually places for LT pick ups (about $20)
PT
Thank's Phantomtiger2.
Yes, I have only 1 or 2 days to stay.
Short visit, but next visit will be longer, may be.
For LeCyrcee and Sophies how much ST?
And is possible to 'take away' ladies?
And other interestin bars for ST where in the city?
Thank's again, I wait,
Filipix
I'd like to contribute my 2 cents to this thread.
Dunno why Circee quoted $30. When I was there in mid December I was quoted $15. Found out that better to get there early as later on the girls are tired and may not swamp you (which is a nice experience by itself).
Otherwise, I would agree that to call the Sophie girls "sweeties" is overdone. The girls were wearing so much make-up that I was wondering at one point if they were travestites. I did not find them attractive but then of course YMMV.
Prices are naturally overblown but can go down quickly when they see you know the real prices.
Hope I said enough of bad and good things to balance a bit the debate.
[QUOTE=MarkLatham]
And as for the whingeing about the street walkers who hang around the monument-I would never pick up a girl off the street in Australia or Cambodia.
Why would you with so many available, pretty women here.[/QUOTE]Hi ML
Do you suggest that with so many women, fellow mongers should try meeting them for GF type relationships, or would you suggest pickup from the 'houses' or Disco/bars for ST or LT?
I have no experience with making GFs in Cambo (some folks call them freebees). Wondering if its easy as in China (with little to no strings attached) and what would the best hunting places would be?
For picking up locals, some of us may not have the time, patience, language skills, or even looks to do so :) Not to mention the desire for variety.
Also, has anyone scored in Cambo through the Internet, like dating sites, or Chatrooms? I tried to Meetic but did not get a single hit :(
Cheers,
BBB
Hi,
Millions of Cambodians stay with 50$ a month. Why you think thats normal to pay 30 $ for a fuck. I can't understand this. I stayed 4 years in PTy, and a can speak Thai. Of course I have to spend money to. The girls fuck for money and nothing other.
[QUOTE=Filipix]Thank's Phantomtiger2.
Yes, I have only 1 or 2 days to stay.
Short visit, but next visit will be longer, may be.
For LeCyrcee and Sophies how much ST?
And is possible to 'take away' ladies?
And other interestin bars for ST where in the city?
Thank's again, I wait,
Filipix[/QUOTE]
Yes, gals can be taken out (about $35 LT I think-as I never took any LT from these places)
Sophie ST is $10 (no room charge) , LeCyree have $2 room charge
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Yes, gals can be taken out (about $35 LT I think-as I never took any LT from these places)
[/QUOTE]
Interesting idea. Can someone please enquire as to what Cyrcee charges to take one of the girls out and for how long they'd stay out!
Much obliged.
Matt
Been unable to contact Flamingo Hotel. Does anyone have info on Big Luck Hotel and Paris hotel? Close to action, clean, safe?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Matt Navan Man]Interesting idea. Can someone please enquire as to what Cyrcee charges to take one of the girls out and for how long they'd stay out!
Much obliged.
Matt[/QUOTE]
The girls at Cyrcee told me $30 (+$7 to mama) = $37LT
They claimed it would be for as long as I wanted (eg until 3pm)
but it can depend on the girl (or the orders they are given by the mamasan).
For me this is too much money for these girls - they aren't worth it.
Same goes for $17ST (incl $2 for room) - too much for the quality of girls on offer
(there is rarely anything I want for that money esp. considering Sophie's is $10).
[QUOTE=Orleans]Been unable to contact Flamingo Hotel. Does anyone have info on Big Luck Hotel and Paris hotel? Close to action, clean, safe?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Big Luck Hotel: [url]http://bigluckhotel.com/[/url]
Flamingos Hotel: [url]http://www.flamingos.com.kh/index.php[/url]
Paris Hotel: [url]http://www.penhball.com/paris/[/url]
I arrived in PNH recently from BKK. Overall I am enjoying myself, but am disappointed by the Hotel Cambodiana. I originally tried to stay at Bougain-Villier, but they were full, and figured I "What the Hell" and decided to spring for opulence.
The outside of the hotel is, of course, beautiful, as is the lobby. The room they had available has a view of the river, available in room internet, et cetera, all for $120/night. A little steep, but I am on vacation and can afford it.
I checked into the room, and it is not bad, but it is [b]NOT[/b] five star material. It uses the 1970's motel style lighting controls and fixtures. The bathroom is in no way luxurious.
The staff are however top notch, and the room service's 24 hour menu is not bad. Bed's are comfortable and the room is clean.
In room wireless internet is $15 for 24 hours but the staff taught me that if I log out of the login timer page then I am only charged for the minutes I used, so a 24 hour card could last, well, as long as it takes to surf the net for 24 hours.
$120 ++ is just too much for this room. I could get nearly the same for half at another place. Those who are not backpackers or budget travelers should book ahead.
2J
[QUOTE=MarkLatham]I am in town mate but on saturday night I am taking out three women,one white chinese accountant,one brown kamong cham girl and one black as black and very tall girl from svay rieng.Eating and dancing and then who knows.I have hired sok, $25 for the night and gas-he is the cyclo in the movie city of ghosts,watch it to get a real feel for PP.
So the long and the short is I can't catch up but PM me and I will give you some good info including the two bars with the best women,the most expensive women.They ask for $40 to $50 but I believe that they are real top shelf.[/QUOTE]Well, I didn't manage to log back into the forum in time to meet up with Mark but still managed to find Sophies. GOD! That place is amazing! Okay, you go up some dodgy looking flight of stairs and knock on a random door but once you're inside! It's definitely a great feeling to have a whole group of girls all rushing over to you, stroking your dick and then taking turns sucking on it! I chose one who was tall and skinny, checked she did anal (she'd already told me she did "cum in mouth"!) and headed to one of the bedrooms. Quick shower (she made me go first and then not look whilst she had a shower because she was shy! This from a girl who's just been sucking my dick and was wearing a miniskirt with no panties!) and then onto the bed. She must have got a lot of bj practice because it I had difficulty in avoiding cumming there and then but will power one the day and the little chap was soon trussed up in a plastic bag.
We tried a few positions and then I wanted to do anal. '30 dollars!' What? This wasn't part of the deal, a moment before she'd been proudly proclaiming that she'd do anal as part of the package and now was trying to up the rates mid-coitus. A quick no was all that was needed though and then we went straight in with no lube. I don't how they do it.
She gave quite a gf-type experience and sat with me whilst I finished my beer and showed me to the door. USD10 for the ST and a dollar for each of the girls who sucked me off earlier plus USD2 for the beer. Pretty good value and just an unbelievable experience!
Which is a better choice, Big Luck or Paris hotel for 4 nights in March?? Anyone has any personal experience? Have a better suggestion?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Orleans]Which is a better choice, Big Luck or Paris hotel for 4 nights in March?? Anyone has any personal experience? Have a better suggestion?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Big Luck is a great place to stay. I was there in January 2007. It is well located. The staff is helpful and courteous. The rooms are clean and nice. The breakfast is well done. There is an internet shop in the back of the hotel for cheap. There is a big grocery store across the street. The two main mongering places (ie. Martini's & the rest) are in opposite directions equal distance. Ask for Room 206. It was the best room with a view & jacuzzi! . Good luck!
[QUOTE=MisterMax808]Big Luck is a great place to stay. I was there in January 2007. It is well located. The staff is helpful and courteous. The rooms are clean and nice. The breakfast is well done. There is an internet shop in the back of the hotel for cheap. There is a big grocery store across the street. The two main mongering places (ie. Martini's & the rest) are in opposite directions equal distance. Ask for Room 206. It was the best room with a view & jacuzzi! . Good luck![/QUOTE]One question: In Cambodia can you normally bring girl in the hotel free (like in many places in Thailand)? Big Luck is guest-friendly?
[QUOTE=Fiddler]One question: In Cambodia can you normally bring girl in the hotel free (like in many places in Thailand)? Big Luck is guest-friendly?[/QUOTE]
Most (90%) are, but not all places are gal friendly. I've come across a few Guesthouses that didnt allow unregistered ladies in. Most of these places also lock their doors early (by 11pm). Always best to check before paying for the nite.
Yes, Big Luck was GF last time I checked.
PT
[QUOTE=Too Jaded]
The outside of the hotel is, of course, beautiful, as is the lobby. The room they had available has a view of the river, available in room internet, et cetera, all for $120/night. A little steep, but I am on vacation and can afford it.
$120 ++ is just too much for this room. I could get nearly the same for half at another place. Those who are not backpackers or budget travelers should book ahead.
2J[/QUOTE]
Dont know how you initially decided to book a $120/nite room for Cambo? I wouldnt do that unless I was on a honeymoon and then she better still be worth it.
Agree that spending that amount of money for a room in Cambo is way out of price for mongering purposes. Normally for the average monger in Cambo for A/C room with hot water it should be in the $20-40 range.(at least thats for me).
PT
[QUOTE=Fiddler] Big Luck is guest-friendly?[/QUOTE]Absolutely, Fiddler! I was there in December 2006: never any problem bringing a girl, and when the girl was leaving, the reception always called my room to check if it was alright for the girl to leave.
Close to action, good price and pool on the roof, too.
Have fun,
Barri
[QUOTE=Nautilus]Hi,
Millions of Cambodians stay with 50$ a month. Why you think thats normal to pay 30 $ for a fuck. I can't understand this. I stayed 4 years in PTy, and a can speak Thai. Of course I have to spend money to. The girls fuck for money and nothing other.[/QUOTE]
Try living in phnom penh of $50 a month brother.
these working girls have phones,hair dressing and makeup expenses as well as needing nice clothes.
Then there is the cost of getting around,particularly late at night when prices go up.
They are often the sole bread winner for the family who can have medical expenses apart from luxuries like food and water.
You may speak thai brother but you still have the falang mindset,try actually living with or amongst thais and cambodians-it may turn you into a human being....
Thanks for the information everyone, Big Luck it is.
Orleans,
Big Luck Hotel will also pick up you at the airport for FREE! . You must simply arrange it with them in advance. Further, they have laundary service (possibly for free) if you negotiate with them in advance. The only bummer is that they do have a pool upstairs on the roof top, but you have to pay $2 to use it! I did put in a suggestion that they waive the $2 fee. It's just not consistent with their other hospitality services which are free of charge.
[QUOTE=Nautilus]
Millions of Cambodians stay with 50$ a month. .[/QUOTE]
Only a local born Cambo can live on $50/month, but then its living in a tin roof shack 8'x8'. I've been all around the countryside and I've seen it first hand.--IMO
PT
[QUOTE=Nautilus]Hi,
Millions of Cambodians stay with 50$ a month. Why you think thats normal to pay 30 $ for a fuck. I can't understand this. I stayed 4 years in PTy, and a can speak Thai. Of course I have to spend money to. The girls fuck for money and nothing other.[/QUOTE]
pom gor pood thai dai nit noi - khun pood pasa thai ti PP MAI DAI!! ( I could write it in Thai if anyone's interested - but it wouldn't show in this forum)
I also speak Thai a bit - YOU CAN'T SPEAK THAI in Cambodia (or PP) it does NO GOOD WHAT EVER - a FEW words may be comparable try this "moi bee bai.." that's 1, 2 3 in Khmer "neung song saam" - not even CLOSE! (yes, locals pay $1 or 2 for a screw - so what? - I don't mind $5, thogh
Its a shame some people have not been happy with their experiences in pp.
My hubby and I have found 90% of the girls give a good honest service for very little money, compared to the last time we were in Thailand the rates in pattaya as far as I can remember were 500bt bar fine plus a minimum of 1500bt for short time.
Consequently sophies and cyrcee seemed a real bargain at only 10$ plus the girls don't seem to have any inhibitions about going with a girl which is great for me.
So don't be put of give pp a try and we might see you there.
[QUOTE=Cam Bodia]Its a shame some people have not been happy with their experiences in pp.
My hubby and I have found 90% of the girls give a good honest service for very little money, compared to the last time we were in Thailand the rates in pattaya as far as I can remember were 500bt bar fine plus a minimum of 1500bt for short time.
Consequently sophies and cyrcee seemed a real bargain at only 10$ plus the girls don't seem to have any inhibitions about going with a girl which is great for me.
So don't be put of give pp a try and we might see you there.[/QUOTE]
'Cam Bodia' (interesting name - sounds like a marketing ploy for the country's Department of Tourism).
Your first post was a very interesting and enjoyable read,
almost in the same way that I used to enjoy reading Penthouse letters!
Any chance you have any pics of your ground breaking PP girl-on-girl action? I would applaud such a post which included graphic shots.
Sophies is technically $12 as there is a mandatory pre-fuck drink that the bar almost insists that you purchase. Cyrcee is $17ST and is bound to hit $20ST this year. A Cyrcee LT is approaching $40 which is NOT good value for these girls (if the owner got some really cute girls or some stunners then I could be tempted, but girls like that don't last long in a bar like Cyrcee).
Pattaya beer-bar barfines are around 200B. These girls will go LT for 1000B.
Freelancers are hard to find these days with the police presence on the beach, but there will inevitably be another easy way to get a quick fix of Thai meat for the all inclusive price of 500B.
Yes, a jaw-dropping uber-babe gogo dancer from walking street might hit you up for 1500ST +500bf. This is common around Christmas/New Years. Go back in June/July and see how much cheaper these same girls are. LT is much more readily agreed upon too. These girls have possibly the best bodies of any asian hookers and will happily dance naked in front of you while you relax with a beer. Hard to find that anywhere else!
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]
Freelancers are hard to find these days with the police presence on the beach, but there will inevitably be another easy way to get a quick fix of Thai meat for the all inclusive price of 500B.[/QUOTE]
Please post directions if you ever find such a way, Azn. So far in several visits since the crackdown I have not found a worthy replacement for what has been lost on the beach.
As for Phnom Penh, I always found it a fairly expensive destination - hotels being around $15, and girls not very easy to find now that K11 is gone. The biggest price increase over Thailand however is the food.
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]
Agree that spending that amount of money for a room in Cambo is way out of price for mongering purposes. Normally for the average monger in Cambo for A/C room with hot water it should be in the $20-40 range.(at least thats for me).
PT[/QUOTE]
PT,
I didn't decide, I made no reservation and found PNH to be more popular than to be expected. I kind of said fuck it and just went with what was open, looked to be of good quality (I am not a budget traveler), and had in-room internet.
I was not in Cambo for mongering, actually. I just came from the LOS so coming to Cambo strictly for poon would be illogical. Plus I think I broke my cock during my final week, I've had almost zero libido for the last few days! God bless those Thai spinners!
My primary purpose was local PNH tourism (I shot a rocket launcher, tossed some grenades, and went to S-21), and also went to Siem Riep.
I did hit one Khmer gal though and would repeat the experience. I like the skin color and that straight pussy hair just made me want to go yum yum on her. Unfortunately the place was very run down and the girl was not in her best mood (and looked badly bruised from being beaten by her pimp, which I am not down with), so it could have been better, but I could sense that the opportunities are there and the khmer girls have multiple qualities I find appealing.
On a side note, I hired driver Sovan Mee who was an asset and a friend. I recommend him for any newbies or folks who want to have a loyal ride and guide.
2J
Too Jaded,
Please elaborate on tossing grenades and firing a rocket launcher please. I've always wanted to do this, and almost had the chance in the Czech Republic, but the place was closed on the day I went. I would seriously consider canceling my trip to Hua Hin Thailand in March for pussy and guns in Cambodia. If you could give me an idea where the places are located, and what the costs were, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Drama
[QUOTE=Johnny Drama]Too Jaded,
Please elaborate on tossing grenades and firing a rocket launcher please. I've always wanted to do this, and almost had the chance in the Czech Republic, but the place was closed on the day I went. I would seriously consider canceling my trip to Hua Hin Thailand in March for pussy and guns in Cambodia. If you could give me an idea where the places are located, and what the costs were, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Drama[/QUOTE]
There are places just outside of PP city limits that you can "rent" guns of all sorts, pistols up to full auto machine guns. You pay for the bullets you use which adds up very quickly on full automatic. Rockets and grenades are also available but cost much more. Dont know about rocket cost but tossing a grenade cost me $10.
All taxi drivers know the locations as they speak some english, but motodops may not fully understand so speak to an ex-pat or hotel clerk to recommend a motodop for you.
But between the 2, I would prefer pussy over the guns and bombs.--IMO
PT
PT,
Yeah, I can't really decide on what to do... I've been to Thailand a few times, so thought I'd try Hua Hin in March since it hasn't been overthrown with tourists and the Sheraton's new 5 star property opens a few days before I arrive. I am tempted, though, by the prices and amount of women dancing around PP on any given day. I know I can get decent accomodations for $40-50 a night, and plenty of girls, but I'm still undecided. Have you mongered much in Thailand, and if so, whats your comparison with Cambodia? Do you find the girls are more GFE in Cambodia? I'd really appreciate your thoughts
Thanks
Drama
When I went to the range, they told me they´d throw in a skinny cow to blow up with the grenade launcher for another couple of hundred bucks. Supposed to be popular with the Japanese tourists.
The official government line on the cow thing is that they really frown on this activity. Supposedly, they have closed down all of the shooting ranges but they are still in open operation near to the airport (run by the army!!).
I seem to recall that the rocket launcher was $400 and they drive you to some more secluded spot. This was quite a relief, when I heard, as it didn't seem like the sort of activity to be taking place so close to the international airport.
The grenade throwing, at the site near the airport, involved throwing the grenade into a large pond, and so it lost some of its appeal.
Running up a large bill through using gun set to automatic hasn't been an issue when I've been there as they give you a magazine containing the number of rounds you want to purchase. A dozen rounds in an AK47 set to automatic was enough for me to realise that I wasn't cut out to be a soldier and that my ears and shoulder are made of schoolboy-like material.
The AK47 and M16 are things that I do not think I would get to try anywhere else in the world but even the revolver and shotgun are things that I could not achieve easily here in the UK. I'd suggest it as somewhere experience and it is just another of those things to act as an interlude from mongering. (Probably sacrilege suggesting that anyone might want a break from mongering but there you go!!)
[QUOTE=David_33]When I went to the range, they told me they´d throw in a skinny cow to blow up with the grenade launcher for another couple of hundred bucks. Supposed to be popular with the Japanese tourists.[/QUOTE]
Hey David,
When I went, a cow wasn't offered for target practice but pretty much everything else was. I guess steak wasn't on the menu that nite--ha ha
Cheers
PT
[QUOTE=Johnny Drama]PT,
Yeah, I can't really decide on what to do... I've been to Thailand a few times, so thought I'd try Hua Hin in March since it hasn't been overthrown with tourists and the Sheraton's new 5 star property opens a few days before I arrive. I am tempted, though, by the prices and amount of women dancing around PP on any given day. I know I can get decent accomodations for $40-50 a night, and plenty of girls, but I'm still undecided. Have you mongered much in Thailand, and if so, whats your comparison with Cambodia? Do you find the girls are more GFE in Cambodia? I'd really appreciate your thoughts
Thanks
Drama[/QUOTE]
Yup, LOS was my primary mongering location followed by Singapore. I only recently "discovered" Cambo last year and spent 3.5 weeks there (mid Nov-Dec). I had an ok time in Cambo but for comparison, I'd say the women in LOS are more GFE (this of course is a general thought as you will come across a few that breaks the rules--but that happens everywhere).--IMO
The only "true" GFE I had while in Cambo was the BJ/sex bars in PP, at Sophie, LeCyree, Mikado etc. as the management makes "sure" you are king.
As I said, this is just a general observation as you could come across some that will treat you right and this theory goes out the window.
BTW: there are way more women available for P4P in LOS than in Cambodia. The total number of WL I'd come across all over Cambo that I'd visited dont even come close to 1/4 of the WL just in Pattaya alone.
Cheers.
PT
[QUOTE=Johnny Drama]PT,
Yeah, I can't really decide on what to do... I've been to Thailand a few times, so thought I'd try Hua Hin in March[/QUOTE]I spent 12 days in Hua Hin in February 2005. It was about 7-8 days too many. Hua Hin is very quiet and unless you are big golfer I think you will be bored rather quickly. The nightlife is limited to one main street and some side streets, and the quality of the bargirls was extremely poor, IMHO. It is rather upscale (the King has a home there that he uses regularly) and you don't see the total scumbag tourists that you find in Pattaya, but the nightlife is very limited.
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]
Wow - I've been to PP countless times and have never done that (probably never will either).
Hope you don't think that this is all PP has to offer![/QUOTE]
The gun/rocket/grenade thing wears off quickly--especially after they hand you the bill (like I said, firing machine guns on full auto and tossing a few grenades adds up to a huge bill), but fun if you never tried it before.
BTW: still alot of illegal (or legal?) gun dealing in PP. I was on motodop on the other side of the river and going toward the south side of PP when he diverted off to a side street where another man tried to sell me his AK-47 assault rifle and 2 full ammo clips. He also said it was ok for me test fire the weapon (in the middle of the street?). I declined of course. So guns still abound in PP, so be careful out there.
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]The gun/rocket/grenade thing wears off quickly--especially after they hand you the bill (like I said, firing machine guns on full auto and tossing a few grenades adds up to a huge bill), but fun if you never tried it before.
BTW: still alot of illegal (or legal?) gun dealing in PP. I was on motodop on the other side of the river and going toward the south side of PP when he diverted off to a side street where another man tried to sell me his AK-47 assault rifle and 2 full ammo clips. He also said it was ok for me test fire the weapon (in the middle of the street?). I declined of course. So guns still abound in PP, so be careful out there.
PT[/QUOTE]
Yeah - $200 IIRC to blast an unsuspecting cow with an RPG - make instant hamburger. IIRC $1/ round of anything up to .45 cal (might be fun to play gangster and shoot a tommygun, though..nah.). Waste of good meat after the RPG - too much schrapnel (sort of like a VERY one-sided bullfight - the cow is teathered - great sport for 20 somethings). A guy could go broke shooting all the firepower available - BUT - some of us have had our fill of the "real thing" (and no special desire to go "do it again") M1A1 carbine, M-79, M-60, M-16, M-14, M-60 tank 105MM, M-1914... except for the tank, all "small arms"...
"GUNNER! FIRE MISSION - azimuth...Depression... "ON THE WAY!" been there, done that...
My mate paul asked for the chicken and for $15 they produced the duck and put him down the far end of the range.
A few shots from the AK had the duck dancing and then one beneath him blew him two meters into the air.
All good fun really,except for the duck....
[QUOTE=Dinghy]. IIRC $1/ round of anything up to .45 cal ...[/QUOTE]
$1 a bullet sounds about right and toss in $10/grenade and the steep bill should be hung out and shot as target practice.
Yup, much cheaper just to join the army and get all the weapons free of charge----IMO
Cheers
PT
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]My mate paul asked for the chicken and for $15 they produced the duck and put him down the far end of the range.
A few shots from the AK had the duck dancing and then one beneath him blew him two meters into the air.
All good fun really,except for the duck....[/QUOTE]
Damn good shooting-especially if the duck was a moving target.
I've seen tourist shooting AK's and couldnt hit a 5x5 foot board just 20 feet away.
BTW: did they at least offer to cook the duck--
Cheers
PT
For a description of the scene read Amit Gilboan's "Off the Rails in Phnom Penh: Into the Dark Heart of Guns, Girls and Ganja." Should be available in the region.
I bought a copy through Amazon in the U.S. in 1998 for $18. I now see a paperback copy offered for $47 by Amazon. The book is not so great but offers a few insights into the Cambo society.
[QUOTE=Driver SovanMee]Hi all
I woul like to have some business from you guys.
Hopefully someone will employ me this week.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
I used SovanMee and I can and will state he is an excellent guide, trustworthy, loyal and all the good stuff that makes a big difference to us.
Use him, you'll like him
If you PM him, he'll send his phone #. Airport pick up is available.
Shamas O'Dognasty
[QUOTE=Vittu]For a description of the scene read Amit Gilboan's "Off the Rails in Phnom Penh: Into the Dark Heart of Guns, Girls and Ganja." Should be available in the region.
I bought a copy through Amazon in the U.S. in 1998 for $18. I now see a paperback copy offered for $47 by Amazon. The book is not so great but offers a few insights into the Cambo society.[/QUOTE]
Wow $47!
The book is still available here for three or four dollars.....
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]
Wow - I've been to PP countless times and have never done that (probably never will either).
Hope you don't think that this is all PP has to offer![/QUOTE]
No, that is not what I meant to say. But as they say 'to each, his own". PNH does not offer the type of mongering experience I typically seek, but for other adventurers it is perfect.
Nothing is absolute, and everyone has their own preference. I for one prefer BKK, MNL, or DXB for mongering (I must caveat that with the statement that I did not sample much in PNH, so perhaps I missed out). Others like the exotic experience of PNH or Vietnam.
My primary purpose for visiting Cambodia was not for rocket launchers, it was actually more cultural vis a vis the ethnic lifestyle and history, particularly around Siem Reap. Next time I am in the neighborhood I will spend more than four days, and try and sample more while I am there.
2J
First time in Phnom Penh, had a great time, 4 girls in 3 days. First girl I met at Mikado club, a little chubby but horny as hell all the way. Good BBBJ, but a little afraid I would cum in her mouth (I did) so she kind of tried to point didi away from her. She enjoyed DATY, doggie, mish, but no kissing. Her name was Linda from Kompon Cham, about 20 yo. Great rooms upstairs, soft warm lighting and mirrors all around and above. You can rent a room all night for $8. ST 15, LT 30.
Also went to Cyrcees, I didn’t think the girls were more beautiful than Mikado, and had to wait for a room. The way it works with these high turnover bonk bars is you walk in and sit down, and the really cute girls refuse to make eye contact unless you’re a regular (well I am 58 and bald) so a fat girl sat down next to me and immediately tried to get me upstairs with “I do anything for you I take care of you anything you want yum yum boom boom etc etc. Eventually a beautiful tall blonde came over and suggested a 3 some. I should have stood my ground and went with just the blonde, but upstairs we 3 went. Turns out the fat girl wouldn’t do yum yum or DATY, so I turned my attention to the blonde. It seems that the function of the 2nd girl is to get you to come right away and out the door. It was hilarious, I was fucking the blonde and the other girl was behind me pushing my hips up and down into the blonde trying to get me to come, but of course it had just the opposite effect and I took my time waiting for the blonde to come. Finally I just ignored the other girl and thought about the excellent BBBJ the blonde was giving me, with great suction. I tried to warn her I was coming but got caught up in the moment and couldn't get the words out. But I jerked it away from her just in time and she thanked me for not CIM. Spent some time downstairs talking to the blonde, she is from Siem Riep, and offered to show me her hometown next time I’m in Cambodia. $15 to each girl but then they ask for $5 tip by reflex. I reached inside my pocket for $5 and by the time I swung around to give it to the blonde, she was already humping some other guy’s knee. Well if this is how fast they turn you around, I can imagine what Sophie’s is like, so I passed on that. Had a good time at Cyrcees but feel that I got stuck paying for a girl I didn't want, just to get the girl I did want.
The other girl I met at DV8 definitely a different experience, she said boom boom OK but didn’t seem really interested, so I changed my mind and we just cuddled all night, nice GFE. Vietnamese and the only word she knew in English was “tip”. Sorry honey, no yum yum no boom boom no $10 tip. But she thanked me anyway for $5 tip.
I was quite impressed with the city, everything is so cheap. I stayed at the Chi Cha hotel on 110th st next to the Happy Man biker bar. $4 a room with an attached bathroom with squat toilet, cold water shower. View of the Mekong river from the balcony next to my room. Full Indian lunch or dinner downstairs for $2 with all the rice and homemade chapati bread you can eat.
European style bistros, restaurants and cafes, French colonial architecture, even the street signs are in French and Khmer, as this was all part of French Indochina. I think the riverside is the most pleasant place to stay, you’re closest to the best food, bars, the river. No street lights, but I never felt nervous walking around at night. Of course I stayed around the tourist zones and didn’t stumble around drunk at 2am, not a good idea in any city.
Cambodia is a great place for a vacation and looking forward to spending some more time there but dollar for dollar I still think Thailand has the best girl experience. Just my POV.
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[QUOTE=Qiao Han]......... Turns out the fat girl wouldn’t do yum yum or DATY, so I turned my attention to the blonde...................[/QUOTE]It is commendable that you worry about the pleasure your lady is experiencing but I really would suggest that the likes of Sophie and Le Cyrcee are not the place to be the gentleman; they are both quick turnover brothels , though I do accept that there are sometimes some nice 'new' girls in Le Cyrcee.
My opinion of Le Cyrcee was lowered when I started getting friendly with a girl a while ago. While I was touching her underneath her skirt I was surprised to feel her getting wet so soon. I was more than a little shocked to find my fingers covered in blood as she was working there while having her period.
Basic standards of hygeine do not exist here and so be very careful if you feel you must do the old DATY. I am sure that all of our experiences of bars are different but pass on mine of this bar as a small warning.
[QUOTE=Qiao Han]. $15 to each girl but then they ask for $5 tip by reflex. I reached inside my pocket for $5 and by the time I swung around to give it to the blonde, she was already humping some other guy’s knee. Well if this is how fast they turn you around, I can imagine what Sophie’s is like, so I passed on that. Had a good time at Cyrcees but feel that I got stuck paying for a girl I didn't want, just to get the girl I did want.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]First I like to welcome you to the ISG forum. Enjoyed your post and must say you did well as the prices you paid as a newbie was spot on and didnt get ripped off like most newbies. I suspect you did some research here before going to PP?
Only could comment on that you did not need to hire a gal you didnt want just to get one that you desire, it don't work that way. Simply walk or call over to the one you desire. LeCyree is a "business" thats set to please the customer (dont matter if you're older or bald) just have $ ready as no one here have turned down a customer. But its good you brought it up as now you'll know what to do on your return visit.
Enjoy.
Cheers
PT
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]Wow $47!
The book is still available here for three or four dollars.....[/QUOTE]To Vittu,
Most of this book is out dated and useless PP have change alot the last ten yr and you can pick up this book cheap in Bangkok under 400 bht, you get more info here on ISG.
Fast Eddie 48
Yet again you have missed the point of someone's post.
Any monger that visits PP (or plans to) should read [i]Off The Rails...[/i] - a humourous and entertaining book.
The writer never imagined it would remain current for long or intended it to be used as a PP monger's guide anyway.
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]I suspect you did some research here before going to PP?
Only could comment on that you did not need to hire a gal you didnt want just to get one that you desire, it don't work that way. Simply walk or call over to the one you desire.PT[/QUOTE]Thanks to you and everyone in this thread for all the information, everything went just as expected after RTFF - from the airport to the best nightlife spots, the prices, and you're right, I should have insisted on just the girl I wanted. Guess I'm a sucker for the smile, the "you're so handsome sir" etc, these girls are really pros. But I’d still like to send all the Khmer girls to LOS and have the girls there teach them about CIM. Seems the Thai girls already understand “don’t worry honey I promise I won’t come in your mouth” is the biggest lie ever perpetrated, and by now they’ve learned to just kinda shrug and resign themselves to the inevitable.
Definitely going back to PNH first week in May, maybe this time I'll make it to S'ville like I originally planned.
[QUOTE=Qiao Han]to send all the Khmer girls to LOS and have the girls there teach them about CIM.
Definitely going back to PNH first week in May, maybe this time I'll make it to S'ville like I originally planned.[/QUOTE]QH,
Glad you benefited from all we have done as that is the true value of ISG.--
Just to give you a heads up: PP BJ bars are the exception as once you leave PP, its a bit harder to find gals willing to even give BJ, let alone CIM. Definitely much more starfishes and deadfish here than in LOS. But cheap enough to do a few to find out which have skills to your fancy and just go back to those that pleased you most.
Will wait for your reports on Snooky.
Have fun in May.
Cheers
PT
The original posts by Silly Puppy were deleted by Jackson. Quotes of his posts were edited out as well.
The statistics assume we're totally random when we choose girls.
This is absolutely not the case.
Did I miss something?
I go away for a little while and all of a sudden I'm a criminal?
Very difficult to tell in Cambo as the viets with some sort of IDs (not all of them have IDs as many are illegally in Cambo) but all who had IDs were ok in age (cant read them but my driver could and desk clerk) so most I took back to my hotel were legit (not sure if IDs were real or fake as I can't tell anyway).
Only ones in doubt were at the chicken farms as absolutely no one had an ID (young or old) but all the ones I asked said they were at least 19. As far as I'm concern, I'm not guilty.
Cheers,
PT
i go to cambodia on a regular basis, and can say that i've never seen a child prostitute in cambodia, i know about svay pak, but never went there, but i do know svay pak is closed and there's no ****d girls there.
all was quiet on the board and then the cat is thrown amonst the pigeons.
in order for the conclusions to be valid the facts need to be taken to a lower level. by this i mean that you need to distinguish between 'tourist brothels' and 'locals brothels'. it is a generally accepted fact that the locals brothels contain a far higher proportion of indentured and **** girls; as we, on this board, would not even be able to find most of these the chances of encountering **** girls is greatly diminished.
when we do choose girls we use our discretion as to who we select and so even if there are **** girls working in tourist brothel, most of us would leave them alone.
there is always a chance that one of us has taken an **** girl as it is accepted that asian ladies always look younger than western equivalents and ids can be faked very easily.
when the above is taken into account does it make you a paedophile for taking a girl who 'tricks' you into believing that she is older than she really is? by not visiting locals brothel and always asking for a girls age, when there is any doubt, surely we are being reasonable in our actions.
i, for one, know that i have refused taking girls for a year as i have doubts about her age (one, in particular, will be looked at again when i visit in may). i also know of girls who have been around for a few years who are still claiming to be 18. the ids are not legible by the majority and, you can be sure, that a girl's friends will support her claims of whatever age she wants to be that day.
bottom line is that we must all be careful and take whatever steps we can to stay within the law. if we do this then we can refute the sort of allegations that started this discussion and take our holidays without having to lie about our destination!
[QUOTE=Loso69]The original posts by Silly Puppy were deleted by Jackson. Quotes of his posts were edited out as well.[/QUOTE]Wiped clean by the hands of God = (Jackson)
Well, looks like I didn't miss anything afterall.
PT
the **** girl reports about cambodia on other forums are greatly exagerated,
we have been several times now and as a female can honestly say i have not seen any **** girls in any of the bars we frequent.
i get really annoyed by people thinking that the place is full of paedophiles which anbody who has actually been can see it isn't.
as for the argument of girls selling themselves being used by men i hate to break it to you guys its more like the other way round most of them try to do as little as possible for as much money as possible,
and yes guys i've had the looks which i'm sure you've all had from fat european women probably even worse, as we go back to our hotel with a beautiful girl sat between my hubby and i, but hubby does seem to enjoy the looks from their husbands (envy).
Niknoy,
If you a regular visitor of PP then or you blind or you stay all day in your hotel.
How can I contact you?
I am coming over soon and my old driver isn't pickup his phone.
[QUOTE=Cambo Lover]How can I contact you?
I am coming over soon and my old driver isn't pickup his phone.[/QUOTE]
Hi Cambo Lover,
Ask and thou shall receive.
Sovan Mee, as taxi driver in PP. I would like to request some business from you guys.
Please fell free to call me at: 012 428 007
Cheers
PT
I was able to get a threesome for $10 to each girl after a very short negotiation, gave each a $1 tip because I was satisfied with the service.
Afterwards, one of the girls said that she was leaving home since she already got a customer (me). Obviously, she was fully satisfied with $11 she received from me and did not want to do any more work that night. Think twice before paying $20 ($15 + $5 tip) per girl :)
To put prices in perspective: I visited Martini and asked out of curiosity how much a cute 20yo. would charge for the whole night. At first she quoted $25 but later she admitted that she would go for $20.
[QUOTE=Derim]
To put prices in perspective[/QUOTE]Derim, really great reports from both PP and Siam Reap! But to put prices in perspective: Are you a 25 yo hunk or a 50+ fat guy? ;)
[QUOTE=Barri]Derim, really great reports from both PP and Siam Reap! But to put prices in perspective: Are you a 25 yo hunk or a 50+ fat guy? ;)[/QUOTE]
Barri,
It does not matter if the monger is 25y/o or 50y/o (unless you look like Jabba the Hut and built like that monster--then no gals will have them even for $100 bucks)
The prices Derim posted are more or less correct as these were in line with what I would and have paid myself. Of course there will always be a slight variations as some gals may demand $2-3 more (because they know they can) but never by much. Its when people pay $10-20 more then what I had posted or recommended that I start scratching my head and wonder what happened.
Ex: Derim was spot on and obviously read my previous posts about the 3 massage brothels near the Temple Villa in SR, they will always try to tell you FS for $15-maybe $20, but as I had warned, correct price for FS is $10 only at those places and thats what Derim got.
I always post only the prices I paid myself and if its within range (+/- a few bucks) then thats the correct amount.
Cheers
PT
[QUOTE=Barri]Derim, really great reports from both PP and Siam Reap! But to put prices in perspective: Are you a 25 yo hunk or a 50+ fat guy? ;)[/QUOTE]Somewhere between :) But it doesn't matter, girls want to make money and even in the high season it seems that the supply is much higher than demand. Thus for the most girls it's either $10-15ST/$20-25LT or $0 for sitting/sleeping alone, it's not suprising that most girls will choose the first alternative. Of course they try to get high price if possible, but they quickly agree to a going rate. You can see same behaviour in the market: tourist will be initially quoted 2-3x price for t-shirts, souvenirs etc.
It think that I was able to get good prices for following reasons:
- I learned a few words of Khmer, not much just basic words like "hello", "how much" and numbers
- I knew prices from earlier reports and sometimes I didn't even ask "how much", I just offered my price
- I told usually that I have been many times in Cambodia. Once I made a mistake and told a girl in New York hotel massage that I was for a first time in Cambodia, and she quoted me $30 for boom boom on top of $5 massage! LOL! Then I said that I just wanted a massage, and pretended to be disinterested, in about 10-15 minutes she agreed to $10 which was much reasonable.
I think it's important to give impression that you know the prices and you aren't a newbie tourist, it will save lot of time and hassle. This also applies to other countries and other bargaining situations (not just P4P).
[QUOTE=Cambo Lover]Niknoy,
If you a regular visitor of PP then or you blind or you stay all day in your hotel.[/QUOTE]Well cambo lover, if you found it, you must of been looking for it, need I say more.
[QUOTE=Niknoy]Well cambo lover, if you found it, you must of been looking for it, need I say more.[/QUOTE]Come on Guys, don't let this forum turn into a slanging centre. We all have different points of view and have had different experiences.
It's very easy to make cheap shots at each other but I have seen other boards fall by the wayside because of such actions. Accept what others have to say and think of everything as if it was said in conversation while having a beer.
I know that I could be called a f*****ing C*** while having a beer, with no offence taken, but would take umbrage if someone said so in a formal letter.
This is a great place to share experiences so let's use it for that and not get so personal. Please.
Will be arriving in Phnom Phen on Tuesday morning and will be staying at the Paragon by the river as California 2 is full until 26th.
Anybody familiar with this hotel and where it is for mongering?
Hotels are filled up with Chinese New year although I thought it would be over by Tuesday and back to normal.
Jack
Hey guys,
I'll be at the Imperial Gardens hotwl for a week next month.
Do any of you guys know it's GF, or if the NGO crowd is there?
Thanks in advance
Hello,
I have heard good things about Sovan Mee. I would like to add another driver to the list. His name is Mr. Ben Wee. He has car with ac and cell phone. He charges 25 a day and speaks good English. I have used him many times and consider him a friend. Please help him if you can. PH. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. If I cab fugyre it out you can PM me for his email address.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=AncientFornicatr]Will be arriving in Phnom Phen on Tuesday morning and will be staying at the Paragon by the river as California 2 is full until 26th.
Anybody familiar with this hotel and where it is for mongering?
Hotels are filled up with Chinese New year although I thought it would be over by Tuesday and back to normal.
Jack[/QUOTE]The Califoria2 is a nice Hotel, always full up, the first time i was in there the children beggers came inside the bar, i looked at one of the bar servers, thingking they would tell the begger to go away, but did not, so i stayed chatting to a little girl, who I ended up buying a can of drink for and bought a little gift from her that i didnt need, just to pass the time.
[QUOTE=Muleface]Hey guys,
I'll be at the Imperial Gardens hotwl for a week next month.
Do any of you guys know it's GF, or if the NGO crowd is there?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]The more expensive Hotels would have NGOs in them, as they take a lot of money for themselves from donations, and also they seem to drink at bars on the river front.
After 6 months of delay I am here in PP.
This is my 1st Field Report so must go easy with my mistakes.
I must start by thanking you PhantomTiger2 (PT2) for all your time spent on information you had sent me. It made it very easy for me to be comfortably go around the city. Too bad no mongering members Hall of Fame on this forum. You are one worth honoring as I notice you have help many many other newbies like myself out all over this forum and never flame us for being newbies.
Also have to thank others for all the updates. Its a great forum for our interesting hobby.
Arrive PP by Airasia by BKK at 830am. No delays.
Immigration was no problem. Procedure is pay $20 and 1 passport size photo. Then must wait 10-15min until officier call out your name to pick up visa at the counter. It is a big visa sticker attach to my passport page, take up one whole page.
As recommend by PT2, Walk out of airport and already have car from Flamingo Hotel waiting with sign with my name, made me feel important already. Drive to hotel very short, takes 15 min with no traffic early morning.
Check in and room was nice for the excellent price.
Go downstairs and lobby clerk helpful to recommend moto-dop outside. He tell me all day with driver is only $9 until midnight. If I want later then will be $3 more. I ask if I pay gas, answer no, driver pay gas. Driver name is Metta. Young man I say maybe 20years old.
As advised by PT2, already pick up free PP map at airport. It is the folding Canby map. Very small but good map. It have all I want to visit.
I point to Metta to places I want to visit and he takes me. His english is limited but understands mostly I say--mostly I think he understand where I point to and go. Went to all usual places, Palace, Killing fields and more. PP Very interesting because very different from home. I don't think I will last 1 week in PP before get hit by moto-dop and cars crossing streets. Very dangerous even when careful. They do not stop for anybody.
Need a break from all the sights. Stop to have lunch by the river. Go to California hotel for food. It is not bad. Prices not high. Lunch cost $4, but I'm no big eater. Told Metta I want to have girl fun. He smiles, I think he knows it will be extra money for him for commission. As long as its not too much, I don't mind. If he honest then he deserve to make a good living too. So far he is honest.
I have a compass with me and notice he take me south, seems far, go past all the memorials. Stop at a street with many houses. Not many standing outside but still early in day. Metta points for me to go in one house as he park motobike. I hesitate because house donn look safe. Metta walk by me and I follow him. Outside look broken but inside house look clean and lots of lights. I see 10 girls sitting watch TV. Most are average 5 or 6 but one I like look like a 7. I point her to Metta. He speaks to Mama.come back tell me $15 for 1 hour. I say too much. I tell Metta if price no lower we will leave. Metta try talking again and final price $10. I understand Metta get commission so maybe no lower. I agree as it is fare for me. He did drive long way so donn want to waste more time.
Girl name "Fun", she is Vietnam. Metta say she is 22 but I say look 19.
I already ask to be sure she will BJ and for me to touch her as I understand many will not allow. Metta talk to mama and said she not allow touch her ass or finger her pussy, but BJ ok. I say ok as I donn care to much.
Go upstair, she ask take clothes off and shower, not shower as it is a big bucket full of water and pail to wash water over body. Water seem clean but very bloody cold. I was hard but cold water make me go soft again.
I did not carry too much money as clothes in room away from me, I do have camera in my hand. I start to worry steal my money while I'm away ($40 in pockets). I did not check back inside room as she starts to give me BJ and I start to be hard again. BJ was very soft, no suction. I donn think she is too experience in this as I feel her many teeth also. She try hard but I stop her before she injury my dick with her teeth. I touch her tits, very soft and natural but not large, be size at most. I try to touch her bottom but she push hand away, no matter.
I tell her to be on top but she didn't like after few min. I did her missionay and flip her over to finish doggie as I want to see her cute ass as I plug her harder until I release my load in the condom. They provide condom in room.
She is fare with me and smiles so although she donn do everything I want she is ok with decent attitute.
Here I am little scare when I reach into pants and expect to be stolen empty, but everthing still there.
I give her $2 tips as recommended by PT2 and others as fare amount. She seem ok with this.
Go out back to driver Metta and we go back to hotel for wash and afternoon rest until evening after dinner I plan to go to visit Walkabout, Sharkie and Shanghai. He drop me off and will return at 5pm to pick me up again.
I finish wash and plan on little nap but then I not too sleepy. Still 2 hours before Metta pick up so I walk around.
Decide to go St 63 as I read so much about this place. I walk around but donn see any houses with girls. I thought the many streets here have tons of girls but didn't see any. I about give up but walk up one more street and then have young man wave to me and ask want lady. I say yes, but donn see any. He say many police so doors are close. He knock and door open. Man come out check streets and check me. Ok, let me in doors. I see maybe 5 or 6 girls here. Very short girls but 1 or 2 still cute so I point to her and tell papa $5. He wave hand for no. I tell him no driver with me. He say ok $7. Not bad price so we go upstairs. But strange, as papa say make me pay 1st. I say no but he say no pay, no go upstairs. Its only $7 so ok..-Big mistake, Take clothes off and put on chair next to bed. She say to shower. I say no because donn want to leave clothes (remembering this is St63 and all the cautions PT2 had warned all of us about on this forum.) Girl name Min. , also Vietnam girl about 21. Girl attitute poor. Can't touch tits, no touch ass or pussy. No BJ. Maybe because she knows I always looking for problem in the room. Everytime I look at my clothes, she try to turn my head and body away. I now feel very tight as I know this is one place PT2 must have visited and will steal from me. I try not to let bother me or I will go soft again so I pump harder and faster to finish and get out. My moment of distraction looking at her to finish I hear my pants fall to floor as I have a big metal buckle on belt. Then I hear door close. That did it, dick goes soft and I jump out of bed, girl held my arms tight to hold me in bed but I push her besides. I see a trail of money leading from my pants going to door. I pick up all my things and put on clothes. Look in pocket and count it, had $10 less than before. MotherFker stole about $10 from me. I walk downstair but girl grap me and demanded a tip (her hands out)--WTF! , I ignore her as she yells at me. I confront papa downstairs and tell him someone stole from me and want money back along with my $7 deposit for not finishing. He laughs at me and say no steal from me. I continue to argue and He knocks on door and then 3 other guys came inside door and I saw 2 holding metal pipes and one guy had knife in belt. Bloody outnumbered, I knew to shut up now and just try to get out in one piece. I pointed to door and one guy open door and wave for me to go. I step outside all sweating even though not too hot outside and I know I got scam $17 but still feel very lucky as it could be much worse if I made a bigger stink. Not worth losing my life over $17-20 bloody dollars.
PT2, so sorry I didn't take your advice and avoid St63--I was just too bloody curious about this place, I didn't want to post this in beginning as I was very embarrass and I feel I had made a big mistake even after all the warnings from you but then decided it would be an error on my part not to further warn about the dangers of St63. So please learn from my mistake, As PT2 had warned, do not go without a knowledge guide but if you go then you are on your own and nobody to blame but yourselve if trouble happens.
Now I know why Metta drive me far to a place for girls but he knows it was a safe and honest place. From now on, I only go where he takes me to find girls. Few extra dollars in commission to him is worth it for not having to worry about my money or my life.
No longer urge to monger today so when Metta came for pick up, I went just to dinner and return to hotel for early rest.
Will post on day 2 later--to be continue.
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nana hawk quoted "it is a generally accepted fact that the locals brothels contain a far higher proportion of indentured and **** girls" unquoted.
i will disagree. there are "upscale" local brothels that are not. you would not even know about these ones unless an "upscale" local took you.
Pirate1,
I always avoid street 63, mind you i did go there last time i went to PP, because i was doing a taxi driver a favour, and the service was similar to yours pirate1, i ask for a young girl and they got me an 18 year old, which surprised me, she was hidden between the 40 year old line up of woman LOL, for some reason the young girl was intent in giving me a massage, and all i wanted to do was enjoy her young body, in the end i gave her a few dollars to let me feel her up.
I would have not said anythink, if my $10 had gone missing, people have this mistaken belief, that asians are good people, but they can turn very nasty if they want to, like you experianced.
Is there anywhere in PP we can pick up some sex toys, or sexy lingerie?
[QUOTE=Towoldse]Is there anywhere in PP we can pick up some sex toys, or sexy lingerie?[/QUOTE]LOL, usualy I get a flight from London always via Bangkok, so I spend a couple of nights in BKK, get my sexy lingerie from there and take it to PP to dress my ladies up in, but I have never seen sex toys in BKK or PP.
[QUOTE=Pirate1]After 6 months of delay I am here in PP.
This is my 1st Field Report so must go easy with my mistakes.
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Dude,
So glad you finally made it to PP.
I was reading your post and was happy for you as the info I sent seems to be working (at least the 1st half of your report) then saw you ignore my warnings (2nd half of report).
Despite all that happened, still glad you were not hurt or worst (dead). Loss of $20 is a small price for a hard lesson learned.
Don't feel too embarrassed about it all even though you knew it could happen. You took a gamble, you lost some money but gain back your life--given the odds, I still think you came out ahead. So thanks for posting your experiences for others to heed your warnings about more potentially dangerous happenings at St 63 brothels.
Stay safe and keep up your good reports.
Cheers
PT
[QUOTE=Taloha] There are "upscale" local brothels that are not. You would not even know about these ones unless an "upscale" local took you.[/QUOTE]
You caught my attention as I certainly don't know of any upscale locals when I visited.
Care to enlighten us where these nice places are located and what the "higher" scale prices would be in case any of us decide to go for a visit.
Cheers
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Dude,
So glad you finally made it to PP.
I was reading your post and was happy for you as the info I sent seems to be working (at least the 1st half of your report) then saw you ignore my warnings (2nd half of report).
Despite all that happened, still glad you were not hurt or worst (dead). Loss of $20 is a small price for a hard lesson learned.
Don't feel too embarrassed about it all even though you knew it could happen. You took a gamble, you lost some money but gain back your life--given the odds, I still think you came out ahead. So thanks for posting your experiences for others to heed your warnings about more potentially dangerous happenings at St 63 brothels.
Stay safe and keep up your good reports.
Cheers
PT[/QUOTE]Thnxs,
I wuz rather shaken by that whole ordeal. There was a good chance I do not make it out of that house. Nobody saw me go in and nobody know I go there. Because of all the crackdowns, some place like this one locks doors. No way for me to get out without fight 4 armed guys. They could easy kill me or someone else and nobody will know or find.
Yes, $20 not much and I wuz expecting to have them clean out all my money. Surprise they let me go and not ask for all my money I still have in pockets.
I almost did not write about experience at ST63 but decide it is best to add the bad with the good so no other newbies will have to experience all I had to. I now believe it is best for others to also post bad experiences alone with the good ones so others will not follow same mistakes. I also know many will not because I also read how many are flamed for posting bad experiences.
Continue PP trip: Finish all my plan tourist sights and over the fright from St63 experience. Time to pick up action.
Went to the riverside for a walk but no find any SW for fun. Not sure if Im to early. Will come back later for another look. Maybe Im in wrong location. I am walking near California hotel.
Decide to go LeCycree for a look. Go in and sit down. Place not bad. Clean and friendly people. Another bloke inside already with beer in hand. I think one of you but it wuz the owner, a Frenchguy. He wuz friendly and talk english well. I order a beer and ask him questions to loose myself for action. He make 2 recommendations but I have eye on this cutie. He said she is good and bin there long time now. I notice her when I walk in by the nice rack she have with cute face. [url]http://www.bayonpearnik.com/cyrceeclub/index.html[/url]
The internet site with Le Cyrcee club. She is the 1st girl in front in the picture. Bloody shit, I cant recall her name?--just remember her nice racks.
She get off chair. Shit, very very short girl. No longer than 4'8" at best. but no matter as I continue to stare at her racks. She have tatoo on body also.
Finish beer and go upstairs. She wash me and we go to bed. She give me nice BJ. Last over 5min. I start to finger her and touch them nice racks. Very soft and smooth. She have good attitute, alwaz smiling at me. We cover many position as possible but her small height made many position difficult. Have her in doogie but she way too low. Have to stand outside bed to do her doggie but worth it. She not thin, little bit chubby but I like it because different. I think too many girls in Cambodia too skinny. This one have meat on her. I keep pumping her but take bit longer time, she is not very tight. no matter because need the extra exercise. Finally come on her nice titty racks.
Give her $3 tips and go down to pay rest of bill.
Total was $2 beer+ $12 for girl + $3 tips=17 and I was out the door happy.
This wuz about how much I lost yesterday at ST63 house and I didnt even get to finish and come. F**k those places there.
Here at Cycree, I leave happy and no rip off and safe place.
I walk back to riverside but alwaz looking around, very dark. Very little lights, only from some stores but most closed. I make it to river and start my walk again but still cant find any SW anywhere. I decide to try Walkabout.
I flag down motodop, not correct, motodop flag me. I say Walkabout, he sez ok and knows. He drive on but notice in wrong direction? I stop him and point that way, he turn and go. Bloody donn know where he was going. I have to direct him. I seem to know PP better than him. Make it to Walkabout bar. I give him 1000riels but he call me back, give him another 500r and he seem ok.
Walk inside and see tables but not much action. Several blokes having drinks and only 3 FL about, non to my liking. I sit anyway and have a beer and see if anything nice come in. 30min later still no action so I pay for beer and leave.
Shanghai not far so I walk over. Some nicer ones here. I sit down and order beer. Girls come over to talk and sit next to me. Bloody nice. But many donn speak english well. Decided on one cutie. I think they all work for bar. Shit, Could not decide early enough and the one I want already pick up by another guy , maybe one of you?
No one else interest me so I pay beer and leave.
Heart of darkness also close. I walk over. They body search me before I enter? Never have that before. Walk in and place wuz dead. Only 2 people in place but maybe too early at 11pm.
I walk back to the Flamingo Hotel, not far and call it a night.
Too be continue
Pirate1 out for now.
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Thanks for your straight up reports. Sorry about 63rd st,they do take the fun out of p4p. Give Martinis and Sharkys a go ,also try Sophies and soho2. Some nice bars/girls 104 st. The Heart from 12-4 am.
Good luck.
they were there last nite. i am staying at the paragon hotel and i was not sure until last nite if they are girl friendly. was knocking around the quay, drink a beer here and there. can't make up my mind if i want to go to sharky's or not. crossed the street (that can be a bit intimidating) to walk along the river. a guy jumped up from the grass, asked if i wanted a lady. she also got up and made the offer clearer. maybe a 6 or 7 but i was not interested in having her up in my room and him downstairs telling her to hurry up. politely declined.
continued my walk and a little later as i was walking next to the wall along the river a couple of seemingly shy types whispered/shouted "hello mister" but it was not a "for sure" invitation so i kept walking.
ten minutes later a cute little thing walked directly up to me and said, "where you go" and i said here i go. we sat down on the wall and she agreed to cim for $10. started at $20 but when i said ten she said ok. said she was 21 and that looked reasonable to me. all of this talk about **** has me spooked.
walked across the street where the young guy who is usually at the door of the hotel opened it without batting an eye. good sign i thought, hope they don't pitch a ***** about a girl. usually there is the whole family sitting around the lobby from grandma to a little kid or two.
walked past the desk, said hi to the kid behind the counter and up we went. nobody batted an eye. then it is up the craziest staircase i have ever been on. steps are different heights and if you are drunk it can be a real challenge. not to mention that when they say you are on the third floor, it means you have three more floors to go as they don't count the ground floor. elevator is a word that doesn't exist in this part of the world. so i have a fourth floor walkup which in ny would be cheaper but that doesn't cut the mustard here. the view is nice from my balcony though.
so i take the little lady into the room and she immediately drops drawers and says "yum yum now". i say well wait until i get my camera out and my pants off. she is very obliging for the camera. gyno shots seem like the norm. she helps spread for an internal. for such a little girl she seems to have a pretty big hairy pussy. she also has baggy tits which she blames now on a two year old kid. her english is spotty so i am not sure how much we are comunicating.
with my pants off we do communicate that it is time to do some yum yum. she gets with the program pretty well for a couple of minutes. then starts mumbling about more money and i am suggesting that if she stays with the program and gets her mouth back where it belongs we will both get out of here quicker.
at this part of the show she opens her mouth and sticks out her tongue for me to look at. a quick glance and i tell her all it needs is some white stuff running over it and it will be fine. she then comes up with the magic word as she points again to her tongue.
hiv
well, that was all it took to get my dick in a reclining state. we use condoms because we are afraid of the possability of running into hiv positive women. but when one says she is, and points to her tongue which you now realize does have a coating of something white and it ain't mine, that elicits a different response.
so i gave her $5 and she begged another buck for a moto and she headed for the door. after she was out and i was washing my dick i realized that i didn't know where my camera was. quit washing and started looking. no camera.
the phone rings. can't really understand what is being said but i assume it is instgiated by the girl showing up downstairs. "she stole my camera, dont let her go" and i am out the door. she is coming back up the stairs, reaching into the pocket of her shorts to get out my camera while begging me not to tell them downstairs that she had it.
in the lobby there are two guys and a women behind the counter and one guy at the door. the girl looks scared and i hope somebody kicks her ass. i repeat that she stole my camera and the older guy behind the counter really gets on her ass. i can't understand a word but he is not complementing her on her good looks. then the woman gets into the act and chews her out. they ask me if she stole any money and should they search her. finally they throw her out.
so much of the question of "are they girl friendly". not if she is a thief. i thanked them and went out and drank a beer which is what i am going to do now. i still like phnom phen. cool place but as others have warned, pay attention. this is not bangkok.
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Glad you didn't let your setback at St 63 the other night stop you from having more fun.
Another great report, couldn't have done it better myself.
I see you took my advice and picked the small girl with the big tits, fun girl. Funny thing is I can't remember her name either but only the tits.
Like many have also concur--Keep up the good reports.
Cheers
PT
[QUOTE=Benny09]Thanks for your straight up reports. Sorry about 63rd st,they do take the fun out of p4p. Give Martinis and Sharkys a go ,also try Sophies and soho2. Some nice bars/girls 104 st. The Heart from 12-4 am.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thnx,
These are place I plan to cover on my list to do.
Seems I was to early at Hearts of Dark., maybe I give another look if have time later in the night.
Benny, are you also newbie in PP?
Also thnx to PT2 for recommend my reports for Distinction. I believe you must take most of the credit as it was mostly from information you sent me.
To be continued,
Pirate1
[QUOTE=Pirate1]. I believe you must take most of the credit as it was mostly from information you sent me.
To be continued,
Pirate1[/QUOTE]
Hey Dude,
Thanks for the compliments. No need for me to take any of your good credits. Afterall, I only gave you info/hints/tips but its up to you to make them work.
PT
[QUOTE=Pirate1]Thnx,
These are place I plan to cover on my list to do.
Seems I was to early at Hearts of Dark., maybe I give another look if have time later in the night.
Benny, are you also newbie in PP?
Also thnx to PT2 for recommend my reports for Distinction. I believe you must take most of the credit as it was mostly from information you sent me.
To be continued,
Pirate1[/QUOTE]Pirate1,
Glad to hear you're back in the game.Please avoid the SW, they are scammers as is 63rd st.PT2 and others have all stated the risks hear.SW are even worse because they are in your room! 90% are yama addicts,not even slightly interested in your needs. To answer your question,i have been to PP a few times now and am somewhere between a newbie and a regular.Some locals remember me and that helps alot.Forgot to mention Mikado, same as LC but more layback.1 min walk from LC.
Happy hunting
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]You caught my attention as I certainly don't know of any upscale locals when I visited.
Care to enlighten us where these nice places are located and what the "higher" scale prices would be in case any of us decide to go for a visit.
Cheers
PT[/QUOTE]Hello PT2,
I hope this from my collection is the info you seek.
I copied this from the DV8 website nightlife link 6 months ago or so but don't
see it there now.
So please excuse my posting this long post instead of a convenient link.
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High End Escort Services (These places run out of girls by 12:00 midnight,
except Casa which is open until 3:00 a.m. and Holiday International Manhattan Club)
Casa Hotel Night Club and Restaurant No. 5 France Street 47 Near What Phnom Girls
arrive at 8:00 pm, all independent escorts with one mamamasan
Vietnamese $67 a night ($50 if you rent a karoke room)
Chinese $150 a night
Cambodians $67 a night (no negotiation on the prices)
Karoke room is $8 all night, girl is $7 plus tip of at least $10.
What you do is between each other, no sex in the room.
You can take her home for $50.
Club 99 No. 10 Street 252 Girls arrive at 8:00 p.m. Cambodians girls Vietnamese girls One mamason $70 a night (negotiated down to $60 a night)
Holiday International Manhattan Club Street 84, off Monivong Girls do not arrive until late at 1:00 a.m. Vietnamese, Chinese and Cambodian dance on the disco floor.
Tell the waiter you want to speak to the mamasan. Tell her who you want. $50 a night (I did not negotiate).
XO Club, No. 85 A, Street 163 By far the best looking girls, Vietnamese and Cambodian.
This is NOT an escort service. The rooms are $8 an up a night. The girls are free but expect a tip.
You sing karoke and hug them. They make money off the food and drinks. The girls drink what you buy them.
Many married women work here to make ends meet. The girls and beer girls will go home with you if they like you.
There is no pressure to go home with you. If you want a girl right away, ask to see the mamasan. Girls are $70 to
$100 a night. See also the Yellow Pages under nightclubs and karoke. "Karoke" is a code word for escort service and places like XO.
Low end escorts
Martinis - This is a freelancer bar and prices are negotiable, there are a couple of mamasans with a few girls.
There is no recourse on the bar if you stuff is stolen by any of the girls you may pick up here. Prices are around $10-$20.
The girls standing at night near the Independance Monument, near Wat Phnom and along street 106.
Be careful if you go to these places as you could easily be robbed. The girls on 106st are most pick pockets.
Walkabout.- Same as Martinis
Sharkies Bar.
Heart of Darkness. - You'll probably see many of the same girls you'd meet in Walkabout and Sharkies.
Le Crycee - Closest thing you'll get to a brothel.
Sophies Club - An experience, a BJ bar. STD's can be transmitted thru a BJ.
Mid Range Hostess bars.
There are about 20 or so hostess bars aimed at westerners, prices are negotiable and the girls are generally a better standard. Bars do not charge for sex services provided by the girls as this is illegal.
Hostess bars do have a bar fine that covers the loss of income created by not having the staff member in the bar.
Middle range escort services.
The Cambodian brothels are all located near the Lucky Star Hotel No 14 Street 336. At night, the brothel owners rent space at the hair salons. When you drive by, the pimps will call you in. The brothels are open during the day as well.
You have to knock on the doors. The girls are all Cambodian. Prices are $10 to $25. There are also girls that stand in groups of threes on the street corners nearby.
The Vietnamese brothels (there are four of them) are all located on Street 63Sangkat Phsar Thmei Ti 3. No. 40 is a brothel.
During the day it is a haircut shop. Knock on the door during the day. The girls are $30 a night. You can negotiate.
The girls at the brothels work harder to please you than the independents because the pimps actually beat them up if you complain, so don't support these places.
Motodops / Tuk Tuk Drivers.
Usually a good source of local knowledge, you'll never pay local prices but you will get to see a few places not generally talked about.
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One of the establishments from the "High End" places file I did visit.
The Casa Had Viet girls upstairs in a room, well-lit and must have been just over a hundred of them.
The girls were all wearing a number but very few bothered to make eye contact with me. I was a little early at about 8pm so they were still filing in and primping themselves infront of mirrors.
Some looked good, but what seperated these from the lower priced viet girls was they had money for beauty parlors and dressed better. Dosen't matter how good they look if they aren't showing any interest in me I wouldn't want them to go with me.
Left after 15 minutes and never asked (because nobody bothered to make an offer) if the $65 price tag was correct.
I do believe it was going to cost more than I would be willing to pay, lots of signs advertising Hennesy cognac if that tells you anything.
This Club Casa is also a nightclub and hotel, I recall when checking for wifi hotspots this place is one of them. Not sure what staying here would be like costwise, what the rooms are like or if the nightclub would be too noisey for sleeping.
Walked through the nightclub on the way to and from the viewing room with the viet girls and it was not opened yet and was extremely dark even though what appeared to be the staff, working, setting up the place for the opening.
It's located in the circle that goes around that park with the lite blue Wat off Sisowath Quay. Sorry don't have my map handy.
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[QUOTE=NanaHawk]
Bar 104 - never been inside but looks like a nice relaxing bar to have a drink in.[/QUOTE]At the time of your visit to 104 street OneZeroFour had about 26 girls in the bar, now it's down to about 17 but the number fluctuates.
Most go out, except for the manager and cashier and one other girl.
The bar has been gaining a lot of popularity over the last fews months and now is as busy as Zanzibar. Over the last month or so Zanzibar seems to have lost most of their better girls, including the 3 I liked.
Well, after four weeks in Phnom Penh, I'm finally filing a report.
It's taken me this long because I was searching for good news, but there's not much to be had. The sad fact is that the town is in a long, slow decline on the International Boom-Boom Scale and there are few signs that things are turning around.
Here are the three most important things I've noticed.
Fewer girls.
Somewhat less attractive girls.
Higher prices.
Before I go any further with this, I should probably say that I've been spending substantial amounts of time here – anywhere from 2 to 6 months a year – since 1997, which puts me in a relatively small group of people. So I actually do have a frame of reference. I knew the place when it was at its best, and I know it now.
And it ain't the same.
That doesn't mean that someone who's never been here, or has been here only a couple of times in the past two or three years, shouldn't come. There's more than enough available material, and it's still a bargain compared to other, um, shopping districts in Asia. You can still have a good time here.
Before we move on to some of the action spots, let me take a minute to compare the two varieties of companionship available here: Viets and Khmers.
Generally speaking, the Viets are more adventurous and more commercial. The Khmers take a narrower view of things. They tend to believe, for example, that the mouth is to be used for eating and talking. It's relatively rare to have a Khmer girl spend any time doing the Hoover on your little brother. On the other hand, the Khmers tend to be sweeter and cuddlier.
So if you want proficient, adventurous, and professional, go Viet. If you want a GFE (with a GF who doesn't do all that much) go Khmer. There are exceptions, of course. As Mark Twain said, no generalization is worth a damn, including this one.
Nevertheless, give me a Viet, every time.
And that's one of the problems. In the old days, the infamous Svay Pak served as a sort of farm team, the minor leagues in which Viet freelancers learned their skills. Now that it's gone, the continuous flow of new Viet talent has narrowed to a trickle. There are a few new faces, but only a few.
And several ladies of my acquaintance have told me that there are new problems for Viets trying to enter Cambodia. This has happened before, but it seems to be more of an issue now. A few girls coming back from their Viet New Year trip home had to try several times before getting back in.
Okay. The venues.
Martini is still the mother load if what you want is an evening doing the horizontal bop that doesn't require you to take out a second mortgage. There are still some beautiful girls here, about 60% Khmer and 40% Viet. (If you want to find out who's who, talk to a girl, find out which camp she belongs to, and then look to see who she hangs with. Generally speaking, there's not much international fraternization.) Set the price up front, get it clear which specialties you expect, and how long you want her to stay. These rules apply for everyplace on this list. If you think the price is too high, bargain. She'll either walk away or agree. But get it straight in advance/
Sharky is (I think) a pretty dreadful bar, but that's mostly because the guys who own it are really, really fond of 1980s big-hair metal and AC-DC. The music seems to start out reasonably acceptably and then get louder and worse as the evening wears (and I do mean wears) on. Still, the food here is pretty good – best Tex-Mex in PP – and there are some honeys in attendance. I'd say the mix is 65% Khmer and 35% Viet. More tattoos in evidence here than in Martini, along with whatever that implies.
Walkabout remains in business solely, I'm convinced, because it's open 24/7 and there are always girls there, although sometimes it should be written “girls” because many of them are well into their fourth decade. (For those of you who are counting, that's the thirties.) One other appealing thing about Walkabout is that there are short-time rooms upstairs. On the less appealing end of things, the quality of the talent is generally lower than at Martini or Sharky, and they wash the tables approximately once a year, whether they need it or not. The damp “cleaning towels” at Walkabout are among the world's most fearsome objects. One note – there's generally a slump in the number of females present from about 4:30 PM until about 6:30 as the ladies go to make up and dress up for the evening.
Sophie remains Sophie. It still offers suck-the-knob contests at the bar and a couple of really awful rooms in the back. There's nowhere else like it, which may or may not be a bad thing. Most of the talent has been there an awfully long time. 100% Khmer, but all bets are off, since Sophie's girs are famous for being willing to do anything. Anything at all.
Le Cyrcee has gotten some bad-mouthing lately because of rises in the room and service rates, but don't miss it. The girls have gotten well beyond the friendly stage, and there are now some Viets available – maybe 4 or 5 out of about 30. Once again, though, unless you simply have a genetic preference for Viets, it doesn't matter here – these girls are up for pretty much anything you can think of.
Mikado gets my vote as most improved bar. Last time I was in there (last night) there were 30-some Khmer girls hanging around doing nothing. One of the wonderful things about Mikado is that the young ladies are apparently prohibited from wearing panties and are not shy about demonstrating the fact. Take a seat at the bar, do a survey of what's available, and then take her (or them) and adjourn to one of the little booths along the wall opposite the bar while you check out your mutual chemistry and the absence of her underwear. Then take her upstairs to the best short-time rooms in PP – cleaned between sessions, with sparkly lights and mirrors literally everywhere, including on the ceiling. Of course, if it turns out your choice has had three or four children, you'll get multiple-camera coverage of her stretch marks, but nothing is perfect. Standard of service is very high.
DV8 has some of the friendliest girls in town – not always the most attractive, but really sweet. And it would seem (ssshhhhhh) that rooms are once again available on the premises for those of you who may have a sweetie asleep at home.
Other bars: Golden Vine says it has girls dancing (clothed) on the bar, but every time I go in it just ended for the evening. Girls are okay, nothing to make you make a deposit in the memory bank, but not all of them are available. Same is true of the bar next door with a Mexican name I can't remember at the moment – bar dancing that always seems to have just ended, and a yes/no situation with take-out. On the same little block is Voodoo, which is same-same except it doesn't claim to have girls dancing on the bar. Some pretty girls in here. Happy Man Bar is a relative newcomer. Lots of girls, generally in the 5-7 area, mostly available for further exploration elsewhere.
This could go on forever. In fact, it already has. On the brothel front, 63rd Street remains (mostly) closed, and foreigners are not made to feel welcome in the places that are still in business. Toul Kork is dirty and dangerous. There are some beautiful girls here, but there's always a chance that you'll just get one glance as the mama-san slams the metal doors shut in your face. Svay Pak is a ghost town, with some rumored action off the main street, but I think you'd have to be crazy to go there.
So my tips: find half a dozen girls you like, get their phone numbers, and then work to make your phone book ever thicker. Treat the girls nicely, and word will get around: you'll get attention from some of the better-looking talent in the venue of your choice.
You can still have a great time here. It's just more difficult.
RS
Great report, but a little discouraging, as I'm off to PP in 2 weeks for the first time. Is there a chance you just happen to hit at a bad time?
Here are the three most important things I've noticed.
Fewer girls.
Somewhat less attractive girls.
Higher prices.
[QUOTE=Rising Son]Well, after four weeks in Phnom Penh, I'm finally filing a report.
You can still have a great time here. It's just more difficult.
RS[/QUOTE]RS,
Excellent report man. Great info. I'm headed back in a few months so the update is really helpful. Price hikes suck though. PP has gotten alot of international attention recently.
[QUOTE=Rising Son]You can still have a great time here. It's just more difficult.
RS[/QUOTE]RS, thanks for the great report. I'll be in SR & PP in April. I'm a regular monger around Asia but my first visit to Cambodia.
Your post kind of solidified some of my choices after reading this forum for the past few months. As I can't take girls back to my room, my plans were: Sophies, Cyrcee & Mikado. Based on your post, looks like these are a good match for my tastes. I'll move Mikado to the top of the list. I gotta go to Sophies (I got this vision of this place with guys getting sucked off at the bar. Gotta see it for myself). Then if I've got steam left I'll head to Cyrcee.
Thanks again for taking the time to post.
I'll give a F and SR once I'm back.
Bow Wow
Hi Rising Son,
That is a really great report that is packed with information and is a good read. I agree with everything you say and would add that, apparrently, the Viets who did not have 'work permits' were kicked out of Phnom Penh and this explains the smaller numbers than previously.
I found that the Golden Vine prices were much higher than other bars, and wouldn't say that I was the ugliest, fattest and fattest person to visit Phnom Penh. Are you able to say what price you negotiated here?
Your post is as worthy as any to be posted as a Report of Distinction, does it need to be recommended by the editor?
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Your post is as worthy as any to be posted as a Report of Distinction, does it need to be recommended by the editor?[/QUOTE]No, ROD don't need to be approved or recommended by the author or by ISG management. Simply follow the directions for posting on the ROD thread. If a post is worthy then it should be in the ROD for easy reference but take notice that many have been flamed in the past for posting ROD that were unworthy. So always make sure it is informative and will be useful for your fellow mongers.
BTW: I also read Rising Son's post and was about to post it in the ROD but AZN already beat me to it.
Cheers,
PT
[QUOTE=Rising Son]Well, after four weeks in Phnom Penh, I'm finally filing a report.
RS[/QUOTE]Hey RS,
Spending 4 weeks in PP, damn do I envy you. Nice report.
Last I heard, you were in the hospital recovering and after getting kicked out of hospital I thought you were heading for Chinese food (oops-I mean pussy)--ha ha.
Glad you made it to PP.
Cheers
PT
[QUOTE=Muleface]Great report, but a little discouraging, as I'm off to PP in 2 weeks for the first time. Is there a chance you just happen to hit at a bad time?[/QUOTE]I'm afraid the report is pretty accurate and I saw the same trend.
I've been to PP many times from 2001-2004, then in 2005 only once and since then never again. And I don't see any reason to visit PP nowadays.
But for first-timer it's an interesting place, no doubt.
Cheers!
Comments on RisingSons great report: The bar with the Mexican name you don't recall is the Zapata bar. The owners here also own the Zanzibar in st 104, the girls in this bar and the Rose Bar in the same street, go into The Pickled Parrot after work. The Pickled Parrot is a 24 hour bar. Some of these girls are looking for a place to sleep of a night, so if your offering your bed untill the morning. Here's your chance, some will have sex with you, some will not.
[QUOTE=Ipohdog]As I can't take girls back to my room, my plans were: Sophies, Cyrcee & Mikado. Based on your post, looks like these are a good match for my tastes. I'll move Mikado to the top of the list. I gotta go to Sophies (I got this vision of this place with guys getting sucked off at the bar. Gotta see it for myself). Then if I've got steam left I'll head to Cyrcee.
Bow Wow[/QUOTE]Other option is getting a room short time. just ask the hotel guy how much for 1-2 hrs. they'll give you a reduced rate (around 50%) prob 3-7 bucks depending on the place.
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In the future, if you feel any post should be posted there, then just follow the instructions below. Cheers.
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-- for all the nice words about my earlier report. I wish it had been more positive, but I thought it was more important to be honest than to be entertaining.
I never actually took anyone out of Golden Vine, so can't help with the prices there. And, of course, the bar near GV and VooDoo is called Zapata. Thanks for the prod. I think I'm short-circuiting lately.
By the way, I want to say that Casa (mentioned earlier) is a nightmare -- too loud, too dark, too unfriendly, too jittery. It eats it. And I have always found the disco in what used to be the Holiday International (now renamed the Oasis) to be full of girls who are really interested only in heavyweight Khmers or well-heeled Chinese, especially since the hotel is (or was) owned by Singaporean Chinese, who also accounted for most of their guests.
I have to say that the best-looking Viet girls I've seen this trip are at Moscow, and they cost plenty: $75 to $100. At that price I haven't bitten, but it's not because my mouth wasn't hanging open. There are some real stunners there.
On the other hand, I left out one piece of good news. The season is finally coming to an end. Thus, due to the classic capitalistic economic model, PP is shifting from a seller's market to a buyer's market. Many of the best-looking girls at Martini are spending most of the evening sitting on the wall.
Bad bargaining position for them, good bargaining position for us.
On Sunday I'm going to the Dongguan-ChangPing area of China for a couple of weeks (or more) before coming back here. Will do some sort of report after I've sorted out my impressions.
RS
Has anyone ever been to the Sugar Shack bar? Also what kind of bar is it and are all the girls available for take out? Their website looks appealing.
Phantomtiger2,
The links in your Feb 28 post do not work.
nocbj4me
[QUOTE=Ibeme]Has anyone ever been to the Sugar Shack bar? Also what kind of bar is it and are all the girls available for take out? Their website looks appealing.[/QUOTE]If you go thru the alleyway next to California 2 and make a left turn as you exit you will be right ihn front of the Sugar Shack.
It is a smallish bar that has reinvented it's self from a wine bar that was going broke to a comfortable place that at times has some lovelies available to bar fine.
[QUOTE=NoCBJ4Me]Phantomtiger2,
The links in your Feb 28 post do not work.
nocbj4me[/QUOTE]Hi NoCB,
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Cheers
PT
This is the report on my February visit to Phnom Penh.
Lodging was at Flamingo hotel as recommended by many on ISG. 20 USD per night for room adequately furnished; A/C, TV, shower & phone.
One way airport transfer is included in the hotel price so you can either email and inform the hotel of your arrival flight detail or have them deliver you to airport free of charge but the other way you have to pay for it.
Thogh the hotel location is very close to many actions but I did not take the advantage as nothing particularly interesting appealed to me either at Walkabout (many girls but no one particularly attractive) or Shanghai.
Decided that Martini should be the best bet, took a moto there for 1 USD. Drink price is reasonable at 1.5-2 USD for beers. Many girls with mix of Viets and Khmers around half half. Many of them just standing, sitting to wait for customers but only a few would actively come to you to offer themselves except some mamasan whom would ask what type of girl you like and she would try to arrange for you.
Went into disco but a bit difficult to distinguish how good they will look like under brighter lighting. Also, heavily polluted with smokes with loud music so I decided to return to the garden. Spotted a young Viet girl so smiled to her and she came to me. But not just herself but also mamasan as she is said to be new to the scene and not able to speak much English. I realized from the moment that this would not come down to the price of 20 USD LT as stated on this firum since it's going through middlewoman; but what I can do as not seeing better one I'd like to spend the night with. Agreed to 30 USD LT to keep her until 8 AM for this 21 yearsold whom later told me she started to work for just one month and used to work at hair salon.
The girl was good in the way that she's fresh but this also means inexperience in service so not much to talk about on that. But at least she's friendly and had no refusing my requests so I rate this as OK.
Sophie was on my agenda since reading so many reports here good and bad. So, the best is to see it first hand myself. Went there around 11 PM and had to knock on door to be opened from inside.
2 guys sitting there but just drinking and no actions seen as expected. One was farang waiting for room to be available and the other was a Cambodian guy. My assumption of no action going on which was verified later by the moto man downstair is that they don't want local people to see what is going on for fear of security. They seem to have policy of not servicing locals and not let them see what the bar usually does.
So, unfortunately I did not have the chance to try each girls before selecting one by instinct. All girls here are Khmers with no Viets. As this is a BJ bar so level of service for BJ is good. The girl I chose did it for quite sometime and asked if I want to CIM or FS for which I said the latter. It was quite a good experience for the service but one thing I don't quite like is quality of room. Very simple and probably overused and a bit doubtful hygiene level as bed sheets not seem to be replaced.
If the management can refurbish the rooms it will make it a more enjoyable experience.
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[QUOTE=Saint Jack]
2 guys sitting there but just drinking and no actions seen as expected. One was farang waiting for room to be available and the other was a Cambodian guy. My assumption of no action going on which was verified later by the moto man downstair is that they don't want local people to see what is going on for fear of security. They seem to have policy of not servicing locals and not let them see what the bar usually does.
So, unfortunately I did not have the chance to try each girls before selecting one by instinct.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I actually didn't know this part as no one before had mention that locals were not serviced at Sophies. I'm only guessing this is meant for the average local worker off the streets. Although the prices here are way above what an average local worker can afford, I truly wonder if this non-local policy is true as many locals in PP have more money than we do (I've seen them with their fancy cars, bodyguards etc) . Not sure they will get turned down when they start flashing their money around at Sophies.
Also Not really sure about the part that Sophies don't want locals to know what goes on in Sophies because if every motodop/ taxi in PP knows about this place then its not a secret anyway.
They may not like to service a poorer local guy (remember locals are famous for not tipping) but I'm fairly certain he already knows what goes on there---IMO
PT
First trip to Cambodia.
Ok guys my mind is set I will try my first visit to Cambodia.
I will go from Bangkok to Cambodia by airplane.
I will go to PP Phnom Penh.
I read a lot off PP her one the board and I am pretty sure I going to like it.
But to make sure I have all the Wright info on PP I will tell you guys how I am going to do it in general line I mean.
So her goes:
I com to PP airport and there I am going to take a taxi to my hotel (Flamingos Hotel) 20$ for one night.
I hoop this info is correct and I will pay for the taxi 5$ to 10$ something in-between. Or do I have to take an other hotel in PP but it have to be girl friendly off cores? There I will go look for some nice girls on the board thy say grab a motorbike taxi and he get you everywhere you want for the price of 5$ for the day is this info correct to?
So when I take a lady I like for a short time I suppose to pay 15$ to 20$ ST yes or no guys?
And when I take a lady long time to say to spend the all day and night whit me I pay 30$ to 40$ is this info correct to?
I will go on 24 or 25 this month and I going to stay for about 5 days in PP my pocket money I am going to take is 1250 $ will this be ok or chute I take more money? This money is for 5 or 6 days off drinking, hotels and lady’s will this be in off. If there is any off you guys in PP that time please tell me I will happy to go along and enjoy whit him and its my first time in PP so I can need a guide over in PP. That’s it guys I hoop all my info on Cambodia PP is correct when not please tell me what I have to do ok.
Thanks guys need all the info I can get so tell me more ok.
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Ok guys my mind is set I will try my first visit to Cambodia.
Taxi to hotel should be no more then seven dollars s/t 10 tip if you are happy l/t is 20 tip if happy, let me say that this is a base line you will run into other factors for price increases, bars on 102, 104, have bar fines. Around six dollars. There are superstars out there (I have not seen any so far) but I am sure there out there and I am sure they price accordingly I will be there in same hotel the week of the 18th thu 24th but I think I will travel south to the beach then back to Thailand.
[QUOTE=Goa Master]First trip to Cambodia.
Ok guys my mind is set I will try my first visit to Cambodia.
I will go from Bangkok to Cambodia by airplane.
I will go to PP Phnom Penh.
I read a lot off PP her one the board and I am pretty sure I going to like it.
But to make sure I have all the Wright info on PP I will tell you guys how I am going to do it in general line I mean.[/QUOTE]Before anyone reponds to this guy, I recommend you read his other 9 posts on ISG. It all looks very suspicious.
In Aug 2006 he asks similar questions saying that he is about to arrive in PP:
[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=499792[/url]
and he then thanks everyone for their help:
[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=500370[/url]
Although now he says it is his first time to come to PP.
Also, very similar posts have been made on these boards:
Bratislava
Frankfurt
Amsterdam
Vienna (twice)
Manila (twice)
Sorry but this is really going to be my first trip to PP.
And about all the other treats you right I ask it because I have to bring back some lady to BKK and I was thinking off only take the airplain to Vienna and get some mongering there but what the fuck I am going all the way to BKK for one week and now I am alone so I can go everywhere.
This explain the treats Azn Playa.
But ok when nobody whant to help ok for me I take car for it myself I am a fast learning guy.
All your questions are answered if you know how to read the information on this thread. You don't have to ask over and over the same questions already answerd by others postings, just read and try tounderstand. St is 10 and 15, lt 20 to 25 no tip required, your payment is the tip. Do not shower people with your money it is very bad for everybody.
[QUOTE=Goa Master]First trip to Cambodia.
Ok guys my mind is set I will try my first visit to Cambodia.
I will go from Bangkok to Cambodia by airplane.
I com to PP airport and there I am going to take a taxi to my hotel (Flamingos Hotel) 20$ for one night.
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No taxi needed for pickup from airport if you are staying at Flamingos. Just let them know ahead which day and time your plane arrives and its a free pickup to their hotel.
PT
[QUOTE=Azn Playa]...very similar posts have been made on these boards:
Bratislava
Frankfurt
Amsterdam
Vienna (twice)
Manila (twice)[/QUOTE]
Azn Playa,
I agree with you. All the same type questions, and in a relatively short period of time. Maybe he runs a sex travel website and is trying to get us to update his prices/info for him.
nocbj4me
[QUOTE=Goa Master]I take car for it myself I am a fast learning guy.[/QUOTE]
Seems you have to be. Good luck!
Cheers!
I was in PP a few months ago, and went to a place I read about called...new world massage if I remember correctly. Well, it was a big fishbowl with the best looking girls seated outside the fishbowl. Those girls, I was told, were all from China, and the girls inside the fishbowl were local Cambo girls.
I picked a Chinese girl. In the room, I asked her about boom boom, and she seemed surprised, then said "one hundred dolla." I made a counter offer of ten dolla. Well she wouldn't go any lower than 70 dolla!
So I am wondering, is this normal for this place? You have to be nuts to pay a price like that in Cambodia.
I took her back to the front desk and asked to choose somebody else. I ended up choosing a local girl and she agreed on $20 for the extras.
Anyway, can anyone else confirm that these "sideline" girls at New World are really all charging that much?
As for the rest of my recent PP trip, the best girls were at Martini and Mikado, IMO. The girl named "Mom" at Mikado is a super sweetie.
[QUOTE=Gumbyy]I was in PP a few months ago, and went to a place I read about called...new world massage if I remember correctly. Well, it was a big fishbowl with the best looking girls seated outside the fishbowl. Those girls, I was told, were all from China, and the girls inside the fishbowl were local Cambo girls.
I picked a Chinese girl. In the room, I asked her about boom boom, and she seemed surprised, then said "one hundred dolla." I made a counter offer of ten dolla. Well she wouldn't go any lower than 70 dolla!
So I am wondering, is this normal for this place? You have to be nuts to pay a price like that in Cambodia.
I took her back to the front desk and asked to choose somebody else. I ended up choosing a local girl and she agreed on $20 for the extras.
Anyway, can anyone else confirm that these "sideline" girls at New World are really all charging that much?
As for the rest of my recent PP trip, the best girls were at Martini and Mikado, IMO. The girl named "Mom" at Mikado is a super sweetie.[/QUOTE]I came by place when I wuz in PP. Many lookers look hot. Prices high so dunn pickup. Some willing to go for $40-50 but only ST, never ask LT so dunn know LT pricing.
Like you, think ask to much for PP.
Dunn know if ladies chinese ,viet or khmer but price dunn attract me to stay. Also dunn think service at this place can be better than Sophie and cheaper.
PT
Who is driving all these luxurious Lexus Land Cruisers I see in PP? Is it Cambodia's newly rich people? Or is it the self-denying do-gooders in the NGOs?
[QUOTE=Gumbyy]Who is driving all these luxurious Lexus Land Cruisers I see in PP? Is it Cambodia's newly rich people? Or is it the self-denying do-gooders in the NGOs?[/QUOTE]
Depends pal.
Seen some NGO drive in 4x4 usual white cruisers but don't remember if Lexus--doubt it though.
Have many rich Khmer officials and business like people who are rich even by our standards. Easy way of telling is see if passenger in Lexus is farang (NGO) or khmer looking dude.
PT
[QUOTE=Gumbyy]Who is driving all these luxurious Lexus Land Cruisers I see in PP? Is it Cambodia's newly rich people? Or is it the self-denying do-gooders in the NGOs?[/QUOTE]Seen many rich khmer clowns with family living in mansions and driving big Lexus all livin near the Royal Palace area. All think own the streets of PP, maybe they do?
Not Ngo, all Khmer.
Pirate1
[QUOTE=Gumbyy]Who is driving all these luxurious Lexus Land Cruisers I see in PP? Is it Cambodia's newly rich people? Or is it the self-denying do-gooders in the NGOs?[/QUOTE]Hi Gumbyy,
Cambodia has a system of colour coding that exists on car registration plates. From this you can tell the vehicles registered as military, private or NGO. I'm struggling to remember the details but am thinking that white background is 'Private', Green background is NGO and Blue is military[Can anyone else help out here?].
As PhantomTiger says, the white Land Cruiser is almost standard issue to NGO and I think you will find the more flash, 4x4 and Hummers, belonging to private individuals; the gap between the rich and the poor in Cambodia is flaunted so blatantly!
Hawk
Yes, the military plates are blue and say RCAF on them.
Hey guys,
Thanks for all the good info here, I think I have almost all the information I need for my first trip to PP next month.
One thing I haven't been able to find is any information about the FCC. Foreign Correspondents Club. I have been booked to stay here by the guys I am travelling with and would like any info anybody has on location for nightlife and whether it is girl friendly etc.
Cheers
Kavorka,
the FCC is right in the middle of the Riverside cafes, restaurants & bars. In PP nothing is too far by moto. From the FCC it's about 5 mins to St51, 10 mins to St104/108 and about 10-15 mins to Martini's.
I'm not sure how GF the rooms at the FCC are, I doubt whether I would feel comfortable bringing a girl back there. Nice place though.
enjoy, enjoy,
Kens.
[QUOTE=Kavorka341]
One thing I haven't been able to find is any information about the FCC. Foreign Correspondents Club. I have been booked to stay here by the guys I am travelling with and would like any info anybody has on location for nightlife and whether it is girl friendly etc.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
No problems whatsoever in FCC. As they are restaurant based what goes on in the room side of the business goes largely unnoticed. Well done scoring a room there - they are booked solid most of the time!
Location is good. Timings to the various haunts as per Kens below (less a couple of minutes on each journey).
FCC is in one of the most picturesque parts of the city. Excellent location. You overlook the Tonle Sap River, food is great, beer cold, and no issues with guests. You are in walking distance of many restaurants and bars. Also within 5-15 minutes by motobike to the other bars and nighclub areas in PP. Enjoy it ! !
Hi boys,
I heard there were some hairdressing salons in PP where you get bj to go with your haircut. Can somebody tell me where exactly are they? I saw some on St. 63 that I wasn't sure about, but it's not like I can walk in and ask "Excuse me, miss, will you blow me afterwards?"
Hope you can help, I really need a haircut :)
I sent an e-mail to FCC via their web site regarding "joiners". They very quickly replied "I would like to inform you there is no problem for that". So indeed there is no problem bringing ladies back for an overnight.
Ok, so I had already read all the reports against going to St 63. But I was curious...
So I had a walk down from Sorya shopping center, to see what I might find. After about 15 mins of walking, I wasn't seeing anything interesting, so headed back on the other side. Passed a place with motos sitting around. One called out 'massage'. I asked him how much and where they were. Upstairs, $10. Fine, I'm not going to haggle.
He opens those big metal doors in front of every shop and then closes them behind me. I'm on my guard, my boxing training always present and ready, should something untoward happen. I was wearing a pouch with my $1400 camera in it too, perhaps this wasn't wise. Anyway, I'd rather have it with me, than in my hotel which anyone could get into. I sat down and looked at the available talent. 4 girls, a couple cute. Choose one, go upstairs into a seedy little room with condoms on the floor.
Clothes off, hang them on the wall next to the door. Interesting, I note how she moved mine closer to the door. Alarm bells were going off, probably should've been going off louder come to think of it. So anyway, I declined her suggestion of a massage with my face down. So i jumped on top and started plowing her. I don't know what triggered me to look behind, for there was no sound, but I did and saw a hand reaching into the room. I yelled and jumped toward the door, the hand disappeared quickly and was gone. I checked my stuff. All there. I wasn't done, but still hard. Maybe excitement like this is really my kind of thing, but I wasn't going to gamble further. I ripped the condom off and got dressed. I knew this must've been the same place that ripped Pirate1 off, so I was expecting pipe-weilding thugs to be hanging around. As it happened, no-one was around. I left, not before letting the guy know my feelings about his style of business.
I feel pretty stupid. People who run businesses like these with a crowd of girls in a squalid little shack, certainly are a little low on moral fiber. Putting yourself behind their closed doors, will very certainly lead to no good. I'm still wondering how I managed to escape with everything. Maybe it's their system, get someone in, try to steal, if there's trouble, call the heavies. My girl, just as much a victim I guess, although complicit in the whole operation, was nonetheless cute. I guess, though I didn't ask at the time given my fury, it might have been better as a take-out rather than dine-in. Either way, I'm sticking to more up-and-up establishments from now on.
Big thank you to Pirate1 and Phantomtiger2 for their reports. Without the underlying sense of insecurity that those posts gave me, I might have lost everything. For those wondering where this place was, it was on St 63 around St 174 or 178 intersections. All I can remember is the gates to the shop were light blue.
Ok, just like Gonad and many others I have read scam reports about St. 63, but decided to go anyway today and be careful. BAD idea.
A guy at the door told me I can't go in with the camera, so I give it to my buddy along with the extra cash and go through huge metal doors. My friend waits outside. 5 girls come downstairs, I take a cutie up. She goes in the shower and in the room I put my pants with $20 on the floor where I will see them. The girl starts putting my clothes on the hooks by the door. Oh no, honey, I read ISG and know better than that!
I put them on the floor again. She asks why won't I hang them on the wall. I tell her straight up that it's becausese somebody can steal my shit this way. She goes to the "shower" (again!).
Comes back, I lock the door, I definitely lock the door and I checked whether it opens from the outside w/o a key, it doesn't. I checked whether that plywood wall had anything funny about it, but didn't find anything suspicious.
I recall she was hugging my head harder than normal, so I took the eyes off the floor. We're at it and not 1 minute goes by, I hear door shutting behind my back! I immediately jump up and my pants are gone - fucking magic! Somebody must've crawled on the floor right beside me to get them. I jump outside (and note that the button that locks the door from the inside is in the "open" position. Balls naked with a rubber on my hard-on. Nobody's there. I'm like "ok, fuck it I'm screwed, just get me my pants back, keep the money". Another girl comes up and they're both saying "after, after" and try to entice me to go back with the girl and finish the deed. I'm pissed, but calmly and firmly tell them to get me my pants back, keep the fucking money.
So finally another girl comes up and gives me my jeans, but you know what's fucking weird? THE MONEY IS STILL THERE! All $20 of it and the batteries in another pocket. We go back in the room. I was shocked, I'm like "HUH? Why didn't they take the $?", but she doesn't understand me. She tries to fuck again, but I'm too wound up, so I just leave, who knows what other scams they got up their sleeve?
So, I got 2 questions for the experts out there:
1. Why didn't they take the money?
2. If they were going to rob me from the start why did the guy tell me to not bring the camera inside?
I'm staying away from St. 63 from now on. Be safe.
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[QUOTE=Traffic777]Ok, just like Gonad and many others I have read scam reports about St. 63, but decided to go anyway today and be careful. BAD idea.
So, I got 2 questions for the experts out there:
1. Why didn't they take the money?
2. If they were going to rob me from the start why did the guy tell me to not bring the camera inside?
I'm staying away from St. 63 from now on. Be safe.
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Mates, Unlike me, you mates wuz lucky. Many places operate differ. Some place like Gonad Man will not letz you go easy but he lucky got out quick before reinforcements arrive to "escort" him out.
You wuz also lucky as they make you feel place honest-tell you leave things outside, but will steal what you have on. Lucky you caught them asses so no want trouble and letz you go.
Me mates wuz not as lucky. As me posted, shoulda listen to big mate Phantomtiger he the best, honest mate and prepares us all with good advice and knows the score. Me ignored his sound advice and almost paid with me life. Me still think lucky me can still write about it and not have broken hands or worst.
pirate1
[quote=traffic777]ok, just like gonad and many others i have read scam reports about st. 63, but decided to go anyway today and be careful. bad idea. [/quote]i sounds to me like some people here are deluding themselves when mongering in poor countries. the girls at the st. 63 brothels are not there by choice. they have all been sold by parents or were tricked in some way or another. the place they take you is the 2nd-3rd floor with the crappy rooms. the 4th floor is where they [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]/beat the girls (i know). 6 months ago there was even a scared chinese girl who only spoke mandarin. imported from somewhere but sucks for her since she needs to know khmer or viet to get around. the khmer price is 5-8000 riel which is about 1. 25. 2. 00 to screw the girls but in pp central it may be a little more. i pay $5 but at times i've paid less since i'm viet kieu and speak the local chinese dialect as well.
as a foreigner they will make 1 attempt to swipe a wallet just because the girls only get $1-2 per fuck even if they charge you 10. in some cases the girl will get a bigger share. if they manage to take even $20 from you then that equates to 5-15 extra fucks while they know that foreigners are not repeat business and just going to leave. even if they were a repeat business, they'd have to come a couple of times a week for a couple of months. logically it makes sense to attempt a swipe. you just have to understand their mentality.
remember that you are going to there to pay 5-10 to fuck a girl in a dirty room who isn't happy about it. some of you may have even noticed that some of the girls even pout and refuse to budge while you are doing the deed?
the freelancers at least fare better.
now that being said i will advise again that cambodia is full of scams. hotel scams, tourist scams, moto scams, monger related scams, etc. always be careful and if it seems strange then avoid and be sure to assert yourself. if you look like a patsy and act like a patsy then you will be a patsy. i'm aware so i always roll my jeans and put the opposite wall from the door. none of this massage first crap either.
i will be back in june for a stopover.
[QUOTE=Gonad Man]
Big thank you to Pirate1 and Phantomtiger2 for their reports. Without the underlying sense of insecurity that those posts gave me, I might have lost everything. For those wondering where this place was, it was on St 63 around St 174 or 178 intersections. All I can remember is the gates to the shop were light blue.[/QUOTE]
You guys continue to amaze me. Curious bunch indeed. I do what I can to alert all that can happen and although you guys went anyway, at least you were aware of what the dangers are and got out before anything happened. Remember that curiousity did kill the cat. Stay safe guys and glad you are all ok.
Good or bad experiences, keep the reports cumming as I do enjoy reading all that happens there. I do admit that I miss PP , so have to read about it until my eventual return.
And Hollow Man, obviously you can show me alot more than what I could find on my own.
PT
[quote=hollow man]i sounds to me like some people here are deluding themselves when mongering in poor countries. the girls at the st. 63 brothels are not there by choice. they have all been sold by parents or were tricked in some way or another. the place they take you is the 2nd-3rd floor with the crappy rooms. the 4th floor is where they [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]/beat the girls (i know). [/quote]hi hollow man,
there are many good points but the above quote is the most important for me. i have mongered in se asia for too many years but have always tried to avoid situations where the girl has no choice. one of the reasons for having some doubt as to whether i've achieved this is the situation at places like martini's. when the 'mamasan' arranges some girl for you who can speak only a little english is it really just an act of friendship on her part or she doing this because of some form of indenture?
i would value your input on this subject.
hawk
So now, that St. 63 is off the list, where can one find action during the daytime? Also, I'm still looking for a fs barber, anybody knows?
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]One of the reasons for having some doubt as to whether I've achieved this is the situation at places like Martini's. When the 'mamasan' arranges some girl for you who can speak only a little English is it really just an act of friendship on her part or she doing this because of some form of indenture?[/QUOTE]I was curious about this as I sipped on my beer and watched the movie in the garden the other night. The girl next to me was Cambodian from Battambang and instead of listening to her jabber on about her boyfriends I asked her what the deal was with the mamasan. She said that when she first got there, she couldn't speak English, so the mama 'helped' her find men. Now, the mama herself is Vietnamese and this girl started to notice that the viet girls would get all the "good man" and yet repeatedly the mama would set her up with "drunk, angry man". All the while taking half of the profits.
She said she is not going to pay the mama any more because her English is good enough. I say, screw the mamas. No English necessary. Numerical amounts, cash, love (sex), these are all universal things which can easily be worked out. And while "let me put my finger in that special place" mightn't be so easy to universalize, I'm sure it would be fun to try.
On the subject of those 63rd street places, I have taken a different stance now. There's no such thing as a free lunch, nor a really really cheap f*ck. You'll pay somehow and you should in this case. If I were to go there again (and I might) I would probably pay the 10 up front, put 5 in my pocket for the mystery hands, and keep five in my fist for the girl. 20 bucks ain't so bad, after all.
First post!
I will go to Cambodia in May. I've been in Thailand 5 times and think the girls are getting more rude and fatter. Is Cambodia better you think? What is the difference?
Yea, Gonad man is right. The mamasan takes a small cut. New and shy girls dont know what to do so the mamasan bring the girls to men and tries to apply a little pressure to the men to take a girl usually by bringing 2-3 girls and asking the men "you like?" After awhile the girls don't need the mamasan and go off on their own but occasionally the mamasan might get a point a girl out to a guy and if he says yes then the girl gives a tip to the mamasan for bringing them business.
If you plan on using the st 63 spots then keep clothes away form door, refuse massage, do the deed, drop them a $1-2 tip afterwards. If you want something more than just a release then go to a pick-up bar or club. I've heard good things about the streetwalkers but personally I'm still wary so haven't partaken. Maybe next time around.
[QUOTE=Gonad Man]On the subject of those 63rd street places, I have taken a different stance now. There's no such thing as a free lunch, nor a really really cheap f*ck. You'll pay somehow and you should in this case. If I were to go there again (and I might) I would probably pay the 10 up front, put 5 in my pocket for the mystery hands, and keep five in my fist for the girl. 20 bucks ain't so bad, after all.[/QUOTE]Me dunn think this good idea.
You always need watch your back in area and dunn relax during time with lady. Why not go to place know can get good honest lady. For $20, most honest place in PP can service you.--me opinion only
Pirate1
Since I just been to Thailand before, is it alot different in cambodia? Some people says cambodia is what Thailand was 30years ago. True?
[QUOTE=Ynervalt Garr]First post!
I will go to Cambodia in May. I've been in Thailand 5 times and think the girls are getting more rude and fatter. Is Cambodia better you think? What is the difference?[/QUOTE]
Main difference is in the # of P4P gals. Thailand have a huge overwhelming # of gals waiting to service you,---- SW, MPs, brothels etc.
Cambo have much much less by comparison. I've heard from others that there were more gals for action in Pattaya alone than the entire country of Cambo.
And yes, fat and rude gals exist everywhere including Cambo.
Only good thing about Cambo is the prices are cheaper if you have decent negotiating skills. If you have no skills then prices are about even.
PT
[QUOTE=Gonad Man]
On the subject of those 63rd street places, I have taken a different stance now. There's no such thing as a free lunch, nor a really really cheap f*ck. You'll pay somehow and you should in this case. If I were to go there again (and I might) I would probably pay the 10 up front, put 5 in my pocket for the mystery hands, and keep five in my fist for the girl. 20 bucks ain't so bad, after all.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with others that if you are willing to spend $20 on a gal then you can get this price almost anywhere in PP, so why pay or possibly lose it all in St63 when other better options exist all over PP. You already had a bad experience there before so why repeat it???
If you had read my older reports you will know I now have one quest. I have suggested that if anyone is planning to spend the money on P4P then spend it on honest places and keep them in business and try not to spend money on dishonest places and hopefully they will close down from lack of business.
For ex: if you had 2 stores to choose from (electronic store, food store, anything you like) would you buy from one that will steal from you everytime you went into that store or the one that's honest and won't threaten or cheat you everytime you went in? So who would you rather give your hard earn money to and perhaps have them stay in business?--The choice is yours but my mind is already made up.--IMO
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Main difference is in the # of P4P gals. Thailand have a huge overwhelming # of gals waiting to service you,---- SW, MPs, brothels etc.
Cambo have much much less by comparison. I've heard from others that there were more gals for action in Pattaya alone than the entire country of Cambo.
And yes, fat and rude gals exist everywhere including Cambo.
Only good thing about Cambo is the prices are cheaper if you have decent negotiating skills. If you have no skills then prices are about even.
PT[/QUOTE]So what do I pay for ST and LT? And can you recommend a good report for me with the art of bargin?
I tought Cambo was 10 times better than Thailand.
[quote=ynervalt garr]so what do i pay for st and lt? and can you recommend a good report for me with the art of bargin?
i tought cambo was 10 times better than thailand.[/quote]
ok mate, lets me answer this.
10x better???-no mate, i bin both place and no wayz khmerland better, cheaper buts no better.
yous forget most khmer places has no infrastructure mate, no real roads, no local transport (besides all them local moto-dopes) etc.
also mores to choose from thai ladies.
st= $3 if yous speak them khmer or viet lingo
$5-7 startin price for all us mates without them lingo skills
$7-10= if goes with motodope or driver as needs to cover them commissions extra cost
lt=$15-20 buts never over 20-25 or yous gettin raped.
dunn think can teach yous neg. skills as me not with you. buts easy to learn, since yous now know them prices what they sez not right then turn and walk--if they dunn chase after yous then just move on to zee other place.
pirate1
[QUOTE=Pirate1]Ok mate, lets me answer this.
Buts easy to learn, since yous now know them prices what they sez not right then turn and walk--if they dunn chase after yous then just move on to zee other place.
pirate1[/QUOTE]
Someone beat me to it.
Only way to be a good negotiator is by knowing the correct prices and know when to walk away from it when you are being scammed. The list given to you by Pirate1 is fairly accurate as they are well within the range I paid myself. Also many others have posted their experiences and prices they paid so also use them as a guide.
PT
If you get a girl to lower her price, she may get upset about this and give you a bad service, and why not pay the above price for a girl, she's been getting a couple of dollars untill a barang turns up and she gets a nice $20, you made her day.
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]... and know when to walk away from it when you are being scammed. [/QUOTE]
Just to reiterate PT's advice.
The walking away part is absolutely crucial. It's a difficult concept for the western shopper but is standard practice in Asia. Shop like a local, pay like a local (well not quite but you will get a better deal!).
[QUOTE=Pirate1]
ST= $3 if yous speak them khmer or viet lingo
$5-7 startin price for all us mates without them lingo skills
$7-10= if goes with motodope or driver as needs to cover them commissions extra cost
pirate1[/QUOTE]
Just read this again and want to clarify that the ST price list by Pirate1 are prices mostly for the local brothel scene.
The specialty BJ bars and places like LeCyree, Mikado, etc . and hostess bar places that caters to farangs are more costly.
PT
[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]Just read this again and want to clarify that the ST price list by Pirate1 are prices mostly for the local brothel scene.
The specialty BJ bars and places like LeCyree, Mikado, etc . and hostess bar places that caters to farangs are more costly.
PT[/QUOTE]
Thanks mate,
Thatz what me intend to sez but me forget to add this point. Me figure the mates here already smarts nuff to figure this out but maybe not every mate will.
pirate1
in praise of 63 street.....
quote:
"i sounds to me like some people here are deluding themselves when mongering in poor countries. the girls at the st. 63 brothels are not there by choice. they have all been sold by parents or were tricked in some way or another. the place they take you is the 2nd-3rd floor with the crappy rooms. the 4th floor is where they [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]/beat the girls (i know). 6 months ago there was even a scared chinese girl who only spoke mandarin. imported from somewhere but sucks for her since she needs to know khmer or viet to get around. the khmer price is 5-8000 riel which is about 1. 25. 2. 00 to screw the girls but in pp central it may be a little more. i pay $5 but at times i've paid less since i'm viet kieu and speak the local chinese dialect as well."
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dear gentlemen,
if someone doesn't want to go to st63 that's fine. no great loss for us. in fact the owners there no like "farang" because they are soon inevitably followed by their ol'mumma from home and their joints get closed down. please remember again k11. it was a world-class fuck-joint on the outskirts on p.pen, with very few scams. it was not closed by the pressure from cambodian nationals. then from where?
as for most of us, mentioning of "beaten women" will not keep us away from there, in fact many of us will buy a ticket and enjoy the show. we are not cold hearted but rather just free from "feminist brainwashing".
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discipline is good for all...
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i am quite sure that women do not get raped there but merely "disciplined". the bosses have a business to run. they look after many employees. if some do not behave, no matter how sad the task is, they must correct the behaviour otherwise the whole organisation falls apart and everyone loses their bread and income.
remember when you were disciplined in the army by your superior. it wasn't because he was evil. and when your papa smacked you it wasn't because he was evil. it was all to make you a better person and teach you respect, to keep the joint under control. imagine if a place gets bad reputation for disrespectful girls, khmer men (99% of cusomers are khmer) will not go there. it might come as a surprise to you, but they still expect respect from women. and no, not respect for each one as heroes but respect for khmer men as a class.
and they get it. see above. as a result, everyone is happy and there are many subservient women. hey, isn't this the very reason why we flock here? keep preaching about "beating" and other shite. at st.63 they are at least well disciplined which you cannot say about the girls in farang bars. as a plus, many of them are much more beautiful than the spoilt female staff at the farang bars (avoid at all costs).i personally saw one woman being beaten (like blue and green) but i did not find it offensive. i am sure it was all for reason and i regret to intrude on them because it distracted the guy. otherwise she would have got more. you don't have to sound like a broken record of american feminist brainwashing.
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not the "feminist definition" of.....
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things are still different and here and they don't scream [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] just because you did not great every female with a loud and cheerful "good morning" while going to work in the office. i repeat, this is why we flock here year after year. for fresh air from the suffocation of "man-hating brainwashing". do you want to come find pussy in another "little america"? you won't find any more than at home. that is a zero, isn't it?
btw, don't limit yourselves to st.63. there are also good brothels in st154, 130, 136, 144 plus the alleys between them. plus out in the dark alleys of suburban p.pen (but you need a local to go that way). i have been there several times and experienced very little hassle. upon recommendations from this forum now i always put the wallet under the pillow and not carry more than $30. but that's enough for 4-5 pops. most often get good service, sometimes even exceptional.
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we all win......
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i have to emphasize that please try to think "asian". don't come as a "hero". we are all heroes here as long as we cooperate. we all win because the women don't walk all over us like they do in the us, europe, etc. what matters is how great respect "all men" get and not the individual heroes. to get good service is to please the boss.
talk, chat with them, even tip them with gifts. when the "meat" sees that you are good with the boss it means that you will get good service. same as in thailand, china or indonesia.
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please the boss
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some bosses speak some thai. others only khmer. none english as far as i know. but speaking thai you are only a small step from khmer which is a lot easier to speak (although trickier to write but it just makes it more fun). there is a great scene out there, apart from the miserable, feminist infected "farang" places.
and if you are still not happy, the immensely numerous and fun brothels of sihanukville, kampot, kratie, battambang, etc are just a few hours busride away.
for related article please follow link to "pattaya section" of the forum:
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Dear Asshole,
We do want to go to St.63 (that's why we went). We just don't want to get ripped off and patronise businesses that promote theft and violence against men.
In addition to your list of alternative streets (thank you very much!) I discovered that St. 70 has some "massage" places for $5/pop. Also, that riverside street (Sisowath) has them just south of the bridge. They are open early and that's where I go for breakfast now.
Also, Asshole, let me use this opportunity to say that I appreciate your informative posts very much, even though we disagree on some issues. Do you know where I can find a barber/bj place? One that would actually cut my hair too.
[QUOTE=That Asshole]In praise of 63 Street.....
Some bosses speak some Thai. Others only Khmer. None English as far as I know. :
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Hey mate AH,
glad ye contribute to me board here,
me read ye older post and me impressed by ye reports--good indeed.
But me must sez me dunn condon praise of St 63 places cause almost everywherez me went me got scam, threaten, cheat on visit so never con relax in zee places. If me wantz to spend money and get me willie up without zee hazzles. then can be dunn in zee area. All from me own visit from area brothels.
pirate1
[QUOTE=Traffic777]
Also, that riverside street (Sisowath) has them just south of the bridge. They are open early and that's where I go for breakfast now.[/QUOTE]That's great news, I was unaware of this, care to be more specific with directions, best time to go, did you walk there, Khmer or Viet girls? maybe a short trip report to the area.If you can spare the time for one.
Anyone else know about this?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Gohan39]That's great news, I was unaware of this, care to be more specific with directions, best time to go, did you walk there, Khmer or Viet girls? maybe a short trip report to the area.If you can spare the time for one.
Anyone else know about this?
Thanks[/QUOTE]The other side of Street 70 also has $5 brothels, as you drive down this street you will see the ladys sitting outside there huts waiting for customers, street 70 is just past the french embassy on top of the lake when you look at a Phnom Penh map.
Its mixed khmer and viet,s and they are there from the afternoon to night, its a short time place just doing BJ`s mainly.
I would seriously recommend if your travelling to Cambodia for the first time that you read all of phantom tigers reports. His reports are always honest and very informative. We have been several times now and have always had good times at Sophies, Cyrcee, Martinis etc, weve never felt ripped off, we do stay away from st 63 and because of the warnings we certainly won't go now, on our next trip we are going to also include mikados will let you know how we get on.
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I applaud your interesting report, as always, Humble Turd. We all miss K11 terribly, just as we miss the Beach Road and the other great dominos which have fallen. However I would like to take issue with just one point:
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Discipline is good for all...
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As a result, everyone is happy and there are many subservient women.
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Regarding discipline - of course that is only recieved by those in a socially inferior position, not by 'everyone'. And of course everyone is not happy - oppression benefits someone, in this case you and I, and he who benefits is pleased. However it is rather absurd to suggest that the oppressed person feels 'happy' about it. I like your political analysis, except for this logical inconsistency. A more honest approach would be.. oh I don't know, a bit more Hobbesian?
Last comment: I have never found the service in any brothel setting, in Cambodia or Thailand, not even at K11, to be even 10% the quality of service I have gotten on the Beach Road. I wonder why?
What has happened to Beach Road (in Pattaya?)? I haven't been there for a year.
well, several days into my 2nd visit in one month to p-pehn, having visited sharkees, martini's, le cyrcee (ahh. yes pirate, the short one with the great breasts), mikado (another small one, ahkun, who won me over with her beautiful handwritting, tiny frame, ok (but smiling) face. super quiet, not sure if worth it. omigod she turned into a greedy little moaner who wanted to cum first! ) and yes even sophies (had to get very drunk for that! )
but i missed out on the k-11 days and wanted something more local. i finally took up a moto driver on some unknown (to me) places. he drove me to sotheros, just south of sihanouk blvd, where the road angles a bit and there is a row of typical mid-rise asian housing. girls waiting outside. went to dude-san, said i wanted a younger girl, making it very clear if he brought me anyone **** i would walk out and call the police. he said i have girl and she speaks english! i waited in a little room on the first floor, just a bed, a toilet/shower and room to turn around. a locals place. girls came to the door just to check me out i think, one sort of snorted or huffed-hilarious, which was good 'cuz i kept waiting for a knock and cops to show up. yea, i was scared. and then he brought her.
she was funny, she was pretty, she was 18 and a day (i checked id) she did a wonderful, shy bj, we fucked, we laughed and i came back the next night with a better tip, a pretty dress and waited. and waited. finally she shows! even though i told her i would be back at 7: 00 the next day, she was at her moms sleeping! the dude-sans' 'call woke her up! i can't wait to see her again so i can arrange a day time rendezvous and meet her so she can keep all the money. (i paid $20 plus 2. 50 for the room, still a beginner and not that tough a negotiator and besides when i propped her up on my cock in front of the mirror it was money well spent! )
and her name. was jenny. as i drove away she was showing a girlfriend the dress a few doors down, away from the brothel. so cute.
there's definitely a series of brothels on this block. good luck to all.
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thnaks for your report.
may you tell us if it's possible ta take these girls out for 2-3 days?
are the hygien conditions goods in these places?
[quote=mountain peep]well, several days into my 2nd visit in one month to p-pehn, having visited sharkees, martini's, le cyrcee (ahh. yes pirate, the short one with the great breasts), mikado (another small one, ahkun, who won me over with her beautiful handwritting, tiny frame, ok (but smiling) face. super quiet, not sure if worth it. omigod she turned into a greedy little moaner who wanted to cum first! ) and yes even sophies (had to get very drunk for that! )
but i missed out on the k-11 days and wanted something more local. i finally took up a moto driver on some unknown (to me) places. he drove me to sotheros, just south of sihanouk blvd, where the road angles a bit and there is a row of typical mid-rise asian housing. girls waiting outside. went to dude-san, said i wanted a younger girl, making it very clear if he brought me anyone **** i would walk out and call the police. he said i have girl and she speaks english! i waited in a little room on the first floor, just a bed, a toilet/shower and room to turn around. a locals place. girls came to the door just to check me out i think, one sort of snorted or huffed-hilarious, which was good 'cuz i kept waiting for a knock and cops to show up. yea, i was scared. and then he brought her.
she was funny, she was pretty, she was 18 and a day (i checked id) she did a wonderful, shy bj, we fucked, we laughed and i came back the next night with a better tip, a pretty dress and waited. and waited. finally she shows! even though i told her i would be back at 7: 00 the next day, she was at her moms sleeping! the dude-sans' 'call woke her up! i can't wait to see her again so i can arrange a day time rendezvous and meet her so she can keep all the money. (i paid $20 plus 2. 50 for the room, still a beginner and not that tough a negotiator and besides when i propped her up on my cock in front of the mirror it was money well spent! )
and her name. was jenny. as i drove away she was showing a girlfriend the dress a few doors down, away from the brothel. so cute.
there's definitely a series of brothels on this block. good luck to all.
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I have no idea if you can take 'em out. I seriously think this gal lived in the comples with her mother or family. I think she was paid very little, thus I hope to be able to find her again and meet her on our own.
Bring your own bed sheet!
Simple room, not too bad. But I've been to remote China and I am used to asian standards. My own room is usually never that hot, as I am but a poor waiter!
Yep, well read and cheap-that's me!
mountain peep, please be careful in future threatening our helpful pimp-gangsters with 'calling the police'. by rights they should have given you a good beating, if that was actually what you said.
please also note, regarding price, that $5 is the real whitey price, while the locals pay i think a dollar or three. ten dollars is the normal rip-off price when your moto gets a commision. how you got reamed for $22.50 i don't know - that's a lot of money.
lastly, one should never expect a prostitute in a brothel to meet one at a requested time. in the first place, even if you are a shocking over-payer such as yourself, you represent only a tiny fraction of her daily take. in the second, she's probably heard a million guys saying 'oh i'll be back', and very few actually ever come back at the stated time.
cool. not really sure if i did say i would call police, i just somehow made it very clear i did not want anyone **** without any anger at all. if i mentioned police it would have been with a smile. either way, duly noted, will avoid it. i felt he was he was very nice guy actually. professional, friendly. when i noticed an infected, closed cut on her leg i wrote instructions down for her, showed her how to wash it, even drew the symbol for pharmacy and said to show it there and get it fixed. i showed him it, asked him to make sure it was looked after and i believe he showed an interest. said i would be back "next year" and hoped to see him and hopefully her and that i hoped the infection would be healed. i would have gotten something for her myself, but it was my last night and i left on a minibus at 6: 30 a. m for thailand. (that was a trip- bus bottomed out, started leaking oil, and we waited an hour or so for new rides-amazing how well cell phones work in the middle of nowhere in asia, but drop outs still occur all over the states! )
thanks opebo.
Phnom Penh is always a blur for me. I like it because it is compact, prices are low, and you can get round a number of places for a quick search. And of course there is Sophies.
I stayed at the Golden Gate hotel, on Str 278 off Str 51. There are two standards, for $15 per night you get a bare bones room, very basic. In the upmarket hotel, for $30 per night, you get a good sized room, breakfast and laundry included. Laundry is same day service if you get it outside your room by 12.
I had three days there of business, a bit of group exercise, and some personal stuff.
On my first night, I had gotten in latish, so I headed off to Walkabout to check what was available. A fair selection of girls, but most looked pretty bored. I picked one, pretty face, reasonable conversation. Bought her a couple of drinks, and a snack – she was hungry. I asked her price for all night to 9 am, and she giggled at $1000, I sagged, so she asked $100, I said bullshit, $15. We haggled, she wanted $50, then $30. I eventually went up to $20. When we got to the hotel room, she was a dead loss. She had one kid, and it had knocked her round quite a bit. When we were in bed she started again trying to get the price up to $30. I got sick of it, said $20, or she could leave. She stayed. But she was a dead loss. Name of Srey On, phone 012329521. She has a distinctive gap between her front teeth. Pretty, square face, hair below her shoulder, a bit heavier than most, wider hips. Give her a wide berth.
I have a preference formost evenings. Go tyo Sophies early, get the rocks off with a quick bbbj fro $10, the see what the evening has to offer. This has the advantage of being very relaxed, and there is no pressure to find a fuck.
Sophies is at the intersection of Str 53 and Str 118. It has not had any maintenance since I was there two years ago, and is as sleazy as ever. The bar is primitive. You go up a flight of filthy stairs, and knock on a locked door. One of the girls will let you in. When you sit on a bar stool, you will be surrounded by a bevy of young women. None of them wear panties, so their cunts are open for your exploration. I like to take my time at the bar, with a beer, and my choice of girl straddled across my crutch, so that I can give her a good fingering and check if she is getting wet. Surprisingly, most of the girls do. Within a minute of sitting down, your cock will be out, with a pair of young lips wrapped around it. There will be plenty of others waiting to share your prick around. If you want more privacy, you can have a room, cost is $10 all up, room and girl, anything goes, boom boom, yum yum, condom provided. There seems to be no time limit, just how hurried the girl is. Mine were prepared to take their time, and I was happy for a cuddle and a chat after I had blown the bolt. Whatever the conditions and the sleaze, the girls are expert at yum yum, like human vacuum cleaners. Of the $10, the girl gets $5. A tip of a dollar or two is well received. Drinks cost $2 each, yours and girls.
For the first visit, I got a young girl, 20 years old, called Otan or Otah. Perfect body, slim, decent sized breasts, very sensitive to her nipples and her clit. She was pretty wet as I fingered her clit at the bar. We went to a room, and I said I would give her a licking, so she went off and washed her pussy. She was surprised and very happy that she had a good orgasm, I felt that she had not experienced this before. She reciprocated with the best that she could do with bbbj, **** available and very tight. Had my circumstances been different, I would have bought her, and just carried her away with me for ever. What a beauty.
I went back for her the next night but she was not there. The girls said she was in a room long time with a customer. I said that I would wait. But when there was traffic through all the rooms, it was obvious that this was not the case, I don’t know where she was. So I took another very small sized and very slim. Pretty face and perky attitude. She gave a great bbbj, and her **** was as tight as a fish. We had a nice chat afterwards, she was quite self conscious about her small breasts and big nipples. I told her that they were perfect, and she was pretty happy with that. She said that every day she sent her earnings to her mother, her father was too old to work, three sisters going through school.
Had a good afternoon workout with a bunch of guys, had a few beers, and we ended up at a restaurant about Str 21 just off Hun Sen park. After a great evening, and a few too many beers, I was walking across the park to flag down a moto, when a young woman approached me and struck up a conversation. She was looking for some quick money. I said that I only wanted yum yum long time. She said no. By this time another girl, taller and slimmer, had sidled into view, so the first girl called her over, explained what I wanted, and she agreed. LT till 9 am for $15. My judgment was a bit impaired by the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], but what the heck?
We caught a moto to the hotel, no problem with walk of shame, girl got her gear off, we had a nice shower, and into the pit. She was not too good at bbbj, and kept offering her ****, doggie style. Eventually I conceded, hauled on a glove, and went for it. This happened a couple of times more during the night. All in all, a nice night, not pressured, good price. But next time I need to be a bit less pissed, it affects my judgment.
I stopped in for a quick look at Le Cyrcee, which is quite well known as a bbbj bar. Le Cyrcee is at #13, Str 49, just down from Str 130. It is more upmarket than Sophies, clean, well lit. The girls are better at conversation. There are rooms available, total cost is $2 for the room, $15 for the girl, anything goes. I did not try it on my visit after Sophies, so I cannot comment on their expertise.
I did not get a chance to check out Mikado, but it is in the same block as Le Cyrcee, opposite side, on the corner. Looked higher class from the outside.
I tried to find DV8 on Str 108, but it was not there. It is on Str 148, just in from Sisowath Quay. A nice, small bar downstairs, with lots of girls, probably 20 or so, and a pool table and open balcony upstairs. I was too buggered to try any of the girls. Two came over and we had a nice chat on the balcony, but nothing more.
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[QUOTE=Gangles]Phnom Penh is always a blur for me. I like it because it is compact, prices are low, and you can get round a number of places for a quick search. And of course there is Sophies
On my first night, I had gotten in latish, so I headed off to Walkabout to check what was available. A fair selection of girls, but most looked pretty bored. I picked one, pretty face, reasonable conversation. Bought her a couple of drinks, and a snack – she was hungry. I asked her price for all night to 9 am, and she giggled at $1000, I sagged, so she asked $100, I said bullshit, $15. We haggled, she wanted $50, then $30. I eventually went up to $20. When we got to the hotel room, she was a dead loss. She had one kid, and it had knocked her round quite a bit. When we were in bed she started again trying to get the price up to $30. I got sick of it, said $20, or she could leave. She stayed. But she was a dead loss. Name of Srey On, phone 012329521. She has a distinctive gap between her front teeth. Pretty, square face, hair below her shoulder, a bit heavier than most, wider hips. Give her a wide berth.[/QUOTE]A girl asking for $1000, I would have not given her the time of day, you should have walk away there, she still tryed to get you to up your price to $30 in your Hotel room, I am sorry but you must be wearing a T shirt that says, "I am easy"
[quote]but i missed out on the k-11 days and wanted something more local. i finally took up a moto driver on some unknown (to me) places. he drove me to sotheros, just south of sihanouk blvd, where the road angles a bit and there is a row of typical mid-rise asian housing. girls waiting outside. went to dude-san, said i wanted a younger girl, making it very clear if he brought me anyone **** i would walk out and call the police. he said i have girl and she speaks english! i waited in a little room on the first floor, just a bed, a toilet/shower and room to turn around. a locals place. girls came to the door just to check me out i think, one sort of snorted or huffed-hilarious, which was good 'cuz i kept waiting for a knock and cops to show up. yea, i was scared. and then he brought her.
[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/quote]this place is near the royal palace, its mainly a locals brothel of a night time. in the daytime a place were moto`s take you to get a commission, if you want an 18, 19, 20 year old then you put your order in, then come back in the early evening, as the girls do a 9 to 5 job or at university, [extra money on the side]
Speaking of this. ("money on the side..university students")
Has anyone have any luck with the girls hanging out near campus? As I was walking back from the lake one early evening 2 girls we're between classes outside in the steet park. They gave me a look but I wimped out and didn't stop to chat. I figure the easiest thing to do is to ask them to dinner &/or Heart of Darkness after class.
Just got this PM from pirate1, (believe he also PM this message to others on this board)
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partial reply from Pirate1:
I posted some additional reports about places and ladies but seems some other mongers on other threads (LOS, China etc.) were complaining about all my writing not "in english", complain to Jackson ? and many of my reports were deleted. I have fun writing in my"pirate" style as its therapy and enjoyment for me but if I keep posting and others complain and Jackson delete, well, seems I'm not going to post much anymore. If I can't enjoy myself then so be it.
pirate1 out.
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I do hope it's not the end of pirate's posting as I really enjoyed his reports and I truly believe he was one of the better posters on this forum. Seems like many don't agree but I happen to also enjoy his wacky writing style and humor. With such great knowledge I think they should all cut him some slack about his writing style not being in perfect english. He will be greatly missed.---IMO
PT
MyIt does get a bit tiring to read. But who cares.
My only real problem is he never goes "Arrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!"
I seem to recall that Pirate claimed he could write English as well as any of us and that what we see is his 'writing style'. I would object to anyone's post being rejected because of an inability to write good English but can appreciate objections to atempts at writing in a 'funny'style.
It does seem that Pirate's presence on this forum is entirely in his own hands and it is his choice not to post here in plain English.
Just my two-penneth worth.
Hawk
Well, it is English. It's not any language other than English. It's not the queen's English, but English it is. We're not deleting the posts of the Singapore guys or others whose English is pretty bad and sometimes almost indecipherable. It seems obvious that it's meant in good fun. I don't understand people who get uptight about it.
Who complained?
Hi Guys,
I am planning my first trip to Phnom Penh.
I really appriciate if you can advice me ona good hotel to stay in.
I am looking for hotel in good location, nice view is a plus.
It should be safe, clean, (a safe box in the room is good) and also internet access in the room (am I asking too much?
And most important - girl friendly. Also if the hotel has is own fish bowl place it will be very very nice, since it will always give me the default option if I am too tired to look around.
Really appriciate your help and I promise to send reports and photos as soon as I return.
BTW, can a visa be issued at the airport once I arrive?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Gilgil A]Hi Guys,
I am planning my first trip to Phnom Penh.
I really appriciate if you can advice me ona good hotel to stay in.[/QUOTE]Hi Gilgil,
My personal preference, at the moment, is The Flamingo Hotel which meets all your criteria except the fishbowl. I think only one hotel ticks that box and I have never stayed there so will leave it to someone else to offer input.
The Flamingo has WiFi access in all rooms but it seems to get weak the higher you go. Up to floor two (third actual level) still has good signal and good response.
The roof-top bar is an absolute sanctuary, with pleasant breezes, as the sun starts to sink and you need to have refreshing beer before starting out on the serious business.
Visa can still be obtained on arrival at the main airports and, if you're arriving at Phnom Penh, it is worthwhile trying to be at the front of the queue as the wait can otherwise be quite infuriating.
Hawk
[QUOTE=Wendella]Well, it is English. It's not any language other than English. It's not the queen's English, but English it is. We're not deleting the posts of the Singapore guys or others whose English is pretty bad and sometimes almost indecipherable. It seems obvious that it's meant in good fun. I don't understand people who get uptight about it.
Who complained?[/QUOTE]-------------------------------------------------------
[QUOTE=Petemcc]Pirate, I'm not being pompous, but would you mind posting in English please?[/QUOTE]Above is an example of one. I also get these complaints from others from the China, and other Asian threads etc. Funny thing is almost none of the complainers had ever contributed any useful information to the Cambodian thread, so go figure. Many of the comments/complaints are also sent to me via PM. Sometimes I spend more time defending myself over my intentional "wacky pirated english style" that it's no longer fun anymore. Remember that when I was in-country I actually acted a bit like a pirate because it's my alter-ego. So, I have more fun writing in this style simply because the thoughts and feelings comes out exactly as I remembered them when I was a pirate.
And yes, I did say "Aarrg" when I was in Cambodia. The only thing I couldn't do was get a parrot to sit on my shoulders.
As all can see, I am quite literate and know the writing language well enough.
I have to be as I use to be an instructor and dealt with many reports during my lifetime.
If you haven't notice, I am NOT having a fun time writing in this common english you are all endeared to do since childhood. I prefer my own "fun" style, and yes, it's in English (as far as I know, I haven't typed in any Spanish or French or Thai words yet).
Like I said, if I can't have fun posting then why bother.
Pirate1 out.
[QUOTE=Pirate1]Like I said, if I can't have fun posting then why bother.[/QUOTE][blue]Hi Pirate1,
Here's the answer to your question: You may be having "fun" writing your reports in some sort of ancient abandoned dialect, but none of us are having any fun trying to read them.
Now here's my question to you:
Why would any of us, your intended audience, "bother" to read your reports if they're impossible to understand?
Anyway, I accept that you're going to write your reports anyway that you want, so from now on I will try to translate them so that everybody else can read them.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
I enjoyed Pirate's posts. To me, the spirit seemed playful. I didn't find them particularly difficult to understand, and noticed he was one of the more informative posters. I don't think I'm the only person who enjoyed his posts, and wasn't happy to see how this worked out.
[QUOTE=Admin][blue]none of us are having any fun trying to read them.
[/blue][/QUOTE]I'm having a lot of fun reading them.
From some of the replies, others are too.
So this statement appears false.
[QUOTE=Admin][blue]
Now here's my question to you:
Why would any of us, your intended audience, "bother" to read your reports if they're impossible to understand?
[/blue][/QUOTE]They are written phonetically, so they are in fact very easy for me to read and understand and I have read all of Pirate1's posts. I like to read them.
[QUOTE=Wendella]I enjoyed Pirate's posts. To me, the spirit seemed playful. I didn't find them particularly difficult to understand, and noticed he was one of the more informative posters. I don't think I'm the only person who enjoyed his posts, and wasn't happy to see how this worked out.[/QUOTE]I completely agree! I found the posts fun to decipher; they're quite possible to understand.
[QUOTE=Jackson]... Anyway, I accept that you're going to write your reports anyway that you want, so from now on I will try to translate them so that everybody else can read them.
Thanks,
Jackson[/QUOTE]With all respect I hope Jackson changes his mind. If he feels he can understand them well enough to translate them, why underestimate other members? Why deprive at least some members a lot o fun? I fear that if the Pirate dialect is translated Pirate is out for good and his informatin will be greately missed.
I don't feel a strong need to weigh in one way or the other on the dispute over Pirate's writing style but I do appreciate the time Jackson is willing to spend translating. I don't think this solution is quite up there with Solomen's but it seems reasonable in light of the position a spectrum of readers has put Jackson in.
In response to Gilgil A's query about a place to stay I agree that Flamingo would be a good choice and can recommend strongly AGAINST the Paragon. While I enjoyed the balcony over looking the river and the help of the staff when a SW tried to steal my camera on the way out after a very unsatisfactory blowjob, the construction next door makes it impossible to sleep or enjoy the room after 7 am.
As the summer weather reduces the influx of visitors you might be able to get into California2 where Jim is a great help to first time visitors.
My thanks to Jackson from the AF
Guys,
No complaints here. I feel that as long as everyone posts according to Jackson's rules, then OK by me.
As for Pirate's posts, I did not enjoy them at all so I put him on my ignore list. I did not complain because others may have enjoyed them but I sure did not like trying to decipher them so I just ignore them. To each his own.
Cheers to all.....you too Pirate 1
Tony
[QUOTE=Correspondent]I'm having a lot of fun reading them.
From some of the replies, others are too.
So this statement appears false.
They are written phonetically, so they are in fact very easy for me to read and understand and I have read all of Pirate1's posts. I like to read them.[/QUOTE]
Although I don't like to enter into a debate on this forum, I ABSOLUTELY agree with the above post.
Many have also PM me saying the same thing. They all had fun "reading" all his enjoyable posts. Many have also said they had benefited from his experiences and posts. Isn't that what this forum was intended to do in the 1st place?
No offense but, what's with the need for a translation of his posts? I never had a problem reading any of them as many others have notice they are phonetically written in English and not some real foreign language. Remember: think like a pirate and "Ye shall understand him".
Choose to ignore Pirate's post if you like (putting him on your ignore list is your own choice--afterall it's a free country) but you will be missing out on very important mongering information and advise. I would say to give him some slack and let him have his fun writing so he could contribute more informative information for the rest of us.----IMO
BTW: Almost forgot to mention that many had also PM me thanking not only me but also Pirate1 for his many posts and advise. It kept many newbies to Cambodia safe from physical harm and they avoided alot of the scams that he had experienced--for that, I'd say "job well done".
Bottom line: Please guys, let's all "Lighten up" and let all the people who like reading Pirate1 posting continue to do so. As far as I know, pirate have never posted any false/bad information and have always helped anyone who had a question. Unlike many others on this forum who I noticed only whine and complain to increase their post counts and never truly contributed any useful information in the pursuit of our hobby.
Perhaps Jackson could crack down on this issue instead.
Jackson, I do know it's all in good intentions and I do appreciate all your efforts in regulating this board. I've come across many, many bad posts that's simply NOT in English (remembered a few in French and one in Jap or was it Chinese?) before they were deleted. Many others were just written in sloppy stupid English that absolutely everyone couldn't understand it. What's worst was the fact that they had absolutely no useful contents for anyone to learn from, just real stupid questions from idiots that no one understood.
Pirate1 is not in the same category as the above. (Most) of us actually enjoy his work and he had contributed alot of useful information in his short career here. I truly don't think he is doing this to spike you. He is just trying to have fun and also provide great information to all of us at the same time, it's something that's not easy to do.
-----again IMO
PT
I think that the problem isn't Pirate's reports specifically. It's that once you start to loosen the established standards, where do you stop.
Reading Pirate's unusually styled reports is not so difficult. But if very many posters started to use their own distinct "style", it would soon grow very tedious indeed.
For this reason I have to agree with Jackson's decision to censor Pirate.
I truly hope he continues to participate in the forum using his obviously excellent standard English.
[QUOTE=Naughty]I think that the problem isn't Pirate's reports specifically. It's that once you start to loosen the established standards, where do you stop.
Reading Pirate's unusually styled reports is not so difficult. But if very many posters started to use their own distinct "style", it would soon grow very tedious indeed.
For this reason I have to agree with Jackson's decision to censor Pirate.
I truly hope he continues to participate in the forum using his obviously excellent standard English.[/QUOTE]
Yes you hit the nail because this forum has certain standards to adhere to. Jackson is a stickler when it comes to proper grammer and punctuation. Pirate is delibertly going against the grain. Its not like he can write in perfectly good english unlike other non-english writers that try their best to eke out a report. The first few times he posted were a novelty but now it is getting old.
Enough of this debate. Why not take this controversy to the membership by conducting a poll!?
The writer's style is not clever, it's irritating. The content is not particularly informative or new either. Avoiding dangerous situations and rip-offs anywhere is a matter of common sense. Specific locations, prices, girls names, etc. are what the forum needs, not a writer's lame attempt to be colorful. Believe me, you will rub shoulders with enough colorful characters once you arrive. And usually avoid them.
My two riels.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi Gilgil,
My personal preference, at the moment, is The Flamingo Hotel which meets all your criteria except the fishbowl. I think only one hotel ticks that box and I have never stayed there so will leave it to someone else to offer input.
The Flamingo has WiFi access in all rooms but it seems to get weak the higher you go. Up to floor two (third actual level) still has good signal and good response.
The roof-top bar is an absolute sanctuary, with pleasant breezes, as the sun starts to sink and you need to have refreshing beer before starting out on the serious business.
Visa can still be obtained on arrival at the main airports and, if you're arriving at Phnom Penh, it is worthwhile trying to be at the front of the queue as the wait can otherwise be quite infuriating.
Hawk[/QUOTE]It's the only one I stay at for now, and I've stayed at quite a few. The Scandia is nice too, with a small pool and very laid back, near Independence monument, it's on the web. Owner and guests very cool.
[QUOTE=Orygunduk]It's the only one I stay at for now, and I've stayed at quite a few. The Scandia is nice too, with a small pool and very laid back, near Independence monument, it's on the web. Owner and guests very cool.[/QUOTE]Hi Orygunduk,
I used to stay at the Scandic, which was renamed as Scandinavian after some legal wrangle, but I am assuming it is the one you are referring to. It was always such a fantastic oasis in Phnom Penh.
It was sold in the latter part of last year and, though I only visited for a beer on my last visit, seemed to have lost all of the qualities that drew me to it. As well as that the prices had been increased to a level that I cannot justify for Phnom Penh (I think it was up to $50).
I am sure that we all look for different qualities in a hotel but it might be worth anyone making some enquires before going for this old favorite.
Hawk
[QUOTE=Orygunduk] The content is not particularly informative or new either. Avoiding dangerous situations and rip-offs anywhere is a matter of common sense.
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Thanks for reminding me... it was Pirate who posted about getting threatened by guys with pipes at one of the places on Street 63, right after getting robbed in the room. I was just reminded by Orygunduk here who thinks that kind of information isn't important. Well, of course I disagree. I got taken to one of those places last year, and sure enough had the mystery hands appear through a crack in the door -- no threats, I was lucky. But that kind of post is exactly the most vital kind of information that's up here. I guess that post got deleted though. By the way, common sense had nothing to do with being in one of those: I'd been to those places before and it wasn't like that in the past.
What I'm put off by are the obnoxious flamers, the ones who post just to ridicule or belittle (usually attacking newbies). Now there's a rule that is explicitly spelled out in the forum rules, but it doesn't seem to get enforced. A pirate is a breath of fresh air next to guys like those.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi Orygunduk,
I used to stay at the Scandic, which was renamed as Scandinavian after some legal wrangle, but I am assuming it is the one you are referring to. It was always such a fantastic oasis in Phnom Penh.
It was sold in the latter part of last year and, though I only visited for a beer on my last visit, seemed to have lost all of the qualities that drew me to it. As well as that the prices had been increased to a level that I cannot justify for Phnom Penh (I think it was up to $50).
I am sure that we all look for different qualities in a hotel but it might be worth anyone making some enquires before going for this old favorite.
Hawk[/QUOTE]Holy Shit Batman, it sure ain't worth that! Thanks.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]
I used to stay at the Scandic... think it was up to $50.
Hawk[/QUOTE]
I stayed at the Scandic for a fortnight 18 months ago - it was great, nice and quiet, good food (I seem to remember the Swedish meatballs were very good) etc etc. $50 is taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] though. I am pretty sure I paid about $25 (it could have been as high as $35, but definitely no more than that).
I was not aware of any fishbowls in P-Pehn, or elsewhere in Cambodia.
I am visiting there soon and would love to know about them!
Thanks!
I too, stayed at the Scandic hotel on my first visit to PP. The best things about the place was the bar and the food, both were fantastic. The room I stayed in was on the ground floor, next to the car park. Every time a moto drove in it sounded like it was in my room. The room was very old and very basic. Poor bathroom and very noisy aircon that was not cold. The pool was small with no shade. I did not get a free p/you from the airport as agreed when I booked. Would not stay again or recommend this place.
[QUOTE=Blunderer]I stayed at the Scandic for a fortnight 18 months ago - it was great, nice and quiet, good food (I seem to remember the Swedish meatballs were very good) etc etc. $50 is taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] though. I am pretty sure I paid about $25 (it could have been as high as $35, but definitely no more than that).[/QUOTE]Hi Blunderer,
just checked their website and the room rates now start at $30 and go up to $55 for the "Double Royal with Private balcony". If you want internet access then they charge extra (though it does not say how much).
Now seems to be aimed at the 'upmarket' tourist rather than the mongerer. I stayed there about 15 times in the last 7 years and enjoyed just about every moment there.
The decor is now more stylish and the web site reflects the new image "http://www.scandinavia-hotel-cambodia.com/".
If they were to supply dancing girls and a nice warm, soft living bed warmer then I might be tempted!
Hawk
Well the web site certainly looks attractive. I was going to stay at the FCC since I have a lot of lead time to book. In fact the FCC responded to my letter, saying no problem with joiners. However, would appreciate comments from those of you who could compare the two. Cost is not an issue. Wont be there until Dec., but do like to get organized well in advance. So for a senior aged, adventurous traveler, looking to be comfortable...which one gets the nod?
Just a few lines of my experiences on a brief side trip to Cambodia a few months ago. Spent most of my days in Thailand as usual but Cambodia is an interesting country. Not a place to spend a long time. 10 days was sufficient for me. Flew to SR, then bus to PP and Sihannoukville and back to PP, very easy and convenient.
Checked out Martini’s but very few people there and didn’t like the ambience so left for Sharky’s. More my kind of place, a normal bar with freelance girls. Rejected two before I took a slim and cute 24 year old Khmer back to the hotel. Very nice and accommodating, but much lower service when back in the room. No BJ and rather dull. Also had an ugly scare from a caesarean operation. Wanted to leave after the first round, which was just as well. Have to negotiate the terms better in the future. Stayed at Flamingo as recommended in the board, and can fully agree. They called from the reception when she left to check if I was ok.
I booked Sovan for a day last month and can guarantee you he is a good guy who certainly knows his way around Cambodia. His taxi is in good shape and is comfortabe, his rates are great and he is a personable guy.
AF
[QUOTE=Xdentx]Well the web site certainly looks attractive. I was going to stay at the FCC since I have a lot of lead time to book. In fact the FCC responded to my letter, saying no problem with joiners. However, would appreciate comments from those of you who could compare the two. Cost is not an issue. Wont be there until Dec., but do like to get organized well in advance. So for a senior aged, adventurous traveler, looking to be comfortable...which one gets the nod?[/QUOTE]If cost isn't an issue, I'd stay at the Cambodiana, very nice along the river. Rooms at Scandia aren't very good, the pool and oasis-like, friendly atmosphere were the main draws. Like I said, I'd stay at the Flamingo.
I wouldn't worry about bringing girls in to any hotel, it's when you don't bring a girl in that you will get funny looks. Only time I ever got a girl refused was when I brought a couple of Martini girls to Golden Gate, turns out quite a few NGO's put their workers up there. Moved out the next day.
I would feel funny bringing girls to FCC, so I never stayed there. Too many non-monger tourists at the restaurant.
Be sure to include a trip to Snooky, I think you'd like it. Nice beach and plenty of girls.
[QUOTE=Gilgil A]Hi Guys,
I am planning my first trip to Phnom Penh.
I really appriciate if you can advice me ona good hotel to stay in.
I am looking for hotel in good location, nice view is a plus.
It should be safe, clean, (a safe box in the room is good) and also internet access in the room (am I asking too much?
And most important - girl friendly. Also if the hotel has is own fish bowl place it will be very very nice, since it will always give me the default option if I am too tired to look around.
Really appriciate your help and I promise to send reports and photos as soon as I return.
BTW, can a visa be issued at the airport once I arrive?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The PARIS HOTEL on Kampuchea Krom (not to be confused with The New Paris Hotel on the same street) has decent, large rooms for $15. My 8th flor room was an end room with a great view of a tree lined, residential boulevard with Boeung Kak Lake (marsh actually) beyond.
There is a reasonably well stocked massage fishbowl on the 3rd floor ofering in room massage for $7 an hour. Additional services are negotiated between you and your selected maiden. They start high, sometimes asking as much as $40 FS, but will usually settle for $20. I am not a particularly tough bargainer so less might be possible. Quality of service varies girl to girl.
Wifi was not available when I stayed there in March.
Kampuchea Krom is a business area with little nightlife aside from several hotel casinos but the ever-present moto drivers out front know every bar and den in Phnom Phen.
They will pick you up at the Airport but now charge for the service.
Tel: 023 880 361 e-mail: [email]paris_hotel@hotmail.com[/email]
I really liked the Flamingo Hotel. Book in advance and the driver will pick you up at the airport. It's not on the river and doesn't have a fishbowl but it is very close to Walkabout and many other clubs/bars in that area. The hotel is very clean and affordable with decent internet access in the lobby. [url]http://www.flamingos.com.kh/[/url]
My favorite Phnom Penh experiences:
Sophie's bar
La Cyrcee Bar
Martini's
Enjoy!
You can't go wrong with Mr Kim at the flamingo,free airport pickup and central location.
Just one problem-usually full.
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]You can't go wrong with Mr Kim at the flamingo,free airport pickup and central location.
Just one problem-usually full.[/QUOTE]There are some security issues at Flamingos; I've had a mobile stolen from my room and a friend had his digital camera stolen from the wardrobe in his room even though he had put a bicycle chain on the doors. Apparantly the thief unscrewed the door hinges.
Mr Kim was apologetic but pointed out that the rooms have signs warning residents to use the lockboxes at the reception desk, so if you do stay there, make sure you use the lockboxes for all your valuables including passports and airline tickets. They do have some that are large enough to hold a notebook computer.
An interesting sidelite re: Passports. The reason stolen ones are a hot commodity is not that they change them to another name, it is that they need the well used looking covers and pages with entry and exit stamps to make a newly made one look more authentic.
[QUOTE=Mai Yao]There are some security issues at Flamingos; I've had a mobile stolen from my room and a friend had his digital camera stolen from the wardrobe in his room even though he had put a bicycle chain on the doors. Apparantly the thief unscrewed the door hinges.........[/QUOTE]Hi Mai Yao,
I know that I am a fan of Flamingos, but I would say that all hotels have a security problem to a certain extent.
I always keep my phone with me and so the only opportunity for theft would be when I have someone in my room. I leave my irreplaceables in the security box and keep no more than a few hundred dollars in my room (but never on full view). Maybe I have been lucky with the guests that have returned with me but most of this is down to common sense.
I have left my camera in room during the day, on bedside table, and have had no problem with general staff. I do try to maintain a rapport with the staff, including the cleaners, and they know that there will be a nice tip at the end of my stay. This does allow me to feel much more relaxed during my stay.
On my last stay I did leave my laptop in the wardrobe, inside a small case, and did feel a little vulnerable. I thought about using a bike chain, and was thinking of doing the same when I return next time. After reading your report, I am not so sure; maybe the chain just draws attention to the contents!!
I have heard guest at the hotel being extremely vocal about how his credit card had been stolen by the staff from under his mattress. This was maintained for a day telling anyone, and everyone, who would listen. When his card turned up, in another of his 'hiding places' he was nowhere near as vocal. The result of this is that people are left believing there is a bigger problem than there actually is.
Hawk
Has anyone purchased any pills in Phnom Penh that have proved to be genuine? It would be good to know the price paid and from where. All input appreciated.
Hawk
I have bought by the Central Market Pharmacies. They were about $4-$5 for a packet. They worked just fine for me !
Planning to drop by Phnom Penh over the next few days. Any bro in town?
The "central market pharmacies" -
The traffic around the central market runs counterclockwise. There is a turn to the left (a corner) which IF you didn't take the turn would take you DIRECTLY to street 51 (Pasteur) it's street 136 See the map in the link - it's right at the BOTTOM of the market in this map.
[url]http://www.yellowpages-cambodia.com/maps/phnompenh/centralmarket/[/url]
The pharmacies are on both sides of the street but the one on the right side (going to street 51) with the boxes of pills in the window was the cheapest place I found. there is a quantity discount, but I didn't figure exactly how much "quantity" there had to be to get "better prices" (either that or they just gave me the "quantity discount" anyway - I did spend $30 or so)
They sell both "apsalis" (cialis generic - about 2X the price as "XXagra") and several "XXagra" versions - XX is the "name" - Kam, Pen, Gen, whatever. They were the lowest cost of the 4 pharms I asked
DO NOT BUY "CHINESE BLUE DEVILS" ABSOLUTELY WORTHLESS!!! I suspect they are cornstarch in blue wrappers. Get the INDIAN product in the box and check the expiration date
Well, I made it to Cambodia about 6 months ago, stayed about 3 days in the shithole named Phnom Penh. Stayed at the Flamingo hotel, which is walking distance from a few bars (not to mention a massage parlor across the street). Anyway, on to the good stuff:
Sophies - tried this out the first night. Directions were spot on, walked up the dirty filthy stairway and knocked on the door at about 6. They let me in, and I was surprised at just how small the bar was. It has one or two couches, and a small bar where about 7 or 8 people can sit down. I take a seat, order a beer, and within seconds my dick is out and 3 ladies are arguing over who gets to suck me off first. This goes on for about 10 minutes, then I choose the best looking one to go back to the room. The other 2 asked for a tip --- 3 dollars. I was like wtf I thought it was only a dollar each (as reported on this forum). Anyway, we go back to the dingy room, turn the lights off and the girl gives me a great bbbj followed by FS - 10 bucks.
Le Cyrcee --- this place is a hell of a lot better than Sophies. I actually found it by accident; walked in about 7 pm, sat down at the bar and had a drink. The bar is a decent size, with stools behind the bar as well and a sitting area in the corner. I was the only guy in there so about 10 ladies were molesting me at the same time. Nice. They each let me feel their breasts (and other parts) while I was drinking a beer. So difficult to choose, but then this hot little Vietnamese girl walked in. I think her name started with an A but I'm not sure. Really big tits and cute. A bit short, but very nice. Walked upstairs and the room was okay, although the ceilings are really low. BBBJ which was just okay at best, then she put an extra big condom on. I mean this thing was HUGE, big enough for a fucking horse! I told her that I actually had my own but she wasn't hearing any of it. She's a really great fuck, though. Great tits. $10 for her, and I think it was $5 for the room. When I walked back down to the bar there were about 15 girls -- and they were all hot. Here's her pic - she's the girl at the very front in red: [url]http://www.bayonpearnik.com/cyrceeclub/index.html[/url]
Sharky's - this place is a pretty cool place to hang out. Not too many lookers, though. A lot of uglies in this place, but if you tell them to fuck off then they'll leave you alone. I started talking to this hot Vietnamese girl, but she was asking $40 for ST. She eventually told me $30, but that's still too much. She finally agreed to bring her friend (who was also hot) over to my place for $30. I waited but the ***** never showed up. Still, a pretty good bar - it also has an outside area to hang out when it's not raining.
Street 63 - Well, one night when I was a bit drunk and horny, I stepped out of a bar and one of the moto drivers asked me "You want beautiful girl to fuck you?" I looked at him and said "Yeah but only Vietnam girl. No Khmer." So he took me to Street 63. Walked up to some building and the lights went on and a bell went off when I walked up. Walked up some stairs and saw about 10 Vietnamese girls sitting around a room. The oldest was about 25, the youngest couldn't have been more than 8 years old. Disgusting. The guy told me "You fuck for $30." But seeing the 8-year old just made me feel sorry for the girls. Walked out as fast as I could and went to bed.
Rose Bar --- I don't think you can fuck any of these girls, but they serve good food and it's the only place I know of where you can get beer lao in the bottle, the greatest beer in all of Asia (IMO). Talked to a few of the girls; they were quite nice but I just don't know what the deal is and didn't want to ask because I liked coming there.
Shanghai bar -- This is right by the Flamingo. Good bar with drinks written in chalk on the menu above the bar. The girls are pretty hot, and talked to one of them for about an hour, but at the end of the night when I told her that I wanted to take her home she wasn't having any of it. "I don't go home with anyone" she said. I was a bit annoyed - well, really annoyed but I guess that'll teach me not to ask what the score is up front. Pretty good bar with outside seating, but only one pool table.
All in all a good trip. I'd say Sharky's is hit and miss, but Le Cyrcee was the highlight for me. Much prettier girls there than the shithole Sophie's.
Hi Sovann,
I was the one you took to Martini, 63th Street etc... and your brother picked me up in Siem Reap. Sorry to hear your business is slow. I think PP can be a very nice place for sexcapades with your service.
I am thinking of going to PP again in a month or so with a few friends. Please explain where one could go to find the best selections of females for ST, LT...and how much it would cost....
You know Cambodia well. What would you recommend a few guys to do to have a fun time with beautiful girls in PP, SV and SR???? Where to stay? Where to eat? Where to hang out? Where to find the prettiest pussies that offer the best services at reasonable prices???
I like the Martini format a lot. Quiet, relaxing, drinking, watching movies outdoors, pretty girls, low prices....I took a few girls from Martini and they were all nice and sweet. The girls there prefer doing a lot of ST to LT. Every city in the world should have a few bars like Martini...
Or how about lining up a few pretty semipro to escort visiting mongers? You can charge a good fee for that service. I would take on a new girl all day everyday so I can have company to go around with, and have sex when I feel like...
Good luck to you.
[QUOTE=Driver SovanMee]Excuse me, where do everybody has gone to? I haven't business is almost one month now. I would like some job to earn money for living. Hope some one will hire me one day or twos in nearer.
Tel: 012 428 007
E-mail: [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
Cheers
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I bought Zeagra 4pcs.(100mg) at the small Pharmacy next to the Walkabout for about 5$. I bought some other pills too, so I guess it was about 4$ for the Zeagra.
[QUOTE=Jethro 69]I bought Zeagra 4pcs.(100mg) at the small Pharmacy next to the Walkabout for about 5$. I bought some other pills too, so I guess it was about 4$ for the Zeagra.[/QUOTE]Pharmacies around New Market sell Zeagra and similar kind of stuffs from India at cheaper price.
The asking price was 3-4 USD per box of 4 pills, and I was able to bargain down to 4 boxes of various brands for 10 USD.
There are at least 3-4 different varieties of these pills from India.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Has anyone purchased any pills in Phnom Penh that have proved to be genuine? It would be good to know the price paid and from where. All input appreciated.
Hawk[/QUOTE]Kamagra and Zeagra, which I bougth for 2$ per 4-pack at the Socheat Pharmacy ([B][blue]P[/blue][/B] on the [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=61540]map[/url]), have been working very fine, but concerning the the Apcalis I had some doubts, see [post=548267]"Side effects?"[/post] . This weekend I will try the real Cialis I bought at the same shop, I think 17$ per 4-pack. (A black 20 yo will visit me for the long weekend, she just SMSed [i]"Chaude nuits"[/i])
Well, it belongs maybe not in this thread, but as it’s getting already discussed here:
What happens when you take XXagra on a regular basis over the years? I mean will the effectiveness decrease? For the moment 50mg is more then enough to get an erection even after 20 Beers, but what is in ‘bout 10-20 years? Need I then 100mg or even 200mg, same like those folks who take antibiotics every time they think they’re a little bit unwell?
I bought lots of kamagra gel at the pharmacie near the central market.I didn't haggle,70 cents each and banana flavour.
Instant satisfaction I have found.I know people who swear by vee tabs,apparently $9.50 for 20.
[quote=mountain peep]i was not aware of any fishbowls in p-pehn, or elsewhere in cambodia.
i am visiting there soon and would love to know about them!
thanks![/quote]
i am not the full bottle on fish bowls but i know that there is one at the beautifully named chip lay hotel next door to the walkabout.it is on the fifth floor and as one waits for the lift there is a sign next to the lift door that says "no sex".
the walkabout is on the corner of 51 and something st,the chip lay is just down something st to the west of the walkabout.
i paid $3 an hour for the massage and $6 to the girl,a cheap lay for a lovely young thing from kompong cham.
the new york hotel on monivong is only a few minutes walk away and also has massage upstairs but i didn't see a fishbowl.only a lot of girls with very white faces.
Just back from the Socheat Pharmacy. Got the package gor 1.5$. There was no difference in price between 10 and 20 packets. Also there was no need to negotiate for get it for 1.5$
[QUOTE=Durianfan]Well, I made it to Cambodia about 6 months ago,
Rose Bar.-- I don't think you can fuck any of these girls, but they serve good food and it's the only place I know of where you can get beer lao in the bottle, the greatest beer in all of Asia (IMO). Talked to a few of the girls; they were quite nice but I just don't know what the deal is and didn't want to ask because I liked coming there. [/QUOTE]Hello,, Durian,
Yes, these girls will leave with you if they like you, that shouldn't be a problem or wasn't for me anyway. I was in this bar and the others in that area from 6-9pm and was in some places the only customer during those hours. Had the pick of the litter.
I am an early riser, not a big drinker so like to get it on a bit earlier. Had to pay a $10 barfine to take the girl out early, was around 8:30 pm. If you wait until latenight, After midnight I think, no barfine. I think all the bars work on a similar basis.
Anyway, best to get the price agreed on before any commitments are made. I paid the girl I took $25, no negotiations, and she was happy with this since I went back and paid bar on another night with her.
The reason I mention negotiating before hand is I took one back from DV8 bar and gave her the same amount in the early morning as I was getting ready to catch a bus for Siem Reap. The girl looked at the money, gives the $5 back and say's, "No, $40. " I started to argue but ended up giving her $35 to avoid a big scene. Chaulk it up to experience.
BTW, DV8 bar had a $10 barfine for early takeout.
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]I am not the full bottle on fish bowls but I know that there is one at the beautifully named chip lay hotel next door to the walkabout.It is on the fifth floor and as one waits for the lift there is a sign next to the lift door that says "no sex"................[/QUOTE]Hi there Prince,
Do you know if the place is open all day or just in the evening like Cyrcee etc?
Hawk
Sovan Mee was very good to me. I used him my first trip and he was excellent ! ! ! he got me good deals, he's honest and knows every nook and cranny in PP. None better, none more trustworthy and very professional.
Use him, he's worth every penny. If you need help contacting him, PM me, I'll help out.
Shamas O'Dognasty
[QUOTE=Driver SovanMee]Excuse me, where do everybody has gone to? I haven't business is almost one month now. I would like some job to earn money for living. Hope some one will hire me one day or twos in nearer.
Tel: 012 428 007
E-mail: [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
Cheers
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A full morning of seeing genocidal stuff really dampened my spirits during my recent visit to Phnom Penh. Wanting desperately to get a lift, made a visit to Mikado. It was around 7.30 pm and not very crowded. Sat at the bar and surveyed the horizon whilst sipping a drink.
Not long after, two scantily clad women came and sat near me. Bought them a drink and had some small talk. One was desperate to make me horny by resting her breasts on my arm.
Didn’t find anything that interested me too much. Came out and spoke to a few moto guys. One guy recommended Natari, and took me there.
I was given a menu which included the charges for various types of massages. The girls were seated inside a well-lit long glass cubicle resembling a fish tank.
I opted for the lowest massage of US$ 5 and selected a 22 year old slim fair Khmer girl. She took me to a room which was extremely clean. It was clear from the outset that both of us were looking for something more than a mere massage. After a bath together, we had a good 30 minute FS session on the bed. Good GFE, and she could communicate reasonably well in English. Cost : US$ 5 + US$ 20 to the girl.
Would have done a repeat, but Siem Reap beckoned.
thought i would add my experiences at brothels in p.penh where my valuables were targeted for theft. there were 2 different brothels, one on 63st, the other on 154st.
fortunately i got away scot-free on each occasion, but it could have been so different.
the first brothel was at number 99d in str 63 where a mildly aggressive pimp solicits you as you walk by, with an offer of $5usd sex. up 2 fights of steps and into a fishbowl arrangement of about 10 young girls i picked mai, 19yrs, from siem reap who said her mother was viet and father khmer. paid my $5 to the pimp and proceeded to the room.
having read reports of stealing from brothels in 63 st i was wary, but still pretty green, as this was my first brothel experience in pp. i carry a small bag around with me, which i put my moneybelt and camera inside, and which i lock through the zipper eyelets. i do take care to only carry minimal cash with me, the rest i leave back in the hotel.
after stripping off, i placed the locked bag in the corner of the room at the foot of the bed furthest from the door. thinking i was being smart i didn’t place it on the hooks right next to the door where a hand could easily reach in from the door and take it. what i didn’t know was that these guys will slide along the floor out of sight, under the cover of the bed to get at your gear.
the girl started off giving me a really strange massage, mainly a percussion type of massage of my head. this was obviously to make it difficult for me to hear the thief open the door to get at my gear. and she would place my head so i was looking down at the bed as well, and not so my head was looking back towards the door.
after a few minutes of this absolutely fucked massage, i heard a familiar, but soft clinking of the zipper on my bag. ie, the bag was on the move! i immediately got up off the bed to check the security of the bag, and to my shock, it was gone. holy crap! these guys are good! i didn’t even hear anyone enter the room. i shouted at the girl, “where is my bag” and she pointed out the door. so i looked outside the door and there it was. what a relief! there was my bag, all alone, and the combination lock hadn’t even been tampered with.
so it appears that the game here is to grab your gear while you are doing the deed in the room. remove all your excess cash, and then place your gear back in the room without you even knowing it. very hard to prove that they had stolen anything, so tough luck for you.
for me, the fact that i had discovered my bag was missing within 10 seconds of it actually being moved plus the fact that i had locked it probably saved me. it appears that they were not interested in knicking the bag, because then i definitely would have called the police, and that might have been trouble for them. by the way, the girl acted “shocked” that someone had taken my bag.
the second incident occurred at a brothel on 154 st. located just west of norodom blvd on the south side, there were 2 brothels next to each other, with a good selection of reasonably cute and fresh viet and khmer chicks. $10 a pop. after selecting jin from saigon who was longer limbed than most of the others, with a fantastic set of tits, the pimp did a strange thing and took us to the brothel next door. this was probably to get me into the “thieving room”. that is, where it was easiest to knock off my gear. after stripping off, i noticed a closed door to an adjoining room, and a 1 inch crack at the top of the door. and who was peering through the crack? yes the pimp! he was obviously not admiring my impressive schlong, but observing where i was stashing my goodies. i shouted at him to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off, and he soon did. then i locked the door to the room, blocked the crack with some clothes and put my moneybelt at the head of the bed. didn’t have any problems after that.
so some recommendations:
first, never let your valuables out of your sight. always place your valuables on the bed near your head, so they always in view.
second, lock the damned door! the doors have locks on them. use them. third, always carry your valuables into the wash room. again, don’t give the theives access to unattended gear.
fourth, beware red flags like strange massages around the head region; the girl dismissing herself from the room supposedly to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], but more likely to inform the thief on where you are stashing your gear in the room.
now that i know the score in these places i have no hestitations in returning. pussy was great. really fresh girls with great racks. these are the types of girls you see in the pattaya go-go bars that cost a fortune to bar fine and then have to pay an exorbitant st fee, where there is not much change from 1600 baht. here in ppenh, they are a great bargain, the equivalent of 175baht ($5usd) to 350baht ($10usd).
will post photos of both these girls in the photo gallery.
and a query: does anyone have the actual address numbers of the brothels in st 63? i have read here that there are 4 viet brothels in this street. thanks.
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[QUOTE=Franga]Thought I would add my experiences at brothels in P.Penh where my valuables were targeted for theft. There were 2 different brothels, one on 63st, the other on 154st.
Fortunately I got away scot-free on each occasion, but it could have been so different.
And a query: Does anyone have the actual address numbers of the brothels in St 63? I have read here that there are 4 Viet brothels in this street. Thanks.
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Hmm , after all my reports about these places there will always be the curious ones that still go there.
Glad you are safe (despite all my warnings) and nothing stolen.
Still don't know why you still want to pay them to keep these thieves in business instead of spending your money to support honest ones?????
Anyway, most of the brothels I had visited in the past are closed (and since the scams are same, then it's the same thieving pimps open up elsewhere. Not too hard to find them as they will often approach you instead. The pushier the pimp, the more they want your money (to steal that is).
If you had read my previous reports, I intentionally visited many brothels there and 100% of the time I had some money missing. (I deliberately left a few dollars in my pockets just to see how it was done and perhaps find an honest place at St63 to report about, but never found even one).
BTW: I was never afraid of having a few things stolen from me but if you had read Pirate1 reports he almost got killed or beat up when he caught on to their scheme at these brothels. Just to let you know that your money is not the only thing you can lose here. Remember that life is cheap in Cambo. They will not hesitate to whack you for a few dollars. Also, don't expect the police to help you if something do go wrong as I've heard they are often in on the scam to profit from it--in fact, they could be the ones to make you "disappear forever" to protect their profits. This happened when I visited Cambo last year (I won't disclose location or city) but an Aussie was missing and was last seen with a few plainclothes police officers??--maybe they were and maybe not, who knows. But the Aussie"s body was never found. If losing your life or getting beat up is worth saving a few dollars at these places then the choice is yours to make.---IMO
PT
Thank you for your reports, but why you did not take these girls to your place? Was it possible?
These 63rd Street spots were not like this just a few years ago. The deal was as advertised, then, at least in my own experience. I wouldn't compare what was on offer to what you'd find in BKK go-gos, then at least. But in Feb 2005 I had the same experience described often here, and was lucky to catch the mysterious arm in the act of trying to grab my pants. A moto driver had taken me there that night, only because my regular driver stood me up on our appointment (he claimed to know the spot my regular was going to take me to - he didn't). Bad luck for me.
Anyway, unless the quality of the talent on 63rd St has risen dramatically in the last 2 yrs, which I doubt, definitely you can find much better in even the cheapest spots in PP (such as Martini's, Walkabout, etc.).
Otherwise I guess you could wear your moneybelt around your waist during the act, and I suppose then that she'd be doing a lot of back massage during the act, with someone standing there to receive the cash as she handed it over. Really, not sure how anyone could enjoy this kind of struggle. Maybe some do. I guess if you do like that kind of thing, 63rd St is the place for you. ;-)
But basically, this was a cheap and bottom-of-the-barrel experience in the early 2000s and prior, and sometime around 2004-2005 it changed to the scam it is now. Even when it was "good", it was barely worth going to.
the whole family with 4 kids were eating lunch on the filthy kitchen floor. the viet girl took me into her room then suggested i leave all my clothes on the shelves next to the door.
thanks to info in isg i knew some pro's would sneak through the door and lift my wallet, so i refused. the girl insisted again that i leave the clothes next to the door. fuck that. i had my clothes and my wallet bundled up on the bed and i kept my hand on it while i gave the girl her $5 fuck of her life.
i was scared shitless thoughout the fuck that some assholes would steal my wallet and passport. but i made it through ok. on the way out, saw 3 farangs sitting in the pink-neon lighted room ogling the girls. would not do it again for security reason. if they are bold enough to steal your wallets intheir own home, they are capable of the nastiest tricks.
[quote=franga]thought i would add my experiences at brothels in p.penh where my valuables were targeted for theft. there were 2 different brothels, one on 63st, the other on 154st.
fortunately i got away scot-free on each occasion, but it could have been so different.
the first brothel was at number 99d in str 63 where a mildly aggressive pimp solicits you as you walk by, with an offer of $5usd sex. up 2 fights of steps
so some recommendations:
first, never let your valuables out of your sight. always place your valuables on the bed near your head, so they always in view.
second, lock the damned door! the doors have locks on them. use them. third, always carry your valuables into the wash room. again, don’t give the theives access to unattended gear.
fourth, beware red flags like strange massages around the head region; the girl dismissing herself from the room supposedly to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], but more likely to inform the thief on where you are stashing your gear in the room.
and a query: does anyone have the actual address numbers of the brothels in st 63? i have read here that there are 4 viet brothels in this street. thanks.
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It would seem to me that the way to deal with this crap would simply be to show up at these *****houses with nothing but $5-10 cash (maybe carrying a photocopy of your passport), wearing a T-shirt and gym shorts, leaving your wallet and passport back in the hotel safe.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]It would seem to me that the way to deal with this crap would simply be to show up at these *****houses with nothing but $5-10 cash (maybe carrying a photocopy of your passport), wearing a T-shirt and gym shorts, leaving your wallet and passport back in the hotel safe.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Member, that is the best way to visit any brothel.
I almost never carry my wallet or passport(s) anywhere I go, much less into a brothel. Similarly I only carry 1,500 baht or so when going out for the evening in Pattaya. Back home it is standard practice when picking up streetwalkers to remove anything of a personal nature from the car, and keep your wallet in the trunk.
thank you for your reports, but why you did not take these girls to your place? was it possible?
[quote=franga]thought i would add my experiences at brothels in p.penh where my valuables were targeted for theft. there were 2 different brothels, one on 63st, the other on 154st.
fortunately i got away scot-free on each occasion, but it could have been so different.
the first brothel was at number 99d in str 63 where a mildly aggressive pimp solicits you as you walk by, with an offer of $5usd sex. up 2 fights of steps and into a fishbowl arrangement of about 10 young girls i picked mai, 19yrs, from siem reap who said her mother was viet and father khmer. paid my $5 to the pimp and proceeded to the room.
having read reports of stealing from brothels in 63 st i was wary, but still pretty green, as this was my first brothel experience in pp. i carry a small bag around with me, which i put my moneybelt and camera inside, and which i lock through the zipper eyelets. i do take care to only carry minimal cash with me, the rest i leave back in the hotel.
after stripping off, i placed the locked bag in the corner of the room at the foot of the bed furthest from the door. thinking i was being smart i didn’t place it on the hooks right next to the door where a hand could easily reach in from the door and take it. what i didn’t know was that these guys will slide along the floor out of sight, under the cover of the bed to get at your gear.
the girl started off giving me a really strange massage, mainly a percussion type of massage of my head. this was obviously to make it difficult for me to hear the thief open the door to get at my gear. and she would place my head so i was looking down at the bed as well, and not so my head was looking back towards the door.
after a few minutes of this absolutely fucked massage, i heard a familiar, but soft clinking of the zipper on my bag. ie, the bag was on the move! i immediately got up off the bed to check the security of the bag, and to my shock, it was gone. holy crap! these guys are good! i didn’t even hear anyone enter the room. i shouted at the girl, “where is my bag” and she pointed out the door. so i looked outside the door and there it was. what a relief! there was my bag, all alone, and the combination lock hadn’t even been tampered with.
so it appears that the game here is to grab your gear while you are doing the deed in the room. remove all your excess cash, and then place your gear back in the room without you even knowing it. very hard to prove that they had stolen anything, so tough luck for you.
for me, the fact that i had discovered my bag was missing within 10 seconds of it actually being moved plus the fact that i had locked it probably saved me. it appears that they were not interested in knicking the bag, because then i definitely would have called the police, and that might have been trouble for them. by the way, the girl acted “shocked” that someone had taken my bag.
the second incident occurred at a brothel on 154 st. located just west of norodom blvd on the south side, there were 2 brothels next to each other, with a good selection of reasonably cute and fresh viet and khmer chicks. $10 a pop. after selecting jin from saigon who was longer limbed than most of the others, with a fantastic set of tits, the pimp did a strange thing and took us to the brothel next door. this was probably to get me into the “thieving room”. that is, where it was easiest to knock off my gear. after stripping off, i noticed a closed door to an adjoining room, and a 1 inch crack at the top of the door. and who was peering through the crack? yes the pimp! he was obviously not admiring my impressive schlong, but observing where i was stashing my goodies. i shouted at him to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off, and he soon did. then i locked the door to the room, blocked the crack with some clothes and put my moneybelt at the head of the bed. didn’t have any problems after that.
so some recommendations:
first, never let your valuables out of your sight. always place your valuables on the bed near your head, so they always in view.
second, lock the damned door! the doors have locks on them. use them. third, always carry your valuables into the wash room. again, don’t give the theives access to unattended gear.
fourth, beware red flags like strange massages around the head region; the girl dismissing herself from the room supposedly to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], but more likely to inform the thief on where you are stashing your gear in the room.
now that i know the score in these places i have no hestitations in returning. pussy was great. really fresh girls with great racks. these are the types of girls you see in the pattaya go-go bars that cost a fortune to bar fine and then have to pay an exorbitant st fee, where there is not much change from 1600 baht. here in ppenh, they are a great bargain, the equivalent of 175baht ($5usd) to 350baht ($10usd).
will post photos of both these girls in the photo gallery.
and a query: does anyone have the actual address numbers of the brothels in st 63? i have read here that there are 4 viet brothels in this street. thanks.
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[QUOTE=Member #2041]It would seem to me that the way to deal with this crap would simply be to show up at these *****houses with nothing but $5-10 cash (maybe carrying a photocopy of your passport), wearing a T-shirt and gym shorts, leaving your wallet and passport back in the hotel safe.[/QUOTE]
Maybe yes, maybe no, so best to be on the safe side.
These pimps and gals and their scams are getting more bold and violent (unlike in the past). Just reading back on some of the reports on these places going back only 1 year and you can see some members were threaten with violence when they caught on to their tactics. (from my own experiences, I've NEVER felt totally safe or relaxed at any of these brothels on St63.)
Who knows what they are capable of doing these days if they suspect you are now "cheating them" by not bringing more money with you. Remember these are all crooks and not honest people. A pissed off crook is the worst kind of people.
We all heard news stories even in our own "civilized" home country about muggers beating or killing people simply because you wasted their time without having enough money on you for them to steal. Now we are talking about Cambo, a 3rd world poor nation where the average daily salary is $1-3/day, so who knows what can happen to you.
Like I said before, it's your choice and your life, but at least you have all been warned. For me, I prefer to pay a little extra and enjoy, be relaxed and not having to worry all the while I'm there if someone is going to steal my stuff or put a knife in my back.
----IMO
PT
[Quote]“Thank you for your reports, but why you did not take these girls to your place? Was it possible?” [/Quote]I never considered taking any of these brothel girls back to my hotel. I just wanted a brothel experience. For me the downsides to taking them back to your hotel often outway the upsides. First, the extra cost to get them out of the brothel (don’t even know if it was possible, but I suppose it is as they will sell anything to you in Cambodia). Second, I prefer to make a mess in the brothel rather than back in my hotel. Also these girls aren’t very personable, so the less time spent with them the better. For me it was just a slip it in, slip it out, then go on my way.
However, I don’t have any problems bringing Martini or Sharkey girls back to my hotel. In my short visit to Phnom Penh, I took 2 Martini girls. The first I took back to my hotel (I posted her in the Photo gallery a few days ago). The second, I didn’t feel like taking back to my hotel, so we took a short time hotel only 2 minutes away (north) from Martini’s by moto. This is a good option for Martini girls. $5 for a nice and clean hotel-like room at a guesthouse, and 2 rubbers thrown in as well. The moto driver took us there for 500R, waited till we had finished and then drove us back to Martini’s where I dropped off the girl, and then the driver took me back to Central P. Penh for $1.
[Quote]It would seem to me that the way to deal with this crap would simply be to show up at these *****houses with nothing but $5-10 cash (maybe carrying a photocopy of your passport), wearing a T-shirt and gym shorts, leaving your wallet and passport back in the hotel safe.[/Quote]I totally agree with recent posts suggesting you take minimal valuables to brothels.
In my home country, I take the exact cash I need, and leave my watch at home. No valuables whatsoever. Prior to me implementing this “policy”, I have had $20 cash taken out of my trouser pockets while I was in the shower on 2 occasions, and there was nothing I could do about it. Never again!
As for 3rd world brothels, I always like to take my camera to get pictures of the girls. So I usually take my camera, and some extra cash (minimal), and then keep an eye on them. All other goodies such as passport, debit cards, cash etc, are left back in my hotel room locked inside my bag. In theory it would be best to take the exact cash to these P. Penh brothels and leave everything of value back at the hotel.
[Quote]Anyway, unless the quality of the talent on 63rd St has risen dramatically in the last 2 yrs, which I doubt, definitely you can find much better in even the cheapest spots in PP (such as Martini's, Walkabout, etc.). [/Quote]The 3 brothel girls I took had better bodies than the 2 Martini girls I went with. Not to say that there weren’t better Martini girls. However the Martini girls definitely had somewhat better attitudes. It is also easier in a brothel to pick your girl of choice rather than having to make uneasy contact at a place like Martini’s.
[Quote]These pimps and gals and their scams are getting more bold and violent (unlike in the past).[/Quote]Personally I never felt physically threatened. To me it is more like a game. Who can outsmart the other. Maybe I am wrong as I only spent 1 week in Cambodia. Just be cool and don’t act in an angry or threatening manner and you should be right.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Has anyone purchased any pills in Phnom Penh that have proved to be genuine? It would be good to know the price paid and from where. All input appreciated.
Hawk[/QUOTE]I usually stock-up on KAMAGRA when in PP. I pay $1.60 per pack/4 when I buy ten packs. I always go to SOPEA PHARMACY or VIMOL PHARMACY near the Central Market my first day in town and buy one pack of the current batch in stock and over the next few days dedicate myself to thouroughly testing them.
I have found that there are variations batch to batch in affectiveness and the duration both of the time it takes them to start working and how long the effect lasts.
In Feburary, the pills went from blue to green and I noticed that the taste of the coating was more pronounced and more "painty". They seemed to take a long time to "peak", sometimes two hours or more and the duration was shorter; they just didn't seem as powerful as before. Interestingly, in the morning, there seemed to be a rebound and I'd be ready to pole-vault around the room but it didn't last all that long.
Last month, the pills went back to blue but still had the painty taste. These seemed even a bit less affective than the previous green ones, I found that it would take 1 1/2 pills to get the same effect that I'd get from one last year; OK, I've aged, but not that much. Just to be sure, I recently took a PANAGRA from a pack purchased in Thailand last year, it started working within 45 minutes and kept working all night.
I'll still purchase KAMAGRA in PP because at $.40 cents a pill, I don't mind taking an extra half if needed. The best price I've found in Bangkok is B300/4. thats $2.20 a pill at todays exchange rates, not an insignificant difference.
I suggest people do what I do and purchase a sample and test it out with any of the more than willing research assistants that PP has on offer.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi there Prince,
Do you know if the place is open all day or just in the evening like Cyrcee etc?
Hawk[/QUOTE]I was there in the early afternoon a year ago and though it was open, the selection was pretty poor.
They started with a "Highball" quote of $30, no "yum-yum". I negotiated it down to $15 but realized it wasn't going to be a whole lot of fun and split.
There is a "fishbowl" on the third floor the PARIS HOTEL on Kampuchea Krom, open from just past noon. They have some very decent Viet and Khmer girls.
The "massage" is $7.00, extras negotiable with the girls. They are used to Asian high-rollers who frequent the casino on the second floor and start high. One particularly beautiful Viet started at $50 and wouldn't budge from $40,...I settled for the massage. Others have always ended up settling for $20 f/s.
A couple of times when I found I wasn't that enthusiastic about a girl, I've tried holding out for $15 but was never sucessful.
By the way, though away from the action in a business district, PARIS has very decent rooms for $15.
Do not confuse it with the NEW PARIS HOTEL, also on Kampuchea Krom.
What annoys me about street 63, is the taxi drivers who take you there, know dam well that the thieves steal things from you.
Just to confirm what I read below.
Sophie: Given my gueshouse is 1 mns away, I paid a visit last week. "No Room, Website" is what mama said. Apparently some retard said women were dancing naked in there and police gave them some heat. If you are still deperate for russian roulette BJ, it mostly happens at the counter with Mama watching you; ) Some people may like.
Vietnam brothels: I have been to the one in "coconut street". Not sure of the name of the street, but there are many coconut vendors on each side. The brothel is in the basement, with many girls on the waiting room on the left. As very well described, experienced the routine of getting massage loudly while you are on your back, and someone trying to enter to get your stuff. I stopped the scam before it happened but turning around and the massage girl was scared to death. Nevertheless gave me excellent service for a good tip. As well advised, just take 5 or 6 bucks with you, close the doors and put your pants by your side.
[QUOTE=Mai Yao]I was there in the early afternoon a year ago and though it was open, the selection was pretty poor.
They started with a "Highball" quote of $30, no "yum-yum". I negotiated it down to $15 but realized it wasn't going to be a whole lot of fun and split.
There is a "fishbowl" on the third floor the PARIS HOTEL on Kampuchea Krom, open from just past noon. They have some very decent Viet and Khmer girls.
The "massage" is $7.00, extras negotiable with the girls. They are used to Asian high-rollers who frequent the casino on the second floor and start high. One particularly beautiful Viet started at $50 and wouldn't budge from $40,...I settled for the massage. Others have always ended up settling for $20 f/s.
A couple of times when I found I wasn't that enthusiastic about a girl, I've tried holding out for $15 but was never sucessful.
By the way, though away from the action in a business district, PARIS has very decent rooms for $15.
Do not confuse it with the NEW PARIS HOTEL, also on Kampuchea Krom.[/QUOTE]
I should have noted in the text of my response that I was answering a question regarding the CHIP LAY HOTEL, around the corner from WALKABOUT.
I was staying in DV8 for 2 nights.
They have about 15 girls I guess. But it is a small pub. So whatever you wanna do with the lady will be visible to all the other customer (if they have) or lady.
So this does not make me feel comfortable.
1st night:
Went to Martini, pick up a Vietnamese girl.
Short, about 152cm, young, about 18 yrs old & quite cute.
Have a ST with her at one of the guesshouse near Martini. Paid the biker 1 USD & guesshouse owner 5 USD for 1 hour.
Yum-yum & boom-boom, tried almost all position.
Paid her 30 USD. In fact I had overpaid. ST rate should be only 20 USD.
Conclusion: 7 / 10
2nd night:
Thinking of getting one girl from DV8, coz lazy to go out.
She is not so pretty, but ask for 40 USD for LT, & I have to pay 10 USD bar fine because it is before 10pm. Got [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off & went to Martini again.
Picked up one local Khmer / chinese girl.
Beautiful face & cheerful character. Never get bored.
Brought her back to DV8, to show off :)
Yum-yum & boom boom for 1st round. Cum on her body.
Second day morning, yum-yum & boom boom for 2nd round, CIM, great !
Paid her 40 USD + 5USD for tips.
Conclusion: 7.5 / 10
[QUOTE=Niknoy]What annoys me about street 63, is the taxi drivers who take you there, know dam well that the thieves steal things from you.[/QUOTE]
Not only taxi drivers but alot of motodops. They get a cut of the take stolen from you. Even if you caught them in the act then the drivers still get a commission from the brothels for bringing you there so it's a "win/win" situation for the drivers.
Note: not all drivers are dishonest. Just ask for a recommendation at your hotel desk.
PT
[QUOTE=Niknoy]What annoys me about street 63, is the taxi drivers who take you there, know dam well that the thieves steal things from you.[/QUOTE]Thats part of the game we are going there to f*** and sometime we get f***
It is like the hunter who is becoming the hunted.
@Kt Lover,
Paid her 30 USD. In fact I had overpaid. ST rate should be only 20 USD.
LT rate has been $20 for years.
Went bar hopping Sunday afternoon along the river front. Lots of good bars and pretty girl staffs in lots of them. Particularily enjoyed Rory's Irish Bar. Good beer and again cute bar staff. Ended up late afternoon/early evening at DV 8.
We went upstairs to the balcony. There were 3 of us. We each saw some cute girls and had 1 sit by each of us and drank beers. The girls were fun to be with and chatty. Probably stayed there for 1 1/2 hours with the girls. 1 guy had to leave to meet his girlfriend. Me and my mate took the girl we were with back to our hotel for more fun. We paid the $10 barfine (before 11pm, after 11pm $5) and off to the hotel.
Won't tell you the girl's name I was with as she has a boy friend. She was lots of fun to be with. We showered back at the room and then went to the bed. She gave me a wonderful bbbj. Great technique and suction. Just the way I like it. She got me off with that great bbbj. We paused then for some refreshments for awhile.
Round 2, I attacked her clit with my tongue and got her aroused. Switched to 69 and she got me hard again. Capped and off to town in a wonderful pussy. Not too tight and not too loose; just right :):). Did multiple positions over the 30 minutes until we both popped.
We finished our refreshments and went to sleep. Round 3 in the morning began with my dick in her mouth. Being the morning and just wanting to "get off", just pumped her pussy until I popped a 3d time. We then both cleaned up and I sent her on her merry way with $20 and got her digits.
I had so much fun with her that i called her up to come on over the next evening. That night was a wonderful repeat performance of the night before. Again paid her $30 the next morning for barfine and for herself. Funds worth while! !
[QUOTE=Taloha]Not too tight[/QUOTE]Didn't think that existed!
My first night in Phnom Pen, I met up with some experienced British guys. Very nice guys who had traveled around Cambodia before. Also into good clean fun with the girls.
I tagged along with them to DV8 Bar in the Riverfront section on Street 148. Hotel upstairs, hostess bar downstairs. You can buy the ladies drinks, then you pay an exit fee, and you negotiate with the girls for extra services. The girls are free not to go with you, and they are free to not sleep with even if you pay the bar fine and take them out. This can make for some confusion. Beware.
(The hostess concept – pay a woman for her time, and to be on your arm out, but without sex, is an import from Thailand, and a scenario I never enjoyed. The down and dirty and some places "simple" sex scene of Phnom Pen will be eroding. The Thai style will continue to infiltrate. Maybe I will rant on this later. No matter what, I am blessed to be able to make the best of most situations).
As I learned the ropes at DV8, I settled on a thin Khymer babe, bought her a drink ($3 lady drinks) and introduced her to my British buds. We played a game of pool – boy do I stink at pool – yikes.
After the drink and the pool game, I sat to cut the deal with my first piece in Cambodia and I learned that she was on the rag. I could not believe it. She made me promise to come back for her in four days. I told the Brits, and finally they could not keep a straight face, and we all laughed.
The Brits had little success also (DV8 that night was just not happening.) and we left for Rose Bar (I believe it is on Street 108 – also in the river front section). Nice row of bars. Rose Bar is also a confusing hostess scene. $10 bar fine before 11 pm and $5 after 11 pm. I was feeling the frustration. I like to walk in, pick and leave (there is plenty of that too in the city, as I will describe some other time).
In the back of Rose Bar there is a pool table. Some hostesses (or whatever they are – the term hostess has too many definitions in the confusing vernacular of SE Asia and Phnom Pen), run the table. My friend calls them Barbie dolls. All glammed up. Pretty pretty.
There were three hotties back there. One Khymer girl was dressed in high heels, black mini, black top. Make up, hair up, false eyelashes, the works. She could shoot pool too. So pretty to watch her sink the shots, with that ass jutting out. Her name was Nari, and they partnered me up with her. Gulp. (At DV8, Tim had brushed me up on pool). I ended up getting lucky and properly sinking the 8 ball with a behind the back shot for a win, to the delight of the 20 people in the pool room.
As the games progressed, I finally asked Nari to come back to my hotel. She looked me up and down, smiled coyly and said yes. I was glad, because sometimes in Cambodia and all the world it can be tough to get laid in a *****house, even with a fist full of fifties. It was after 2 am, and the bar was closing. She asked for my hotel name and room number and said she would meet me. We think this was to avoid the bar fine. I was unsure she would show. Her English was poor to fair. We did not talk price.
I left the British boys at about 2:15 am and hopped on a moto taxi who had no idea where he was going. We drove around in circles for a bit (it was late, quiet streets and no streetlights yet in most of that city). We ended up back at the riverfront. I paid him $1. 00 to go away and tried another one and he was OK.
By the time I arrived at Flamingos hotel, everyone was waiting for me (security guy outside, pro hostess pool shark, front desk guys). It was funny.
Nari was great in bed. When she let her hair down, I was so happy to see that. Nary (not her real name) pulled the soon to be familiar shy routine of wanting to get in the shower ASAP. I indulged her, and there was enough light. She took off all the makeup and got very warm and snuggly. Nice kissing, and she got very horny (pussy very wet) when I bit her nipples. She gave a decent blowjob, but as I found with some of the other Khymer girls, they give an only OK blowjob, but a wonderful ass licking. Nari tossed my salad for a good 15 minutes in all positions, and with me smothering her on top too. I never get tired of that. She rode my dick too and loved it. I fucked her all over the place. She gave a true attempt for anal, but could not take it. Too tight. It was a true attempt (with plenty o’ lube (I always carry)), I know well the difference. A for effort. We tried twice. Yummy thing. After that we rested, and she hopped on again for another load. We finished up at 6 in the morning.
We went to sleep and she left at 10 am with no more sex. She was very pleasant.
I gave her $25. I justified the extra $5 since we avoided the bar fine. She was happy with that. She liked me (and my money). My favorite combo.
It was a wonderful first lay in the country.
Nari shared some videos, music and photos with me from her phone.
I downloaded some of the shots and share them with you.
Nari would not go for graphic nudes.
She told me she was going to the hair stylist for me, and I should stop by her bar that night, but I never saw her again.
Outstanding.
The rest of the photos are posted in the photo gallery.
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Well, I visited PP in feb for 8 days and I had a blast, sam PP driver shown me the local boomboom hotel where they were so many pretty local girls shown up. I paid $12 for room and the girls. most girls were young around 18 to 21yrs old and since, it was local place all were superb and slim. I knoticed they stop many caucations at the door. Since I am asian, I think I was accepted. I do believe Cambodians were paying $5 instead of $10 for the girls. I was averaging 7girls a day, so I was spending around $100 a day including food. I have also visited sophies, and cyercee. all $15 for deed. I also visited 63 too and yes I did not take money in there, and I do feel that unattended, You will lose everything while you are washing up.
Went to a Karaoke place we went to last year. I asked my friend to try and find the girl I was with last year. Surprisingly, he found her. I was late getting there and when I walked into the room, she was there. He remembered what she looked like, but not her name. As he was walking around he spotted her.
There was about 5 of us and about 7 girls. Did the karaoke thing for a few hours. 3 of us talked our girls into going out with us. We went to a Chinese restaurant for late night eats. Food was very good.
After eating, back to our rooms. My girl is 27 years old, but looks 20, with 4 year old daughter. The my girl's mom helps look after the daughter. My girl is about 5'5" with long brown hair and 34C's. Perfect body.
We had good sex with 2 pops. She was also still lactating, so had wonderful sweet milk. After sex, 1 breast was covered with milk, of course had to lick it up.
Had her stay the day and the next night and not go to work. Called the mamasan who liked me from previous time and she said no problem. Also the night before my buddy did the mamasan in his room overnight.
At the Karaoke, the girls don't have to go with you, and if they do, they do not have to have sex with you.
For 2 nights and 1 day gave her $100. Her rent is $25 a month for a room. She will be my regular in PP and we are texting every few days now.
Hi lexis58,
Could you PM where is located this boumboum hotel youy are mentioning? It sounds great!
Thanks for the tip!
Lulu
[QUOTE=Taloha]For 2 nights and 1 day gave her $100. Her rent is $25 a month for a room. She will be my regular in PP and we are texting every few days now.[/QUOTE]Sorry. That's too much! $40 is okay, $50 excusable.
But $100 bungles price level in Cambodia!!
[QUOTE=Taloha]After eating, back to our rooms. My girl is 27 years old, but looks 20, with 4 year old daughter.
We had good sex with 2 pops. She was also still lactating, so had wonderful sweet milk. After sex, 1 breast was covered with milk, of course had to lick it up.[/QUOTE]She must also have another baby that she didn't tell you about.
Either that or she is about to pop another one out!
Can't imagine a girl with breast milk 4 years after the birth of a child!
[QUOTE=Correspondent]She must also have another baby that she didn't tell you about.
Either that or she is about to pop another one out!
Can't imagine a girl with breast milk 4 years after the birth of a child![/QUOTE]
I cannot believe that he did not notice it if she were lactating for the next.
And yes a female can lactate as long as she is milked, ask any farmer!
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi there Prince,
Do you know if the place is open all day or just in the evening like Cyrcee etc?
Hawk[/QUOTE]
Gday hawk,haven't been here lately as i brought my khmer princess back to australia for a while.
The chip lay is open in the afternoons and i have seen the massage girls going to work mid morning so I think that it is open nearly all day.
[quote=lexis58]well, i visited pp in feb for 8 days and i had a blast, sam pp driver shown me the local boomboom hotel where they were so many pretty local girls shown up. i paid $12 for room and the girls. most girls were young around 18 to 21yrs old and since, it was local place all were superb and slim. i knoticed they stop many caucations at the door.[/quote]this is because the ngo`s ruined it for us caucations, the ngo`s will not do a damed thing about places like street 63 stealing our money, but if we are seen with a girl who to the ngo`s look ****d then the ngo`s will want to jump up and down and arrest us.
FYI the web address for Sams taxi service is [url]www.phnompenhtaxidriver.biz[/url]
He has taken me to visit his home village which was a great experience if you have time and are into that sort of thing.
The village on the river just south of Phnom Penh is interesting if you want to go there for a nice lunch oh the river, or some fun with the girls in the houses which are built over the water. Sam will be able to take u there...
Sorry that web site should be [url]www.phnompenhtaxi.biz[/url]
Hi,
The 63 street is still open. Some other small brothels around the walkabout. The price is 5 $ short. But is depend on the day. One day very niche girls, the next day you can forget it.
This is my first time to PP and would like some suggestions on where to stay. I see that the Flamingos Hotel seems to be popular. I want something under $50, clean and secure, close to Martini's (seems like my kind of place) and other venues. Walking distance or short moto ride would be great. And of course, the hotel has to be girl friendly. Thanks in advance. I'm looking forward to a new experience. Been to China and Thailand many time for mongering, but first time to Cambodia.
Lexix 58,
Would you mind PM-ing me with Sam's phone #?
PhnomPenh is as dirty (utterly filthy - trash all over) as ever - there was some interesting talent down around the riverside for $5 to 10 or so. Try happy pizza (about street 184 on the river) for a pizza with a bit of a difference - the herbs are the thing - about $4 for a small. (same ownership as in SiemRiep and Snooky) Mikado and Cyrcee are still $15 (got a bunch of duds though - one "shy" about baby belly - kept light off - and another was essentially worthless - those at Mikado) Mikado seems to allow underwear now (was more fun without) Rain at 92F, cools down, rain stops then result is a virtual sauna at 90% humidity - not fun. Seems to rain 2X/day - thunderstorms.
The overland trip from Bangkok was about 14 hours total trip time (so much faster to fly, 1 hour and just 2X cost at about $80 for the return including airport fee on AirAsia) Costs 200B to Trat, 110 to border (stayed overnight in the KohKong little shithole) $2 to KK and $20 to PP. $5 room with big roaches. Got by with $25 for the Cambo visa at KK.
Walkabout didn't have any "cute" girls - just a buch of hardcores. They do a pat down at Heart of Darkness. Take ear plugs - it's LOUD!! Perhaps the best option for rooms is at Flamingo at $20, but there are others
Dinghy.
You mentioned there was some talent around Riverside. Can you be a little more specific on the location. Were they opposite the California 2 hotel or around the FFC? What time of day were they there? Did they approach you?
Thanks,
TC.
Hmm. I was wondering what hotel has rooms with the most light and cost under $20. Got a new camcorder I wanna try out but the lighting in most rooms is pretty low. Wanna hear your thoughts.
[QUOTE=SeattleGman]This is my first time to PP and would like some suggestions on where to stay. I see that the Flamingos Hotel seems to be popular. I want something under $50, clean and secure, close to Martini's (seems like my kind of place) and other venues. Walking distance or short moto ride would be great. And of course, the hotel has to be girl friendly. Thanks in advance. I'm looking forward to a new experience. Been to China and Thailand many time for mongering, but first time to Cambodia.[/QUOTE]
You can't go wrong with the flamingo if you can get a room,I have heard that PP is pretty empty now so you should be right.The big luck is another that sounds OK,only a little further away and it has a pool.
Billabong starts at $35 with a pool and is only five minutes walk from flamingos but it is not really girl friendly although ANZAC owned.But it is very nice and quiet.
The best thing about flamingos is the location near the walkabout,chip lay,shanghai,heart,howie,soho2,mikado,le cyrcee,sophie,sharkeys and the riverfront.All within ten minutes walk.
Martini is a little off the beaten track from anywhere,about ten minutes on a moto.
A word of advice to those seeking women on the street whether the riverside,monument or wat phnom-don't bother,why would you with all the other options available?You are only asking for grief especially if you can't speak khmer.
Some girls along riverside speak minimal English. They say "hello" and you can go from there. I didn't go anywhere else. Of course, being able to speak minimal Thai does NO GOOD whatever.
Flamingo is right around the corner from Walkabout (1 block away)
About the most annoying thing about PP is that every motodriver thinks that you need to ride with them. I swear NOBODY walks a block in PP (except barangs) Seemed hotter there, though, than in Pattaya
As to the why bother with street girls - depends on what you like. Actually get a better "deal" and some are more GFE. The one I did didn't do BJ though
I am revisiting PP on 25th May, And I m interested in meeting some up Market girls. I remember reading in this forum that there was a hotel there catered for the up market sector.
If anyone is in PP from the 25th and wants a drinking budie give me a pm.
I will be staying in flamingos!
Very sad news guys, the lovely Srey Lisa from Barbados just passed away very suddenly 8 days ago from dengue fever.
She was one of my regular and I just had spent a very nice afternoon 2 days before she died. She was a nice fine girl, I just wanted to pay her a little tribute her, she really deserves it. Another shattered life in Cambodia...
Very Tragic.
[QUOTE=Luludinky]I just had spent a very nice afternoon 2 days before she died.[/QUOTE]
If she was healthy during this afternoon, then she didn't die of Dengue.
Dengue can kill in some 1% of the cases but not within 2 days.
IMHO.
RIP.
[QUOTE=Luludinky]Very sad news guys, the lovely Srey Lisa from Barbados just passed away very suddenly 8 days ago from dengue fever.
She was one of my regular and I just had spent a very nice afternoon 2 days before she died. She was a nice fine girl, I just wanted to pay her a little tribute her, she really deserves it. Another shattered life in Cambodia...[/QUOTE]Sorry to say, but I have met this girl almost 2 months ago a few times. At that time she was already a little wacko. I have my doubts that she died from dengue fever.
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#1. Best reason to visit...
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Number one reason to come to Kambo is the fruit-slush. They make it perfect. Much better than the thais. Sweeter, fruitier and more sirupey. The Kambo version is so thick that the straw stands in it straight, while in the average thai it flips. And the cost is minimal, one dollar or less for a large cup. Where I come from they charge 5 bucks for a small cup. Certainly justifies the expense of travel. They call it "toek krolok" which equals "nahm panh" in thai.
You can buy it at any restaurant, at the markets but the best is at Sorya foodcourt. You can have mango, watermelon, banana, coconut and more...
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The good old times..........
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There was all varieties of meat for sale that you could imagine. Steak, chops, beef, lamb and tender chicken breast fillets. It was the best, relaxed and elevating fun place ever invented in the world. It was only a short moto ride from the Capital, you could do all your meat-shopping in the afternoon and still be back home for an evening pizza. It was called K11, the Brothels....... The center of the Universe......
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......Justice for all.........
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...and justice for all...
It was right to shut it down. The stronger is always right. This is justice as is practiced today. Unite my brothers and be strong. Fight each other and you enslave yourselves to the painted meat. You flex muscles, flash painted tattoos and strut like a brainless peacock. You brag how many men you have beaten up. When you are nothing but a fool. You only have beaten yourself. Great hero of women.
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The brothel was a hotel...
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I got this far in my thinking and decided it was time to move on. Early evening, darkness just set in but still plentiful of light from the shops so I opted for walking. Quietly sneaked away from the hordes of motos and left Sorya shopping centre in Phnom Penh.
The brothel I was looking for is actually a small hotel. However in daytime the gate is firmly locked, no sign of activity. Needless to say it is hotel only in name. Only when night comes they open the doors very slightly to reveal the pink/red lighting inside. Old papa was sitting by the door. I thought about a little joke and asked for a vacant room first.
-"Mien bontop tomne tey?"
Old papa seemed a bit surprised by farang approaching him and turned away muttering a slight "Ot!" (meaning: "No!")
I laughed at my own splendid joke, since it was obvious they don't sell rooms, and continued:
-"Mien si'rey sa'at tey?" ("Do you have pretty girls?")
A sudden glow and smile crossed his weather-beaten face (there are not many oldies in Kambo) and he keenly replied:
"Mien." ("Have".)
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....politics, gentlemen, politics.........
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Gentlemen, what I would like to emphasize here is the issue of "politics". The interaction of perceived (real/imaginary) groups of persons negotiating, interacting. I would urge you to try to fit in with this "group", these nice Cambodian gentlemen, rather than try to act as a lone "farang hero" (muscles, tattoos, guns, etc). This is your key to great fucking, peace, love and a better future world for all.
We are not trying to hit back at these "poor-little asian girls" because of the wrong the farang women did to us. Not at all! But rather we try to re-educate ourselves to proper behaviour with women and nullify our brainwashing. Don't forget, your experience doesn't end at the border but follows you home! You will treat farang women differently at your work and
at home after your "cheap-meat" Kambo/Thai experiences.
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.........salivating, deprived, imbecile puppets....
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You came here as a salivating, deprived, imbecile puppet and you go home as a "man". Intelligent, male leadership, unaffected by women is good for the whole world. That includes the women too. And especially families. As I have expressed before, the only reason why they were "given" enormous power is because they are stupid. Therefore do what they are told and buy what they are told. Yes, they are deceived too. You knew that.
Your enemy is not men or women but your own stupidity that empowers women. This is the misery of the world. And your own stupidity you cannot fight with fists or guns. How could you? So, ..." be gentle, lay down your guns, say no to violence against men and fuck the cunts....." Please.
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.....about 10 attractive girls inside...
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He led me inside where about 10 young viet girls sat by the wall. Four or five seemed doable. I had been there before and fucked for $4 but this time he wouldn't go lower than $5 a pop. I made sure that both "yum-yum and boom-boom" was included and picked one. We went to a clean room upstairs, had a shower and she started sucking BB right away. Then I fucked. She was cute. Got $1 tip.
Went down, picked another one, same deal again. Performance fine. By the time we finished the Cambo boys picked all the other pretty ones so I took the "receptionist" girl (well, the one who seemed to be in charge of the others and handled the monies) and fucked it too.
She seemed well pleased to earn $5 plus tip for 20 minutes of easy work. Wasn't the prettiest but slim, young, childless with cute white tits and very cooperative. Possibly the best session of all.
Stealing of monies didn't seem to be an issue here at all. Bathrooms were inside rooms and all doors locked securely from inside. Also the girls were very relaxed and friendly.
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Do you want to fuck more meat?
....then cover up your tattoos and humble yourself...
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Maybe you have been suspecting it for a while that it is not tattoos, paint and muscles that make a "man" as they are trying to teach you at home. That way you only become another "homo-poofter".
What makes you a "man" is that you stop pleasing women by imitating them and trying to "look good". Instead you will "start to stand up for men's issues, for men's freedom and liberty".
You came here as a brainwashed shame, a betrayer of men and you go home as a "real man". You will feel different. Certainly you will not want a "Painted Fuck Object" to become your next president (although being a man your word at home now is zero).
See previous posting:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=556892&postcount=5107[/url]
(I would like to remark that when a traditional asian woman goes to vote she always consults a male friend or relative as she feels too stoopid for this decision. Unlike in the US or Europe.)
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Walking in the dark....
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Decided to continue walking in the dark, reached the riverfront. I have walked before the dark streets of Jakarta, Bangkok, Surabaya, Manila without any troubles so far and wasn't too concerned. Only once got nibbed in Manila - in broad daylight. Phnom Penh is not the worst.
While sitting down for dinner, I was unfortunate enough to share close space with a strange looking couple. 100 year old farang Fuck-Object who looked totally ridiculous with overdone lipstick and lots of gold jewellery and a young Khmer man, who was obviously on her payroll in some way. They were not "friends" but rather employer/employee it seemed.
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100 year old Fuck-Object
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Their conversation centered about some other Khmer man, I gathered. From here on I will just abbreviate "Totally Ridiculous 100 Year Old Fuck-Object" to "TR100YFO" for simplicity.
TR100YFO says: "I want to give him all my heart..." Young Khmer man obediently listens.
TR100YFO continues: "He doesn't understand my feelings...." and doing all the heart-wrecking facial expressions at the same time.
I had to try hard not to vomit. So did the young Khmer man on the payroll, as I read his face. I had an idea: I noticed a slice of pizza thrown in the corner with big red ants crawling on it. When leaving for the toilet, managed to kick it under TR100YFO's chair so that it got positioned right at the chair leg. The ants left the pizza and started crawling up for better food.
"Oh, ouch, arrgh. Itch! Oh the little bastards are biting...." I expected to follow soon, however I did not wait that long. Quickly paid and headed out for Circee bar. Still on foot. There I was in for a big surprise. But that's the next story....
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[QUOTE=Hollow Man]Hmm. I was wondering what hotel has rooms with the most light and cost under $20. Got a new camcorder I wanna try out but the lighting in most rooms is pretty low. Wanna hear your thoughts.[/QUOTE]
I bring my own light. For a variety of reasons I'm tired of the crappy light in Asian hotels including many high-end ones. I carry a couple of 220V 60W bulbs and a couple of cheap clamp-on light bulb fixtures. The same one's the night markets in Thailand and Cambodia use. The total weight is only a few ounces and total cost is a few dollars for a great quality improvement. I change out the 25W bulbs in the rooms with the 60s and maybe use a clamp-on or two.
BTW there's nothing better than natural sunlight coming through the windows for camcorders.
[QUOTE=Waffles]I bring my own light. The total weight is only a few ounces and total cost is a few dollars for a great quality improvement. I change out the 25W bulbs in the rooms with the 60s and maybe use a clamp-on or two.
BTW there's nothing better than natural sunlight coming through the windows for camcorders.[/QUOTE]Waffles you are a genius! The small cost of 2 bulbs would most definitely be worth the improved lighting for more detail and hopefully better color. I was thinking that I may have to go back to Paris hotel which SAD mentions often which I am only so-so on. I have an extreme sense of smell and the Paris bleaches their sheets with some very very strong chemicals. Can't sleep face down without feeling queasy although the view is great and lighting good during the day with such good window views. Hmm LOL problem solved for a dollar. Muchos Gracias. I'll be there in June hopefully will be able to post something then. Lemme know if you're around I'll buy you a drink.
[QUOTE=That Asshole].................
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The brothel was a hotel...
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I got this far in my thinking and decided it was time to move on. Early evening, darkness just set in but still plentiful of light from the shops so I opted for walking. Quietly sneaked away from the hordes of motos and left Sorya shopping centre in Phnom Penh.
The brothel I was looking for is actually a small hotel. However in daytime the gate is firmly locked, no sign of activity. Needless to say it is hotel only in name. Only when night comes they open the doors very slightly to reveal the pink/red lighting inside. Old papa was sitting by the door. I thought about a little joke and asked for a vacant room first........[/QUOTE]Hi there TA,
Novel approach to report writing but can I ask what the name of the hotel is or how to find it?
Hawk
Just thought I would provide an update on ATMs in Phnom Penh, which for me are the only source of money when I visit.
Sorya Centre is known to all Moto Dup drivers and so is an easy place to get to. Until recently the ATMs on the ground and first floors were the only facilities available and so were only available during 'opening hours'. There is now an ATM outside the market and so is available 24hrs.
I have just returned to the UK and the smallest dollar/sterling exchange rate I received was 1.975 (free of all fees) and the highest was 1.993. I am convinced that this is the best option for me.
I am told that there will soon be an ATM in the lobby of the Flamingo Hotel which will make life even more convenient for those of us in the Walkabout area of the city.
Hawk
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Sorya Centre is known to all Moto Dup drivers and so is an easy place to get to. Until recently the ATMs on the ground and first floors were the only facilities available and so were only available during 'opening hours'. There is now an ATM outside the market and so is available 24hrs.
Hawk[/QUOTE]I use the Sorya too but take care when using it. I was followed once after leaving the atm. 2 guys were a little off in the distance so I went up the escalators and kept seeing them in the background. went up to 3 floors then went 1 floor down and saw they were coming down behind me trying to blend in the background. so I knew something was definitely up then so I walked around then took an elevator. this was midday around 11 am or so.
ATM's are good for easy money for us but possibly also for them.
Hollow man
Thanks for the ATM info hawk and howyagoin?
Just a word of warning about the sorya,though.I used the stand alone ATM on the first floor before xmas,not realising that there was one outside the canadia bank on the ground floor.
The ATM stole $200 from me and as I was going to snooky the next day I assumed that i would never see my cash again.I went to the canadia on the ground floor and filed my complaint and worried for the next two weeks in snooky.
As soon as i got back to town I visited the head office full of trepidation yet within five minutes I was assured that my account had been credited with the $200 soon after my complaint.
You could have knocked me over with a feather,this is better service than one receives in australia or NZ.
There are many ATMs at fuel outlets in PP as well and I can imagine when the flamingo gets a machine it will be very popular.
Hi senior here,
Is there any chick for fun at capitol guesthouse?
If not where is the nearest one?
[QUOTE=Ekspat]If she was healthy during this afternoon, then she didn't die of Dengue.
Dengue can kill in some 1% of the cases but not within 2 days.
IMHO.
RIP.[/QUOTE]It's entirely possible. She could have contracted DHF a couple days before the afternoon she spent with him, and could have been just starting to feel a little feverish that day. If one has a weak immune system and doesn't get any medical aid, one can die within five or six days after contracting DHF.
Hi,
Does anyone know if the Hope and Anchor is girlfriendly?
[QUOTE=Xxxrobbe]Hi,
Does anyone know if the Hope and Anchor is girlfriendly?[/QUOTE]Yep, and even a couple of regular gals downstairs if you are lonely.
hi peeps and hobbieiests,
i am planning a solo trip to pp for sampling the local and imported hobbies there. i was wondering about the best place to find the largest range of ages and what area to stay away from.
also i will be flying into bkk ( well thats the plan) i was wondering whats the rough price of a ticket to pp?
cheers,
d
Hi there, this is my firt post on this website, and soon to be many. :)
A mate and I from Canada are planning a trip to PP for our hobbies. I am wondering where is the place place to go to get clean girls, best range of ages/rascis. I have heard about Svay pak, but sounds kinda dodgey. I have also heard about 63st* ( I think) that place sounds like it would be right up my alley.
Well we are planning on going in Jan 08, so I guess we have some time to prepare.
Also I am confused by all the slang terms used on this site for services, is there a site that breaks down the slang?
I hope this is a start to a beautiful friendship.
Domonic
[QUOTE=Etard]Hi there, this is my firt post on this website, and soon to be many. :)
A mate and I from Canada are planning a trip to PP for our hobbies. I am wondering where is the place place to go to get clean girls, best range of ages/rascis. I have heard about Svay pak, but sounds kinda dodgey. I have also heard about 63st* ( I think) that place sounds like it would be right up my alley.[/quote]Try and avoid street 63 as the girls there distract you whilst the pimps put there arm over the door and pickpocket your pants, bars are the cleanest place to pick up girls.
And svay pak, here its best to have a look around of a day time, in the evening the police are watching barangs, [barang is a cambodian word for for foreigners],
Cambodia`s very cheap, $10 to $20 for a woman, have a great time.
Niknoy
I have been to BKK a few times and this time I will have a couple of days in BKK. I was originally thinking of going to Pattaya, but from what I have read so far about PP, this looks like a great place to have some Viet cuties for a very good price. Can any one give me the pros and cons of Pattaya vs PP?
Thanks
For the flight ticket check airasia form Bkk to PP.
[url]http://www.airasia.com/site/en/home.jsp[/url]
I think Svay Pak is close. Has been for two or three years for the barangs.
Maybe open for local population.
[QUOTE=Etard]Hi there, this is my firt post on this website, and soon to be many. :)
A mate and I from Canada are planning a trip to PP for our hobbies. I am wondering where is the place place to go to get clean girls, best range of ages/rascis. I have heard about Svay pak, but sounds kinda dodgey. I have also heard about 63st* ( I think) that place sounds like it would be right up my alley.
Well we are planning on going in Jan 08, so I guess we have some time to prepare.
Also I am confused by all the slang terms used on this site for services, is there a site that breaks down the slang?
I hope this is a start to a beautiful friendship.[/quote]To etade newbie
If you go to the top click the abbrevations and FAQ it will give you info you need and find out what RTTF stand for , Savypak was closed 2 yr ago guess if you read the past post you should of know about that and explain what you mean by clean girl a virgin maybe .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Etard]Also I am confused by all the slang terms used on this site for services, is there a site that breaks down the slang?
Domonic[/QUOTE]Click "Abbreviations" on the top of the menu bar.
There is no abbreviation for RTTF, so can some one tell us what it means, there is a RTFF. mephil
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To etade newbie
If you go to the top click the abbrevations and FAQ it will give you info you need and find out what RTTF stand for , Savypak was closed 2 yr ago guess if you read the past post you should of know about that and explain what you mean by clean girl a virgin maybe .
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Thanx for the flight site, I figure 200cad for a round trip from Bkk to PP is not bad. So the famous svay pak is no more huh? bummer.
And if I do go to 63st I need to :
-A. take minium money with me
-B. uum, devise A may to keep anything personal on my persons.
-C or arrange for a LT maybe?
I dunno I will have a mate with me and we are close, I wouldn't see a problem with me watching the door for him and him watching the door for me. But meh.
Okay other than the hobbies, and the site seeing Whats PP really like?
[QUOTE=Mephil]There is no abbreviation for RTTF...[/QUOTE]Come on, Mephil! Just do as Fast Eddie says: [i]...go to the top [of this page and] click the [b]Abbreviations[/b][/i], and like magic you get a list of abbreviations. In alphabetic order! Just take your time and scroll down. ;)
[QUOTE=Etard]And if I do go to 63st I need to :
-A. take minium money with me
-B. uum, devise A may to keep anything personal on my persons.
-C or arrange for a LT maybe?[/QUOTE]-D or RTFF before you go anywhere.
[QUOTE=Sad Sam]I have been to BKK a few times and this time I will have a couple of days in BKK. I was originally thinking of going to Pattaya, but from what I have read so far about PP, this looks like a great place to have some Viet cuties for a very good price. Can any one give me the pros and cons of Pattaya vs PP?
Thanks[/QUOTE]PP is a lot cheaper, but you don`t have the exitment of the gogo bars that you do in Pattaya and bkk, having said that some bars have girls dance on the bar with clothes on.
I don't understand the interest in street 63 or svay pak.One can meet very nice girls is all the usual venues and do the deed for ten to twenty dollars.
Are you guys all tight arses or what.
If one can speak khmer then all sorts of doors open for very little money but if one is just a tourist then pay the usual money at the usual haunts.
Someone asked what PP is really like.Well,it is filthy and it stinks but the people are really nice and things are pretty cheap.
It is like going back in time to an asia of forty years ago.
I dunno, man I just dont really like picking up girls in bars or clubs. If I wanted to do that I would just stay where I am and go to town every weekend. To be honest I really look down upon girls that hang around in bars tryin to get money/things. But when ou go to a brothel/SW you go for one reason and one only.
Thats just me, I dont mean to offened anyone by my statement or start a rowe.
And thanx for telling me where the abbrevations are, That helps alot for other sites too.
Just another question, How cheap are the recreational drugs there? Including the blue pill. I heard the hash is cheap.
(note to editor "Sorry if this is not allowed I checked the rules and couldn't find anything about this topic there")
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]I don't understand the interest in street 63 or svay pak.One can meet very nice girls is all the usual venues and do the deed for ten to twenty dollars.
Are you guys all tight arses or what.
If one can speak khmer then all sorts of doors open for very little money but if one is just a tourist then pay the usual money at the usual haunts.[/QUOTE]
It was $5 for foreigners at Svay Pak, PH, which is twice as good as $10 and four times as good as $20. Also the service was very good and the girls were very cute, and best of all they were Vietnamese. One time I had four cute girls at Svay Pak for $20 - all about 19, all bareback. I just lay back and let them take turns sucking and then bouncing atop me. Believe me a tear comes to the eye when we who frequented the place think of Svay Pak and what they have done to it. I consider it my own personal 'holocaust'.
Anway, I have no desire to learn to speak Kmer, and I'm tight, not a tight ass. In the States the former is a cheap charley, the latter is a prude.
[QUOTE=Etard]Hi there, this is my firt post on this website, and soon to be many. :)
A mate and I from Canada are planning a trip to PP for our hobbies. I am wondering where is the place place to go to get clean girls, best range of ages/rascis. I have heard about Svay pak, but sounds kinda dodgey. I have also heard about 63st* ( I think) that place sounds like it would be right up my alley.
Well we are planning on going in Jan 08, so I guess we have some time to prepare.
Also I am confused by all the slang terms used on this site for services, is there a site that breaks down the slang?
I hope this is a start to a beautiful friendship.
Domonic[/QUOTE]
Dear Domonic
Please excuse me if I offend, I'm drunk and getting drunker by the keystroake.
You asked where are the best places for clean girls. Consider all girls to be "less than clean." No unprotected sex.
As far as Svay pak goes , it's been closed for a long time and needs to stay closed. The action that went on there was and still is unacceptable. If you're looking for that type of action, you need to stop posting immediately !!
You asked about "slang terms" Read the Forum Friend and you'll soon learn the slang terms. We actually have areas where we suggest NewBees read first.
All of the members will help you BUT you have to do some reading yourself or we'll consider you a R etard.
Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning
[QUOTE=Niknoy]PP is a lot cheaper, but you don`t have the exitment of the gogo bars that you do in Pattaya and bkk, having said that some bars have girls dance on the bar with clothes on.[/QUOTE]I am not so much interested in the go go or dancing scene. I am looking for fair skinned ladies with decent size natural breasts (from what I have read, more likely to be Viets). The question is whether or not they are GFE like the thais or just lie there. I do like the passion and DFK and the whole GFE part. Is that too much to expect in PP?
[QUOTE=Opebo]It was $5 for foreigners at Svay Pak, PH, which is twice as good as $10 and four times as good as $20. Also the service was very good and the girls were very cute, and best of all they were Vietnamese. One time I had four cute girls at Svay Pak for $20 - all about 19, all bareback. I just lay back and let them take turns sucking and then bouncing atop me. Believe me a tear comes to the eye when we who frequented the place think of Svay Pak and what they have done to it. I consider it my own personal 'holocaust'.
Anway, I have no desire to learn to speak Kmer, and I'm tight, not a tight ass. In the States the former is a cheap charley, the latter is a prude.[/QUOTE]
Well all I can say is that you are a prick.Why would you go bareback in cambodia-are you demented as well as being a thoughtless ****.
Lets hope that you never go back there.
[QUOTE=Etard]I dunno, man I just dont really like picking up girls in bars or clubs. If I wanted to do that I would just stay where I am and go to town every weekend. To be honest I really look down upon girls that hang around in bars tryin to get money/things. But when ou go to a brothel/SW you go for one reason and one only.
Thats just me, I dont mean to offened anyone by my statement or start a rowe.
And thanx for telling me where the abbrevations are, That helps alot for other sites too.
Just another question, How cheap are the recreational drugs there? Including the blue pill. I heard the hash is cheap.
(note to editor "Sorry if this is not allowed I checked the rules and couldn't find anything about this topic there")[/QUOTE]
There seems to be an R missing from your moniker,bro.The usual haunts that I refer to are full of free lancers who are only there for one reason-to service you!
Are you still with me,I am not sure that some people here inhabit the same planet as me.
There is no hash,the ganga is cheap but it is rubbish,one can get pretty stoned on happy pizzas and happy shakes.One can roll up and smoke virtually anywhere and of course the blue pills and all their variants are dirt cheap.
I use kamagra gel which costs 75 cents.
Bareback in Cambodia? Man, thats the most dangerous thing to do in Cambodia. The chances of you getting something is even higher than you step on land mines.
I really guess that some people are stuck in their ways. I am going to PP to sleep around with girls I should have roughly 2 months. And I will try all venues, weather it will be a club or free lancer.
As for "Happy" pizza.....damn I guess that ruined my suprise....I really really really didn't know that they made bud pizza's.
To the point that someone had made before about "less" than clean, I all I can say is "DUH!". D'ya really think I want my dick to rub around in all of our ( and then some) sloppy seconds? (No No No, I really don't want to buy a STD (not saying that anyone here would be to blame)).
And someone said 'that kind of action' by what ever do you mean? I just have a thing for asians. I am not looking for any type of action. In fact if I even remotely think I know what your talking about, then you should be the one to stop posting. Because I belive that someone else awhile back posted something about "not much grass on the wicket". To which I am very surprised that it got posted with all the moderation and such going on.
Cheers,
Domonic
"Now please, let us all place nice. I only wanted to get info on PP, not to make war."
[QUOTE=Etard]....And thanx for telling me where the abbrevations are, That helps alot for other sites too....[/QUOTE]Your'e welcome. Next exercise would be to find the [b][i]Search[/i][/b] function.
Happy pizza in Snooky is better than in PP (higher quality herbs) <happy grin>
The comment about "less than clean" was the CITY - not necessarily the ladies. the place is dirtier than ANYWHERE else I have been in the world (and I've been to some shitholes - I've been told it's on a par with the worst in Africa, though, cleanliness wise)
[QUOTE=Etard]
"Now please, let us all place nice. I only wanted to get info on PP, not to make war."[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Etard, 06-01-07]Okay other than the hobbies, and the site seeing Whats PP really like?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Etard, 06-01-07]This is my first time planning a hobbiest trip, I know its not for another 8months but I already have jitters thiking about it.[/QUOTE]Seriously Etard, you should spend part of the 8 months reading [b]all[/b] previous post. There are 1875 in the Phnom Penh thread and another 1200 for the rest of Cambodia. Then you would start to understand what the guys are talking about (= info!). Totally 3000+ posts; you should be able to make it! If you got some time left buy yourself a Lonely Planet. And find some books on the history of Kampuchea/Cambodia.
Jackyung the most dangerous thing you can do in cambodia is to take a moto ride across town in pp. The christian ngo's and others spread false rumors about std rates in cambodia to stop prostitution. befor"äids" punting was a hobby enjoyed by large part of local men, many got scared away, tried to use condoms but couden't so stayed away from p4p scene out of fear. later on westerners showed up on the scene with there bbbj recently the cdc and john hopkins medical center teamed up and claimed condoms don't protect against herepes and hpv.. and thart hpv causes throat cancer. so lets see how effective this campagn turns out(maybee not much after Iraq wmd etc, and other lies by politicans.).
[QUOTE=Lee66].......The christian ngo's and others spread false rumors about std rates in cambodia to stop prostitution. befor"äids" punting was a hobby enjoyed by large part of local men, many got scared away, tried to use condoms but couden't so stayed away from p4p scene out of fear....[/QUOTE]Hi there Lee,
You quote an interesting viewpoint that I had never heard before. Can I ask what your information source is for the habits of locals changing because of HIV and not being able to use condoms. I have always been led to believe that the local brothel scene has been going strongly, albeit that it runs in parrallel to the barang scene and the two hardly ever come into contact with each other.
Hawk
I have read through many reports and did a fair amount of searching and I am a little confused.
It seems like most of the hostess as wel as farang bars (Sophies, Walkabout etc.) generally tend to have girls in the night time. The only day time action seems to be in St 63 brothels but then again there are reports that say they are almost closed to foreigners. Some have said that they are dangerous!
I am a first time visitor to PP and will be looking for some fair skinned Viets for ST action during the day in the $5-$20 range. Any suggestions, especially for a GFE type of service?
[QUOTE=Etard]Thanx for the flight site, I figure 200cad for a round trip from Bkk to PP is not bad. So the famous svay pak is no more huh? bummer.
And if I do go to 63st I need to :
-A. take minium money with me
-B. uum, devise A may to keep anything personal on my persons.
-C or arrange for a LT maybe?
I dunno I will have a mate with me and we are close, I wouldn't see a problem with me watching the door for him and him watching the door for me. But meh.
Okay other than the hobbies, and the site seeing Whats PP really like?[/QUOTE]Just bought a ticket on Air Asia for 3800 baht for this fall. One hour flight time versus humping it by bus. NO Brainer. Later, SB
one good fuck and one even better.....
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riverside heat....
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the riverside is heating up. several (ugly) girls approached me as walking along at night. this might even improve with time and hopefully more pretty ones will show up. there was even some stupid kid clinging to my legs and screaming: "papa, papa i sleep with you, one dollah". not pleasant but rather ridiculous situation as i desperately tried to shake him off while everybody looking at us.
the feminist rulers have fucked this world up a bit. who do you really blame for all those poor old fellas escaping from their home of "woman hell" and trying to find any miserable company they can? yeah, fuck the men, they are bastards. let the women rule, prosecute, reward and lead all. i bought a lipstick for myself. that way they might accept me. at the moment i am too shy to apply it to my face so just rub it around my cock. it gets on their faces sooner or later anyway.
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traditional brothel scene.............
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anyway, i remembered some place i used to visit alongside that road, but way beyond in the darkness, much after you pass the royal palace. i enquired from several moto-guys and finally one said that he knew about it. he told me that the price will be $10, non-negotiable. plus another two for gas. anyway, worth a look so off we went. soon the lights got sparser and we turned into some sidestreets. two cambodian gentlemen greeted us outside and quickly three girls turned up. two viets just barely passable (i am very spoiled by now, someone else might think they were princesses), and one very pretty khmer chicken. it had to be that one. i had to pay up-front, which is very stupid but they seemed friendly enough so i did not object. the room was barely basic, dimly lit and with a shower-cubicle in one corner. something like you would keep your pigs at home.
i didn't wash but she washed her snatch and quickly was standing before me wearing just a thin silver chain around her very shapely waist. brown skin, perfect slim figure, cute smiling face with only a small rot in one front tooth. easily could be fixed for $50 (dentists are cheap here) but thankfully she cannot afford it so she will stay humble and subservient for ever. suck was no-no, but we did a bit of mutual massage and her youthful skin was wonderfully velvet-smooth. nice personality too.
the only english words she knew were "tip" at the end of the session and "sank you" as i managed to scrape together 3000 riel (75c) worth of change, and was followed by a big farewell kiss. i used to give them $2, now usually only give $1 but really might just cut it down to 75c. that's enough for a lollipop. otherwise all their needs are met, they are well fed, clothed and sheltered. plus they have the joy of serving ugly old men and that's priceless and money can't buy. the joy of good service.
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brothel wedding....
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service was so good that the thought of marrying her crossed my mind. of course i would propose to her parents and offer the handsomely gift of 5 cows and 3 pigs which they wouldn't refuse. i would let her into my room once a week, the other days she would have to spend in the laundry. i would be busy with other meat from the brothels on other days. she would have to cook, clean the house and do the washing by hand. it is important to keep them humble so that their head doesn't grow too big (and ego). that way she will appreciate the one day when she is allowed to entertain me (or my friends). if there are any puppies, the men would be trained to be rulers and the rest servants and brothel-stock, until some other gentleman offers me some 5 cows and 3 pigs to buy them from me (after all i must be compensated for the troubles of keeping them).
so, the fuck was good enough but the best fuck was left for the end of the day in very curious circumstances. it was rather joyful for me, beyond the usual joy i get from meat. and please note here gentlemen the following: "there are more than one ways to fuck a woman!" details follow:
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more than one ways to fuck....
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arriving back at the hotel i started discussing the next days itinerary with a couple of drivers when my attention was drawn to a heated argument at the reception desk.
"i do not feel safe! i want my money back!" roared the meat. that is the blonde female bimbo from "whoknowswhere scandinavia". these guys have a rather dark skin complex but the receptionist's head was totally black this time from anger, taken aback by how this "meat", this lowlife treated him. he also kept pointing to a sign saying "no refunds" but the scando fucker wouldn't accept that.
politeness goes a long way around here, obviously what she knew nothing about. pretty much turning all of the men present against her. i could imagine that in such a situation a local woman would have been the unhappy recipient of a big smack or more right over the head (well, a local woman would have never gotten into that situation anyway in the first place). what kept this guy from such disciplinary action was the fucker's foreign status and possibly the presence of another foreigner "man" in the room.
likely, by being polite but persuasive she would have gotten her money back but this way it was totally hopeless, humiliating all hotel staff. in final desperation she glanced at me with a smile (wow! a blonde fucker smiled at me! must be some reason for it!), as if urging "do something, you are same as me!". this of course made me very-very angry. my immediate thought was: "you are not going to manipulate me with your ****, you fuck-meat! i am not same with you in any way. i am same as these cambodian gentlemen you insulted."
but all i said: "guys, five bucks for anyone grabbing a handful of ass for himself." nobody volunteered.
"ten dollars!?" i pushed the issue. couple of guys hesitantly rose with an unbelieving smile. is that real? ten bucks for grabbing a dog's ass?
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unity.......noble unity.....
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however that fucker must have heard it as she made such a quick move you never saw a blonde **** move so quick. even left the hope of her refund behind in a hurry. it was so funny. we all laughed. yes gentlemen, this is what i mean by "there are more than one ways to fuck a woman". this was the best fuck of all. she couldn't divide us with her ****. we the men supported each other and won. it was so funny and educational as well. let this example grow and reach all segments of the world in every ****'ry. unity gentlemen, "unity" is the key to your freedom from meat.
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being "rational" about women...
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to be just, we must admit that only "us" the regular "sex-tourists" can ever be able to rationally think about women. ordinary, deprived men can never-ever hope to be able to. because only we are "not deprived", while most of other men serve in yoke. when you are hungry all that matters is "eat, eat!". that's why purposeful deprivation works. you will sell even your soul for food, some morsel of affection, some "meat".
i met this blonde fucker one more time some days later. she was walking the road with another farang woman. she must have recognised me and said to the other "that asshole again!" and they quickly crossed to the other side. all that amazed me was: how did she knew my name?
*********** to be continued ***********
[Quote=Sad Sam]
I am a first time visitor to PP and will be looking for some fair skinned Viets for ST action during the day in the $5-$20 range. Any suggestions, especially for a GFE type of service?
[/Quote]
Though not a PP expert, my thoughts are to go to 63st with $5 only in your pocket. Nothing else, no watch, camera, passport, money, etc. Go to #99D on 63rd st, and you will find 10 or so Viets for ST. It is not dangerous. Having stuff stolen is the only issue. Lock the door so they won’t go through your clothes.
Or try the 2 brothels on 154st (south side) just to the west of Norodom Blvd. Here you will need $10. Same deal with leaving all your goodies back at the hotel.
Or maybe try the Chip Lay Massage right next to Walkabout. One poster here said it is $3/hr for massage and $6 for BJ. I’ve never been there, so can’t confirm.
These places are easily accessible on foot if you are staying at the Flamingo($20usd.night).
Good luck with the GFE! For GFE it is better to go to Sharkeys or Martini’s at night time
Hey sam,if you stay at the flamingo there is a consatant stream of ladies leaving the place pretty well all day.
It is not uncommon for ladies to get an an offer as they are leaving the premises and to turn around and go straight back upstairs.
There are some lovely sights every day of the passing parade.
Prince Harry,
What you suggest we call sloppy seconds?
I don't care what you call it bro,but plenty of chaps seize the opportunity.Hundreds of satisfied customers cant be wrong.
Islandboy54
Sloppy seconds, sloppy thirds... either way you look at it, its gonna be sloppy! I aint counting.
Ride on Prince Harry!
Hi there. Will be making my first trip in September. Realise it will be the rainy season, so would appreciate it if anyone could advise whether this makes a big difference regarding the ladies? More importantly, I presume all the prices in these reports refer to US $? Also, I presume the payments to the girls are in Riels and not actually in US$? If not, is it because they don't accept Riels or that the price goes up if they are paid in local currency? Does this also apply to all other businesses? On a slightly irrevelant note, do all departure taxes and visa fees have to be in US$ or do they accept Riels?
Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks,
Donnylad
Everything is paid in any currency besides the Riel .
You will can change back in Riel.
[QUOTE=Donnylad]Hi there. Will be making my first trip in September. Realise it will be the rainy season, so would appreciate it if anyone could advise whether this makes a big difference regarding the ladies? More importantly, I presume all the prices in these reports refer to US $? Also, I presume the payments to the girls are in Riels and not actually in US$? If not, is it because they don't accept Riels or that the price goes up if they are paid in local currency? Does this also apply to all other businesses? On a slightly irrevelant note, do all departure taxes and visa fees have to be in US$ or do they accept Riels?[/QUOTE]There should still be plenty of girls to find (although when there is higher demand, there tends to be higher supply in some places like Martini Bar).
Reports refer to $US.
All my girls have asked for $US - small tips/bike fare can be in Riel.
In PP, dollars are readily accepted in virtually any retail outlet, hotel, softdrink vendor, market place etc.
Same goes for SV.
You are more likely to arrive with $US than Riel (do not change currency before you arrive) and they prefer dollars anyway (THB or other currencies will cost more).
On departure, if you are looking to get rid of your last few thousand Riel, then the departure tax office will accept it towards the $25 total. There is a decent coffee shop in the departure lounge which is a handy way to spend the last of your cash also.
[QUOTE=Donnylad] Does this also apply to all other businesses? On a slightly irrevelant note, do all departure taxes and visa fees have to be in US$ or do they accept Riels? [/QUOTE]
Hotels, Restaurants, Ladies, Arrival and Departure fee, all is paid in USD.
Only payments less than 1 USD is in Riel eg. 1000 Riel for a short moto-ride.
Take care, mate!
Cheers!
Air Asia Bangkok to Phnom Penh was only 499 baht. WOOO! and now at the PP airport there is a sign that says $2 taxi-Moto to Central Market. worked good for me. took me to CM then directed him to my hotel and added an extra $1 for a total $3 from airport to hotel. $2 is the standard price locals pay. amazing fairness.
first week spent $15 in moto rides just checking out hotels
Paris $15 (kampuchea Krom near CM) fridge tv ac
- Nice clean basic. no terrible bleaching like last time. great window view on upper floors. didnt like male staff. they are the hungry eyed folk that dont make me feel comfortable. you know the type that is very apparent they want your money. they said the massage thing is gone. didnt confirm. decent location and near a lucky market.
Asia $15 (ask for discount to lower price) fridge tv ac
- VERY NICE room for the money. no views. window opens to nothing. Staff is indifferent. they are the ok type that cater to chinese. quiet staff. restaurant there. good location. near stores.
Big Luck $25 (ask discount) fridge tv ac
- 1.5m swimming pool. dry/steam sauna. massage. all on 6th floor roof for $2 each. $6 norm massage. guy downstairs can get a girl to your room for special massage. rooms are lovely with best super wide windows for view. clean and home feel with hoter water thing/fridge/ laundry basket. they replenish your bathroom things like soap daily. excellent staff. breakfast included but you can substitute pool or something. stay in top floors.
Royal heiness $10 (ask discount have to be persistent) fridge tv ac
- dark hotel on a dark street. staff guy who is very helpful. My friend swears by this place and I think it's an ok spot. they try to please.
J-Hotel $15 fridge tv ac
- mostly asians. hotel shrank. they added a casino/club of some sort to it. Honolulu. decent staff. I enjoyed room very much. very clean. bad location. not near anything except alot of other clubs. Parrot and x2
Hotel Deauville $10 (ask discount) fridge tv ac
- great location near CM, sorya, brothels EVERYTHING. bad thing is it's a little run-down and obvious red lights everywhere in hallways. connect to mikado club. good staff. embarassing to bring any normal people here. other guests are... well red light type place.
Chip lay hotel. $13 (possible discount though the fucker wouldn't budge) fridge tv ac
- connected to walk-a-bout. I like the rooms which had a Deauville feel without the red lights. massage in hotel. $20 a pop though may be poss to get it for $15. near shanghai/walkabout/brothels/ and plenty of friendly motos. 2 blocks to lucky market and 3.5 to Sorya Mall
Flamingos $20 (no freakin way yer getting a discount. always booked) fridge tv ac
- enough has been said. top notch hotel. LOVE the rooms. I went here to stay when i got the flu and wanted comfort. near walkabout.
Walk-a-bout $8
- ummm. dont stay here. good for short time. pick a lady and go upstairs for an hour $5.
Lakeside guesthouses $1-$8.
- backpacker area with good food (have to know where) and plenty of packers to talk to. cheap and now ladies can be found here as well. guess they are putting up with it for the business aspect. Blind massages and friendly bars. Great indian food. CHEAP AREA. Low on dough can go here for friendliness. more guesthouses have opened and the roads are paved and drivable. Still is a occasional smell from the lake. Lake is going to be filled up and the lakeside area has been LEASED. all the guesthouses will be gone in a couple of years. sad. I'll miss it.
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Brothels.
St 63 there there. foreigners tend to go to 99D. better selection there i agree but i dont frequent it. St 154 has plenty now as well. also the next street up. I forget the name (81?) has khmer looking girls. will try later. $5 on spot $10 takeaway for me. im chinese type. white people $10 pop $20 take away. the sarting pricew they quote is $40. be firm with a smile. prices drop quick when you walk towards the exit.
Tol Kouk still there, but dirty dirt road and dark neighborhood. offbeaten track type.
Kien Svay is nice. I like it. restaurant for food and they will bring girl to you. still looking for the blue houses. If anyone can help me find that would eb helpful. Bring english speaking moto you trust. no english here all khmer.
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Freelancer bars.
SOB SOB SOB. quality has dropped considerably. SOB SOB SOB. Found out my favorites got married or have western BF. Still the same old viets there. some new faces but not many worthwhile ones. Depends on your taste.
Pick-up a visitor guide in any bar for listing of bars and map.
Martinis.
Same same. prices have gone up kinda. costs have gone up but the girls will still take $10. they rather 15. ST. LT still 20-30.
Sharky.
Same same. wont bother explaining what has been spoken of plenty of times. quality down. Khmer stretchmarks are the soup of the day. tsk tsk. check the belly guys. rub the belly for lines first. khmer tits actually completely deflate after childbirth.
Golden Vine
Girls dance on tables every 30 min. fast jiggling is nice. girls are super duper friendly. $5 barfine place. avg looks 5-7 girls.
Heart of Darkness
Less ladyboys, thank god. dance club. girls go here to have fun and dance (good). really late 2-3am girls go here as last chance to pickup if they failed in other bars. hit n miss. wide range including tourist chicks here.
Riverside
More Riverside girls available. Interesting. take care that the riverside has alot opf druggy chicks that sleep there. take care you dont pick up more than you bargained for. more NGO's afoot. best food/bars though and plenty of tourists to chat.
Getting tired. To be continued.
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[QUOTE=Donnylad]Hi there. Will be making my first trip in September. Realise it will be the rainy season, so would appreciate it if anyone could advise whether this makes a big difference regarding the ladies? More importantly, I presume all the prices in these reports refer to US $? Also, I presume the payments to the girls are in Riels and not actually in US$? If not, is it because they don't accept Riels or that the price goes up if they are paid in local currency? Does this also apply to all other businesses? On a slightly irrevelant note, do all departure taxes and visa fees have to be in US$ or do they accept Riels?
Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks,
Donnylad[/QUOTE]
It is worth noting that no distinction is made between dollars and riels in Cambo... you go to the supermarket and both prices come up on the register, often you will get change in a mixture of both... there is a standard exchange rate that everybody just knows - in places with cash registers $1 = 3950 Riels, for everyone else, $1 = 4000 Riels. The dollar is in all ways that matter the national currency and the Riel is simply a proxy for it. Unlike places like Vietnam, you don't get a worse deal negotiating in dollars.
The exchange rate may have changed...
Basically, they don't have coins. U.S. paper money is the national currency, and Riels are used to make change on a dollar. 1000 Reils = 25 cents.
The best advice is to have U.S. currency in small bills. Breaking a $100 U.S. is quite difficult except at banks. It's good to have U.S. $1s, $5s, and $20s.
And the "on the street" rate is about 4080 more or less (money changers)
4000:1 is the "normal" number - get about $20 in Riel and use them to save maybe 2%
WORD OF WARNING - Every bill must have no rips tears or nicks. Even a small wear on the face of a $1 is enough to have them NOT TAKE IT. I took "new" bills with me and had no problems, but in my wallet, I had 2 with slight nicks - I had to bring those home and spend them later. For the thickness of the pile, you are better off to have nothing larger than $5 (except for the $20 to enter at the airport). Takes up a bit more room, but no shortchanging whatever if you pay in $1 bills or 1+5. Riel is worthless outside cambo except as things to give nieces and grandkids.
Thanks for all the feedback guys. As a Brit, it is a slight inconvenience to have take US$. I'm presuming here that all ATMS only dispense Riels? I'm also presuming from all your comments, that people will accept Riels in any situation, but it is more cumbersome to carry the notes around?
Cheers,
Donnylad
[QUOTE=Donnylad]Thanks for all the feedback guys. As a Brit, it is a slight inconvenience to have take US$. I'm presuming here that all ATMS only dispense Riels? I'm also presuming from all your comments, that people will accept Riels in any situation, but it is more cumbersome to carry the notes around?
Cheers,
Donnylad[/QUOTE]
ATMs dispense U.S. dollars. There's not enough room in an ATM cash cassette to hold enough Riels to be of any use. But good luck finding ATMs. There might be a couple of dozen of them in the whole country. Maybe 3 or 4 in Siem Reap, maybe a dozen of them in PP, all of these will be in front of Banks.
[QUOTE=Member #2041]ATMs dispense U.S. dollars. There's not enough room in an ATM cash cassette to hold enough Riels to be of any use. But good luck finding ATMs. There might be a couple of dozen of them in the whole country. Maybe 3 or 4 in Siem Reap, maybe a dozen of them in PP, all of these will be in front of Banks.[/QUOTE]
Not quite the case in Phnom Penh. The last reliable count I saw on ATM's was approaching 40 across the (relatively small) city. There are ATM's not only at major banks but also at Caltex petrol stations, along the Riverside and also at major shopping centres. You are never far from cash in PP these days provided you've got funds available in your account!
[QUOTE=Member #2041]ATMs dispense U.S. dollars. There's not enough room in an ATM cash cassette to hold enough Riels to be of any use. But good luck finding ATMs. There might be a couple of dozen of them in the whole country. Maybe 3 or 4 in Siem Reap, maybe a dozen of them in PP, all of these will be in front of Banks.[/QUOTE]Please do a search for my previous posts which offer some up-to-date and accurate information relating to ATMs in Phnom Penh.
Any Brit travelling abroad, including Cambodia, should get themselves a bank account with Nationwide to obtain the very best of deals for foreign currencies.
Hawk
Thanks yet again. Well, that does make things easier. It's the first time I've come across a country whose ATM's don't dispense their own currency!!
Cheers,
Donnylad
I've been in china a while and just know found a internet cafe with no censorship. regarding the local scene, I was including thailand etc. and the time period was in the early 1980"s before aids was in sea. Info came from me talking to locals who speak at least some english, mainly in mae sai, tachilik and bangkok in mid 1990's. while it is true the whites and local monger scene is seperate, the whites begain there bbbj in mass after 2002 or so. locals don't go in for that, just still a quick fuck and no tip.
I'm going to be in Phnom Penh from June 22 through 26. It will be my first time in Cambodia, but I've been to other parts of SE Asia. I'd like to find a girl friendly hotel that costs under $50 USD a night. I know people have recommended Flamingo's, but I'd like to have a bath tub or at least an enclosed shower area in the bathroom. I don't like the whole bathroom getting wet when I shower. I read somewhere that Flamingo's doesn't have the bath tub/shower stall arrangement. Also, I'm a bit leery after seeing several posts about theft being an issue there.
Any recommendations? Thanks for the advice.
Lots of PP stuff here today-good.
Yes,there are heaps of ATMs now.
And to go in september-great.Apparently PP ot mian barang right now and there will still be no barang in september-beauty=cheap prices and willing women.
Quality is declining though as more women find western boyfriends/sponsors.
I know this as my very desirable girlfriend is another who has gone straight.
I will be in PP next week and i can provide a birds eye view of cambodia in the wet season.
I expect that things will be hot and sticky for me and the weather will be like that as well.
[QUOTE=Member #1344]I'm going to be in Phnom Penh from June 22 through 26. It will be my first time in Cambodia, but I've been to other parts of SE Asia. I'd like to find a girl friendly hotel that costs under $50 USD a night. I know people have recommended Flamingo's, but I'd like to have a bath tub or at least an enclosed shower area in the bathroom. I don't like the whole bathroom getting wet when I shower. I read somewhere that Flamingo's doesn't have the bath tub/shower stall arrangement. Also, I'm a bit leery after seeing several posts about theft being an issue there.
Any recommendations? Thanks for the advice.[/QUOTE]Ro member #1344
Try the ASIA hotel the delux room have bath tub room cost $15-25 usd gf hotel and the manger ask me if I want girl for LT 35 usd but I like to go out and find my own , they also offer free pick up form the airport I have post info a few month ago do a search .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Ro member #1344
Try the ASIA hotel the delux room have bath tub room cost $15-25 usd gf hotel.
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]Small add. Umm. The ASIA rooms are impeccably white and clean for the price and although it does have a bathtub. No shower curtain in my room or the other room I looked at. Bathroom floor will get wet. However they place an extra thick towel for bathroom mat so my room itself is never wet. Very comfy and clean. Big Luck ($25) has the shower curtains and better views but facilities aren't as new as Asia. More home feel. (older model AC's)
I stayed here twice, only $10, pool table on first floor, which is widewith a nice grand staircase. Alas it is run down, but the rooms are big, clean and there is hot water. Yeah the street is dark at night but it is safe. Lots of drivers sleepthere/hang out all night, Also on 172 is GThe Last Home Guest Hoise. Charming looking with be-fast on the sidewalk in the am!
Stay on scond floor (everywhere! ), I was on 4th and the room across from ours was set on fire by a drunk at 4 am! Thought I'd die, fire dept keystone cops-ish!
But I went back!
Search the classifieds for my recon a great driver on this street.
Went to Chip Lay next to Walkabout. Thanks Prince Harry for the directions and advice. Went straight to the 5th floor and into the room with the fishbowl. About 30+ girls in the late afternoon there. Picked # 39, Sra.
Went to a room down the hall with her. Room ok for ST. Nothing great. Showered in the bathroom together. Then went to the bed. Went straight for the sex, no massage. Sra is about 5'7" and 33Bs. Doesn't speak english but a couple of words. But she is very nice looking.
Get into the bed and she strats to kiss me and work her way down to sucking on my nipples. Then on down for a bbbj until I was hard. Not any great skills, just enough to get me up.
Then she capped me and CG for about 5 - 10 minutes before she did CG and sucking on my nipples back and forth at the same time. Then to mish, flipped her over for doggie, back to CG, and then back to mish until I came.
I am pretty sure she came 3 times. I asked her and she said yes because after I came she had me continue pumping for a few more minutes and felt her tremble this time.
Tried to talk a little, cuddled, and then showered again. Very good GFE. I would repeat. Gave her $20 and the massage was $4.
After Chip Lay, went to Barbados a couple of hours later. It was early evening around 6 pm. Met a very pretty 22 yo Khmer girl. She is about 5'7" and had a great personality. Drank beers with her and bought her lady drinks. Lady drinks were $3. My beers were $1.25 each.
Being there early got to watch all of the girls come in and change and get all primped up for the evening. It was alot of fun talking with some of them as they changed from jeans into dresses and others helping each other get their hair and faces all made up.
After an hour of chit chat, went to a guest house a few buildings down the road with the 22 yo. Guesthouse was worse than Walkabout. Cost $10 even for ST. They wouldn't budge. Oh well, I wanted the 22 yo too much and the girlfriend was back in the hotel room.
Got in the room and we washed up. Layed down on the bed and started kissing each other all over. Kissing made me stiff, so capped and started in mish with her. After missh doggie and then back again. Must of been about 30 minutes before I came since it was my 2d time that day. She had a really nice fitting pussy. I will find her again.
We didn't even talk money the entire time. I just put $20 in her pocket book and she didn't even look. Back to Barbados for 1 more drink and back to the hotel to the girlfriend.
Thanks Hollow Man for your reviews on the hotels in PP. Find your reviews on the Big Luck very helpfull and plan on staying there in Oct. Big Luck has their prices listed on their homepage and will print them out to take with me.
I've noticed in Central and South America they will quote you one price and when you show up they will try to upcharge. They tried this on me my last trip to costa rica and having the printed quote saved me a few quid.
Later, SB
Boys, I am sitting here at a coffeehouse in Canada doing research and d/ling music. Across from me a beautiful little package of a girl has sat down with her chemistry books, her denim mini skirt, smooth legs, and beautiful breasts framed by her bikini (? ) top underneath a sweatshirt with zipper pulled down oh so revealing. She just headed off to class.
God I miss Cambodia
After now reading all the posts on PP, I feel somewhat better prepared before going on my trip in November this year.
Just a few questions, perhaps someone will clarify for me if it is rainy-season in November?
Will there be a lot of barang (tourists) visiting PP in November.
Maybe there is not much change in number of tourists visiting Cambodia?
Anyway thank you all for all the great and informative reports, it really helps a lot?
[QUOTE=First Lover]After now reading all the posts on PP, I feel somewhat better prepared before going on my trip in November this year.
Just a few questions, perhaps someone will clarify for me if it is rainy-season in November?
Will there be a lot of barang (tourists) visiting PP in November.
Maybe there is not much change in number of tourists visiting Cambodia?
Anyway thank you all for all the great and informative reports, it really helps a lot?[/QUOTE]To first lover,
Nov to Feb is dry season and also high season is still hot but not as humid , there will be alot of tourist in Dec - Jan air fare and hotel is higher and that is the case for most of south east asia.
Fast eddie 48
I'll chuck in my two cents worth,bro.
Is november rainy season,maybe?
The rain should have stopped,but the monsoons go on a little later nowadays I think in the tropics.Certainly the major rains seem to come sept/october with flooding and stuff.But the wet seasons are nice,the country side is green and the city much less dusty.I went for the first time last june and it was great,a little bit of rain but fairly cool and i go back next week to much the same,apparently.
Phnom penh can be 33 to 38 with 88% humidity but sihanoukville showery and 29,november could be similar.But the remarkable thing in phnom penh is how quickly it cools off in the early evening ,and mornings are lovely.
As for numbers of tourists,up 50% again probably the last year-most to siem riep though.
chip lay is also a hotel - $13/night. room was ok and on 6th floor, not much if any noise. interesting that the massage staff seems to reside on the roof and pass thru in both directions (up/down). they are available but didn't seem interested in "overnight work" - just "st". chip lay is right arond the corner from walkabout (walkabout room was $3 less, but with a rather large bag it would have made the trip up/down "difficult" - chip lay has a lift - was it worth the $3? your call yes/no) good location - lots of action and hi-speed internet most with skype available for 3000r/hour on street 51. i didn't have the albatross (the laptop) with me last trip but i don't think they can accommodate them in most if any places (had the same trouble in i-net cafes in thailand btw - use their machine - just security issues with someone else's machine)
i've tried royal highness - there are actually 2 of them almost side by side. the "better " one is in the $20 range, the lesser one is 5 to 10 (5 gets you a fan room up high - narrow winding staircase) the doors don't have any particular security and in the rooms with twin beds, one is "soft" the other is about as hard as a board. ac worked well the times i tried it. the main trouble with the location is that one might get "lost" easily the first time or 2 out - they had a map at the desk which helped quite a bit.
for a good on-line map (as well as being able to find the place you want) go to
[url]http://www.yellowpages-cambodia.com/maps/phnompenh/[/url]
the maps are "zoomable" and depending on your screen resolution easily readable. the "yellow pages" feature lets you look up places by name and city. the maps illustrate the crazy quilt layout of streets and street numbering in pp.
word of additional advice - i use firefox and "image zoom" add-on. it lets you enlarge those maps to "readable" size easily
Tried my hand at massage parlors. Very disappointing especially when compared to Thailand. Hell compared to Vietnam too! Girls doing massages I find are. Hmm. I had to walk out of 2 of them.
Bun Pav (Khmer) had a few ok ones and they asked for 20-30. $4 for massage. Too the prettiest face who asked for $25. Said ok due to Mr. Johnson thinking for me. She wanted lights off because she had a baby. Oh dear.
Sakura hotel massage. A little better but was refused boom boom. I am a little bigger than normal but still. Others have fared better than me here.
Angkor Thom on minivong you'll actually get a good massage sauna. My friend got a BBBJ and loved it. $10 tip. Was next to my normal female friend so I didn't sample myself.
Chip Lay Hotel massage. Walked out after 30 seconds of viewing the good. S 15-16 girls were shown. (Shudder)
Hope to sample some more later but doing the tourist thing with friends so it's getting harder for me.
Brothels. Sigh. They are now friendlier to all and prices are $5 a pop. $10 take to hotel. They've cleaned up the facilities and even have a massage like viewing room. ST 63/154.HOWEVER- If you want to stay on the right side of the law I advise against. The Chinese age adds 2 years to the real age so if they say they are 20 then they are 18. Ahem etc. Stick with the older girls to stay safe. By older I mean 20-25 since none are older than 25. Toul Kok rooms are far too dirty for me. I mean real real dark wooden shack. Hurry up man type.
So far the brothel and massage girls I find are cleaner than freelancers. Be/M's wash constantly which is appreciated. There is no GFE though. Its only a release. In the brothels you get pestered for a $1 tip form the door dude. I laugh it off. Up to you though.
DRAMA. Saw a few guys who fell in love with freelancers. Jesus christ. I can't believe this crap still happens. One showed me the messages she sent him. The other always worries if she's ok. He was actually hugging her and smiling at the bar all happy. I dint have the heart to tell him she was holding onto my johnson and tugging it at the same time. I've gone clubbing/dancing with this particular one though I've never taken her. So many girls available everywhere nowadays. The Sorya Mall is a pickup place too. See slutty girl walking around. She's probably available or you can set-up a tryst later when she's done shopping. Funny as shit me saying Hi to one as she was walking with a farang. She waved back. He turned to her as the kept walking "Hey! Did you fuck him? " *No No No. He only friend* I snicker and continue to next escalator. More brothels abound. I can even bothel myself to check them out. There's a red light barber across the street from Sharkey's too. I mean every freakin' where.
Power outages daily. Few times a day. Its the low season. It's HOT/RAINY season. I'll be hitting Sihanouk soon but with friends in tow I don't know what I can find out. We'll see. We'll see.
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Went to Chip Lay at around 6pm. #39 taken by somebody. I must have given too good of report on her :)
Tried #7. She is young inexperienced and not GFE. Just a plain old pain in the ass. Will never see her again. No need to go into the specifics. You all can guess what it was like from the begining negotiations to the end. :(:(
Would I go back - yes ! ! Get another like # 39 I would ! !
Cheers, T.
Hey hollow man,show some respect and learn to speak some khmer.You will have a much better time.
My Cambodian friends took me to a Hotel with Karaoke and Restaurant. It was very nice. It is the same place they took me before the last 2 times I was here.
We went into the VIP room and they gave me two girls who I sat down between. For the next 90 minutes the girls fed me and gave me beer and wine to drink. I didn't touch a utensil once.
But there was drama. I had two new girls with me. One of the girls froim the previous two times and who I took home with me before or she came over on her days off came into the room and tried to shew/shoo away the two girls. The manager, who was also there in the room kept everything under control.
After eating we did karaoke and dancing. While slowly dancing with the new 22 yo I was with, she started getting friendly and kissing. After awhile of this she shot the other who was trying to get me back a look of "I won". The other of the original two gave up in the drama after the first hour when the other manager who is freinds of the one I was with before got her to give up. But the other 22 yo wouldn't give up.
After about 3 hours, went to the 5th floor with the 22 yo for fun :):). Of course my friends did not let me pay and the fun was booked to the VIP room. Got to the room and we got the AC on and showered and then into the bed.
The girl was inexperienced, but I didn't care. She was sweet and this was a GFE. Kissed her tits and then DATY. Seems her first DATY. She came about 10 minutes later. Then she brought me up and kissed me and my nipples while using her hand to get me hard. Once hard, entry, and was she tight. Thank Buddha for lubrication. Did a good 15 minutes in mish and doggie before I cum.
After cum, cuddling and kissing and cuddling. We both washed up and went back to the VIP room to applause.
Now with the "ice" broken with the girl from before, another girl sat next to me and tried to also pick me up. It was heaven being in the VIP room with 3 girls wanting your attention. The one from before got me on the dance floor for slow songs and kissed me trying to win over my favors. Then the other 2 would do the same.
Evening came to an end and off we went. Great time and I didn't spend anything this time. Of course before I have taken care of things in other venues for them too.
So will see which if the 3 respond to text messages today.
Can anyone out there confirm whether or not Billabong is GF or not? Any help would be highly appreciated.
Thanks.
Harry - I speak quite a bit of Thai. Did me no good whatever in Kampuchea. trouble is that 1 tonal language is "difficult" -2 might be "overwhelming".
Reading Khmer is no picnic either - some of the letters are almost the same as Thai, but those extra squiggles are "troublesome". I've been told that Khmer more closely resembles Sanskrit than Thai (but both share the common root).
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Ro member #1344
Try the ASIA hotel the delux room have bath tub room cost $15-25 usd gf hotel and the manger ask me if I want girl for LT 35 usd but I like to go out and find my own , they also offer free pick up form the airport I have post info a few month ago do a search .
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]And elevator
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Harry - I speak quite a bit of Thai. Did me no good whatever in Kampuchea. trouble is that 1 tonal language is "difficult" -2 might be "overwhelming".
Reading Khmer is no picnic either - some of the letters are almost the same as Thai, but those extra squiggles are "troublesome". I've been told that Khmer more closely resembles Sanskrit than Thai (but both share the common root).[/QUOTE]Hi Dinghy,
My understanding is that Khmer is not tonal. Doesn't use Romanised script and has some very strange sound combinations but isn't actually tonal.
I am determined to master the basics before my return in September and may even take a lady friend for a few friends with the intention of her telling me the bits I get wrong.
Hawk
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Harry - I speak quite a bit of Thai. Did me no good whatever in Kampuchea. trouble is that 1 tonal language is "difficult" -2 might be "overwhelming".
Reading Khmer is no picnic either - some of the letters are almost the same as Thai, but those extra squiggles are "troublesome". I've been told that Khmer more closely resembles Sanskrit than Thai (but both share the common root).[/QUOTE]
Khmer is not a tonal language but the difficult in speaking it lies (in the eyes of a Westerner) in weird consonant clusters, e.g. Psah Chah (you have to say the "h") for Old Market or "knyom" (no silent "k" here) for "I". Those squiggles are mostly "sub-consonants" written under main consonants when such sounds are after together.
Thai will serve you all right in certain areas of Western Cambodia but much less useful the further east you go. Incidently, all numbers in Cambodian above 3 are all Thai. Thai also borrowed a lot from Cambodian.
Both alphabets are ultimately derived from alphabets developed in India.
Thailand, Cambodia, and Laos are the "Indo" part of "Indo-China". Vietnam is much more influenced by China. They abandoned their Chinese-inspired writing system in favour of the Latin alphabet which was adapted to Vietnamese by French missionaries, believe it or not. That explains why Vietnam is the odd man out as far as alphabets are concerned.
Uh... KHMER IS INDEED TONAL ACCORDING TO THE FOLKS I KNOW!! I know several Khmer in the US and they INSIST it's tonal. My Thai teacher speaks some khmer and he says it's tonal as well (just not as extensive as Thai). I'll talk to one of my Khmer friends in depth and ask him.
Speaking of languages - Lao is to Thai like Portugese is to Spanish - similar but not exactly the same. Some of the words don't mean the same and several letters have different "names". Isaan is a strange combination of thai/lao/khmer languages
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Uh... KHMER IS INDEED TONAL ACCORDING TO THE FOLKS I KNOW!! I know several Khmer in the US and they INSIST it's tonal. My Thai teacher speaks some khmer and he says it's tonal as well (just not as extensive as Thai). I'll talk to one of my Khmer friends in depth and ask him.
Speaking of languages - Lao is to Thai like Portugese is to Spanish - similar but not exactly the same. Some of the words don't mean the same and several letters have different "names". Isaan is a strange combination of thai/lao/khmer languages[/QUOTE]Khmer is certainly NOT a tonal language. A tonal language means that the very tone of a word directly affects the meaning. For example, in Thai, glai and glâi are only differentiated by the tone. The former means far while the latter means close. In Chinese, mai (third tone) means buy while mai (fourth tone) means sell. This is NOT the case in Khmer. Tones only add nuance, not lexical meaning.
For example, in English, The GIRLS go to school and "The girls GO to school" and "The girls go to SCHOOL" are differentiated by emphasizing what is important. However, no one would say that English is a tonal language.
Ask any linguist whether Khmer is a tonal language. Ordinary Khmers probably know no more about their language than English-speakers know about theirs (how many English-speakers know what a phrasal verb is or what a cleft sentence is?).
I mentioned that all Khmer numbers after 3 are Thai but I meant all numbers over 30.
Khmer numbers are as fascinating as they are bizarre.
If English operated in the same way, we would count like this:
one
two
three
four
five
five-one
five-two
five-three
five-four
ten
Now imagine that all English numbers over 30 came from French
87 would be like quatre-vingt five-two
What a mixup!
As for Lao and Thai, Dingy is right. I found that I could get by in Lao using a Thai-based pidgin.
The Isaan dialect is really Lao with a thick veneer of Thai stuck on it. The numbers in the Isaan dialect are Thai thanks to the determination of Thai authorities to impose the Thai language in the area (for example, no one uses sao for 20, they use yii sip). All abstract and modern terms come from Thai but the core of the Isaan dialect is pure Lao.
In using Dingy's analogy, I would say that the Isaan dialect is like Galician, a dialect of Portuguese (or language nearly identical to Portuguese) very heavily influenced by Spanish .
So, the next time you meet an Isaan girl, you know that she speaks something similar to Lao with a lot of Thai words all mixed in.
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]...........Ask any linguist whether Khmer is a tonal language. Ordinary Khmers probably know no more about their language than English-speakers know about theirs (how many English-speakers know what a phrasal verb is or what a cleft sentence is?).......[/QUOTE]How true your statements are.
I recently considered doing a TEFL course in my home town and when I made contact with them was surprised to be sent a pre-interview exam. It was all about the 'finer points' of the language I have spoken natively for nearly 50 years and I did not even understand some of the questions, let alone be able to answer them.
I took the questions into work and asked some of my respected colleagues(there are some who struggle to spell their own name so I excluded them) if they could answer them; no one was able to approach them confidently but the best response came from someone who has been studying German in recent times. It seems as if the nuances of language speaking are taught when learning a foreign language and not when learning your own (and we know how bad the Brits are, in general, at speaking foreign languages.)
When I last returned from Cambodia I shared a row of seats with a Malysian girl and we had a nice flight and have stayed in contact. She is 23yo and studying to be an English language teacher. Her grasp of the English language is excellent and so I sent the same questions to her. A few days later she replied with all of the questions answered saying how it was useful revision for her but that it did force her to remember things that she had forgotten. I am embarrassed to say that her command of the English language is better than mine (and 99.999% of the British population).
As I have recently been studying Khmer I got to thinking what a Vowel is! I have always thought of a vowel as being A, E, I, O and U but the Khmer language has its own Vowels, so what are they? They are sounds made with an open aspect but how many Brits even know this? I reckon maybe only 1% and this is really sad but probably explains why we are so bad at learning foreign languages as we do not understand our own.
If you really want to get blown away by the finer points of a spoken language do a search on wikipedia for Vowel. I think that if you can understand all of these points then you would find find learning other languages much easier (as long as you can understand how those rules apply to the language you are learning!!).
I would be interested to know if the points above apply just to Brits or whether they apply to other English speaking nations such as America and Australia. Anyone care to comment?
Sorry to ramble on,
Hawk
It is sad to say I left left the Kingdom of Cambodia. I definitely liked here the best. I had a live-in for almost 3 weeks that I knew from a previous trip besides the fun I had that I previously posted.
She had dinner ready every night and also did my laundry. We had sex at least once in the morning and once at night. She gives a great BBBJ and CIM. Did her anal twice. I know I have been the only one who has had anal with her. She is 23 years old. I gave her $100 per week for a total of $300.
Sigh, I will miss here very much.
I tried to find Sri Pia from Sophie's. But apparently a Swiss guy who lives in Thailand has taken her off the market according to one of the other girls that I know there that is very close to her. :( :(
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Uh... KHMER IS INDEED TONAL ACCORDING TO THE FOLKS I KNOW!! I know several Khmer in the US and they INSIST it's tonal. My Thai teacher speaks some khmer and he says it's tonal as well (just not as extensive as Thai). I'll talk to one of my Khmer friends in depth and ask him.
Speaking of languages - Lao is to Thai like Portugese is to Spanish - similar but not exactly the same. Some of the words don't mean the same and several letters have different "names". Isaan is a strange combination of thai/lao/khmer languages[/QUOTE]
I speak good Khmer and would say it is definitely not tonal. However, not trusting myself I have Googled this and come up with the following on the trusty Wikipedia.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonal_language[/url]
Wiki has spoken!
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Uh... KHMER IS INDEED TONAL ACCORDING TO THE FOLKS I KNOW!! I know several Khmer in the US and they INSIST it's tonal. My Thai teacher speaks some khmer and he says it's tonal as well (just not as extensive as Thai). I'll talk to one of my Khmer friends in depth and ask him.
Speaking of languages - Lao is to Thai like Portugese is to Spanish - similar but not exactly the same. Some of the words don't mean the same and several letters have different "names". Isaan is a strange combination of thai/lao/khmer languages[/QUOTE]Unlike Thai, Lao, and Vietnamese, Khmer is not a tonal language!
Take it from me, I'm Khmer!:)
HavePun!:)
DL
that might make it easier - I don't think I could do 2 tonals at the same time
I have found a website that makes a refference to hiring taxi's and body gaurds on PP. I though I should prehaps post it here.
All Destinations offers car and 4WD rental, with driver. Bodyguards available. Tel: 016-779901.
I dont know though sounds like a good idea. Ring them get a taxi for the day and a bodyguard.
[QUOTE=Etard]I have found a website that makes a refference to hiring taxi's and body gaurds on PP. I though I should prehaps post it here.
All Destinations offers car and 4WD rental, with driver. Bodyguards available. Tel: 016-779901.
I dont know though sounds like a good idea. Ring them get a taxi for the day and a bodyguard.[/QUOTE]
Phnom Pehn, seemed very safe, i dont imagine why should anyone need a bodyguard !
Is it just me or is this whole statement weird? I've been a frequent visitor to SEA since the late 80's, Kam since 95 and not once have I felt threatened or put myself in harms way, I will in fact say that PP is one of the safer cities I've had the fortune to spend time in.
So ETARD minus the are heres some friendly advice meant in the nicest of ways. Stay the fuck it is wherever you come from, you obviously are just another farangenstein with zero common sense.
I've been in Phnom Penh for a few days and have been enjoying myself due to the contributions of the posters here. Thanks!
But I haven't been able to find the Rose Bar. Can someone tell me where it is located?
Maybe they ment translator or something. Anyone have any expirence with
[url]http://www.hotel-imprevu-resort.com/[/url] ? I am thinking about staying here for 2 months/using it as a base camp.
[QUOTE=Etard]I have found a website that makes a refference to hiring taxi's and body gaurds on PP. I though I should prehaps post it here.
All Destinations offers car and 4WD rental, with driver. Bodyguards available. Tel: 016-779901.
I dont know though sounds like a good idea. Ring them get a taxi for the day and a bodyguard.[/QUOTE]
To Guard or Not To Guard, that is the Question !
PP is pretty safe BUT beware, as with all cities there are dangers lurking in the dark. If you're traveling solo and plan to be out late at night and walking, it would be prudent to have an amigo. Most muggers don't want to mess with 2 or more guys.
I know one guy who hailed a moto late at night, he got taken down a back street where a few other motos mugged him. Another guy got mugged and stabbed by some motos outside Martinis.
PP is as safe as you make it or as unsafe as you make it. Tempt fate and see just how lucky you are.
You may not need a body guard but a local dependable driver is strongly suggested.
Shamas O'Dognasty
It is on Street 104, a few yards off of Sisowath Quay near the Tonle Sap Hotel.
Some good advice there Shamas.
When it comes to walking at night, it will always be a risk.
If you appear drunk, it's an easy target for a robber. So if you're planning a big night out, better have a trusted moto driver with you or get a tuk-tuk with a drinking buddy.
Sure there are potential risks everywhere at night in PP, it's just better to minimise your chances of adding another figure to the statistics. Crime appears to be low until you hear of another incident.
[QUOTE=When it comes to walking at night, it will always be a risk.
A few months ago I was talking to a guy at Jim's watering hole. He teaches English in PP. He was walking with a limp and he explained that he had wrecked his bike a bit and he was out drinking so he took a moto to the ATM on the Quay.
It was about 2am and after he got the money and got back on the moto, they turned onto a side street and within the first block another bike pulled up along side and dragged him off of the moto. They really kicked his ass as they went through his pockets and grabbed his watch as well as the money. They were beating him with something hard and he was a bloody mess.
His driver had split at the first sign of trouble and he had a hard time getting anybody else to help him. Finally got a driver to take him to the hospital where they told him he had lost enough blood that he would probably have died if he had been much later.
Nights can be hard on your health as Shamus points out.
AF
I have to Pattaya and Bangkok serval times and I am thinking og going to PP I keep reading how dangerous it is. Is this true compared to Bangkok and Pattaya and I was also wondering Since I am a US citizen do I need a visa or will my passport work. Thanks for the help and more info you can give like maps nightlife and anything else would be great.
Hello:
I am thinking of taking a year off from my job and getting my TEFL. I would like to teach in Cambodia because I don't have the money to teach anywhere else. However, I don't know the schools or hiring practices for cambo schools. Maybe someone has information. I will check back on this forum.
Thanks,
W
I beg to disagree, but PP is NOT dangerous.
On the other hand:
When you are white, drunk and pull money out of an ATM at 2AM you better have your medication checked. There is not much more to say, I guess.
The same can get you KILLED in an instant in ANY US city!
[QUOTE=Wilsafris]I would like to teach in Cambodia because I don't have the money to teach anywhere else. [/QUOTE]
I would expect that I'm getting reasonable paid if I teach anywhere in this world.
Or do I have to bring money meanwhile for getting a teachers job?
Confused......
Cheers!
[QUOTE=AncientFornicatr][QUOTE=When it comes to walking at night, it will always be a risk.
A few months ago I was talking to a guy at Jim's watering hole. He teaches English in PP. He was walking with a limp and he explained that he had wrecked his bike a bit and he was out drinking so he took a moto to the ATM on the Quay.
It was about 2am and after he got the money and got back on the moto, they turned onto a side street and within the first block another bike pulled up along side and dragged him off of the moto. They really kicked his ass as they went through his pockets and grabbed his watch as well as the money. They were beating him with something hard and he was a bloody mess.
His driver had split at the first sign of trouble and he had a hard time getting anybody else to help him. Finally got a driver to take him to the hospital where they told him he had lost enough blood that he would probably have died if he had been much later.
Nights can be hard on your health as Shamus points out.
AF[/QUOTE]
I have found the streets of PP reasonably safe of a night but like any where in the world you need to use common sence.
Going to an ATM at 2 am is like wearing a neon sign with "Rob Me" strapped to your back
A friend of mine lived for 18 month in PP. It is really safe as long as you don't do foolish things as going to an ATM at 2am...
[QUOTE=Tazzy Devil][QUOTE=AncientFornicatr]
I have found the streets of PP reasonably safe of a night but like any where in the world you need to use common sence.
Going to an ATM at 2 am is like wearing a neon sign with "Rob Me" strapped to your back[/QUOTE]
I have been reading reports all the way back to last year and I am trying to decide if PP is the place to go or not. I will be in thailand for 2 weeks and was thinking of going over but I read good and alot bad reviews is it worth the trip? If it is can anyone recommend a good upscale girl friendly hotel hopefully safe in the room. Thanks guys I appreciate all the help
[QUOTE=Spokaneman35]I have been reading reports all the way back to last year and I am trying to decide if PP is the place to go or not. I will be in thailand for 2 weeks and was thinking of going over but I read good and alot bad reviews is it worth the trip? If it is can anyone recommend a good upscale girl friendly hotel hopefully safe in the room. Thanks guys I appreciate all the help[/QUOTE]
It is always worth the trip and it is quite different from thailand,thank god.
I was in phnom penh last week and it was raining every day and not too hot.Not many barang so a surfeit of girls,the 104 bar was very pleasant and full of lovely girls with no tatoos and no mobile phones-ahh heaven.
Flamingo is the best place to stay for the money and now has in room safes and an ATM in the lobby but it is full even at this time of year so book ahead.Good back up is the big luck,stay on level 6 near the pool or a bit more expensive with a lovely pool is the billabong-but not so GF.
Nice food on the riverfront at the green vespa,cantina and the jungle.
I spent a few days in Phnom Penh a week or so ago and enjoyed myself. Some comments:
* Flamingo's hotel is pretty good. It's centrally located near the Walkabout Hotel/Bar, Shanghai (hostess bar), and Heart of Darkness (Nightclub). I'the stay there again if I went back to Phnom Penh.
* Heart of Darkness. Seems to be the club to go to. I went there on three different evenings at different times and it was always fairly crowded. There's quite a few locals and tourists there as well as some working girls. The working girls tend to hang out by the entrance. I always went there with a girl, so I'm not sure what the quoted price is from a girl working there. As an aside, I think there is a 3, 000 riel entry fee (includes a free drink) for Cambodians but not for Foreigners, so the girls I went with were happy to be able to go with me for free.
* Hostess Bars: Bar 104/Shanghai. Take your pick, there are easily dozens of them. Some can be fairly aggressive and some can be lowkey. Just keep looking until you find what you want. I preferred the lowkey ones where there wasn't a lot of pressure to buy drinks all the time. It can be hit or miss if the girl is willing to leave the bar with with, and if anything else happens. (I did go to Rose Bar, and interestingly enough, not a single hostess came up to talk to me. They were mostly busy playing a card game in the corner with themselves.)
* Sharky's: I enjoyed coming here to watch the pool. It tends to be lowkey in that the girls will come by to talk to you, but not hassle you. Always had a lot of girls in the evenings which ranged from 5 to 9. I took two from here and had a lot of fun with them.
* Martini's: I didn't care for this place. The dance area is really dark and makes it hard to get a picture of what the girls look like. The beer garden area can be hot depending on the weather. In general I found the mix of girls to be better at Sharky's and other places. Be careful that you aren't too drunk if you pick a girl from the dance area. There were some really nasty looking ones there.
* Cyrcee bar: I'm not sure if I spelled this right, but I found it to be similar to a short-time bar like on Soi 6 in Pattaya, Thailand. The first night I walked in, I was swarmed with 10 girls all trying to talk to me and get me to pick them to go upstairs. After ordering a drink and fighting off most of them, I eventually picked one who was great. I even went back a few days later and barfined her for the night. I think it was $5-10 for the bar, and $30 for her. Unlike most girls I met, she'the yum yum for a long time and was pretty much compliant to do almost anything. I think in the long term it would be boring for me to stay with a girl who's almost like a robot, but for a night it was fun.
* Sightseeing: Hopefully everyone who goes to Phnom Penh will take the time to see Tuol Sleng and the killing fields. I'the recommend paying the $5 for the guide at the killing fields since there isn't a lot of signage and you'll get more out of it. Think of it as two fewer drinks and supporting a good cause. Some of the other sites were nice to see, but nothing else is a must see.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
I have heard rumour that Hooters (just a stone's throw from Walkabout and closed for a month or two) has now been sold and renamed DollHouse. Has anyone had a chance to get there and be able to provide a brief report?
Hawk
I found this today and, although it is a month old, thought it painted a well balanced view of the p4p scene in Cambodia. It is unusual to see a story that doesn't suggest that the sex tourists are the cause of all Cambodian girls' woes.
Take a look and see what you think. [url]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article1996005.ece[/url]
Hawk
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]I have heard rumour that Hooters (just a stone's throw from Walkabout and closed for a month or two) has now been sold and renamed DollHouse. Has anyone had a chance to get there and be able to provide a brief report?
Hawk[/QUOTE]
Hey hawkster,I was in there last week.
The decor is much the same and I found the girls to be ordinary despite mr kim's rave reviews.
He was in the place every night.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]I have heard rumour that Hooters (just a stone's throw from Walkabout and closed for a month or two) has now been sold and renamed DollHouse. Has anyone had a chance to get there and be able to provide a brief report?
Hawk[/QUOTE]
Ed, the owner of HOOTERS: Phnom Penh, shut the place down earlier this year; too many problems getting and keeping good staff. He thought about re-opening it under a different format but ended up selling it and returning to the USA for an indefinite stay.
There was never any connection with the real HOOTERS chain.
Here's a article from 2003 on the same subject. A bit hard to read because it's full of typos. Makes me wonder its authenticity the first time I read it.
[url]http://cambodia.ahrchk.net/mainfile.php/news200304/595[/url]
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]I found this today and, although it is a month old, thought it painted a well balanced view of the p4p scene in Cambodia. It is unusual to see a story that doesn't suggest that the sex tourists are the cause of all Cambodian girls' woes.
Take a look and see what you think. [url]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article1996005.ece[/url]
Hawk[/QUOTE]
more on the subject. appears the girls who work in the parks and brothels are the biggest victims.
[url]http://www.alternatevisions.org/publications/cambodiarapereport.pdf[/url]
[quote=taloha]more on the subject. appears the girls who work in the parks and brothels are the biggest victims.
[url]http://www.alternatevisions.org/publications/cambodiarapereport.pdf[/url][/quote]and the police the biggest abusers!
thanks for sharing, taloha.
i read this two days ago and can't get it out of my mind.
"special condomns" page 26
[quote=taloha]more on the subject. appears the girls who work in the parks and brothels are the biggest victims.
[url]http://www.alternatevisions.org/publications/cambodiarapereport.pdf[/url][/quote]
[QUOTE=Verde99]I read this two days ago and can't get it out of my mind.
"SPECIAL CONDOMNS" PAGE 26[/QUOTE]That report is completely insane, what a sick world we live in.
in response to a pm about my post, some clarification:
it was a reaction to the description of the use of condoms specifically designed to inflict vaginal damage on the victim. see page 20 for descript of "tiger fur" condoms coated with sand.
in the worst case, the resulting injuries can lead to serious medical complications due to infections not to mention the accompanying pain and suffering. in the not so worse case, such an attack can prevent the sw victim from working. medical complications can result in death. not working can result in death.
the article describes a culture of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and abuse of sws, which i expected to be disturbing enough. but i guess that i was taken aback by the crossing of the line from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] to attempted murder.
i can personalize this when i think about the contact that i have with sws. and then i think about the contact and interaction i have with the police, pimps, brothel owners, and gangsters who may be the perpetrators.
it is not news to say that the world can be a rough place. but it is still sometimes difficult for me to absorb information like this and to reconcile the depravity of it especially with my proximity to it. but i guess my problems are not so dire.
it is also not my intention to create a thread for "humans doing bad things". i won’t shy away but i won’t wallow in it.
back to the business at hand.
[quote=verde99]i read this two days ago and can't get it out of my mind.
"special condomns" page 26[/quote]
I stayed 4 days in Phnom Penh. One good thing is the cheap and good street restaurants. Second good thing is you can be there quick by airplane.
For the rest Phnom Penh was nothing for me. Hard to find nice hookers. Most are Vietnamese who think they are better then Cambodian hookers (we do blowjob Cambodian not, we have whiter skin) and a cute asks 40$ long time.
Cambodian hookers go to sleep at 10 PM. Vietnamese at 4 am! A lot of Phnom Penh hookers go work out of the city so the family does not know what they do. So best follow these nice friendly ladies to Sihanoukville (where also the temperature is much better, hotels much cheaper and finaly a lot of fierndly mamasan hookers ask only 15$).
Maybe if you are younger (max 37) and can speak local language (Khmer) then you can find a local jewel.
Along the river swetting you pay 2$ for a beer, siting at the beach in Sihanoukville you have a pint of beer for 50 dollarcents in a nice breaze.
[QUOTE=Elmerfud]That report is completely insane, what a sick world we live in.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen,
If you have been shocked then that article has served it's purpose well. But do you always believe everything you read and hear?
1./Do you believe that the Twin Towers were blown up by "terrorists"?
2./ Do you believe that AIDS is actually an "illness"?
3./ Do you believe that smoking causes cancer?
If you do believe all those than you are like children.
Did you notice the name of the author? It is some "Carol" , - a woman. Did you notice who it was commissioned for? For USAID, a well known feminist "charitable" (charitable??) organisation. This organisation is run by people who in fact derive their income from the "charitable work" they do. The greater the shock, the greater the donations they receive (mostly from women). Especially if the story mentions "sex, abuse, evil men, etc".
These are the same people riding around Phnom Penh in Landcruisers and Lexus 4WD trucks. They receive 5 figure salaries, in dollars. Have a look at St. 240 and around in PP.
Please, be realistic. Couldn't we write a report to prove anything we want to prove? Even the total opposite as they did? Of course it could be done. If someone would pay me as much as they did get paid for it, I promise I will make a report just as long, just as convincing and full of "facts" that I gather - stating the exact opposite of it all.
Please be men and don't act like children. If you believe all that crap than legally you shouldn't be able to view this, because it's only for over 18's.
Killer condoms, my knee. Be real. It was written to shock and to raise more funds. Wake up, wake up. Are the feminists successful again in making us become total fools?
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Think, please think!
not true, that asshole. if that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] report was written by 'feminists' (and by that, i assume you mean the anti-sex work radical feminists), then it would not use the words 'sex worker' or sex work' - they use the term 'prostituted women'. they also would not subscribe to a 'rights based' approach - feminazis believe the only rights sex workers have is the 'right' to be forcibly removed from the sex industry and rehabilitated.
this report was written by ngos, including a prostitutes collective. (i also know one of the reviewers listed, personally). if they were paid any money for it, it would have been a nominal amount in the form of a grant. and usaid is not a 'feminist charitable organisation' - it is a united states government department that distributes us aid funding. it's also the american president's master plan to force countries around the world to criminalise and/or abolish prostitution (hence the 'we don't support prostitution' disclaimer at the start of a report written, in part, by prostitutes). but that's a whole other rant.
the chances of these people getting any money - donations or otherwise - are slim to none. people do not give money to groups who want to help hookers work in the industry safely. usaid sure as hell won't - it's against us policy. people will only donate money to organisations who want to 'rescue' sex workers and 'retrain' them to be 'useful' members of society. they are the groups that women support in droves, because they think they're doing a good thing, saving the poor prostitutes from exploitation. (the other article mentioned below is a perfect example of feminazi propaganda with a primary aim of soliciting donations).
the people who wrote the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] report, however, have no reason to lie or embellish. they just want the story out there in the open, in the hope that someone will take it seriously and eventually, policy will change.
[QUOTE=Member #1344]* Sightseeing: Hopefully everyone who goes to Phnom Penh will take the time to see Tuol Sleng and the killing fields. I'the recommend paying the $5 for the guide at the killing fields since there isn't a lot of signage and you'll get more out of it. Think of it as two fewer drinks and supporting a good cause. Some of the other sites were nice to see, but nothing else is a must see.[/QUOTE]I've visited PP a dozen times and have never been to S21 or the k-fields.
So it's strange to read here that you are 'hoping' all tourists see both of these 'sights'. I never will.
On a side note, someone reported a few weeks ago how Martini's still has the same run of girls working there with very few fresh faces appearing. This remains true.
Kind of unfortunate as you witness the degeneration of these girls' faces and bodies over time.
If you stay away from Sharkey's long enough, it can be fun to go back there and see who is new. I occassionally get lucky and find a young cutie.
Some of the girls are great pool players but as always, most of them said goodbye to their youth many years ago.
With regards to all of the recent back-n-forth banter here on the PP board, perhaps it's time for Cambodia to have a 'News Board' and keep PP free for mongering/nightlife/eating info? Just a thought.
i'm afraid that "that arsehole" has shown his true colours and is indeed an arsehole.his lack of knowledge of the true situation in cambodia is obvious.i have spent quite some time in cambodia and i know that this report on gang [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and abuses by the police,gangsters and the sons of influential people is all true.
that arsehole has always disturbed me by his lack of compassion and feelings for the cambodian people,they are not just there for our gratification but they are in fact human beings.
i have met several men in cambodia who believe that the cambodian people should never be lifted out of poverty and ignorance because that will lessen our opportunites for sexual abuse at bargain basement prices.
call me a bluff old traditionalist but i am firstly a human being and i resent people like that arsehole who have no humanity.
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]...
That arsehole has always disturbed me by his lack of compassion and feelings for the cambodian people,they are not just there for our gratification but they are in fact human beings...[/QUOTE]Not only Cambodians but females in general are not acknowledged as human beings by him. This name is not a coincidence, but neither self-reflection I am afraid.
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]---
That arsehole has always disturbed me by his lack of compassion and feelings for the cambodian people,they are not just there for our gratification but they are in fact human beings.[/QUOTE]Yes, the asshole's ranting is as disturbing as the report itself.
[QUOTE=Zyros]Can anyone out there confirm whether or not Billabong is GF or not? Any help would be highly appreciated.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
To an extent it is, but it isn't set up as a place for the punters. It's a quiet place catering to couples and families, so exercise good judgment. I'd bring back a girl after midnight and have her out before 7 am, and I kept it low key. The front desk clerk didn't give me or the girls any hassle. Nice place w/ friendly staff. Rooms from $36 to $52.
[s][i]Pure Logic Philosophy presents[/i][/s]
[center][b][color=blue]That Asshole's Right[/color][/b][/center]
I recently read some of That Asshole's posts. He has many good ideas. ISG reports from all over the world tell the same story of increasing prices and decreasing quality. The market is shifting in favor of women. As women earn more and more money, they expect more and more money from men, as their values remain roughly the same (they continue to regard men as a source for material wealth). In the US, this has led to a large percentage of women who choose to remain single and those who are in a relationship often leave men sexually starved. This intensifies competition for the few available females.
See this [url=http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/survey-finds-percentage-first-time-home/story.aspx?guid={94A34A1B-6FCF-44B5-98D1-B8BB100ABCB3}]Marketwatch article from Nov 11, 2006[/url] and note the trend. There are more than twice as many single females who buy homes as there are single males who do.
The reason why women's power is increasing is that they collaborate and work together while men senselessly compete against one another. Women's collaboration consists of capitalizing on their monopolistic powers in the sex market. They overwhelmingly agree that chastity is virtuous. They insist that sex be based on true love, and if there's any doubt would rather err on the side of avoiding sex just in case. Heaven forbid they sleep with a guy who's in it "just for the sex". Thus the demand for sex increases, allowing women to control men like puppets.
In the past, a kind of balance of power was achieved by not allowing women to work, making them financially dependent on men. If men had acted in unison, they would have bargained for greater openness towards sex for each incremental increase in women's employment, in order to maintain a balance of power. Now we're seeing our bargaining power erode.
Girls grow up seeing an insatiable demand for sex-filled media (pornography, Baywatch, MTV, and what not). Everyone else is so obsessed with sex! They want to be different. They think they're not that crazy about sex. No way! They convince themselves they're the only virgins left in the world. Boys grow up unable to get real sex and consume the cheapest substitute, usually some form of video. Girls become all the warier of this sick obsession.
This system can be viewed as essentially enslaving all men at the mercy of women. Think of it this way. If all we cared about was to produce enough food, shelter, and other necessities to live comfortably, 5% of the population working full-time would be plenty. The reason why nearly all of us work is to accumulate a little more wealth than the guy next door. It's to show that cute blonde that you have an even better lifestyle, a little higher social status, a bit more education, etc than the rest. Many of us pay for the more attractive pussy by literally spending a whole lifetime working.
What makes That Asshole stand out is not the particular solution he recommends, but the very idea of suggesting a solution in the first place. Our failure to collaborate is the result of a near total lack of passion and will. That Asshole exudes a hope and optimism that nearly everyone has already lost a long time ago as a child. It's not about being 100% factually accurate and objective, don't you see? It's about feeling the right emotions and acting on those emotions. We've been conditioned our whole lives to pit ourselves against each other and to use our emotions to try to outdo or outsmart other men. He's offering you an alternative.
Pure Logic
An alternative?
Thinking or behaving like that like that arsehole-no thanks brother.
I am a human being.
Although I agree with you about That Asshole most of what you write, and is too lengthy to get into it sentence by sentence, sounds good but has nothing to do with any reality neither here nor there. Woman in general are more competitive with/against each other than men, for example. And yes their power in the western christian world is based on withholding sex to the point were they rather shrivel up and get implants. And to bring this back to where it is, your ass esment has thank the lord buddha nothing to do with reality here in pp. I have never seen the girls gang up or even tell each other the truth about the johns ever. We would be so out of luck if they ever did. The raising of the prices is just something the individuals learn by watching that more money can be made in sales than in services. This is why it is so important to keep the prices where they belong. Because instead of providing their service as they have learned and being paid and trying to get ahead by getting more customers and doing a better job to get more customers they start to focus on haggeling over the price. Because some idiots feel that it was just so worth it to them to get off, finally, that they throw a months salary at a hooker! Not mother theresa, no, a hooker who just happens to be the one that saved their little weiner from the burning desire to have SEX, FINALLY! And with their stupid christian background they try to save themselves from their feelings of guilt by throwing handfulls of bills around and mess up everything as usual. Wherever the tourist goes and whatever they do they leave a path of destruction by messing with a delicate balance wether it is in nature or society makes no difference. When you go to a foreign environments tread lightly, very very leave no traces behind, do not change or alter anything, start thinking now! It's too late any way.
And most of all leave your superior view on things you do not understand anyway AT HOME.
After I read yor post again I realixed that I might have missed the angle of your intend but after all the typing and the good feeling I got from it I will now post it anyway. It is the truth.I swear it!
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]An alternative?
Thinking or behaving like that like that arsehole-no thanks brother.
I am a human being.[/QUOTE]
I'm with you Prince,
we all have a choice as to how we behave and can choose to behave in accordance with the standards that are acceptable to us. It is an unfortunate fact of life that men like 'That Arsehole' give us all a bad name and we continually need to be on the defensive.
I gave up, a long time ago, trying to persuade anyone that their point of view might be offensive but commend anyone else's attempt at doing so.
Hawk
RE: That disguisting feminist article, "killer condoms crap", etc.
Dear Hypocrite Self Made Royal friend,
Please ask yourself: Why did you come here? For the food? For sightseeing? For the nice people? My friend, please don't be a hypocrite.
You did not come for the food, because it sucks. Not to see the Killing Fields either because it's crap, there is nothing there. And the nice people? Come on baby, you had enough of that after 3 days. (BTW now you are spending most of your waking time with foreigners anyway.)
*****To play billiards?*****
And yet you come back year after year, to slurp beer at the Walkabout Hotel and to grab young girls asses at the pool table all day long. My friend, are here any things that you cannot get at home? You can get the beer and the pool - but grabbing young girls' asses....hmmmm maybe in your wet dreams.
Why is that? My dear gentleman friend, who are sooooo very keen to stand up for your lovely womens' rights. How come that it is so different over here than at your home? If it wasn't so very different then you would be grabbing young girls asses at home and saving the trouble and expense of travelling.
*****Built on "Respect"*****
The meat trade that you came here to enjoy existed long before you could even pronounce "Khmer" properly. It was built for the locals, by the locals and in fact was much better before you ever came this way. There was no naked dancing and cock-sucking bars but the girls were much more plentiful, much prettier, younger and nicer personality - lot more respectful.
It was not built by you, and neither by me. It was built for local men by local men. Should I say, that among others, by the very policemen, the Khmer policemen that you despise so much and against whom that whole "shameful woman's whingeing article" is directed.
*****Built on Strenght*****
It was built on respect and strenght. Sorry to inform you that respect does not come from the law. It comes only from conscious, long time effort and hard work. There is no "respect-pill", that you take after meal and you will be respected by women. It is not laid down in the written law either, but simply everyone knows it when there is and so does everyone know when there isn't any. Like in your famous, enlightened and civilised homeland. Should I repeat? There isn't any respect for men. And so aren't any brothels either with beautiful young girls working for the price of an evening-meal.
*****'cos Mama told me so....*******
The Khmer Policeman.... The Khmer Man..... Do you hate these? Why do you hate them? Because mama told you so? If mama tells you anything, will you do it? My dear distinguished friend, how on earth did you manage to get a passport if you are still sitting on your mama's skirt?
As I said, it was much better years ago and still not too bad if you get out of the tourist centres (where the kind like you gathers). Yet, the respect that had been laid down by generations, is currently being eroded at a fast pace. The "respect" is never laid down in law, yet everyone knows it. It is strenght! The Khmer woman knows about the brothels and yet can do nothing. She gets disciplined regularly by her husband at home , yet she can do nothing about it.
*****Mens' Unity*****
She never acts "big mouth" in public because it would lead to severe consequences. When one man here is humiliated by a woman, she is faced with a strong, united class-action by all men, and even by her parents. She doesn't risk it. This is how the meat-trade is built and is supported. This is respect. Based on strenght. Not on law. It works, you can see, that's why you came here, dear Hypocrite. The alternative would be your home style. Where do you come from? How many young beautiful girls work in brothels there for a pittance (price of couple of meals, 3 beers)?
No doubt, you hypocrite and your friends will destroy it soon. Good luck to it. Welcome to Khmer America, Khmer England, Khmer Europe. Please don't forget to follow what the women order you to do. After all you are a slave anyway, you can't deny it.
*****One sided portrait******
The acts attributed to some policemen may have happened, however are far from typical. They portray one sidedly and simply from the view of women. They do no justice and are deeply biased. I any case, no matter what happened or not, we have to realize who we are. Either we are with the system or against it. Those being criticized are men. So are we (though not sure about you). Fighting them will earn us no respect. We are men. We want more brothels, more beautiful young women working in the sex-trade for a pittance. Not only in Cambodia but anywhere in the world, in America and England too. Even if some of us get too extreme sometimes, certainly we do not let any woman criticize us. Full stop.
*****Sparkling logic******
That disguisting article was aimed to destroy the respect towards men. Your comment is fascinating: Oh yeah, the writer was a woman but not a feminist? Sure, "she" was a "man-ist" then. Must have been. Working to empower men? How did'ya figger that out? Your great logic is sparkling and fascinating. Will look out for the flame at Walkabout next time. Also the fact that you may personally know one of the authors has no meaning. How much credible does that make them? You are a nobody as far as we know, no more than a faceless handle on a sextourist dirt-forum. I am sure that NGO author wouldn't be so proud of admitting to know you.
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I hope you might become a real person, a "man" some day, and cease to be a "slave" of women. The day to start is today. It's simple. Just stop fighting men. So simple.....
Some travels: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=622003&postcount=200[/url]
let's put things in their proper perspective - there is a huge difference between enjoyment and arrangements between consenting adults and nonconcensual abuse, assault, theft, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], pillaging and murder.
[quote=taloha]let's put things in their proper perspective - there is a huge difference between enjoyment and arrangements between consenting adults and nonconcensual abuse, assault, theft, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], pillaging and murder.[/quote]
alas, perhaps not to the student of foucault, marx, etc. in any case, while as an american i was bred with a 'liberal mind' (a sort of brain damage, or anyway hubris), i can do nothing but applaud humble turd's wonderful posts. we would all like to apply principles, ideologies, and 'fairness', but i fear mr. turd's brute analysis is closer to how the world really works, and his prescriptions will lead to a lot more of what we want - cheap sex with young women.
I know what a dollar is and what it can and cannot do where I live. Dollars and their equivalents are very important to me and you.
When I can enjoy a decent meal sitting in a café in Zhanjiang for 5 RMB, I feel more than my satiated appetite, I feel powerful. I feel weak when someone checks me into a Crowne Plaza for $120/USD per night and I receive in exchange the opportunity to eat scrambled “Army-style” eggs for breakfast as a way to have a bit of my USA home offered to me as a condolence for being so far from “the freest and greatest country in the history of the world”. My sense of power comes from the perception that I have “beaten the system”. No one got rich on my 5 RMB meal except me. I got richer on the savings. Other people involved only survived and they were grateful for that.
To remain an endeavoring foe of hypocrisy, I must seek to understand and accept all of the factors that lead up to this satisfying transaction. When the café owner’s wife gave birth and there were complications, the baby died. Then the café owner severely twisted his ankle and misaligned his kneecap, it was set by the local medicals. There were no x rays taken and the latest medical advances were far from available. The failure to achieve an accurate set will cause the café owner pain regularly in his leg for the rest of his short (by western standards) life. He may be in pain as he stands in front of the pot of roasted pork scraps from which I will receive my lunch. This is the circumstance of my 5 RMB meal. And I will enjoy them (the meals not the circumstances) as often as possible accepting that the “differential in wealth” i.e. poverty is what made this possible.
I will also use women for purely sexual purposes without hesitation. She is, by nature of her makeup, the compliment to my natural sexual needs. I did not choose these needs nor did I choose her being the ideal solution for fulfilling those needs. This previous sentence may imply that I am somehow shirking responsibility for my actions. I assure that is not the case. My actions are mine, which is the basis of everything that I hold dear.
When my sexual needs require fulfilling, I do my best to preserve my integrity even in the face of powerful urgency. My integrity will demand that if I am asked and feel compelled to answer, I will be perfectly forthcoming about the fact the she, upon being hired, will completely exist for my satisfaction. During the duration of her hire, she will have no other reason for existence. Differential in wealth make this possible.
I was told once that I objectify woman for sex. I thought about this and decided that the opposite is truer. I actually personify her. I will take whatever personality she has on display and then impose thoughts and attributes of my desiring onto her and take all this concoction into the sexual act. If could be satisfied with an object, I could save a lot of money and effort.
I will be the last one to support and encourage the NGO-types who want to change and effect the culture from their outside perspective. I do not think, throughout history there have been any successful examples of forcing a change on a culture from the outside except through brutal force. Perhaps the NGOs should get some tanks and concentration camps and do this job right. In modern history, atomic bombs were used on one particular culture with reasonable success.
Perhaps I should accept the gangsters’ cultural right to treat their females the way they deem fit. And I on several levels, I do. As I had previously mentioned, I do not think it is possible or even ethical to impose social change on a culture.
But the practical side of all this is that if my pursuit of the fulfillment that I need is thwarted by the encounter with a scabbed and bruised vagina, then I am injured. And the attack that caused the damage was on me.
Perhaps I should be more humble and accepting of the brutality inflicted by some men of a culture towards some women of that culture. But if I am attacked should I not at least have reason to be upset?
I do hope that we can some day live in a world where men do not attack other men in this way.
Good evening Gentlemen, I'm new writer here but definitly not new reader. I can describe myself as a self-made monger who lately discover ISG and its precious services for whom I would like to thank you all of you fellows of this fine art that is "fucking around". In these days I'm RTFF of Indonesia and Philippines as are my next targets. After Reading some like 1000 reports on Sunday I decided to have a rest for a while and write something. Closing this short introduction of me I must say my personal hero here is That Asshole unless I'm not sure he would like to be defined as an hero. With him I share a personal angriness against female-world, but I must say to him that it doesn't really matter how one is, wether kind or bad, ugly or handsome, clean or smelly. Me I'm a 45 good looking man but this had never helped me. It must exists some sort of secret recipe, some men has some has not to deal with females. The ones who has it, just rock over one after one after one, the others, just hang on window and look at the scenary. That's it. As a friend of mine say "If for some misterious reason she likes you, you can even dance on the table with smelly socks and burping bier around, they will say you are great man, if she doesn't like you, you can be as kind polite rich and whatever you want, it doesn't matter".
First time mongering I went to Thailand, 3 years ago, the only information I had was "Pattaya", wich in the case of Pattaya it is all you need, I wonder why there is a forum about Pattaya, there is nothing to explain or secrets to be discoverd. You go there, soon you know, everything is under the sun, the only thing missed is people fucking right on the beach. I was shy and unexperienced at the time, Pattaya is the right place to start. Anyway I'm proud to have discovered by myself, Bangkok, patpong, soi cowboy, nana. Obvious yes, try yourself without map.
I've been recently to a tour Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, so here is my report about Phnom Penh.
First of all: Sophie Club. Yes, everthing said about that place is true, the very first need is knowing exactly where it is. If you don't have the right address and the description of the stair to get in, you won't find it. There is this small door, look like a private apartment. You knock on and soon you fill find yourself seated down with a bunch of meat in between your legs. For shy people, you don't really need to do nothing, they will do everything. Just let them do. You don't have to ask, neither to speak. I was just laughing at the experience. Not a really god meat, didn't see any cute. It doens't matter, having that bunch of young girls on their knees in front of you, barking like dogs for having the bare possibility of sucking your little brother, is great. Made me think "Oh god, what a wonderful world will be if everywhere were like that". Can you imagine western women do that? 15$ the BBBJ on the back room, 4$ for four tips at the dogs and 5$ to mamasan for beer and tip, just in case I come back.
Mikado. Great service at Mikado. Tough papasan and young chickens, like father with many daughters. Use their rooms at first floor, they are clean and well furnisched. The one where I've been had mirror full wall and ceiling, the big tits of the gal with me reflected infinite time in them, it was like being surrounded by tits, as I would have payed for 50 of them. 25$ and I got her the day after at my hotel for free. Tipped with dinner.
Walkabout. My experience with freelancers. Just wait, sooner or later someone will come to you. I just don't know how to deal with them at first. A thin, light, small and wavy girl came next to me, soon followed by her friend wich was same. Two little cicks I could lift up with just one hand. They asked 30$ each, I gave her 35 for the couple. Very fun fucking one while the other was watching tv right next to us on bed, then changed, the second doggy style, the first watching tv. When over, they start to jump like they would had springs in their feet asking for tip. I told them, next time do not watch tv. They cried a little bit. (the day after they found me same place, had same course without watching tv and I tipped 10$ for the two. What I've learned in this experience: being kind won't worth, meat need to be trained, and never never trust in tears, the more tears they do, the more kindness will be next time).
Heart of darkness is a huge mess. Tons of tourist, even western women. Useful only after midnight, some very young little chiks at that time, all packed in the corner at the right after entrance (toilets way). High heels, very porno look, stunners. Unfortunetly I was coupled that night, big mistake.
Hotel Flamingo is definitly the best choice. You can rest in your room and as you feel horny just go downstairs, cross the road and pick up one at walkabout wich is right in front, like a supermarket, but wait until late afternoon. We were all going up and down with girls, almost continuosly, like a railway station. It doesn't exist a place more GF then this.
Along riverside I didn't see nothing, neither street walking activity on 51 or wherever. Maybe I'm not able to, after all I've just started my career.
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Nice report. Either that or I want to be a "senior member" and I only need two more posts. It is like the PRIZE at the bottom of a box of sugary cerial. I gotta have it now!
Seriously, nice post.
Me I'm a 45 good looking man but this had never helped me.
Story of my life!
I told them, next time do not watch tv. They cried a little bit. (the day after they found me same place, had same course without watching tv and I tipped 10$ for the two. What I've learned in this experience: being kind won't worth, meat need to be trained, and never never trust in tears, the more tears they do, the more kindness will be next time).
Yes. And I want to point out that not every man would give them a second chance. But, this was the right thing to do and you were rewarded with their improved service.
Heart of darkness is a huge mess. Tons of tourist, even western women.
Story of my life.
Useful only after midnight, some very young little chiks at that time, all packed in the corner at the right after entrance (toilets way). High heels, very porno look, stunners.
Good advice. Note to self: Don't get too drunk. Stay up late.
Hotel Flamingo is definitly the best choice. You can rest in your room and as you feel horny just go downstairs, cross the road and pick up one at walkabout wich is right in front, like a supermarket, but wait until late afternoon. We were all going up and down with girls, almost continuosly, like a railway station. It doesn't exist a place more GF then this.
You sold me. But is there turn-down service in the evenings?
Yeah,yeah,yeah TA.
I wasn't trying to change your attitudes,that is impossible.
I think I feel sorry for you,really.
I have been living and travelling in asia for more than thirty years and I don't need any lectures from you as to how things really are.
I obviously indulge in young women but I treat them well as I treat all people well in the third world.Last time in cambodia I helped many people,men and women with education expenses,medical procedures,tuk tuk repairs etc etc.
The world would be a very sad place if we all dis respected people as you do,wouldn't it?
Nice report Brenno.
I'll be there in 2 months, can't wait anymore, LOL.
Hello gents,
Great to read the posts, keeping info up to date. I have been to Phnom Penh on three occasions and I will be there soon for a week or so.
I am looking for advice.
My chemical enhancement of choice is Levitra. Expensive. The generic is Vardenafil.
Does anyone know a pharmacy which sells them? Preferably the generic?
Thanks in anticipation.
Dear Opebo,
Thanks for the support. I would just like to make a note that "Humble Turd" is dead. He passed away about 6 months ago. Now sure he must be in Hell, where he deserves to be by his evil life. Before he passed out, he handed me his Will. And that was to follow in his footsteps.
Maybe one day we will meet again, possibly being chained to the same rock and an ever hungry eagle eating out our livers every day for eternity. Let's admit it, we are no saints. We are rotten as it gets. To pretend to be good would be hypocrisy and also we would be fooling ourselves.
For a human it is not possible to be good. Maybe only to "look good", and even that just temporarily. I always marvel at people how hard they try to "look good", and fearing that their dirt comes to light. They are fooling themselves, most of all.
So, the point is: Humble Turd is dead. Thanks for noting it. (Nobody else knows by now who HT is anyway.)
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And just one more thing: "aids" - (note, all lower case!)
It is not reciprocating defense for defense but I really mean it. I have noticed the criticism against you, as being irresponsible and even criminal for preferring "bareback". Rest assured that those people know not what they are talking about.
I have seriously thought about it for a very long time and had to finally conclude the whole "aids issue" a big hoax. It is not by analysing the "scientific" facts. I am not qualified to do that. It is totally confusing anyway and I doubt that anybody really understands it. (As I have noted in the relevant chapter of this forum.)
The correct approach is from the human side. From logic and common sense. It is simply business, to make more money and to lead the masses of brainless sheep is so easy. They know nothing, just follow and repeat what they hear. The same goes for "cancer, terrorism, child abuse, etc".
So, I don't think you are "irresponsible" or "evil". But simply maybe you watch less television, read less the news and perhaps you have more of your own mind than the average "sheep".
So, good luck to your "uncovered adventures". It will never-ever make you sick and never will you make anyone sick by it. Disease comes from lot deeper than a cock, a **** or a bacteria. In fact the real sickening thing is the keenness of the masses to follow and repeat stupid messages what they understand nothing about.
It needs no explanation that taking care of your "health" means a lot more than just covering your cock, popping a pill, getting an injection, or receiving a "magic spell". Anyone would be a fool relying on such things to stay healthy. "Health" means a lot more than that. To believe in such things, one must be a woman or similar kind of creature.
[QUOTE=Verde99]Nice report. Either that or I want to be a "senior member" and I only need two more posts. It is like the PRIZE at the bottom of a box of sugary cerial. I gotta have it now!
Seriously, nice post.
Yes. And I want to point out that not every man would give them a second chance. But, this was the right thing to do and you were rewarded with their improved service.
You sold me. But is there turn-down service in the evenings?[/QUOTE]Thank you. I bet 80% of people in Flamingo were nick of ISG, talked with someone, we are all there, looks like a convention, you will see. Staff simply don't bother. Don't remember in the evening, I've never been there in the evening, actually I don't know. The reason I often give a second chance is because I travel slowly, usually my trip last 40 days at least, then I'm not in a hurry like being there just for one week and have to fullfill sensations for the winter of solitude when I come back home.
Brenno
Hi All. I have found this forum very informative and used this resource in planning accomodation and nights out in PP last year. I will be in PP again this November and cant wait to have a beer at Shanghi Bar, a steak at Rose bar and more importantly, smack some yound firm ass!
Prior to arriving in PP this time I will continue to check this forum for your thoughts and advice. The only reports that I dont bother to read are the ones that refer to the women we enjoy so much as "meat" or engage in socio-political theories that argue that women are inferior etc. I would prefer to hear about good value accomodation, good place for a beer or some food and most importantly, where to meet the fairer sex in PP.
Having said all this it would be hypocritical for me not to share some of my experiences in PP last year.
Sophies: Have to go but be prepared to be molested (not a bad thing!) as soon as you buy a drink at the bar. Easiest way to find it from Flamingos is to head up Street 51 in the opposite direction from the Walkabout and turn right when you get to Cat House Tavern (10 minute stroll) head down that street and 100 metres down, look for a the Sophies sign at the intersection on the far right corner as you enter the intersection. Enter via stairway on the side on the building). The girls at sophies are into anything and the relatively cheap prices and convienience has to be noted
Flamingos: Cant beat the location and rooms range from $20-30 per night. If you walk out of Flamingos turn right on the road and head down over 2-3 intersections, you will find Super Star hotel on the right hand side of the road. Similar (a little bigger and lighter) rooms to Flamingos but at $12 per night is great value although slightly further from the action.
Shanghi: Great place to have a beer and a chat to the girls. Can bar fine the girls for $5 after 10pm or $10 prior to 10pm. Food is ok
Rose Bar: Near the river. Quality of girls is good. Girls behind the bar sometimes wont go out but the girls wandering around (the majority) are fair game:
Walkabout: Graet Loction but quality of girls is not so good
Sharkies: Good fun. Good music and a couple of pool tables with drink speacials every night. Heaps of Freelancers and a good place to negotiate a threesome as the girls here often hang out in pairs. $20 LT is the norm. If you want to take a couple of girls make sure that you ask if they will do "pussy yum yum" if you want to see a really good show prior to getting involved yourself. Only problem is is that if you spend too much time watching the girls getting it on, when you jump in you mighten last that long.
Martini: Huge place a fair way from Flamingos but worth checking out. Lots of girls and if you like dancing there is plenty of room to bust some of your favourite moves
Heart of Darkness: Gets busy after 1am. Heaps of people every night and is the choice PP nightclub of back packers when they manage to drag themselves away from their happy pizza shops and bars around the lake. Drinks are expensive and you have to leave your bags at the door. However, plenty of local girls out having fun and looking for guys like us to buy the drinks, have a chat and take them home (often for free if you some some interest in them and make them laugh)
Anyway, I hope you can pick up a bit of info from this report. I certainly have gained a comprehensive insight into the night life of PP through your reports so thankyou to all of you. Finally, without trying to sound too high and mighty, lets try and treat the women we travel great distances for to have a whole lot of fun with with a little more respect.
Cheers,
Robarts
PS If anyone is going to be in PP in November, let me know if you want to catch up for a few beers and a laugh.
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I am thinking of staying at the Asia Palace hotel I was wondering if it is GF, location, and any other information would be great.
Thanks for the help
[QUOTE=Glasnost]And elevator[/QUOTE]Is the Asia Palace the same as the Asia Hotel?
[QUOTE=Spokaneman35]I am thinking of staying at the Asia Palace hotel I was wondering if it is GF, location, and any other information would be great.
Thanks for the help[/QUOTE]Asia Palace is GF.
It is on Monivong, with a view of the Central Market.
Asia Hotel is different, but close by on the same street.
Asia Palace was spectacular a few years ago when they just remodeled it, but now it is not as new. Kind of worn. Hotel rooms gets quickly thrashed. But it is still decent. One bedroom suites are expensive (in Cambodian terms), but the balcony view is nice.
Here is there website: [url]http://www.asiapalacehotel.com.kh/En/index.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Niknoy]The more expensive Hotels would have NGOs in them, as they take a lot of money for themselves from donations, and also they seem to drink at bars on the river front.[/QUOTE]Is the Imperial Gardens a nice place to stay and how about the room rates. What is a NGO ?
[QUOTE=GreenBud]Asia Palace is GF.
It is on Monivong, with a view of the Central Market.
Asia Hotel is different, but close by on the same street.
Asia Palace was spectacular a few years ago when they just remodeled it, but now it is not as new. Kind of worn. Hotel rooms gets quickly thrashed. But it is still decent. One bedroom suites are expensive (in Cambodian terms), but the balcony view is nice.
Here is there website: [url]http://www.asiapalacehotel.com.kh/En/index.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
The Big Luck is also on Monivong. Just wondering does it overlook central market or do I need a long range telescope to see it?
Thanks, SB
[QUOTE=Blueskies]Is the Imperial Gardens a nice place to stay and how about the room rates. What is a NGO ?[/QUOTE]NGO = Non-Government Organization
I'm just curious as I will be in PP the 1st week of October. I've read many reports of the Flamingo with cell phones, cameras missing, too many people in room while cleaning and people wearing your clothes and not their's (I didn't hear of money missing though). I've never heard of that going on in VN. I've always felt secure leaving my stuff in the room or hotel. So, what is the fascination with this hotel? No reports like that in SR though. I've done my homework and read that the Flamingo has in room safes. Is that true. It it now does now have then I can understand staying there but without I have many doubts. How about the boat that leave the Royal Star Hotel. How long does it take to get from PP to SR? Thank you I WILL stay away from St 63, thanks all. I've learned something from your lesson, don't try and be so damn cheap! Bleached sheets are not bad, just very clean. Having done my homework "Sharkies" has a star next to it and "Heart of Darkness" night club just to hang out and check out the party people of PP. Any other GF Hotels? Looking foward to visiting Ankor what.
Later
[QUOTE=Saibb]The Big Luck is also on Monivong. Just wondering does it overlook central market or do I need a long range telescope to see it?
Thanks, SB[/QUOTE]
Even with telescope you can't see the market from Big Luck.
Long time not been in PP, but I guess it's 2-3 km from Market southwards.
Cheers!
I stayed in Flamingo several times and never had a problem. Just stick to the usual precautions as everywhere and yes they have safes, not sure in room but they had them at the front desk which is sufficient. Good location, airport pick up nice rooms elevator girls and so on for 20 or 25$. You can book online-and no I don't work there and don't stay there either. too much money.
[QUOTE=Blueskies]I'm just curious as I will be in PP the 1st week of October. I've read many reports of the Flamingo with cell phones, cameras missing, too many people in room while cleaning and people wearing your clothes and not their's (I didn't hear of money missing though). I've never heard of that going on in VN. I've always felt secure leaving my stuff in the room or hotel. So, what is the fascination with this hotel? No reports like that in SR though. I've done my homework and read that the Flamingo has in room safes. Is that true. It it now does now have then I can understand staying there but without I have many doubts. How about the boat that leave the Royal Star Hotel. How long does it take to get from PP to SR? Thank you I WILL stay away from St 63, thanks all. I've learned something from your lesson, don't try and be so damn cheap! Bleached sheets are not bad, just very clean. Having done my homework "Sharkies" has a star next to it and "Heart of Darkness" night club just to hang out and check out the party people of PP. Any other GF Hotels? Looking foward to visiting Ankor what.
Flamingos does have in room safes and it's main advantage is it's central position and it is pretty quiet around here compared to the riverside.Nowadays it is nearly always full so that has to say something.
104 bar has many lovelies at the moment,sharkies and the walkabou have the same old faces.
Yeah, thanks Prince Harry. I'll be there the first week of October on my way to Angkor what. Looks like a good place to reserve a room once I get my flight confirmation. Is it GF? I know there's flights going there, you know how much from PP to Angkor. I have even heard of a boat that travels up the river. Is it a good way to travel to Angkor and how long does it take to take a slow boat to SR. I don't think the boat will be too expensive but the thought just popped up. I went to their website and the rooms look much better than the reports said. The location looks very good. But still I have to see Angkor.
[QUOTE=Blueskies]How about the boat that leave the Royal Star Hotel. How long does it take to get from PP to SR? [/QUOTE]The boat is not a good way to go, the road to SR is a good one and the bus made it in about 5 hours my last trip. Take the Mekong Express bus, located on riverfront. Get a moto to take you there 1day before you leave and buy the ticket. These buses are popular so tickets can be soldout if you just show up expecting to get onboard.
Don't take the cheap buses that leave from the Capitol guest house. The Mekong charges more but you get what you pay for and it's still cheap, under $10 sorry I don't remember exact prices even though it's less than 1 year still.
The boat costs over $20 and takes around 7 hours. In this case you don't get what you pay for since it's overpriced and a miserable trip. IMO.
The so call fast boat costs USD25.00 and Mekong Express Bus at USD10 per seat with a little refreshment given.
Both are from Phnom Penh to Siem Reap or vs.
[QUOTE=hutsori]To an extent it is, but it isn't set up as a place for the punters. It's a quiet place catering to couples and families, so exercise good judgment. I'd bring back a girl after midnight and have her out before 7 am, and I kept it low key. The front desk clerk didn't give me or the girls any hassle. Nice place w/ friendly staff. Rooms from $36 to $52.[/QUOTE]I would agree with that assessment of the Billabong. Terrific breakfast BTW. I arrived on a Sunday with a small supply of US dollars and plenty of US Travellers Cheques. Unlike Flamingo's they do not negoiate travellers cheques except when paying the bill on departure. The nice lady on reception also told me that I would be unable to cash T/C's anywhere on Sunday. In my room I perused the yellow pages and found entries for several banks which were open on Sunday. I strolled out to Monivong to the Cambodia Asia Bank and had no problem changing TC's with the usual 2% commission. I took great delight in informing the recepionist.
Just saw this posted on Flyertalk. I know it works for October dates, but possibly some September and early November flights too. Bookable on [url]www.travelocity.com[/url] and cheaptickets.com
This will probably disappear quickly, so jump on it.
What's the problem about Capitol Busses? I always took them to S.R., Poipet or Sihanoukville. Always on time. Never expierienced any problems like theft, breakdowns etc.
In late June I stayed at the Flamingo. After checking in, I tried to use the safe in the room. As usual I tried the safe first before putting my valuables inside. After locking the safe with my "secret" combination I cannot open the safe using the same combination. So I called reception and they duly send a staff. The staff easily opened the safe using the combination 1,2,3,4,5,6. He left the room and I was feeling rather happy that I can use the safe. I proceeded to use the safe by selecting another "secret combination". Before going out of the room I tested the safe by using 1,2,3,4,5,6 to open it and guess what? The safe opened! Later I asked the staff why he used 1,2,3,4,5,6 as his master combination number. He said it is supposed to be a secret and he asked me not to tell others. How to explain to him? I hope Flamingo have changed the "master combination" to a more random number. Sufficient to say I dare not use the safe. My old bag with 4-digits key combination felt safer. Brothers, beware of safes in budget hotels. In Kunming I had a similar safe story but that time the hotel staff carried away the safe to be repaired just like a rather heavy box. Would you feel "safe"?
Anyway Flamingo remain my favored place to stay in PP.
[QUOTE=That Asshole]Dear Opebo,
Thanks for the support. I would just like to make a note that "Humble Turd" is dead. He passed away about 6 months ago. Now sure he must be in Hell, where he deserves to be by his evil life. Before he passed out, he handed me his Will. And that was to follow in his footsteps.
Long live humble turd as we say in England, but why should mongers go to hell, its only because christain and other religions have decided that johns and prostitutes are against the law, and of course we get the witch hunts.
We mongers are giving money to poor woman, building up the economys of 3rd world countrys, "man" we mongers are life savers.
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[QUOTE=Vnmonger]In late June I stayed at the Flamingo. After checking in, I tried to use the safe in the room. As usual I tried the safe first before putting my valuables inside. After locking the safe with my "secret" combination I cannot open the safe using the same combination. So I called reception and they duly send a staff. The staff easily opened the safe using the combination 1,2,3,4,5,6. He left the room and I was feeling rather happy that I can use the safe. I proceeded to use the safe by selecting another "secret combination". Before going out of the room I tested the safe by using 1,2,3,4,5,6 to open it and guess what? The safe opened! Later I asked the staff why he used 1,2,3,4,5,6 as his master combination number. He said it is supposed to be a secret and he asked me not to tell others. How to explain to him? I hope Flamingo have changed the "master combination" to a more random number. Sufficient to say I dare not use the safe. My old bag with 4-digits key combination felt safer. Brothers, beware of safes in budget hotels. In Kunming I had a similar safe story but that time the hotel staff carried away the safe to be repaired just like a rather heavy box. Would you feel "safe"?
Anyway Flamingo remain my favored place to stay in PP.[/QUOTE]To VNmonger,
I never trust the in room safe in a 2-3 star hotel ,put your money in the hotel safe instead and I have got money stolen in a Pattaya Hotel few month ago lucky they only take 2000 bht I know it is done by hotel staff, I compain to owner and got a discount for my room so I know this happen before.
Fast eddie 48
Very bad news, guys. Sophie Club is no more, at least no more like we used to know. No more blow jobs, that is. I just came out from that club and am using the internet cafe next door. Apparently, since two days they are not allowed to engage in that activity anymore. I came here last Sunday and was still serviced, but today, Thursday night, I've got nothing at all apart from invitation to buy ladies' drinks.
After the two last drunkards got out the bartenders finally explained it to me. As long as there were people they only pretended not to speak English. They really should fucking be more explicit right away. Instead, they accept orders for drinks and say nothing unless you virtually torture them into explaining what happened.
When I came in today there was four people quietly speaking at the bar. At first I thought the girls would not do anything because these four were just hanging out there. I was kind of pissed and took a walk. When I came back, two drunkards were sitting there, just as unserviced as I was and as the four previous guys were. I started to hit the two ladies behind the bar with questions and only got the answer when the two drunkards went out.
This is very bad news and goes a step further in making Cambodia more and more boring as a sex tourism destination. Who knows whether normal activities will resume later or not. May or may not be, depending probably on proper protection money paid or not or maybe on so-called political will.
To be honest the blow jobs you would get there were not as good in quality as the ones you would get in Bangkok or Pattaya blow job bars but it was better than nothing and the sampling system was really kind of fun. Now you'll have to get your blow jobs the normal way, hiring a hooker or otherwise. No more cheap and quick jobs when you felt like getting some with your drink.
[QUOTE=Denom]I came here last Sunday and was still serviced, but today, Thursday night, I've got nothing at all apart from invitation to buy ladies' drinks.[/QUOTE]A rather disturbing details one way or the other. It was not Sunday when I was still serviced it was the day before, Wednesday night!! I remembered correctly this morning. Yesterday my brain was still kind of foggy it seems. I indeed went to Sophie on Sunday night but it was well after closing time at 1am and so the lights were off and stairway door closed. I went back Wednesday night at around 12h and it was then that I was serviced.
But then, how come I was still serviced with five sample BJ on Wednesday night when the ban was supposedly two days before Thursday night? It therefore either is not true (and would be a very bad joke indeed) or since I was the only one on Wednesday and it was near closing time they made an exception to the rule.
There were only about 7-8 girls when I arrived on Wednesday and the ambiance was closing time ambiance. I sat down, ordered drink, then the pant was unzipped and they started the show. Samples were OK but nothing outstanding so I passed over the actual deed. When I passed on the going to back room offer (I never do in Sophie) one of the older girl made a comment that if they knew I would not go to the back room they would not have given me sample. This was bullshit and I told her in no mild terms. I also ignored their claim for $3 a sample and just gave them the normal $1 price, which they seemed happy with. They also proposed to go all the way with the BJ after I declined the room, so everything seemed like normal on that day. I declined this last offer as well as I had great plans for the next day, and I am very happy I did as my plan turned out just that great indeed. The only reason I went to Sophie on Thursday night was because I was still horny just thinking about my experience during the day so I felt a second quick release was needed.
It seems strange that they would say sampling is only if you go to the back room. This has never been so in Sophie. Might be because they were going against the "new ban"? Or did they give me the cold shower on Thursday because of my behavior on the previous day? But then none of the six guys I saw there on Thursday seemed to have been serviced either...
Because of all this I am a bit in doubt about what is the real deal after all.
We therefore would need more confirmations than just my experience.
Who's next?
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Oh no can it really be true? SOPHIES closed? I was so looking forward to go to PP for party and play and so on, and one of the real attractions were, after reading this forum, to go to SOPHIES for the samples at the bar and so on.
What happened? NGO? Does anyone have opinon if it will regain its former working order?
What a pity. Change is usually not for the better.
Now that I come to think of it, do the girls in Cyrcee Club wear underwear now or not. I read in here that it use to be "not" and was changed to "on".
[QUOTE=First Lover]Now that I come to think of it, do the girls in Cyrcee Club wear underwear now or not. I read in here that it use to be "not" and was changed to "on".[/QUOTE]I have been to Cyrcee and checked under the dresses and there was a panty there.
Am in Siem Reap now no more PP so somebody else needs to check what's really happening or not at Sophie's.
Gentlemen,
Here is a field report that I have finally gotten around to writing after being back almost a month! My apologies if the information is a bit stale, but I think most of it will still be relevant.
I was in PP the first part of July for 3 nights, coming from BKK. I took the Air Asia flight, which has progressively gotten more expensive over time. $20 for the visa, but stupid me, for some reason I had no cash and I thought they would take my credit card. Fortunately, the visa guy, and the immigration official, allowed me to go beyond the immigration counters, into the area close to the baggage pick up, and use the ATM! Then I reversed back through immigration and paid for my visa, then walked back thorough immigration again! Very strange, but at least they used some common sense and let me at the ATM so I could enter their country and spend lots of my money.
I jumped on a motor bike, and he took me to Big Luck / Hong Kong for $2. The hotel was nice; I stayed on the 4th floor, king size bed, breakfast included, $25 a night. The pool was $2 extra, but not ‘per day’ as I mistakenly thought, but $2 ‘per session’. On my last day I used it twice, once in the afternoon and once in the evening, and they tried to charge me $4 on check out. However, to their credit, they waived it off as a mistake on my part, and only charged me $2. No in-room safe, but what appeared to be fairly secure lock boxes behind the front desk. No idea about WIFI, as I don’t travel in PP with a laptop, or even camera.
My first afternoon I walked around looking for something to do, and found out the Soho2 is closed. Knocked on the door, but was told by some westerner that he was just living there now, and not open. I thought it was just the time of day, but a later visit in the evening bore it out; sadly closed. I was looking forward to checking out the ‘tunnels’.
That same evening I went to Sophie’s. I have been to PP a few times, and know the system well enough, but this time, just as I’m settling in at the bar with my $5 'chosen one', I made the mistake of popping a vitamin V. The girl suddenly turns cold, figuring I’m going to take hours to shoot, and starts talking about ‘$5 for 5 minutes’ and ‘$10 till you pop’ etc. I politely decline the hard sell for the back room, finish my beer, and leave, clearly indicating I was not impressed with the new pricing structure, and vowing to tell all my friends on the internet about the poor service.
The rest of my time I spent mostly in the brothels, where the best value is to be had IMHO. I does take a clear head to avoid the rip offs, however. I find the best way to prevent them stealing money out of your pockets is to not take off your pants! I have done this countless times, and no money ever stolen. The girl lays down, I unzip, whip it out, and the deed is done. Often the girl complains because she knows that they won’t get any extra from my pockets, but I stand firm and get the job done. I have found that after visiting the same place few times, they don’t try to rip you off anymore. I do take off my kit for subsequent visits, and am usually shown to a regular room as well. I believe they have certain rooms that are set up for the rip off action; the regular rooms are where the girls actually live too.
I visited the place on the corner of 154 and Norodom about 6 times. There are two places side by side there, but I patronized only one. All girls $5 each, very cute, and they open early. I even went there about 11am on the second day. Another place I went to was on 63st and about 242st. The papa wanted $5 for the regular girls, but he wouldn’t budge from $10 for the cute ones. With much reluctance, I broke down and paid the money, but it was well worth it!
I hired a motorbike one night and he drove me all around town for some reconnaissance. We went to all the usual bars and areas, and some places off the track, like Tol Kouk. One new place (to me) he took me to was an area just south of Sihanouk Blvd on Sothearos. The driver told me it used to be some sort of dormitory or school for fine arts students. We stopped and I had a look around; not for the faint of heart! Some cute girls, but the conditions seemed lacking, and one mama quoted me $15. I did not even bother negotiating, but continued on my way. Perhaps on another visit I may come back to this area and investigate further. That evening I managed to poke my head into almost all the spots around town; $3 well spent.
I also patronized the 63st area around 184st. No problems, but I kept my pants on; $5 a pop. However, one establishment in this area I went into gave me a very bad feeling. I asked the girl for a BJ, but once she realized I was not going to remove my pants, she refused the deal. I simply walked out. On my way out I met another monger coming in and advised him to be careful with this place. Sure enough, about one minute later, he walked out too. Better safe than sorry, and there are lots of other providers.
I had dinner and beers many relaxing evenings on the riverfront, Tex Mex at Sharkey’s and nights under the PP stars. I also stocked up at the pharmacy; regular and generic Cialis, 4 caps, $5 and $4 respectively, generic Vitamin V, $9 for 20. $2 moto back to the airport, $25 departure tax, and I’m off back to BKK. Another great holiday in PP! I hope you find this information useful.
Sicer
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Im interested in a nice place where the action is simple and the girls are sweet and freindly .
Cambodia is an option but are there nice hotels that let the girls in .
John Jr
Looks like a nice place , any info or alternatives ?
can somebody who's in phnom penh now please check out sophies?
we can't believe that it could change.
we are going to be in pp in two weeks time, so some speedy info would be much appreciated.
[QUOTE=John Jr]Looks like a nice place , any info or alternatives ?[/QUOTE]Dear JJr,
Most hotel in PPtown are GF. As far as B'villier goes, I suspect strongly that it is, just bring in a gal and see what comes down. For sure, Calif2, Cara, Flamingo, Walkabout, Imperial Princess, New York and geeze take an hour and scan these reports for Hotel info.
NOT GF is the oddity.
Shamas O'D
While you're in SR, maybe you could check out Steung SR Hotel in the French Quarter and Angorland hotel. I'm looking for a good location within walking distance of the central market and mid priced, girl friendly. Any comments or suggestions appreciated. Thanks
[QUOTE=Vnmonger]In late June I stayed at the Flamingo. After checking in, I tried to use the safe in the room. As usual I tried the safe first before putting my valuables inside. After locking the safe with my "secret" combination I cannot open the safe using the same combination. So I called reception and they duly send a staff. The staff easily opened the safe using the combination 1,2,3,4,5,6. He left the room and I was feeling rather happy that I can use the safe. I proceeded to use the safe by selecting another "secret combination". Before going out of the room I tested the safe by using 1,2,3,4,5,6 to open it and guess what? The safe opened! Later I asked the staff why he used 1,2,3,4,5,6 as his master combination number. He said it is supposed to be a secret and he asked me not to tell others. How to explain to him? I hope Flamingo have changed the "master combination" to a more random number. Sufficient to say I dare not use the safe. My old bag with 4-digits key combination felt safer. Brothers, beware of safes in budget hotels. In Kunming I had a similar safe story but that time the hotel staff carried away the safe to be repaired just like a rather heavy box. Would you feel "safe"?[/QUOTE]Sophies closing down is a bummer for sure, but what is really disturbing is this recent report.
Flamingos used to have a fairly decent lock-box system behind the reception which never failed for me (although anyone in the lobby might see what you have stored in it, so discretion was advisable) where the box was sealed with your signature. When I recently stayed there again and found they have in-room safes I was very pleased they had modernised their sytem. It is a shock to discover that their 'master key' is just another 6-digit code. I thought that they also required a real key in combination with a code. And in terms of it being 'a secret' I can guarantee that at least three people from the hotel know the combination, not just one. Eg. The owner, head manager, assistant manager, (night manager? ).
This makes me wonder how many other hotels use this same system; a simple code which will unlock all the safes in the hotel. Many safes only use a 4-digit combination.
I remember a story about a guy staying in Angeles City who lost $1000s that was locked in his in-room safe. He was certain the safe was locked and that it was 'cracked' by a bargirl whom he had left in his room. Have also heard about security guards stealing from safes at a major hotel in AC and as a result they were subsequently fired (but the patrons didn't get their cash/belongings back). Perhaps the first story had the bargirl working with someone from inside. The girl was never seen again.
Cyrcee is up to the girl - some do some don't
Tomato Sauce Cock in Phnom Penh....
**** Brothel on 154 Street ****
It started in a "no-name" brothel on 154 street in Phnom Penh. There was something unusual about the condom. The contents looked strange. Unusually tinted, never seen it before. Anyway, went down the toilet, without much consideration. Then as the night was still young, That Asshole opted for another three-some with a couple of beauties at Circee Club.
It all went quite allright, lots of moaning, groaning and pussy pumping action. Then the time came for the finale, a huge farewell shot onto one of the Viet girls' cute young face. She wasn't quite sure about if she wanted to do it or not, budged a bit and when she agreed it was already too late, the contents got emptied all into the rubber bag, while nstill inside the juicy ****-hole of the bustier one.
***** Tomato-sauce Cock *****
It was strange again, and even more than before. That Asshole decided to sneak into the toilet alone and examine it. By the looks of it the useless rubber apparat was filled with some sort of "tomato-sauce" looking thing.
Where would that come from? Normally tomato does not form part of the Khmer diet and he had been staying there for a couple of weeks, the last remains of any saucey hot-dog from home would have been emptied out through his bowels ages earlier.
Nevertheless it seemed fortunate that the shot ended in the rubber, otherwise might have become an embarrassment in front of the two girls. They might think that he is strange or something, shooting red sperm instead of the ugly shade of grey most men do even in international sex-tourist circles.
***** Frothy Liquid ****
That was enough action for the day so he retired to his hotel room and just out of curiousity started to gently massage his own wrinkled, age-ridden sausage by his nicotine yellowed arthritic fingers. After all, that is what he was used to do for many years and it still felt a lot better than sex with any woman in any country. The outcome was as expected, pure tomato sauce looking, frothy liquid.
He frustatedly held in his hand the now useless meat-loaf. Made him think a bit too. What's going to happen next. He cannot go on fucking like this, as every time he shoots they would look at him strangely. Surely, Red Sperm is odd. Even in Pol Pot country.
***** Man-Struating? *****
Otherwise from the color change in penile-excrement he felt no different than usual. However he arrived in his thinking to the point that women apparently experience tomato-sauce like excrement from their cunts every month. That made him scared a bit. He caught something.
He was starting to menstruate like women do. Except that he was a man. So, he must have been "Man-struating". That's it! He must have been spending too much time with them "female animals" by doing 2-3 "short-times" every day and their dirty customs started to rub off on him too. That's scary. Soon was he gonna grow tits too? And start to paint his face? And lie? Fuck, no,no!!
***** Medium Sized Carrot *****
So, he decided to just take it easy for the next few days and avoid "contact". See what happens. But soon he also noticed another development. On one of those happy occasions when he managed to pass some motion through his shithole (quite constipated), drops of tomato-sauce looking stuff appeared on the tip of his cock. That's amusing. What's the connection?
The same thing happened when he attempted to please himself by inserting a medium-sized carrot - that he bought at the vegetable section of "Psar Tmei" (that is New Market in Khmer) - into his lower opening. This always used to be fun time but now made a mess of the white bed linen.
***** Infected....with Death *****
Not to worry, women do go through it every month, if they can bear it then so can he. At the end instead of total abstinence, he decided just to talk less with them and concentrate more on his pumping action. Anyway, there were still some moves to perfect and this seemed the perfect time to do it.
So, instead of 3 "short-times" a day he opted for 4 but with less talking or no chat whatsoever. After all, he argued that the "infection" always comes through the brain and by the ears. Also - to avoid embarrassment - he trained himself to withhold his sperm at each fuck and only massage it out in the privacy of his own bathroom at the end of the day.
Days and some weeks passed. The tomato sauce slowly dried out, first became substance like fine coffee granules and then totally disappeard. What was it all about? He still wonders. He is not a smart man, so he doesn't worry about things unnecessarily. However it was an interesting experience. Happened to anyone else?
BTW this was about a year ago. Ever since it's all just an ugly shade of gray like most men do even in international sex-tourist circles.
I recently (April 2007) Spent my first time in cambodia, but not my last time. I actually did not like so much, do not know why, maybe I have spent so much time in Thailand over the years, that I prefer I certan standard.
I have been to Thailand more than 40 times, I have a condo and a brand new car in Pattaya, and have a Thai girlfriend here in Norway. My Girlfriend and I, have lived toghether for more than 7 years now, and now I am getting really pist up about the hole situation. I have many Thai friends in Norway, and in Thailand. And know alot of people. I speak Thai, and now learning to read the shit too. Well as I have been there so much, and know all there litle secrets here in Norway, I have decided to Get the hell away from Thai people. In my city in Norway, I know about 200 Thai ladys, and ONLY 1 is a good lady, and thats NOT my girlfriend. This is no lie. All the others are out selling there bodys, lying to there husbands, playing cards, and talking lies with in there different groups, having huge fight with each other, involving knifes and broken botles. All of them have had contact with the local police, cause they have serius problems with anger managment. They have a fuse shorter than 1 mm. OK Many of them have bad husbands, but many of them have to good husbands too, the have 1 child togheter, and she have 3 more with 3 other Norwegian men, and he is staying home, paying for it all, while she is out, gambling away all the money she can find. They are lying to there husband, some times in the mobile, when I sit right next to them, and there husband is my friend, and she knows I speak Thai. She still will say " I stay with Thai friend" while she is with a new boyfriend. This have put me in many disturbing situations over the years, and now, I am just fed up with all of them. I have always thought that we must never judge a hole nation as the same, but now I have my doubts, I really think when it comes to Thai lady, about 95 % is the same. This is not my oppinion, but my experience.
So now to the question, as I sad before I did not really got the vibes in cambodia, but I REALLY loved the people, the smiles, there respect, and openes, and honesty.
I only spend 3 days there, so this is my first impression, and on my first day, meet this beutiful lady working in my hotel. We have since stayed in touch, and I can not forget her, now I am thinking of sell everything I have in Thailand, and stop going to that hell hole of a place. I am serius thinking of going down to cambodia, and take this lady back to Norway with me, and maybe later get married. I have never been married before, and turning 36 years now, I feel its about time.
As of cambodia, am I wrong about this, or are cambodian people much better than Thai people, or is it just me going to this country with me eyes shut?
What problem can I expect if married to a cambodian lady?
I doubt, it will be nearly as much as Thai ladies.
Is there anybody here who are married to a cambodian, and can give me a litle advice? In Return I can give advice on Thai ladies " Stay away, go on holiday with money, and live heart and brain home"
Sorry for any miss spelling, but english is not my first language, and this report was written in anger. But still true.
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[QUOTE=That Asshole]Tomato Sauce Cock
...he.. gently massage[d] his own ..'After all, that is what he was used to do for many years and it still felt a lot better than sex with any woman in any country.[/QUOTE]
That's only because you're using condoms. Masturbation will obviously be superior to plastic sex, simply because there is actual sensation.
As for the blood in your semen - I've had that before, usually after flying. It will normally last at most a day or two. A friend of mine had the same problem from taking lots of ibuprophen over a long period of time. Basically what is happening is small hemorages, apparently in your sperm-manufactories.
You are quite correct, nothing to worry about, and certainly no reason to visit a doctor (though I will admit I learned what I reported above from one, though not without suspecting it myself beforehand).
[QUOTE=Towoldse]I recently (April 2007) Spent my first time in cambodia, but not my last time. I actually did not like so much, do not know why, maybe I have spent so much time in Thailand over the years, that I prefer I certan standard.
I have been to Thailand more than 40 times, I have a condo and a brand new car in Pattaya, and have a Thai girlfriend here in Norway. My Girlfriend and I, have lived toghether for more than 7 years now, and now I am getting really pist up about the hole situation. I have many Thai friends in Norway, and in Thailand. And know alot of people. I speak Thai, and now learning to read the shit too. Well as I have been there so much, and know all there litle secrets here in Norway, I have decided to Get the hell away from Thai people. In my city in Norway, I know about 200 Thai ladys, and ONLY 1 is a good lady, and thats NOT my girlfriend. This is no lie. All the others are out selling there bodys, lying to there husbands, playing cards, and talking lies with in there different groups, having huge fight with each other, involving knifes and broken botles. All of them have had contact with the local police, cause they have serius problems with anger managment. They have a fuse shorter than 1 mm. OK Many of them have bad husbands, but many of them have to good husbands too, the have 1 child togheter, and she have 3 more with 3 other Norwegian men, and he is staying home, paying for it all, while she is out, gambling away all the money she can find. They are lying to there husband, some times in the mobile, when I sit right next to them, and there husband is my friend, and she knows I speak Thai. She still will say " I stay with Thai friend" while she is with a new boyfriend. This have put me in many disturbing situations over the years, and now, I am just fed up with all of them. I have always thought that we must never judge a hole nation as the same, but now I have my doubts, I really think when it comes to Thai lady, about 95 % is the same. This is not my oppinion, but my experience
As of cambodia, am I wrong about this, or are cambodian people much better than Thai people, or is it just me going to this country with me eyes shut
Is there anybody here who are married to a cambodian, and can give me a litle advice? In Return I can give advice on Thai ladies " Stay away, go on holiday with money, and live heart and brain home"
What kind of Thai woman has your friends chosen to date with, some men will go with these ladys like this, because the man wants to butterfly or go with other woman himself,
You have said yourself that you do know a nice thai lady.
As for cambodian woman some can be like Thai woman, I have dated a Cambodian woman, who in the end I told her that I was not in love with her, so I paid her money and never saw her again, I met one of her friends who works in sharky bar in Phnom Penh and said that she married a german man.
I went to send you an E mail but could not, I could have given you more information choc dee, nicknoy.
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I am a Black American. Went over to Heart on Monday and was refused entry.
Just was told you cannot enter. Went there the previous week and had no problem getting in.
Either something occurred within that 1 week span or management feels too many minorities are frequenting the place and the demographic population of minorities are not in their best interest. When I have visited, there were quite a number of Africans customers. But their friendly chatting up the girls and other customers. Anyways, if someone is in PP now and has the “skinny” on what went down, I would appreciate it.
TC.
it is unusual to see recognisable blood in semen or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url]. please go to a doctor and get it checked out. it could be as simple as passing a stone or as serious as cancer.
Last week, I went for a massage after a long over-land trip from Ho Chi Minh city, so surprise I saw a young and sexy russian girl there, I took her out to my hotel room just a few doors from there, clean and girl-friendly hotel Frangipani Villa, I had a 1 hour massage for only $6, then sex with her for another $30, she ask for $50, really great experience with russian girl at that price.
Yang Chou Massage - No. 28R, Street 252, Sangkat Chaktomuk, Khan Daun Penh, Phnom Penh.
Frangipani Villa - 20R, St. 252. Sangkat Chatomuk, Khan Daun Penh.
Have Fun.
Sorry, I promised her to inform everybody her name is VICTORIA.
[QUOTE=Niknoy]I have been to Thailand more than 40 times, I have a condo and a brand new car in Pattaya, and have a Thai girlfriend here in Norway. My Girlfriend and I, have lived toghether for more than 7 years now, and now I am getting really pist up about the hole situation. I have many Thai friends in Norway, and in Thailand. And know alot of people. I speak Thai, and now learning to read the shit too. Well as I have been there so much, and know all there litle secrets here in Norway, I have decided to Get the hell away from Thai people. In my city in Norway, I know about 200 Thai ladys, and ONLY 1 is a good lady, and thats NOT my girlfriend. This is no lie. All the others are out selling there bodys, lying to there husbands, playing cards, and talking lies with in there different groups, having huge fight with each other, involving knifes and broken botles. All of them have had contact with the local police, cause they have serius problems with anger managment. They have a fuse shorter than 1 mm. OK Many of them have bad husbands, but many of them have to good husbands too, the have 1 child togheter, and she have 3 more with 3 other Norwegian men, and he is staying home, paying for it all, while she is out, gambling away all the money she can find. They are lying to there husband, some times in the mobile, when I sit right next to them, and there husband is my friend, and she knows I speak Thai. She still will say " I stay with Thai friend" while she is with a new boyfriend. This have put me in many disturbing situations over the years, and now, I am just fed up with all of them. I have always thought that we must never judge a hole nation as the same, but now I have my doubts, I really think when it comes to Thai lady, about 95 % is the same. This is not my oppinion, but my experience[/QUOTE]Before you paint a population of over 60 million with that wide stroke of yours, think about where you are finding these girls?
You can take the girl out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of ther girl
[QUOTE=King Squared]Before you paint a population of over 60 million with that wide stroke of yours, think about where you are finding these girls?
You can take the girl out of the ghetto but you cant take the ghetto out of ther girl[/QUOTE]This was not written by me, it was written by Towoldse a man from Norway, my submit is at the bottom of this piece.
Am glad to see that there are people in this forum who question what the Main Stream Media pushes down your brains.
And like they say- When the asshole shuts up- the body system blows. So keep talking. Dont ever stop.
[QUOTE=That Asshole]Gentlemen,
If you have been shocked then that article has served it's purpose well. But do you always believe everything you read and hear?
1./Do you believe that the Twin Towers were blown up by "terrorists"?
2./ Do you believe that AIDS is actually an "illness"?
3./ Do you believe that smoking causes cancer?
If you do believe all those than you are like children.
Did you notice the name of the author? It is some "Carol" , - a woman. Did you notice who it was commissioned for? For USAID, a well known feminist "charitable" (charitable??) organisation. This organisation is run by people who in fact derive their income from the "charitable work" they do. The greater the shock, the greater the donations they receive (mostly from women). Especially if the story mentions "sex, abuse, evil men, etc".
These are the same people riding around Phnom Penh in Landcruisers and Lexus 4WD trucks. They receive 5 figure salaries, in dollars. Have a look at St. 240 and around in PP.
Please, be realistic. Couldn't we write a report to prove anything we want to prove? Even the total opposite as they did? Of course it could be done. If someone would pay me as much as they did get paid for it, I promise I will make a report just as long, just as convincing and full of "facts" that I gather - stating the exact opposite of it all.
Please be men and don't act like children. If you believe all that crap than legally you shouldn't be able to view this, because it's only for over 18's.
Killer condoms, my knee. Be real. It was written to shock and to raise more funds. Wake up, wake up. Are the feminists successful again in making us become total fools?
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Think, please think![/QUOTE]
I walked into La Cyrcée one Sunday at 18:00. Friendly place, friendly owner. The girls were getting ready for work and my favorite soon appeared dressed in a luscious robe.
From what I learned, [url]http://www.4womenoftheworld.com[/url] is the culprit. Some American, it says, took pictures of girls from Sophie's, Walkabout and Mikado and published them on his site. The Cambodian authorities didn't like the publicity and threatened to close down these establishments. Two of them paid - and one didn't and is now closed. Now don't ask me how the city fathers should have known about this site, but that's the story I got and there may be many more. At any rate, there is no sign of any other crackdown.
There were many girls around trying to push very gently for a threesome, foresome or handsome, but me and my sweetheart stayed firm. I payed for the drinks and the fees for a short-time upstairs when the lights went off. A ten minute wait and I could convince my darling to move to my hotel. She chose the moto outside and we had a wonderful time until the morning. There is nothing like a warm, open, good smelling young body next to yours in the middle of the night.
I tried searching, but couldn't find any info. I'll be coming to PNH in October, and usually get some shirts done in Bangkok. I'd prefer to keep the money in Cambodia if I can find a good quality/price in a local tailor.
If anyone has firsthand knowledge, I'd love to hear from them.
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I tried searching, but couldn't find any info. I'll be coming to PNH in October, and usually get some shirts done in Bangkok. I'd prefer to keep the money in Cambodia if I can find a good quality/price in a local tailor.
If anyone has firsthand knowledge, I'd love to hear from them.[/QUOTE]The free magazines in PNH bars have a [small] list of tailors.
it is nice of you to take your money to Cambodia, but Bangkok really is the best place to get your tailored shirts done.
In reply to towoldse re thai v cambodian women,in my experience the cambodians are vastly different.
I,too have observed a community of thai women in australia for more than 25 years.I have seen amongst 95% of these women compulsive gambling,constant infidelity and shameful treatment of children.I know thai born kids in jail,dead from drug overdoses and some deportations.
I believe that the cambodians are missing many of the thai traits,some women gamble but the stakes are modest,they are less vain and self centred and less likely to blatantly lie.
In common with the thai is the responsability that they feel for the family and the family often take advantage of the working girl who has the capacity to earn good money.Less cambodian taxi girls have children,very few have tatoos and they spend far less on jewellry,makeup and their hair.
I took a cambodian girl to australia and the culture shock was as extreme as it is with a thai,they are not adaptable.
To me the cambodians character reflects their history of being sandwiched between the greedy thai and the voracious vietnamese.
[QUOTE=Niknoy]The free magazines in PNH bars have a [small] list of tailors.
it is nice of you to take your money to Cambodia, but Bangkok really is the best place to get your tailored shirts done.[/QUOTE]Ditto on the BKK Tailors... I travel to BKK once a year just to get suits made because of the quality and the price...
N_R
Thanx man, just what I needed to hear, I think I will forfill my Cambodian "dream girl" and see what happend. My biggest problem amongst thai, is the lie and lie and lie. They soon forget what they lie about, so then come another lie. What can I expect from a Cambodian? You know? I am ready to help with family and all that, but I will not stand another lie. In my oppinion, I do not think Cambodian are the same as thai in this point. But what the hell do I know, I only been there for 3 days.
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]In reply to towoldse re Thai v Cambodian women, in my experience the Cambodians are vastly different.
I, too have observed a community of Thai women in Australia for more than 25 years. I have seen amongst 95% of these women compulsive gambling, constant infidelity and shameful treatment of children. I know thai born kids in jail, dead from drug overdoses and some deportations.
I believe that the Cambodians are missing many of the thai traits, some women gamble but the stakes are modest, they are less vain and self centred and less likely to blatantly lie.
In common with the thai is the responsability that they feel for the family and the family often take advantage of the working girl who has the capacity to earn good money. Less Cambodian taxi girls have children, very few have tatoos and they spend far less on jewellry, makeup and their hair.
I took a Cambodian girl to Australia and the culture shock was as extreme as it is with a thai, they are not adaptable.
To me the Cambodians character reflects their history of being sandwiched between the greedy thai and the voracious vietnamese. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]In reply to towoldse re Thai v Cambodian women, in my experience the Cambodians are vastly different.
I, too have observed a community of Thai women in Australia for more than 25 years. I have seen amongst 95% of these women compulsive gambling, constant infidelity and shameful treatment of children. I know thai born kids in jail, dead from drug overdoses and some deportations.
I believe that the Cambodians are missing many of the thai traits, some women gamble but the stakes are modest, they are less vain and self centred and less likely to blatantly lie.
In common with the thai is the responsability that they feel for the family and the family often take advantage of the working girl who has the capacity to earn good money. Less Cambodian taxi girls have children, very few have tatoos and they spend far less on jewellry, makeup and their hair.
I took a Cambodian girl to Australia and the culture shock was as extreme as it is with a thai, they are not adaptable.
To me the Cambodians character reflects their history of being sandwiched between the greedy thai and the voracious vietnamese. [/QUOTE]About 10 years ago i come into a bit of money,i went to Amsterdam which was OK, but boy when i went to Thailand i went nuts, throwing money at bargirls,
since the 1970`s this is what happend in Thailand, poor woman suddenly getting loads of money from sex tourist, and like you said there family`s take advantage of the girl which makes her act like she doe`s
Cambodia only came out of the Khmar Rouge since the 1970`s and is still developing, Cambodian goverment will not allow Gogo`s like Bangkok/pattaya, and of course you have vietnamese woman muscling in, in the night life
I have met a few cambodian woman that are a "little" like there Cambodian sisters, but you know, we all need to get money from somewere.
oh and by the way, i don`t have any money to go to SE asia next year, so if any mongers want to put a few thousand dollars my way, only joking mr jackson LOL.
[QUOTE=DK Lee]Last week, I went for a massage after a long over-land trip from Ho Chi Minh city, so surprise I saw a young and sexy russian girl there, I took her out to my hotel room just a few doors from there, clean and girl-friendly hotel Frangipani Villa, I had a 1 hour massage for only $6, then sex with her for another $30, she ask for $50, really great experience with russian girl at that price.
Yang Chou Massage - No. 28R, Street 252, Sangkat Chaktomuk, Khan Daun Penh, Phnom Penh.
Frangipani Villa - 20R, St. 252. Sangkat Chatomuk, Khan Daun Penh.
Have Fun.[/QUOTE]
Nice report, thank you. Thinking for a side trip from BKK mid September.
Any further info on the hotel? Prices, Tel, pictures of the facilities etc?
Thanks
El Greco
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I tried searching, but couldn't find any info. I'll be coming to PNH in October, and usually get some shirts done in Bangkok. I'd prefer to keep the money in Cambodia if I can find a good quality/price in a local tailor.
If anyone has firsthand knowledge, I'd love to hear from them.[/QUOTE]To jamito,
Yes you can get a good deal and quality suite in Cambodia and bangkok but the best taylor is in Hong kong and singapore , I purchase 2 suite in bangkok a few yr ago they just don't fitted right , yes you can saved a few buck but why not spend a few more dollar it is still alot less than you pay in US .
Just my IMHO
Fast eddie 48
Generally speaking the Khmer people are more lay back and friendly than their thai counterparts, although they can get as pissed off as anyone can if you treat them badly. Acid attacks happen in Cambodia. We are all defined to a certain level by our experiances. Thailand was once a great place for a good genuine holiday. Times have changed for various reasons especially for mongers. The lies/scams are all to common. This is also true in Cambodia to a smaller extent. I have been lied to many times by girls but only the more harmless stuff like " I stay you long time ". This may/may not change in the futue as it did in Thailand. The common thread is they are all working girls with a limited time to make money. If you want a girl to marry then take your time and find yourself a non " working girl ".
Towoldse,
I read your post about the thai girls and your dream to get married to a Cambodian. I can only guess its a taxi girl of sorts since you only spent a few days here and are looking for a sex shop also. If you had a regular girl you would now teach her french kissing. From your thai experiences I deduct that you might not have the deepest understanding of the asian mentality and culture. Blaming everything on the thai liers is not the answer to your ignorance. The fact that you want to marry a girl you just met in April shows that you might not really know much about marriage and women in general. When people, and not just girls tell you things here the truth as you know it varies quite a bit. I find it hard to explain I've only been here 5 years myself but they have a different take on things like that. And not to screw you over necessarily. If you want to really be with them and enjoy it you have to be cool and learn how to be a player. Not just assume people are the same the world over. It is a very complex topic but to make it simple: you should not marry anybody unless you know them well, lets say 3 years or so and you know what you're getting into. On the other hand you should also understand that there has to be symmetry for it to work. If your girl is a lot younger and better looking than you you have to make up for it in cash. Take your time there is always a lot more where the last one came from. Avoid drama.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To jamito,
Yes you can get a good deal and quality suite in Cambodia and bangkok but the best taylor is in Hong kong and singapore , I purchase 2 suite in bangkok a few yr ago they just don't fitted right , yes you can saved a few buck but why not spend a few more dollar it is still alot less than you pay in US .
[/QUOTE]
I only need shirts, nothing more. I'm going to be in PNH, and was planning on not going out of the country. I've been to HK before, and the hard sell tailors there are not of my liking. Maybe their product is fine, but I'll never know, since they they're so aggressive trying to get you in the door.
I'm looking for a local PNH tailor. Got a recommendation?
[QUOTE=Niknoy]The free magazines in PNH bars have a [small] list of tailors.
it is nice of you to take your money to Cambodia, but Bangkok really is the best place to get your tailored shirts done.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I know, but I'd rather not pay $200 to fly to BKK, stay a few days to get $200 worth of shirts made. Especially with the dollar/baht ratio these days.
[QUOTE=Driver SovanMee]I always brough my repeat customers to tailors shops around independent manument along Sihanouk BLV. He's always satified with quality and prices. Everytimes he's in PP order 3suites, 10shirts, 3pants and 1 sarfary. So, I would like recomment that places to you. Sir.[/QUOTE]
Thank you! At least you didn't tell me to go to BKK! :)
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Yeah, I know, but I'd rather not pay $200 to fly to BKK, stay a few days to get $200 worth of shirts made. Especially with the dollar/baht ratio these days.[/QUOTE]I did not know that you was in PP, I assumed you was in Bangkok.
I haven't been for a few months. But newbies to PP may be interested.
In Phnom Penh, this is my take after half-a-dozen trips (thanks to other posters who've sure helped me).
Stayed once in the place that used to be called the Sharaton Hotel (no relation to US chain. Name changed now anyway). Has a big gangster-style disco on main floor next to lobby. Really hot Vietnamese babes there waiting for the corrupt-rich-bureaucrat-son to arrive. Seriously. Body guards the lot. It's around the corner from what Phnom Penh. Needed ear plugs to sleep. But very GF.
Up side was I found a P4P girl at one of the bars on the roundabout by the what, took her back. Popped her twice that night. Sownside was I had be'fast with her and returned to the room to realise she stole the TV remote. Yes, the remote control for the TV. She seemed a reluctant shag. Maybe that's why she took an extra 'tip' on her way out the door. Also shows you how desparately poor some of these people are. I forget how much for LT but probably around 20USD
Another time I stayed at the Phnom penh Hotel. Quite an upmarket joint except for the Chinese sex tourists. Drunk, loud and spitting in the hallways. Sure there's where you want your tourism industry headed! Was with biz folks so didn't partake. I reckon it was GF though.
Another time I stayed at the Goldiana. A real fleebag used by NGO types etc. Had a VN girl from Martinis there. 20 USD LT. GF.
Sophies is the best though. Walk in sit down at the bar and they are giving you BBBJ at the bar and taking turns at it.
Chose two sisters! Yup. The palce had a side room. It was great. Hear it may be shut down. Check location on the other posts here.
Massage: Forget it. Unless others know better than me. You just get an expensive massage. Not worth it
RM
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[QUOTE=RonnieMonger]Massage: Forget it. Unless others know better than me. You just get an expensive massage. Not worth it
RM[/QUOTE]There is very good massage place in PP just cros the street from Flamingo hotel.
$10 for 1.5h
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]In reply to towoldse re thai v cambodian women,in my experience the cambodians are vastly different.
I, too have observed a community of thai women in australia for more than 25 years.I have seen amongst 95% of these women compulsive gambling, constant infidelity and shameful treatment of children.I know thai born kids in jail, dead from drug overdoses and some deportations.[/QUOTE]In my long job career, I had the opportunity to work with some Thai people (both men and women) at my work site once in my life back in the states (I now live/work in Canada).
My impression: Fairly lazy bunch. Tried to do less than minimal work (just barely enough not to get fired). Made faces when you ask them to do a little extra to help as sometimes we all needed to fill in when others are either on vacation or out sick. This was just my own impression of the 5 or so Thais I had to work with, your experiences may vary. So, I'm not saying this reflects all Thais in general, just the ones I had to work with.
PT
I understand the going price for LT is about $20. What would you guys consider fair for a girl from a bar like Dollhouse, staying overnight for the course of a few days like a Pattaya girl?
Mind you she is getting meals and shampoo and all that other shit as a consequence of being my GF for the time being. Should the LT fee be the extent of it?
[QUOTE=Minimus]I understand the going price for LT is about $20. What would you guys consider fair for a girl from a bar like Dollhouse, staying overnight for the course of a few days like a Pattaya girl?
Mind you she is getting meals and shampoo and all that other shit as a consequence of being my GF for the time being. Should the LT fee be the extent of it?[/QUOTE]Two PP girls once gave me a number for (very) LT-Rate. One asked for 150$/month after being kicked out of her family's home. The other asked for 300$/month.
Both were freelancers mostly hanging out at Walkabout/Martini.
hi fellow mongers (and ngos)
trip after trip, i find pp a harder and harder place to monger. yes, there are the martinis (overpriced and mechanical service) and the in-room massages ($40 for fs, cbj), the few vietnamese brothels (100% chanced of getting your stuff stolen), occasional street walkers (drug users and smelly under-ams), the bbbj bars (russian roulette, a recipe for burning urinairy track). closing k11 was probably right, but we (mongers and probably ngos) know where to find exactly the same girls. it just moves to another place. a big waste of time and the wrong methods, of the goal is to address ****philia and drug abuse.
i support keeping children safe and avoid drug rampage, but what is going on with trying to stop the oldest business on the world? are the ngos in lack of usefull projects to tackle? what about people in need of clean water and energy? what about refugees? what about malaria, hiv, ? border crossings? orphans? . how come countries like thailand are able to manage well and cambodia not?
i feel disappointed when i find a nice 'guest house' with smiling service, even with my cambodian friends, but we get rejected because they are affraid i am an ngo and will report the place or other malicious threat.
or am i just in the wrong places or misunderstand the whole thing? ngos feel free to comment.
cheers.
bbb
Nothings changed, although I am a regular the last few years. Brought a friend and got the usual sampling and offer for the back room. took her in worked the poll a bit more and then nailed her.
The girls are a mixed bag.
Cyrcee, took a set that bragged about the lesbian show they did , the one had a nasty white discharge and luckily for the other girl she just faked it by puttinjg her finger there and making load ass licking sounds which drew my attention to the scam.
Been great but after this I may or may not be back. Was told at the end my friend was waiting and was going to leave, so hurry and catch him, I was almost done and popped and got out. He was just relaxing and explained he had said no such thing. In fact still had a nearly full beer.
Best o' luck,
off to Sharkeys for a Burrito.
Barang
[QUOTE=Luludinky]Very sad news guys, the lovely Srey Lisa from Barbados just passed away very suddenly 8 days ago from dengue fever.
She was one of my regular and I just had spent a very nice afternoon 2 days before she died. She was a nice fine girl, I just wanted to pay her a little tribute her, she really deserves it. Another shattered life in Cambodia...[/QUOTE]I never thought at that age she died suddenly.
Are you sure it's a dengue fever?
There are 4 types of Dengue virus'. If you survive it the 1st time you gain immunity from that version of the virus, but it also weakens your resistance to the other 3 versions of Dengue.
I spent this last weekend in PP staying at Flamingo Hotel.
There is an ANZ Royal Bank ATM in hotel lobby, the hotel staff said it can dispense in both Riel & USD. Should be convenient to hotel customers.
On my arrival, I had my transportation thus did not use hotel's free pick-up service, I thought that this complimentary one way transfer is in either direction but found out that it is not the case.
When I checked out to go to airport, I was asked to pay for 7 USD transportation fee. Tried to argue that it supposed to be in eother way but the hotel staff insisted that it is free for only airport pick-up but not vice versa.
Nearby the hotel, there is a mini mart next to Shanghai bar supplying daily necessities and some snacks. But if more variety is sought then best bet is to go for the Sorya shopping center which is 5 minutes walking distance from the Flamingo.
The Lucky super market on ground floor of Sorya is big and probably has best stock of all imported food stuffs and daily necessities. I found price to be reasonable and the goods originated from various countries like China, Korea, Thailand, France, Germany, etc.
Food court on 4th floor of Sorya is not bad as well, it is the same type as those you would find in other Southeast Asian countries where you buy coupons and browse through 30-40 or so shops to buy and brong your food to look for table to dine yourself. It is a place where reasonably priced food can be found in better hygiene and in A/C area if you are tired with street side vendors or food in the market.
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As mentioned by several forum members, I found the So Cheat pharmacy loacted close to Central Market and the Sorya shopping center.
Latest price quoted for Kamagra was 2 USD / pack of 4 tablets and Zeagra 1.8 USD / pack.
Upon enquiring on bulk of 10 each, Kamagra dropped to 1.8 USD / pack and Zeagra 1.5 USD / pack.
Other pharmacies nearby quoted something like 2.5 - 3 USD.
PP is probably one of the cheapest place to get these pills IMHO.
[QUOTE=Saint Jack]As mentioned by several forum members, I found the So Cheat pharmacy loacted close to Central Market and the Sorya shopping center.
Latest price quoted for Kamagra was 2 USD / pack of 4 tablets and Zeagra 1.8 USD / pack.
Upon enquiring on bulk of 10 each, Kamagra dropped to 1.8 USD / pack and Zeagra 1.5 USD / pack.
Other pharmacies nearby quoted something like 2.5 - 3 USD.
PP is probably one of the cheapest place to get these pills IMHO.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Saint Jack - those posts have helpful info for visitors to PP. Do you know if the kamagra and zeagra are standardly available without Rx in Cambodia, or is that an under the table deal?
I am returning to Phnom Penh mid october..ready to run wild again after 9 months! i have a new user name..but if you read about "S-ville teenybopper"
or this story: ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=937&page=22&pp=15[/url])
You know I'm up to something good.
PM me if interested in beers, happy pizza, and bars.
[QUOTE=Stew2]Thanks Saint Jack - those posts have helpful info for visitors to PP. Do you know if the kamagra and zeagra are standardly available without Rx in Cambodia, or is that an under the table deal?[/QUOTE]As far as I know of or from my past experience, buying medicines in Cambodia never requires a prescription (in practice), though the law may regulate it? ( or not I don't know)
It's not like Thailand where there is enforced regulation on these medicine control thus you have to aquire it under the table, but in Cambodia pharmacies are openly selling it.
The flamingo only provide transport one way free,from the airport.the standard fee is $7 from the airport with a cab from there and the is the same price as the hotel charges.
Phnom penh now has a fleet of twenty metred,air con cabs.I think that it is a vietnamese company and it should be a big improvement for us here.
[QUOTE=Stew2]Thanks Saint Jack - those posts have helpful info for visitors to PP. Do you know if the kamagra and zeagra are standardly available without Rx in Cambodia, or is that an under the table deal?[/QUOTE]No prescription needed. I saw some of these drugs even at Orange supermarket, including Apcalis (a generic of Cialis). I would stay away from the latter as it may be a fake or has probably lost its activity in storage. Cialis should be stored at temperatures below 26°.
Hopped on Air Asia for a weekend trip to Phnom Penh, stayed at Flamingo Hotel as usual at 20 USD / night.
Spending most of the day wandering around town for work related activities, but couldn't wait for the night to come down for more interesting activities.
Rented car with driver and went for dinner on the other side of Tonle Pasak river wehre there are tens of restaurants lying on both side of the road going out of town to Siemreap. My driver took me to one call "Tata" where they have stage with live band and singer, dancers entertaining the guest.
Food was OK with 3 dishes ordered to be shared by 2 costing almost 20 USD.
Upon heading back to town, requested for a stopover to pick up some night time companion. The driver stopped at a shophouse around 144th or 154th street not far from Flamingo.
There is pink neon light coming out from the house to give you some sort of hint that lady is provided inside. All girls are Vietnamese and they quickly lined up in chairs to let me scrutinize. Asked through the driver for price and was quoted 10 USD ST on the spot including A/C room upstairs and 50 USD LT.
I said there must be some misunderstanding as I never paid that much, finally settled for 30 USD LT but mamasan did not go lower as the night was still young (sometime after 9pm) so there is some opportunity cost in the price. Driver said it's posisble to come down to 20-25 USD if it is later in the night.
My companion of the night was not smiling much but has egg shaped face with hair partly highlighted to be light brown or like blonde. With my limited Vietnamese skill, I only manage to know that her name is Loen, 18 yearsold from Chau Doc. She seemed to be quite happy that I speak some Vietnamese, but that all I can speak and the rest of the night it was mostly action and sign language plus simple words like "Good!", "No Good!"
She happened to be more GF like than I thought; French kissing and that seemed to turn her on. It was good fun that we both enjoyed in various positions; the only drawback was when I asked for BJ and she said NO and YOU, NO GOOD!
I did not want to ruin the good atmosphere thus not pushing to go for BJ but still able to enjoy in other different ways. After the deed is done, she curled herself like a small kitten into my arm and used one of my arm as pillow while having my body wrapped around her. I felt just like lying with my girlfriend and she behaved like needing warmth from a man; it made me feel so good and we just slept like that.
Occasionally changing the pose but still hugging her in some way, sometimes I careless her and she responded to move closer to me. At one point, feeling that my little brother got aroused once again and she noticed that and we started kissing again and go for it.
Another good session and I checked my watch which said it's just before 5 am; I felt good that she did not refused or show any dissatisfaction for an early morning session like that. Probably she had the same feeling and enjoyed it too so that's why.
Sending her off in the morning and soon receive call from hotel clerk as usual
"Sir, your lady go home OK?"
"OK, no problem"
Went back to bed to get some more rest as I know that I have to spare energy for more actions when the night falls. To be reported in Part II to come.
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As I started this trip, I have the intention to try out new venues other than Martini or Sophie which I went last time; so the first night I got the driver took me to one of the lady house with all Vietnamese girls as in my earlier report.
The following night I didn't want to go too far from the hotel thus decided to try Shanghai bar just next to Flamingo. I got some suggestion earlier that girls there are not bad at all so wanna check it out.
Inside the bar there are small and large TV screens showing scoccer match, but since it's dark and I want to see girls clearer so I chose to sit in couches outside. Was escorted by a small and rather fair skin Khmer girl - Heng to the seat.
Ordered my beer - Angkor draft which is reasonably priced at 1.5 USD and started some chat with the girls as there were 2 who came to sit at my table.
One acted as translator as the other almost speak no English except for just a few words.
Small talk and sipping beer to while away time. I asked the girl who can speak English how much does the other one want if I want to take her back to my place. She purposedly say "Me?" and I said "No, the other one" and pointing to the one I am interested. So, she translated and exchanged a few words.
Then the girl asked her friend how to respond to my question in English "Up to you", so I took her words and soon after asked for the bill. Once the bill came and also another girl who speaks English to explain me that there is 5 USD bar fine to take out the girl, but the bar management usually not agree to bar fine giel if the bill is so little as mine (1 beer @ 1.5 USD), they are looking for more spending from customer before taking out thier girl. So, she advised me to take more beer or order ladt drink for the girl.
I thought for a moment and agreed as suggested, later to find out that lady drink (soft drink like cola, etc.) is more expensive than my drink @ 2 USD each.
Anyway, I felt OK with this as the girls did not impse or ask for lady drink even though sitting with me for an hour or so.
Finally we went back to the hotel and hugging and not much word spoken as we have language barrier. This is the girl who welcomed and escorted me to sit when I first got into the bar and the chemistry seems to be matching and lead to finally having her in my room, my sixth sense was not wrong for this; except for the breast which look like reasonable size was by the aide of some stuffing or so.
She showed me her ID card which indicates that she's 27 instead of 25 as she told me at the bar; I asked here about this and she smiled. As the chemisty was right, I think we both enjoyed and it was quite GFE.
Early morning my little brother stood up again so I went for the second session; but this is time it took quote long time (for me) more than 45 minutes of pumping from different angle by both her and me but I could not finish it. My first time ever that got so tired and called it quit without coming.
But we hugged again and I have to prepare myself to fly back, so gave her 100,000 Riels (around 25 USD) and kissed her goodbye.
Overall, my weekend trip to PP was very satisfactory on mongering aspect and I got on plane with my tired body but filled up feeling.
Hello,
I will be visiting PP in december because I live in the Netherlands I wonder what is the easiest way for paying. Get $ in my country and pay things like hotels and girls with$ or just use atm over there and get Cambodian currency?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Frits
Fantastic report SJ. Thanks for the details.
I was wondering how do you go about asking for only viet brothels?
Do you simply say viet or is there a translation term.
Thanks,
Harry
[QUOTE=Fritsvanegter]Hello,
I will be visiting PP in december because I live in the Netherlands I wonder what is the easiest way for paying. Get $ in my country and pay things like hotels and girls with$ or just use atm over there and get Cambodian currency?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Frits[/QUOTE]To Frits,
Bring US currency or thai baht and carry small bill one dollar us or 20 baht for moto bike , there are a few bank in town will cash euro or traveler check but you will have a hard time .
Fast eddie 48
There's a fair old range of ways of getting money in PP.
Bring cash as you suggest.
ATMs
Quite a few of the moneychanger types/banks will do cash advances on Visa/Mastercard paid out in $.
Basically treat it as a normal trip overseas and try and have a range of options available to you.
One thing that is unusual in Cambodia generally is that US$ are completely interchangeable with Riel. You even go to the supermarket with dollars or riel or a combination of both and get change back in dollars or riel or a combination of both (at random depending on what is in the till).
All shops, hotels, girls, fruit vendors in the market, taxis. Anyone in the country really, will treat $1 as 4000 riel and vice versa. The only exception to this is more formal places (bank, places with an electronic till that handle 2 currencies) where the exchange rate will be (I think) 3950 to 1.
For all intents and purposes, having a pocket full of Riel is a more voluminous way of having a pocket full of dollars.
[QUOTE=Fritsvanegter]Hello,
I will be visiting PP in december because I live in the Netherlands I wonder what is the easiest way for paying. Get $ in my country and pay things like hotels and girls with$ or just use atm over there and get Cambodian currency?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Frits[/QUOTE]
Don't change Euro to Dollars in Europe. If you get money (US$) via ATM-Card you get a much better exchange rate. Maybe depending on your Bank conditions. Don't even think about bringing cash Euro. You will lose about 10 cents per Euro due to horribly rates.
[QUOTE=Happy Harry]Fantastic report SJ. Thanks for the details.
I was wondering how do you go about asking for only viet brothels?
Do you simply say viet or is there a translation term.
Thanks,
Harry[/QUOTE]
In fact I did not specify to look for only Viets, but the place my driver took me to have only Viets.
I think most people there understand if you say Viet girls or Khmer girls.
Hello,
I was thinking that because of the weak position of the dollar in relationship to the euro getting dollars in the netherlands would be the cheapiest way. The cambodian banks have to pay these dollars i will get from their atm by paying them with their own currency. Or will it be cheap because in fact i am taking money from my own account and the Cambodian bank just works like a kind of agency.
Yours sincerely,
Frits
If some of you guys are coming to PP in early october and want to hook up, feel free to PM me.
Frits,
I'd advise you to buy $$ in Holland. Cash is king, and you'll need lots of small notes such as $1 and 5. You can easily break the big notes at hotels etc or even at most bars.
When I'm in Cambo (twice a year for about 15 yrs) I use several pockets, one for larger notes (50/100), one for mid range (5/10/20) and one for monopoly money (riel/$1). When you go out at nights take max $50 with you unless you plan a night of boozing & partying away from your hotel.
Usually what I do for money is go to a full service ANZ bank during business hours and use the ATM. Not sure why but there is no user charge to my account. The ATM will pay out in $20 and $50 dollar bills. Then I take my money to a window and ask to have it changed into mostly $10 dollar bills with some $5. Smaller bills seem to be less hassle in the markets and I don't need to always be breaking larger bills into smaller.
Another thing I do is get $10/$20 changed into 1000 R notes for use on the street and for moto rides. The ANZ on the Riverfront around the corner from ST 148 works well for me.
Will be returning to PP in about two weeks and wondering if Sophie Bar is the same ? I read that they closed, then they didn't operate at the bar the same as before. Anyone been there lately?
Very quiet here at the moment,mid september must be the slowest time of year for barang.
The word for vietnamese is yuon,it is derogatory but it is the word that the khmer use-srey youn=vietnamese woman or women.
Sophies is open but the word around town is that sophies,mikado and le cyrcee have had to introduce a BYOB policy.
There is a police crackdown because of NGO pressure and beds have had to be removed from premises,hence bring your own bed.
Hopefully our favourite couch will survive.
Pretty much you need 1s and 5s with of course a 20 if you fly in. Myself, I go with a thick pile of bills (but all 1's - maybe 300 of them, a few 5's and that all important 20) new if you can get them, otherwise with no tears or worn too much.
10 or 20 in real is enough - and the restaurant prices are not quoted in $ anyway, so you will be spending it
The reason you might have not been charged is because the machine dispensed $$ (you American by any chance? - most US banks that have free withdrawals from ATMs don't charge if the currency is dispensed in $$)
Beds at Mikado aren't on premises anyway - how could they make them stop? It's a hotel with a separate payment
Just seen the flamingos van disgorge a record nine customers fighting over a few rooms.A couple of chaps complained that they had booked but never received the return email,sorry that's not a booking then.
One pommy bloke was muttering that he would never stay here again...
Can't say that he'll be missed,occupancy here is 90% plus all year round now.
Don't just assume that you can turn up and get a room even at this time of year,things change.
This is another community service announcement on behalf of mr kim.
PS don't worry about having riel,riel is given as change for small amounts.The ATMs do NOT dispense riel.
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]Just seen the flamingos van disgorge a record nine customers fighting over a few rooms.A couple of chaps complained that they had booked but never received the return email,sorry that's not a booking then.
One pommy bloke was muttering that he would never stay here again...
Can't say that he'll be missed,occupancy here is 90% plus all year round now.
Don't just assume that you can turn up and get a room even at this time of year,things change.
This is another community service announcement on behalf of mr kim.
PS don't worry about having riel,riel is given as change for small amounts.The ATMs do NOT dispense riel.[/QUOTE]
Got instand reservation last Tuesday for Wednesday morning which I changed on Wednesday morning for the same evening with no problem.
Checked out today early morning.
As a newbie in town I had to try Sophies. No beds only matresses on the floor. Had to pay $10 to have the job done but I made it last for ever.
Didn't liked the girls at Shangai. They all looked like kids to me. Monkey kids to be precise. Not my cup of tea. It seems that I am spoiled too much from the latinas.
Thanks
El Greco
[QUOTE=El Greco]
As a newbie in town I had to try Sophies. No beds only matresses on the floor. Had to pay $10 to have the job done but I made it last for ever.[/QUOTE]
So I take it that Sophie's has reopened? $10 is the price if you get a room, or $5 if you let them just blow you at the bar.
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]So I take it that Sophie's has reopened? $10 is the price if you get a room, or $5 if you let them just blow you at the bar.[/QUOTE]Business as usual, less the bedframes.. same thing as LCC, Mikados wasn't affected.
To be accurate the usual going rate at the bar is $1/head (litteraly:-) but as 4 or 5 of them take turns, your rate is right on.
[QUOTE=Logos]Business as usual, less the bedframes.. same thing as LCC, Mikados wasn't affected.
To be accurate the usual going rate at the bar is $1/head (litteraly:-) but as 4 or 5 of them take turns, your rate is right on.[/QUOTE]
well, it's $1/head as a tip for samples.... but the whole deed is as Jamito said - $5 - or at least it was last tme I was there (admttedly a while ago).
More importantly, it's good news that Sophie's is open!
What is the deal on LCC now without beds?
- matresses like Sophies
- to your hotelroom
- to the hotel which you use for Mikado's ($?)
- Other
this is a copy of a report i posted on another board last december and that could be of interest to newbies and expats alike if you take the occasional motodop at night.
2 nights ago after a romp with the gf she fell asleep and i went out for a quick bite at martinis (why is it you're often famished after sex in the middle of the night). i hailed a motodop on str 63 to go north towards mao tse toung. it was late at night, about 1 am.
i was tired after a gruesome day and didn't notice it fast enough -more accurately i noticed something was awry but didn't react fast enough- when he swerved right then left and took street 95, that runs parallel to monivong.
that long street was pitch dark and totally deserted.
when he slowed down after another lone motodop came from the opposite direction i was fully awake. i jumped off and tried to walk away fast in the opposite direction but it was too late, we were too far out from the lights.
they followed me slowly and shouted something in khmer so i then turned around and walked back towards the guy handing out his fare - take your fucking 2000 riel - but by that time 2 other motos had arrived in my back with 3 guys on them.
shit, was that for real ? was i going to be beaten to a pulp, stabbed to death, gang-raped and left out bleeding ?
i could and probably would have taken 1 against 2 but against 5 the odds didn't seem too good. at least one of them was also carrying some kind of baton. so i just stood still and made no sudden moves while they were circling me then nervously going through my pockets. they deftly relieved me of the day's change, around $50-60. left me my keys. stole the brand new watch i'd bought in china last week, a magnificent omega with a real leather brown bracelet. bastards, i was down another 5 buck.
even showed khmer compassion when they handed me back the 2000 riel for a ride back to the appartment. i thought i heard the words in khmer "be careful on the way home" and muffled laughter. then they were gone.
the whole episode must have lasted 2-3 minutes, but it felt like slow motion.
no amount of pepper spray or weapon, short of a subcompact machine gun, would have changed anything, actually not carrying anything probably avoided a bad beating or more. i had never been mugged before in my life (except once in pre-giuliani nyc when it was a routine event so that doesn't count) so i consider myself lucky to have lost just a small amount of money. for once i didn't carry either cellphone nor camera, which would have amplified my loss tenfold.
will i avoid motodops in the future?
no, but i'll certainly be cautious and alert at all times and jump off much faster at the first hint of foul play.
does that make pp or cambo an unsafe place?
not more than your average 3rd world city. just keep your eyes open, play it as safe as possible, and direct your motodops rather than being led by them.
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During the last 3 years I spent about 15 months in PP. Twice I had problems with attempted muggings. One happened at 3 am when 2 ladyboys approached on a motorbike. Well why did I walk on one of the unpaved side roads near Sharky's at that time. Stupid just to save 2000 riel for the ride to Walkabout. Got out of the situation by making use of the "surprise effect" and knocking out one of them and hit the road immediately afterwards.
Second time was quite more surprisingly. Went to Walkabout at 10pm when one single guy came right towards me and hit me without any warning or hesitation just 20m off Rue Pasteur. Fortunately I stumbled but didn't fell. So I just shouted at him like being a stone-age man facing a mammoth. Maybe he felt intimidated by that but he turned around an ran like being chased by a pack of bull terriers. Never saw him again.
In any other areas (Siem Reap, Battambang, Snooky etc.) luckily nothing like that happened at all.
I've lived in PP off and on for the last year and half. Three times I've had incidences occur. The first time a friend and I were walking towards Sharky Bar from Indochine Restaurant and had 6 young males come up behind my friend and try to circle around him. I yelled for him to "watch his back" and we backed up against a wall. They left us alone when they saw we were ready to go at it. The second time I was getting on a moto, and there was a girl already setting on the moto. A street rat reached up to grab her gold chain and I got it first. He walked away like nothing happened. The last time I was ripped off at the beach. The child vendors will take you down in a heartbeat. They were all around us and I saw a local I knew and got up to speak to her. That fast they emptied the pockets of the shorts I had lying on the table. Now, I don't let them close to where I set and I put my stuff up in the spokes of the umbrella when I set on the beach. In PP I try to only use motodops from the neighborhood, I have there numbers in my phone or motos that hang out in front of where ever I need a ride from. Seldom will I use a moto that stops me on the street and asks if I need a ride. The motos in front of places seem to be more traceable if something happens.
At night I try not to travel alone. If I'm out and about I will have a driver I know and usually have him wait for me. Again I use some one that I know and is traceable. It helps if I treat him right, that way he will look out for me.
Last year seemed perfectly safe, but perhaps i was simply unconscious and lucky, always picking the first motodop available.
Its true , at night with almost no light in the streets, the environment seemed a little bit "strange", but i never felt in danger.
In Brazil i thought about safety everytime, but everything seemed calm in PP.
It will be important to receive more reports from mugging, because PP can become very fast a dangerous place to visit.
Is it safe,hell no.
Everywhere you go the girls are trying to take your pants off,who knows what may happen next.
Only last night we were in sophies and a man was being attacked by several girls,it was shocking the things they were doing to him-there should be a law against it.
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]Only last night we were in sophies and a man was being attacked by several girls,it was shocking the things they were doing to him-there should be a law against it.[/QUOTE]
What the girls do in Sophies is clearly sexual harassment.
I just want to have a beer at the bar and what happens?
Everytime the same...... :D
We should get them to court. :D
Cheers!
Agree, the motos like in front of the Himawari Hotel want repeat customers. They will take care of you. I have used the motodop named Tim who works out front of the Himawari extensively, especially at night. He takes me to all the places I want to go safely and waits for me outside. When I get outside a bar or MP he revs right up and makes sure another moto doesn't get me. He took me on all well lit streets etc.. at night. I have never had a problem because I used him. Another I used was outside of Island Massage on Sisowath Quay. Again, took me where I wanted to go, waited for me and used well lit streets. Get to know one , keep his cell, and call him when you need him.
It's a year ago since I was there now and I never encountered any problems. But when I went out to hit the bars I actually hired the guy with the tuk-tuk outside Flamingos to take me around for a few hours. It was raining a bit. Negotiated 10 USD. It's worth paying some extra $ for the added safety. And it was quite convenient when I left Sharkeys with my catch to have a transport waiting for me. No need to haggle with the motos outside. Especially if you are two hunting together a tuk-tuk may be a good choice. Also paid one of the motos 10 USD to take me around to all the tourist spots for a whole day at daytime. One evening I took a cyclo back from FCC to the hotel. Nothing happend, but I really felt exposed sitting there in this slow moving mode of transort.
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]So I take it that Sophie's has reopened? $10 is the price if you get a room, or $5 if you let them just blow you at the bar.[/QUOTE]
i had to pay $10 for the room. Tried to negotiate several times with no luck. Paid $2 for a rum & coke and gave another $2 to the attackers. Don't think I could have done it in the bar. Doesn't work for me like that.
El Greco
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]If there any of you guys that are in pp now and staying or visiting the flamingo hotel, could you ask them to email me, as i am unable to get a email to them. It comes back "unknow host".
I would like a room for the 21st November to depart on the 25th Nov, with wi-fi std room. if you are about pm me and i will give my email address!
[/QUOTE]
When I sent my email confirmation earlier this week, it sent an email authentication back that I had to reply to before my email was forwarded to them.
Spent 4 days there last week. Hired tuk-tuks from outside Flamingos or the nearby shopping mall with no problems.
Need caution in the nights. Use a known driver and don't worry for some extra bucks spent. Safety comes first.
No reason to spoil your vacations at the least.
Thanks
El Greco
[QUOTE=El Greco]i had to pay $10 for the room. Tried to negotiate several times with no luck. Paid $2 for a rum & coke and gave another $2 to the attackers. Don't think I could have done it in the bar. Doesn't work for me like that.[/QUOTE]
$10 for the room and girl, or a total of $15?
Hi all,
I will go begining next year first time to cambodia and pp. Are there websites about the girls and are there apartment girls like in HK?
Ty for help,
Michael
Hi,
Is it possible to buy a sim card in Pnom Penh. If not,is it possible to buy international phone cards to use in public phones.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Poturu]Hello a friend of mine travel a lot and he has just told me Cambodia and Vietnam are the best countries for mongering and fucking. I mean fucking with passion, I don't like mechanical sex of Pattaya. I don't know Cambodia or Vietnam, could you tell me if where it is easier to fuck regular girls? I need to know a country very easy to fuck regular girls and cheap.
I thank you[/QUOTE]I spent two months there this summer, with an entire month in Vietnam. Vietnam sucks for getting chicks. Very expensive, hard to find, massage parlors are a complete rip-off (unless you love uninspired hand jobs). I traveled all over Vietnam and was completely disenchanted with the girl scend when compared to Cambodia and Thailand. Now I do not enjoy spending hours talking and courting girls, so if you do maybe you would have better luck in Vietnam than I did.
Nonetheless the V girls when pretty are stellar compared to the Cambodian'ss and Thai's. Vietnam nature is gorgeous, so if you need a break check it out.
You can buy sim card from phone shop with ID it can be complicated, better yet buy one from a girl or moto driver (need to give tip). International phone cards available may be easyer to use an internet phone at an internet cafe. Some have high quality others not.
[QUOTE=Franckbon]Hi,
Is it possible to buy a sim card in Pnom Penh. If not,is it possible to buy international phone cards to use in public phones.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hi Franckbon,
buying a SIM card in Cambodia used to be very difficult but things have changed......
I read that there is a new 'tourist' SIM card that can be bought easily. I have never investigated as I have my own but I recall that it is only valid for one month (as would be sufficient for most tourists).
I did recently buy a SIM card in one of the small phone shops and it was as painless as would one would hope. 'Enter shop' | 'Select Number' | 'Pay' | 'Buy Top Up' and leave.
One of the strange things about SIM cards in Cambodia is that they expire after a period of non-usage. This presents problems to some infrequent visitors and should be looked at closely if you plan using a card repeatedly.
Another option would be to 'rent' a SIM card - try the hotels for this service. An advantage of this might be that you receive calls from girls from the moment you switch on your phone!!!!
I have not detailed the hotels or shops that can specifically help you as they are providing an illegal service and there is no guarantee of who is reading this but asking questions quietly of other mongerers when you arrive will provide the detail you require.
Hope this helps
Hawk
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]$10 for the room and girl, or a total of $15?[/QUOTE]
I was attacked by 3 girls as soon as I entered the place. The rest 3-4 of them were occupied to two other customers.
I ordered a Cuba libre and I choose the one giving the best blow. She told me several times that the price was now $10.
I did't buy it but it was 21:15 raining and I had to go before 22:00 to the Titanic restaurant on the beach front for dinner. Highly recommended for its location. Their kitchen closes at 22:00. So I gave up.
So my final cost was 10 for the girl 2 for the drink and another 2 to the other two attackers. Total $14. No big deal.
Check your PM's for more tips.
El Greco
Actually, I've never found it that hard... the trick seems to be to comply with the letter of the rules rather than the spirit of them.
The rules are something along the lines of SIMs can only be given to residents who can prove their address. It seems that technically you are resident the moment you check into a hotel. Just get the hotel management to print a letter saying 'XX has been living in this hotel since <date>' where date can be today.
Armed with letter and passport, head down to one of the phone company offices in PP (I couldn't get the little shops to sell me one). Smile politely, tell them you have proof of address etc and $10 or so later, you'll have a shiny new SIM.
I have heard about the tourist SIMs mentioned below, but, from what I heard, calls are ridiculously expensive on the tourist SIMs (and they ain't that cheap in Cambodia to start with). I am happy to be corrected if this last is not true.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi Franckbon,
buying a SIM card in Cambodia used to be very difficult but things have changed......
I read that there is a new 'tourist' SIM card that can be bought easily. I have never investigated as I have my own but I recall that it is only valid for one month (as would be sufficient for most tourists).
Hawk[/QUOTE]
Pre pay card are of no use, as in PP they do not have public phones. If you want to make a call, you have to go to these glass boxes with number on at side of path. Say to the guy you want to make a call, he will call the number on his mobile and then charge you accordingly.
as previously stated local sim you need id (I got my driver to get one and gave him a $1) but it is expensive, it cost me $25 with top up!
sofies has always been $10 for room and girl. BBJ at bar used to be $1. last time i went in June they wanted $3, I said no and gave them $2. lets face it you don't want to over pay do you!
Never been to Vietnam, but reading post i heard it is expensive.
From my experience in PP and snooky the Vet girls are more money orientated, but i do find them more appealing as they are generally on the slimmer build. Cheapest place to monger imho is cambodia, then phils, thailand. best gfe in order phils, thailand then cambodia.
but it all depends on who you meet and how you treat them!
Godd luck
will be in PP 21st nov if anyone about!
problem sorted, I was already booked in, but i never received thier email!
looks like one of our servers were down at some point!
BF
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]If there any of you guys that are in pp now and staying or visiting the flamingo hotel, could you ask them to email me, as i am unable to get a email to them. It comes back "unknow host".
I would like a room for the 21st November to depart on the 25th Nov, with wi-fi std room. if you are about pm me and i will give my email address!
thanks BF
[QUOTE=Franckbon]Hi,
Is it possible to buy a sim card in Pnom Penh. If not,is it possible to buy international phone cards to use in public phones.
[/QUOTE]
There are public payphones using prepaid IC chip phone cards, not as many as in other countries but usually you would find them around markets like Central market, Russian market and at the post offices. There are 2 provider of these phone booths :
- EasyCard having phone cards in 3, 5, 10, 20 USD
- UGR (?) with phone cards of 2, 5, 10, 20 & 50 USD (at post offices)
If your call is just for domestic, then look for the small booth with large font numbers of 011, 012, 016 with operator sitting. They will dial the number for you using their mobile phones for 300 Riels / minute from their cell phones.
For international call , try look for internet cafe which very often provide internatinal calls using voice over IP thus making the call much cheaper than through conventional phone. Instead of paying over 1-2 USD / minute from public phones, the rate would drop to something like 1,000 Riels / minute (0.25 USD) but depending on country you are calling to.
SIM card can be bought, just ask any local to get one for you. But if your stay is not long enough it may not justify the cost.
Once a locals moto driver near the hotel used to offer his spare SIM for me to use so I can become his regular customer; calling him to pick me up whenever I need a lift. Not a bad marketing tool, huh?
SJ
It was over 10 years ago since I first found myself in 63 St and even though I pass through Phnom Penh on business I haven't mongered along that path for years. But a few nights ago I found myself with a bit of time on my hands so I thought I'd go for a walk.
So after a big rain shower I set off.
It was dark and suspect in a way that only PP can be and fuelled by cialis I found myself happily sprinkling 5 and 10 dollars in buildings with the ambience of toilet blocks.
Visited a couple of places filled with Vietnamese girls and a couple with Khmer. One place wouldn't let me in saying " Khmer men only. "
So kept walking.
Anyhow found myself at one filled with Viet girls and saw one I liked, about 20 yrs old I'd guess. She had a straight cut Cleopatra fringe and longish hair.
So we climb up the stairs to the room and automatically she wants me to hang my pants by the door.
Now I fell for that trick years ago so I thought lets see what happens, because unlike then, now I can speak Vietnamese well enough and I hadn't let on.
I asked her name and she said 'Chim', which means pussy in Vietnamese but I didn't say anything, although admired her sense of humour.
In English I say, "Hello Chim".
She smiles a little cold wry smile and I put my pants under the pillow.
In the room one wall is a sliding frosted window panel with some small holes (eye holes) and I see a small eye appear and disappear as I'm looking straight at it. So I hang my T shirt over the hole.
Next thing the 2 girls start talking, yelling to each other in Vietnamese. Here's the conversation between the girls.
Girl outside.
He hide the holes.
Girl inside. He put pants under pillow.
Girl outside.
Give him massage.
Girl Inside.
He doesn't want.
Girl outside.
Sit on his face.
Me thinking. Now you're talking.
Girl inside. O. K
Girl attempts to sit on face but I reach under the pillow and move the pants to end of bed under my feet.
Lights go out.
Girl inside. He move pants to feet.
Lights go on.
Me. (in Vietnamese). Enough now. Do Mar moi sau! (phonetic like the Vietnamese, not literal)
Translation: MotherfK. G Liers.
Actually this can be pronounced 2 ways, one jokingly, one, threateningly, but I used the joking expression. A warning this expression said the wrong way would get you severely harmed in the wrong company.
Me: Now. He wait to catch you by door with big net. .
Huge silence.
Girl inside. Western man speak Vietnamese!
Girl outside: Western man speak Vietnamese?
Me: Western man speak Vietnamese when he about to be robbed.
Then: Long stream of too fast for me to understand conversation between the 2 girls.
Me: Come in I give you $ 1. 00.
More too fast, excited, very loud conversation between girls.
Me. He very nice man and you sound like a very beautiful girl.
Maybe I give you 2 dollars.
Girls now laughing.
Door opens a little.
Me: Come in I won't bite.
I was expecting a battle hardened Vietnamese pro but in comes the sweetest thing, who I hadn't seen at the showroom downstairs. Again about 20 years old.
So I offer an extra $5 for her but she says her boss says $10 for foreigner.
Me: But foreigner who speaks Vietnamese $ 5. 00.
So we haggle in Vietnamese, laughing now, and I agree to $6. 00
What followed after was an incredibly good session. Largely I think because the girl outside was so pumped with adrenaline at the whole almost being caught thing. To cut a long story short, they never admitted to what was obviously going on. So I talked about how other girls did it, the pocket robberies and they opened up a little about 'the other girls' activities.
Not all of them do it, just some. For some of the girls it's seen as a legitimate bonus as none of these girls are there by choice. They have to share any bonus with the touts if the touts find out.
Actually it was a fun experience but it shows 2 of the golden rules of mongering:
1, Never monger with anything you're afraid to lose, as you'll almost certainly lose it.
2, If you can, learn to speak the language.
On the way out they asked me my name.
I said. "Coo. "
It means cock.
Then "Coo yeu Chim".
Yeu means love.
They laughed a lot.
That's a nice story, PC. I've never been ripped off by a chica inside a room, but am always pretty careful with where my money is. When I'm smart (about 80% of the time), I only take $40-$50 with me.
I have never been down 63 str, but as a matter of interest, can you take girls back to your hotel?
I did two girls in sofies last year, only cause the friend i was with, went into a room. It was not a plesent experience, It was musty, dark and i would hate to think what the mattress would have looked like under close inspection? I could not bring myself to look!
I can only assume 63 street is the same or worse!
I do prefer the comfort and safety of my own hotel!
BF
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]I have never been down 63 str, but as a matter of interest, can you take girls back to your hotel?
I did two girls in sofies last year, only cause the friend i was with, went into a room. It was not a plesent experience, It was musty, dark and i would hate to think what the mattress would have looked like under close inspection? I could not bring myself to look!
I can only assume 63 street is the same or worse!
I do prefer the comfort and safety of my own hotel!
BF[/QUOTE]
From my past experiences (about a year ago so things might have changed by now), some but not all the places will allow some (again not all) the girls to be taken out. I guess their best money makers are not allow out unless its very late at night--just a guess. Of course ,It will cost more for take out.
Although I did ask about take out I never did so and I have to warn anyone not to do so because most of them were trying to steal from me while I was in their room, so can't even imagine what they will do if you took them back to your well stocked hotel room. Best free advice I can offer, don't do it.
PT
Phantomtiger, Yes you can take girls out in most places but not all. Boldfocker's comments are right. Everything is negotiable for the right price and there are some genunely nice girls to be found. The risk in your hotel room I think is probably much the same as any working girl you take back.
I saw one girl I wanted to take short time but she's already been booked long time.
For information, all places are open and business as usual at Mikados and La Cyrcee (didn't check out sophies).
Mikado $15 girl included
LCC $15/girl + $4 for the room.
I prefer the rooms at mikados but the girls from LCC are more fun and generally had better experiences there.
In most cases, I'd prefer taking a girl out, as opposed to doing the deed on a worn out bed, up a bunch of flights of stairs. Is the take off fee the normal price, or are you paying a surcharge?
I'd be most interested at Sophie's and La Cyrcee, since those are places I'm familiar with. I can't say I was that impressed with Martini, when I went last year.
Last time I asked, the takeout fee for sophies was $30. I was sorely tempted, because I had just had the most remarkable blow job from a real stunner, just started there.
G
[QUOTE=Gangles]Last time I asked, the takeout fee for sophies was $30. I was sorely tempted, because I had just had the most remarkable blow job from a real stunner, just started there.
[/QUOTE]
$30 was for TLN? Probably worth it. If for just an hour or two, probably not. Thanks for the "heads" up.
Takeout fees at cyrcee and mikado are $7,I doubt the $30 at sophie but may depend on the time of night.
Since the brothel town has closed are the girls moved anywhere else? Where do you find fresh meat in Cambodia? I hvae never been but I am thinking about it. I would like nice fresh girls and nice bodies.
I sort of thought the words "stunner" and "Sophies" were mutually exclusive
Is the above good? I read Svay Pak has reopened. What is Marini's like? Stickman said he hates it because the girls are as young as 12 is this correct?
[QUOTE=Parnellcat]Phantomtiger, Yes you can take girls out in most places but not all. Boldfocker's comments are right. Everything is negotiable for the right price and there are some genunely nice girls to be found. The risk in your hotel room I think is probably much the same as any working girl you take back.
I saw one girl I wanted to take short time but she's already been booked long time.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I already mentioned not all places will allow all their gals to be taken out, of course everything can be bought but I was just referring to the fact may not be able to do so at the usual rates, but if willing to pay 5-10x normal prices will get you any gal.
Just to clarify, there is a big difference in what the original question was asking, as I've taken gals from other well known bars back to hotel overnite and never had a problem. Difference is that the St 63 brothels (original question)and street hookers are taught to outright steal from you. I should know as they have tried this stunt often from me. Just read my past reports on this subject.
Regardless of who you take out, take care. But known and honest bars with their gals are usually safer as the bosses will not tolerate stealing from their workers. They don't want to earn a bad rep. So the risk factor is very different depending on where and who the gal is working for.--IMO
PT
I have not visited Cambodia for a couple years now and am contemplating a return visit. I always enjoyed the usual places, Martini's, etc. My driver also took me to a Cambodian club which was patronized by mostly wealthy older Cambodian men, but had some classy beautiful girls.
But I am getting conflicting reports about Svay Pak (K-11.) I went there once a few years back in the middle of the day. I looked around and left.
Is there still such a place? Are they doing business? What is the scene like? Does anyone know the true status of this intersting and rather bizarre place?
There is no K11 anymore,but plenty of chicken farms throughout the country.Also plenty of cheap brothels but most only an option if one can speak some khmer.
The city is eeerily quiet at the moment for the climax of the fifteen day pchum ben festival.Many establishments are closed and others lightly staffed as many khmer go home to the village.They go to the temple early this morning to leave food for the wandering souls of people who haven't been reincarnated.
The slaughter of people in the KR years means there must be many of these unfortunates.In vietnam it is worse because there are at least 100,000 missing from the war years,victims who were never given a burial.
The americans whinge about a handful of missing and never consider the huge number of vietnamese who suffered due to the invasion of their homeland.
I visited Phnom Penh this year in January. My friend and I decided to visit the place just to see what is there. To give an indicator, it took us three tries just to find a moto driver who even knew where k11 was located! As a location, the place is still physically there, but the brothels are CLOSED. The pool hall, the cafes and the Home Away From Home restaurant are all closed. So many memories I had of sipping Vietnamese coffee between shags. All history now.
YES, if you walk around you might be able to find some girls on offer, but the situation where you had 4-5 houses offering 10-20 girls each at US$5/pop are definitely gone. Any service you are going to get is going to be a hurried session in one of the houses off the main street and you will be humping on top of a straw mat. There is simply no advantage to making the long moto ride out to k11 for that level of experience, especially when there are so many nice options in the city.
That's the true status of this FORMERLY interesting and rather bizarre place.
I do hear that there are other close-to-k11 type places popping up, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of information sharing. This time the locals, who need some access to super cheap pussy to make it thru the day, are keeping things to themselves. They realise that loose-lipped foreigners looking for cheap pussy just attract NGOs, so I don't expect those places to welcome foreigners any more. Enjoy PNH, AsianRain+
[QUOTE=Ljohnson]I have not visited Cambodia for a couple years now and am contemplating a return visit. I always enjoyed the usual places, Martini's, etc. My driver also took me to a Cambodian club which was patronized by mostly wealthy older Cambodian men, but had some classy beautiful girls.
But I am getting conflicting reports about Svay Pak (K-11.) I went there once a few years back in the middle of the day. I looked around and left.
Is there still such a place? Are they doing business? What is the scene like? Does anyone know the true status of this intersting and rather bizarre place?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ljohnson]I have not visited Cambodia for a couple years now and am contemplating a return visit. I always enjoyed the usual places, Martini's, etc. My driver also took me to a Cambodian club which was patronized by mostly wealthy older Cambodian men, but had some classy beautiful girls.
But I am getting conflicting reports about Svay Pak (K-11.) I went there once a few years back in the middle of the day. I looked around and left.
Is there still such a place? Are they doing business? What is the scene like? Does anyone know the true status of this intersting and rather bizarre place?[/QUOTE]
I was in Phnom Penh in September and talking to someone who had visited Svay Pak just for 'old times sake'. I'm not sure he posts here so will pass on what he said.
He said that the Home Away From Home cafe was still there and he sat and enjoyed a beer. There is not the volume of girls that it was known for but, disturbingly, the pimps were still trying to sell the services of the children.
I, personally, have thought this to be a very unsafe place to visit for a few years now; there really does not seem to be anything to tempt me to risk being photographed by NGO types and then posted internationally as a Paedophile.
Hawk
I went to PNH last year for 6 days, and hit Sophies, Martini's, Paris Hotel and Cyree, and had moderate to good success at these places. This time, I'll be in town for 15 days, and want to experience more interesting places. I don't mind the cot on the floor, if the ladies are nice looking. I'm thinking about going to the beach, but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort, lady wise. If it's a carbon copy of Pattaya, I'd probably skip it.
I'll be arriving in about a week, so any "must not miss" places, would certainly be appreciated.
You do have to be *very* careful.
There was an Australian guy a few years back who was photographed walking through PP (I think, but it might have been Southern Vietnam) hand in hand with a young boy. One of the international mags picked it up and splayed it across the cover with a caption to the effect that paedophilia was running rife in Cambodia (true from what I have seen - read on) and the story was about how open and notorious it was, look at what their photographer saw just outside his hotel walking along the street.
Suffice to say, this guy's life suddenly turned into a particularly vile form of syphilitic shit. It turns out the poor bastard was just there sorting out the final batch of papers for his son (the kid in the picture) that he and his wife had adopted from Cambo a couple of years previously. This sort of stuff can easily be explained away to friends and family, but what about those who just happen to recognize you from the photo on the street.
In an unrelated incident a few years ago in the UK, a guy got his office torched and the living hell kicked out of him by a bunch knob-ends, he might have even been killed - his crime, he had a sign outside saying 'Paediatrist'! Surely the fact that he was advertising what he was should've given them a bit of a clue that maybe they'd misunderstood.
My point is, when it comes to this stuff, there is no benefit of the doubt, there is no fair trial, you are guilty until proven innocent, and, even then the stigma could remain. I actually feel a bit sorry for the guys to be honest, they are sick bastards in need of psychiatric help more than vilification. Part of the point of having a society of laws is to prevent this mob mentality of vengeance. While there are plenty of other criminals that are more deserving of hospital than prison, paedophiles are the only ones I can think of where we all seem to secretly approve of the fact that they'll have the everloving shit kicked out of them, or worse, while incarcerated. We don't want to help these guys with what I imagine must be a pretty fucking debilitating sickness (I am guessing of course, I don't know any), we simply want them to suffer. Furthermore, I would guess that some of these guys are as horrified by what they do as the rest of us are - they simply have a screw loose that causes them to be attracted to the wrong people, and, they probably know it. The guilt of a catholic wanking multiplied by a few million.
OK - please don't take all this as a pro-paedophilia rant. I am disgusted by the fate of the victims of these guys, I just think as a society we need to deal with everyone with compassion - both victims and criminals, irrespective of our personal disgust. Without compassion we'd descend into a society of vengeance - there's a reason we don't let victim's family members sit on the juries of the accused.
Anyway, I digress... I am reminded of a time when, upon reflection, I could have landed myself in very hot water had someone viewed it wrong. I was with my girlfriend at the time and we were quite drunk walking through PP somewhere. This little girl came up to me, trying to sell me something and she really was as cute as a button. I wanted to get her something rather than money that her 'handler' wouldn't be able to take from her, so, said come with me and walked her to a stand that sold icecreams about 20m away (leaving the girlfriend sitting at a table - not wise!). So, just me and this little girl, me buying her an icecream.... take a polaroid of me just then and it doesn't look good at all now does it?
A few seconds later, some moto guy came up to me and asked me if I liked her and how much would I pay? It was only then that how the situation I'd placed myself in looked became clear to me. I took his registration number and gave it to a friend who knows some NGO people, but, to this day, I really wish I'd clocked him.
What was that I was preaching about tolerance above? :) Still a man who claims not to be the least bit hypocritical is either a saint or a liar.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]
I, personally, have thought this to be a very unsafe place to visit for a few years now; there really does not seem to be anything to tempt me to risk being photographed by NGO types and then posted internationally as a Paedophile.
Hawk[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]I do hear that there are other close-to-k11 type places popping up, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of information sharing. This time the locals, who need some access to super cheap pussy to make it thru the day, are keeping things to themselves. They realise that loose-lipped foreigners looking for cheap pussy just attract NGOs, so I don't expect those places to welcome foreigners any more. Enjoy PNH, AsianRain+[/QUOTE]Well, there is always some truth in all rumors. It is true that K11 places do exist but must be found with a good local guide, but don't expect these places to be as big and noticeable as the old K11. Mostly 3-4 houses at most linked together. I've seen about 2 locations last time I visited. Both locations were on the opposite side of the river away from all the usual places we all visit. Wish I knew exactly where but only have some idea as a local motodop took me there last year. And yes, due to NGO's even those places may have moved by now.
PT
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I went to PNH last year for 6 days, and hit Sophies, Martini's, Paris Hotel and Cyree, and had moderate to good success at these places. This time, I'll be in town for 15 days, and want to experience more interesting places. I don't mind the cot on the floor, if the ladies are nice looking. I'm thinking about going to the beach, but I'm not sure if it's worth the effort, lady wise. If it's a carbon copy of Pattaya, I'd probably skip it.
I'll be arriving in about a week, so any "must not miss" places, would certainly be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hi Jaimito,
Sihanookville is not Pattaya. Very cheap, few tourists to compete with. Mostly brothels you would be visiting instead of bars like in Pattaya. Anyway with 15 days you can go to Siem Reap for a few days and also Sville. They are both no more than 6 hours on the bus from PP.
While in PP I would suggest you pay a driver with a car to take you around to all the places tourists don't go. Now that's an adventure.
[QUOTE=Gohan39]Sihanookville is not Pattaya. Very cheap, few tourists to compete with. Mostly brothels you would be visiting instead of bars like in Pattaya. Anyway with 15 days you can go to Siem Reap for a few days and also Sville. They are both no more than 6 hours on the bus from PP.
While in PP I would suggest you pay a driver with a car to take you around to all the places tourists don't go. Now that's an adventure.[/QUOTE]
Sounds good. Thanks for the heads up. I did a tour around PP last time, but not of the mongering type. I need a *big* tuk-tuk, if it's going to take me. :) I find that if I take too many side trips, that at the end of it, I'm just tired out, so would prefer to take one side trip, and see how I like the other city. Is there enough action in Siem Reap to make it worthwhile?
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Is there enough action in Siem Reap to make it worthwhile?[/QUOTE]Zanzybar is still a popular place for freelancers, despite the new owners. There is a club called "Blue Wave" - but I've never been inside. Reports in the Siem Reap Forum are not that enthusiastic about it. Same about Sok San. Martini was pretty quiet when I last visited.
So enjoy but watch carefully!
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero] Is there enough action in Siem Reap to make it worthwhile?[/QUOTE]
I've contributed some info on SR along with another buddy monger (pirate1--who is no longer on this forum due to all the harsh treatment he received).
The bottom line is this about SR. You should really be going there to visit the Angkor temple sites and along the way as a side adventure only--seeking gals. 1) gals and mongering activity is not as many as in PP 2) everything including prices for mongering more expensive. Hope this helps.
PT
Hi all,
This is my first chat.
I will be in Phnom Penh on Monday 22nd, staying at the Walkabout. Would love to catch up with anybody next week, then going down to the beach the following week.
Made it in the other day, and have been mostly recovering from the long flight so far. PNH is not appealing at the moment, so will probably head to the beach in the next couple of days.
I'm heading off to Le Cyrcee in a few minutes.
A few places in PP to consider:
Sakura hotel MP, Navy Club MP and New World MP?
When I stayed at Flamingos I went to a MP that was close to Walkabout, 2nd floor around the corner. Walkabout has a few rare hotties.
There are numerous MPs that cater to the mid level Chinese in PP. I went to one just off Morivan (Sp suxs) @ "fuck can't remember the cross Street number, it was a major intersection, think it was road to Russian market or Mao Road.
Early evening I cruised up and down the river front road up to the Japanese Bridge. Saw a few very sharp cuties heading to the casino boat. I also saw MPs to $1.25 US in the industrial port area.
Snooky still has good reputation
Koi Kong got some bad reports a week ago. Chicken farm, 1st house on the R has a new owner who's got the girls ripping off customers.
Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning
[QUOTE=Shamas]
Koi Kong got some bad reports a week ago. Chicken farm, 1st house on the R has a new owner who's got the girls ripping off customers.
Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning[/QUOTE]
Hey Shamas, long time since we last communicated.
KK 1st house- my old reports already warned everyone about this house as they were ripping off everyone regardless of old or new owners. Some folks told me pimps working at some PP brothels that steal from us are now relocating to other areas of Cambo--including KK. So stay safe.
PT
I think the information in my post already appears in this forum, but I write shortly anyway.
I went to Svay Pak in the afternoon a couple of weeks ago. No signs of brothels on the outside, but I was immediately invited into one of the houses on a sidestreet. After some negotiations I overpaid for a nice vietnamese girl. Definitely legal age. However, I can't really see the reason for going all the way to Svay Pak. Since they bring you a few girls into a normal house choice is not very varied. When you have gone all the way there you also think you should "get to it" even though price is high. So all in all I don't think I will go back. Whether it is dangerous, I don't know. I don't think an NGO could take the picture of a Westerner and publish it on the internet only because he has visited SVay Pak. But I could be wrong about this.
By the way. Does anyone know good places on 63rd st. Or Toul Kork. By good places I mean having stunning 19-20 y. O. Vietnamese girls. I have visited 63rd st. And Toul Kork in the daytime without finding any places of interest. F. Ex I didn't see anything obvious around TK market or 70th st.
Less than a month now till I get to PP. Can hardly wait now. How is the wireless internet in Flamingo these days? Is it working and would it support a voice conversation on Skype? I have not decided yet if I should bring my laptop or not.
I hope to make some nice (and some dirty) pictures when in PP for later view and show.
Not sure if it is smart to upload them directly in to own laptop after reading the forum.
Internet at flamingo generally OK nowadays and does support skype on wireless in the rooms.
Just posted on cambodia forum re GGC,do some of you guys belong to both?
Which is the best resource?
Hi folks,
I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me.
I have been in Thailand more times than I can count and been in Phom Penh once for a week last July. I know Sharky's and Martini's plus a few other places but wondered if someone could update me where the action now is.
I have a bit mixed feelings about Martini's-cool at times, but on other days the Mama-San is trying to set you up with some butt-ugly Chick and one seem unable to get rid of them.
I'll be back in PNH mid of November. Does anyone know what's recently going on? And whether the Bougainvilliers Hotel is girl-friedly? Stayed the last time at the River-Star hotel (NOT to be confused with the Riverside Hotel). OK, but a bit too much low-end. I found Shanghai Bar to be mainly a scam. Girls pushy and expensive, is it worth to give 63rd and 104th Street a try?
Some "local" tip, maybe?
I was assured by Giotto of the Thailand thread that the Bougainviller Hotel is girl friendly. However, they do ask to see the ladies documents. I'm booked in one of the suites in early Janurary...based on Giotto's comments.
[QUOTE=Xdentx]I was assured by Giotto of the Thailand thread that the Bougainviller Hotel is girl friendly. However, they do ask to see the ladies documents. I'm booked in one of the suites in early Janurary...based on Giotto's comments.[/QUOTE]Thanks. If they check the girls ID that's actually a benefit. I Choose the Bougainvillier because Sisowath Quay is close to the action and the suites have a stunning view overlooking the Mekong River. Plus, for additional 5$ you have reliable Broadband internet which I need and a room safe.
I can let you know how it's been when I'm back.
So, kenny you are bringing your love to town. I don't frequent the cheapies but there are plenty around and you will probably be robbed.
Just down street 51 and around the corner from the ELT english school I counted five places on one side of the road on one block. Around there are heaps of cheapies either with coloured lights, a 5000 riel sign or a karaoke sign.
Khmer language may be required but sign language will probably suffice and you will probably get robbed.
There is a new bar on 136, called guess what-136 bar. Many lovely girls and a good vibe. They are looking at stocking up with 55 girls on hand-is that enough?
Bar 104 is still good as is DV8, zapata, golden vine and of course the old favourite LCC(le cyrcee). Mikado is patchy at best and the shanghai is the same.
Walkabout, sharkey and martinis still the home of the skanks, but occasionally there is something nice.
Had a lovely, cheap meal at bojangles last night. A khmer owned bar / restauarant on the riverside just north of the 148 corner. The riverside bistro on the southern corner is a bit expensive but they have some of the loveliest waitresses in PP in those sexy uniforms-well worth a perve.
Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, but does anyone have any information on Chip Lay Massage? I'll be staying the Walkabout Hotel later this month, and I believe that Chip Lay is within a block of the hotel.
BLOCK?? How about right around the corner? If you go out the corner entrance on Street 51, turn right and go to the next building (right next door) THAT'S CHIP LAY. They have rooms, too
Sorry this is so late, but due to lack of internet access and other issues I have been unable to do this until now. It's a lengthy and detailed review of my experiences in PP and SR (which will be posted in that forum). Apologies if some details and names are no longer clear.
3/9/07 - Arrived in PP at 7:30pm. Raining. Had booked at Asia Hotel and presumed my original booking at Flamingos had been cancelled. In a mix-up, only the Flamingos driver had showed by mistake, so I went with him. Saw the room and agreed to stay. Arranged my room for 2nd stay later in the week too.
Decided to hit Sharkys first and got a tuk tuk. Not too busy as it was a Mon night. Spoke to a couple of girls, but wanted to check the field. Did notice a modestly dressed, quiet girl in a corner on her own. Eventually she came up to me. Spoke a little english and I started trying out some Khmer so we had a few laughs. Turns out she was 32 (my age) with kids but single. Eventually got her a drink after deciding to leave with her. I think she went to the ladies as I started talking to a couple of Irish lads sitting next to me. She returned and then seemed to be getting bored as I talked to these guys. I started to worry she would just walk away. Just then she started massaging me all over, much to the guys' amusement. Eventually I got talking to her again. I don't think we went into the specifics, but I just asked how much to go to my hotel. With translation the responded was 'whatever you wish to give me'. Which I hate!! I offered 20 and she bit my hand off. I said it was for a couple of hours but she persuaded me for an all nighter as she didn't want to travel alone at night. I don't like this as I canm't sleep without worrying about my stuff.
Back at the hotel she blankly refused to shave her hairy pussy. I found this to be a general problem. She loved DATY and also the pics. Her oral was very intensive and no probs with BBBJ. Her ball sucking was pretty good, but I didn't go for the rimming. Sex was fine but no anal. I couldn't cum for the life of me and she was genuinely upset about this. Can't remember if I made her cum again before we fell asleep. Terrible night sleep so I got her up early. I went down on her again before we repeated what we did night before but still no cum for me. She was upset again but took her money and left. At one point I thought she was gonna let me try anal but I think I misunderstood. She also snogged from what I remember. A decent start, I felt.
4/9/07 - Spent the day sightseeing around PP. In the late afternoon, decided to check out Walkabout. It was pretty quiet and I was soon accosted by this short, very young-looking Khmer with this older, bigger woman. She later told me she was half Viet/half Khmer. We played pool (which I soon found out is a 'courting ritual' over there. Ended up agreeing to take the younger one for 15. At this point I agreed she could call me on my newly acquired SIM card on the Sat, mainly cos I wanted to do her friend then. I soon found out she was a single mother too and was fromk Siem Reap. Made out she was v. new to PP but didn't believe it. I started then to appreciate the almost obsessive craze these girls have on cleanliness. Not a bad thing. The cool thing about her was she was lactating. DATY was ok as was BBBJ I think. However, it turned out she didn't have any rubbers (the girl night before did have them). After an argument it was decided she would go with just $10.
After dinner decided to check out Martinis. It was pretty packed and I got swamped at the bar by 3 or 4 Khmer girls. They were all over me and I think there started the general fascination between girls and my man boobs and my hairy arms!! There was one who wasn't a great looker but the way she moved just made me think she'd be great. I wasn't about to fold just yet though. Wandered around but decided to seek shelter mostly in the coolness of the raging disco. Didn't really get approached by too many girls after that. Saw a frew older dsinterested types sitting outside. At one point, this tallish, thin, young girl bumped into me and shook my hand. I think she asked my name and how old I was. I'm sure she said she was 23 too, but I thought she was strange and discarded the incident. However, later, she approached me as I was sat outside. We got talking and eventually agreed to it all for 20. I think she may have agreed to shave too.
Got a cab back to the hotel. She had darker skin and I amazing cup-shaped, natural tits. I now realise it is the girl reported by Boldfocker on -
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=623203&postcount=484[/url]
Anyway, we showered as is standard after she let me shave her. However, she seemed to bleed loads at one point and I was really worried I'd cut her. As it turned out, she was on her period. Whilst she was very enthusiastic, I couldn't concentrate properly as it all got pretty messy. I didn't cum again. No anal, needless to say. She left at the agreed time and I got some sleep.
5/9/07 - Flight to Siem REap early in the morning.
7/9/07 - Returned from Siem Reap in the early evening. Due to a problem with Flamingos transfer vehicle, I ended up getting a cab and the whole process delayed me too much. The hotel had screwed up my room as they didn't have any spare standard singles except on the half landing. This wasn't suitable cos of my disability (no lift access) so they agreed to put me in a deluxe that night at standard rate. Next night I would have to move to a standard. I agreed.
Hit Sharkys and it was buzzing!! I soon had this titchy, slim Viet woman sitting next to me. She looked a bit older and turned out she was 35!! Oldest I'd seen yet. Got talking as she spoke great English. She had kids too. Agreed to everything for $15 and we were soon off. If I remember correctly, her body was pretty good and BBBJ was excellent with ball-sucking. More importantly, she was already shaven!! DATY was fine too. Sex but no anal. Did not cum again, much to her dismay. Think she kissed too, but can't be sure.
Decided the night was still young and went to Walkabout. Buzzing there too at 1am. Stayed for an hour and noticed this incredibly short, slim Khmer girl. Think one of the girls told me she had a girl and I forgot about her. Ended up noticing this girl that looked familiar. Eventually she came up to me and I realised it was the bleeding girl from Martinis. We had a chat about it and a laugh. She said she had been off work cos of it until that day. She was all over me like a rash and I knew she wanted to repeat. I decided I wouldn't unless I got her for peanuts. When it came to the crunch I said I only had $10 until the next day as I was out of money (a total lie!). She said she couldn't do it. Only problem was that I couldn't keep on trying to get other girls there so I left.
Got an unfamiliar tuk tuk and decided boldly to seek out more women. This guy then took me all the way to the monument to a shack area. It was the only time I felt remotely unsafe during my trip. There various young Khmer girls were paraded. The only girl I liked turned out to be the mamasan!! She was relatively young though. Anyway, we then found the only genuine SWs I saw the whole time I was there along the street by the monument. None of them were up for it although there were some young cuties. Went back to the shacks and saw a girl who they said was mamasan's sister (there were similarities). She did look ridiculously young but they assured me she was 19. I don't think we discussed what I wanted but agreed a price. It was either 20 or 25. Like in SR, I paid some to them mamasan and the rest to the girl.
Back at the room, we showered and she had such an underdeveloped body it worried me. She started calling out on my phone, which annoyed me a little. She wouldn't allow shaving either. DATY was ok but we had some probs with BBBJ. After getting her to play ball, I think we ended up doing it covered and then sex. Her technique confirmed that she must be quite experienced and, hopefully, older than she looked. No anal again and no cum for me. She couldn't care less and left.
8/9/07 - Next day got up bit late and did Toul Sleng/Killing Fields/firing range circuit. Got back to PP and it decided to downpour for about 30 mins. Went straight to Walkabout and it was moderately busy. Soon clapped eyes on this incredibly featured Khmer girl who was big. Her tits were huge and her face had this indescribable allure. Her butt wasn't bad either, but probably not most guys' type. Anyway, strangely she would not discuss details there and said she would be at my hotel in 10 mins. I went and waited for her and she arrived. We negotiated on the way to my room. She eventually agreed to everything except anal for 20. We showered and it turns out she'd just had a baby and was seriously lactating. I was in milk heaven!!! DATY was ok. No DFK I think. Didn't do BBBJ and had similar probs getting her to fulfill the service. Eventually achieved it after much coaxing. Didn't cum with her either. Very average except for the lactating.
Later that evening I went back to Walkabout to watch the All Blacks rugby game. Met up with a Kiwi and American 'teachers' who were based in PP for a few months. Had a few beers with them. The Kiwi duly left with his regular girl. The American said he had to meet his 26 yo girl after her work. A few more beers later we were chatting away and he said he was cheating on her with a 19yo bar girl. He then decided he had to see her and I agreed to join him. He warned me it was a hostess bar and that they girls would be all over me. He highlighted one that apparently had an amazing rack. We were greeted like kings at the small bar a short ride away (can't remember name). I had 4 girls around me. One who seemed affectionate but could tell she wasn't interested. She was the translator. Another was a short, thin but oldish looking cheeky one. She was my favorite and it turned out she was 31 and a senior girl there. Another was the 'rack & booty' girl and the 4th was of no importance. Needless to say the American was lost in his own world with his 19yo. I had wanted to get a girl in before the England game at midnight but time was running out. The dancing started and soon I had rack girl's bosom rubbing against my face and head. The cheeky one kept pinching my man boobs and I kept pinching her back. Suddenly she said she was leaving and gave me a full on snog before she left!!! In the meantime I had bought all 3 girls drinks on basis that it was $3 for the lot. It turned out they were $3 each. Didn't break the bank though. I ended up leaving empty handed and got back to the hotel in time to change for the game.
I had hoped to go to Walkabout but didn't have time so decided to check out Shanghai's just across the road. It was busy with their famed 60 girls. Chatted to the Aussie manager for most of the game. At the end of the game one of the girls sat with me with her own beer (not paid by me!). We started talking and soon were kissing and cuddling. Despite negotiations she would not budge from $25 for her and $5 for the bar to go to my room. I left empty handed and went to Sharkys. It was 10 to 2 and didn't realise it closed at 2. Anyway, there were quite a few older Viet women trying to peddle younger ones to guys. I declined. However, I was soon approached by a younger/older couple of girls. The older one did all the talking and I should've got suss when she agreed to everything without even talking to the younger one. I had decided to treat myself to a double and the American's advice had been to 'go Viet' if doing a double. As it was closing time, the deal was done swiftly. The main point being they would go down on each other.
Back at the room the usual ensued. Refusal to shave down there. DATY by me on them went ok. Then they started faking going down on each other. Eventually they wouldn't do oral together on me. Then ensued a drawn out process involving mediation by one of the guys from the hotel. Eventually, they agreed to give me oral and sex for the $15 each that had been agreed and I kicked them out.
As it was my last night, I decided I wasn't going to sleep at all as that might help jet lag. I decided to go back to Walkabout at about 4am. Remembering the American saying that there were dodgy types there in the early hours, I wasn't expecting much. I couldn't believe it when I got there to find it was probably busier than it had been at 7 pm!!! I sat downstairs and decided to wait for something to happen. Sure enough, that really short girl from the night before showed up. Soon after she came and sat next to me. Then ensued a wonderful conversation as she spoke pretty good English. Said she was a mother of 29. Anyway, my biggest regret was dallying for the next hour before suggesting we go back. We agreed everything before hand I think. We didn't set a price though. The size of this girl was turning me on right from the start! We didn't get to my room till about 5:30 and it was already light again.
Her reasonably shaven pussy was shaven off again. She loved DATY and talked dirty all the way through it. Don't think she came though. She was seriously into DFK and photos. Her oral was excellent too. As I started fucking her in all different positions she said she wanted me to fuck her ass too!! That sent me over the edge and she practically begged me to cum on her face!! Couldn't believe it as I got a great cum shot. Don't think she was a swallower though. We cleaned up and I gave her $30 for her troubles. She agreed to accompany to the airport (I delayed my transfer by 30 mins half way through the session!!). I also gave her my SIM card (which I barely used - waste of $23 in total). She later told me she loved anal and did it regularly. We agreed it would be left for 'next time'. In closing, I can't believe I was so rushed with the most amazing woman I saw the whole time!! I could easily have spent every night with her and got action in the morning too (after having had at least one ST girl every night too, of course!). Never mind, but it was an amazing trip and I recommend it to anyone.
[QUOTE=Roguesta]Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere, but does anyone have any information on Chip Lay Massage? I'll be staying the Walkabout Hotel later this month, and I believe that Chip Lay is within a block of the hotel.[/QUOTE]
Roguesta, as was pointed out it is right around the corner. You walk in and go up a stairway to the elevator. It kind of looks like you are entering a mausoleum. Take the elevator to I think it is the 5th floor and it will dump you out in a room with the fish bowl on your left and a counter straight ahead.
Pick a number from the bowl and you might get a good massage as well as anything else you put on the menu. When I was there in Feb/Mar last year I found a fantastic lady whose name and number have disappeared with the hangover I later had. She did not cause it.
She shows up in a little white uniform and starts the massage. As the relationship develops the white clothes disappear, the relationship deepens, pun intended, and after tipping her $!0 or $15 bucks, either of which was appreciated, you proceed back to the counter in the main room and pay the lady something in the neighborhood of $5, depending on the length of the massage.
Although I couldn't convince either one that yum yum was a good way to complete a massage the full service was great.
After eliciting a back arching orgasm in the second masseuse I was rewarded with a softly spoken "thank you" as she kicked back on the pillow. I believe most of the clients are Chinese or Khmer and I suspect her orgasm is not on their mind most of the time.
A few days later I was coming down the steps of my hotel and a lovely creature all decked out in a sailor suit type of outfit that looked spectacular stopped and said she was going to SR for four days with a German but she would be back and would I be sure to come and visit her. At first I couldn't figure out where and when I was so stoned or drunk that I met this lovely creature and couldn't remember her. The next day I recalled it was the "thank you" girl.
I'll be be back in February and will be looking for her.
AF
I have a hand held and down loaded skype mobile2.2 onto it.
It works fine and is a dam sight lighter than a laptop!
If I take any photos I email them to a dummy email account and pick them up when back home. I'm not going to risk the PP Hilton!
BF
[QUOTE=First Lover]Less than a month now till I get to PP. Can hardly wait now. How is the wireless internet in Flamingo these days? Is it working and would it support a voice conversation on Skype? I have not decided yet if I should bring my laptop or not.
I hope to make some nice (and some dirty) pictures when in PP for later view and show.
Not sure if it is smart to upload them directly in to own laptop after reading the forum.[/QUOTE]
Someone may send information about Casa Hotel in Phnom Penh?
It is friendly?
In the nightclub, there are girls freelancers? The price for freelancers in disco and Karaoke?
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]I have a hand held and down loaded skype mobile2.2 onto it.
It works fine and is a dam sight lighter than a laptop!
If I take any photos I email them to a dummy email account and pick them up when back home. I'm not going to risk the PP Hilton!
BF[/QUOTE]Well, you would in any case have to observe great care not only to delete temporary copies of these pics and the originals, you also have to wipe them.
Option 1: Encrypt your Mobile's staorage card (needs extra software) so that anything on this card is automatically encrypted.
Option 2: Use a laptop, download the pics, compress the pictures in encrypted *.exe or *.zip files, then wipe the Original pictures and wipe (not format) the camera's storage card.
Either way, if you want certain data not to be found on your gadgets it'll take a bit more than just uploading them - the upload process could be easily compromised, unless you use a VPN.
Vista with BitLocker is Okay, but although no one can view the pictures the presence of such files is obvious, and all it needs is your password.
[QUOTE=That Asshole]RE: That disguisting feminist article, "killer condoms crap", etc.
Please ask yourself: Why did you come here? For the food? For sightseeing? For the nice people? My friend, please don't be a hypocrite.
Some travels: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=622003&postcount=200[/url][/QUOTE]Well, I agree with you - mostly. But I guess we all have our own approach when it comes to "why do we travel and where".
I've visited the Killing fields and Tol Slueng. Not at all a waste of time. But hell, deep inside me is some Redneck asshole who needs some quality time from time time. Yes, I DO want to stare at a woman's boobies if I want (and when was the last time you could've done that in North America? ). Grab her ass, you got that right, LOL. I also want to go to a bar, have my beer AND my goddamn cigarette without getting my ass booted after 30 seconds.
I do enjoy getting my business suits and shoes made to order for a fraction of the price I'd pay at home. And last but not least, I enjoy banging three chicks a day or at a time if I"m in the mood.
I do treat people with the same respect they show me, and making the world's oldest business a crime is indeed hypocrisis, I couldn't agree more.
Yes, indeed, one could blame us for "taking advantage" of the poverty in countries such as Cambodia. However, those who do must have two things in mind: First that we bring our money to these countries for a purpose. Second, we don't take more advantage of a willing girl than the average wesern company takes of its employees. Better to blame these NGO-guys who make a gorgeous way of living just by blabbering barely understood phrases all day.
For me, mongering is only one of many reasons why I go to Cambodia. I'm going again next week.
[QUOTE=Bold Focker]I have a hand held and down loaded skype mobile2.2 onto it.
It works fine and is a dam sight lighter than a laptop!
If I take any photos I email them to a dummy email account and pick them up when back home. I'm not going to risk the PP Hilton!
BF[/QUOTE]Just taking the photos may be a risk.
What if the model reports you?
[QUOTE=Kenny Rogers]
I've visited the Killing fields and Tol Slueng. Not at all a waste of time. But hell, deep inside me is some Redneck asshole who needs some quality time from time time. Yes, I DO want to stare at a woman's boobies if I want (and when was the last time you could've done that in North America? ). Grab her ass, you got that right, LOL. I also want to go to a bar, have my beer AND my goddamn cigarette without getting my ass booted after 30 seconds.
Yes, indeed, one could blame us for "taking advantage" of the poverty in countries such as Cambodia. However, those who do must have two things in mind: First that we bring our money to these countries for a purpose. Second, we don't take more advantage of a willing girl than the average wesern company takes of its employees. Better to blame these NGO-guys who make a gorgeous way of living just by blabbering barely understood phrases all day.[/QUOTE]In Canada I can stare at internet boobs all day long for free, whereas in Thailand this is illegal & many sites are blocked by the police. Not sure where Cambodia stands on this, but since my PC is not mobile it is a non issue.
In Vancouver if I want some tail to handle rather than just see it is easily available in abundance for 3-10 times what I'd pay for the Thai meat. Some bars there also have smoking rooms. That is, for cigarettes not BJs.
Re poon in poor countries, I like to think that I am supporting some of these ladies families and they are taking advantage of me for the same. LOL
[QUOTE=Roguesta]For me, mongering is only one of many reasons why I go to Cambodia. I'm going again next week.[/QUOTE]I hear you can find Mary Jane there.
[QUOTE=Kenny Rogers]
<snip>
Yes, indeed, one could blame us for "taking advantage" of the poverty in countries such as Cambodia. However, those who do must have two things in mind: First that we bring our money to these countries for a purpose. Second, we don't take more advantage of a willing girl than the average wesern company takes of its employees. Better to blame these NGO-guys who make a gorgeous way of living just by blabbering barely understood phrases all day.[/QUOTE]
You make some interesting points, both in the section I've snipped and the section I've quoted - I largely agree with you on most of it (although questions of morality are almost by definition uncertain things).
I would caution you on your last paragraph though... one of the scariest things I see people do is justify their own behavior on the basis that another accepted or common practice is just as bad or worse - or, simply because someone else is behaving worse than you. You justify your actions twice in the last paragraph by comparing yourself to others (western companies & NGO guys). Once you get onto that sort of logic, it is pretty easy for the next guy to come along and say 'well I'm not much worse than him', then another and another and, standards of behavior keep slipping because morality is no longer something that is thought of as intrinsic, but rather something that is thought of as nothing more than relative to others (both of which are partly true anyway).
Bah... not explaining myself well... anyway, wasn't an attack in any sense, just cautioning you that in my opinion justifying ones ideals and morality on the morality or actions of others is a pretty fucking slippery slope.
[QUOTE=Blunderer] Once you get onto that sort of logic, it is pretty easy for the next guy to come along and say 'well I'm not much worse than him', then another and another and, standards of behavior keep slipping because morality is no longer something that is thought of as intrinsic, but rather something that is thought of as nothing more than relative to others (both of which are partly true anyway).
Bah... not explaining myself well... anyway, wasn't an attack in any sense, just cautioning you that in my opinion justifying ones ideals and morality on the morality or actions of others is a pretty fucking slippery slope.[/QUOTE]Again, I agree. But I don't say "well, I do it because the other guys do it, too, it can't be TOO bad". I just say that moral standards may differ in different countries and societies. I have noticed that the sexual abuse of minors is obviously not welcomed in this forum, something I absolutely appreciate. However, what consensual adults do is something different.
My point is simply that although being employed in a "Management position" I'm forced literally every day to do things I don't believe to be right. Insofar I find it truly hypocritical to apply different standards to "moral issues".
BTW, there seems to be scientific consensus that women are suppressed most in societies where sexual conformity is an issue (such as Muslim states).
I guess what I want to say is: It basically comes down to price. A 20$ job in Phnom Penh is of drastical better value than a 150 $ "Short time" with a North Americal needle *****. I guess the girls there also spend the money in a more useful way, at least generally speaking (never asked, LOL. I too don't want to get too much involved and hear those sad stories, whether true or made up).
I'm not sure whether you've catched up that story about the prostitutes forced out of business in Chiang Mai by well-meaning NGO's who then started a big protest. Although this is certainly not a good example it at least indicates that Prostitution basically IS a business, and that there seems to be no reason why you should not treat a prostitute with respect, provided her services are worth the money paid.
Overreading my answer I'm also not satisfied with what I expressed. I'm not trying to come up with pseudo-moral excuses, I don't think we need one.
However, one more point: The Germans don't get much on track, but their decision simply to legalize Prostitution was truly some hands-on approach. Taking away the illegality of this has also taken away many related problems.
Last but not least... have fun ;-)
[QUOTE=Carlos Spain]Someone may send information about Casa Hotel in Phnom Penh?
It is friendly?
In the nightclub, there are girls freelancers? The price for freelancers in disco and Karaoke?[/QUOTE]Hi Carlos,
Looks like you may be the 1st here to stay at the Casa club.
I would imagine it's girl friendly since the fishbowl exists inside the place.
I visited the fishbowl lat February and left after 15 minutes.
I was there at night about 8pm and it was early. Probably too early.
Was looking at over 60 viet ladies that totally ignored this barang.
Some of the girls were pretty enough to take out but I have the impression that the Asian businessman big spenders are what they're used to going with.
I've read it may be $60 for one of them. The hotel is also a wifi hotspot (you still have to pay for the access) but with the nightclub at street level it could be too noisey for sleep.
pearl - "Happy Herb Pizza" by the river, street 176? and Sisowath.
How do you like your "oregano" - "happy" or "extra happy"? (Sihanoukville is a "home grown" operation - better quality - though) Sniff and ye shall find.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]pearl - "Happy Herb Pizza" by the river, street 176? and Sisowath.
How do you like your "oregano" - "happy" or "extra happy"? (Sihanoukville is a "home grown" operation - better quality - though) Sniff and ye shall find.[/QUOTE]
If you plan to walk within the next four hours I would recommend against the Extra Happy at either of the pizza places.
not if one is "extra large" (no, not there, just the rest of me...) You think WALKING is a p-p-p-problem - just try operating a MOTO. "Extra happy" only did a slight buzz - good stuff.
Wow - look at all the pretty colors...
Thanks for your answer!
Looking for the ultimate large nippled babe in Phnom Penh.
Yougn or old.
Got any clues
Just came from Siem Reap and checked into the Walkabout... what? what do you mean there's no wireless internet? I see. The room rate is only $15 and so to expect a little less. But in Siem Reap the room rate was $20 and there was wireless internet and the bathroom didn't stink.
For those who have heard of the Walkabout from this forum, let me forewarn you that the Walkabout is very basic. Too bad the Flamingos was fully booked! But I must say that the Walkabout is very conventientally located, shouting distance to the Shanghai bar and the Heart of Darkness disco, however nothing can make up for the stinch in my room... I digress.
First night I visited the Shanghai bar, which appeared to be similar to the Walkabout bar, so I didn't go in. I walked over to the Heart of Darkness and it's a smallish disco with a pool table. Ok, there seems to be some nice looking figures inside, but when comes to discos, size matters, so I asked a Walkabout frontdesk and was recommended Spark.
A $2 motor ride got me to Spark and it's comparable to zone1 in Siem Reap, but twice as big. The place was full of Khmer guys and gals and yet again I ran into the same problem as with zone1 - what is the protocol to discover and pick up working chicks? I didn't see no mamasan at the door.
No luck at Spark and returned to Heart of Darkness. Saw this cute chick and as soon as I told her I stayed at the Walkabout, she frowned and said she would meet me there later. So I went to the Walkabout bar and started drinking. After a few beers the cute chick appeared but declined any engagement for the night and gave me her number instead. After a few more drinks the skanks started to look more appealling (that's always a bad sign). I ended up screwing someone that I normally wouldn't have and let's just end it at that.
Second day. Went to the Toul Sleng genocide museum. Lost my appetite. Back to the hotel for a nap. Woke up and went downstairs to grab a bite to eat. Saw this young thing. Her name was Mia, age 25. Off we went to the Spark. Again the place was rocking, but Mia refused to dance, so we left after a beer. Went back to the hotel and shagged. The next morning I asked her how much and she said whatever you want - that's music to my ears. I gave her $15 but she frowned, so I gave her $20 instead, plus all my leftover soft drinks in the fridge. She was the highlight of my trip to PP. I'm flying out to Bangkok.
Someone in this forum should recommend another more decent girlfriendly hotel, so there will be more choices.
Maate, the walkabou has no class.
There are numerous girl friendly hotels, but they don't have hot and cold running women on tap like The Walkabou.
There are better areas to enjoy like the Midway bars, Street 104, Street 136. Mr Kim has just bought the old bar 51 on the corner opposite the Shanghai and is rebranding it as The Black Cat. He is after 20 girls.
Friend of mine enjoyed the Hotel Cara at $30 something, sounds good to me and near street 136.
Was alive and kicking when I visited PP,
The minute you enter the bar you are surounded by cute small Khmer girls and before you drink the first aip from your beer you find yourself being blown by 3 girls on the bar, I took this 3 girls to the backroom and had a lot of fun with them.
Why would anyone go to PP, Cambodia if they could go to Bangkok instead?
[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Why would anyone go to PP, Cambodia if they could go to Bangkok instead?[/QUOTE]
Buisness, sight seeing and places like Sophie's that don't exist in Bangkok
and the Khmer girls are smaller in size, gentler in look and different from the Thai girls.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Why would anyone go to PP, Cambodia if they could go to Bangkok instead?[/QUOTE]Mmm, maybe because the Khmer are nicer people, it is cheaper, and the girls don't have tatoos and attitude.
And the police are not out to entrap or arrest people for anything. That's important to me.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Why would anyone go to PP, Cambodia if they could go to Bangkok instead?[/QUOTE]Because poor guys like me can't afford anything else! If you only have $50 a day to live on, you have to spend it wisely. Even in Pattaya, it takes a minimum of $30 for a night with a girl. If I go to cambo, I can get a girl for $10 a night. That leaves a lot left over for my living expenses. I can get LT every single night like that and it'd be within my budget. Could you do that in Bangkok?
[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Why would anyone go to PP, Cambodia if they could go to Bangkok instead?[/QUOTE]
Was just trying to experience the monger-side of PP, but I guess having only 2 days just didn't do it justice. I'll give it another try later.
And if you really want to take a girl off the market, it is only 1/3 to 1/4 the cost than to do the same with a Thai Girl or a filipina.
[quote=kenny rogers]thanks. if they check the girls id that's actually a benefit. i choose the bougainvillier because sisowath quay is close to the action and the suites have a stunning view overlooking the mekong river. plus, for additional 5$ you have reliable broadband internet which i need and a room safe.
i can let you know how it's been when i'm back.[/quote]well, i have to correct myself. bougainvillier hotel is nice and staff friendly, but not girl friendly.
thing is, 70 to 80 % of the girls (especially in martini's and sharky's) do not have id-cards. no id-card, no girl. i once bribed the security guy with 5 $, but he insisted on maximum of one hour. and that's not wahy you take a girl out.
also, be warned: the building right next to the bougainvillier is under heavy reconstruction. from 8 am to 5 pm there is so much noise that you can't talk on the phone or even hear yourself think. this is not the fault of the hotel, although they knew it when i booked and said nothing. i had to move out yesterday, couldn't stand the noise. as it is main seasons everything in phnom penh is booked out, so it had to be the interconti for the double cost. at least they're more girl friendly here. prices seem to go up here lately, probably because of much traffic from thailand diverting here. girls demand 20$ for short time, although most will still settle for 15 $. tuk-tuk driver scams gotten worse, especially late at night drivers demand 4 or 5 $ out of martini's. hire a good driver for the whole afternoon, 7 to 10 usd. it's worth it. i may be wrong, but to me it appears like there are a lot more **** girls working since i've been here the last time in july. even in martini"s the mama-san's try to hook you up with girls which are **** (and yes, they are. simply ask the girl for her age, compliment her on how gorgeous she looks and then ask her for her chinese horoscope. 99% of all case this won't match with the birthday she's told you before. one girl yesterday appeared to be no older than 13). back off, ngo people are everywhere. i may report more when i have the time.
c'u, kenny
Just come back from a few days on a business trip in PP. Had a lot of meetings during the day but as I was travelling alone I was free in the evening to do what I wanted.
First night I had dinner with some friends and afterwards, as time was getting on, went for the easy option of Cyrecee. Had visisted once before back in August and nothing seemed to have changed in operational terms though prices semed to have gone up a touch. Was swamped with girls as I came through the door. Standard was 6-7 (YMMV) and soon had selected two and went upstairs. Was in the room almost at the top which had no shower. We all had to go up another floor for that. Girls were good and enthusiastic. Can't fault the place, offers an excellent no fuss service and I had a lot of fun.
Next night went over to Walkabout to check it out. Never been before and did not intend to pick up here. Was quite early (say 8pm) but a reasonable number of girls some of very high standard. Was approached a number of times but refused. Didn't enquire on prices. Food was crap.
Decided to move on and headed to Bar 104. Loved it. Girls, once again in my opinion, of very high standard, though some a bit plump. My eye was caught by what I rated an 8 who turned out to be Vietnamese. Her and some firends sat with me and we had a few laughs. They weren't too pushy for drinks and had a good time. I wan't quite sure of the form here so at about 11pm just whispered to the Viet girl asking if she wanted to come back to my hotel. She said yes and went off to get changed. No problem with bar fines or anything like that. So much easier than the Ha Bai Trung bars in HCMC. Back at the hotel she turns out to be the nearest I have ever come across to a nyphomaniac. No rest that night and a great GFE. She left at 9am when I had to start work
Was knackered so although I went back to 104 the next night I didn't take her out again as needed to sleep.
Looking forward to my next trip in the New Year.
CT
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[quote=kenny rogers]well, i have to correct myself. bougainvillier hotel is nice and staff friendly, but not girl friendly.
thing is, 70 to 80 % of the girls (especially in martini's and sharky's) do not have id-cards. no id-card, no girl. i once bribed the security guy with 5 $, but he insisted on maximum of one hour. and that's not wahy you take a girl out.
also, be warned: the building right next to the bougainvillier is under heavy reconstruction. from 8 am to 5 pm there is so much noise that you can't talk on the phone or even hear yourself think. this is not the fault of the hotel, although they knew it when i booked and said nothing. i had to move out yesterday, couldn't stand the noise. as it is main seasons everything in phnom penh is booked out, so it had to be the interconti for the double cost. at least they're more girl friendly here. prices seem to go up here lately, probably because of much traffic from thailand diverting here. girls demand 20$ for short time, although most will still settle for 15 $. tuk-tuk driver scams gotten worse, especially late at night drivers demand 4 or 5 $ out of martini's. hire a good driver for the whole afternoon, 7 to 10 usd. it's worth it. i may be wrong, but to me it appears like there are a lot more **** girls working since i've been here the last time in july. even in martini"s the mama-san's try to hook you up with girls which are **** (and yes, they are. simply ask the girl for her age, compliment her on how gorgeous she looks and then ask her for her chinese horoscope. 99% of all case this won't match with the birthday she's told you before. one girl yesterday appeared to be no older than 13). back off, ngo people are everywhere. i may report more when i have the time.
c'u, kenny[/quote]this post reveals a few of the reasons {id, booked up, ngo, ****, etc}
why bkk is a superior choice to pp.
[QUOTE=Didi Vise]Buisness, sight seeing and places like Sophie's that don't exist in Bangkok and the Khmer girls are smaller in size, gentler in look and different from the Thai girls.[/QUOTE]Those sound like valid reasons for some people preferring PP over BKK.
Personally I am in SE Asia for one purpose, and it's not sight seeing, unless you are talking about the meat that you don't eat.
Sophies, the BJ bar where several ladies take turns sucking your bare dick for two minutes each? Not my thing, but to each their own. I'm not so sure this kind of fun isn't available in a bar in Pattaya. In BKK one could always negotiate a deal with several girls for the same type of session, though probably pay much more.
Smaller size would be of interest to me. On a recent visa run to PP airport I noticed that most of the people were smaller, although I have seen quite a few women this size in BKK, and have had no problem getting together with some.
I cannot comment on the gentler, different look of Khmer females, but maybe after checking out the photo section I'll have an idea. At the airport I saw at least two very attractive young ladies working in food services. The abundance of Vietnamese might be even more of an attraction to spend some time in this country.
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]Mmm, maybe because the khmer are nicer people, it is cheaper, and the girls don't have tatoos and attitude.
And the police are not out to entrap or arrest people for anything, that's important to me. [/QUOTE]Nicer certainly goes a long ways. Though I don't find the Thai people so bad, I mainly deal with and spend time with the P4P ladies. While many of them have attitude issues or are not submissive, my modus operandi is to weed through the rotten apples till I find some worth sticking to. Then whenever I get horny I simply phone one to cum to my hotel room.
But I don't know how well this plan would fare in Penom Penh. To succeed ideally the ladies would need a phone and to be allowed into my hotel room for several hours at a time. Failing that they would need to be able to contact me in some way and stay at least one hour. Being able to speak a modicum of English wouldn't hurt either.
I understand that PP is generally cheaper than BKK. As a Canadian who can buy USD at at least par now, it is especially economical, since the USD along with the Riel is the currency of Cambodia. However reading about $30 ST and the same for a room does not inspire confidence that I will get a deal in PP, since I am typicly paying that in BKK. Would the service and accomodation be much better for those prices in PP?
Regarding the police in BKK, I have read that some like to pull over drivers for nothing and threaten them with a fine they can pay on the spot or at the cop shop. Aside from that I am not aware of any concerns for travellers and have not had any trouble. There are also stories about the tourist police being very helpful. PP, on the other hand, concerns me, with the recent report in this thread of one who was imprisoned and bled of his finances. Though perhaps that was his own fault for illegally taking nude photos of Cambodian women?
[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Because poor guys like me can't afford anything else! If you only have $50 a day to live on, you have to spend it wisely. Even in Pattaya, it takes a minimum of $30 for a night with a girl. If I go to cambo, I can get a girl for $10 a night. That leaves a lot left over for my living expenses. I can get LT every single night like that and it'd be within my budget. Could you do that in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Very unlikely for any half decent looking P4P chick. Maybe some 60 year old grandma would take you up on it. What are you getting for $10 LT? I guess that same babe would be $5 ST.
[QUOTE=Taloha]And if you really want to take a girl off the market, it is only 1/3 to 1/4 the cost than to do the same with a Thai Girl or a filipina. [/QUOTE]Does off the market mean that she lives with you 24 hours a day like a girlfriend or wife? Or can you just see her every day when you're horny and she goes home after the deed is done, or maybe after dinner and a movie?
Speaking of movies, BKK has many theatres and English TV channels. In my area there are internet cafes and Seven Elevens every block, plus many Western restaurants nearby. My hotel is very convenient, located within the huge P4P scene and offers laundry and food services. I have no worries about the security of my person or stuff, and understand that hotel security will side with me if a problem arises with a lady. The security guards take incuming ladies ID cards.
How does PP compare? Can one buy a DVD player there to hook up to the TV in their hotel room?
[quote=kenny rogers]well, i have to correct myself. bougainvillier hotel is nice and staff friendly, but not girl friendly.
thing is, 70 to 80 % of the girls (especially in martini's and sharky's) do not have id-cards. no id-card, no girl. i once bribed the security guy with 5 $, but he insisted on maximum of one hour. and that's not wahy you take a girl out.
also, be warned: the building right next to the bougainvillier is under heavy reconstruction. from 8 am to 5 pm there is so much noise that you can't talk on the phone or even hear yourself think. this is not the fault of the hotel, although they knew it when i booked and said nothing. i had to move out yesterday, couldn't stand the noise. as it is main seasons everything in phnom penh is booked out, so it had to be the interconti for the double cost. at least they're more girl friendly here. prices seem to go up here lately, probably because of much traffic from thailand diverting here. girls demand 20$ for short time, although most will still settle for 15 $. tuk-tuk driver scams gotten worse, especially late at night drivers demand 4 or 5 $ out of martini's. hire a good driver for the whole afternoon, 7 to 10 usd. it's worth it. i may be wrong, but to me it appears like there are a lot more **** girls working since i've been here the last time in july. even in martini"s the mama-san's try to hook you up with girls which are **** (and yes, they are. simply ask the girl for her age, compliment her on how gorgeous she looks and then ask her for her chinese horoscope. 99% of all case this won't match with the birthday she's told you before. one girl yesterday appeared to be no older than 13). back off, ngo people are everywhere. i may report more when i have the time.
c'u, kenny[/quote]
thanks for the heads up. looks like i need to rebook somewhere else.
Just got back from 5 days in Phnom Penh and would give this hotel 2 thumbs up.
25 bucks a night felt like a bargain. Rooms like this in the French Quarter would cost 10 times that amount. Nice pool but, too cold for me. No restaurant even though they advertise one. Room service was cheap from a restaurant near by. 3 bucks a meal. The front desk will order for you. A few pics enclosed.
Later, Saibb
[QUOTE=Saibb]Just got back from 5 days in Phnom Penh and would give this hotel 2 thumbs up.
25 bucks a night felt like a bargain. Rooms like this in the French Quarter would cost 10 times that amount. Nice pool but, too cold for me. No restaurant even though they advertise one. Room service was cheap from a restaurant near by. 3 bucks a meal. The front desk will order for you. A few pics enclosed.
Later, Saibb[/QUOTE]It would be great if you could post a trip report with the latest updates. 37 days to go
[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Nicer certainly goes a long ways. Though I don't find the Thai people so bad, I mainly deal with and spend time with the P4P ladies. While many of them have attitude issues or are not submissive, my modus operandi is to weed through the rotten apples till I find some worth sticking to. Then whenever I get horny I simply phone one to cum to my hotel room.
But I don't know how well this plan would fare in Penom Penh. To succeed ideally the ladies would need a phone and to be allowed into my hotel room for several hours at a time. Failing that they would need to be able to contact me in some way and stay at least one hour. Being able to speak a modicum of English wouldn't hurt either.
I understand that PP is generally cheaper than BKK. As a Canadian who can buy USD at at least par now, it is especially economical, since the USD along with the Riel is the currency of Cambodia. However reading about $30 ST and the same for a room does not inspire confidence that I will get a deal in PP, since I am typicly paying that in BKK. Would the service and accomodation be much better for those prices in PP?[/QUOTE]If you've been curious about Cambodia then you should make the effort and check the place out. I like it there and have visited around 5 times now. If you don't like it after a few days you can return to Thailand.
Alot more girls are getting phones and the $25 rooms at the Angkor international Hotel are only $10 on 4th floor. In some hotels without a lift the higher the floor the deeper the discount. 5 minute walk to by the riverfront.
The bars on the riverfront (most are advertised in the free tour booklets) are within walking distance and good chance of finding girls that can speak English. $20 and up depending on the girl and your negotiating skills.
My advise would be on the 1st day or 2 hire a Driver with a car and pay $20-25 to get the lay of the land.
[QUOTE=Saibb]Just got back from 5 days in Phnom Penh and would give this hotel 2 thumbs up.
25 bucks a night felt like a bargain. Rooms like this in the French Quarter would cost 10 times that amount. Nice pool but, too cold for me. No restaurant even though they advertise one. Room service was cheap from a restaurant near by. 3 bucks a meal. The front desk will order for you. A few pics enclosed.
Later, Saibb[/QUOTE]The double doors next to the reception is into the dinning room. Breakfast there (I think included in room?), but don't think they have a resturant as such.
It got the name when some joker dropped a grenade in to the foyer in the 1990s, it blew up but no one were killed. I suppose that was "big luck"!
I was in PP a few weeks ago. Not much punting possible in my circumstances but the Walkabout seemed to have the best selection for a long time. Went to Martinies which also seemed ok. Maybe things are getting a bit better in PP now? On the not so good side the river resturants on the other side of the bridge had no action at all only food! The selection in Sophies did not seem as good as last time. I missed Srey Phea my favorite. Never went to Sharkies this time but did do a bit of brothel stuff in Toul Kork and on the toll road near the airport (271 I think it is).
I have stayed at Big Luck, New York, Asia Hotel, Flamingos and Lucky Lucky. I find Flamingos best value for money and best position. However the suite rooms in Asia Hotel are interesting with mirror walls and ceiling. New York good for the 7th floor MP. Easy but a bit expensive for what it is. The attraction of Lucky Lucky is that it is only $10 incl AC but out of the way and pretty basic rooms. Big Luck has got decent rooms but I don't think it got that little bit of "extra" the other places have.
Just got back from 4 weeks in Asia.
Went to Bangkok first just couldn't handle the mercinaries, so after 3 days decided to try Cambodia.
What a place, nearly every doable female is available, if the price is right.
Waitresses hotel staff, nurses (had a 2 day stay in hospital) hairdressers.
Unbeleivable!
And a few of the most atractive women I've seen in asia.
That doesn't go for places like Walkabout, what a load of skanky ice and yuma freaks in there. 99.9 are addicts. If you want a long time from there you have to pay part up front so they can score enough to last the distance.
But if something takes your fancy go for a short short time and you'll be ok.
Had a couple of reasonable lookig ones when i first arrived. they bounced up and down at 100mph trying to get me to unload in 5 minutes so they could get out and score.(or maybe to get awayfrom me) Doesn't work for me.
They got pissed off when I started laughing at them and told them it would take a bit more than that to finish me. Gave them $10 and told them to fuck off.
Had some good pickups from Martini's. But sometimes can be hit and miss.
Had the best threesome every with 2 ladies from Martini's. Had to repeat the following night to make sure I hadn't dreampt it. I hadn't.
Sharkys has an occasional good looker but didn't take any just played some pool.
Enjoyed a couple of nice ones from Rose bar too.
I had to return home early because of family reasons. So i'm off again on Monday for a couple more weeks.
I'll do a bigger trip report when I return.
You only live once enjoy while you can.
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[QUOTE=Patarse]Just got back from 4 weeks in Asia.
Went to Bangkok first just couldn't handle the mercinaries, so after 3 days decided to try Cambodia.
What a place, nearly every doable female is available, if the price is right.
Waitresses hotel staff, nurses (had a 2 day stay in hospital) hairdressers.
Unbeleivable!
And a few of the most atractive women I've seen in asia.[/QUOTE]Wow. Next time I'd like to try the freelancer scene much more. Dealing with brothels and mamasans is not the way to go (too many ripoffs). With the average daily wage hovering around the $2 mark, our financial power is just awesome. Can't wait to wave $10 bills in front of the waitresses and maid girls. Man, is it going to be fun seeing them wilt under the temptation! I'm going to book at least two months in phnom penh. Can't wait to get back to the sleaze (and weed! ). LOL.
You can do it any way you want taking a girl "off market". You can have her live with you 24/7 or just have her visit you when you want.
I suggest buying a "Region Free" portable DVD player if you are passing through Narita Airport in Japan. It will play all DVD's. I have bought DVDs from Japan, Korea, Thailand, Bangladesh, Cambodia, Mongolia, Chinese imports and all work on the "Region Free" DVD play I bought at Narita.
Bougainviller Hotel Problems
I booked a suite at the Bougainviller Hotel on October 20, 2007. One month later the following current information on the hotel came to my attention through this forum: "be WARNED: The building right next to the Bougainvillier is under heavy reconstruction. From 8 am to 5 pm there is so much noise that you can't talk on the phone or even hear yourself think. This is not the fault of the hotel, although they knew it when I booked and said nothing. I had to move out yesterday, couldn't stand the noise." In light of these problems, I tried to cancell my reservation (for January), but they declined to refund my deposit. I had to contact my credit card company to help resolve the issue. Nowhere on their web site does it say a deposit is nonrefundable.
There has been a little talk recently about reliable MotoDups in Phnom Penh and I can personally vouch for the service provided by Someth and attach his business card so that you also make use of him.
His command of the English language is as good as you will find and this will ensure that he understands your requests (believe me, this is a huge bonus in a city where there a lot of MotoDups but most seem to not know the tourist haunts). I remember on my last trip a request to be taken to the Boom Boom Room being greeted, by two different MotoDups, by a question asking if I wanted a Lady!! [For those of you not familiar, the Boom Boom Room is a shop to buy cheap music in MP3 or standard audio formats].
If you should decide to use him then please agree a price beforehand so as to avoid any misunderstanding and unpleasentness afterwards. And if you could just tell him that you saw his business card online then I will claim my free ride on my next trip.
Hawk
I am planning a trip to Phnom Penh next month and will be staying for a week. I usually stay at the Phnom Penh hotel. I notice on my visit early this year that the Naga casino is building a hotel beside the casino. Does anyone know wether the hotel is ready for booking?.
Howdy Folks,
This is my first post so I hope you find it useful. I have been living in Cambodia for a year now so I will endeavor to give an overview of the current situation. Bare in mind things change very quickly here! If it helps you to know – I am a 39 year old male in good shape and I speak reasonable Khmer.
There are many new hostess bars opening up. The newest include Manga Bar (Opposite Happy Man / next to Love Story) which has stacks of shy looking girls dressed as Japanese school girls with white shirts and black skirts. They look like they have been brought in from the provinces and have no idea what they are in for. I have not bothered to go back as I have my favorites – more on them later. DV8 is still a winner. Why bother getting a room when you can take two girls upstairs for a "game of pool" and roger them while they are bending over the pool table ($10 each). Slide the panites aside and BAM. Don’t get caught by management though! HAHAAHAHAA. The owner of 104 has opened 136 on St 136 next to Great Palm Bar. Same recipe as 104. Lots of pretty girls, most of whom you can BF ($5) and then fuck senseless for $10-$20 LT. Beware the Khmer ploy of "I never do BJ"which later becomes "ok I try with you for $10 extra". Fuck that. Suck it or walk *****. Clear things in advance. Dingo Bar (St 108 but soon to be renamed) now has some nice young girls in the bar who you can molest. The other night I fingered one while I drank my beer and she gave me a hand job under the counter while I chatted up a Japanese Dental Doctor with big tits! ; . P ($2 tip). Rose Bar on st#104 has some honies. Ask for Anny. Ex Pattaya ***** who will take it in the arse and fuck and suck you all night for $10. Great tits. All of these girls will bang for $10-$20. $30 is waaaaay too much. Don’t ruin it for everyone by overpaying. Walkabout is still skanksville. The other day I went in there with a colleague for a beer after getting pissed at a work lunch and this big titted Viet ***** got me so horny I broke my golden rule and took a Walkabout ho upstairs for ST. When she unstrapped what looked like big firm tits, they were actually low hangers AND. A first for me. She was lactating heavily. Far out man! I spent the next hour getting drenched and giving myself a titty job milkshake. File that one under E for experience. ($5 room / $10 milkshake). Be very careful in Walkabout. A lot of skinny HIV infested tramps. Sugar Shack has reopened under the watchful eye of an ex DV8 girl. Plenty of poontang to be fined and fucked. Sorry. I don’t do Martinis and I don’t do Sharky’s but I know that a stunning little Viet ***** called Janto who I banged a few times is freelancing at Sharkys so try find her. 41/2 feet of hard, smooth, tight asian honey with almond eyes that men would die for. Fuck she is so hot. I even got busted in bed with her by my missus. Not happy Jan; . Both Cyrcee and Mikado are going strong with lots of girls. $15 for an hour upstairs in a room but if you want to just fool around, lick your fingers at the bar and slide them right on in to those nasty little natches. At Cyrcee, Dee and Rose will chew each other out while you ream their holes. Nice work if you can get it.
It is easy as shit picking girls up off the streets in Phnom Penh. Hell, last week I even boned a young ***** who was working the counter at Pencil Supermarket! She gave me her number as I checked out a box of condoms. I rang her the next day and we went to a hotel in my lunch hour. ****! ($free) Prime areas are around Psar Kandal and along St#136. Just walk up and down on dusk and when you get eyed off by a little *****(s), engage her/them in conversation. Do what I did a month ago – take two of them into an alley and have them both suck your cock for $3 each. I cannot wait for water festival – it is going to be street meat heaven. Plus these girls will do anything for a few extra dollars. Photos, movies, shaving, lesbian doubles, your ironing. Enjoy.
The other day I was so fucking horny because my GF was on the blobs. So I decided to try my luck in one of the foot massage parlours on Monivong. Went in and picked out a Viet girl from the gaggle sitting in the foot massage room and without hesitation or asking I get taken upstairs to a private room. 20 mins later she is taking it so far up her arse her eyes were in danger of popping. I got fleeced though. $12 for the hour massage and then $20 for the anal reaming. Still, she wasn’t sitting down for a month so I was happy; .) There are many of these parlours along Monivong to explore. Another great spot to let the fur fly is the street#49 (same street that Cyrcee and Mikado are on). If you come out of Cyrcee, turn right and head over street #136 until you find yourself in a stretch of brightly lit parlours. Tonnes of young (but legal) girls calling you in. Take 4 of them for $5 each and play a round of 12 hole golf. Lots of corn holing and giggles all round. They are also available during the day.
The best thing to do if you are here is find somewhere/someone you like and get their cell number. The bitches here are as unreliable as hell though. One moment they are in the game and the next moment they aren’t. I have a core of ST bangers in my phone who I can call when I get the urge and if they won’t put out I ask them for a friends number for a bit of "surprise party"fucking. You never know what you will get.
All in all, Phnom Penh is pussy heaven for the hardcore. Cheap and truckloads of it with more arriving with stars (and soon my cum) in their eyes.
Hope this helps.
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Lord Smutty,
Thank you for your report but may you send some pictures of these girls?
I was there in PP this past March and had a blast. I'll be there again in March '08. Janto worked at Le Crycee then and I just had to have her for a couple of nights(so cheap). You're absolutely right, she's a real hot spinner and great company too!
[QUOTE=Lord Smutty]Howdy Folks,
This is my first post so I hope you find it useful. I have been living in Cambodia for a year now so I will endeavor to give an overview of the current situation. Bare in mind things change very quickly here! If it helps you to know – I am a 39 year old male in good shape and I speak reasonable Khmer.
There are many new hostess bars opening up. The newest include Manga Bar (Opposite Happy Man / next to Love Story) which has stacks of shy looking girls dressed as Japanese school girls with white shirts and black skirts. They look like they have been brought in from the provinces and have no idea what they are in for. I have not bothered to go back as I have my favorites – more on them later. DV8 is still a winner. Why bother getting a room when you can take two girls upstairs for a "game of pool" and roger them while they are bending over the pool table ($10 each). Slide the panites aside and BAM. Don’t get caught by management though! HAHAAHAHAA. The owner of 104 has opened 136 on St 136 next to Great Palm Bar. Same recipe as 104. Lots of pretty girls, most of whom you can BF ($5) and then fuck senseless for $10-$20 LT. Beware the Khmer ploy of "I never do BJ"which later becomes "ok I try with you for $10 extra". Fuck that. Suck it or walk *****. Clear things in advance. Dingo Bar (St 108 but soon to be renamed) now has some nice young girls in the bar who you can molest. The other night I fingered one while I drank my beer and she gave me a hand job under the counter while I chatted up a Japanese Dental Doctor with big tits! ; . P ($2 tip). Rose Bar on st#104 has some honies. Ask for Anny. Ex Pattaya ***** who will take it in the arse and fuck and suck you all night for $10. Great tits. All of these girls will bang for $10-$20. $30 is waaaaay too much. Don’t ruin it for everyone by overpaying. Walkabout is still skanksville. The other day I went in there with a colleague for a beer after getting pissed at a work lunch and this big titted Viet ***** got me so horny I broke my golden rule and took a Walkabout ho upstairs for ST. When she unstrapped what looked like big firm tits, they were actually low hangers AND. A first for me. She was lactating heavily. Far out man! I spent the next hour getting drenched and giving myself a titty job milkshake. File that one under E for experience. ($5 room / $10 milkshake). Be very careful in Walkabout. A lot of skinny HIV infested tramps. Sugar Shack has reopened under the watchful eye of an ex DV8 girl. Plenty of poontang to be fined and fucked. Sorry. I don’t do Martinis and I don’t do Sharky’s but I know that a stunning little Viet ***** called Janto who I banged a few times is freelancing at Sharkys so try find her. 41/2 feet of hard, smooth, tight asian honey with almond eyes that men would die for. Fuck she is so hot. I even got busted in bed with her by my missus. Not happy Jan; . Both Cyrcee and Mikado are going strong with lots of girls. $15 for an hour upstairs in a room but if you want to just fool around, lick your fingers at the bar and slide them right on in to those nasty little natches. At Cyrcee, Dee and Rose will chew each other out while you ream their holes. Nice work if you can get it.
It is easy as shit picking girls up off the streets in Phnom Penh. Hell, last week I even boned a young ***** who was working the counter at Pencil Supermarket! She gave me her number as I checked out a box of condoms. I rang her the next day and we went to a hotel in my lunch hour. ****! ($free) Prime areas are around Psar Kandal and along St#136. Just walk up and down on dusk and when you get eyed off by a little *****(s), engage her/them in conversation. Do what I did a month ago – take two of them into an alley and have them both suck your cock for $3 each. I cannot wait for water festival – it is going to be street meat heaven. Plus these girls will do anything for a few extra dollars. Photos, movies, shaving, lesbian doubles, your ironing. Enjoy.
The other day I was so fucking horny because my GF was on the blobs. So I decided to try my luck in one of the foot massage parlours on Monivong. Went in and picked out a Viet girl from the gaggle sitting in the foot massage room and without hesitation or asking I get taken upstairs to a private room. 20 mins later she is taking it so far up her arse her eyes were in danger of popping. I got fleeced though. $12 for the hour massage and then $20 for the anal reaming. Still, she wasn’t sitting down for a month so I was happy; .) There are many of these parlours along Monivong to explore. Another great spot to let the fur fly is the street#49 (same street that Cyrcee and Mikado are on). If you come out of Cyrcee, turn right and head over street #136 until you find yourself in a stretch of brightly lit parlours. Tonnes of young (but legal) girls calling you in. Take 4 of them for $5 each and play a round of 12 hole golf. Lots of corn holing and giggles all round. They are also available during the day.
The best thing to do if you are here is find somewhere/someone you like and get their cell number. The bitches here are as unreliable as hell though. One moment they are in the game and the next moment they aren’t. I have a core of ST bangers in my phone who I can call when I get the urge and if they won’t put out I ask them for a friends number for a bit of "surprise party"fucking. You never know what you will get.
All in all, Phnom Penh is pussy heaven for the hardcore. Cheap and truckloads of it with more arriving with stars (and soon my cum) in their eyes.
Hope this helps.
Lord Smutty
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[quote=pinkpearl]this post reveals a few of the reasons {id, booked up, ngo, ****, etc}
why bkk is a superior choice to pp.[/quote]i see your point, traveled to thailand quite a few times, but i still must say that i had some real nice encounters in pnh. picked up a nice girl at martini"s - she must've been early 30, but she was simply gorgeous looking, friendly and fun to be with, even out of the bed. there were a number of short-times with girls ranging from "so-so"over average to "whow". i wouldn't want to miss either bkk or pnh...both are nice if you know where to go.
i'm not into going with **** girls, although it seems to me (and i hope my fellow mongers here will excuse that statement, it is in no way meant to excuse exploitation of children) that because of their presence and the dudes being into that you get even better service from a goodlooking, 30ish lady.
Hi,
Ticket and tour booked in PP for 2 days at the end of this month.
Could anyone tell me where the shooting range is? Or should i just tell driver to take me?
Is there a good driver that you'll recommend? I've checked the ads and "Sam" is definitely making his own testimonials.
Lastly, if any1 would like to meet up for a drink and maybe monger 2gether, then i'll be happy to shout the drinks =D
Harry
[QUOTE=Taloha]And if you really want to take a girl off the market, it is only 1/3 to 1/4 the cost than to do the same with a Thai Girl or a filipina.[/QUOTE]
they really don't go off the marked, just become cherry pickers. Not a good idea as it helps drive up the price.
[QUOTE=Happy Harry]Hi,
Could anyone tell me where the shooting range is? Or should i just tell driver to take me?
Harry[/QUOTE]
Well my experience was they would take me there even though I didn't want to. Probably a good provision. There is one close to Choeung Ek the Killing Fields.
[QUOTE=Happy Harry]Hi,
Could anyone tell me where the shooting range is? Or should i just tell driver to take me?
Is there a good driver that you'll recommend? I've checked the ads and "Sam" is definitely making his own testimonials.
Harry[/QUOTE]
Hi Harry,
check out [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=671261&postcount=732[/url] he really is very good.
Hawk
Can anyone help me with an email address for Flamingos? Stayed at Paragon last year and want to be a bit closer to the action this year. I have paged back through the forum for quite a ways and can't seem to find an address. Thanx for the help.
AF
[QUOTE=AncientFornicatr]Can anyone help me with an email address for Flamingos? Stayed at Paragon last year and want to be a bit closer to the action this year. I have paged back through the forum for quite a ways and can't seem to find an address. Thanx for the help.
AF[/QUOTE]From a Google search, this seems to be their website:
[url]http://www.flamingos.com.kh/[/url]
Tel: (855) 23 221640
E-mail: [email]info@flamingos.com.kh[/email]
#30, St. 172, Sangkat Phsar thmey 3, Khan Daun Penh,
Phnom Penh, Cambodia
[QUOTE=AncientFornicatr]Can anyone help me with an email address for Flamingos? Stayed at Paragon last year and want to be a bit closer to the action this year. I have paged back through the forum for quite a ways and can't seem to find an address. Thanx for the help.
AF[/QUOTE]These are the address details of the hotel
[url]www.flamingos.com.kh/index.php[/url]
E-mail: [email]info@flamingos.com.kh[/email]
Flamingos Hotel
#30, St. 172, Sangkat Phsar Thmey 3, Khan Daun Penh
Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Tel: +855 23 221 640
Kurt
Not allowed to post e-mail addresses so not possible. Do a search on google and you will find their site simply their name followed by com dot kh. You can reserve there too. Find it a nice place near ground zero.
[url]http://www.flamingos.com.kh/[/url]
You could GOOGLE it.
Lol, otherwise if you're lazy then here's the w/s:
[url]http://www.flamingos.com.kh/[/url]
Hope that helps,
HH
p.s. You need to verify your email b4 they will contact you directly.
[QUOTE=AncientFornicatr]Can anyone help me with an email address for Flamingos? Stayed at Paragon last year and want to be a bit closer to the action this year. I have paged back through the forum for quite a ways and can't seem to find an address. Thanx for the help.
AF[/QUOTE]
Hi there Ancient One,
the Flamingo can be contacted here,
"Tel: (855) 23 221640
E-mail: [email]info@flamingos.com.kh[/email]
#30, St. 172, Sangkat Phsar thmey 3, Khan Daun Penh,
Phnom Penh, Cambodia"
this is straight off of the Flamingo web-site so should be current
Hawk
[QUOTE=Lord Smutty]Howdy Folks,
This is my first post so I hope you find it useful. I have been living in Cambodia for a year now so I will endeavor to give an overview of the current situation. Bare in mind things change very quickly here! If it helps you to know – I am a 39 year old male in good shape and I speak reasonable Khmer.[/quote]Thanks for information very useful. Will be in PP sometime early January. Send me a PM if interested in letting me buy you a few drinks in exchange for a little local info.
[QUOTE=Happy Harry]Hi,
Ticket and tour booked in PP for 2 days at the end of this month.
Could anyone tell me where the shooting range is? Or should i just tell driver to take me?
=D
Harry[/QUOTE]
Harry, there are several ranges around PP. Some are bigger than others with alot more weapons of mass destruction to choose from. The big ones are actually outside the PP city limits, beyond the airport. Telling a driver may do no good as he may only take you to a place that is closer and may not be the best one.
Best bet is go to one of the ex-pat hotels (ex. Flamingo hotel) and other mongering holes/bars and let someone there tell them in native Cambo which one you are interested in.
PT
Just a quick little update. Visited the following last night;
104; Most uninterested bunch of scrubbers I have come across in one year. Maybe it was exhaustion due to the Water Festival but they all needed a good rocket up the arse. One eventually came and sat next to me.I was watching the telly and every time i looked over at her she put on a lovely FAKE smile and then when i would look away she almost went to sleep. What a fucking disaster.
Rose Bar ; See above. Same Same.Bunch of dead above the shoulder bitches . One was even picking her nose for all to see.
Bar 136; The bar was PUMPING !! Stacks of chicks. Stacks of guys and basically a great night ! Had a handjob at the bar from my special little friend.Definately a favourite now.
Shanghai ; First time i have ever been there. Quite a few nice loooking girls but all a bit goody goody two shoes for my liking.
Home drunk as hell around....er.....not sure!
LS
I have been to Phnom Penh for a few times.
I normally went to Shanghai karaoke with my buddy and at the end of the session took the girl who sit with us back to the hotel.
Here are some of the girls
Name: Victoria
Race: Russian
Age: 25
Face: 5
Body: 5, Skinny
Breast: Small
Skin: Rough
Pussy: Wet
BBBJ: 6
DATY: Yes
FK: Yes
GEF: 3
FJ: 5
Damage: USD100
It was out of ego that I took this Russian girl since I have never tried one before. My buddy took one too.
These two girls seems to be on drugs and hid in the toilet for a long time before coming out. Really a bad choice. Price was supposed to be LT but we let them go after the first shot.
Name: Han
Race: Vietnamese
Age: 23
Face: 7
Body: 6
Breasts: 32A
BBBJ: 3, reluctant
Pussy: Hairy
Daty: Not allow
FK: None
GEF: 2
Damage: USD50
A bad choice either despite the pretty face. She was so cuddly during the karaoke session but attitude changed totally once we got back to the hotel. She was just lazy. I asked her to leave after the first shot. She asked for tips but I refused.
Name: Cheng Mong
Race: Vietnamese
Age: 23
Face: 8
Body: 7
Breasts: 33B
BBBJ: 7
FK: 7
DATY: Yes, no smell
FJ: 8
GEF: 8
Damage: USD50
This is the best girl I ever had in Phnom Penh. She stayed till the following morning. We had two wonderful session.
[QUOTE=Lvr37]Damage: USD50[/QUOTE]Why in the hell are you paying so much money?
It is no wonder PP is getting expensive!
ls
[QUOTE=AncientFornicatr]Can anyone help me with an email address for Flamingos? Stayed at Paragon last year and want to be a bit closer to the action this year. I have paged back through the forum for quite a ways and can't seem to find an address. Thanx for the help.
AF[/QUOTE]Just FYI but I had some things stolen from my bags on the 1st day I checked in to the place. The place has some bad seeds and I'm guessing it's staff. The door lock/latch can easily be opened with a coat hanger as I observed afterwards.
The room has a safe so I am at fault for being careless but nonetheless someone was in the room going through all my stuff.
[QUOTE=Lord Smutty]Why in the hell are you paying so much money?
It is no wonder PP is getting expensive!
ls[/QUOTE]He is referring to Shanghai KTV, NOT Shanghai Bar. Shanghai KTV is a more upmarket KTV joints near Phnom Penh hotel, with rows of girls, mostly Vietnamese, to choose from. The girl will accompany you for drinks inside a KARAOKE ROOM and the establishment charge USD6 per girl for them to accompany you in the KTV room to drink and sing song the whole night. But you are still expected to tip the girl USD5 to USD10 when you leave without her AND if you are taking her back for overnight, it is USD50, standard market rate. Heineken is USD3 to 3. 5 per can and Johnnie Walker Black Label is USD35 excluding mixer, which is charged on per can basis. The girls can speak Mandarin and Cantonese as the clientele are mostly Malaysia, Singaporean although the occasional Cambodian, Japanese and Koreans and the girls are mostly Vietnamese precisely because of these reasons. Most Vietnamese girls have fair skin!
Similar type of KTV include CASA, Mega, 99.
In fact, these KTVs are considered mid-range in term of pricing of drinks, girls, rooms etc as there are KTVs that cater exclusively to rich Cambodians that charge room by the hour with even higher prices for drinks. Example, ROCK KTV, X2, X0.
From Asian's point of view, the quality of the girls there are of course, mostly better than girls that you can find in Walkabout, Martini, Cycree. Fill in the blanks. And other pick-up joints in the mostly Westerner scene where the standard market rate is USD15 to USD30, all inclusive.
I hope this clear things up.
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[QUOTE=Lord Smutty]Why in the hell are you paying so much money?
It is no wonder PP is getting expensive!
ls[/QUOTE]Amen brother. Guys who pay over the odds spoil it for everyone. Let's work together to keep the prices low. If we all walk when the prices go up then they'll quickly drop them again!
I too am a bit startled at the idea of anyone paying $50.
Was this a joke?
[QUOTE=Lvr37]I have been to Phnom Penh for a few times.
Damage: USD100
[/QUOTE]
Hi there Lvr,
Was this a typo? You really meant $10, right?
I have heard the girls claim to be paid $50 and more and always thought the punter must be drunk or something.
Why would you pay so much for what you claim to be poor service?
I really am interested why someone who has been to Phnom Penh previously would still think it right to pay so much money.
Hawk
[QUOTE=Lord Smutty]Just a quick little update. Visited the following last night;
Bar 136; The bar was PUMPING !! Stacks of chicks. Stacks of guys and basically a great night ! Had a handjob at the bar from my special little friend.Definately a favourite now.
Home drunk as hell around....er.....not sure!
LS[/QUOTE]
Hi LS,
good to hear that you are having fun. After reading Lvr's piece I have ask how much you gave the poor little thing for the service at the bar, this is certainly not the normal service to be provided.
I don't think that is why the tissues are provided though.
I was going to ask where, at the bar, you were sat, but have decided that it is best not to know!!
Hawk
P.S. if that is what you use the tissues for may I ask what you did with the pea-nuts?
[QUOTE=Cowboy Brew]He is referring to Shanghai KTV, NOT Shanghai Bar. Shanghai KTV is a more upmarket KTV joints near Phnom Penh hotel, with rows of girls, mostly Vietnamese, to choose from. The girl will accompany you for drinks inside a KARAOKE ROOM and the establishment charge USD6 per girl for them to accompany you in the KTV room to drink and sing song the whole night. But you are still expected to tip the girl USD5 to USD10 when you leave without her AND if you are taking her back for overnight, it is USD50, standard market rate. Heineken is USD3 to 3. 5 per can and Johnnie Walker Black Label is USD35 excluding mixer, which is charged on per can basis. The girls can speak Mandarin and Cantonese as the clientele are mostly Malaysia, Singaporean although the occasional Cambodian, Japanese and Koreans and the girls are mostly Vietnamese precisely because of these reasons. Most Vietnamese girls have fair skin!
Similar type of KTV include CASA, Mega, 99.
In fact, these KTVs are considered mid-range in term of pricing of drinks, girls, rooms etc as there are KTVs that cater exclusively to rich Cambodians that charge room by the hour with even higher prices for drinks. Example, ROCK KTV, X2, X0.
From Asian's point of view, the quality of the girls there are of course, mostly better than girls that you can find in Walkabout, Martini, Cycree. Fill in the blanks. And other pick-up joints in the mostly Westerner scene where the standard market rate is USD15 to USD30, all inclusive.
I hope this clear things up.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the explanation,[b]Cowboy Brew[/b] . It was exactly the situation.
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi there Lvr,
Was this a typo? You really meant $10, right?
I have heard the girls claim to be paid $50 and more and always thought the punter must be drunk or something.
Why would you pay so much for what you claim to be poor service?
I really am interested why someone who has been to Phnom Penh previously would still think it right to pay so much money.
Hawk[/QUOTE]Nanahawk,
That is highend KTV price 100 USD is for russian rare in PP , I know that is high but the guy can afford it more power to him , everything is going up here and $10 p4p is getting harder and harder to find .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Blunderer]I too am a bit startled at the idea of anyone paying $50.
Was this a joke?[/QUOTE]
Maybe because of the USD depreciation?
Some days ago USD was called a worthless piece of paper.
I don't see it that extreme, but it's some truth or tendency in it.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi there Ancient One,
the Flamingo can be contacted here,
k[/QUOTE]
Thanks to everyone for the Flamingo address. I got booked in for three weeks in February. Looking forward to catching up on all I have been missing since last year.
Will spend a few weeks in LOS visiting some friends as well as a bit of mongering but expect PP to be a better venue.
THANX
AF
$50 is at least 3X what it was worth. The $$ is their defacto currency. Pay what you want - the rest of us will have to suffer later...
US$ 20 LT, US$10 ST. All of us need to stick to this. The girls are happy with this arrangement. Buckle up and have some fun in PP (the good times capital of the world). Will be over visiting again late feb/early march and am going to go downstairs right now and cross off another day on the count down calander. Can't wait to get there! Take care and I hope to bump into some of you for a beer or fifty when I get there. Have fun and be good(ish).
[QUOTE=Robarts]US$ 20 LT, US$10 ST. All of us need to stick to this. The girls are happy with this arrangement. Buckle up and have some fun in PP (the good times capital of the world). Will be over visiting again late feb/early march and am going to go downstairs right now and cross off another day on the count down calander. Can't wait to get there! Take care and I hope to bump into some of you for a beer or fifty when I get there. Have fun and be good(ish).[/QUOTE]Such comment and the rest that followed immediately after my post explaining the differences and the asian scene and the western scene seem to indicate that my explanation is either ignored or unappreciated. Please go back and read my post before commenting but remember the two scenes are different.
The girls in the KTV I have described will not even entertain you and negotiate if you want to go below usd50. They may be willing to go lower if they already knew you beforehand and you are a returned customer.
Please do bear in mind, this is not the usual scene where the westerners go in, sit on a stool on a bar, order a beer, look around, chat up the bargirls or freelancers and negotiate the price. The prices in that scene is still pretty much the same since 2000. Usd10 st, usd20 to 30 lt.
Shanghai bar is part of that scene.
Shanghai KTV is not! The whole modus operandi of the mid-range KTV in Cambodia have remain the same pretty much since they were opened. They have never been willing to go with customers at usd10 st. In fact, the customers tip the girls usd10 just for sitting with them, drinking, chatting, dancing in the KTV room and the tip is standard and non-negotiable. There are a few less popular outlets that will accept usd5 but rarely.
Let me ask all of you who blindly comment one simple questions? Have you guys ever been to one any of those KTV I have mentioned?
The two scenes are different. I am sure you all agree in most countries, there are different scenes of p2p with different level of pricing. The price of streetwalker is different from brothels and those from upmarket escorts anywhere in the world and. Some of you seem to assume the phnom penh is still a shithole like it was before in the early 90s and that everywhere is the same, one size fits all.
As to the comparison of the quality of girls in the western bar scene and the KTV scene, it is a matter of personal taste but ask any asians this side of the world, including Cambodians and the preference will be toward girls in the KTV regardless of whether they can afford or willing to pay that price. And as to variety, the mid-range ktvs definitely have more girls.
Go ahead, patronise a upmarket Cambodian KTV like x2 and the rock. No, the girls in there are definitely not happy with these so-called "arrangement". They will probably ask you to fuck off.
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Robarts,
You are kind of right about your price structure. If you shop only at the Martini's, Sharky's or anything western style bar, those are the prices. However, in my opinion, the girls there aren't very pretty compared to other places.
Cowboy,
Most of the guys on this board are westerners so they have a certain paradigm when it comes to mongering. For many of them, women are all the same so why pay a higher price for the same thing? Like you, I believe there are many levels of beauty which warrants a different price structure.
I have a story about pizza which relates to taste and perhpas women. When I was in college, my roommate was from NY who loved his pizza. He asked me where he could get decent pizza so I took him to my favorite pizza joint. Well, he wasn't impressed at all. That summer, I visited him in NY. We went drinking, girl hunting, and he took me to a 'real' pizza joint around his neighborhood. In my opinion, it was just like CA pizza. What is the point of this story? For most Cali boys, pizza is pizza while a New Yorker will tell you differently.
Pharmacies
I needed to buy some unusual medications, so I got a recommendation from a local friend and went to Pharmacie de la Gare, corner Moniving boulevard and Str 106. Very professional operation.
Second best I #50, Str 136, similarly professional.
There is a cluster of pharmacies around Str 51 and Str 136, all seem to have a good range of stock.
None of the above stocked Vardenafil, the generic for Levitra.
[QUOTE=Cowa Banga]Cowboy,
For most Cali boys, pizza is pizza while a New Yorker will tell you differently.[/QUOTE]
CB
While I agree that pizza is pizza I can't agree that pussy is pussy. There is definitely good, better and best. And on rare occasions I must admit there is bad.:-)
Ancientsan,
I agree when it comes to trim. There is OK, good, and great trim hence the price structure. However, there is a shit of load of guys who go to Pattaya who will tell you differently. In my view, if wasn't for the tourists, ugly Thai women wouldn't get laid.
Hey Guys if anybody is in PP at the moment you have got to try this girl out you will find her in Cyrcee her names Mailin mid 20s good body quite pretty face.
But wow I went upstairs with her and man she was a right horny and dirty little ***** she started off with a BBBJ, then ar I was so horny I thought I would come their and then, so I told her I had enough pleasure now it was her turn I ddp her It was amazing an experience I will never forget, infact I am planning my next trip very soon just to see her.
So go on guys go into le cyrcee and give her a right old rodgering from me, This girl just loves sex.
Let me know what you think.
[QUOTE=AncientFornicatr]CB
While I agree that pizza is pizza I can't agree that pussy is pussy. There is definitely good, better and best. And on rare occasions I must admit there is bad.:-)[/QUOTE]No doubt. Like it has been said:
"No need to tell em anything. Giving head on demand should be a requirement for any woman.
And it should be killer head, not just good head. But how do you know the difference if you ain't ever had either?"
I am thinking about staying at the Sunway on my next trip to pp does anybody know if this hotel is girl friendly, please let me know.
[QUOTE=Cam Bodia]I am thinking about staying at the Sunway on my next trip to pp does anybody know if this hotel is girl friendly, please let me know.[/QUOTE]Yes - I don't really know too many hotels that are not.
Hi guys, this is my first post here. I normally travel to China, Philippine and Thailand. However this time we are planning on traveling to Hong Kong and then to Cambodia. I need some help in finding a good and cheap flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia since I am paying for 3 tickets.
I have done a lot of search however it seems I can not find a direct flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia, then all stop one place or another. Any help will be appreciate. Thanks in Advance.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi guys, this is my first post here. I normally travel to China, Philippine and Thailand. However this time we are planning on traveling to Hong Kong and then to Cambodia. I need some help in finding a good and cheap flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia since I am paying for 3 tickets.
I have done a lot of search however it seems I can not find a direct flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia, then all stop one place or another. Any help will be appreciate. Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]Csun213,
Dragon air have 2 flight a day to PP they are own by cathay pacific you might able to book a flight in the US from SFO to PP with stop over in HKG .there are also many air line from Bangkok cheap airline like airasia cost only 120 usd round trip .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi guys, this is my first post here. I normally travel to China, Philippine and Thailand. However this time we are planning on traveling to Hong Kong and then to Cambodia. I need some help in finding a good and cheap flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia since I am paying for 3 tickets.
I have done a lot of search however it seems I can not find a direct flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia, then all stop one place or another. Any help will be appreciate. Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]Dragon Air and Siem Reip air have a direct service from HK to Phnom Penh. China Southern Air also have a service from Guangzhou.
THe PP airport web site tells you which services arrive and depart - [url]http://www.cambodia-airports.com/phnompenh/en/info.asp?region=int&type=arr&timetables=go%21[/url]
Dragon Air has driect flights HK-PP.
[QUOTE=Csun213]Hi guys, this is my first post here. I normally travel to China, Philippine and Thailand. However this time we are planning on traveling to Hong Kong and then to Cambodia. I need some help in finding a good and cheap flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia since I am paying for 3 tickets.
I have done a lot of search however it seems I can not find a direct flight from Hong Kong to Cambodia, then all stop one place or another. Any help will be appreciate. Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]
Not sure how long you plan to be in HK but I found the easiest and cheapest way to go onward to Cambo is by booking a "package" deal with the tons of travel agencies in HK. Many times (especially in off -season) these packages=include flight and hotels in 4 stars, and transport cost just a little more than booking a RT flight on your own. But these packages usually will include 1 or more destinations as a tour with a set # of days. If you only want to go to a specific place with specific # of days in just that destination then you may not have any other option than booking a RT ticket on your own. Even so, sometimes the HK travel agents can often find cheaper last minute tickets than you can book on your own.
Hope this helps.
PT
Thanks guys for all the information. I will look into them. Thanks again.
Looked at the prices it is very expensive from HK to PP. You might find Airasia from Sezhen to BBK and to PP may be cheaper.,
Hi guys,
I'll be in PP & SR in February/March for a week and this forum provides great info.
The US$ seems to be the de-facto mongering currency.
Do you carry a wad of small $-bills around? $5 denominations seem to be appropriate.
If so, do you bring them from the USA, or where do you get them?
Do the ATMs dispense US$?
Do the bars/hotels/restaurants/shops/banks give out change in US$?
I am from Europe, have 'enough' US$ for my mongering needs, but it's all in 20$ bills. I don't want to start an inflation, so how do I get it changed?
Thanks for your input.
you can change them at banks(wait in line) or at mony changers around markets also everyone uses us dollars. use $20bill to pay at restaraunts , etc will give change in usd. taxi drivers and motos (NEVER have change). always give them correct amount 2000 riel for motos.
@ Lee66: Thanks for your reply .
I have another, more delicate question.
Occasionally, I like to enjoy backdoor fun (strictly hetero!).
From reports here, I undestand that it is sometimes available. I also understand that everything needs be negotiated upfront, to avoid 'misundestandings' later.
Given the probable language problems, a delicate broaching of the subject will not be possible.
A blunt and direct approach like 'hi beautifull, my name is John, will you let me do your ass?' will put the lady off straight away. Is it a no-no in Khmer culture?
So how to go about it?
Money can be a bit messy in Cambodia. In Phnom Penh the economy is in both riel and dollars although more so in dollars for tourists. In the more remote areas it is much more in riel.
I usually have my money in three different places. One for larger denominations dollars which I change in resturants etc (or in regional areas moneychangers/ gold shops).
I have a vat of 1 and 5 dollar notes for bits and pieces
Finalyl i keep the riel for tips, and moto drivers.
I often end up with packs of 100 riels (they do have 50 riel but no one seem to like them) which I keep seperate again for beggars etc.
If dollar notes are the least bit damaged you may have problems passing them off. On the other hand the riel notes are sometimes so torn you cannot read them without problems.
[QUOTE=Daddy San]@ Lee66: Thanks for your reply .
I have another, more delicate question.
Occasionally, I like to enjoy backdoor fun (strictly hetero!).
From reports here, I undestand that it is sometimes available. I also understand that everything needs be negotiated upfront, to avoid 'misundestandings' later.
Given the probable language problems, a delicate broaching of the subject will not be possible.
A blunt and direct approach like 'hi beautifull, my name is John, will you let me do your ass?' will put the lady off straight away. Is it a no-no in Khmer culture?
So how to go about it?[/QUOTE]The culture is universal. Show $10 point to the arse and the deal will be done. If you are an arse fucker then it is probably the simplest way to do it. Don't kid yourself the $ are the key in the transaction any turn off by too direct questioning will be solved by the willingness to pay the going fee.
Seriously I seems harder to get good anal in Cambo but absulutely not impossible. The girls seems a bit more shy at least the Khmers. Sophies had a few which were three holers.
It has always been a bit take it or leave it for me as there seems to be perfectly good alternatives only millimeters away.
[QUOTE=Cepu19]Money can be a bit messy in Cambodia. In Phnom Penh the economy is in both riel and dollars although more so in dollars for tourists. In the more remote areas it is much more in riel.
I usually have my money in three different places. One for larger denominations dollars which I change in resturants etc (or in regional areas moneychangers/ gold shops).
I have a vat of 1 and 5 dollar notes for bits and pieces
Finalyl i keep the riel for tips, and moto drivers.
I often end up with packs of 100 riels (they do have 50 riel but no one seem to like them) which I keep seperate again for beggars etc.
If dollar notes are the least bit damaged you may have problems passing them off. On the other hand the riel notes are sometimes so torn you cannot read them without problems.[/QUOTE]Cepu,
Most business and moto driver prefer usd or thai baht because riel is not a stale currency ,I carry 20 bht bill for moto driver One dollar usd is too much for short trip ,most business give you change in riel even they have usd on hand give you bull shit like no have .
Fast eddie 48
I've emailed the flamingo twice, and got back some auto computer message. Asking if I was a real person or if its spam. Tonite I tryed to call the phone # off the website. (855) 23 221640 and I get a message that it not working.
I would like to stay there again. If any you guys are staying there please give Mr. Kim a shout, to checkout his email from Mr. Chris. Or maybe you have a phone # thats works.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Driver SovanMee]Hi All,
I would like let all of you know. Currently, Cambodia and Thai Goverment has agreed to use one visa for Western visitor to both coutries. I think. They going to operate early next year.
OH, don't forget me if you need taxi driver.
Cheer[/QUOTE]Yes, this week the Bangkok post reported the same thing.
The article stated the purpose being to increase tourism.
I am going to visit Siem Reap and PP in Feb. My first time in Cambodia. Can anyone tell me the best flight to take from SR to PP? Is there just one airline flying that roure? I see Siem Reap airways. Any others?
Thanks.
You can PM me if you want.
[QUOTE=Driver SovanMee]Hi All,
I would like let all of you know. Currently, Cambodia and Thai Goverment has agreed to use one visa for Western visitor to both coutries. I think. They going to operate early next year.
OH, don't forget me if you need taxi driver.
Cheer[/QUOTE]I heard about this from 2 years and nothing appeared. Unfortunatly.
It will be a good thing for boosted the tourism in Cambodia, avoiding the corrupted immigration officers operated at thai/Cambodian borders. But the big question is: the same visa for Thailand and Cambodia? Which mean 1 month to spend between Cambodia and Thailand? 1 months for visited 2 country. So few it can be ok for a short trip in angkor. But for the rest of the country?
Where is a good place to stay in PP that is close to action and is fairly nice. I don't mind paying 25-30 bucks for a decent place, etc. Will o nly be there two nights. Oh, close enough to museum, tour things, too. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Redfield10]I am going to visit Siem Reap and PP in Feb. My first time in Cambodia. Can anyone tell me the best flight to take from SR to PP? Is there just one airline flying that roure? I see Siem Reap airways. Any others?
Thanks.[/quote]Redfield,
Check with Siem riep air but I recommended try the fast boat service up the tonle sap is a great trip 6hr and take the vip bus back 5 hr back to PP cost much less and you can see the country.
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Redfield10]Where is a good place to stay in PP that is close to action and is fairly nice. I don't mind paying 25-30 bucks for a decent place, etc. Will o nly be there two nights. Oh, close enough to museum, tour things, too. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Hotels in PP, try Flamingos or Cara, I've stayed at both. I know a driver who's top notch, honest, trustworthy and knows every hoot and holler in the place.
If I was traveling from SR to PP, I'd take Bangkok air. It's a 45 min flight.
[url]http://www.talesofasia.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.canbypublications.com/[/url]
Here are two good links, one of them has all of the airlilne timetables for Camboland.
Shamas O'D
cambodia are a very nice contry to visit but take care?
-police arrested henning after they observed him bringing the girls, aged 10 to 14, to his phnom penh apartment. while police were searching the apartment, he tried to escape by jumping from his balcony to the ground, some four meters (13 feet) below, but crashed into a metal canopy and was arrested. the court also handed a 12-year prison term to thomas sigwart eugen, 42, on debauchery charges. eugen was arrested after police saw him having sex with two of the girls on a videotape confirep001ed from henning. "the two germans committed the crimes because they figured cambodia is a poor country and that they could just use their dollars to buy sex to fulfill their urges, " judge ke sakhan said. "these are illegal acts cambodia cannot tolerate. " both men worked as private english teachers in phnom penh. the germans denied sexually abusing the girls during their trial march 1. henning said the four girls had come to his house to learn english and computer skills from him. a vietnamese couple that acted as sex brokers for the germans received 17-year prison terms each on charges of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]. the couple worked with one of the girl's mothers, who was sentenced to 15 years in jail, also on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] charges. phnom penh's anti-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] police arrested the two germans in separate raids of their rented apartments in the capital, phnom penh, in august. eugen, speaking to reporters at the court friday, said he was "quite shocked" by his prison sentence. child rights advocates say cambodia's lax law enforcement has made it a destination for foreign ****s. however, police have recently stepped up action against offenders. on tuesday, the same court sentenced a swiss man to 11 years in prison for sexually abusing a 12-year-old cambodian girl.
[quote=velvet ground]cambodia are a very nice contry to visit but take care?
-police arrested henning after they observed him bringing the girls, aged 10 to 14, to his phnom penh apartment. while police were searching the apartment, he tried to escape by jumping from his balcony to the ground, some four meters (13 feet) below, but crashed into a metal canopy and was arrested. the court also handed a 12-year prison term to thomas sigwart eugen, 42, on debauchery charges. eugen was arrested after police saw him having sex with two of the girls on a videotape confirep001ed from henning. "the two germans committed the crimes because they figured cambodia is a poor country and that they could just use their dollars to buy sex to fulfill their urges, " judge ke sakhan said. "these are illegal acts cambodia cannot tolerate. " both men worked as private english teachers in phnom penh. the germans denied sexually abusing the girls during their trial march 1. henning said the four girls had come to his house to learn english and computer skills from him. a vietnamese couple that acted as sex brokers for the germans received 17-year prison terms each on charges of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]. the couple worked with one of the girl's mothers, who was sentenced to 15 years in jail, also on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] charges. phnom penh's anti-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] police arrested the two germans in separate raids of their rented apartments in the capital, phnom penh, in august. eugen, speaking to reporters at the court friday, said he was "quite shocked" by his prison sentence. child rights advocates say cambodia's lax law enforcement has made it a destination for foreign ****s. however, police have recently stepped up action against offenders. on tuesday, the same court sentenced a swiss man to 11 years in prison for sexually abusing a 12-year-old cambodian girl.[/quote]well, good sentence for those two low life kiddies molester and what about the high rank cambodian who are abusing child we never heard about that. wonder why? what a fucken corrupted country.
OK, velvet - and YOUR POINT IS?
"Keep away from young stuff"?
Gee, what an interesting concept - nothing under the age of consent... (18 according to the forum rules...)
First off I've read alot of useful infro here. Thanks to all.
This will be my 5th trip to PP.Not new to PP but its still like a new toy to me. I've been around the track a few times,to the same places.
I would like to meet up with others while in PP to do al ittle barhopping and show around to other places.
I'll start this trip like this..
Jan 15-19 Bkk.Nana hotel
Jan 19-25 PP Flamingo hotel
Jan25-Feb1.??Siem Reap or Nookieville??
Feb1-11 Angeles City,Pacific Breeze hotel
Feb 11-18 Pattaya.
Its like a E ticket for SEA. LOL
I've been to the more popular places like Sophies, Cyrcee, Martini's, Sharkies DV8, Walkabout, ect, ect, ect. But would like some other ideas on where to go.
Anyway I know Pattaya and AC pretty well. As well as most you you do. But would like to meet up with others who know PP better than me.
Happy Holidays To All.
SunLion
PS,
Any suggestions where to go to SR or Nookievile?
Thanks~
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]I was there in PP this past March and had a blast. I'll be there again in March '08. Janto worked at Le Crycee then and I just had to have her for a couple of nights(so cheap). You're absolutely right, she's a real hot spinner and great company too![/QUOTE]Spinners.
Does anyone know if a photo of Janto exists in the gallery? Or where she's employed now? freelance hangout. e.g. Sharky's?
Also, I recall a post mentioning a FB down on Monivong and St.282 or 284, $30-40 all in, supposedly stunning Viet girls, but search comes up empty. Does anyone know the name of this place? is it somewhat high end? recommended? I'm flying in late next week.
Thanks.
Jan25-Feb1.??Siem Reap or Nookieville??
Feb1-11 Angeles City,Pacific Breeze hotel
Feb 11-18 Pattaya.
I think you would be beter off going to...
Sihnoukville (12hour bus trip to pattaya) or boat to KO Kong and then to trat and onto Pattaya
Pattaya to BKK (Taxi 800bt)
BKK to manila Cebu pacific $90
Manila to AC. (Taxi & rabbit bus)
I dont know how you will get Sihanoukville to AC unless there is a boat?
I would do it later in the year, but i have to go skiing in Jan and FEB
[QUOTE=Sunlion X]First off I've read alot of useful infro here. Thanks to all.
This will be my 5th trip to PP.Not new to PP but its still like a new toy to me. I've been around the track a few times,to the same places.
I would like to meet up with others while in PP to do al ittle barhopping and show around to other places.
I'll start this trip like this..
Jan 15-19 Bkk.Nana hotel
Jan 19-25 PP Flamingo hotel
Jan25-Feb1.??Siem Reap or Nookieville??
Feb1-11 Angeles City,Pacific Breeze hotel
Feb 11-18 Pattaya.
Its like a E ticket for SEA. LOL
I've been to the more popular places like Sophies, Cyrcee, Martini's, Sharkies DV8, Walkabout, ect, ect, ect. But would like some other ideas on where to go.
Anyway I know Pattaya and AC pretty well. As well as most you you do. But would like to meet up with others who know PP better than me.
Happy Holidays To All.
SunLion
PS,
Any suggestions where to go to SR or Nookievile?
Thanks~[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a friend of mine and I will be in PP and Snookyville same time as you. PM me or whatever if you want to catch up. Tried PM but you have shut off. Read my recent posts about SR they may help your visit there. Another friend who use to live in PP is giving me a whole list of places to be sure and check out while in PP.
Have not been there yet but thought I would past along what I found out from friend that lives in SR that use to run tours in PP. Since so many members have asked about this I thought preliminary info might help until I get there and can provide full report.
Go down to the waterfront across from the Paragon hotel. Grab a boat and tell them you want to go to Kens Vie. He recommends taking the New Paris 2. Use to cost about $5 per hour to rent boat. They will take you down to a bunch of house boats on the river. You can apparently also take a taxi down to some Buddhist Wat on the river and they are on other side. I guess the most important point is to ask for Kens Vie.You go inside and order meal off of the menu. Girls will serve you. If do not like the particular one you get ask for another. When you get done with meal the girls hopes you will select her for a private session. He personally recommends the girl on boat 666 with the reddish hair and pigtail. No telling if still there but worth the suggestion. He also recommended boat 552. Says girls use to cost $10 but who knows now
[QUOTE=RetiredForever]...Go down to the waterfront across from the Paragon hotel. Grab a boat and tell them you want to go to Kens Vie. [/QUOTE]That's something I haven't tried yet, I know there is plenty of action across the river but I haven't ventured there because I really don't know where to go. I guess it helps to have a local guide. Maybe Sovanmee knows more about it. Definitely will check it out on my PP trip Jan 25-31.
Thanks for the tip
QH
Cowboy Brew mentioned these KTV places in an earlier post, and I was hoping to find out a bit more about them:
MID RANGE
Shanghai KTV (NOT Shanghai Bar! different place)
Casa (not the disco, the KTV upstairs)
Mega
99
HIGH END
X2
XO
The Rock
I have been in PP a few times, and the only one of these I've seen is Casa. How do these other places compare to Casa? Is there anything that would make the higher end places worth visiting?
Finally, where are these places?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=RetiredForever]Sounds like a friend of mine and I will be in PP and Snookyville same time as you. PM me or whatever if you want to catch up. Tried PM but you have shut off. Read my recent posts about SR they may help your visit there. Another friend who use to live in PP is giving me a whole list of places to be sure and check out while in PP.[/QUOTE]I think Iam going to Snookieville. And if you around in PP the 19 25 Feb. Or Snookyville the 25 1Feb. PM me and we, ll down a few beers and play grab ass with the girls. I paid for the sub, so you sould be able to PM now.
Arriving in PP on Jan 5 and have hired Sovanmee to drive me around for three days. He's asking $30/day. Staying at the Haw....something Hotel Apartments. PM me if anyone's in town. While I usually fly solo, would'n mind meeting some guys for a beer and exchange of info.
[QUOTE=Wendella]Cowboy Brew mentioned these KTV places in an earlier post, and I was hoping to find out a bit more about them:
MID RANGE
Shanghai KTV (NOT Shanghai Bar! different place)
Casa (not the disco, the KTV upstairs)
Mega
99
HIGH END
X2
XO
The Rock
I have been in PP a few times, and the only one of these I've seen is Casa. How do these other places compare to Casa? Is there anything that would make the higher end places worth visiting?
Finally, where are these places?
Thanks![/QUOTE]I think that X2 and XO are franchised, there are several of them but there is only one rock. I have been to rock and it is an incredibly loud khmer disco for rich kids.
If you have no Khmer language skills I think that you would be wasting your time at these joints and may even get into serious trouble if you were to accost the girl of some rich / connected / milttary / police Khmer.
As for kien svay, it has been cleaned up. The girls may be still available if you were to aks for them, but they are not as obvious as they were.
Thanks for that. I had the impression before that XO and X2 were karaokes, but it sounds like that might be wrong.
But does anyone know where they are? That is what I'm mainly trying to find out. Or some way that I could find out (phone book? I don't see them in the Canby guide)
I think someone else, not me, was asking about Kien Svay -- that's nothing I'd be very interested in. Different strokes though.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Xdentx]Arriving in PP on Jan 5 and have hired Sovanmee to drive me around for three days. He's asking $30/day. Staying at the Haw....something Hotel Apartments. PM me if anyone's in town. While I usually fly solo, would'n mind meeting some guys for a beer and exchange of info.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I am a new member here and am visiting PP for the first time. I spoke to couple of drivers and all of them are quoting 30 - 35 USD for 10 hour in the city.
I will be arriving into PP on 4th and will staty there until 8th jan'08. It will be pleasure to meet you for a beer.
Cheers,
Joyra
I just got back from 4 days in Phnom Penh and here are a couple of observations:
Sophies - Always a moving target, this place was not so good this time around, Mikado had a much better selection of girls.
Cyrcee - This is the easiest and best no nonsense bar in Phnom Penh in my opinion at the moment. Great selection of girls, take them up to the room upstairs or barfine them out, great attitude and great performance. I took a girl called Janto upstairs on the first night. She was absolutely great. Then on the scond night I bar fined a girl called Phuong (I think that was her name) and she was absolutely top shelf in performance and with a great ody and very atractive face..ver happy.
Martini's - Business as usual with plenty of girls, reasonable selection but nothing really oustanding although that will always depend on timing.
Sharkeys - Same same as Martinis but not quite so straightforward and seems like you have to put a bit of effort into catching a girls eye and then negotaite a deal with here generally while eveyone is watching on (particularly if they are playing pool). Reminded me a bit of trying to pick up girls in Gullivers in Bangkok, similar sort of situation.
Heart of Darkness - After 1am this place is heaving and seems to be the place where all the girls come to after the normal bars have closed. If you havent found what you are looking for before 1am then chances are you will find it here.
Street 63 - Plenty of venues but need to be careful with your money. No real problem if you keep your pants next to the pillow on the bed though and do not let them out of your sight at any time. Loads of nice looking Viet girls but performance varies a lot. I used these venues every day and didnt have any problems as there were 2 of us and we were both very careful about keeping an eye on the wallet. Used a number of different places but the best one was the last one on street 63 on the right hand side as you are heading in the direction away from the morning market. I did not note the cross street unfortunately but it is probably 2 kilometeres past the area on 63 where 3 or 4 places are congregated together.
Driver: If you want a really reliable and trustworthy driver then try Jack. He is very well known and is always outside Sharkeys from 6pm onwards, all the drivers know him and he has a card with his name on it if you are in doubt. The card actually says his name which is Savoeun.
Man, you cannot beat those Vietnamese girls, they are the absolute best when it comes to taking a pounding. They can take it as hard as you can possibly give it and just have a completely passive look on their face. Fantastic
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Are any adult CDs for sale in PP and if so, where?
Thanks
Many of the DVD vendors in the "New Market/Central Market" and "Russian Market" have adult DVDs.
XO Club KTV is located at, No 85 A, Street 163.
Prince Harry is correct. It is high end, girls are $75-$100 IF they decide to go with you and you need a high end friend to get the deal done. There are multiple private Karoke rooms for rent. The mamasan brings in girls. You usually take 2 for each person. Then these 2 help prepare your drinks as usally there are a couple of hostesses that help with this also. The 2 girls with you also help you to eat when dinner or other type foods arrive. Think like you only use your hand to roam a little and to take a drink.
X2 Club is located at, No 36, Samdech Pan (St. 214)
Casa Hotel Night Club and Restaurant is located at, No 5 France Street 47 Near Wat Phnom
Club 99 No. 10, Street 252
Taloha, Cowboy Brew, or anyone with experience in these places:
Are the girls there much better than in the expat type spots (Martini, etc.)? When I say better, I mean prettier/younger/more attractive.
I had a chance to see the 'stock room' at Casa one night, it looked like it was 60-70 girls in there at one time, leaving in lines to go to the different karaoke rooms to do a lineup for customers. But this gives me a reference point: are the ones in these other places a good step up from what's available in Casa? (Casa didn't blow me away, by any means) Or about the same?
In that place, it seemed as if take-out was available at the customer's option -- 'up to you'. It sounds like that's not the case in some of these places though.
Any good info appreciated....thanks.
Yes, in the places like XO Club etc.. they are prettier, younger, and more attractive. Even the beer girls (the ones serving drinks) are prettier. The girls are not pressured to go home with an ex-pat or tourist and will generally cost a min of $70 if they do decide to go home with somebody. Though I got one as a semi girlfriend (did not report it here) who after awhile came over after work at night sometimes for less funds. But again, I was introduced by a Khmer etc....
[QUOTE=Wendella]Taloha, Cowboy Brew, or anyone with experience in these places:
Are the girls there much better than in the expat type spots (Martini, etc.)? When I say better, I mean prettier/younger/more attractive.
I had a chance to see the 'stock room' at Casa one night, it looked like it was 60-70 girls in there at one time, leaving in lines to go to the different karaoke rooms to do a lineup for customers. But this gives me a reference point: are the ones in these other places a good step up from what's available in Casa? (Casa didn't blow me away, by any means) Or about the same?
In that place, it seemed as if take-out was available at the customer's option -- 'up to you'. It sounds like that's not the case in some of these places though.
Any good info appreciated....thanks.[/QUOTE]
I tried to register on-line for Flamingo's using their web site...all I got back was this..
"This message is notify you that your verification has been recieved and
that
your email address has been white listed.
All pending messages from your address have been delivered to
[email]info@flamingos.com.kh[/email].
No action is needed on your part.
The headers of the message sent from your address are show below:"
Does anyone know what this means or/and has had a similar experience when trying to reserve room there online?
Also, if it's too much hassle, I can just stay at the CA II Hotel...which do you guys (who haven't answered me yet) prefer and why?
Thanks...
It sounds like Flamingo is popular these days and so maybe they're not doing everything they can to close the deal on reservations. If it was me, and I was dead set on staying there, I'd just phone them. I've seen reports of non-connection when making reservations there, can't remember if it was on this forum or another one. And also of people showing up to find out they had no reservation (when they hadn't received clear confirmation).
I have never made a reservation with Flamingos I just turn up. Never had a problem and if I did then New York, Asia and Big Luck Hotel are all good alternatives. Don't get to hung up in reservations in Cambodia they would have forgotten about it before you turn up on 50% of the cases anyway.
[QUOTE=Wendella]Taloha, Cowboy Brew, or anyone with experience in these places:
Are the girls there much better than in the expat type spots (Martini, etc.)? When I say better, I mean prettier/younger/more attractive.
I had a chance to see the 'stock room' at Casa one night, it looked like it was 60-70 girls in there at one time, leaving in lines to go to the different karaoke rooms to do a lineup for customers. But this gives me a reference point: are the ones in these other places a good step up from what's available in Casa? (Casa didn't blow me away, by any means) Or about the same?
In that place, it seemed as if take-out was available at the customer's option -- 'up to you'. It sounds like that's not the case in some of these places though.
Any good info appreciated....thanks.[/QUOTE]Allow me to clarify a few things. you are right about Casa being a virtual take-out place at the customer's option.
The same goes for 99 Club, Shanghai KTV and Mega.
Casa, 99 Club, Shanghai KTV and Mega are the in the same mould and staffed by girls who are almost certain to go out with customers, unless a customer are particularly unappealing to the girl he choose, which rarely happens.
The girls there are mostly Vietnamese, and ranked 6 to 7 and is available for USD50 LT. on rare occasion, there are girls costing USD100 LT for long-time, which generally are taller, younger and prettier.
These KTVs cater almost exclusively to Chinese (Malaysian, Singaporean, Taiwanese etc) and therefore, most of the girls can speak functional Mandarin other than Vietnamese.
For Cambodians, there are the X0 Club, X2 and the Rock on the high-end side and a multitude of mid-range KTVs. example.. Champ Elyssee near Lucky Market, The Boss near the Wat Phnom. Difference between the KTVs for the Cambodian locals and the four KTVs catering for Chinese are
1) Girls are mostly Cambodians and speak Cambodian ONLY. (the KTVs for Chinese are staffed mostly by Chinese-speaking Vietnamese)
2) Most girls are unwilling to go out or sleep with clients, unless the girls really like you OR you are regulars and have befriended them for a long time or through special arrangement by someone who is a regular or friend of the girl. It is the same situation with girls in local beer gardens OR with Vietnamese girls in KTV or beer om in Vietnam whereby special services are available ONLY AFTER long-term engagement and investment.
Tahola is right about the girls in the Cambodian KTV being much prettier and classier but only if one is not particular about the girls being fair skin. Cambodian girls are mostly of darker skin, BUT there are exceptions and a handful of Cambodian girls working there that are really good-looking AND with fair skin would be in very high demand as Cambodians, like most East Asians, find fair-skin girls more appealing. As expected, fair-skin girls are more likely to be found in the high-end Cambodian KTV than the mid-range ones.
And the ROCK is BOTH a disco and a KTV. If one ever goes to the toilet inside the disco, one will notice the private KTV rooms dotting the hallway leading to the toilet. Rooms are also available on the second level and is accessible by the stairs beside the disco entrance.
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Cowbow Brew,
You REALLY know your shit.
Have you been across the bridge where the beer promotion girls work?
I like Holiday disco as well.
Once again, great stuff.
As I wrap up my first visit to Phnom Penh, I have a couple of thoughts for other newbees. First and foremost, hire a driver for the first couple of days to get the lay of the land. That's going to allow you to do and see a whole lot more than you would on your own. But don't blame me when you decide to use the driver for the whole trip. I contacted Driver Sovan Mee on the recommendation of Shamas. He's courteous, relyable, honest, flexible,knows the city well, pretty good English and $30/day. Pick up at the airport (which is nice when you fly into a place like PP), tour of the sites and bars that you want to check out, waits or sleeps in the car while you do your thing, and makes recommendations if asked.
To give you an idea of the possibilities, say you want to visit a whole list of hostess bars or other venues on your first night to find your kind of place. Of course,these places all want you to sit down and have a drink ect. However I walked through a place first and if the vibe was right and the ladies looked good, I'd sit down. Some places you just walk into
and exit two minutes later. If you're relying on a motodriver, its not that safe or convenient. Plus, these bars are farther apart and more difficult to find than I thought they would be from a map. A good driver knows which bars are grouped together and how to route things efficiently.
Here's what I visited on my first night...7:30 to 1 am. Mikado, LeCyree, DV8 Bar, Rose Bar, 104th Bar, Zanzibar, Martini's, Sharkies, Walkabout, Shanghai Bar, and 136th St Bar. The second night was fine tuning the original list plus adding in ....... Heart of Darkness, Casa KTV, Nice Nice Bar, Golden Wine Bar, Happy man Bar, Flower Bar, Zapata Bar, and Colonial Bar. Because transportation was so convenient, I could afford to spend 60 seconds on a look/see and exit if I wished. With a driver, you're out of the car before he parks. You have instant transportation when you leave with your lady for the night. No negotiation every time you change venues and no searching for a difficult to find place. Time is money when you have traveled a long way to get to PP. Plus, when you exit a bar and 6 moto drivers vie for your business, there's something satisfying in knowing your "car and driver" are standing by.
A word about the traffic/driving situation: incredible and dangerous on a moto. Most intersections have no traffic signals and the mass of cars and motos somehow get through an intersection intact. Lighting can be dim, headlights of motos not functional, and bicycle reflectors nonexistant. You have to experience it to believe it. (The night market is lighted by kerosene lamps, not electric bulbs.) I did a lot of video footage of the traffic from the car because it was so amazing.
Hopefully another report on PP to follow. But now I have to pack for Siem Reap. My driver is picking me up in 1 hour!
Xtendx
Glad you hooked up with Sovan Mee and also happy you were so pleased with him.
I like your discription of traffic in PP, It's as wild as I've ever sceen and I've been all over the world.
Have a good time in SR, the Temples are one of the wonders of the world.
Shamas O'Dognasty
Butt Sniffer to the Stars
A huge thanks to Cowboy Brew and Taloha, who do indeed really know their shit. ;-) I think I have a very good idea what to expect in these KTV's now.
Cowa Banga, I'd be game to hear more about these beer girls across the river.... are these beer company promotion girls wearing the uniform of Tiger, etc., pushing their brand at restaurants or beer-drinking places? If so, Vietnam has the same thing. In VN they are generally nothing amazing, though the ones promoting higher priced stuff like Johnny Walker or Hennessy (in nightclubs) tend to be a good step up. Holiday disco is the one up a ways north of Casa, right? If so, I've been there, but never sure what is the best time to arrive. Not sure if I've been unlucky but when I've gone there, the selection and quality seemed to be lower than at Martini. Things change though. This place has been going since at least 2000, same as Casa, when I went there the first time. On one visit to Casa disco (2003?), it had a dance floor that was ALL working girls (and not too many, maybe 10), and just 2 or 3 customers sitting in the shadows on stools at small round tables. Mamasan circled the room to stir up interest.
Xdentx: Since you seemed to spend a pretty short time in most of those places (how else to get your list that long!), you said you would leave in 60 seconds if it wasn't interesting, I guess we can presume these places mostly weren't doing it for you? It makes me curious which ones you did spend more time in. Or which you went back to on Night #2.
[QUOTE=Shamas]Xtendx
Glad you hooked up with Sovan Mee and also happy you were so pleased with him.
I like your discription of traffic in PP, It's as wild as I've ever sceen and I've been all over the world.
Have a good time in SR, the Temples are one of the wonders of the world.
Shamas O'Dognasty
Butt Sniffer to the Stars[/QUOTE]Must admit I don't find PP traffic too bad. HCMC and Mumbai are IMO far worse. In PP I have hired my own moto to drive around. As long as it is locked to something or under watch when ever not in use it is convenient. I don't drink too much so I find it safe and romantic to drive my love of the night home on the back.
I would never to that in either HCMC or Mumbai.
[QUOTE=Redfield10]I tried to register on-line for Flamingo's using their web site...all I got back was this..
"This message is notify you that your verification has been recieved and
that
your email address has been white listed.
All pending messages from your address have been delivered to
[email]info@flamingos.com.kh[/email].
No action is needed on your part.
The headers of the message sent from your address are show below:"
Does anyone know what this means or/and has had a similar experience when trying to reserve room there online?
Also, if it's too much hassle, I can just stay at the CA II Hotel...which do you guys (who haven't answered me yet) prefer and why?
Thanks...[/QUOTE]I got the same reply, but try this e~mail address.
They responed the next day.
"kumnith" <info@flamingos.com.kh>
Since I'm in SR now, doing exhaustive work, I can only briefly comment on PP bars. The ones I liked the best were DV8 Bar, Rose Bar, 104th Bar, Zanzibar, and 136th St Bar. In my three nights there, I did three LT...all for $50 (sorry bout that). The three came from DV8, Rose Bar, and 104th Bar. Two were Cambo girls with average uninspired performances. The third was half Cambo half Viet and was much more oral and exciting! At this point, I find the Thai and Philippina girls (of Wan Chai HK) much more responsive. These Cambo girls are not very vocal or responsive in my experience compared to other countries. I made a second visit to Mikado on day two and discovered the ladies were without panties. They encouraged me to handle them and that was nice! However, I still wouldn't bar fine them for LT. I hit Walkabout on inpulse one afternoon day two and found a short time for $15. When I got her to the hotel, turns out she was 3 months post delivery and still lactating. Small but very perky breasts. She was rather uncomfortable with the sex and it was an average session. I found the girls at Martini's rather low quality in the two times I dropped in. Sharkey's didn't do anything for me on the two times I visited and I never saw Sophies because I was so focused on LT. I hit Casa and went up to the second floor of the hotel to check out the lounge where about 60 or 70 ladies wait to go to the disco or KTV. Didn't see anything particularly classy or interesting...lower quality than the hostess bars in my opinion. Plus, I have no clue how you would pull one of these girls out of their lounge...or even engage them in conversation. The hostess bars, in my opinion, allow you to chat with the girls while they massage you and otherwise make you feel like a king. The problem with these bars is that they are open until 4 am, so the girls are used to going to sleep at 6 or 7 am. If you go LT with them, they're not ready to sleep when you are. More later.
Interesting. In the past my luck has been best at Martini, but maybe it's gone downhill since then.
About Casa, I think you could go in and get yourself a karaoke room, which isn't much. Can order cheapish drinks like beers if you don't want to splurge on a bottle -- and they would bring in a lineup for you to choose from. Otherwise you are allowed to just get takeout -- and I guess they would also line them up for you for that.
I talked to reception and they seemed to be saying that it was my choice whether to get a room and spend time there or just take a girl out. Price I was quoted was $15 for the room, $50 to take the girl home (which I think was for overnight, but not sure). If you just get the girl, it's $65. If that's the case, may as well get the room since you pay for it either way.
Hi All,
Can anyone tell me when the peak tourist season in PP starts to wind up? Booked for the last week of Feb and hoping that it won't be too busy. Was in PP in June last year and was very quiet however, I am aware that this may not be the case in late Feb. Finally, if anyone is keen to catch up for a beer, let me know (will be at Flamingos).
PS If staying at Flamingos make sure you confrim your booking as both times I stayed there I had trouble getting a room despite booking weeks in advance. On one occaision I had to stay at a sister hotel for a night before they had a room available for me. Also print out the email they send back confirming your booking at take it when you check in. [email]infoatflamingos.com. Kh[/email] has always got back to me within 24hrs in the past.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy]I just got back from 4 days in Phnom Penh and here are a couple of observations:
Sophies - Always a moving target, this place was not so good this time around, Mikado had a much better selection of girls.
Cyrcee - This is the easiest and best no nonsense bar in Phnom Penh in my opinion at the moment. Great selection of girls, take them up to the room upstairs or barfine them out, great attitude and great performance. I took a girl called Janto upstairs on the first night. She was absolutely great. Then on the scond night I bar fined a girl called Phuong (I think that was her name) and she was absolutely top shelf in performance and with a great ody and very atractive face..ver happy.
Martini's - Business as usual with plenty of girls, reasonable selection but nothing really oustanding although that will always depend on timing.
Sharkeys - Same same as Martinis but not quite so straightforward and seems like you have to put a bit of effort into catching a girls eye and then negotaite a deal with here generally while eveyone is watching on (particularly if they are playing pool). Reminded me a bit of trying to pick up girls in Gullivers in Bangkok, similar sort of situation.
Heart of Darkness - After 1am this place is heaving and seems to be the place where all the girls come to after the normal bars have closed. If you havent found what you are looking for before 1am then chances are you will find it here.
Street 63 - Plenty of venues but need to be careful with your money. No real problem if you keep your pants next to the pillow on the bed though and do not let them out of your sight at any time. Loads of nice looking Viet girls but performance varies a lot. I used these venues every day and didnt have any problems as there were 2 of us and we were both very careful about keeping an eye on the wallet. Used a number of different places but the best one was the last one on street 63 on the right hand side as you are heading in the direction away from the morning market. I did not note the cross street unfortunately but it is probably 2 kilometeres past the area on 63 where 3 or 4 places are congregated together.
Driver: If you want a really reliable and trustworthy driver then try Jack. He is very well known and is always outside Sharkeys from 6pm onwards, all the drivers know him and he has a card with his name on it if you are in doubt. The card actually says his name which is Savoeun.
Man, you cannot beat those Vietnamese girls, they are the absolute best when it comes to taking a pounding. They can take it as hard as you can possibly give it and just have a completely passive look on their face. Fantastic
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Hi.
At the 63rd street houses, did you have to pay for the girl up-front or after the deed was done? How much was for a short-time (one shot)?
Thanks.
TC.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy]Street 63 - Plenty of venues but need to be careful with your money. No real problem if you keep your pants next to the pillow on the bed though and do not let them out of your sight at any time. Loads of nice looking Viet girls but performance varies a lot. I used these venues every day and didnt have any problems as there were 2 of us and we were both very careful about keeping an eye on the wallet. [/QUOTE]
Sorry, what do you mean "there were 2 of us and we were both very careful about keeping an eye on the wallet"?
Tom, they always try to rob you at these places. That's no exaggeration, if you do a search on '63' in this thread, you'll see one story after another about it. My own story is nothing spectacular, just caught the guy reaching into the door and grabbing my pants off of a hook they were hanging on. It seems to happen something like 100% of the time. There have also been some stories of customers spotting someone creeping around on the floor to get at pants if they were put on the bed.
[QUOTE=Tom II]At the 63rd street houses, did you have to pay for the girl up-front or after the deed was done? How much was for a short-time (one shot)?[/QUOTE]
Don't remember exactly but I think it was upfront and back in 2003 it was 5$ per shot and maybe 1-2$ tip for the girl. Never been back there since then.
Agree with the others, simply avoid 63 street.
Back then I read all the information and went there with nothing else in the pocket than less than 10$, cheap lighter and some cigarettes.
After the deed was done, they've even stolen the cigs and lighter, and I was happy that at least my pants were still there. :D
Not to be unfair, I have to say, the BBBJ and CFS was pretty good.
Good luck!
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Ekspat]After the deed was done, they've even stolen the cigs and lighter, and I was happy that at least my pants were still there. :D[/QUOTE]
It'd be interesting to try to think of a way to put one over on these guys -- nothing too serious, but just something that sends the message. Maybe wrap something up in your pocket that has a gob of Krazy Glue in it or something. Or maybe something more harmless than that (and therefore less dangerous for you), since I wouldn't be surprised at all if your head would run into a pipe on the way out of the room. That's what these guys are like, though. There were some reports here awhile back of a guy getting attacked with pipes in one place for arguing over being ripped off (that report got deleted for breaking a forum rule regarding grammar and vocab).
So maybe a cigarette lighter with a remote control bomb in it. Yeah, that would do it. ;-)
[QUOTE=Cepu19]Must admit I don't find PP traffic too bad. HCMC and Mumbai are IMO far worse. In PP I have hired my own moto to drive around. As long as it is locked to something or under watch when ever not in use it is convenient. I don't drink too much so I find it safe and romantic to drive my love of the night home on the back.
I would never to that in either HCMC or Mumbai.[/QUOTE]I really don't care where you've been.
Cambodian traffic is different, mad, crazy anything you want to say but fuckin g mental on ts own.
The price at the 63st brothels is $10. You pay upfront. I was quoted this in 2 different places yesterday.Today I partook at 99D and gave him $10 as I was entering the room. He then asked for $20 and laughed. So did I. He walked away with his $10.
I made sure I locked the door, and put my bag on the bed in full sight, and I had no problems. The girl even gave me a half decent 5 minute massage. Remember to be very wary in these places. Even check under the bed for a theif, and be sure to lock the door. If the girl makes an excuse to go out for a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], then lock the door when she comes back in.
[QUOTE=Franga]The price at the 63st brothels is $10. You pay upfront. I was quoted this in 2 different places yesterday.[/QUOTE]
I haven't been to PP in a couple of years, but they always quoted $10 then too. If you came on a motorbike taxi there was no getting out of this ripoff price, as they had to pay $5 to your Cambodian keeper. However once I learned to walk there on my own it was easy enough to bargain to $5 by offering to leave if they did not meet that price. Of course things may have changed.
[QUOTE=Franga]The price at the 63st brothels is $10. You pay upfront. I was quoted this in 2 different places yesterday.Today I partook at 99D and gave him $10 as I was entering the room. He then asked for $20 and laughed. So did I. He walked away with his $10.
I made sure I locked the door, and put my bag on the bed in full sight, and I had no problems. The girl even gave me a half decent 5 minute massage. Remember to be very wary in these places. Even check under the bed for a theif, and be sure to lock the door. If the girl makes an excuse to go out for a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], then lock the door when she comes back in.[/QUOTE]
Hi
When i was in Singapore a couple of years ago, there must had been a theif under the bed, the girl pointed at a place on the floor (very close to the bed) and said put your clothes her.
Later i discovered that a big part af my money was gone !!
This was at Desker road.
BL
[QUOTE=Franga]The price at the 63st brothels is $10. You pay upfront. I was quoted this in 2 different places yesterday.Today I partook at 99D and gave him $10 as I was entering the room. He then asked for $20 and laughed. So did I. He walked away with his $10.
I made sure I locked the door, and put my bag on the bed in full sight, and I had no problems. The girl even gave me a half decent 5 minute massage. Remember to be very wary in these places. Even check under the bed for a theif, and be sure to lock the door. If the girl makes an excuse to go out for a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], then lock the door when she comes back in.[/QUOTE]Sorry to tell you this but the price for barangs (foreigners) is 5$. And never pay upfront. This is Cambodia not Philippines.
[QUOTE=Wendella]
Tom, they always try to rob you at these places. That's no exaggeration, if you do a search on '63' in this thread, you'll see one story after another about it. My own story is nothing spectacular, just caught the guy reaching into the door and grabbing my pants off of a hook they were hanging on. It seems to happen something like 100% of the time. There have also been some stories of customers spotting someone creeping around on the floor to get at pants if they were put on the bed.[/QUOTE]
One of my experiences that I posted a while back included a place with a trap door on both the floor and wall. That's why I stated that ALL non-local -mainly tourist (like us) are always put into the same special room so they can get to our money/belongings easier. Think of it as the same trick magicians use to make things "disappear".
All the locals get to use the regular rooms.
PT
[QUOTE=Wendella]It'd be interesting to try to think of a way to put one over on these guys -- nothing too serious, but just something that sends the message. Maybe wrap something up in your pocket that has a gob of Krazy Glue in it or something. Or maybe something more harmless than that (and therefore less dangerous for you), since I wouldn't be surprised at all if your head would run into a pipe on the way out of the room. That's what these guys are like, though. There were some reports here awhile back of a guy getting attacked with pipes in one place for arguing over being ripped off (that report got deleted for breaking a forum rule regarding grammar and vocab).
So maybe a cigarette lighter with a remote control bomb in it. Yeah, that would do it. ;-)[/QUOTE]
It's a nice thought but anything above that is just trouble. I met that monger you are referring to (Name was Pirate, nice guy and very honest and willing to help everyone almost everywhere he went but was run off the forum by all the stiffs here not looking at the great information he provided but by his style of writing.-too bad as I actually liked his posts and his wacky Pirate of the Caribbean style and grammar.) On one of his great post, He had simply complained about having things stolen at one of these brothels and was immediately confronted by several thugs with knives and pipes at the door. He kept calm and was allowed to leave -minus his money but kept his life. Like most brothels around the world, they are usually protected by some local mafia and police (via payoffs). In Cambo, some of the brothels are even owned by the police (one of the bartenders told me this in PP).
Bottom line, I just pay a few extra bucks and enjoy a better and safer experience away from the St 63 brothels (if anyone reads back, there is almost Never a monger that reported good service at any 63 borthel)---IMO.
PT
The other reason why they're just not worth it is because the quality of girls is just not up to par. I have never seen anything remarkable in any of those places, ever, and I have checked out probably most of the ones over there. Maybe others' experience differs, but I would say you are near certain to find better at almost any other venue. Potential risk high, potential reward low. Anything that sounds too good to be true...
Yes, here's one to the Pirate, may he fare well as he sails upon distant seas. Aargh.
We went to Street 63 with our Moto Driver and he even warned us to be careful with our belongings! There is a group of places in 63 in a very close proximity to each other and we did go in their one day but the service was terrible (quite good looking girls though). I think this particular grouping of brothels would be the ones that rip you off. There is one place on its own right at the other end of street 63 and that place for sure is fine and you can see the difference in attitude immediatley... I was with my freind (both took girls, seperate rooms obviously), I put my wallet in my shorts pocket and then bundled up my shorts and put them right next to my hand by the pillow...I used the street 63 brothels probably 6 times in 3 days and never any problem or feeling that there may be a problem... I payed $15 a pop for the girls and maybe that is part of the reason I didnt feel there were any problems..if you insist on haggling like crazy and getting it for $5 then maybe they feel they need to get their money one way or the other!!! I really believe you need to be careful with haggling too much in Asia, you can just end up making your life difficult...normally if everyone is happy then things go smoothly, if someone feels hard done by then problems occur....$15 is 500THB, they could charge me $20 and I would pay no problem if it means no hassles...I really like the brothels in St 63 and it always forms an integral part of any trip to Phnom Penh...best off though avoiding that group of 3 or 4 brothels that are in close proximity (I reckon you can tell immediately that they could be troublesome).
[QUOTE=Poturu]Hello a friend of mine travel a lot and he has just told me Cambodia and Vietnam are the best countries for mongering and fucking. I mean fucking with passion, I don't like mechanical sex of Pattaya. I don't know Cambodia or Vietnam, could you tell me if where it is easier to fuck regular girls? I need to know a country very easy to fuck regular girls and cheap.
I thank you[/QUOTE]
I've had great sex with girls in Pattaya and Bangkok. I'm in Pattaya right now that I think of it. This trip is about 50/50 as far as getting an enthusiastic girl.
I like the way some of the young, 20 year old, innocent looking girls with firm bodies look, but they tend to be shy or not experiened to do anything but let you screw them how you want to if you are lucky. I've had some cute girls saying they were from Isan, they looked good and were nice, but they wouldn't give any BJ and I pretty much had to do all the work except for maybe them on top a couple minutes. If A girl looks happy in the bar and seems to truelly like you, you will most likely have a great time. I agre with others that Vietnam is not a great place to monger. I'll be in Cambodia tomorrow, so I'll see how that goes. From what I heard Indonesian girls really love to have sex. I never been there, but I had a good time with a couple of them in Singapore.
I arrived in PP on the 21st November. I did not know this at the time but the "festival of life" or water festival starts on the 23rd Nov. I had two days before the mayhem started!
I stay at Flamingos Hotel on 170 x 51 Street $25 pn.
It is a clean and tidy hotel with in room safes now, as well as Cable TV, Air con, on-suite with hot water, fan and fridge. Completely girl friendly!
As a general rule I start of at Walkabouts! Which is just over the road from Flamingo hotel? This place is always good to kill a couple of hours. There can be anything from 3 to 15 FL girls in there; in general the rate is $10 ST & $20LT. Best always to tell them what you are going to pay. If you ask they will know you are a newbie, and then silly talk starts like $30ST.
I wanted to hit Sharkys and the bars on 104 Street as these would be harder to get to when the "Water Festival" really kicks in.
In Sharky’s I meet a English guy who was new to PP we had some drinks and I played pool with a couple of FL girls. They told me that Sharky’s has a room that can be rented for $3 and the girls wanted $10 ST. Did not see the room or take the girls, but can anyone confirm this.
Next off I wanted to go to 104 Street, I asked the English guy if he wanted to come and he said yes.
I had booked the tuk tuk for the night ($8), so we jumped in and off we go. It was lucky we made it on first night as never got a chance to get there again because of the traffic.
My remaining days were spent between Walkabouts, martinis, sharkys, Chillys. Here are Just a few of the girls I had in PP!
Hi All,
When I was in PP last (late 2006) I visited Street 63 on a couple of occaisions. Service and choice was average at best with both places I visited $10 short time inc BBBJ. Service mechanical at best although nothing stolen (I was careful). Good for a quick day time fix but nothing else.
Personally I prefer FL girls/girls at hostess bars e. g. Rose, shanghai, sharkeys etc. The advantage I feel is that you can chat for a while/build rapport, and fine tune the points of the contract that you intend to enter into e. G. BBBJ, anal, photos etc. Furthermore, these establishments allow one the opportunity to meet, exchange infomation, and have a beer with those with similar intentions for being there.
Although in the past I have been very happy with the FL/hostess bar scene-$20 LT, after reading through the last couple of pages I might try out the KTV scene just for the experience when I am in PP in Feb. Thanks for the advice re KTV joints for those that posted earlier. Although because $50-$100 sounds a little excessive (considering I believe that some real gems can be found at FL/hostess bars in PP for $20LT), and the fact that karaoke sucks arse, I am sure my experience with KTV's will be fleeting. However, you can't knock it until you try it.
Just read some PP reports on another site. General theme indicated concerns re mongering in PP over the last 12 mths. One report noted that it was now normal to pay $20-25 ST/$40 LT at many FL bars such as Martini. Personally I can't see how prices could have risen so much since I was last in PP and this trend, as far as I can tell is not supported in the ISG forum. However, can anyone please confirm/deny based on recent adventures?
Finally, a good alternative to hiring a driver for $30 per day is to employ the services of a moto driver $8-10 per day. It pays to employ one that hangs around a well known/established bar or hotel (eg Shanghai bar or flamingo hotel) as they would be aware that they could be tracked down if the need arose. Prior to agreeing to anything ensure they have a decent handle of the English language, they have a good understanding of the layout and bar scene of PP, and that you are clear about the fee.
Thanks in advance
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[QUOTE=Robarts]Hi All,
Just read some PP reports on another site. General theme indicated concerns re mongering in PP over the last 12 mths. One report noted that it was now normal to pay $20-25 ST/$40 LT at many FL bars such as Martini. Personally I can't see how prices could have risen so much since I was last in PP and this trend, as far as I can tell is not supported in the ISG forum. However, can anyone please confirm/deny based on recent adventures?[/QUOTE]Hah! Lies! It is NOT normal to pay $20-25 ST/$40 LT. However it IS normal for the girls to ask for it. Way too many people with money to throw away are paying it.
I'll be back in Feb. Hell. My Chinese/khmer friends still think I'm fucking out of my mind when I pay $15 for good service ST. Nothing I guess anyone can do about it though. Noobs will always pay noob prices. As the guys with money to throw around will come here to learn the ways of mongering then push prices up for the people that showed them the way.
Last night I visited Cyrcee for first time. Picked up a good one Seradee not sure of spelling but thats what it sounds like. She says 22 but who can tell she was very short. She will do anything. I had her all night for $30 plus $7 bar fine. It was certainly worth it. Very cooperative. Since my other bar excursions have been more expensive this was a welcome change. Im a great believer you get what you pay for. Sure you can get $20 all night but what quality? Seradee was good value. Anyone care to comment on the short girls in PP. When very short (4'6"") I always equated that to age but tell me if Im wrong. When Seradee came she was super juicy.... white all over the place. Her English is good enough. She would be 7 on looks and body. Also visited yesterday the massage center in hotel next to Walkabout. Not many good quality girls and none speak English. Settled in the end for $4 massage and $20 fuck which lasted one hour. Looks and body about 6. Few young girls.
Dont know if this is appropriate and in line with ISG rules. I cut and pasted the info below from another forum. I can recall some ISG members enquiring about floating restaurants in PP so thought I would add it here. Report was dated early last year.
"Taxi drivers will offer to take you to the "floating restaurants" at the other side of the river over the bridge. There are several restaurants over what was once water. The water has now far receded and the place is not that nice at all. The food is expensive and horrible. After lunch you have the option to take the waitress to one of the rooms and fuck her for US$10. Since I was there, and it was only 2 PM, I had to try. It was my worst fuck in Cambodia. My advise, avoid the floating restaurants and don't waste your time".
Can anyone recommend a pharmacy in central Phnom Penh that has a reputation for carrying only real drugs, no fakes?
I say that because I'm in Saigon now where there is one pharmacy (My Chau on Hai Ba Trung street) that's always recommended by doctors in western clinics, and lots and lots of them that will sell you anything.
[QUOTE=Wendella]Can anyone recommend a pharmacy in central Phnom Penh that has a reputation for carrying only real drugs, no fakes? [/QUOTE]
Try Pharmacie Socheat at #50 Street 136. Its a 30 second walk from Central Market. Check out my previous post at:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491051&postcount=1214[/url]
I have bought generic Cialis, Roche-branded Valium, antibiotics, etc. from them. Always good stuff, but check the expiration dates just to make sure. My mate picked me up a stash of generic C when he went there last and gave it to me when we met up in Manila. Keeps my pecker full of wood when I need it. Good luck, AsianRain
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Try Pharmacie Socheat at #50 Street 136. Its a 30 second walk from Central Market. [/QUOTE]
Many thanks. Will check it out.
Managed to spend a few days in Phnom Penh and Sihanoukville recently. Nice to get away from the hustle and bustle of Saigon.
Phnom Penh
I stayed at the Phnom Penh hotel, which was excellent and like most hotels in the city is very girl friendly [didn’t phone up as girl was leaving as they had done on previous visits]. Room on the 4th floor was very nice and club privileges good. Girls were very impressed with rooms especially the space age bathroom.
First night traveled round a few bars: Sharkey’s –one beer only. I don’t mind the place but just not into it that night and my previous FL’S from there have been disappointing. Next onto 104 Street to watch footy at the Parrot, which was ok but I think essentially it’s a sort of expat bar. Moved next door to Rosie’s which was very busy and the girls were certainly having a good time, bought a few lady drinks for a girl behind the bar but decided to move on to Martinees. I like this place and have had some good luck in the past but some of what was on offer was not of the highest quality to say the least. Approached by quite a few but clicked with a lass called Da[ khymer] who was around a 7 in looks and turned out to be really sweet. Back in the room she was good, but BJ poor. After a session in the morning she was off and I think if I was staying a bit longer I would have tried her again.
Second day bought DVD’S and lunch at The Rising Sun [excellent food]. Went out late that night and revisited Rosie’s and chatted to a couple of the girls and shared drinks for about an hour but was due to meet friends at Zanzibar across the road. Definitely my favourite bar – it was really good fun with the girls dancing on the bar. A few shots were downed and I took a fancy to one of girls dancing, it was only when she got down I realized she was really small less that 5 feet. Anyway barfined her [can’t remember her name but you can’t miss her ] and apart from being scared of the lift, she was bloody great and a great little fuck and very energetic. If I get back soon, she would definitely be worth looking up again. No BJ offered but the rest made up for that – a real load of fun in a little package.
Phnom Penh has changed a little since I was last there but is still a great place for a bit of fun. Prices for the girls seem to have risen a little, 25LT Martinees and 30 LT at Zanzibar, one mate was asked for 40USD at one of the hostess bars!
[QUOTE=Wendella]Can anyone recommend a pharmacy in central Phnom Penh that has a reputation for carrying only real drugs, no fakes?
I say that because I'm in Saigon now where there is one pharmacy (My Chau on Hai Ba Trung street) that's always recommended by doctors in western clinics, and lots and lots of them that will sell you anything.[/QUOTE]Wendella,
This post may be in HCMC thread, but some may find it useful if coming to HCMC...
I have been to My Chau on Hai Ba Trung as I was recommended. I went there not for enhancers, but other medications I need. But there were so many people when I went there, and not a VN speaker, it could not put a word in. So I gave up.
Have you actaully bought V or C or generics there? If you have, how much did you pay?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]Try Pharmacie Socheat at #50 Street 136. Its a 30 second walk from Central Market. Check out my previous post at:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491051&postcount=1214[/url]
I have bought generic Cialis, Roche-branded Valium, antibiotics, etc. from them. Always good stuff, but check the expiration dates just to make sure. My mate picked me up a stash of generic C when he went there last and gave it to me when we met up in Manila. Keeps my pecker full of wood when I need it. Good luck, AsianRain[/QUOTE]
If you ask me, the "generic Cialis" at $ 3.50 for 4 pills, is simply a fake. Compare the box with the originals with the holographic logos. The packing sheet, the color of the pills are different. Above all, the effect was zero in my case. I threw the remaining tablets away.
I was in one of the 63 st brothels today. Met a Khmer guy, who was most likely a moto driver. He told me that the prices of the girls are $3 to $5. Probably the $5 girls are the cute ones. However it appears that the falang price is $10, and this is what I have paid every time in 5 different brothels in this area.
Good luck getting the local price. If you are a hard-assed bargainer it might work for you. There seems to be a fair bit of tourist traffic through these brothels so I am led to believe that the people running the brothels will be all working together to extract the falang price from the tourist mongerer.
[QUOTE=Franga]I was in one of the 63 st brothels today. Met a Khmer guy, who was most likely a moto driver. He told me that the prices of the girls are $3 to $5. Probably the $5 girls are the cute ones. However it appears that the falang price is $10, and this is what I have paid every time in 5 different brothels in this area.
Good luck getting the local price. If you are a hard-assed bargainer it might work for you. There seems to be a fair bit of tourist traffic through these brothels so I am led to believe that the people running the brothels will be all working together to extract the falang price from the tourist mongerer.[/QUOTE]
If moto tells you $3, then this is only a price a local Cambo will get (local pay about $2-3 on avg). $5 can be had only at some places and only with certain gals within the place and only after a bit of haggling and sometimes only if you are a repeat customer. But since you are referring to St 63 brothels, bottom line is don't bother wasting any money feeding those stealing bastards, best to put them out of business than giving them your business-IMO
PT
You guys are such tight areses. I appreciate that the PT knows Cambodia well, but actually he doesnt.
Inflation is rampant here and one can't expect to pay the price that motos pay. These poor buggers make a few dollars a day and we make hundreds-get real here.
Cambodia is still great value, but why do people still go to the old haunts like Walkabou, Sharkey and Martini?
Pay a bit more and meet fine young women at 136 street, 104 street etc etc. Learning a little of the language makes a huge difference, ask any resident. Don't be a typical dickhead tourist and expand your horizons-there are beautiful women available everywhere.
Today I went off for the usual bang at the 63 st brothels. Funny thing was that they wouldn't let me into 4 of the brothels that I tried.
I am being led to believe that I am being blacklisted, possibly because the pimps realise that it is not possible to steal from me (because I am ultracautious with my gear) while I am doing the deed in the room.
When I asked why at one place the guy said ""$15 massage boom boom", even though last time I was there they let me in for $10usd.
At least the brothels in 154st still let me in!
[QUOTE=Prince Harry]These poor buggers make a few dollars a day and we make hundreds-get real here.
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I think, perhaps, Prince Harry, that you overestimate the affluence of the membership here.
Several days ago, the BANGKOK POST carried a short report about a foriegn (western) Phnom Penh bar owner who, along with his Cambodian GF (also business partner) was sentenced to eight years in prison for requiring his "waitresses" to have sex with customers in upstairs rooms over the bar.
The report made no mention of the bars name. This certainly describes a number of well known P.P. venues but I have seen no reports of any of these establishments being closed. Does anybody know who the owner was and which bar???
[QUOTE=Mai Yao]Several days ago, the BANGKOK POST carried a short report about a foriegn (western) Phnom Penh bar owner who, along with his Cambodian GF (also business partner) was sentenced to eight years in prison for requiring his "waitresses" to have sex with customers in upstairs rooms over the bar.
The report made no mention of the bars name. This certainly describes a number of well known P.P. venues but I have seen no reports of any of these establishments being closed. Does anybody know who the owner was and which bar???[/QUOTE]The bar they mentioned was called APOCALYPSE NOW and was managed by a Frenchman, along with his khmer girlfriend. The last news concern the appeal trial as the first judgment was given in december of 2006.
must have just not paid enough to the POLICE - it's virtually a condition of employment - "Go upstairs with customers"; "Go out with customers".
Went out for a look around with my fat friend last night,I don't get out much any more.
We started at the khmer beer garden on 172 which had warm beer and ten khmer singers,not a great start to the night.
We then strolled down to the shanghai where I had been told there had been a huge staff turnover,again.This would have been due to the fact that they had too many beautiful girls who would not go with customers,again.
Not a problem for residents who could use it as a local and cultivate girls over time,but no good for those who blow through(so to speak).
I was told that they had been recruiting at Martini!
Well the story was true,oh my god it was awful.
Instead of the bar being lined with beauties,it was lined with horrors apart from a few of the old guard-STAY AWAY.
Next we ambled down to 154 where my fat friend had been propositioned by a spruiker earler in the night.Sure enough the same chap ushered us into one of those little karaoke joints where a group of disinterested young girls sat.
There were also several young khmer men inside who may have been the boyfriends-not a great look.
Anyway we were offered girls for ten dollar which is a surprisingly cheap openning price for what appeared to be a couple of tourists.
This scene not being our cup of tea we decided to walk over to the lady boy bar on 19 behind the palace,whilst over there we had a look at the opulent new boutique hotel,the pavilion-WOW.
The lady boy bar is a large disco/night club which has a stage and a floor show but it was completely deserted at 9 o clock-must come back at midnight another night.
Into the tuk and off to the usual haunts,mikado and cyrcee,the tuk of course had no idea where to go and blundered off towards the riverside.Don't all tourists want to go to the riverside-well actually you dickhead-NO.
Le cyrcee had fewer girls than usual due to a birthday party and several barang but it still had it's share of stars.
My mate who is a regular pointed out three lovely girls,two of them vietnamese who have star quality-one lithe stunner in short shorts and a smaller top he claims she gives one of the best blow jobs in the world!
But were we distracted-not your intrepid reporter,one campari and we strolled up to the mikado along the newly sealed road.
Yes,for all you old hands,phnom penh is changing,they have tar sealed 49!
No more potholes that would swallow a small sedan,no more jumping over huge puddles in a wet season downpour,no more wet feet on the way to the short time hotel across the road.
Mikado had a reasonable number of girls and only one barang so we sipped campari and played with breasts and genitalia.My mate couldn't help himself and went upstairs briefly-still 15 bucks but he got a dud.
I made a date to return to my little companion who promised a superior yum yum including CIM.
I have promised my american friend who has been here for yonks but never visited the holy grails of cyrcee and mikado that we shall visit next week and I can then post a report with some actual action not empty rhetoric.
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Hello
I am going to PP in late Mars.
I want to try groupmongering, but i dont want to try it with other ISG members.
I am thinking of "picking up" --if you can say so, 1-2 local cambodiaguys (not gay) and then let them help me to find one or 2 girls willing to do several guys, photo is a must !
Advices are velcome !
BL
[QUOTE=Mai Yao]The report made no mention of the bars name. This certainly describes a number of well known P.P. venues but I have seen no reports of any of these establishments being closed. Does anybody know who the owner was and which bar???[/QUOTE]I don't know if this a reliable source:
[url]http://www.adetocqueville.com/200801150528.m0f5suh26614.htm[/url]
Me and a fellow mongerer I met a couple months ago met up again and went from Thailand to PP for one night, then went to Siem Reap for 2 nights and then back to PP for one more night before heading back to Bangkok.
We made the trip to Cambodia with little planning so we didn't know what to really expect.
We only had one night so we wanted to check out as many places as we could. Stayed at the Cara hotel, it is a pretty nice place and didn't mind letting my buddy take a girl to his room overnight. I think her name was Aren or Alen or something, more on that later.
First we walked around and didn't know where to walk to, so we finally agreed to pay a tuk tuk about $3 an hour. I had made a list of places to go from info I found here on the forums. First place we went to was Mikado's. Well we were the only 2 guys there and we were both swarmed with about 6 girls each. I was suprised none of them asked us to buy them drinks. Anyways it was fun being groped, fed peanuts and girls sitting on my lap feeding me and feeling me up and getting all mushy. They kept saying let's go up stairs and I said how much. They said $15 short time... that kind of blew my mind. I was paying much more in Thailand which I know is cheap in the first place. They offered LT for $30. They suggested I take 2 or 3 girls if I want. My buddy wanted one of my girls versus his girls, so I let him choose the one he wanted and I took 2 girls for my self. I noticed that it seems like most working girls in Cambodia have a baby already, didn't bother me though, the girls pretty much only took turns on me versus both all over me like I wish they would have been, but it was a good time and they did not rush at all. OK, had a good time and left to find more places, we asked the bartender, who was probably the owner where Cyrcee's was, he was nice enough to tell us it was right down the road.
We walked to Cyrcee's and pretty much the same seen as Mikado's, I think the owner was French or something, nice guy though. I saw quite a few cuties in there, but we had just finished with girls in Mikado's so we had no interest in taking girls upstairs for boom boom. It was tempting to try because I saw a few I really liked. Some of the girls in there seemed kind of young though, maybe borderline 18. And it seems like when you ask most ladies in Cambodia how old they are, the answer is 20. Anyways the girls started out sweet then got sour after awhile since we showed no interest in taking them for boom boom. An interesting thing happened, about 6 Japanese guys walked in, and walked straight up stairs with girls going with them. Me and my buddy were wondering what just happened. Then a minute later they all come downstairs and the guys leave. I guess they had no clue about what was going on. Anyways left and went to Martini's.
Got to Martini's and found it quite a change of pace. We got swarmed as soon as we got there. I couldn't figure out why some guys get left a lone and we are targets of the ladies desires..haha Anyways had Cambodian girls and Viet girls, we just wanted to check it out, not take any girls. After some Cambodian girls spent time with us, we decided it was time to leave, well momasan said we had to give the girls a couple bucks since they spent time with us.. we were thinking crap!! Well we gave them 1 dollar each and left, they didn't seem happy, but me and my friend didn't mind losing a buck.
Next place was Sharkey's. Nice sports bar kind of place. Had some food, flirted with the girls behind the counter, then some girls asked us to play pool, so decided to go a head and play. They seem to play by the same rules they play with in Thailand. Anyways had various girls looking at me as if I could go get them if I wanted to, but.. I had no power, especially after being in Thailand for awhile already. When it came to closing time 2AM I think, one of the girls, who I later found out has someone that I think is a twin sister, asked me to go to a disco with her, and she could show me around PP. I asked my friend if he wanted to go, but he took an offer from a girl named Aren, or was it Alen. He just wanted to go back to the hotel, so I went back to the hotel too, without a lady for myself. I later found out she has a hot sister, which I took on out last night in PP, that will be in a different report.
Oh...my friend didn't talk money with the girl, he just gave her $20 in the morning and she didn't complain and didn't seem to look to see what he gave her, he ended up getting her number for our final night in PP.
Overall a good time in PP, the front desk arranged a taxi for us to go to Siem Reap for an agreed price of $55. We didn't mind paying since we had such a short time in Cambodia. If you ask around most guys will want more than $100 to take you there.. You can take a bus for $10 or less, but if you try to book late at night, it might be full for the next day as it was in our case.
[QUOTE=Gagoo]
Overall a good time in PP, the front desk arranged a taxi for us to go to Siem Reap for an agreed price of $55. We didn't mind paying since we had such a short time in Cambodia. If you ask around most guys will want more than $100 to take you there.. You can take a bus for $10 or less, but if you try to book late at night, it might be full for the next day as it was in our case.
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Hi Gagoo
Nice report and thank you for sharing.
Can you please advise how many hours was your drive to Siem Reap and drivers info maybe?
Thanks
The mosquitos looked awful at the airport a few weeks ago. As they swarmed the outside ceiling lights I was reminded of the machines entering the loading dock of Zion in The Matrix trilogy. Of course they were inside the nearby restaurants area and the airport bath- room as well.
[QUOTE=Mart Cham]The bar they mentioned was called APOCALYPSE NOW and was managed by a Frenchman, along with his khmer girlfriend. The last news concern the appeal trial as the first judgment was given in december of 2006.[/QUOTE]
Owner is 'Bruno'....
Now that would be a sight to see!!! LOL
[QUOTE=PinkPearl]The mosquitos looked awful at the airport a few weeks ago. As they swarmed the outside ceiling lights I was reminded of the machines entering the loading dock of Zion in The Matrix trilogy. Of course they were inside the nearby restaurants area and the airport bath- room as well.[/QUOTE]
Brothel in Phnompen especially at the places where it looks like a shop house with part of the door is close is stealing your money. Boom boom cost at this place will cost you around 15 to 20 usd.
We initially did not realise this and thought that we have overspend it some where else. So we put a trap and really count our money before going for a boom boom. True enought, whey you are scre*** the girl or when the girl give you a massage ( with you head down facing the pillow ), someone from outside will open the door and will go thru you wallet. They will always leave some money behind in order for you not to be suspicious.
So guys - be extra carefull when you doing your bussiness at this brothel. You have been warned. It is safe to bring just enought money for the tuk tuk + boom boom and return. Or hold to your money in your hand while your boom boom the girl.
[quote=jeff7669]so guys - be extra carefull when you doing your bussiness at this brothel. you have been warned. it is safe to bring just enought money for the tuk tuk + boom boom and return. or hold to your money in your hand while your boom boom the girl.[/quote]in places of high corruption it's always better to be safe than sorry.
it's one reason i pack light and am ready to move with my 1 duffel luggage. case in point, there was this one time i took a khmer girl from sharky's back to the room and she seemed nice although she refused bj and then when leaving i gave her $10. she insisted that short-time was $20 and i told her it was $10. she then proceeded to tell me how i gave her friend $20. i replied with the fact that her friend did yum-yum and also let me take pictures (which this girl refused). after another futile attempt she realized i'm a pro too so she made a face and left but i noticed that when outside my room she looked up at my room number for a few seconds before she left.
i sighed and just packed my bag and moved to another nearby hotel. no use griping about shit like this. just consider it common sense.
although most times things are fine. there may be that one time you take a chick to your room and she later comes with the cops and has your ass arrested and claims [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] (or she may have lied about her age) so you have to pay $2000 in bribe money which goes to her, the cops (who are in on the whole thing) and possibly a judge. this has happened and still happens.
no need to be phobic paranoid but just have some common street sense and stay safe. tourists are considered pinatas. better to be hit for $10-20 than hit for $1000-2000.
lesson on cambodian police. it a purchased position so they ave to pay a few hundred to a few thousand dollars to get the job. they are paid like $50 a month. so how do they make money? . they stop people on the street to claim violations and fine them. $. wealthy khmer pay (bribe) cops to do muscle work for them which at times is throwing people off their farm and claiming it as their own (land-grabbing). $$. someone wants to report a crime. they have to pay the cops to look into it. $. by some grace of god they catch someone they think is the culprit. the accused's family pays (bribes) the cops to let him go $$$.
i don't really use the word bribe since i have to wonder can you call it a bribe if it's part of their standard method of salary?
with all this said. the khmer people are generally good people and i have several very good khmer friends. its the officials that are the corrupt ones unfortunately.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Owner is 'Bruno'....[/QUOTE]
Don't you mean "Owner was Bruno". LOL
Apocolypse Now is surely confined to the film version forever more!
[QUOTE=Matt Navan Man]Don't you mean "Owner was Bruno". LOL
Apocolypse Now is surely confined to the film version forever more![/QUOTE]
He he....having lunch w/ one of the owners of Sharkey next week and will ask him for the real story - Bruno probably forgot to make his monthly 'donation'.
[QUOTE=Mart Cham]The bar they mentioned was called APOCALYPSE NOW and was managed by a Frenchman, along with his khmer girlfriend. The last news concern the appeal trial as the first judgment was given in december of 2006.[/QUOTE]I thought APOCALYPSE NOW was in HCM? There was one in PP, too?
Giotto
My 2nd trip to Cambodia but 1st to PP. I'm not that much of a bar monger. I much prefer the AMP scene. Similar to SR, there are many AMPs in PP that do not offer even HJ. Very much different from BKK. I was staying at the Bougainvilla Hotel. I would definitely not recommend. Very unfriendly, poor service and at a higher rate. Room was nice, however, but constant construction noise. Personally, I think PP is a shithole and I would not return. Touts everywhere, you can't walk a few feet without somebody hitting on you for something. Over crowded and traffic that is as close to anarchy as you can get. I thought the traffic in China was bad but it's pretty tame compared to PP. I chose my hotel because it was on the river and I was taking a boat the next day. I've stayed in many places around the world many of which are 3rd world, but I have to say PP is probably the worst place I've encountered.
phnom penh cambodia 2008. (classified secret information! )
- for sex-tourists.
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1. / general
one long time classic in sex-tourist circles, phnom penh the capital of cbs "cambodia beggar state" is always sure to please. it has everything: short time joints, dirt shit, gore. whatever you want. it is overwhelming, noisy, arrogant but never boring. guaranteed! i personally found out in a unique way on this trip. apart from the sex there is not much to do, except maybe strolling around town and trying to avoid the hateful motos. at the end of the day, trying to wash off all the dirt, crap and shit from your clothes and feet will also fill a fair amount of time.
the "beggar state of cambodia" is geographically well blessed and visually pleasing. it has a blossoming tourist industry, well based on "dead rocks and dead bones", apart from the lucrative trade of living female flesh. it's only problem is that it is inhabited by cambodians who when not busy annoying tourists, enjoy robbing each other silly and littering dirt around. don't blame me, this is what i observed. tell us if it isn't so and why not. however, apart from these negatives, the sex is good. all you need to do is avoid the cambodians and concentrate on the guest vietnamese workers. are they pretty! and they have culture too.
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2. / travel
arriving at phnom penh airport, you can purchase cambodian tourist visas for the prescribed $20 fee. there is a slow moving queue but few hassles. the airport now has a tourist bus that runs to downtown. apart from that a moto costs $2-3, and a taxi $7. arriving by land, the town has several bus transport companies, each one with it's own terminal. luckily, most (but not all) are found around the central market (psar tmey).
here moto taxi drivers will throng you, but a fare to one of the many hotels nearby shouldn't be more than 50c or so (2000 riels). there is also one daily boat arriving from siem reap (angkor ruined tourist gimmick town). for connections to battambang and thailand, see separate recent postings in "other areas" chapter.
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3. / accomodation, food, money, etc
official currency is the cambodian riel. closely fixed to the usd, around the rate of $1=4000riel. however, usd notes are generally accepted everywhere, even by beggars. (they prefer the larger notes). beggars also take large usd notes with small tears in them, however other shops do not. so it is worth to examine your change. changing money is easy, either at market money changers, jewellery shops, minimarts and many other places. phnom penh is overwhelmed by accomodotation choices.
a basic fan room starts from $5 and a simple but comfortable aircon from $15. looking around the central market area is a good start. especially streets #118, 130, 136 etc. yes, most streets are numbered so easy to handle by the mathematically minded. a few of them have names also. many khmer restaurants do not have english menus and do not welcome foreigners, unless they speak khmer. this limits your choices in terms of price, as tourist restaurants charge 2-3 times as much for exactly the same dishes. still, it's reasonably inexpensive to dine well. about $5-8 for a dinner with one drink, per person. the central sorya shopping center has an inexpensive foodhall and psar olympic has many cheap noodleshops in the evenings.
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4. / entertainment and sex venues in phnom penh
this used to be much better years ago. phnom penh's famous sophie club bj joint seem to have closed down recently (at least i haven't seen their ads for a while), which is a great loss. what is left is a couple of foreigner oriented st knocking shops, the ever growing multitude of female-chat bars (not recommended) and the traditional khmer/viet brothels. the good old peaceful times of k11 long gone, and now you must be very aware when visiting these. as foreigners seem to be welcome only to the extent of robbing them. haven't heard of anyone getting killed yet, however this might follow sometime. of course, it seems this is the result of pushing the trade underground.
taking it out of the hands of honest businessmen and throwing it to the dogs of maffia. beware, beware, it seems wherever the cops step in, the dirt will just grow uncontrollably. it would be much more sensible to legalize the trade and end the troubles. yes, that does might not fit in with the armed police of course who might suspect their business being cut in effect. what a world this is (and i not only mean cambodia)!
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some lovely sex stories
*** cute viets ***
after settling in to a reasonable room, went to change some thai bath to usd at the markets. luckily i counted it, as got $10 short changed.complained, and received the missing bill, but not even an apology. yes, just a mistake. so far i had lots of favorable experiences at the #63 street area, so went to have a look as the sun set. found one vietnamese brothel quite easily. had been here before but the papasan had changed since. all very pretty young chickens, 18-20yo looking. the deal was $7 for st which is very cheap (about 230 thai bath) and the girls very pretty, though not extremely keen.
i was asked to pay up front which i refused. just paid $2 and said that will give the rest to the girl when finished. service not famous but still good value for the price. walking along further, came across one khmer brothel which i also used to visit years ago. the old boss was great, but again there was a new manager this time. i don't like the kanbo fuckers at all, they give shitty service but as they were all cute i gave in and tried. as the previous pop was a hassle-free one, i sort of relaxed and complied with the request of paying $10 up front. the young girl attractive but rather unfriendly.
*** robber story ***
as i said i was so totally relaxed, i did not care any more and just threw all my belongings on the floor, next to the door. then instead of just playing around a bit, she insisted on giving a massage. sitting on my back. i tried to play with her soft skin behind me but was rebuffed every time. massage was crappy, but she kept it going. for too long. i got bored but was pushed back forcefully every time i attempted to turn. now this made me sort of annoyed and i did eventually turn, just to see the door closing. sound of feet running outside.
*** unbelieving ***
it was so totally unbelievable like a fucking car-accident on a beautiful sunday morning. "this is not real! ". was all i could think. because not being a first-timer but having visited these dirty fuck-joints so many times over the years. without any problems ever and ever! i had read the reports by others but as i never actually experienced anything than honest business, i did not care.
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having just arrived and freshly changed the money, i did not even sort out the bundles. there was quite a bit of money there. usd, thai bath, euros. as i shook her off, my girl made for the door. the towel covering her fell off and she ran naked for her life. i just jumped into my jeans and right after her in hot chase. that big house is like a labyrinth. stairs up and stairs down. of course, chasing her i could not run after the thief, which was already gone anyway. i was just wondering in unbelief: "where is all that money now? " it is not gonna send me broke but still so silly story.
*** big trouble ***
i do not want to hate these people. hate having to hate anyone. so many years and they had been good. i did make up my mind that this story had to be sorted out. right on the spot. the more delay the worse it is. i did make a terrible big scene. shouting and, well other things. my principles tell me that i cannot hit another man. it would feel like hitting my own head to the wall. so, i did not hit men. big-big trouble, the whole place turned upside down. i did not care, was sort of prepared to die (mind pretty clouded with adrenalin). finally one old woman appeared from somewhere and with authoritative voice told me to stop. my wallet would be returned soon.
*** wallet walks back ***
i was sort of unbelieving but did stop raging. she made one call on her mobile. one young khmer boy came with my wallet. mamasan (that old woman) in english, asked me to count it if it was all there. i looked inside. there was some bath, dollars and euros but i didn't actually know how much i had. so, only answered that "i don't know". i got dressed. then remembered my $10 that i paid for the fuck, which was aborted. mama gave that $10 back from her own purse. i handed her $3 and said a vague "thankyoo" for her help. than she examined my injuries (some minor scratches) and said goodbye. i walked out and left that fucking joint.
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*** better than sex ***
i wasn't really devastated. rather felt euphoric. wow, how exciting! it is like the movies, except for real! beats watching bruce willis shooting dead 200 men like himself within 2 hours. back in the hotel i added up the amounts i changed, etc and it seems all i had lost was about $25 + 1000b. amazing! for the price of two cinema tickets plus popcorn, i got all this real excitement. i would do it again. things like this give real spice to your trip.
and really there was no harm done. apart from the approx $55. but that's entertainment money. cheaper than a bad, impersonal fuck in pattaya. or a lot cheaper than the $60 i gave to the doctor to sew my head together in thailand some time before. i did not regret those. why should i regret this one? this one's a winner. try it for yourself! recommended. i marked it on the map below.
*** no harm done ***
on top of that, justice had already been served. i surely had stolen lots of things in my life. from individuals, shops, companies, our government. everyone has. even the cops. it's like the story with wanking. if you say you never, then you are a lier. no one is clean. so, what the fuck can i say? they did the same to me? well done, things put right again.
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- part 2.
*** micado root ***
to be honest this one was the very first of this kind of incident in 10 years of visiting cambodia. it is just losing $5/year. hardly worth the sweat. so, continued walking around the small streets of #154, 136 and side alleys. there are so many chicken shops everywhere. all pretty and inviting. just this language issue is in the way. without communication there is no trust. how can we do business with these khmer gentlemen? eventually made it to the circee/mikado area on #136 street.
sat down at mikado. all kambos here but some attractive. chose a cute young one. fuck, in the room turned out she had a kid. only the face was pretty. but service is still good, and one of the nicest, friendliest khmer females i ever met. we also watched some stupid porn which was something to fill the time after the root. just cuddling up on the bed. $15 total inc room +2 for drink. cheaper and better than pattaya. this was all the action for the first day. needless to say, i had a rotten sleepless night. replaying the events again and again. but still exciting. not ordinary or boring.
my fault, i simply grew careless after so many good times and many years. but good fun, nevertheless.
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next day:
*** barbers love foreigners ***
had to get a haircut (still have a few white strands left around the back). i usually i pay $1 in phnom penh. nowadays however nearly every barber in the central area has added to their list in english: "foreigner $2". what da fuck is that? welcome idiots, we love you? it is not the money but the bad feeling. had to walk far to find one for $1. 25. normal price, only khmer pricelist. as i said, it is not the money.
who will explain to them that you cannot just jack up the price without jacking up the service too. of course they cannot speak english. just point. look, "foreigner $2". excuse me, what if in the us a barbershop would charge $10 for everyone for a haircut, except $20 for khmers? every year the less i like these people. if it wasn't for the beautiful viets, i would never come back.
*** walkabout pick-up bar ***
after this sat down at the famous walkabout hotel. price of draft beer used to be an easy $1. now 1. 25. this place is real easy to find. right next to the "chip lay hotel" (really! ) which is across the road from "girl style" beautysalon. early afternoon, various quality of women. as expected, the men actually talk to them here as equals. one spoiled young khmer female comes over and offers a "short-time" for $20. plus she seems to expect me to court her too.
yes girl, move on. to your boyfriend who spoiled you. last time i paid $6 here for st. a year or two ago. another older viet woman is much nicer, real friendly. at her age must be. one joy is that age humbles all women. but i really did not come to kanbo and put up with all the shit, just to root oldies.
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*** language mix-ups ***
in the evening went back to the #63 street viet chicken-shop again. same deal $7. papasan is nice but the girls complain. no wanna root farang. what the fuck is this? papa shouts with the girl so she finally gives in. average service. but "cheap lay".so to speak. i only come back for the papasan. he is a nice guy. speaks a bit of english too. i am rather careful to choose, as some seem a bit young. not because i give a shit. just hate troubles. let's follow our laws and stay away from hungry dogs.
after finishing round one, we come down and i ask papa for one more, a real 19 year old. not younger! saying in khmer: "ayoo dop bram boon". papa seems to misunderstand and says "dop boon? " (meaning 14 year old). "sure will be here soon. " and makes one quick call on his handphone. fuck, i am frustrated with all this language barriers. my nice papa is gonna lay me now with a 14 yo? no way! i apologise and sneak out in a hurry, as fast as i can. who wants the shit. too old for this.
*** circee, in undies ***
i aim for the "circee bar" instead. the place has it's ups and downs but presently quite well supplied with beauties. and attitudes are good. i ask for a viet chick. they have two. they come around to sit in my lap. i check, now they have to wear undies in the bar. that's disguisting. last year they were nude under. but i see one khmer, more pretty than these two. lovely sweet young face. nice personality too. i send away the viets and chat with this one a bit. i take my chances and pay for this kanbo chick.
*** hot kanbo sperm-eater ***
turns out to be a knockout. horny as it gets. as we get into the room just pull each others clothes off and mouths are busy with cock and pussy. we didn't even wash at this stage. one nice fun splash follows in the shower with the cat. i like her playfulness. hardly 19 yet. very good hot fuck follows. as hot as an old ugly, hairy geriatric ever likely to get. surely she was a good choice. still cheap, $4 room, $15 girl and $2 drink. just 700 baht. i ask "sperm on face okay? ". she says "sure" and takes position lying on her back. sticky, smelly gunk flows all over her lovely mouth and neck. what a nice girl.
does everything to please old idiots. this place is good. the best in whole phnom penh. it has class. the boss must be a real genious. there should be so many more like it. but instead it's all just "chat-bars" that open. men are afraid of women. afraid of sex. so, they chat instead. and get mentally damaged in the process. isn't it much nicer to fuck first, and chat later. just a little bit.
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after circee i peep into a few "chat-bars" around st#118, 108, 94, etc. but it's scary. like most of us here on this forum, i never actually had a gf in my long life. we don't know what to chat with them. that's why we are sex-tourists! we prefer to root first and chat after. a little chat only. so, we can keep our sanity. women cannot say anything meaningful anyway. that's why they paint their faces instead. so, we talk with them. otherwise w/o tits and paint they would be just ignored. tell me if it isn't so, but that's what i have observed in the world.
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[QUOTE=Jeff7669]Brothel in Phnompen especially at the places where it looks like a shop house with part of the door is close is stealing your money. Boom boom cost at this place will cost you around 15 to 20 usd.
We initially did not realise this and thought that we have overspend it some where else. So we put a trap and really count our money before going for a boom boom. True enought, whey you are scre*** the girl or when the girl give you a massage ( with you head down facing the pillow ), someone from outside will open the door and will go thru you wallet. They will always leave some money behind in order for you not to be suspicious.
So guys - be extra carefull when you doing your bussiness at this brothel. You have been warned. It is safe to bring just enought money for the tuk tuk + boom boom and return. Or hold to your money in your hand while your boom boom the girl.[/QUOTE]
Since you didn't name the location you visited, I assume you had the St 63 brothel experience. If that is the case then you have not read back on the many older posts that warn of such thefts (many of those warnings were from me by the way).
Also the normal prices for St 63 houses are $10 (and under), not the $15-20 you had mentioned as these are the starting prices are for the more honest places in PP.
PT
[QUOTE=El Greco]Hi Gagoo
Nice report and thank you for sharing.
Can you please advise how many hours was your drive to Siem Reap and drivers info maybe?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
The first taxi was a little slow and cautious, it took him about 4 hours and 40 minutes. I had a feeling a taxi could do it in 4 hours. On the way back we had to negociate a taxi for $55 also, even though it was harder to find one for that price. The driver only took 4 hours flat and that was with a 10 minute stop. It seems like they aren't actually taxi's as in a business, just people using their cars or someone elses car to make a little money.
If it was just me I would have just taken the $10 bus, but I think that takes 5-6 hours. We looked in to the bus when we arrived in PP, but the morning one was full, they only had open seats on the afternoon one, but I didn't want to waste the whole day away on a bus.
I didn't take down any info about the drivers. I think any front desk, knows someone who will take you there for that price. The guy at Cara hotel said no problem when we asked him, so he has a friend or family member take you or something. The owner of the Golden Orange in Siem Reap was also able to find someone for the $55. He tried to change it to $60 when we got in, but my friend was firm on telling him $55, so we had no problems when we paid him. We didn't give any tip, we probably would have gave him $5 if he didn't try to change the price on us.
Thanks Asshole. That was a great report. I obviously don't have your cojones. I guess I'm just getting too old for all the hassle. Again, interesting report and it expresses my thoughts exactly. You just put a better spin on it.
Sophies has closed? I can't bear the thought, I arrive March 6. I just returned home from Rio and can't wait to hit PP, but if Sophies is closed...
Sophie's was open as of a month ago when I was there.
[QUOTE=Jazzy Daddy]Sophies has closed? I can't bear the thought, I arrive March 6. I just returned home from Rio and can't wait to hit PP, but if Sophies is closed...[/QUOTE]
I was in Sophies on 14 January. It was open on that day. I didn't find it interesting. The momasan and ladies were suspicious of me and my friend for some reason. Momasan tried to talk to me in Khmer 2 times and asked me if I was Cambodian. Also no ladies would even come up to me. I'm half asian-caucasian and can pass many things; but I never have a lack of attention. This was the first time I wasn't approached in such a place. The girls were a little cautious of my white Canadian friend too. A fellow mongerer in Siem Reap said we should check out Sophies and all kinds of dirty deeds would happen to us in Sophies. No such luck for us, also they said no short time in the place. I think they offered my friend $30 LT takeout.
One thing I can say is, the drinks were cheap and very strong. Momasan accidently almost completely filled my glass with Jack, then put barely any coke in the glass, she asked if it was OK,.. I had no complaints. It was open on 14 January though.
I didn't like it, either. I had one beer, with my friend, and left.
Thanks for the info. I'm asian/american also and the only place I've found in all my travels where no less than 3 girls will have you unzipped, in their mouths and tag teaming you by the time your drink arrives, has been Sophies. I just returned from Rio and spent the majority of my mongering in Centro and Villa Mimosa, some don't like those venues but I like variety when I travel. Thanks again for the quick response.
[QUOTE=Gagoo]The momasan and ladies were suspicious of me and my friend for some reason. Momasan tried to talk to me in Khmer 2 times and asked me if I was Cambodian. .[/QUOTE]
I suspect what you ran into was a fear on mamasan's part that you were a Cambodian working with one of the NGOs that tried to shut them down some time ago. An Asian with a Honky would fit that profile. Sorry about that.
Interesting reading all these reports about robberies at 63 st. But it isn't just the brothels to worry about.
I once stayed at Casa (the hotel near what Phnom) and picked up a cute take-away LT from a bar on the roundabout across from what Phnom (next to that little place that does good pizza) the bar may have been called Cayote Ugly. Or it may have been another one next to it. Was a couple of years back. Anyway. The theft:
Brought the (Khmer) girl back banged her twice. Got a reluctant BBBJ and then called it a night. In the morning we had b'fast together and I considered another round with her next time (was leaving that day).
Back to the room to pack and shower and realized the TV remote control was gone. I searched every inch of the place over and over. It was gone and since we watched TV together several times, it was clear she took it. Hotel didn't notice. And I paid cash. No credit card.
Didn't try the disco or KTV there. To be honest it was a little intimidating. Sort of Asian gangster style with expensive cars and bodyguard drivers. Not worth the hassle/risk IMO.
Also the hotel was really noisy even on upper floors due to the disco. Needed ear plugs to sleep. Smae story in Phnom Penh Hotel. From the drunken Chinese sex tourists.
About a year and half ago I was here and took a moto to Street 63. Went up the stairs, saw a bunch of Viet girls sitting around the room. The taxi driver was with me (he insisted on going up) The papasan quoted me $30!!! I assume that this was because the taxi driver was with me. I quickly walked out. Any way around this? How do I get there without having the taxi driver come up with me? (Last time I told him to stay put but he insisted on coming). I'd consider walking there (I"m staying at the Paragon at the moment), but don't really want to walk around this city at night.
A brief report thus far....
Sharky's - walked over there last night about 10 pm. Had one drink then walked out as didn't see any lookers. No Vietnemese were there for some reason.
Rose - took a motodop over to Rose and sat down at the bar. Quite crowded. All of the girls working behind the bar are real lookers, and most have fucking huge tits. Sadly I don't think any of these girls are available for ST or LT. Chatted up a cute Khmer girl but it was quite clear from her push-up bra and stretch marks that she has a kid and was trying to hide the fact (wouldn't let me look at her stomach). It was raining so I ran over to Zanzibar
Zanzibar - great bar but I think most of the girls here are hostesses. A few of the girls here are sisters. Chatted with a few of them for a while but all of them wanted me to buy them drinks. I bought two of them drinks and the other two turned bitchy. Finally got down to one that I really liked but when I invited her home with me she told me that she had to stay and work until 5 am. No idea on prices. Left at 1:30, was going to go to Le Cyrcee but just said fuck it and went home.
Gonna try Martinis tonight and hopefully will have better luck.
[quote=ancientfornicatr]i suspect what you ran into was a fear on mamasan's part that you were a cambodian working with one of the ngos that tried to shut them down some time ago. an asian with a honky would fit that profile. sorry about that.[/quote]
i've seen a few shows on tv lately that where some westerners would go around with some cops and go around busting places in asia for having **** girls. one show was in india and the other show was in cambodia.
sometimes the westerner guy would waste too much time talking and doing no action to the **** girls, then the momasan or papasan would get pissed and accuse them of being cops, or even threatened to kill them.
i figured me and my friend sort of fit in to the profile of being under cover.
you could hardly suggest that the sophies girls were ****!
[quote=cepu19]you could hardly suggest that the sophies girls were ****![/quote]
none onthe girls looked **** to be, so i don't know why they are so cautious, and i don't know why they lock the front door. as first timers there, we thought they were closed but decided to knock on the door and they opened it. then , they locked the door again.
my overly cautious friend felt some of the girls were borderline, i didn't pay much attention as i wasn't interested in anything there.
Considering prostitution and assisting prostitution is illegal in Cambodia that might be why they prefer LE not to come in while someone is getting a BJ sample in the bar.
This is why they have beds in the back rooms and then take them out, only to put them back in and take them out again.
Some of the place get around the law by seperating the rooms from the bar, others by paying off the cops, there has been constant roumours that Sophies failed to pay off the cops enough and hence the frequent problems
[QUOTE=Durianfan]About a year and half ago I was here and took a moto to Street 63. Went up the stairs, saw a bunch of Viet girls sitting around the room. The taxi driver was with me (he insisted on going up) The papasan quoted me $30!!! I assume that this was because the taxi driver was with me. I quickly walked out. Any way around this? How do I get there without having the taxi driver come up with me? (Last time I told him to stay put but he insisted on coming). I'd consider walking there (I"m staying at the Paragon at the moment), but don't really want to walk around this city at night.[/QUOTE]You would need to find a new moto driver . But seriously, if it really is an issue then I'd suggest directing him. Just get on and tell him go. Direct him on which turns to make and then tell him to stop when you are about a block away and then pay him. You walk a block and that should be the end of it. Knowing the directions shouldn't be too hard since everything is within 10 blocks and if you are staying further out then that's probably because you know the hotels and your way around already.
I had a quick overnight trip to PP, r&r on a business trip. You just got to love the place.
I arrived and hired a small motorcycle to make me more mobile. I stayed at Asisa hotel this time. I had one of the rooms with mirrors all over.
[b]Toul Kork and the Toll Road[/b]
First I inspected a few of the places for daytime action. A trip down through Toul Kork demonstrated a place that is not what it used to be. There are houses but the girls are not as keen on white fellows and there seems to be less girls of less Quality.
I have a place on the Toll road on the way out towards the mass graves. I can’t remember the exact name but I think it is on 271 just next to the two sharp bends in the road. There is a cluster of 4 to 5 houses on the road side. I cruised through a few times but found a bit of reluctance to take me.
I was waved in by a sweet young thing about 20 who was competing for my attention with two other girls available in this house. I turned out to be a decent choice. She was sweet. A bit reluctant to do a BJ but with a bit of coaching she did perform ok. Nice solid banging showing that fun can still be had for $5 plus $2 tip.
[b]Walkabout Girl[/b]
Early afternoon I went to the Walkabout for a beer. There seem to be new talent in the old zest pool. There I saw probably the best ST I have had in PP for years. Her name escapes me but with the chance of describing half the Cambodia population she was about 20 years old. She had black long hair with a slight overbite but only enough to be cute. He eyes was slightly more slanted than the typical Khmer revealing a bit of Viet in her make-up. The normal height let’s say 155 cm but a little more meaty than the run of the mill yamma Walkabout girl. Her English was fairly good and she had the most inviting smile I have seen for a long time. A tight white pair of jeans with a sleeveless black top made her a bit more sophisticated in looks than the typical girls. She had diamonds (or maybe glass?) in her five front teeth which made her a bit unusual. She was playing pool discretely scanning the room for potential customers.
I sat down and her radar quickly got locked in. She never approached but made it clear she was there for the taking. I approached her with ST $10 her reply was no I don’t go for less than $25!!! By then the one eyed monster was doing most of the thinking. I bargained and bargained but she was not moving. I ended up with $20 for two pops. Too much I know, but she had me mesmerised.
We are back on my bike but I have to wait while she SMSed her boyfriend! I presume it might have been her Khmer pimp although I don’t think the Walkabout girls generally are pimped – maybe it is only the boyfriend. She said she always did that before going.
As we entered the room she was confident but yet demure. I suggest that I only do bareback; she tells me that she only do condoms and offer to do a BBBJ but not sex. She is prepared to walk out on that one so I agree. Here she breaks the mole from many other PP girls.
She really genuinely seems horny and starts to undress me. In no time we are both naked on the bed. She had a very hairy pussy which I like and I quickly start to eat her pussy. She really gets very horny and wet. I move back up on her and kiss her tits and mouth. Suddenly but assertively she pulls me over her and I enter her bare back!!!! Why all the arguing first? She makes it clear that I have to cum outside which I respect.
She does a mean cowboy in an effort who would put many rodeo riders to shame, she cum a second time in a very strong orgasm. I am getting close to my destination and roll her over so I can exit at the appropriate time. The sex was simply such that despite only having had sex a few hours before I came in a strong orgasm. She was smiling at me with cum across her nose and hair. A memory I will carry with me forever.
We shower and return to bed. She is not in a hurry and we talk about life and everything. I ask her to stay long time and to go out dancing with me but she say she can’t as she has some family commitments at home. Ok I suppose even working girls have a private life.
Second round starts slow and loving growing increasingly passionate. I think the arse would have been open to inspection but it is not my thing so I did not ask. She has clearly been on the scene for some time but still seem fresh and open.
We part ways and I give her $20 which she is perfectly happy with.
[b]A quick scan of the scene[/b]
I have a quick look down 63rd street without seeing anything of interest. I cruise around Hun Sen Park and in this late afternoon a surprising number of street workers are out. My Walkabout girl session had taken it out of me, so I did not buy, just checking out.
Next trip I will return to Svay Pak for a look, this time I did not have time and I am sure I missed nothing.
I had my meal at the Riverside restaurant. Just love their German sausages. After a bit of hostess bar hopping I hit Martini around 9 pm.
[b]Martini[/b]
The place was rocking ok but still not as it used to be. I quickly committed to a sweet Viet girl, skinny but with a really sweet face. We settled on $25 LT and set on drinking and dancing the night away. Best as things were going; my Walkabout girls come into the disco. She sees me and proceeds to claim me as a long lost boyfriend. My Viet girl had different intentions and it almost ended up in a cat fight. Out of the two I would have taken the Walkabout girl. The Viet girl had the looks but the Walkabout girl the personality and she really had rocked my world. At that point in time I had committed to the Viet girl and I thought it wrong to change. Also the Walkabout girl made it clear that only ST was on the menu.
I returned to base around 1 am with my Viet girl. This turned out to be a mistake. In the room she turned hard and business like. She undresses and hit the shower and after splashing water everywhere returns towel wrapped and I did my ceremony too before returning to unwrap her. The blow job is mechanical and to pussy licking only a gesture. No bareback problem here, but it was just one of those sessions that never really happened. After one shot I decide to call it the day, choosing good sleep before my onward journey over bad sex. Just at that stage I would have given a kingdom for the phone number of my Walkabout girl.
A brief 24 hours in PP to show the town although not its former self still have a lot to offer. I wish I had the phone number or even the name (she told me but I forgot) on my walkabout girl. A photo of her just now would capture my memories of a great 24 hours when I go back to work slaving away waiting for the next opportunity to go to paradise but my broken camera broke that dream.
If anyone recognise and has the contact details for the Walkabout girl please PM me as I would like to line her up for a few days services on my next visit in a few months.
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Guy, i know this Girl!
I hope you used Condomes, since she is HIV psitive for about 6 month.
Be carefull with her.
A tight white pair of jeans with a sleeveless black top made her a bit more sophisticated in looks than the typical girls. She had diamonds (or maybe glass? ) in her five front teeth which made her a bit unusual. She was playing pool discretely scanning the room for potential customers.
[QUOTE=Cepu19]Considering prostitution and assisting prostitution is illegal in Cambodia that might be why they prefer LE not to come in while someone is getting a BJ sample in the bar.
This is why they have beds in the back rooms and then take them out, only to put them back in and take them out again.
Some of the place get around the law by seperating the rooms from the bar, others by paying off the cops, there has been constant roumours that Sophies failed to pay off the cops enough and hence the frequent problems[/QUOTE]
Some fellow mongerers told us we could get BJ samples in Sophies, we thought that would be something interesting to check-out. Well, it didn't happen for us. I don't know if it was only for us that they didn't do it, or if they where just careful for the time being.
[QUOTE=Cepu19]I had a quick overnight trip to PP, r&r on a business trip. You just got to love the place.
I arrived and hired a small motorcycle to make me more mobile. I stayed at Asisa hotel this time. I had one of the rooms with mirrors all over.
[b]Toul Kork and the Toll Road[/b]
First I inspected a few of the places for daytime action. A trip down through Toul Kork demonstrated a place that is not what it used to be. There are houses but the girls are not as keen on white fellows and there seems to be less girls of less Quality.
I have a place on the Toll road on the way out towards the mass graves. I can’t remember the exact name but I think it is on 271 just next to the two sharp bends in the road. There is a cluster of 4 to 5 houses on the road side. I cruised through a few times but found a bit of reluctance to take me.
I was waved in by a sweet young thing about 20 who was competing for my attention with two other girls available in this house. I turned out to be a decent choice. She was sweet. A bit reluctant to do a BJ but with a bit of coaching she did perform ok. Nice solid banging showing that fun can still be had for $5 plus $2 tip.
[b]Walkabout Girl[/b]
Early afternoon I went to the Walkabout for a beer. There seem to be new talent in the old zest pool. There I saw probably the best ST I have had in PP for years. Her name escapes me but with the chance of describing half the Cambodia population she was about 20 years old. She had black long hair with a slight overbite but only enough to be cute. He eyes was slightly more slanted than the typical Khmer revealing a bit of Viet in her make-up. The normal height let’s say 155 cm but a little more meaty than the run of the mill yamma Walkabout girl. Her English was fairly good and she had the most inviting smile I have seen for a long time. A tight white pair of jeans with a sleeveless black top made her a bit more sophisticated in looks than the typical girls. She had diamonds (or maybe glass?) in her five front teeth which made her a bit unusual. She was playing pool discretely scanning the room for potential customers.
I sat down and her radar quickly got locked in. She never approached but made it clear she was there for the taking. I approached her with ST $10 her reply was no I don’t go for less than $25!!! By then the one eyed monster was doing most of the thinking. I bargained and bargained but she was not moving. I ended up with $20 for two pops. Too much I know, but she had me mesmerised.
We are back on my bike but I have to wait while she SMSed her boyfriend! I presume it might have been her Khmer pimp although I don’t think the Walkabout girls generally are pimped – maybe it is only the boyfriend. She said she always did that before going.
As we entered the room she was confident but yet demure. I suggest that I only do bareback; she tells me that she only do condoms and offer to do a BBBJ but not sex. She is prepared to walk out on that one so I agree. Here she breaks the mole from many other PP girls.
She really genuinely seems horny and starts to undress me. In no time we are both naked on the bed. She had a very hairy pussy which I like and I quickly start to eat her pussy. She really gets very horny and wet. I move back up on her and kiss her tits and mouth. Suddenly but assertively she pulls me over her and I enter her bare back!!!! Why all the arguing first? She makes it clear that I have to cum outside which I respect.
She does a mean cowboy in an effort who would put many rodeo riders to shame, she cum a second time in a very strong orgasm. I am getting close to my destination and roll her over so I can exit at the appropriate time. The sex was simply such that despite only having had sex a few hours before I came in a strong orgasm. She was smiling at me with cum across her nose and hair. A memory I will carry with me forever.
We shower and return to bed. She is not in a hurry and we talk about life and everything. I ask her to stay long time and to go out dancing with me but she say she can’t as she has some family commitments at home. Ok I suppose even working girls have a private life.
Second round starts slow and loving growing increasingly passionate. I think the arse would have been open to inspection but it is not my thing so I did not ask. She has clearly been on the scene for some time but still seem fresh and open.
We part ways and I give her $20 which she is perfectly happy with.
[b]A quick scan of the scene[/b]
I have a quick look down 63rd street without seeing anything of interest. I cruise around Hun Sen Park and in this late afternoon a surprising number of street workers are out. My Walkabout girl session had taken it out of me, so I did not buy, just checking out.
Next trip I will return to Svay Pak for a look, this time I did not have time and I am sure I missed nothing.
I had my meal at the Riverside restaurant. Just love their German sausages. After a bit of hostess bar hopping I hit Martini around 9 pm.
[b]Martini[/b]
The place was rocking ok but still not as it used to be. I quickly committed to a sweet Viet girl, skinny but with a really sweet face. We settled on $25 LT and set on drinking and dancing the night away. Best as things were going; my Walkabout girls come into the disco. She sees me and proceeds to claim me as a long lost boyfriend. My Viet girl had different intentions and it almost ended up in a cat fight. Out of the two I would have taken the Walkabout girl. The Viet girl had the looks but the Walkabout girl the personality and she really had rocked my world. At that point in time I had committed to the Viet girl and I thought it wrong to change. Also the Walkabout girl made it clear that only ST was on the menu.
I returned to base around 1 am with my Viet girl. This turned out to be a mistake. In the room she turned hard and business like. She undresses and hit the shower and after splashing water everywhere returns towel wrapped and I did my ceremony too before returning to unwrap her. The blow job is mechanical and to pussy licking only a gesture. No bareback problem here, but it was just one of those sessions that never really happened. After one shot I decide to call it the day, choosing good sleep before my onward journey over bad sex. Just at that stage I would have given a kingdom for the phone number of my Walkabout girl.
A brief 24 hours in PP to show the town although not its former self still have a lot to offer. I wish I had the phone number or even the name (she told me but I forgot) on my walkabout girl. A photo of her just now would capture my memories of a great 24 hours when I go back to work slaving away waiting for the next opportunity to go to paradise but my broken camera broke that dream.
If anyone recognise and has the contact details for the Walkabout girl please PM me as I would like to line her up for a few days services on my next visit in a few months.
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I can't believe you go around screwing all these girls without condoms.
I never found a really hairy pussy attractive either. I prefer bald as it can get. Everyone has their preference though. But I only do bareback with non-working girls.
[QUOTE=Gagoo]Some fellow mongerers told us we could get BJ samples in Sophies, [/QUOTE]
Not just samples, they do it to completion. :D
At least the last time I've been there.
Cheers!
People can start the "safe sex" discussion here if they want to, but there is a safe sex topic on this forum so maybe that part of the discussion should be kept there. Choosing to BB or not is an individual choice as long as it is consensual with the girl in question.
We could get into a long discussion on risk and chances but in the Camboida Phnom Penh section I think the discussion should be about sex and prostitution in Phnom Penh Cambodia.
I could have sanitised my report to be "politically correct" to the safe sex police, but I decided to tell it as it was. I was more concerned about giving a good snap shot of the PP scene as I saw it.
By the way, I am not concerned as my doctor told me I can only catch HIV once so I will not get it again. It is something about your immune system protecting you once you have had it.
Walkabout girl
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I am not that concerned about that from my side. Risk of transmission from a HIV positive female to a male (with out sores or active venerial diseases) is 1 in 2000. Given I am circumcised the risk if further extended by up to 60%. So yes she could have infected me but the likelyhood from a single intercourse is very low.
[QUOTE=Cepu19]People can start the "safe sex" discussion here if they want to, but there is a safe sex topic on this forum so maybe that part of the discussion should be kept there. Choosing to BB or not is an individual choice as long as it is consensual with the girl in question.
We could get into a long discussion on risk and chances but in the Camboida Phnom Penh section I think the discussion should be about sex and prostitution in Phnom Penh Cambodia.
I could have sanitised my report to be "politically correct" to the safe sex police, but I decided to tell it as it was. I was more concerned about giving a good snap shot of the PP scene as I saw it.
By the way, I am not concerned as my doctor told me I can only catch HIV once so I will not get it again. It is something about your immune system protecting you once you have had it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cepu19]People can start the "safe sex" discussion here if they want to, but there is a safe sex topic on this forum so maybe that part of the discussion should be kept there. Choosing to BB or not is an individual choice as long as it is consensual with the girl in question.
We could get into a long discussion on risk and chances but in the Camboida Phnom Penh section I think the discussion should be about sex and prostitution in Phnom Penh Cambodia.
I could have sanitised my report to be "politically correct" to the safe sex police, but I decided to tell it as it was. I was more concerned about giving a good snap shot of the PP scene as I saw it.
By the way, I am not concerned as my doctor told me I can only catch HIV once so I will not get it again. It is something about your immune system protecting you once you have had it.[/QUOTE]
Cepu19: Forgive me if I'm reading this wrong. It is very early, and I just woke up. Are you saying that you are HIV positive? If you are, then it is correct that you will not get it again, but you'll certainly be able to pass it on to someone else. The chances of an infected male passing it along to a female are much higher than the reverse.
I am hoping I read this wrong.
Exactly. Me too, I can't believe what I have just read. No, Cepu19, HIV risk is fully part of the discussion about sex and prostitution, since if you contaminate our playground because of your selfishness there will be in the future less sex and prostitution here.
And also, 1 in 2000 is actually a very high risk fctor, given the large number of girls most of us on this forum "do" every year in Asia.
The remark about "not getting HIV again" was made as a joke! Sorry if it missed the target!
I didn't really post the report to get a lecture from my learnered friends about their view on the safe sex agenda. I already know those arguments and would never post on a site like this to have them restated to me again.
If you are worried about getting HIV I strongly recommend that you use condoms at all times. HIV could theoretically transmit even during oral sex (although no proven cases have been found) but many other venereal diseases will transmit through oral sex. See regardless of what [b][u]I[/u][/b] do it will not affect [b][u]your[/u][/b] safety as long as [b][u]you[/u][/b] use condoms.
So here we like to moralise as to what others should or should not do. Dody67 do it to a point where, without any factual basis whatsoever, he suggests that an identifiable girl in a bar has HIV. It is done in some perverted attempt just to drive the safe sex message home. See now we all know she has HIV – Dody67 knew her HIV status but not her name (thank you to the member who pm'ed her name to me). She will surely be welcomed back at the Walkabout hotel.
If the Safe sex discussion is part of the discussion about sex and prostitution then why is there a separate part of the board for "safe sex" discussion? Anyone who feels like entering into a moral discussion about condom use are free to go there why do we have the same discussion here?
Some NGOs estimate that 120 out of 100 prostitutes in Cambodia are HIV positive (WARNING. This was a joke! ) while others suggest it to be as low as 2 out of 100. Whatever the true infection rate is the chances of catching HIV as a man from a HIV positive woman on average without any other factors (other infections, cuts, circumcision, high viral load due to recent infection etc) is as low as 0. 05%.
I am not condemning anyone who wishes to use a condom, I will encourage you to. If everybody used condoms then my risk would be even lower. However for lectures on sexual morals I sugest "right to life" or similar sites and the discussion here could be limited to punting venues, nice girls and good experiences. This will most likely be the last experience of mine I will be sharing with this forum. Thank you for your kind attention.
Sounds like an instigation topic but it doesn't matter if it's serious. You can't change people's choices. Over half the mongers have something permenant and infectious like HPV, HSV-1 or 2, Warts, HIV, HepB/C. Condoms, if they chose to use them, don't protect against the first 3. If you are in the hobby then know the risks you take before you take them. You don't know what 100 guys have used the chick (if it's really a chick _) before you. Assume the worst and fuck away.
Have carrageenan/microbicide lotions and condoms yourself and that's all we can hope to do.
If any of you are interested is stats. I have already discovered 2 girls that used to be in walkabout (but I haven't seen FL in the past year) with oral herpes. 2 girls with HIV in Martini (one no longer is a FL and the other I posted of earlier). 3 Deaf chicks (only one left in sharky who is not attractive) not an uncommon circumstance I discovered when visiting locals in the countryside. Aand here's the kicker, If you see an exceptionally tall chick in Martinis who is the quiet type. She a hermaphrodite born with both male and female parts. There are 2 tall chicks there. 1 is really cool and the other taller one is a he/she. I learned some guys get a kick out of trying something new.
[QUOTE=Cepu19]People can start the "safe sex" discussion here if they want to, but there is a safe sex topic on this forum so maybe that part of the discussion should be kept there. Choosing to BB or not is an individual choice as long as it is consensual with the girl in question.
We could get into a long discussion on risk and chances but in the Camboida Phnom Penh section I think the discussion should be about sex and prostitution in Phnom Penh Cambodia.
I could have sanitised my report to be "politically correct" to the safe sex police, but I decided to tell it as it was. I was more concerned about giving a good snap shot of the PP scene as I saw it.
By the way, I am not concerned as my doctor told me I can only catch HIV once so I will not get it again. It is something about your immune system protecting you once you have had it.[/QUOTE]Please keep me informed of all your exploits, I will find the information very useful.
You would do well to revisit you doctor and have him explain fully the implications of your health.
[QUOTE=Hollow Man]Sounds like an instigation topic but it doesn't matter if it's serious. You can't change people's choices. Over half the mongers have something permenant and infectious like HPV, HSV-1 or 2, Warts, HIV, HepB/C. Condoms, if they chose to use them, don't protect against the first 3. If you are in the hobby then know the risks you take before you take them. You don't know what 100 guys have used the chick (if it's really a chick _) before you. Assume the worst and fuck away.
Have carrageenan/microbicide lotions and condoms yourself and that's all we can hope to do.
If any of you are interested is stats. I have already discovered 2 girls that used to be in walkabout (but I haven't seen FL in the past year) with oral herpes. 2 girls with HIV in Martini (one no longer is a FL and the other I posted of earlier). 3 Deaf chicks (only one left in sharky who is not attractive) not an uncommon circumstance I discovered when visiting locals in the countryside. Aand here's the kicker, If you see an exceptionally tall chick in Martinis who is the quiet type. She a hermaphrodite born with both male and female parts. There are 2 tall chicks there. 1 is really cool and the other taller one is a he/she. I learned some guys get a kick out of trying something new.[/QUOTE]
2 weeks ago I saw 2 deaf chicks in Sharkey's. I didn't know at first. I ask one of the female bartenders why they don't talk. The bartender said they must be dumb or crazy. I wonder why the bartender didn't know. Anyways, one of the Westener guys told me they were deaf.. then I felt stupid because I should have known.
[QUOTE=Cepu19]The remark about "not getting HIV again" was made as a joke! Sorry if it missed the target!
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There are other diseases to worry about other than HIV.
Anyways, I have to appreciate you not keeping anything out of your report, it give more facts so others can know what's going on.
Enjoy your life as you wish. I'll be wearing condoms with these girls.
I have known a couple normal, non-working girls in Thailand lately that I have started out the sex without condoms, but only becuase I was 100% sure they weren't sex workers.
[QUOTE=Cepu19]The remark about "not getting HIV again" was made as a joke! Sorry if it missed the target!
I didn't really post the report to get a lecture from my learnered friends about their view on the safe sex agenda. I already know those arguments and would never post on a site like this to have them restated to me again.
If you are worried about getting HIV I strongly recommend that you use condoms at all times. HIV could theoretically transmit even during oral sex (although no proven cases have been found) but many other venereal diseases will transmit through oral sex. See regardless of what [b][u]I[/u][/b] do it will not affect [b][u]your[/u][/b] safety as long as [b][u]you[/u][/b] use condoms.
So here we like to moralise as to what others should or should not do. Dody67 do it to a point where, without any factual basis whatsoever, he suggests that an identifiable girl in a bar has HIV. It is done in some perverted attempt just to drive the safe sex message home. See now we all know she has HIV – Dody67 knew her HIV status but not her name (thank you to the member who pm'ed her name to me). She will surely be welcomed back at the Walkabout hotel.
If the Safe sex discussion is part of the discussion about sex and prostitution then why is there a separate part of the board for "safe sex" discussion? Anyone who feels like entering into a moral discussion about condom use are free to go there why do we have the same discussion here?
Some NGOs estimate that 120 out of 100 prostitutes in Cambodia are HIV positive (WARNING. This was a joke! ) while others suggest it to be as low as 2 out of 100. Whatever the true infection rate is the chances of catching HIV as a man from a HIV positive woman on average without any other factors (other infections, cuts, circumcision, high viral load due to recent infection etc) is as low as 0. 05%.
I am not condemning anyone who wishes to use a condom, I will encourage you to. If everybody used condoms then my risk would be even lower. However for lectures on sexual morals I sugest "right to life" or similar sites and the discussion here could be limited to punting venues, nice girls and good experiences. This will most likely be the last experience of mine I will be sharing with this forum. Thank you for your kind attention.[/QUOTE]In your original report you did "miss the target" for me,however this report sets things straight for me. Thank-you for you candidness and i appoligies for my Knee-jerk responce. In my experience, if something can be miss-interpreted, it will be. Be aware of that .
[QUOTE=Cepu19] See regardless of what [b][u]I[/u][/b] do it will not affect [b][u]your[/u][/b] safety as long as [b][u]you[/u][/b] use condoms.[/QUOTE]Excellent quote. It sums up everything very nicely.
Add in a check for smells, leaks, dryness, cuts, and sores as further protection against the items that condoms don't prevent. I am one of the few mongers who are completely clean (no HSV-1/2 nothing, nada, completely clean), have never caught anything in 8 years of mongering, and plan to keep it that way.
How many of us have gotten a girl to find out she's on the rag then decide "Oh what the hell, I'm already paying for it. "? Or maybe she smells funny bad or has a weird discharge so we put her in the shower and wash her up and slap on a condom before going in? DFK? All personal choice.
The biggest secret which most people fail to do is. Here's the biggest and best secret. "Don't be hesitant to give her $5 for nothing and kick the ***** out. " THAT's RIGHT. If she smells funny or doesn't let you check down there then KICK THE ***** OUT. It costs me $25 co-pay to see my doc. Thats the equivalent of kicking 5 bitches to the curb. Way easier to kick them and get something better.
Keep safe, stay happy.
[QUOTE=Gagoo]Some fellow mongerers told us we could get BJ samples in Sophies, we thought that would be something interesting to check-out. Well, it didn't happen for us. I don't know if it was only for us that they didn't do it, or if they where just careful for the time being.[/QUOTE]
No more round the room BJs, Sadly, this seems to be the current trend at Sophies as the open BJ samples of the past was also lacking the last time I visited--due to more crackdowns by the police/Ngo. They don't seem to blow you at the bar as much as you have a beer, but do it more in the back away from prying eyes.
Sophies is far different from my 1st visit years ago when open BJ samples from all the gals were the norm (and $1 tip for each).
PT
To tell you the truth, Cepu19, I'm more concerned about the girls' safety. I can take care of myself.
I am concerned about the girl too. I am happy to tell you that I am HIV negative so you do not need to worry about the girl in that department at all. I had my last test about 3 months ago so unless I have been unlucky very recently and further that she is extremely that our time together was her 1 in a 1000 chance of catching HIV from unprotected sex with a HIV positive male then she should be ok.
What I was more concerned about was to pay her the fee for the service as malnutrition combined with risks of typhoid and or malaria in her home village cause significantly higher mortality in Cambodia than HIV despite the NGO campaigns in this area.
I know, I promised not to bite and yet. I am a bad bad man.
Just one more thing I remembers, she had really bad dermatitis on one of her arse cheeks. It was very itchy and caused by eating too much beef she claimed. Just a bit of trivia.
[QUOTE=Need More Gas]
This post may be in HCMC thread, but some may find it useful if coming to HCMC...
I have been to My Chau on Hai Ba Trung as I was recommended. I went there not for enhancers, but other medications I need.
Have you actaully bought V or C or generics there? If you have, how much did you pay?
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Sorry I don't remember the prices exactly but I think it was about $13 for a box of Kamagra and $15 for Cialis. Much more expensive than in Phnom Penh, or Bangkok too I think.
Just got back from PP a month ago. On the way to the many historic sights there, had my driver take me to a Sakura Massage. There were 3 girls in the lobby and had to pay $5 for the room. Picked a girl who was a 6 in my book. Tiny little thing but had a pretty smile. She took me to the 3rd floor where more girls were just hanging out watching tv. Made it in the room and lay on the bed and she gave me a half ass massage. Start working on my inner thighs and asked me if I wanted special. Asked how much, started at 40, I said no. First time there so didn't really know the price but brought her down to 25. She went out to grab a rubber, came back and showered. No yum yum so we did mission, cow girl and doggie. She was scared of little brother and asked me to pull out when I cum. She was a trooper because I was hurting her with my little brother .Shot me load, cleaned up and got in my ride. Overall, good experience. Check out Sakura if you have a chance.
[QUOTE=Roguesta]To tell you the truth, Cepu19, I'm more concerned about the girls' safety. I can take care of myself.[/QUOTE]I am concerned about the girl too. I am happy to tell you that I am HIV negative so you do not need to worry about the girl in that department at all. I had my last test about 3 months ago so unless I have been unlucky very recently and further that she is extremely unlucky that our time together was her 1 in a 1000 chance of catching HIV from unprotected sex with a HIV positive male then she should be ok.
What I was more concerned about was to pay her the fee for the service as malnutrition combined with risks of typhoid and or malaria in her home village cause significantly higher mortality in Cambodia than HIV despite the NGO campaigns in this area.
As serious as HIV is, as an occupational hazard I am sure that industries such as construction and transport would have higher fatalities than the prostitues from HIV, but that is just a gut feeling not facts to back it.
I know, I promised not to bite and yet. I am a bad bad man.
Just one more thing I remembers, she had really bad dermatitis on one of her arse cheeks. It was very itchy and caused by eating too much beef she claimed. Just a bit of trivia.
$13? Only about 9X PP cost for Kamagra (big rip off)
Apsalis is about $5 or so
(in PP near central market)
[QUOTE=Gagoo]2 weeks ago I saw 2 deaf chicks in Sharkey's. I didn't know at first. I ask one of the female bartenders why they don't talk. The bartender said they must be dumb or crazy. I wonder why the bartender didn't know. Anyways, one of the Westener guys told me they were deaf.. then I felt stupid because I should have known.[/QUOTE]I always chat to one of these ladys in sharkys when I go there, if she spots me she gives me a low down about the lady's who scam monger's,
You know? Out of all 20 men I had last week I love only you, send me to much money into my bank account for me to stay at home whilst your in farangland.
I have to act out my speach, for her to understand me.
I picked up some packs of Kamagra in Phnom Penh at a pharmacy on 182st directly opposite the Capitol Guesthouse. I have “tested” it and it is working. Cost was $3usd for a pack of 4 pills (100mg each). The packaging looks like it is the real stuff from India. Good value as Kamagra in Pattaya costs the equivalent of $12usd.
They also were selling Viagra for $8usd (1 pack of 4 pills of 100mg each), though I didn’t buy any as I only use Kamagra. The packaging said that it was made in the USA but packaged in Australia. No Cialis was available there.
This pharmacy is on the north side of st182 and just to the west of st107. As you face across 182 st with the Capitol GH to your back, you will see the ABC Internet café. The pharmacy is 1 or 2 shops to the left (ie west) of the internet café.
Go to street 136 between 53 and 51 (Pasteur). If you are leaving 53 toward 51, about 3 shops down from the corner on the right side there is a pharmacy with "boxes" of the K or Z displayed in the window (don't remember the name - but it's in here somewhere if you want to go look it up).
6 months ago the price was $2 for packs of 4 100mg K or Z Apcalis was $5 for pack of 2 20mg. there are several pharmacies - I've only dealt with this one.
street 136 is one of the streets surrounding the central market - it's the one at the bottom of the market in this map
[url]http://www.yellowpages-cambodia.com/images/maps/central-market.jpg[/url]
thought it was time i gave a bit back to the forum after a few years of mainly being a lurker. i live in london but my job mainly involves work in asia. i go on month long trips to se asia and china, heaven for someone like me who greatly favors asian women.
anyway, the following is a report on my activities since mid december 2007. it covers hong kong, malaysia and cambodia. future reports, if i get round to writing them, are likely to include vietnam, singapore, and indonesia as well.
i will post the whole report in each relevant section so please skip over any bits not relevant to the particular thread. for malaysia (kl) and cambodia (phnom penh) scroll down.
hong kong
i was in hk about a week before christmas. stayed at the novotel century on lockhart road, wanchai. very well placed relative to the wanchai bars, totally girl friendly and reasonably priced (not usually a major concern for me as my work is paying).
my favorite venue here is fenwicks. as someone noted recently mongering here is like shooting fish in a barrel. things don’t really get started until 10pm so no point turning up earlier than that – go to one of the other bars or get a good mexican meal in coyotes. between 10pm and midnight a huge number of girls come in. a mix if filipina, thai, mainland chinese and a handful of russians and africans. bar closes at 3am i think.
on this trip i hooked up with a bunch of filipina girls who hung around the table near the dance floor. great bunch of girls, lots of fun and were not too pushy for drinks. i quickly focused a young, slim and, imho, very pretty one. turned out to be 19 years old and very new to the game. loved dancing and had a great time. asked her if she wanted to come back with me lt and she jumped at the chance. her friends were cheering her as they said it was her first hook up (she had arrived in hk two days before). back in the room it became clear that while she was no virgin i would say she wasn’t experienced either. however had a lot of fun and she was also good to talk to too. in the morning i gave her hk$1000 and she looked delighted and off she went. this seems a bargain to me and evidence of her newness to the scene. i hooked up with her again every night for the rest of the trip, lt every night and just $1000.
returned to hk end of january. same hotel and wandered down to fenwicks at about 10pm on a thursday night. was quite quiet. kind of hoped the girl from before would be there but no luck. however spotted another filipina i thought was very attractive. good figure, pretty face. called her over, had a few drinks and a dance. she had arrived in hk two days before. however she didn’t play the innocent but said back home she worked in bars called mascara and ivory. having made it clear that i would be taking her back to the hotel with me we then settled down to some partying. popped over to neptune 2 which she hadn’t seen (very busy, good music and a lot of good quality girls), then to laguana (sp? ) (rubbish) and the back to fenwicks to see her friend. by now it was 1. 30am and much busier. i have to say i thought the quality of available talent was exceptional. what i would call 8’s and 9’s were available for anyone interested. my girl’s friend was complaining there were too many girls and too much window shopping by the men – not enough genuine customers.
anyway took my girl back to the hotel and have to say, what ensued was the best p4p experience i have ever had. she was fantastic. great body, enthusiastic and very accommodating. i wanted to cim but got carried away and shot early while getting into position. fired all over her face. we laughed about it and she actually complained that she preferred me to cim as she didn’t like having the ’sticky stuff’ on her face! never had someone complain about me not cim’ing before! another session when we woke up and then took her for breakfast. overall excellent and gfe. paid her hk$2, 000 because i was just so pleased.
unfortunately i can’t remember the names of either of the girls! i have an email address for the second but her name is not part of it.
malayisa
i was in kl for a few days in mid january. favourite hotel here is the concorde and, as i’m sure you can guess, favourite bar is the beach club.
arrived late on sunday night. given a great suite in hotel with separate sitting room, bedroom, dressing room and two bathrooms! went straight to beach club (via garage to buy condoms, girls don’t carry in malaysia so be prepared). quickly spotted the nights target, a hot bodied, reasonably pretty filipina called grace. was instantly attracted to her when she said to me "my names grace, and you should have grace before breakfast". couldn’t agree more! she was a great dancer, as was her cute friend kyla. their easy to find. generally hang out near the platform where some of the girls "table top" dance. took her back st as i was tired and wanted some sleep. she put on a great performance though once clothes off did reveal some stretch marks but sexy none the less. rm300 for the st.
next night by the time i got to the beach club grace was busy and i hadn’t made any plans to meet up with her so fair enough – she has a living to make. hooked up with another cute filipina (slightly fuller body but sweet face) called vanessa. took her lt (rm400). she got all shy back in the room. then all of a sudden she turned into a wild women, practically raped me, had a massive orgasm (or faked it well) and then went all shy again! a bit bizarre. continued shy act until left in morning. wouldn’t take her again but the 20 mins of ‘action’ were pretty fantastic.
final night was grace again. met up early. left beach and checked out rum jungle for a bit. good bar but not many, if any, fl’s just some hot local girls having a good time. back to room, fell asleep but had a good session in the morning. (rm400)
as an aside i would expect grace and her friend kyla to make a great double act. will be my objective if they are still there next time i am in kl. overall quality of girls at beach 6.7 but with some gems if you look. also you have probably guessed by now that i am a filipina fan.
cambodia
i was in phnom penh in mid jan. stayed at himawari. good price (us$90) and very gf. the security guards stop girls when they leave and call you in your room to make sure you are ok to let them leave. problem with himawari is that you need to book early as it gets very full.
unlike previous trips i didn’t make it to cyrecee this time. however based on my previous experience i would recommend it if you get the chance.
i spent my time this visit in bar 104. can be hit and miss here but i just got lucky on my first night and tied up with a group of girls who were very chatty and good fun. they had a friend who was very pretty, good body but spoke no english, mom i think her name was. while the chatty girls didn’t seem available (though i didn’t try very hard) mom was very willing. i had two nights of great gfe with her, despite the lack of english. sure i will be flamed but gave her us$40 per night in recognition of great performance.
one night i took the girls down to bar 136 which is 104’s sister joint. they were very excited by having a trip out and i think we all had a good time.
that’s it for now
ct
Can anyone confirm whether either of these hotels is girl friendly.
Thanks
Before I get flamed I have done a search of the thread and both hotels seem to be GF.
Thanks,
CT
I think both are GF. Never had any problems with Cambodiana. Never heard about problems at Sunway but don't know first hand.
[QUOTE=Chaos Theory]Can anyone confirm whether either of these hotels is girl friendly.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Considering the prices your paying these girls I should tell you nothing. That is totally ridiculous money. You must be loaded if you think $90.00 is a good price in Cambodia!!!! For that kind of money why don't you just pay the doorman and front desk people off and order out? Try Japan, or Rio, those are now ruined for normal pricing.
Getting to the point, Cambodiana has its own girls (and they are perfect for you $100.00 bucks a pop) and because of its own fishbowl they do not allow girls to come in. Try the basement.
Bring it down a notch, (I guess I am projecting)
Cheers,
Hummer
Chaos Theory paid too much in Malaysia too. RM 300 is way too much for short time from Beach Club. He seems to be on a one man mission to ruin S.E. Asia.
[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Considering the prices your paying these girls I should tell you nothing. That is totally ridiculous money. You must be loaded if you think $90.00 is a good price in Cambodia!!!! For that kind of money why don't you just pay the doorman and front desk people off and order out? Try Japan, or Rio, those are now ruined for normal pricing.
Getting to the point, Cambodiana has its own girls (and they are perfect for you $100.00 bucks a pop) and because of its own fishbowl they do not allow girls to come in. Try the basement.
Bring it down a notch, (I guess I am projecting)
Cheers,
Hummer[/QUOTE]If you are on expenseses or can afford it why stay at the WA for $15 per night if you can stay at a comfortable hotel? Why drive a Morris Minor if you can have a Rolls Royce? Is it part of dogma her that we have to rought it?
I didn't have any problems at Cambodiana so manby I was just lucky.
Sorry never noticed the $40 per night line. That is a bit excessive but not miles away from what actually gets paid when the forum is cleaned out for bullshit. Most WA and Martini girls are trying pretty hard for $30 LT. The bar girls will try for a bit more. Should try not to pay that much, but what the H. If you have paid $1500 to get here, $90 per night for a hotel at the end of the day will you let $10 for a night spoil your fun?
Thanks for the info on the Cambodiana. Have booked Sunway.
As for prices I wouldn't normally respond but , not sure where $90 came from, not even I would pay that in Cambodia!
CT
[QUOTE=Chaos Theory]Thanks for the info on the Cambodiana. Have booked Sunway.
As for prices I wouldn't normally respond but , not sure where $90 came from, not even I would pay that in Cambodia!
CT[/QUOTE]Chaos,
I am not sure when is the last time you been to PP hotel price has double in about 8 yr , I stay at Cambodiana on my first trip to PP back in 2000 pay 48 usd for a standard room ,I think you can still get a decent room for about 20 usd place like flamingo or asia hotel but no swimming pool ,price has double for most thing in cambodia the last 10 yr good thing is they use US dollar so currency is not dropping like in most asia country for us americans.
Fast eddie 48
Question: Am I allowed to bring in Cialis or Apcialis from Bangkok to Cambodia? Also, how about the reverse? Can I take it from Cambodia to BKK? Or must I buy it in the respective countries and only use it there?
Thanks, guys.
[QUOTE=Redfield10]Am I allowed to bring in Cialis or Apcialis from Bangkok to Cambodia? Also, how about the reverse? [/QUOTE]
I assume if you have a "normal" amount with you, lets say 10 or 20 pills, then it should be fine.
In case you have 10,000 pills it's probably a different story :D
Cheers!
My last time in PP a couple of weeks ago, I walked down St 63 at about 11.30pm, curious to take a look. Each shop just waved me away though, saying No.
I headed to Martini next. About an hour later I was returning to my hotel on a motorbike taxi, along with a girl I'd met, riding up St 63, and now all the guys in front of the same shops were trying to wave me down to come in as we rode past.
What gives? Is it still possible to just walk up to those places and be served?
Anyone else go to any of these places recently? What's a good time of day to go?
One more question.... at Martini, I actually went there first at about 10pm, and there were plenty of girls there by that time. I hung out awhile and didn't notice many more coming in. Then I went back to check out St 63 (see above), but then returned to Martini -- it was still all the same girls. I think Martini closes at 3am... is there much of an influx later on in the night at any point, or is it pretty much what you see at 10pm is what you see all night?
We stayed at the sunway in December and had no problems taking girls back which we did most nights we were paying the girls on average 30 dollars but that was for both my wife and I.
In December sophies was buisness as usual so am suprised at some reports saying it is closed unless this has happened in the last couple of weeks.
We also found quite a few freelancers at heart of darkness but it doesnt start getting busy until 12pm.
Mikado martinis etc all buisness as usual.
We also saw girls working down at boung kack lake [probably wrong spelling ] but its directly behind the phnom penh hotel now this is a back packer area but there are some great bars right on the lake where you can sit and relax during the day and quite a few girls playing pool and obviously looking for daytime customers and we didn't see many back packers down there unless they were all out buying lentils or kramas.
We also went to a couple of Cambodian beer/karioki bars aparently the girls on stage singing are all available but I don't think europeans would stand much chance the place we saw the most beautiful girls all easily 10 or over was svensons ice cream parlour we didn't proposition any of them but if anybody has and succeeded please post a report.
And finally is it just us or is Thailand trying to put of as many tourists as possible starting at immigration where it now takes an hour to get through which is just what you need after a 12 hour flight.
The sooner international flights are going straight to phnom penh the better.
[QUOTE=Wendella]My last time in PP a couple of weeks ago, I walked down St 63 at about 11.30pm, curious to take a look. Each shop just waved me away though, saying No.
I headed to Martini next. About an hour later I was returning to my hotel on a motorbike taxi, along with a girl I'd met, riding up St 63, and now all the guys in front of the same shops were trying to wave me down to come in as we rode past.
What gives? Is it still possible to just walk up to those places and be served?[/quote]You don't want to go to Street 63, the girl you choose will insist you put your pants [trousers] on the door hook behind you, were the pimps will put there arm over the door and take your wallet [purse] out of the pockets and put your pants back on the hook, there very skilled at this.
[QUOTE=Cam Bodia]And finally is it just us or is Thailand trying to put of as many tourists as possible starting at immigration where it now takes an hour to get through which is just what you need after a 12 hour flight.
The sooner international flights are going straight to phnom penh the better.[/QUOTE]I have noticed that too, in the new airport it seems to take significantly longer to get through than it did in the old one. On one occation easily one hour! A pain in the arse if you are connecting on a point-to-point airline. My advise is to allow AT LEAST THREE HOURS before connecting if you have to re-check your luggage.
I don't know where you're from, Cam Bodia, but you can fly from LAX to Taipei, and then on to Phnom Penh using China Airlines. They only fly from Taipei to Phnom Penh twice a week, however.
There are plenty of alternatives to BKK when flying to PP. Airasia and Malasia Air fly KL to PP, JetStar and Silk Air from Singapore to PP, Dragon Air from HK, Eva Air and China Airways from Taipai, Korean Airlines from Seoul.
If you are really pissed off the the transit arrangements then Thai Airways will fly your straight through without any need to clear customs in Bangkok. Thai Airways have good connections to Europe, US and Australia. I am sure that is the case with Malasia Airlines and Korean Air as well. The discount airlines was different.
However, Singapore is relatively fast to get through in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Niknoy]You don't want to go to Street 63, the girl you choose will insist you put your pants [trousers] on the door hook behind you, were the pimps will put there arm over the door and take your wallet [purse] out of the pockets and put your pants back on the hook, there very skilled at this.[/QUOTE]
I'm totally aware of the situation there, don't worry. One time victim myself of that scam (didn't lose anything, caught the guy in the act). I just wanted to check it out. If your trousers are empty, I don't think they'll keep the trousers. ;-)
Nobody has been there lately?
We fly from the UK so we only have one choice and thats to fly into BK then onto PP but thanks for the reply
[QUOTE=Niknoy]You don't want to go to Street 63, the girl you choose will insist you put your pants [trousers] on the door hook behind you, were the pimps will put there arm over the door and take your wallet [purse] out of the pockets and put your pants back on the hook, there very skilled at this.[/QUOTE]Next time fill the wallet with 100 Riel notes, photocopied US $100 bills, and monopoly money. Keep the real dough duck taped under your arm pits and in your ass crack.
What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.
I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.
I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.
[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.[/quote]Most of the rich indians who visit thailand or Cambodia don`t drink beer, so they go into a Thai bar and of course get chucked out when they dont buy a beer, they also seem to think they can look and touch the girls for free,
Other indians in Thailand or cambodia are indians who are immagrants and have no money.
If you have cash you will be welcomed in most places.
Where on 63rd St. Are the "shops" located? I usually stay at Flamingo's. Is it close to the big market or further down the opposite way? I would never consider walking there and would take a moto anyway. I just never have heard where on 63rd they are located.
[QUOTE=Niknoy]Most of the rich indians who visit thailand or Cambodia don`t drink beer, so they go into a Thai bar and of course get chucked out when they dont buy a beer, they also seem to think they can look and touch the girls for free,
Other indians in Thailand or cambodia are indians who are immagrants and have no money.[/QUOTE]Thanks for responding pal, if you could just help me a little more. So, are you saying it's a complete no as it is in Thailand or is it a little better than Thailand? I am looking to spend money while looking for my money's worth in return, simple. In Thailand they would turn me down even before I get to spend any money. That's the reason I ask. Because that kind of situation is beyond repair. Can I expect the same in Cambodia or little better than that? Help a monger!
[quote]I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.[/QUOTE]I was recently in Kuala Lumpur for four nights. The cab drivers are of Indian heritage, but born in Malaysia. They were all in an uproar when I was there because one of their people in the government had been shot. Long story short. They feel very discriminated against in their own homeland and are quite angry. One taxi driver told me quite seriously that Queen Elizabeth (of England) and the prime minister of Australia were going to come to Malaysia together and sort things out. I suspect you may have difficulties getting the service you desire in that country. Would definitely investigate a little further before you commit to a trip there.
As an indian in Phnom Penh you'll get some rejection. Africans and Indians have built a reputation for themselves (unfortunately) amongst the girls and bars but there are plenty of FL girls that will go with you. You're from Cali so if you speak with a perfect american accent then that will clear up alot for you. FL girls are desperate for customers so that should help, brothel girls have to go with you because there is no choice in the matter, as are massage girls.
So yes, you will be discriminated against somewhat $ and an american accent goes a loong way. Also hook up with an expat or a regular while you're there. If they introduce you to the girl then there should be no problem as well.
[QUOTE=Xdentx]I suspect you may have difficulties getting the service you desire in that country. [/QUOTE]
He'll get service but by Indian ladies then. Should be fine but don't expect lookers.
Otherwise maybe by a desperate Malay girl, but no chance to get a local chinese girl.
But also Viets, Thais and Indons hanging out here.
It'll work somehow.
Good luck!
I have read b-pundits report on Pattaya and can only warn somebody with an unchecked temper who thinks he can buy everything by throwing around money from visiting Cambodia. If you pull a stunt like he did in Pattaya you might really end up dead in the gutter. I would recommend a visit in india, with a guru perhaps, to work on some anger management issues.
The right personality and attitude a little humor and being self assured and not a foot stomping little kid will get you from a to be just about anywhere.
[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.
I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.
I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.[/QUOTE]Some of the tips already mentioned would probably have worked for you in Bangkok, such as checking out freelancers on the street, and being with a more accepted farang. Apparently Arabs and Indians are classified together, but many Thai & Russian ladies work the Grace Hotel in BKK, which is a hotel that caters especially to Arabs. So although it may be hard to find a real hot lady there, that would have been another doable option for you.
Good luck with your trip.
[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.
I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.
I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.[/QUOTE]I am not stereotyping, but here's a fact. I met up with a guy a few months ago at a bar in BKK. He happenned to be of Indian ethnic origin and lives and works in the USA. I could care less if the guy is purple and has two heads. However.
The guy acted like a total asshole towards the w omen in the bar. And word got around right away and of course, the "stereotype" was alive. So at least in the one instance where I was having a beer with a guy who happenned ot be Indian origin even though I think he was a US citizen, he acted like a jerk and well, there you have it. We all have to police our brothers or fairly or unfairly we are sometimes judged by artificial means because we happen to belong to a certain ethnic group.
[QUOTE=Ibeme]Where on 63rd St. Are the "shops" located? I usually stay at Flamingo's. Is it close to the big market or further down the opposite way? I would never consider walking there and would take a moto anyway. I just never have heard where on 63rd they are located.[/QUOTE]Turn left out of Flamingos, left onto #51, right at Walkabout, go one block and left onto #63; stroll on down the left side: the touts will let you know.
Not an unsafe walk in daylight. A moto dropping you off will raise the tab considerably.
Take only the money you need and no other valuables. Put your pants under the pillow, not on the rack.
Bayareapundit
Really do youself a favour and stay away from Cambodia, I second what islandboy54 has already told you an agressive attitude in Cambodia could have very serious concequences.
In fact I am very suprised that in Thailand the police didn't charge you for tearing up their currency as that is an insult to their king, a swedish guy burnt a note a while ago and was sentenced to 3 months in prison.
If you want to come back to asia why not try india obviously no prejudice problems there and you will find plenty indian sluts there just like the russian and thai sluts you said you found in Bangkok only cheaper.
Having read your Pattaya report and as you say money was not an issue I can't understand why you stayed, just buy a airline ticket and move on somewhere where you feel welcome.
[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.
I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.
I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.[/QUOTE]
I have never been to Cambodia but been to Thailand (Bangkok) many many times. I am the same ethnicity as you and also live in th US. I do not understand why you could not get laid in Thailand. When I go to Bangkok, I regularly do 2 girls a day (freelancers - I don't go to go-go bars because some of them discriminate). I have no problem picking up girls. Sure, some of them give me the cold shoulder - but there are SO MANY girls that I really don't give a shit. Once they start talking to me, they realize I am nice guy. More importantly, all working girls have a network and word spreads fast - good or bad. I have had girls tell their friends that I am nice guy, pay fairly, and clean. The friends then want to go out with me! This same thing happened to me in Dubai as well (where the racism is a million times worse than in Thailand). This PRC girl I took told her friend and that girl wanted to go with me (she was pretty good). In Dubai, CIS and PRC girls tend to stick to white customers mostly. In all cases,once they know you are from "America" (= $$$$$) they don't care about your skin color.
I am not going to judge you since I do not know you. But after reading the your report from Pattaya, I get the feeling you take things too seriously. Just relax and enjoy. You are there to have fun. What better revenge on people who discriminate than having fun IN SPITE of them? Also, the disparaging way your refer to the working girls speaks volumes about your attitude toward them and could be a major reason you had trouble getting your dick wet. This is typically Indian attitude: most Indians treat "help" as trash - whether be it domestic help, waiters, or working girls. I cringe every time I see that shit whether it is in India, the US or other countries.
I agree with whoever said not to be too aggressive in foreign countries. I had a close call in Brazil and learned my lesson. Better to walk away than be dead. And your (my) embassy won't lift a finger or give a shit.''
Why the fuck would you pay 10,000 baht to a CIS girl in BKK??? The going rate is 5000 baht at the most - from CM2.
By the way, the Indonesian girls in Jakarta loved me - because I looked so "exotic." But Indonesia is full of rip-off artists.
Cheers
There are in fact international flights going to PP.
If you have to change flight anyway, why not do that in Hong Kong and then go directly to PP.
Thanks a lot for your responses. Words of wisdom taken and Cambodia is out of equation. I already had Cambodia out of my plans but I took fancy to occasional mention of Viet imports and was thinking - maybe ... somehow. But, oh well ... I will satisfy my Viet fetish in California itself. California is not bad at all, abundant supply of imports from China, Taiwan & Korea and occasional availability from Japan, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia.
Secondly, why don't you question my Pattaya post in Pattaya forum?
Let me try to elaborate some more about that posting. That posting is not the entire experience I had; that posting has to do with the conclusion of my visit and is a statement of facts that might help some people (read Indian) make their mind. I doubt if such a categorical assessment of Thailand is available elsewhere from Indian perspective. I wish I had read such a statement before I made my trip.
Crypton - I did manage to get laid whenever I wanted. I had a girl every night, some of them for 2 nights which I found was the maximum I could stay with a particular one. I was an asshole only for 2 days and that was by design, all the other time I was a genuine monger on the hunt, taking chances - some successful and some not. I don't think I offended a single girl. I did not. I don't think I can ever offend a girl. In the worst case I would ask her to leave while cutting her payment short, which incidentally I happened to do on the very first night (what an initiation to (Thailand). At the end I had a huge list of telephone numbers which I had to dispose off at the airport.
Cam Bodia - I can't monger in India even though as you say it will take care of a lot of modalities because when I go to India I want to spend all my time with family. I could not be boozing and mongering full time which is what I want to do occasionally, to just set the spirit free. Secondly, money is not an issue but visa is. I have to plan my visit in advance, there are very few places I can just point my nose and go to. Thailand and Cambodia ruled out now. Man life is tough!
Redfield - My modus operandi is to first offer a drink to the lady when I want to talk. Usually another one also joins in. If I see some interest I hang around and keep compensating them for their time by buying them drinks or else I move on. I acknowledge there's definitely some part of Indian persona which makes them act in a certain way. It's not easy to get them to spend. When they spend they want to see concrete return upfront. I have had to adjust myself and I think I have been able to do it. But the Thai machinery is so setup that they would make it impossible for me to move to the next step. No problems here, I don't give a fuck what Thais want and don't want, I only wish I had known in no uncertain terms about it. I hope my report helps some people and makes them aware of the ground reality.
PinkPearl & Islandboy54 & Ekspat & Hollow Man & Xdentx - Thanks for sharing the pearls of wisdom!
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Go to Cambodia. My friend is from India (born, raised, and lived his whole life) and had no problems out on his own without me when we were there together. He dressed in slacks and dress shirts or polo shirts like I usually do. Cambodians and Thais have a diferent culture from each other and are still antagonistic towards each other. I arrive 16 March in PP, meet me there for the week and I will make sure you have a good time. Hell, drunk Koreans in PP have the worst reputation.
Cheers, T.
[QUOTE=Taloha]Go to Cambodia. My friend is from India (born, raised, and lived his whole life) and had no problems out on his own without me when we were there together. He dressed in slacks and dress shirts or polo shirts like I usually do. Cambodians and Thais have a diferent culture from each other and are still antagonistic towards each other. I arrive 16 March in PP, meet me there for the week and I will make sure you have a good time. Hell, drunk Koreans in PP have the worst reputation.
Cheers, T.[/QUOTE]Hey Taloha,
Thanks for encouragement. You know, my first question has basically gone unanswered, which will be the biggest factor in deciding whether is a go or no go. Am I going to be stopped right at the gate or not like in Thailand? Because in that case I am not going to care.
Secondly, what kind of action is there in Cambodia, do they have beer bars or only brothels and massage parlors?
[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]Hey Taloha,
Thanks for encouragement. You know, my first question has basically gone unanswered, which will be the biggest factor in deciding whether is a go or no go. Am I going to be stopped right at the gate or not like in Thailand? Because in that case I am not going to care.
Secondly, what kind of action is there in Cambodia, do they have beer bars or only brothels and massage parlors?[/QUOTE]
No you won't be stopped right at the gate. Cambodia has beer bars, brothels, and massage parlors. My friend hit the beer bars and massage parlors.
Two more questions concerning 63 st.
What time of the day do they open? I've read the stories anout these places and would feel safer during the day.
Second, roughly how far down 63 st. Are they from the street that Walkabout is on? 100's of meters, half a mile?
I'll be in PP sometime in March and would like to give them a try.
Is any mongers in PP right now , could you let us know if Sophies is still open, the wife loves going in to get her pussy licked. We will be in PP 2nd week in March.
Yes Sophie Club still open. I've been yesterday. They have one new girl coming from Battambang with excellent skills. If she can lick pussy like she sucks dick. I think you will enjoy.
[QUOTE=Cepu19]
[b]Walkabout Girl[/b]
Her name escapes me but with the chance of describing half the Cambodia population she was about 20 years old. She had black long hair with a slight overbite but only enough to be cute. He eyes was slightly more slanted than the typical Khmer revealing a bit of Viet in her make-up. The normal height let’s say 155 cm but a little more meaty than the run of the mill yamma Walkabout girl. Her English was fairly good and she had the most inviting smile I have seen for a long time. A tight white pair of jeans with a sleeveless black top made her a bit more sophisticated in looks than the typical girls. She had diamonds (or maybe glass?) in her five front teeth which made her a bit unusual. She was playing pool discretely scanning the room for potential customers
If anyone recognise and has the contact details for the Walkabout girl please PM me as I would like to line her up for a few days services on my next visit in a few months.
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This sure sounds like a girl named Navi, A khmer girl whose barang husband recently left her, so she is back on the scene at Walkabout. Exaggerated orgasm noises, money grabbing, meatier than usual body, 5 diamonds in the teeth and all. I am not a fan, but you have the name. Plus she is usually there almost everyday alone, so you should have no trouble finding her.
[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]Thanks for responding pal, if you could just help me a little more. So, are you saying it's a complete no as it is in Thailand or is it a little better than Thailand? I am looking to spend money while looking for my money's worth in return, simple. In Thailand they would turn me down even before I get to spend any money. That's the reason I ask. Because that kind of situation is beyond repair. Can I expect the same in Cambodia or little better than that? Help a monger![/QUOTE]Just buy a beer when you go into a bar, they just want to see that you will not take them for a ride,[or take one for a ride if you like her LOL] and cambodia`s the same, good luck.
[QUOTE=Bayareapundit]What's the attitude like towards people from India in this country? I ask this because I experienced in Thailand 200% unquestionable rejection from beer and go go bars. I would think of Cambodia the same way, being such a close neighbor of Thailand, but browsing this forum I saw several references to Viets as well. So maybe things are a little different.
I work and live in California and am thinking about a second excursion after last year's disaster in Thailand. Thailand book is closed in my mind forever. Even Thai food, Thai air, Thai businesses, Thai people, everything.
I am trying to decide between Cambodia and Malaysia within sometime between next 2 months.[/QUOTE]Why you just want to try gogo bar or bar beer in Thailand? This kind of place are farang oriented. I can tell you one thing: in the thai local scene, thai street hookers will never rejected you excepted if you re too" cheap charlie".
In Cambodia? I don't know about bar girls but in local brothels and with street hookers waiting on sisovath quay, you will have no problem. Be careful with your wallet if you take street hookers in Cambodia
Personaly Malaysia is good sex place a little bit more expansive than Thailand (due of high cost of rooms), the main problem is the action time no more than 20 minutes when you get 1 hours or more in Thailand. But Malaysia have thai, malay, Chinese (really appreciate by indians for what I saw), viet. But in Malaysia don t expected too much fromp bar scene it s really really expansive. Better to to go in spa, or local brothel or street hookers.
[QUOTE=Cam Bodia]Is any mongers in PP right now , could you let us know if Sophies is still open, the wife loves going in to get her pussy licked. We will be in PP 2nd week in March.[/QUOTE]
Sophies was definitely in business as of Friday nite. They may be a bit more conservative than in the past but it still cost me $4 for the 4 samples and $12 for the BBBJ and a beer.
Sorry this is about an incident that happened about 6 months ago. I'm just getting around to posting it now.
I picked up a tall girl from Martini's who looked Vietnamese but was Cambodian. We went to the nearby short time guesthouse, I think called "shining star". When I got in bed with her, she would not let me kiss her face, and would not let me kiss her breasts. Not in the mood for this kind of bs, I quickly decided to cut my losses. I started getting dressed and gave her $5 compensation for the 10 minutes she spent with me. She became enraged and demanded I give her the entire $15 we had agreed on, even though no sex took place.
I told her that $5 was enough under the circumstances (I had also wasted another $5 for the hotel room), and she gets on her phone and starts talking to someone. We both walk downstairs and out of the guesthouse, arguing all the way, but the guesthouse had locked the front gate so I could not get out. A moto driver was there, apparently the guy she had called on her phone, and he menacingly demanded I give her $15. I refused. I told the guesthouse manager to call the police. The girl offered me her phone and said I could call the police if I wanted. That was pretty naive of me, of course, as the police would probably just try to extort even more money from me.
I negotiated with the moto driver and finally he agreed that I could leave if I gave the girl $7.50. So I did. She walked back to Martini's, screaming "You don't want to fuck me? Fuck your mother!"
Sometimes I think that one should ask the girl in advance, "do you kiss? Can I kiss you down there?" and other such questions before agreeing to go. But I hate to do that because it's not very romantic. Anyway, it's so rare that I see a girl I really find attractive in Cambodia that, when I do, I figure I'll just toss the dice and see how it goes. But sometimes it goes like this encounter, not very well.
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Can any supreme mongers comment as to whether or not Thailand and Cambodia outweigh the Colombian scene overall for mongering. This should include the ease, cost and beauties. I have experienced Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam, and can say forget V for mongering unless your Trump. What about the beach beauty in Colombia, any comparisons to Thai or Cam?
Thanks,
Hummer
[QUOTE=Gumbyy]Sorry this is about an incident that happened about 6 months ago. I'm just getting around to posting it now.
I picked up a tall girl from Martini's who looked Vietnamese but was Cambodian. We went to the nearby short time guesthouse, I think called "shining star". When I got in bed with her, she would not let me kiss her face, and would not let me kiss her breasts. Not in the mood for this kind of bs, I quickly decided to cut my losses. I started getting dressed and gave her $5 compensation for the 10 minutes she spent with me. She became enraged and demanded I give her the entire $15 we had agreed on, even though no sex took place.
I told her that $5 was enough under the circumstances (I had also wasted another $5 for the hotel room), and she gets on her phone and starts talking to someone. We both walk downstairs and out of the guesthouse, arguing all the way, but the guesthouse had locked the front gate so I could not get out. A moto driver was there, apparently the guy she had called on her phone, and he menacingly demanded I give her $15. I refused. I told the guesthouse manager to call the police. The girl offered me her phone and said I could call the police if I wanted. That was pretty naive of me, of course, as the police would probably just try to extort even more money from me.
I negotiated with the moto driver and finally he agreed that I could leave if I gave the girl $7. 50. So I did. She walked back to Martini's, screaming "You don't want to fuck me? Fuck your mother! "
Sometimes I think that one should ask the girl in advance, "do you kiss? Can I kiss you down there? " and other such questions before agreeing to go. But I hate to do that because it's not very romantic. Anyway, it's so rare that I see a girl I really find attractive in Cambodia that, when I do, I figure I'll just toss the dice and see how it goes. But sometimes it goes like this encounter, not very well.
I have had problems with Cambodian woman similar to this, which is why I only go with viatnamese woman in Cams.
The Cambodian woman seem to only f**k like a robot and thats all you get. Cambodian woman are good for marriage, if any mongers are interested, I really mean this.
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Last Saturday night I went for dinner at Sharkey hoping that if some decent girl is found there I can accomplish 2 goals in one go; get my stomach filled and get a girl back.
The food was extremely slow but in very large portion, while waiting for my food to come, some glass breaking noise strikes. Seems like some customer had dispute and thrown the glass/bottle on the floor. People holding the 2 in disputes and finally peace came back to the scene.
Could not find anyone to my appetite, the most appealing girl there was the waitress who served me; so just asked for her name and gave her all the change and said goodbye to the place; bound for Cyrcee to fulfill my next objective of the night.
As soon as entering the club, I was surrounded by 3 girls at once. All hugging me and put my arms around their neck, legs or wherever they like. Kissing me all over and all telling that they would serve me well. Yum yum, fucking are offered right away and some jokingly said they need money to pay for phone bill. I told them that I need sometime to sip my drink and think about who to take. All girls at this club were Khmers with no Viet girls on site.
One of the girl wanted to know the result sooner so she asked me to choose who to go up with. I said I'm in no hurry and need my time so after awhile she left and the 2 other girls still surround me and either hug or massage me. So, I enquired about the rate and was told 15+4=19 USD. I told them that the rate I know of is 2 USD for the room but they said it was hiked sometime ago.
They urged me to go up soon as the better room with bathroom inside is still available. I felt it was about time so chose one with large exploding breast and large eyes. The other small and cute face girl was not bad either but I can take only one girl. Needless to say she was disappointed and did not hide her feeling as well as murmer something in her mouth.
The room is small in size but enough to serve the purpose, better and cleaner than Sophie's. The girl - Sunny? was quick in getting naked and helped me out as well. Showering together and she cleaned my body then hers before the action. Very accommodating girl and OK for any request made. Not too bad performance and soon we finished it downstair to get the bill. 15 USD directly to the girl and drink + room charge to the bar.
Can recommend to those who want the action outside of the hotel but girls can be taken back to your own place as well.
My stay last week was at Flamingo Hotel as usual and I went out to Martini around 10:20 taking tuktuk in front of the hotel. Being asked for 4 USD and negotiated it down to 10,000 Riels (probably could be down to 8,000 Riels)
Went inside to get my beer and found a place to sit down for monitoring. Girls passing by and some tried to make eye contact but I acted as if not seeing that if she does not catch my eyes. Found a long hair Viet dressed in black to my taste but wanted to see the whole available stock before making decision so I just continue with sipping the beer and people watching. It remind me of safari looking out for wildlife, but here we are to look for the night creature to spend the night with...
After awhile I was approached by a mamasan, offering me a girl who is guaranteed to provide very good service. Not bad looking at all and in afact quite match my taste. I hit my head how could I not seeing her until introduced by mamasan, but she was sitting a bit behind me in blind spot so can't help.
The girl is called Li and I asked for the price soon after talking to her. Was quoted ST 25 USD, LT 40 USD and of course I said No. Having to pay a cut of 5 USD to mamasan we settled at 30 USD LT and so we go to my hotel.
Li took quite sometime showering herself and when it comes to the action she is quite good in sucking. Ride on her and turn her backwards and so on; I did enjoy myself well until finishing it.
Soon after the shower she came back and told me that she did not feel well in the stomach due to my pumping. She said my little brother was big and she only had one barang customer before who was small and so are other Asian customers. I said sorry, I can't comment on my size because I never really see other men's member erected in full size and I did not mean to harm her. So, she said she'd like to go back and maybe see doctor and I said OK.
Paid her 20 USD for ST rate plus 5 USD tip/taxi, but she asked if I can give her 5 USD more for doctor as she may not be able to work the next day. I chipped in 10,000 R more and said goodbye to her. Quite satisfied with my pick of the night but it ended sooner than expected. Enough to give me a good sleep 'til morning fully refreshed the next day. In retrospect I may not be as fresh should I have her for the whole night and go for another session as it may drain my energy further to some extent...
[QUOTE=Saint Jack]My stay last week was at Flamingo Hotel as usual and I went out to Martini around 10:20 taking tuktuk in front of the hotel. Being asked for 4 USD and negotiated it down to 10,000 Riels (probably could be down to 8,000 Riels)
Went inside to get my beer and found a place to sit down for monitoring. Girls passing by and some tried to make eye contact but I acted as if not seeing that if she does not catch my eyes. Found a long hair Viet dressed in black to my taste but wanted to see the whole available stock before making decision so I just continue with sipping the beer and people watching. It remind me of safari looking out for wildlife, but here we are to look for the night creature to spend the night with...
After awhile I was approached by a mamasan, offering me a girl who is guaranteed to provide very good service. Not bad looking at all and in afact quite match my taste. I hit my head how could I not seeing her until introduced by mamasan, but she was sitting a bit behind me in blind spot so can't help.
The girl is called Li and I asked for the price soon after talking to her. Was quoted ST 25 USD, LT 40 USD and of course I said No. Having to pay a cut of 5 USD to mamasan we settled at 30 USD LT and so we go to my hotel.
Li took quite sometime showering herself and when it comes to the action she is quite good in sucking. Ride on her and turn her backwards and so on; I did enjoy myself well until finishing it.
Soon after the shower she came back and told me that she did not feel well in the stomach due to my pumping. She said my little brother was big and she only had one barang customer before who was small and so are other Asian customers. I said sorry, I can't comment on my size because I never really see other men's member erected in full size and I did not mean to harm her. So, she said she'd like to go back and maybe see doctor and I said OK.
Paid her 20 USD for ST rate plus 5 USD tip/taxi, but she asked if I can give her 5 USD more for doctor as she may not be able to work the next day. I chipped in 10,000 R more and said goodbye to her. Quite satisfied with my pick of the night but it ended sooner than expected. Enough to give me a good sleep 'til morning fully refreshed the next day. In retrospect I may not be as fresh should I have her for the whole night and go for another session as it may drain my energy further to some extent...[/QUOTE]Saint jack,
You are being a nice guy but nice guy is the one that over paid and kill the market , I paid 20 baht for moto bike from central market to martini and I never paid the mommie the girl don't work for them they are freelance ad the girl will tell you anything just to go early so she can go back the bar for another customer I would just give her 15 usd and say good bye .
[QUOTE=Ibeme]
What time of the day do they open? I've read the stories anout these places and would feel safer during the day.
Second, roughly how far down 63 st. Are they from the street that Walkabout is on? 100's of meters, half a mile?
[/QUOTE]
Not sure about the first question but if you walk down the Walkabout street, 63rd Street is the first intersection you reach, and the shops are on that first block when you turn left. Not sure exactly how many meters but maybe it's 3? 4? 5?
I posted awhile back about my own experience there and am pretty surprised I got no reply at all from anyone here. I walked past those shops at about 11.30 one night a few weeks back and was basically refused. The guys just kept saying No. About one hour later I happened to be driving by on the back of a motorbike taxi, and THEN the guys in front of the shops were calling for me to come in. The problem was that I already had a girl (sitting between me and the driver). Too late. So MY question is: what's up? Are they refusing people who just walk up these days? Are there certain times when farang are welcome, and times when they're not?
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Saint jack,
You are being a nice guy but nice guy is the one that over paid and kill the market , I paid 20 baht for moto bike from central market to martini and I never paid the mommie the girl don't work for them they are freelance ad the girl will tell you anything just to go early so she can go back the bar for another customer I would just give her 15 usd and say good bye .[/QUOTE]
Fast Eddir 48,
May be I'm too naive to believe what these girls says. I have little resistance when being nagged or asked by girl for something hugging and smiling...
SJ
Can anyone recommend a decent hotel in Phnom Penh?
I've used the River Star (not Riverside) twice-its cheap & Clean, but VERY basic and not my style. Been to the Bougainvillier twice, nice but NOT Girl friendly (they demand girls ID card and bribing is both expensive & embarrassing).
Interconti was okay but costly, $1000 five days.
I do need Internet (willing to pay extra) and a safe in the room; the hotel should be girl friendly and preferably around Sisowath Quai. Anyone some idea?
[quote]my company, a hotel chain is sending me over here, and i have several questions if somebody can help me out. as a newbie please don;t laugh.
1. are these girls in the bars only or in the streets like usa?
2. what is the legal age for intercourse?
3. is the trade(prostitution) legal?
4. can we the guys get in trouble for partaking in the act?
thanks bunches![/quote]1.. all of the above. walkabout and sharky’s are large freelance bars. at walkabout you will find girls 24/7 it never shut. you will also find freelance in martini’s and heart of darkness discos.
there are many hostess bars all over pp where there are girls available but you will have to bar fine them and will be hit up for lady drinks.
for street walkers go to hun sen park where you will find plenty late afternoon. you will also find them at riverside and 51 st up near sorea market. you will find them in the shopping centre if you have an eye for girls walking aimlessly around.
on 271 street toul kork and 63 rd street (careful scams are rife here) there are shop front knock shops. go pick, fuck and leave. some with very good selection. if you look around you will find similar cheap shops all around the place. after a while you will notice many advertise 5000 riel this and that.
there are several brothel bars. mikado, cyree and sophies to mention a few. the concept simple. sit have a beer – in sophies have a bj with your beer – pick and retire to a room either on premise or just next door.
2. – if you are paying for it 18 years is the only safe option. you can be prosecuted in the usa for doing a girl under the age of 18 so don’t.
3. – no prostitution is not legal and neither is providing premises for it. the penalties are harsh as the fellow from listerine bar found out the hard way. it is however tolerated so take it easy. stay away from ****, pay the girl what you promised to pay her beforehand and you should be ok.
4. – as above – some care with taking pictures, but don’t be paranoid. don’t do **** stuff, be discrete, get away if there is trouble and unless you have been really stupid – there is nothing a bit of money won’t fix.
have a good time and report your finding back to us.
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Folks,
Whats the deal in SH bar? Has anyone taken a girl out? I tried and failed. I like Lilly, Mao, and. One with very long sikly hairs and a godess body, I think Rotha (can't recall for sure). I have the feeling these girls look for BFs or just want you back again and again at the bar to get them girl drinks.
bbb
Wow thanks a whole bunch. Over here in USA, I love the asian women, and have been with several, OK. MANY! The younger ones seem to be more energetic, but lack the skills usually, the older ones tend to be more fun, but nearly as firm.
I prefer the smaller spinner types, LOVE the flat chested ones that shave below. I see many pics on here and it seems liek most girls DO NOT SHAVE their pubes but do shave under arms etc. I also see some small breasted girls but they seem very hard, and almost like a fake tit job. Or are they just so firm and beautiful?
Anyway thanks so much, can't wait to get over there and sample the ladies.
Bruce
If your talking about SH bar across from Flamingo Hotel they certainly were last year and if they like you they'll give you their phone number for hook up after work or during the day. I arrive on the 6th of March, can't wait...
[QUOTE=BangBangBang]Folks,
Whats the deal in SH bar? Has anyone taken a girl out? I tried and failed. I like Lilly, Mao, and. One with very long sikly hairs and a godess body, I think Rotha (can't recall for sure). I have the feeling these girls look for BFs or just want you back again and again at the bar to get them girl drinks.
bbb[/QUOTE]
Only had bad experiences with SH girls. Would not worry about it again. Happened more than once that the girl did a runner even before the hotel. They seems to be looking primarialy for boyfriends.
Hi there,
We've stayed at the Intercontinental very good but quite expensive. A good alternative is the Sunway Hotel very clean and spacious rooms, some with balcony, internet available safe in room and very girl friendly, when we took a girl back which was most nights they didn't ask for any id but when the girl was leaving they would ring to make sure everything was ok before she could leave.
Have also stayed at Phnom Penh Hhotel which was ok again very girl friendly but feel the position of the Sunway is better.
[QUOTE=BangBangBang]Folks,
Whats the deal in SH bar? Has anyone taken a girl out? I tried and failed. I like Lilly, Mao, and. One with very long sikly hairs and a godess body, I think Rotha (can't recall for sure). I have the feeling these girls look for BFs or just want you back again and again at the bar to get them girl drinks.
bbb[/QUOTE]Yeah, I was at SH bar in November, spent a good part of the evening and early morning there. It seemed that the girls only wanted to be barfined to go dancing. They were also very pushy for the lady drinks. There was no sign of them willing to back to the hotel for P4P. Didn't return to SH because of that.
Southbound69
[QUOTE=BangBangBang]Folks,
Whats the deal in SH bar? Has anyone taken a girl out? I tried and failed. I like Lilly, Mao, and. One with very long sikly hairs and a godess body, I think Rotha (can't recall for sure). I have the feeling these girls look for BFs or just want you back again and again at the bar to get them girl drinks.
bbb[/QUOTE]
Yeah the Shanghai bar is one of the worst. I was there a little over a year ago. It has a nice atmosphere, and the girls are pretty, but I never had any luck at taking them out. I even spent my last night chatting one up, buying her drinks, etc. and when I asked her to come back to the room with me, her response was "I never go with customer."
Stay away.
I stayed in the Himawari Hotel-Apartments for three nights in January and enjoyed it very much. It's definitely upscale and overlooks the river. My spaceous studio included a small kitchen, tv., internet at no extra charge, and an outstanding breakfast each day. Two monogramed cotton bathrobes in the closet were appreciated by the ladies. Not sure if I'd want to have breakfast there with my overnight guest however. They attract businessmen and familys. They are very guest friendly..don't ask for any id....no problem. They may ask which room you're registered in when you go up the elevator...which is in a fairly quiet and accessible part of the lobby. They always called the room to make sure everything was fine before letting the girl leave. Very courteous. In room safe, outdoor swimming pool, indoor recreation room. You can easily walk to the Palace grounds from there. Cost was about $128/day, but if that doesn't bother you, go for it. See their web site for pics and details. I would stay there again. Had been booked into the Bougainviller, but cancelled that after reading about the loud ongoing construction noise next door and the owner's lack of friendliness.
[url]http://www.himawarihotel.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=BangBangBang]Folks,
Whats the deal in SH bar? Has anyone taken a girl out? I tried and failed. I like Lilly, Mao, and. One with very long sikly hairs and a godess body, I think Rotha (can't recall for sure). I have the feeling these girls look for BFs or just want you back again and again at the bar to get them girl drinks.
bbb[/QUOTE]
I did barfines a girl last year; did ask for the price and she said it's up to me. Have to pay 5 USD barfine to the bar though. Please see my report in September 07.
SJ
@ Mango; i took one from the Shanghai Bar; in the room; no service; worse
situation; i kicked her out. I will never visit that bar again
What's the deal with these places?
[QUOTE=Steve German]@ Mango; i took one from the Shanghai Bar; in the room; no service; worse situation; i kicked her out. I will never visit that bar again[/QUOTE]I can confirm this- took a girl from Shanghai bar twice with pretty disappointing results. Martini or 63rd Street is much better.
I agree that Shanghai Bar is a waste of time. I went in and sat down. None of the girls bothered to approach me. And no I'm not some hideous old man - I was the youngest customer in the bar. At least in the other "friendly hostesses" bars it's easy to pick a girl you want to "chat up". Shanghai seems to be popular with do-gooder English teacher and charity worker types rather than mongers. If I want to spend my time chatting up Khmer girls there are millions of them outside the "friendly hostesses" bars who are much better company. If I want P4P I'll go somewhere without all the bullshit you get in this bar.
I post regularly (when I visit) on the Filipina/Thai boards.
I actually enjoy the "interview" portion of mongering. It can be fun and stimulating, i.e., listening to the gal review her skills, accomplishments, and performance promises. It can also better position you for later disagreeements. You would be surprised how some of them wilt when you restate their own promises. Also, the increased conversation gives you more of a feel as to whether you should "have at it" at all.
By the way, I will be visiting Cambodia in a few months, and advice on a hotel in PP central to most of mongering opportunities.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Niknoy][QUOTE=Gumbyy]Sorry this is about an incident that happened about 6 months ago. I'm just getting around to posting it now.
I picked up a tall girl from Martini's who looked Vietnamese but was Cambodian. We went to the nearby short time guesthouse, I think called "shining star". When I got in bed with her, she would not let me kiss her face, and would not let me kiss her breasts. Not in the mood for this kind of bs, I quickly decided to cut my losses. I started getting dressed and gave her $5 compensation for the 10 minutes she spent with me. She became enraged and demanded I give her the entire $15 we had agreed on, even though no sex took place.
I told her that $5 was enough under the circumstances (I had also wasted another $5 for the hotel room), and she gets on her phone and starts talking to someone. We both walk downstairs and out of the guesthouse, arguing all the way, but the guesthouse had locked the front gate so I could not get out. A moto driver was there, apparently the guy she had called on her phone, and he menacingly demanded I give her $15. I refused. I told the guesthouse manager to call the police. The girl offered me her phone and said I could call the police if I wanted. That was pretty naive of me, of course, as the police would probably just try to extort even more money from me.
I negotiated with the moto driver and finally he agreed that I could leave if I gave the girl $7. 50. So I did. She walked back to Martini's, screaming "You don't want to fuck me? Fuck your mother! "
Sometimes I think that one should ask the girl in advance, "do you kiss? Can I kiss you down there? " and other such questions before agreeing to go. But I hate to do that because it's not very romantic. Anyway, it's so rare that I see a girl I really find attractive in Cambodia that, when I do, I figure I'll just toss the dice and see how it goes. But sometimes it goes like this encounter, not very well.
I have had problems with Cambodian woman similar to this, which is why I only go with viatnamese woman in Cams.
The Cambodian woman seem to only f**k like a robot and thats all you get. Cambodian woman are good for marriage, if any mongers are interested, I really mean this.
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[QUOTE=Billpsu]By the way, I will be visiting Cambodia in a few months, and advice on a hotel in PP central to most of mongering opportunities.
[QUOTE=Niknoy][/QUOTE]Central to mongering - Walkabout hotel is pretty central, well actually ground zero almost. However, it can be a bit busy and noisy. Some rooms were recently refurbished including some with spa.
Just across the road you will find Flamingo's. A much better choise in my opinion. It gets mixed reviews, management sometimes leave a bit to be desired. The advantages is close to WA, quiet, nice roof top resturant, little bar with pool table in lobby makes it a good place for a night cap before retireing with you girl for the night.
From either of these there are a few hostess bars and Walkabout, Heart of Darkness Disco as well as 63rd street within walking distance.
Any of the riverside hotels towards the 102st end will have you centrally placed as well. I have never stayed at DV8 but I have heard good and bad about it.
In essense you are never really far from the action in PP. I often stay at one of the hotels on Monivong road. No real action directly there, but if you hire a little motorcycle (or just use the hotel motodrivers) you are never more than 5 minutes away from the action.
New York Hotel has its own fish bowl on the top floor. A slightly more expensive proposition but nice for a change. The rooms a decent but a bit more expensive than the previous options.
Hotel Big Luck and Asia Hotel are also decent options.
So, for less than $40 per night you will get a decent bed with air con. Rooms are available for less (starting at $5 to $200 or more) depending on your style and budget.
Have a great trip.
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[QUOTE=Cepu19][QUOTE=Billpsu]New York Hotel has its own fish bowl on the top floor. A slightly more expensive proposition but nice for a change.[/QUOTE]Do you remember the rates for this fish bowl? Number of girls? Provider quality?
Thanks
Thank you for taking the time to put all the information together.
Appreciated.
[QUOTE=Cepu19][QUOTE=Billpsu]By the way, I will be visiting Cambodia in a few months, and advice on a hotel in PP central to most of mongering opportunities.
Central to mongering - Walkabout hotel is pretty central, well actually ground zero almost. However, it can be a bit busy and noisy. Some rooms were recently refurbished including some with spa.
Just across the road you will find Flamingo's. A much better choise in my opinion. It gets mixed reviews, management sometimes leave a bit to be desired. The advantages is close to WA, quiet, nice roof top resturant, little bar with pool table in lobby makes it a good place for a night cap before retireing with you girl for the night.
From either of these there are a few hostess bars and Walkabout, Heart of Darkness Disco as well as 63rd street within walking distance.
Any of the riverside hotels towards the 102st end will have you centrally placed as well. I have never stayed at DV8 but I have heard good and bad about it.
In essense you are never really far from the action in PP. I often stay at one of the hotels on Monivong road. No real action directly there, but if you hire a little motorcycle (or just use the hotel motodrivers) you are never more than 5 minutes away from the action.
New York Hotel has its own fish bowl on the top floor. A slightly more expensive proposition but nice for a change. The rooms a decent but a bit more expensive than the previous options.
Hotel Big Luck and Asia Hotel are also decent options.
So, for less than $40 per night you will get a decent bed with air con. Rooms are available for less (starting at $5 to $200 or more) depending on your style and budget.
Have a great trip.
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[QUOTE=Orange Sunshine][QUOTE=Cepu19]Do you remember the rates for this fish bowl? Number of girls? Provider quality?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Last time I took from the Fishbowl in NY was around May. From memory (not 100% sure) it was $20 ST but don't hold me to it. Nice selection about 10 or 15 girls in the afternoon. Not really my thing but a nice change.
Can someone please answer a question for me? What is the drug the Cambo gals call "Ma"?
LexLuther
It's usually called 'yama', and contains a fair amount of meth amphetamine. It is smoked, and is very addictive. Very bad stuff.
[QUOTE=Cepu19]Last time I took from the Fishbowl in NY was around May. From memory (not 100% sure) it was $20 ST but don't hold me to it. Nice selection about 10 or 15 girls in the afternoon. Not really my thing but a nice change.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Because the fishbowl is in the hotel, do you know if it's possible to choose a girl and then have her come to your room (some soapie facilities are quite cramped)? Also, the girls were Cambodians? Vietnamese? Both?
[quote=roguesta]it's usually called 'yama', and contains a fair amount of meth amphetamine. it is smoked, and is very addictive. very bad stuff.[/quote]
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last week i picked up a pleasant faced lady from walkabout and took her back to flamingo. got into the room and she displayed a beautiful body as she headed for the shower.
when she came out she asked if i had any smoke. assuming she meant tobacco or pot i said no. she then asked me for $10 so she could go somewhere and she would be right back. yeah, been there.
when i declined, she pulled out a little tiny glass pipe and explained in very poor english that she needed some smoke.
at this point i gave her $5 to make my life easier, no arguments, and told her to get the hell out.
i have been around speed freaks before and i know they are completely unpredictable and easily get violent if they are out the drug and get frustrated.
hated to miss such a nice body but i like life in the easy lane. i will post some pictures when i get a good internet connection. that might be bangkok tomorrow.
having spent 3 weeks at flamingo i find that for $25 minus 10% for staying more than 15 days i got a bargain. the people are fun, the room is adequate and clean, and the security is good wthout being intrusive. they call when a girl leaves to verify it is ok.
[QUOTE=Roguesta]It's usually called 'yama', and contains a fair amount of meth amphetamine. It is smoked, and is very addictive. Very bad stuff.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I did not know it was meth. I have heard that is a very addictive and destructive drug. I've also heard a lot of Cambo working girls use it a lot.
LexLuther
Who knows address of Cathay Hotel in Phnom Penh? This is a small cheap hotel; I was there last year, and on the corner there was a pub with few girls, I took one 23 y. O. For 30$ and she gave me a good blow job, pretty body, and action, I need to return there but lost the address, this was ver close to the river, and buses to Sieam Reap, street number 114, 144 or 120, but I forgot, mayby 1 km north of american embassy; ver close to his hotel, on the same street is hotel "lucky rooms" whatever it means; does anybody know?
[QUOTE=Algol2000]Who knows address of Cathay Hotel in Phnom Penh? This is a small cheap hotel; I was there last year, and on the corner there was a pub with few girls, I took one 23 y. O. For 30$ and she gave me a good blow job, pretty body, and action, I need to return there but lost the address, this was ver close to the river, and buses to Sieam Reap, street number 114, 144 or 120, but I forgot, mayby 1 km north of american embassy; ver close to his hotel, on the same street is hotel "lucky rooms" whatever it means; does anybody know?[/QUOTE]
Hi Algol,
a search in the local yellow pages, yellowpages-cambodia.com, suggests #123 on St 110.
Hoping this is the one you were thinking of
Hawk
I don't want to sound unfriendly, but GOOGLE would have given all the info you needed.
Why bother the community with such trivia?!
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Cathay Hotel
N° 123-125, Ang Duong (St. 110)
12202 Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Tel023 722 471
Tel023 427 188
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[QUOTE=Roguesta]It's usually called 'yama', and contains a fair amount of meth amphetamine. It is smoked, and is very addictive. Very bad stuff.[/QUOTE]
For Walkabout rookies, there are TONS of girls there who are addicts. I would think that most of the girls who frequent there during the day are.
Just a quick post
Shanghai bar i had 2 girls from there LT $30
Walkabout is a dump stay away horrible girls look in bad health
Good Luck
Thanks for answer
I asked because whenever I tried to find using google, I found many cathay Hotels around the world, in China, Hong Kong, Fiji, Malaysia, Slovenia, Lithunania, everywhere except Cambodia, so I aksed here, luckily I kno wnow;
Close to this hotel I found a pub with lovely girls, I don't remember the name, nice sexy girls were there, so I wanna go there again, mayby will be in PP in few next days;
Can you tell me which pubs I should avoid now? Something changed from last years and what was good now can be worthless, where is this Shanghai bar and Walkabout? Adressess needed; and whee I can buy original Kamagra in PP, real, original, not sugar or flour or panadol pills in kamagra box, and how it works?
Thanks guys
you didn't try very hard because googleing "cathay hotel cambodia" it's the FIRST THING THAT POPS UP ON THE GOOGLE LIST
same thing "cambodia cathay hotel"
so lets not try to spread BS about not finding it...