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Hi Guys, Osaka for sex: seems to be difficult in Japan anyway for foreigners because they do not accept foreigners in so many nice places for sex we want to get in but they are only for japaneses. Anyway, you can try to call the numbers on advertisings photo cards put on telephone boxes, street lamps etc ., you easily recognise them. Let a Japanese call there and negotiate. Good agencies started to accept also foreigners, I tried twice , the girls came to hotel, good service with BJ, licking all over the body and good fucking, I was satisfied and the girls, japaneses, were rather acceptable pretty, ranking 6-7. Price was 17.000 Yen (around 150 USD) for the first and 20.000 Yen (about 170 USD) for the second girl , acceptable for Japan and I enjoyed anyway !

so i was going thru the archives about osaka and i hit upon one article talking about "tennoji" area. if you been to the rld in yokohama, this is almost the same....but this place is 10 times better...of course it's a little more expensive, about 15,000.

as a recap, from osaka station take the osaka loop line "a", it's 170 yen to shin-imamiya (this stop is one staion before "tennoji station") get out the east exit.......read this link it has a map and tells you exactly how to get there....

http://www.**********.com/japan/nws/tobita/

you have to walk a bit down the shopping arcade even past the end of it.

i went today between 3-4 pm, i thought it being sunday and early that only really old and fat women would be available.......and yes these women were there...but i hit on a small street, past the overhead expressway that had the most beautiful japanese girls (10's in my book), they were the typical j-gal, ko-gal types.....slim, petite, tall, small tits, tigt ass, and young.

so the old mama-san flags me down to her store...and i told her i was an american and if it was ok, mama-san said no problem..but asked if i understood the rules (i am asian american, don't know if that influenced anything, but some other japanese places won't even let asian foreignors in)

the girl i picked was 22 y.o. brown hair about 5'4", petite, b-cup, and so tight, teeth was a little messed up, but hey i'm not kissing her anyways. this girl could have passed as a high school girl...if she didn't have all the yakuza tattoos.

i paid 15,000 for 20 min, she kept trying to push the 30 min plan for 20,000, i gave her the money for the 20 min plan, she gives it to mama-san and she brings back tea and candy for me (it"s included in the 15,000).....then down to business.....there is no wash room just a lot of wet naps, she wipes you down, there is no bbbj. her oral skills are so-so.....now this is the sucky part, i wanted to do certain positions but she said no (i wanted her to ride me) i don't know if it was because i paid for the cheapest plan. so i only got doggy and missionary....but it was still good.... the thrusting.....she was really tight to bang, there are some girls that i have tried and there was no friction........

anyway i finished got dressed up, talked a little, she has no english whatsoever. as far as other foriegnors, i did see a white dude cruising in his car, don't know if he lives there or not.....but rile of thumb....if mama-san calls out to you, then it's aight.

another thing, the neighborhood you walk thru to get to this place...is really slummy, it smelled like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], there are bums all around, and the old men on bikes tried to run me over. but once you get to the brothels areas, it's clean.

i've never tried picking a sw near umeda or namba, but i think this place is better.

Checked out the gaijin-friendly Hadaka Osama (naked King) the other day. It's just a 10 minute walk from Umeda JR/Hankyu station. The catch is that you must speak some Japanese or they will turn you away. Also, they in the explanation they said in Japanese "all nude, hands are free to roam, BBBJ" then in English "NO SEX, NO FUCK"

I had previewed the list on the website, provided by some helpful poster a few months ago on this board under the Tokyo heading:

[url]http://www.hadakano-ousama.com/next_index.html[/url]

None of the girls I was after were on at that time, but they recommended RIA as a great girl with nice tits and good service. I paid 8900 (7900+2000 for choosing girl-1000 discount internet coupon) for 30 minutes. If I had waited until 5pm it would have been 7900 (5900+2000 since no internet discount during that time period. The rates are slightly higher than some other places, but the quality of the girls seemed better than average, and you do get a private booth with 3 walls, bed and curtain.

She came and got me after 10 min. wait. 156/86/56/87 is a very nice size for a J-girl: not too big, but not too skinny either. Great attitude and smiled a lot. Body nice and firm, although she admitted she wasn't the 21yr old listed on the board (more like 23-25).

Offered a drink, then washed my privates and hands with some disinfectant. She kissed very well, lots of moaning etc... and then got into 69. Lots of slurping, moaning and very enjoyable! We were done at the 20minute mark (before the bell), and chatted a little before I was out the door with a big kiss at exactly 28min.

Also, she told me that we are allowed to come as much as possible during the time period. And she gave me a card with her name on it, good for a free 5min. extra the next time I asked for her. She also wrote a little message on the back saying she'd had a good time, although one word I couldn't make out-does anyone know what "totemo SURAKI na jiki deshita means? Maybe it's some kind of Kansai slang.

What about Tobita? It is near Tennoji station and your ladies are there for the waiting. I'm in Tokyo, but can someone in Osaka go down that way and report?

You have to go toward the streetcar tracks from Tennoji station - I remember that much. Then you have to meander through a small shotengai, then it will spit you out near Tobita. It is like a 10-square block of women who, for Y10,000, will make you bust your nut and turn you into a very happy camper.

Very similar to the Hinodecho area of Yokohama. Anyway, if you're tired of the bull in Umeda, go down to Tobita and check it out.

Happy hunting!

Well, duh - now that I read d-lite me's post...Tobita has been discovered.

I think D-lite ran into a bad one. When I lived in Kansai, there were a couple of women who would just do everything except a handstand during your session - and it cost Y10,000 for 40 min. Of course, that was in 1994.

Shazam Dude...inflation man...plus the girl was very top notch pretty...maybe some of the older or larger ladies are cheaper.

still better off to save your money and go to HK or thailand and boom boom there. though girls there can't squeel like a japanese girl!!

g'day hounds, hope someone can help me.......I am on my way to Beijing to visit my new Chinese wife, hmmmm she is another story..... and I am staying overnight in Osaka , just in the airport at Kensai, I stayed there last time I went to China and I noticed they had a massage service but I was just so bloody tired I fell asleep and didn't avail myself of the service, my question is do they normally provide just a straight massage or do they give specials??? any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Hello, all!

I'm heading to Osaka the week of 6/9 staying at the Nikko in downtown. Any suggestions for 'massage and more' for a guy who does not speak Japanese are really appreciated.

In advance - thanks!

BL

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fcrus
[i]Hello, all!

I'm heading to Osaka downtown. Any suggestions for 'massage and more' for a guy who does not speak Japanese are really appreciated.

In advance - thanks!

BL [/i][/QUOTE]

Try checking out the SW girls at night hanging around the Tokyu Inn (about 500m SE of Hankyu Umeda station). Also, in the covered arcade running behind the Tokyu Inn is Hadaka Osama-see my previous post for more info.

Be sure to report in on your successes (and failures)!

Hey Fcrus, if you got the time and the gumption..try Tennoji (U can take the Osaka Loop line for this)area.

It's more of in-house FS..20 min action. It's been a year since I've last been around there, but you can check my old post about it. Have fun!!!

Had some success in the area called Shininbahsi (spelling is probably very bad); just walking the restaurant and club lined streets girls would engage asking "Massagi?'. After a few of these most flattering gestures one of the girls really caught my attention. She was absolutely beautiful with a great smile. 20,000 yen and an hour later at least I left very satisfied.

Where was this place - gosh - its so hard to say - the streets in this area are all filled with many nite clubs and places to eat. Just walk up and down a five to six block area and I'll bet you will be approached at least three times -easy.

It was fun.

@ Fcrus:

Do you mean Shinsaibashi? Like Heart-Worship-Brigde (¿´ºØ¶¶ - don't know if the kanji will work...) On the Midosuji Line and the Nagahori-tsurumi-ryokuchi Line?

netter,

Yes, you have the spelling and location correct. Happy hunting :))

FCRUS... when you were approached by the SW's in Osaka, did they insist on going to their place? Or did you take her back to your hotel? I too am a non-Japanese speaking white guy (Mandarin is no problem, but that doesn't help in Japan too often!), so any other advice you can offer from your visit will help.

Thanks!

Hi folks, thank you for the indications posted here. I went to Tobita and to the naked king and had some great fun there. Tried Shinsaibashi, too, but didn't find any action there.

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Tobita: You can find instruction for getting there and even a map on The Nationwide SUKEBE Japan, see http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/nationwide.html and look for the link to Tobita Shinchi. I went around 6 p.m., because I red somewhere that is might be unsafe for foreigners after sunset. There is a whole neighborhood with houses have an older mamasan and a young girl sitting inside there house and looking out on the street. Most of the girls are very cute and you can find all different types. Unfortunately not all offer there services to foreigners. Some will call you when you walk by, so you know that it is ok. I tried a few who were very very goodlooking, but where the mamasan didn't invite me right away. I got turned away each time (even though the girls were giving me inviting smiles, it's the mamasan who makes the decisions, it seems). But in the end I found a nice girl whose mamasan invited me. I didn't need much Japanese to negotiate that I would pay 16.000 for twenty minutes. I wasn't fluent enough to negotiate what these 20 minutes comprise, but it turned out that the consisted ot a cup of tea with crackers, a covered blow job, her riding me, me banging into her in missionary position, and a nice little chat after sex. I can only recommend it to anybody visiting Osaka. Even you don't go into any of the house, just to walk around in Tobita is already quite an experience. I didn't expect that this kind of thing still existed in Japan. It should be mentioned in any serious travel guide... :)

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Hadaka no ousama:
Later in the evening I went to the Naked King - Hadaka no Ousama. Directions can be found on their web site, see http://www.hadakano-ousama.com/next_index.html . You can also print a little coupon which gives you a 1000 yen discount. I saw other similar places on the same street, but didn't try if they accepted foreigners. I paid something like 5900 yen for 20 minutes with Minami. The guys at the entrance ask you if you speak Japanese, but their standards are not very high. They mainly want to make sure that you understand that the girl only offer oral sex, no intercourse. For an additional fee you can pick the girl, but I didn't do this. They told me to wait and after a few minutes Minami came, introduced herself, and took me to a small room with a bed and a mirror. She also made sure that I was aware that she only offered oral sex. Then we undressed, she thoroughly washed me, we did some French kissing, sixty-nine, etc. all uncovered, until I came into her mouth. A little chat afterwards, she gave me her card and asked me to come back. On the way out the guy at the door asked me to fill out a questionaire about customer satisfaction and gave me a coupon worth a 1000 yen discount for the next time. By the way, the price includes a drink, you can choose between tea and whisky. I was very satisfied and would go back immediately, but unfortunately I don't come to Osaka very often.

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After these two adventures I took a drink some place and then headed to Shinsaibashi to find fcrus's street walkers, but wasn't successful.

Anyway, it was a great day and I hope I get to repeat it some time.

Saw Minami (same girl as in post below). Posted her photo in Gallery section.

For 60 minutes I paid 12,000 (discounted from 15,000 due to website offer this month) +2,000 for the phone reservation. Total 14,000.

Great kisser, beautiful NATURAL tits (unlike most westerners these days), toned athletic body and fine attitude. She speaks a bit of English apparently if your Japanese isn't up to par.

Did 69 for the first round, then mutal masturbation (like simulated f*cking where she rides you but holds your dick next to her c*nt rather than inserting it). It was my first time doing it this way, and I'd give it a go again. Third round was a quick BJ-she was impressed I came on time (at the 50min mark a bell went off).

Any girl who get get me off 3 times in 50 minutes deserves a fine recommendation.

There is another place that is foreign-friendly in Umeda Osaka. The tout spoke decent English to me as I was walking by and we had a chat. Penthouse is about 10-20m to the west of Hadaka No Osama, then turn south and walk 5-10 meters. Didn't go in on account of being drained my Minami.

Nice to know we are wanted...

Nice lip service. Went to a place in Umeda called Princess downstairs basement. It`s in the entertainment district just to the S/E of Umeda Station. I`ll try and find a map later to its apx. locale.

Saw the sign for a 4,000 yen for 25 minutes (11am-2pm?). Escorted into a dark flourescent room and in came Kana. Made to get completely naked (her too). Lots of touching, DATY, CBJ, and sumata (simulated intercourse w/o actual insertion). Could also hear a lot of action in the next booth.

Kana was about a 6/10, 5`3" shoulder length brown hair w/ pointy c-cups w/ nice attitude. Okay technique but she could have used more energy near the end.

They knew I was a foreignor when I walked in, so they do let in gaijins (at least in the afternoon). Tried to leave a little tip for the girl but she adamantly refused to take it. 4000yen total for a nice "lunch".

I thought that Minami was the only girl who saw foreigners at Hadaka no Osama. Am I wrong?

But anyway,

Long time reader first time poster.

Saw Minami at Hadaka and she was very nice. She speaks English very well, but for getting in the door Japanese is helpful.

Have also been to Tobita a few times. A lot of the fun there is just walking around and window shopping.

Wish the Osaka board was as busy as the Tokyo board, but I guess I am part of the problem because I haven't posted till now.

Osaka Brian

I'm almost positive all the Hadaka girls are on the menu for gaijin, since the guys have always asked me to take my pick. I suppose if one didn't want to, then she'd be "busy" or absent, but the place seems pretty friendly and gets quite a few of you "lurkers" out there.

Thanks lion.

Very interesting. I will have to try that next time I am in the area.

Lunchtime action in Juso.

Stopped in to a fashion health club called Ai-Mode (Love-Mode). The tout showed me the price sign - 7,000 yen / 30 minutes but I haggled down to 6,000 yen / 30min and lucked out. Cheap and uncrowded in the mornings/afternoons.

A cutie hottie named Mako- nice attitude, perky b-cups, 5'4" (162 cm), 110 lbs (45 kg?) steps into the tiny curtained off bed space. She wipes me down and we begin some DFK and 69, but she wouldn't break the law and go FS. Didn't matter, BBBJCIM while 69ing gave me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

She mentioned that foreigners frequent the place so it's a go if your a gaijin. She was glad I could speak Japanese and didn't have a hairy back or chest.

The place is west of Juso Station on the Hankyu Line. Go out the west exit of the station and cross the large intersection at the light. Go down the Sakae-machi arcade westward and its on the 2nd or 3rd corner on your right.

Thruster:

Nice to see some accurate info about gaijin friendly places in Kansai. Keep it up (the good work that is)!

Hadako no Oosama!

I went there for the first time, actually live in Tokyo and had an event in Osaka and thanks to all the reports here I decided to give it a shot while I was there. I called 2 days in advance and made a reservation for the Harem Course. Picked 2 girls for an hour. I wanted to have Rina, but was told she had quit and hardly ever comes. I picked Risa, and then Minami (since so many people have had nice things to say). Risa, who does not show her face on the web site, was petit and very pretty. Minami is just a very funny chick who had me laughing the whole time. I lived in Osaka for 10 years in the past, and it had been a while for me to talk with Osaka girls so I had almost as much fun talking to them as getting serviced. In the end Risa got me off with her mouth and let me go inside, uncovered, though she did now swallow.

I have never done a 3P before, in private or otherwise, and I must say it was really fun. The girls had there own little system going and worked in tandem very well. Would definately go back and do the 3-some again.

As for the Japanese language question. According to Risa, when it is a 3P she is more than willing to take Gaijin clients, but if she is alone and the person speaks no Japanese she likely will refuse. however, most of the girls are willing to take Gaijin without much reservation.

I've been to the oft-mentioned Hadaka No Osama once, and plan to return as soon as I get the chance. The place has a lot going for it.

First, it's easy to find. From Umeda/Osaka station, just find the covered shopping arcade. Hadaka No Osama is close to its end on the right hand side. Look for the green signs.

Second, the doorman can speak English, or at least the one who was there when I visited could. With it, he could greet me kindly and explain the house rules (basically no FS and no beating up the girls).

Third, the price is okay. I forget how much it ran me exactly, but I do remember that it was less than 10,000yen (and I could choose the girl).

Fourth, it's gaijin-friendly. Not 100% however. When I visited, I was told that only three of the girls present would service foreigners - the oft-reviewed Minami, Keiko (if memory serves correct), and a new-at-the-time girl named Kaori. I was told that the first two would be busy for another half-hour, so I went with Kaori.

Kaori was very cute and petite. Small tits, no butt, but smooth skin, a pretty face and tight little body. She greeted me really kindly and led me into her chamber, which was the usual closet-sized, thin-walled room with towel-covered futon and long mirror mounted low so you can get an "alternate angle" on your action. It had a long curtain instead of a door. We chatted, she wiped me down with heaps of tissues and anti-bacterial liquid, then delivered a good BBBJCIM.

Fifth, upon leaving your get a discount card worth 500-1500yen (depending on which course you choose) off your next visit.

And sixth, it has that Harem Course option. If you haven't already, check their website for pictures. Has anyone other than Slick Willy tried it? Is it as good as it looks?

Trotter,

You can put Mandarin to excellent use in many of the clubs where Chinese work. Massage girls are also typically Chinese, although I've been told some are Korean (I have yet to meet one who wasn't Chinese).

If nothing else, a lot of the touts in places like Shinjuku (Tokyo) are Chinese and can get you into some of the Japanese places (they tend to know which ones will accept gaijin, but it's still hit and miss). I'm sure Osaka has similar touts, although I will be finding out next time.

after much waiting, i broke down and gave the harem course a go at hadaka no osama.

price: listed at 23,500/60min + 4,000 to pick 2 girls. i got a coupon off the internet, so it was 21,000, and for 2,000 more i could have picked the girls, but i knew which were working, so i thought i'd save a little and take my chances.

note: taking a chance on the girl can result in a beauty, but i think generally the best looking ones reserved for guys who are willing to pay a little more to choose, and the mediocre ones go to the guys trying to save a little cash.

after a 5 minute wi****wn, you get about 45 minutes of play, then the timer goes off and you have 10 minutes to get cleaned up and dressed. i think 60 minutes is necessary for a couple pops, but 30-40 would do if you were only going for one.

the only special instructions were to keep track of which hand was exploring which girl's privates, and not to get mixed up.

the girls i was given were yui (23) and kaori (24). they had contrasting bodies, which was nice. neither was very cute in the face (an orthodontist could make a fortune here), but both their bodies were very fine, and they were nice and friendly, semi-gfe i'd say. yui was definately less experienced, and she said this was her first 3-some. she is slightly taller than average and very well proportioned, with an impressive, perky rack that would please any guy.

kaori is a smaller girl with a very typical j-body: small tits, no fat, but not bony, with a perfect, tiny ass. her technique was outstanding, and she obviously was a pro.

i wasn't able to get sumata or any lez action-but all in all it was a good time and i managed 3 pops.

this was a first for me, and while having 2 girls is every man's dream, there is a lot to be said for having just one to concentrate on at a time. on the other hand, if the pair has worked together (these 2 had not), i think the exeperience could be incredible.

Here is Kaori's photo.

Great report Lion. I will be heading Osaka way at least once later this year and probably twice or more, so will definitely give them a try.

Was looking forward to seeing the photos of Yui and Kaori, but maybe there is a problem with them? I don't know if they have to be posted in the photos section or what.

Had a couple of good times at Koala in Juso.

It's a fashion health (bbbjcim but no fs).

Had a nice encounter with Hina a few weeks ago. 18 and got pretty wet just getting fingered. A little round but not fat w/ a good attitude.

It's obvious that I'm a foreigner but I'm part Asian and can speak a bit of the language, so I was let in. You might want to give it a try.

In the afternoon they had a discount for 4,900 yen for 20 minutes. Their homepage is: http://www.juso-coara.com/index2.html

Good luck

Passed through the Kansai area and had a surprisingly nice time at an este. Although they also have Chinese girls, I was given a "100% Japanese". She was the only one working in the afternoon apparently.

I took the "special course=all nude sumatra included" 15,000/60min, reduced to 13,000 thanks to an internet coupon.

Kana is a petite 25yr old (155cm/43kg). She gave an excellent back, foot and leg massage for 35 minutes, then stripped down for a bit of sumatra, and finished with a CBJ. Total time about 55 minutes. No FS discussed, though I wonder if she might be willing for regular customers.

Nice girl, fun talking to, and I got the impression she likes sex a lot. Lots of questions about Western guys (I was her first).

Stopped by Hadaka No Osama last week. It was my second experience there, and again, it was a good one. There's some info on their website however, and some things that have been written about on the forum, that might be a bit misleading.

1) There is a staff member who speaks English, but he's not always there, so be sure to know a few key phrases before going.

2) The website lists a 20minute course, but I was told it wasn't available.

3) Unless you specify that you want to choose your girl (2000yen extra), she'll be chosen for you.

4) The first 5 minutes of any session is spent getting wiped down, and the last 10 are reserved for getting dressed. Therfore, if you go for a 30 minute course, you only get 15 to play.

On my last visit, I arrived and requested a 20 minute course. Told it wasn't available. Fine. Went for the 30 minute course. Staff guy asks me to sit down and wait. I'm expecting him to bring out the photos of the girls, but he doesn't. I wait about 5 minutes. Finally, he comes out and tells me that my girl is waiting!

I can hear that she is waiting just behind the entrance curtain, so I whisper to him that I was hoping to choose a girl. He says I still can, but it'll cost me 2000yen. I ask him, again whispering, which girl is waiting for me. He tells me it's Kaori, who I had last time. Since my last session with her was good, and she's ready, I go with her.

Again, Kaori is a friendly girl, very slim and petite. We chatted as I undressed, she washed me down with tissues and anti-bacterial spray, then we started deep-kissing. I sucked gently on her small breasts, but when my hand started moving downward, she warned me "Tampon". Fine. I laid back and she delivered a very nice BBBJCIM.

Not bad at all for 7900yen.

Am gonna be in Osaka starting this saturday for a few days - and of course eager to try out Japanese Sukube. (Have also already read and printed out the Sukube pages for referrence when I get there.)

On the other hand, Any body can give me further pointers in Osaka? Have already read all the posting on this Osaka Section and figure out that this Hadaka no osama...?? seems to be the best bet as a start Unfortunately, the web addresses given no longer works - doe this place still exist? Any new web link?

New address for Hadaka's website:

http://www.hadakano-ousama.com/top.html

SE Asia Joe - Let us know how it works out for you! Looks like I'll be in town during the 1st 2 weeks of August.....any pointers or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Chikan

Dear Fiver and Members,

Thanks for the lovely info.

I am planning to go to Hadaka No Osama this Wednesday.

You mentioned about knowing a few Japanese key phrases.

Could you please give some pointers on the phrases as I only know how to greet in Japanese.

Also, what time is the best time to go visit? Is the place always full?

Thanks in advance.

Hey fellas,

Got a question for anyone who has faced this before. Met a few regular girls in Japan on my last trip and have invited them over one at a time to stay in my house for short vacations. A couple of them have told me that single women from japan traveling alone get the third degree from immigration about their reasons for coming here. I thought only citizens from poorer countries got this kind of treatment, but they swear it happens. They even talk about some website where Japanese people vent their frustrations about immigration hassles here.

Can anyone recommend the best thing for her to say upon arrival? Should she just tell the truth that she is visiting a friend (male) and let the chips fall? Or should she say she will be at a hotel and visiting a japanese girlfriend who lives here? Any other ideas?

Thanks fellas,

Mikster

IT ALL WORKED OUT BEAUTIFULLY!

All you need to do is to print out the web site with the discount coupon - and you're at least half way there. I got the directions to go to this place thru the Sukube site and when I got there, I just showed them the web pages I had printed out. I pointed out to the Yen7,900 and the 1,000 discount and paid them the Yen 6,900 - and then they gave me a number!! waited a few minutes and the guy then produced a bunch of cards/papers with Japanese/English written on it. - said the rules of the game - especially no sex/no fuck and then was escorted in. Gal was quite noisy in Japanese but I understood Whisky - which she went out and got for me. Then it was to strip and then she went ahead and sprayed foam and alcohol and water and ??? and cleaned me up good on all parts that she was gonna kiss and lick in a while - and boy!! Did she kiss and lick and suck - she got all stripped down and I could do anything with here EXCEPT F.S. - so here she goes down on me, Bare back whilst I fingered and probed every orifice she had! And when I came, I cannot believe it but SHE SWALLOWED it all!
ALSO - Cannot believe that it was all so cheap in Japan! Heck approx US$60 to get a young Japanese Gal to give you a BBBJCIM - which she actually swallowed? Incredible bargain for Japan IMHO! - although I did worry about the time - just 30 minutes for my Yen 6,900 - but I manged to come 'on time.'

Was back there a couple days later and did even better - I was looking at my watch the whole time and managed to come 'right on the dot' at 30 minutes!

Recommended and IMHO, very gaijin friendly from the bilingual pieces of papers!
BTW, also visited another 'brothel area' in Osaka which I will write about later.

SE Asia Joe

SE Asia Joe,

I tried to read the web site you went to and was difficult to understand since its all in Kanji. Can you please tell me what subway exit and general directions for your place.

Thanks

SE Asia Joe,

Glad to hear everything worked out.

Did you catch the name of your girl? How did her looks measure up to her service?

Gregorio,

read the directions on the Osaka pages of - http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/nationwide.html

Its also got a ton of other info on how to get it all in Japan - great web site, all in English and catering to Gaijins!

Tobita Shinchi:

This area really rounded up my 'Japanese experience". I estimate 50 - 100 houses next to each other in a 4 or 5 block area. Each house has the front entrance all open and it looks like a 'Japanese Painting/picture. Imagine the typical aesthetically beautiful Japanese room with a girl all dressed up like little princesses sitting serenely center stage; a mamasan at her feet - rahter like her servant; Stage lighting, quite elaborate costumes, flowers - and you can imagine the beautiful Tableau. Tried a few places but got turned down for not being able to speak Japanese! Then I got inventive and showed the mamasan the blingual pages I printed out from the Sukube pages - the one that says things like "is BJ included", what services offered etc and I had her - and her girl - rolling around with laughter. That's when she said OK (at first 15,000 and then down to 11,000 for 20 minutes - as I showed her more stupid bilingual pages!). Now I have to tell you that its NOT the greatest sex experience of my life - but HEY - I felt great as at last I managed to get decent SEX in Japan - after how many visits?! And at 11,000 for full service - HEY - I really felt great that I managed it all. The 20 minutes part was tough and the girl - away from the stage lighting and without her costume went from a 9 to perhaps a 5 - but what the heck - I got decent full SEX in Japan. HOORAY!

SE Asia Joe

Hi, I will be travelling to Umeda in July. So is there any nice place to intro which allow foreigners who cannot speak Japanese to enjoy life there?

I have been to Umeda twice but cannot get any girl as those place does not allow foreigners. But, near to Umeda red light district, there is a lot of young girl standing besides the road sides looking for customers. I was told about 20,000 yen per shot. But they are not Japanese. Where can i find Japanese chicks for full services ?

Besides, is there any disco in Umeda where we can pick up Japanese girl?

Those of you wanting full service in Kansai (Osaka, Kobe, and Nara) may want to check out www.galsnetwork.com. It is a delivery health service that I have used a few times. While full service is technically not allowed, 90% of the time I have had no trouble getting it for an additional tip or sometimes just because they want to try out a Westerner. Be careful, some will insit on a condom for FS, but BBFS is very possible if you are into gambling with Mr. Johnson. All the girls are Japanese as well.

Also, if you want girls that are a hell of a lot better looking than Naked King, then try Coco's. They have stores in Sakaihigashi, Namba near the Dontonburi Bridge and another but I forget where it is. I have been to the two I mention and they are great for BBBJTCIM. Their web page is www.club-coco.com and has pictures of the girls and basic directions.

The main thing to remember with both of these places are that while they are Gaijin friendly, you still need to be polite and respectful. Don't go to Coco's drunk, you won't get in.

When calling for Delivery Health, basic Japanese helps. I didn't try calling for it till I ordered a pizza one night and suddenly realized if I could get a Large Super Supreme I could get a girl just as easy. Bone up on saying your telephone number and addresss in Japanese and you should be able to bone up on something else within an hour. Got to love a country where you can get a girl deliveried and not worry about being busted like back in the States.

Also, if you go to the Dontonburi Store, see Jun, she is a former Japanese porn star and gives an amazing hummer! Plus it is a bonus to watch a DVD at home and know that girl has swallowed your load as well.

These are just two of the best places I have been here. I am a permanant resident, and will try to post more soon. Got tired of lurking and thought I would help out. I have some pics, but they need to be resized. Anyone know of a free program to do it for Mac?

Will give you guys an update on window shopping in the Pink Light Disctict and the Thai and Latin Street Walkers in Umeda. Will do my best to let you know how to get full service since that is what most of you seem to be looking for with various degrees of success. It can be had, at the same rates that the locals pay, but you have got to know where to go.

If you have questions, PM me and I will try to help. I have been here four years, but my experience is limited mainly to Osaka, sorry for those of you going to Tokyo.

Just got home from work and thought I would add a bit more about a couple of places where you can get service from Japanese girls and a bar where the odds are stacked in your favor.

The first place is what I call the Pink Light District near Shin-Immamiya Station (both JR and Nankai service this station. Really good directions can be found on the Sukebe board mentioned in earlier posts.

A word of advice if you chose to visit is be extra cautious when going here. The Nishinari-ku area is considered the worst area in Japan and this is the heart of it. That being said, this is Japan and you should be safe, just remember that if something is going to happen to you, it will be here.

But if you decide to go for it, it is a one of a kind experiece as far as mongering in Japan goes. I have not really seen anything like it anywhere else in Japan. If you have been to the Red Light District in Amsterdam, you get the general idea of the set up, but instead of glass windows, you get open doorways with pretty Japanese girls sitting on the floor with a Mamasan in front to negociate.

Now the best thing about this area is that you don't have to worry about the hit and miss of other shops. As you walk by, if the Mamasan talks to you, you are in. That simple. If she tries to ignore you, walk on by. I have had experiences where the girl was all smiles, and obviouslly wanted to play, but the Mamasan vetoed it.

So you braved to worst area in Japan, you found a Mamasan who is all smiles and laughs and now you are ready to play. Here comes the bad news. You are going to pay about \15,000 for 20 minutes of play. After having $5 ST girls in K11, this just seems nuts to me.

I have managed to get an hour of sex for the same price for a delivery health girl, so I now avoid this area. But, if time is short and you don't have the Japanese to order a girl over the phone, this is the best bet in Osaka for P4P.

Also want to mention that the Bar isn't it and the Sam and Dave's chain of bars are all famous as Gaijin pick up spots. Most of the girls who come here are looking for a Gaijin guy as a boyfriend or a quick fuck. My batting average in these places is enough to get my in Cooperstown. If you are decent looking, a halfway decent guy and willing to put in an evening getting the girl drunk, you will find your shoes at the foot of a love hotel bed in a matter of hours.

Even my friends who are not so lucky bat about .250 in these places, and except for the price of a few drinks and a love hotel, it is a freebie.

Just one more thing and then I will end this post. If you are looking for a great love hotel to play, give Hotel US a try. It is a chain, but I have only been to the ones in Namba and Kyoto. The one in Namba is located about 100 meters west of exit 24 (the one with the Starbucks downstairs) and is super nice. My favorite room is 805, which has a small swimming pool in the room. All rooms have king size beds, jacuzzi tubs and adult videos. Give it a go if you get lucky.

Member 1762,

I believe that on your last post on "the Pink Light District near Shin-Immamiya Station "- that you're talking about the same place - Tobita Shinchi - that I wrote about last week. Is this correct? If so, tell me if I was perhaps a bit of a romantic when I described the scene in each location as being a very "Aesthetic, Serene Japanese Tableau/Picture" Swear to God that that is how I felt about the scene there.

SE Asia Joe

SE Joe/memeber1762

Guys is that the area around Tennoji? It's also known as a very bad area and the chicks sit at the entrance with the mamasan hovering around.

Thanks

Yes - its close to Tenoji park - at least that's where I went to (not quite sure where member 1762 was writing about - thus my question to him). And this is what is written in the Sukube guide about this place -

"..The average income in the surrounding districts is probably the lowest in Osaka. Crime rate is high. So, I recommend you to go earlier at about 5PM. I do not recommend to go there late at night. Drunken guys might cause problem with you. Best going with your friend. DO NOT bring your camera. Photographing in the district is strictly PROHIBITED..."

On the other hand I did NOT feel threatened or afraid or anything at the place (Though mind you, I did go in the afternoon at around 5 as recommended). Like all things and places in Japan, I did feel completely secure and the streets as far as I was concerned seemed to be neat, orderly, no drunks or gangster like guys lurking around - just picture window after picture windows of nice Japanese girls in a nice typically Japanese scene with their own individual mamasan clucking over her! Certainly it seems to be a lot safer than some streets of Shinsaibashi with the SW's and their pimps accosting everybody and the drunks piling out of the nightclubs etc.
SE Asia Joe

Yes, that is the place I was refering to. Shin-Imamiya is the JR and Nankai Rail Station nearest the area. You can also take the Sakaisuji Subway Line and get off at Dobutsumea Station.

You did the right thing by going in the daytime, it is a bit differant after dark. Of course I have never been in the daytime, so the scene may seem VERY differant then.

The directions on the Sukebe site are very good, and it is fairly easy to find if you use them. I guess the main reason I am so down on the area is the high price for rushed service and that at night it becomes one of the largest homeless colonies in Osaka.

Another quick rcommendation for guys having trouble finding fun would be to go to the places outside of Umeda and Namba. Juso seems pretty Gaijin friendly, as does the Sakai-Higashi area where the Club Coco Fashion Health that I recommended is located. Just remember, that the places not as busy are more willing to except your business.

Will post a few links for you guys later that could help. Lots of info on the web, since most Delivery Health places have sites as does the entire industry.

More later.

Last week I went to Shin-Immamya's Pink Light District for the first time. If you haven't been, I highly recommend checking it out - if not for the service, then purely for the experience.

The directions that have posted will get you there fine. It's not close to any one train station, and it is located in a very dilapidated residential neighborhood. I think this adds to the charm and mystique of it though.

The district is 4-8 sqaure blocks of identical shops. Each has a white paper lantern hanging in front and a carpetted entrance way where the mama-san sits with her "talent". There are mirrors at the entrance so the mama-san can see people approaching, and bright pinkish lights focussed on the girl, dressed sexily, sitting prettily on a cushion, a blanket over her legs.

I was there at around 4pm on a weekday. Many shops were closed, but there must have been around fifty that were open. The neighbourhood was very, very quiet. There are no houses, convenience stores, etc. in this district - just brothels. Therefore, there is no throughfare traffic, and the only people walking the streets are mongers. There were a few luxury cars and beefy vans cruising the blocks though - no doubt gangsters keeping an eye on their turf, making sure nobody is acting up.

About 70% if the mama-sans tried beckoning me over. The ones who didn't I wisely passed on by, even if their cute girls were giving me inviting looks.

As for the girls, there was something there for everybody: old, young, fat, thin, chesty - even some in schoolgirl and sterwardess uniforms.

I wandered the blocks "window-shopping" for ten minutes or so. When I'd finally chosen a girl, I approached the beckoning mama-san. She immediately asked, in Japanese, "Are you able to speak Japanese?". I answered "Yes". Next question: "Are you okay with using a condom?". "Yes" again. I asked about price and time, but she promptly told me that I was to discuss it with the girl upstairs. Removed my shoes, put on the slippers provided, and followed the smiling girl upstairs.

The room she led me too was surprisingly big, clean and well-lit. After I was seated on a cushion at a low table, she ducked out and returned with a tray of drinks (a can of tea) and snacks (peanuts and candy). She showed me her price list - service started at 11,000yen/15 minutes, then 15,000/20 minutes, and so on, up to 1 or 2 hours for a crazy amount of money. There was a sign on the wall saying something to the affect that 11,000yen was the standard starting price. I asked her politely if I could have 20 minutes for 11,000yen, and she readily agreed. She told me to undress and left the room.

Two minutes later she returned and directed me to lay down on the futon. She washed my private parts, slipped on a condom, and started an amazing BJ. After a couple minutes, she stood up and slipped off her lingerie. I sucked on her small tits a bit, then asked her to sit on my face, which she did and we started a nice 69. Another couple minutes passed and she asked "Do you want to be on top of bottom?". First she rode me for a bit, then we went missionary. I wanted to experience her great oral skills once more, so I pulled out, sat back, and she finished me with her mouth.

She told me her name was Sera - the name of a flower, apparently. Early-20s, cute face (some acne scars, but covered up with make-up), shoulder-length curly hair, slim sexy body, and one or two little tattoos. She was cheerful and sweet, trying her hardest to speak a bit of English with me, but could also be nice and nasty - she asked me if I wanted the light on or off when we got down to business, and had no problems with me rimming her during 69 or sucking her toes as we were going missionary.

She gave me the shop's phone number as I left and invited me back.

The service did seem rushed, but overall, it's not bad value. For 11.000yen, I got full sex with a cute girl (who I chose) in a large, clean, private room.

hi,
longtime user of the Seoul forums, and I will be heading to Osaka soon. Two questions:

1) I was wondering where can I get dvds like you can find at these websites: www.moodyz.com/www.dogma.co.jp
Specifically I am looking for the dvds which have several girls and one guy, there are a few of them on both those sites, is there a term for that type of video and does anyone know of any other sites where those videos are available? Any directions to a dvd shop would be most appreciated.

2) What are the best pick-up joints in Osaka, also where are they? Also I have found Korean girls to pretty easy to pick up in bars/clubs. Are Japanese girls as easy. Of course this is a generalisation, but in terms of known pick up places, will they give it up after a few drinks? Also any major differences in how to get Japanese girls in the sack compared to Korean girls?

--any info appreciated:)

Paddy,

1) Wander around any of the redlight "pink" districts and you'll find plenty of dvd shops. Search the forum for details of these areas. One area is about 400m SE of Umeda station near Hadaka No Osama.

2) Yes, Japanese girls CAN be easy to pick up, although "easy" for some is impossible for others. I think they are a bit less conservative than Koreans, but more passive as well, so you'll need to do all the work.
It depends on your talents...

Pick up a local English Mag called Kansai scene or Kansai Time Out at the Kinokuniya bookstore in Umeda/Osaka station and just go to the places they recommend. "Sam and Dave" have about 5 shops that can be really fun. Bar Isn't It? is also a pickup joint.

Good luck and be sure to report back.

Hi there,

I've been to Osaka last summer for a very short visit (see my report on Tobita Shinhi and Hadaka no Oosama last September) and plan to come (?!) again in about one month.

I speak a some Japanese, enough for some small talk, and would like to try my luck at "Nampa". I won't be there more than one or two days though. Do you think it is possible? I am mid thirties, average looking, tall, not fat. Also, can anybody give me directions how to find the best places, since I won't have much time to look for them.

Many thanks in advance!

Been a while since my last post and thought I would add a little more info.

As far as the best pick up spots, Sam and Daves`s, Pig and Whistle, the Hub, and Bar Isn't It in Namba are all pretty good bets. It can be easy to get a girl to go with you to a Love Hotel, but it is not a sure thing and is up to each person to pull it off as best he can.

For those who are interested in the street scene, the best bet is in Umeda across the main street from the Tokyu Inn. There is a shrine, and if you walk along the south wall, you will enter a entertainment district.

There are two groups, Thai's and Latin's, with each group in a differant location. The Thai girls are along the east wall of the shrine, which borders a row of love hotels. The Latin girls are about a block south in a alleyway with two love hotels.

I know these directions suck, but if you take exit 15 from the Whiny Underground Mall, and turn right at the alley before the convience store, you will walk right up to the Latin girls who will be in the first alley to the left. If you then walk up the left alley two streets, it will T off next to a hotel coffee shop. Turn right, walk up one street and the Thai girls are on the left.

OK, I am terrible at giving directions. If you are in Osaka and want to go and think my directions suck, PM me and I will give you a personal tour of the area.

The girls are \15,000 an hour. Make sure you say you want "ichi gikan" (one hour) or they will try to bolt after you cum. And do not pay till you finish. I find that they realize they can not take the money and run if they don`t have the money. You will also have to pay for the room which is \3000 to \5000 for the hour.

Most are above average, some are real diamonds in the rough. Occasionally you get lucky and find a real good one. I hooked up with a Thai girl who was about 4'8" and a real spinner here once. We ended up making a deal where she came to my place once a week for \10,000. I treated her nice and she became a real girlfriend experience, staying a few hours at a time and even overnight twice. I hated it when her visa expired and she had to head home.

Which is another nice bonus about the girls in this area. Since they all have short term visas, the turnover is high. Fresh meat is always the best.

Will post more later. Monday is payday, so I plan to go out and play!

A map to go with Member #1762's descriptions of the Osaka street walking scene.

The #4 on the map is the Picadilly Movie Theater building.

If you go just to the east of this building (right of it on the map) you'll be in a very "happy place".

http://www.japantimes.com/images/movies/kita1.jpg

I had a failed attempt at DH a little while back-asked for a specific gurl and was told no problem, then went to the hotel and ordererd up. After an hour I called them and the guy said he'd check. Ten minutes later he said it would still be a while, so I gave up.

A few days later I called about 5 places-all would service me (perhaps my Japanese was short and abrupt enough they didn't know I was a gaijin). But all were saying I'd have to wait 1-2 hours. So I gambled on the one who said they had a girl who'd be there in 30 minutes.

Well, 55 minutes later she showed. Face was a 6/10, body 7/10. She did fit the my requested points of slender 84/58/86 and young (23) Opted for the 80minute course though. Paid 19,000 plus room (about 5,000 for 2.5 hours).

Took a shower and short bath together. Then some oral then sumata. Second round I thought we'd go for the real thing since we seemed to be almost there, but she said "against the rules" when I produced a condom. I don't know if a cash incentive would have pursueded her or not.

She was nice enough and I was just glad to be successful, but it is easy to see how it is a bit of hit and miss (but isn't it always...). US$200 for 2 goes is not cheap, but it is a good time in a nice hotel. Better than some tiny, dark and dirty pink salon.

In the spirit of Adventure, I wanted to give Coco's a try(recommended by the knowledgible Member #1762), but ran out of time. Plan B was to find a SW (latina or Thai) around the Shrine/Tokyu Hotel in SE Umeda. But afternoon is not the time to look for them, apparently, and I got distracted by a tout waving cards of pretty girls and the promise of 10,000/60min with 3 girls and all sorts of service.

WARNING: visit new shops at your own risk

I wish I'd followed that advice, as I was led into a place called SEERA (maybe SEENA) on the 3rd floor of a corner building filled with all kinds of salons, which on closer reading of the sign on the door on my way out was apparently an "este release"-maybe my mistake in thinking it was a normal BJ place. I am 90% sure these were not Chinese girls, as the accents were right on.

First girl is a well endowed D_O_G about 40 with a 4/10 face. She's sticking her ta-tas in my face and saying I should give her a tip of 2,000 since she will "gambare". She also is pushing the "adult course with a bed and many [undefined] options", which I decline-the less I do with her the better I am thinking.

She leaves, a better looking slender girl comes in (still no model, about 6/10 face, 7/10 body). She whines about how I won't pay a tip to the other one, and askes if I am sure I don't want to upgrade from the kiddie course I've apparently chosen.

She leaves then them both come back and tell me to lie down-something that is impossible on a bench that is only a meter wide and 30cm deep. The bigger girl sticks her tits in my face and starts moaning, the pretty one is playing with my dick, but just an HJ with COLD jelly. I try to get a look at what she'd doing and the big one CLIMBS ON ME and tells me to relax, which feels like a rugby scrum now.

At this point I am also getting a bit paranoid that I can't see my pants/bag/wallet.

I get back to a sitting position and ask about the nama BJ promised, full nude etc... A lot of run-around about how this shop/this course doesn't provide those services...The slender one does get a condom ifinally and tries a little oral BJ, but between all the chit-chat and whining about tips and cold jelly, nothing is happening down below now and I'm sick of the whole scene.

I put on my clothes and bolt after 15 minutes of this Pink Hell Experience-a lesson learned I try to rationalize.

Outside I spot the tout down the street and confront him. He says all the promise of pretty girls and great service was just "shobai-marking". I push a little more and he takes me back up to the place and I get a 50% refund. Not great, but at least a less expenseive lesson learned!

Then I head across the street to Hadaka, and after a 30 minute wait get a super GFE with 2 shots (sumata and BBBJ) and leave very satisfied.

The Japanese names of areas are rather unfamiliar to me. Can anyone tell me which RLD would be the closest/easiest (to find) from Namba? I will be in Japan for a very short time, and I want to maximize my time for hunting.

Thought I would add a little more after reading the last few posts.

First, an hour or two wait, especially when requesting a specific girl from delivery health, is not that uncommon. I have them just come to my house, so the wait is no big deal, but if you have to use a love hotel it can be a problem. My suggestion is that you get them to meet you outside and you get the room then. Will save you the extra time charge.

Want to add that I recently had a wonderful time with a girl from a delivery service who gave me BBFS (I know, its a dangerous crap shoot)for no extra charge. My place is a little hard to find, so I had to meet her on the street and walk her back to the building.

I knew she was nervous when I went to take her hand and she was shaking a little. We get inside and take care of details and jump in the shower. It was then I realize it was not nerves, but excitement that was making her shake, she let me enter her bareback in the shower and we rocked and rolled for the next hour.

Afterwards I asked her a few questions and it turns out I was only her sixth customer on her fourth day of work and the first she had sex with. And only the seventh guy in her life. She just wanted to try out a Gaijin and see how it was. Sometimes you get lucky. Tried to get her to meet me for free later, but she refused, saying work only, so not that lucky.

I sometimes ask for new girls, since most have only seen a few customers, many have never seen a gaijin, and the curious want to try it out. I tend to have much better luck getting full service, most of the time for free from these girls.

A previous post wanted to know the closest place to play in Namba. If you want a good BBBJ, then I suggest Club Coco's from my previous post. They have a shop in Dotonburi in the center of Namba. If you are wanting full service, then try the pink light district near Shinimamiya Station covered in one of my and many others posts. It is only one stop from Nankai Namba Station, so very close.

I do not really recommend the Pink Light District if you think you can get a delivery health girl in your hotel. The prices are high for the time there, Delivery is a much better bet for your money. I have had some really good times there, but it is always rushed. It is worth it to just walk around and checking out the stalls, I know of no other place in Japan like it.

Also in Namba, if you want to try your luck with regular girls, try "Bar Isn't It" or "Sam and Dave's". Both have a welcoming supply of Gaijin hungry J-girls, so it is up to you if you want to give it a shot.

Happy Hunting!

For a new experience, I stopped in at a Hotel health place in Umeda that specialises in Foreign Women.

Picked a Russian with a nice rack who was supposedly 24 (probably 29-32).

Spent about 5-10 minutes in shower at a love hotel, then lay back and let her work her tongue for about 10 min, then slipped on the Jimmie Hat for the next 10 min or so. I have pretty good control, and was taking my time to get to the peak, and she whispered if I wanted to have sex. I said yes, she then said it'll cost more, and I gave no reply, as I couldn't really figure out what to offer, and I didn't want to get caught up in the extra charges question in the middle of a session. I'm not sure if 2 pops were an option, they usually are with J-girls, but I hate going off early and then having the provider run out before time is up (the case with many SWs).

She did have great technique with the CBJ, and her body was a nice change from the J-girls (which I prefer generally).

We chatted (all this in Japanese of course) for another 10-15 minutes, and she said I could arrange a meeting and cut out the middleman. She later said FS was an extra 10,000, so perhaps she might take 15,000 for an hour.

The damage:
60 min. session=10,000
choose girl charge=1,000
hotel fee=3,000
total=14,000

Not a cheap CBJ, but having an attractive girl for an hour in a big, comfortable hotel room was nicer than being rushed in 20 min. in some tiny pink salon with girls you wouldn't want to be seen with in public.

Club Coco's, Dotunburi

Tried this salon for the first time last week and had a great time.

When I arrived at 12:30pm, it seemed busy. There were already two guys waiting in the lounge and the staff guys seemed occupied. I asked to see the album and was shown five pictures of girls I could choose from. Five! This is more than I've ever been shown at other salons. I was told that a couple of the girls wouldn't be available for two hours, another couple would be available in 30 minutes, and one was ready to go. One of the 30-minute girls, a pretty one named Shiho caught my eye. Opted for the 40 minute course and handed them the coupon I printed from their website (good for 500yen off the 2000yen album fee and a free drink). They handed me a number card and drink ticket. Waited in the lounge, reading magazines and watching soccer.

Shiho, who said that she was only helping out at Coco's that day and usually works elsewhere, soon came to escort me to her "work station". It was basically a cubicle - three walls and a curtain. Inside was an L-shaped seat and table.

Shiho was in her late 20s - pretty face, slim, nothing much in the way of tits or ass. We chatted a bit, undressed, washed down, then got to the action. Before the 40 minute bell rang, I got in 2 great BBBJCIMs and a bit of DATY. Her technique didn't have much variance, but it was amazing. The first BJ felf so amazing that when I finally shot, it just seemed to keep coming and coming. When I finished, she raised her head, spit my load into a tissue, and exclaimed "Ippai!!!". Gotta love that.

Compared to Hadaka No Ousama, Osaka's other gaijin-frequented salon, I'd say Coco's is on par or better. Both have convenient locations and the service and prices are similar. Coco's shop is cleaner and more modern, and the selection of girls is better. Hadaka, on the other hand, has fun options (Harem Course, costumes, etc.) and those nice mirrors in the rooms to let you watch your action from other angles.

Grand total was 10,500yen for 40 minutes, girl selection, and a drink.

Great Report Fiver! It is encouraging to know that there were real choices to be made, as a lot of these places only have 1 or 2 girls willing to service foreigners.

I am definately coming to visit Coco's next time.

Let's keep the details of these gaijin-friendly places in Osaka coming.

Hi all,

I am coming to Osaka and staying near Umeda next week. So any nice pubs where we can get any Japanese chicks?

Delivery Health Report,

Was in Osaka for a night last Friday and decided to call up a Delivery Health to get girls for my business partner and myself. We had rooms at the Ritz, and I was a bit worried that it would be hard for the girls to get in but there was no problem.

The shop I called is named Platinum, and is a higher end establishment. The reason I called them was singular - the girl who has listed as the recommended girl for the day was HOT. I didn't really expect to get her, but gave a call and was able to make the appointment without trouble. I do speak Japanese, and that was important I was told. In fact the girl told me later that they asked her when she arrived at the office if she was okay with Foriegners who spoke Japanese and she was.

This is the link to the shop.

http://www.osaka-platinum.com/index.html

I will not reveal the name of the girl I chose as I believe in individual tastes, and would not want to recommend someone who I think was great looking knowing others may not think the same. But many of the girls on the site a very nice looking.

The service was great (my business partner agreed saying his girl gave him much better service than expected). I decided to spend a bit of money (nice to be able to charge it back to the company) and had my girl stay for 5 hours. She was not willing to do FS, but she did anything else I requested without fuss.

I am one who likes the GFE type, and this girl was the best I have had in that regard. We talked a lot, kissed a lot, and had a hell of a good time.

If you can spend the money, and want a great GFE then call up Platinum.

I will be traveling through Osaka in October, with nearly a 6 hour lay-over between flights. Rather than sit in the airport, I wondered if there was a club nearby the airport with sauna, jacuzzi, and FS massge where I could kill a few hours? My experience with Osaka is strictly limited to changing planes in the airport, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Also, I realize this would require clearing Japanese immigration. Any particular problems there? Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Lancelot

Immigration at KIX is usually very easy with little wait, compared to Tokyo, in my experience.

With a 6 hour layover, you can easily take the Rapit train of Nankai line into the Namba area of Osaka. 30mins each way.

There are plenty of places for fun in the Namba area, and you can get back in plenty of time.

I would assume you would already have your onward boarding pass so wouldn't have to check in again, so you can just breeze thru security.

From touchdown to train will take 30 minutes or so. Trains are every 10-20 mintues, and to downtown Osaka another 30 so say 90 total to get to your destination-I recommend Namba.

For fast and full service consider Tobita:

http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/nationwide.html

Just beware that the airline will have a shit-fit and might have to return to the airport if you miss the flight and the bag is still on board (and you'll probably get put on a no-fly list after that), so leave at least 2 hours for the return trip to the airport.

Let us know how it goes!

Thanks for all the advice. I will definitely file a report here it I am successful. Forgive my ignorance, is Tobita a district in Osaka?

Find a map of Osaka and locate Tennoji Park. It's pretty close to Namba.

Lancelot,

If you carry a US passport, Immigration should be a breeze. If you carry an Iraq passport, better not leave the airport.

Hi all,

Which area will have more fun in Japan? Kobe or Umeda? Will be travelling there on coming Thursday. But still not yet confirm where to stay? Any good hotel to recommend with reasonable price in those happening night life area?

Thanks

I'm a white boy with a US passport. Thanks for the advice.

Hi all, please help. I need everyone help here. I will be reaching Japan tommorow. Staying at

Namba Oriental Hotel
2-8-17 Sen-Nichi Mae
Osaka, 542-0074
JP

Is there any night activities nearby? Any pubs or disco to recommend? I will be alone from Saturday ~ Monday. So please kindly recommend some pubs or disco where i can spend my lonely night. :)

Thank you

Afternoon shenanigans in Umeda.

Felt a little excited so I headed for Shin-Midosuji Street. Didn't have a lot of yens to throw around so looked for and found a gaijin friendly health that was pretty cheap.

First went to a place called Lips. In the basement at 4, 000 yen for 30 minutes. Unfortunately they had a 20 minute wait so I passed. So, Iwalked up 2 flights of stairs from the basement to the 2nd floor.

2nd place was called Bijin Rakuen (Beauty Paradise). It was a hundred yen cheaper at 3, 900 for 30 minutes (before 6pm) - lucky me. After a 2 minute wait I was led to a small booth with a small futon on the floor by Hitomi (early 30's - 5'4" - b cups - shoulder length hair with a friendly smile).

The action - 5 minutes of DFK while playing w/ her hole, 5 minutes of cowgirl on my face w/ finger in hole, 10 minutes of BBBJ cim. A nice giggle and a smile as she spit out and cleaned up.

If you speak Japanese, the experience with her is relaxed and friendly. I also had a complimentary beer and refill as I chatted with her.

-- Map To get there: Walk south of #4 on the map (Picadilly Movie Theater) on Shin Midosuji. Walk across to the otherside (west side) at the first little light. Continue south for about 30 yards/meters - it's on the right. (The signs are in kanji. Kanji won't come out on this forum. Ask a Japanese the kanji for "bijin rakuen" and check out the expression on their face: )

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I will be in Osaka for one day and staying at the Hotel Nikko Kansai Airport. Is there any action near by (Soap land, etc.) or are there escorts that I can call. I recall an escorts web site in Osaka, but a few days ago, they dropped Osaka and only service Tokyo and Narita.

NY Jimmy,

If you take the Nankai line from KIX into Izumisano (2nd stop), there is a place about 3 mins walk east of the station called Blue Sky. It was there a few months ago. It's a cabaret club, but if you are caucasian it will be tough. In another building a minutes walk away is a Filipina club. Can get some covert action but not full service.

You would be much, much better off IMHO taking a train into Namba. Tons of reasonably priced action.

And, if you order up an inroom massage from your hotel, its almost a guarantee you'll be offered 'service', i.e. HJ.

Found no love in Juso last Sunday afternoon.

I approached four or five touts on Sakae-machi and was politely refused by all.

Just as I was about to give up, I was waved over by one. The shop may have been Ai Mode which Thruster reviewed earlier - the location and prices seem to match. Prices on the menu started at 7000yen for 30 minutes,and he told me I could get FS by tacking on 10,000yen. We agreed on 30 minutes for 6000yen. When I asked to see photos, he said he didn't have any, but all his girls were young and pretty. Already I'm suspicious.

Led to a curtained-off cubicle containing a make-shift bed and I start undressing. A homely, dumpy, nervous middle-aged housewife in a short nightshirt walks in. I start to get dressed and ask to see the tout. A minute later a different tout arrives with my 6000yen, handing it to me while apologizing and asking that I try them again when there are more girls working.

Gentlemen,

A few weeks ago I asked for advice on how to spend a 6 hour lay-over at KIX. I was advised to head for Namba, and with the assistance of a kind JAL flight attendant who pointed me to the right train, etc., I went to Namba. When I got off the train, I had no idea where to go so just followed the crowd. I ended up across the street in those little streets or alleys. I know I missed something, because I kept seeing those signs that I think were rates for short-time hotels. I also saw posters of women, but nobody spoke English so I got nowhere. I went into a place that said "Internet" and ended up in a little room with pictures of women on every wall, and catalogs of women on the tables. Again, the guy couldn't speak English, so I left. I followed a guy into another storefront with a half dozen computers and watched them look up more women, but still no English, so still no joy! I know there was something going on, but I felt pretty stupid. What did I miss???

[QUOTE=Lancelot]Gentlemen,

. I ended up across the street in those little streets or alleys. but still no English, so still no joy! I know there was something going on, but I felt pretty stupid. What did I miss???[/QUOTE]


Yeah, Namba (or any place in Japan for that matter), is not an easy place to get laid if you can't read or speak. Still, I figured if you had found the pink area based on website maps people have posted (Coco's for example), then some tout might have helped you out. Hand gestures are enough once you are at a place.

There is a massage parlor located, in Namba, near the Wendys and Mr Donut in the covered shopping arcade which might accept foreigners. I've been hailed by a short unattractive woman with glasses, loose clothes and maybe a red hat. If you stand at the intersection with the Wendys on your left , Junkdo on your right and you walk toward to end of the covered street there is a koban on the left and directly across the massage parlor, it is on the second floor. Does anyone know anything about it? I guess it is safer than being hailed by an attractive woman, but I'm still wary because it is in Namba.

[url]http://www.osaka-platinum.com/index.html[/url]

Can anyone who reads Japanese tell me: 1) what the prices of these beauties might be?; 2) if they do outcall? I assume that someone on the other end of the phone will speak English, and that white guys are OK, as some of the web site is in English.

I will be in Osaka and will try and give them a call for a lady. Does anyone have any recent experience with Platinum?

Thanks

This is an outcall (Delivery Health) place. Having English on the website is no guarantee they speak it, but no harm in trying.

There is a Y2,000 fee the first time you call up, but this is waived if you mention you saw their website.

Prices are here (oral sex only). Anal Fuck is another Y12,000, and many other options I won't get into.


40分： \12000
・ 50分： \15000
・ 60分： \18000
・ 75分： \21000
・ 90分： \24000
・105分：\27000
・120分：\30000
・135分：\33000
・150分：\36000
・180分： \44000



[QUOTE=Forest][url]http://www.osaka-platinum.com/index.html[/url]

Can anyone who reads Japanese tell me: 1) what the prices of these beauties might be?; 2) if they do outcall? I assume that someone on the other end of the phone will speak English, and that white guys are OK, as some of the web site is in English.

Thanks[/QUOTE]


Also: I would be wary of the massage place Cinnaman, although you may get lucky and have some fun.

Lion:

Thanks for the translation. Does 40ï™mean 40 minutes?

If this is how it works, could you tell me what full service costs? Like many, FS is my first choice!

I see little point to paying a girl for anything less.

Do you know if Japanese hookers kiss?

Thanks

Yes the symbol is for minutes.
A previous poster spent $600 or more and didn't get FS, but had a great time. DH is not offically for FS-only oral, kissing included, although many do offer it for a tip of 5,000-10,000. Don't expect it though. If you really want FS, search the Osaka previous posts for the info on SW.

[QUOTE=Forest]Lion:

Thanks for the translation. Does 40ï™mean 40 minutes?

If this is how it works, could you tell me what full service costs? Like many, FS is my first choice!

I see little point to paying a girl for anything less.

Do you know if Japanese hookers kiss?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Had a really pleasant suprise!

I've been seeing the same girl (18 y/o with a nice tight body) a few times now at a health I go to. She really takes a liking to me (at least so it seems) when I visit her.

Well, the other day, after a delicious 5 minutes of DATY, I couldn't resist so I spread her legs wide, mount her, and slowly slide into her - and she lets me! It was an awesome bbfs experience!

Now at Japanese health clubs, this is a no-no, so I know I was very lucky. I gave her a 5,000 yen tip (that's all I had left), so the whole experience came out to about 10,000 yen total for full-service with a cute 18 year old.

Took a little while to get oriented, but found Coco's Dotonburi shop 2 blocks behind Hotel US. It is on the first floor, which is a nice change from wandering down dark alleyways. The place is very well done, cleaner than most, and there was no hesitation on letting me in. Big thank you to other WSG posters who have been there and set a good precedent.

Mid-afternoon so the fee was 8,000/30min (I opted to pass on the rather steep designation fee of Y2,000). There were only 4 girls during the slow period I was there, but when things pick up perhaps 8 or so.

Met Aika, a tall (172/82/60/86) slender thing of abut 20-22. Her face is a 6-7, but with great hair and a fine body of an 8 or so. Breasts are not so impressive (A/B), but that's to be expected in girls who have a model's figure. The photos make it look like she has a bit of a paunch-but it's just her pose. She actually is a semi-hard body having played volleyball for years.

She was very GF, and quite skilled-almost to the point of Deep Throat-something I haven't found in this country. She allowed roaming hands and fingers, and she was so tight I had a hard time not thinking of the FS potential. A bit of a catch-22, (younger) oral serivce girls have tighter pussies, FS service girls don't. No surprise I guess.

She said she wanted to learn English-the temptation to offer my services was there in exchange for other services in the future, but didn't in the end.

[url]http://www.club-coco.com/top.html[/url]

Went to Coco`s just the other day in Dotonburi and saw Kotomi who is listed as new. She usually works in the Sakaihigashi shop、but was working in the Dotonburi shop that day. As soon as I saw her I could tell from her look that it wouldn`t be a memorable visit. I was correct. She didn`t want to kiss, stated no roving hands, and was a bit cold. Maybe some of you guys will have a better response from her than me. Good luck.

Maybe a comment to the management wouyld have been useful, especially if it is a new girl providing poor service. Other Coco's girls have gotten good reveiws.

[QUOTE=Osaka Brian]Went to Coco`s just the other day in Dotonburi and saw Kotomi who is listed as new. She usually works in the Sakaihigashi shop、but was working in the Dotonburi shop that day. As soon as I saw her I could tell from her look that it wouldn`t be a memorable visit. I was correct. She didn`t want to kiss, stated no roving hands, and was a bit cold. Maybe some of you guys will have a better response from her than me. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

So I tried one of these BJ places and got a really good BBBJCIM. There seem to be many places like this near Umeda and Namba. The one I tried was in Namba.

How to get there: Sorry the name was in Japanese so I couldn't even tell you what it was called. Get off at Namba station, subway exit #4 or #5. Find the Starbucks and go through the covered shopping area. Pass all the Pachinko parlors. A mamasan called me over meaning they were receptive to gaijin. Many other places in the area if you walk around.

Damage was 7000 Yen plus tip to the girl. They wanted additional 5000 Yen tip but after much hassle we agreed to 4000 Yen. 11000 Yen total.

The girl was mid 30's. Nice boobs which we were nice to suck on. She really should do laundry more as I could smell that old laundry smell from her well worn bra. Really good technique and she kept the vacuum on after I was done.

All this was done without me knowing a word of Japanese. I know I paid too much but was in the need of the experience. My first time in Osaka.

I posted a couple of questions, awhile back, about where I could get viagra in Japan and whether I could get it without a prescription or not (looks like not).

I went to my local doctor, who's a urologist, and asked him for a prescription and he gave me one.

The National Health Insurance doesn't cover the blue pills, so it's a bit expensive.

one pill = 1,100 yen ($11 USD) for 25 mg.

Man, does it work! Japan will be repopulated in no time.

Thank you very much.

In my experience, in Japanese places girls DO NOT ASK FOR TIPS. The foreign girls on the other hand seem to expect them, which I find very irritating since it leads to confusion on whether the origional price quoted is all-inclusive or not.

Perhaps some others have experience with paying tips for special service (Greek, FS, swallow) but those are options rather than normal service.

Well done in getting a decent BJ without any Japanese. All-in-all you didn't do too badly, depending on how much time you got. For an hour 10,000 is OK. If it was a quick one shot and you're out 20 minutes, then you overpaid.


[QUOTE=Clave]So I tried one of these BJ places and got a really good BBBJCIM. There seem to be many places like this near Umeda and Namba. The one I tried was in Namba.

Damage was 7000 Yen plus tip to the girl. They wanted additional 5000 Yen tip but after much hassle we agreed to 4000 Yen. 11000 Yen total.


All this was done without me knowing a word of Japanese. I know I paid too much but was in the need of the experience. My first time in Osaka.[/QUOTE]

Behind the Picadilly movie theater on Shin-Midosuji street there are SGs that congregate to help make men happy. (An earlier post of mine shows exactly where this spot is)

Usually it'll run you 20,000 to have one of these girls share their happiness with you, but I was fortunate to run into Gon. She agreed to play for only 15,000 and we hopped into the hotel just 5 meters away.

She was a looker (160 cm with short light brown hair). Nice small round ass with a nice set of firm b cups that bounced out when the bra came off. Firm body with no fat that I could see, with nice light brown Thai skin and she was nicely trimmed. She was early 30s but had the body of a 25 year old.

She really like cleanliness as I found out in our bath together and she loved to talk and laugh it up. One of the friendliest SGs I've ever met.

We started w/ lots of dfk, cbj, 69, cg, rcg, and dog. She was passionate and made a helluva lot of noise.

Afterwards we relaxed and had some coffee and snacks that came with the room. She really enjoyed just kicking it and having a conversation; lounging till the 2 hour time limit was up. She hardly ever stopped smiling.

I felt great after Gon. One of the best sgs that I've ever had. The few Thai girlies that I've met in this area have been really nice, so be nice and don't forget to smile.

If you're looking for some sg action in Minami, then check out the waiting area in front of Shin-Kabukiza performance theater.

It's a meeting spot for normal folks, but often you'll see a couple girlies hanging out 'for just a bit too long'.

A lot of them look pretty beat but a few aren't too bad. They'll "help you with your Japanese" for about 10 thousand plus hotel for 3 thou.

Found myself in Kobe a couple weeks ago on business, and decided to check out the soapland area Fukuhara near Kobe Station. Easy enough to find, but getting in the door proved near impossible.

Tried a half dozen places, and even had a chat with some of the touts. They said the soapland association was very strict on the no gainjin rule. They suggested I try the mitsumori center where a guy made a half dozen calls trying to get me in, but in the end I ran out of time and had to give up.

I did get an offer from Juliana's after I told them my friend had been there before, but they said it would cost an extra Y5,000 as I was a gaijin, so I said no thanks. In retrospect I probably should have gone for it...

Does anyone know of porno video boxes in the Kansai area where female attendants "help" you for a 3000yen fee? I've seen websites for places in Tokyo.

Its not as much fun as Tobita but there are a good selection of Street Girls in Tennoji on the Tanimachi-suji. Take the North Exit out of JR Tennoji (or midosuji/tanimachi subway lines) and walk directly across the road. Turn left and head around the corner to the right. About 100m down the road you'll see a lot of ladies just walking up and down or simply sitting. They'll start off asking for 15k but you can go down to 10k for FS if you show that you're serious (i.e. show them the money). Lots of love hotels around and mercifully little law enforcement. Loads of Chinese and Thais etc. Be careful not to go past the point where the road starts to go uphill again as this is where the lady-boys like to work.

Happy hunting.

Thanks for the Tennoji "tourist information" Member #3247. I was just making plans on doing some "sightseeing" down there.

Too bad Lion about the "international" port of Kobe. I've also had quite a few touts give me the big X sign with their arms.

[QUOTE=Fiver]Does anyone know of porno video boxes in the Kansai area where female attendants "help" you for a 3000yen fee? I've seen websites for places in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I've seen some of these in Tokyo too but I haven't been able to find any in Osaka. I hope someone can answer your question Fiver because I'd like to know too. Sorry I can't help.

***
I found a fashion health for 3k 500 for 20 min. in Umeda.

Go to the Picadilly Theater and head south towards MOS Burger. Turn left at the signal just past MOS (large metered parking lot there). Go about 40 meters and turn right at the very first intersection with stop signs.

"Onyanko" (written in hiragana) will be on your right on the second floor. They service gaijins with some/limited Japanese ability. A couple of the girls were cute, while a couple were just okay. But at this price...........

Also a complimentary whiskey or tea to go with your woman. Bon appetite.

Went window shopping in Tennoji (no pay till payday).

Like Member #3247 said in his post, the SG's are out there by the JR North Exit across Tanimachi-suji street.

I've also noticed that they are also in the Abechika Underground Concourse that goes right underneath Tanimachi-suji street.

This underground concourse can be enterered from any of the staircases that some of the SGs are standing next to.

I also spotted a couple of "standers" just inside of the JR North Exit.


Overall the ladies looked a bit old and tattered. Out of all the ones that I saw, only one was in her 20's and had a nice body. All the others looked to be over 40.

[QUOTE=Fiver]Does anyone know of porno video boxes in the Kansai area where female attendants "help" you for a 3000yen fee? I've seen websites for places in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]

About 45 minutes west of Osaka, in Kakogawa, on the way to Himeiji. Haven't been there myself, but I imagine they'd service J-speaking gaijin.

[url]http://www.maslook.com/index2.html[/url]

THRUSTER-found any soaplands in Osaka that have been foreigner friendly?

If you fancy to pick up stollers in the northern territories, then Izumi Hiroba is an option.

(It's the round circular underground concourse next to the#4 on the map below - underneath/next to the Picaddily Movie Theater - east end of the WHITY underground shopping arcade)

Many of them are definitely in the 'used car' category and have seen better days. You can ride one for about 10k if you negotiate.

One girl gives BBBJCIM for 5k in the bathroom and in an abandoned building nearby. Most of these girls won't though.


If you're looking for nice foreign "luxury cars" then I recommend you get out of Izumi Hiroba and go behind the Picadilly Theater (#4 on map) and exchange greetings w/ some of the Thai and Colombian embassadors.

You're looking at 20k but you can knock off 5k if you're a good diplomat.


Note: Sometimes they're out in numbers and sometimes they're not out at all, especially the Thais and Colombians.




[url]http://www.japantimes.com/images/movies/kita1.jpg[/url]

[QUOTE=Lion]
THRUSTER-found any soaplands in Osaka that have been foreigner friendly?[/QUOTE]

Sorry Lion, but I haven't actually gone hunting in this regard here in Osaka. I've been on a third world budget and have been 'internationalising' in the less-expensive healths.

BTW, thanks for the link.

I was in Osaka three days ago, and one night I was free for hunting.

Since I wanted to abvoid those rip-off bars in the center close to Namba, I followed the directions of a fellow from Sukebe board and went to Dobutsen-Mae.

From there, the RLD is very easy to find - through the shopping arcade - then left until you are under the elevated highway - then right again until the highway turns left - here you are already in the RLD with lots of boots.

There is always a mamasan in the front ( with the girls right behind her ), and when she smiles at you and says "dozo", you are welcome. Well, I am 1,92m, blonde, blue eyes so that I am easy to disclose as a gaijin, but 15 out of the approx. 100 mamasans gave me the ok by inviting me !

I choose a small, young lady, she turned out to be just 19yo, abt. 155cm, small A-cup breasts and a slim figure to die for.

She went me upstairs with enthusiasm - she was really happy to have her first gaijin in bed ! What followed was the most powerful 20min-session, I ever completed : first she sucked me with delightful moans about my hughe size and enjoyed my fingers working on and inside her.
Soon, she turned us around, fel on the bed, raised her legs and eagerly waited for me to get inside her. She needed some lube, although she was wet and horny, but our dimensions didn't match at first.

However, after a minute, she got used to it and started working me up and down on her. Man - she really loved it and I think, the whole district must have heard her. She came a little bit before me and she contracted her muscles down under so hard, that I couldn't stand it any longer. That made me feel like heaven !

We laid together for a while and relaxed until she sliped me out and cleaned me up

When we came down, mamasan as well as another girl, which was waiting for a customer grinned at us knowingly - I think, they have followed our session in detail.

Finally, she giggled and waved me good-bye.

So guys, simply try it - some japanese obviously like gaijin - but it's so hard to find them.

Good Luck
Robert

[QUOTE=Member #2987]went to Dobutsen-Mae.
Good Luck
Robert[/QUOTE]

Great report.
What did it cost you?

to LION

total damage was JPY 15.000 all in

not as cheap as Chech or Poland but absolutely worth the money.

keep it on the high iron

Robert

O.k. So, this is my first time posting some info for you mongers out there.
First off, I would like to thank all the boys who have contributed to the site by submitting reports and giving us all the info we need to make our sexual encounters more safe, convenient, and worthwhile.

Went to Osaka for a Visa run a couple of weeks ago. After reading some reports here and printing out some useful information from the Sukebe board, I decided to hit the Namba area and look for COCO'S on Dotonbori. Surely enough, the place was visible (right at the edge of the Dotonbori bridge).

As I walked inside I was greeted by a young guy who started speaking Japanese to me..No time to fret, I just pointed to the price and time (7,000 Yen/30 minutes) which was conveniently displayed on the board. He started explaining that this was not a place where you can acquire FS (i understood that part because of the hand gestures he was making. I don't speak Japanese). I just said "Hai..Hai" to everything he said. Then, I asked for the album. Cost me 2,000 Yen extra. I also had the coupon which you can print from their site. So, the damage in total was 8,000.

I picked Aika. What a beauty. Pretty face, nice smile, small breasts, tall girl, nice semi-full lips and an ass to die for..even though you can't hump it in this place...She got right down to business and started kissing me all over my body, then the BBBJ. She wasn't mechanical at all. Nice technique with the tongue. She didn't stop until I shot a load in her mouth. BBBJCIM. She even let it drip down her lips a little and smiled, then gently spit it out into the napkin. What an experience. My first day in Osaka. We started talking a bit after that, and since her English was minimal she used her cell phone to translate some stuff while we chatted. Here's the thing, she said she will quit soon and go to France for a holiday.

Boys, I recommend this place and this girl. I take it that the other COCO's in ShinsaiBashi and other areas are just as good; Clean, quiet, professional, and satisfying. Good luck! Happy hunting.

..also visited the Dobutsen-Mae area and nailed a tight little nymphet. More costly, however. But that's a whole different report.

-"Seek and you shall Find"

[QUOTE=Thruster]
I found a fashion health for 3k 500 for 20 min. in Umeda.

Go to the Picadilly Theater and head south towards MOS Burger. Turn left at the signal just past MOS (large metered parking lot there). Go about 40 meters and turn right at the very first intersection with stop signs.

"Onyanko" (written in hiragana) will be on your right on the second floor. They service gaijins with some/limited Japanese ability. A couple of the girls were cute, while a couple were just okay. But at this price...........

Also a complimentary whiskey or tea to go with your woman. Bon appetite.[/QUOTE]Thank Thruster for the indication, discovered a cool place, by the way, did you have a CBJ or BBBJ there ?

I visited the place and they refused a BBBJ. (well... I had my shower and everything just before, so I guess was not me or something...)

Went after 20:00 and I was asked 4.500 yen. Girl was barely a 5 in my book. When the girl was preparing the condom I realized that was going to be a CBJ, negotiated a little and I could have easily all money back.

There was no argument, everybody was kind, boss was bowing, saing sorry, girl too... everything went Japanese style.

Bottom line is if you want a quick CBJ you can go there and have fun.

Cheers,

R

Guys,

Can not find Cocos. I must missed the instructions about street names, North, south, east, or west. I am old now and my direction dick fell off my fourhead a long time ago. Not like you younger guys.

But did find a place. Pink sign says 5000 for half hour. I told him I wanted a blow job. He started at 100000. I got him to agree to 80000. Still too much. I saw only two girls. The one I had was 21. She did it with no rubber, but it was a blow-hand job. She spoke enough English to tell not cum in her mouth.

Get off the subway Kintetsu line at Nipponbashi station, exit 2. When you get to the street turn left(north). Which is Sennichimae-dori and Sakai-suji in Nipponbashi-1. Go north one alley. Turn west go two alleys, it is on the left of the Business Inn Sennichimae Hotel. It has a pink sign with cuppie and bow and arrow.

WT69

To all who seek cheap BBBJ:

Fukuoka is not too far from Osaka and they have a BBBJ shop called Angel. They do let non japanese in. They girls are beautiful and they allow multiple pops. 20 minutes is about 4000 yen and for and extra 1000 yen you can choose your girl. The place is located near the American made mall named Canal City.

Good luck,

Slim Desu

Yesterday I just had the greatest time EVER. in some previous report I had heard about this place nearly nobody talks about, but which is worth trying before to die.

For the directions, left the Osaka JR station as if you were going to the Hankyuu department store. Then it is straight forward, right then left to get to the street (attached map here) if you can't read it, or if you just cannot find the street, there is an information center just after leaving the train station where they will give you what you want (map,directions, nearly go with you to make sure you find :D). Once you're on the right street, go straight straight and keep watching on your right side. Finally you'll see the shop with name written in hiragana and kanji as shown in the pic attached here (in my memories, that was brown and not green... maybe mistaken, watch)

From now I assume you found the shop. so please get in, 3rd floor.. the tout is well-suited and quite gaijin friendly, provided you don't act like assholes. So do not hesitate to tell him that you are a foreigner, and ask gently what is the service offered here and which rules you are to follow. Not that you don't know, but to show him that gaijin aren't just all dirty pigs.. After talking with many touts in Tokyo and Osaka, I can say that the main 2 reasons of the "Gaijin no-no" policy are international policy (Japan willing to be USA's best friend to get a UN security council chair) and health (the average japanese girl sees the worls like this : a rich, developed country, Japan, with smart,sophisticated people, another rich but decadent country, the States, filled with evil things like drugs and guns, and all the rest being the third world - I am barely exagerating). All of that to say that the question of whether or not you will get service, and if yes, the quality of the service itself (and the choice of the girls) will mostly depend on your behaviour with the tout. If you don't understand what the guy is saying, just keep looking at him in his eyes, smile, sai "hai hai" and that's okay. Anyway, he says that you can't have sex (obvious), that you must be nice to the girls (same), and also something like that you can't touch more than one girl at the same time, which turns absolutely not to be the case (as long as you're nice, don't forget)

Now the most important, the service. The place is a 2-shot bar (1 girl comes, talk, clean little bro, kiss, bbbjcim, clean bro again, leave, another comes and the same).. and much more interesting to me, a mutiple play bar (2,3 or even 4 girls at the :) SAME TIME :) ) you can read the prices on the web site, but in fact they are a bit different in real (not rip-off like different, I think there is sometimes a 500Y mistake or so on the site) Anyway, if you want to be sure just ask to the tout, or watch the actual prices once you're there, or even call them before you go. Satisfaction sometimes needs to pay a little bit attention.. tips : watch carefully the site : you'll see a little video play that'll turn you on, girls' pics (in fact not rip off, they do look like this in real, at least for those I got), happy hours (sa-a-bi-su-ta-i-mu), the classical "choose the girl for +2000Y" fun options like costumes (+1000Y)... Don't forget to print the 1000Y discount ticket.

I eagerly wanted to try the multiplay but no much money nor time, so I took the 30min-3P (take care, 3P means 2 girls + you) service. I don't like to choose a girl because I am not rich and I let the chance decide...and I gave to the tout the best spent 12000Y in my whole life. I got Minami (J-girl, 24yr old, face 8, body 9, service 9) and Shiina (J-girl, 19yr old, face 9, body 9, service 9), welcomed me very warmly, both gave me one hand and took me to a nice little room with a large bed (nothing to do with any place in Tokyo as far as I know). talked a bit, they slowly took my clothes off, with nice gestures (kisses in the neck, little hugs, wet smiles...) cleaned my little bro with that funny hot water spray (I'm telling you, every little detail is great) , got naked as well (after a hilarious "zenbu nuide ii desuka?" - "Is this okay if we take off our clothes?"), awesome body (both small pear-shabed breasts, soft thin body, hell nice asses and Shiina navel-pierced). Got me laid and here I was, naked on this hot bed, with one hot cut little nude babe in every arm. Started kissing (3 tongue kiss.. amazing), they ran on every part of my body with their mouth, hands, tongue, arms, legs... all fantasticly done, very, very GFE, let me do whatever I wanted (except FS... but actually I didn't care), finger their pussies and nice little asses, my hands were in heaven for hands. bbbj by Minami, then Shiina, then Minami again, and finally both. every time my bro was in one mouth, the other girl came to me and kisses, touches, sat on my face (which I love when the girl is 45kg - don't know in lbs), e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g absolutely great. I still can't imagine how come it took me the entire session time to pop (enough to fill half a glass though), but apparently Minami didn't care and made sure she wouldn't miss a single drop in her horny mouth. Actually I did not see her spit.. which doesn't mean she didn't, but I like to think that she's swallowed it all (WTF if I'm wrong? I have the right to dream...) After all of this, both looked very happy and satisfied themselves, then whereas the clock rang we got laid a bit with kisses for another 5 min talking. Finally they put me my clothes on (like a very king lol), walked me to the door and each gave me a last wet warm kiss before I left.

Once nearly out, the tout called me back. I don't know why but the first thing that came to my mind was that he would surely shot me with a gun (like "this was far too good to be real"). Actually he just wanted for me to fill a paper for a kind of survey (who were your girls? were they good? did they suck you? did you touch them ? where? are you satisfied - from 0 to 120%? weird but very fun. I left after a "give me a five" thing with him as if we were now best friends. I missed my train and that made me sad (yeah right)

The only thing I wish I had seen is a sperm swap (didn't even ask... should have)
I can't remember seeing any of them stop smiling. Extraordynary moment.

If you have some other places like this, pleaase let me know (nothing in the threads so far, but you can walk in the streets and find by yourselves)
As I read in a previous post, in Japan almost everything pink is related to sex (girls, mangas or videos). But you can be sure everything related to sex is not pink, so keep your eyes open and you'll see. If you have nampa tips (I am not as good as big JP, did not ever try nampa once), Same.

The next day I went back to Tokyo and I wanted a quick cheap pop so I went to Sugamo, it sucked. The only reason I popped though is that I had the image of these 2 naked angels doing me.

So I will just please you again to be polite, talk gently to the tout and act nicely with the girls. This is the best for saving our (gaijin) chance of keeping going in this wonderful place.

And of course, thou shalt post report.

[url]http://www.hadakano-ousama.com/top.html[/url]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69]Guys,

Can not find Cocos...

. Pink sign says 5000 for half hour. I told him I wanted a blow job. He started at 100000. I got him to agree to 80000. Still too much. WT69[/QUOTE]

It took me a while to find Cocos as well-even with map in hand.

I pray you didn't really pay 80,000yen...unless that was for an allnight 3-some...

[QUOTE=Teddy Johnwa]Thank Thruster for the indication, discovered a cool place, by the way, did you have a CBJ or BBBJ there ?

I visited the place and they refused a BBBJ. (well... I had my shower and everything just before, so I guess was not me or something...)

Went after 20:00 and I was asked 4.500 yen. Girl was barely a 5 in my book. When the girl was preparing the condom I realized that was going to be a CBJ, negotiated a little and I could have easily all money back.

There was no argument, everybody was kind, boss was bowing, saing sorry, girl too... everything went Japanese style.

Bottom line is if you want a quick CBJ you can go there and have fun.

Cheers,

R[/QUOTE]

Sorry to hear that they tried to "cover" you Teddy Johnwa. Good god!

Actually when I went, no raincoat was put on my jimmy. She sucked my tabernackle bare and the girl was a cutie.

In some places the discretion to use a jimmy hat or not is left up to the girl.

I hope you have better luck next time and I'm glad they didn't give you a 'hard' time.

[QUOTE=Lion]It took me a while to find Cocos as well-even with map in hand.

I pray you didn't really pay 80,000yen, unless that was for an allnight 3-some.[/QUOTE]NO, I am too cheap it was 8000 yen. Still too much.

This one is near Nankai-Namba station. Come up to street facing lots taxis. Waiting. Takashimaya department store should behind you on your right. On the right should be Starbucks and two covered shopping malls. Take the one next to Starbucks. It is covered for two blocks, when it becomes uncovered on your right near the corner, there is white sign with a women kneeling with her hands between her legs.

My story:

My last night in Osaka; after my trip the Osaka Castle, I passed by a massage place and the mamasan invited me in. She pointed to my dick and I motioned blow job, she said Hai. I said I would be back. Went back to my hotel and took my Viagra and returned an hour later. This time there was a older guy out front. I told him mamasan said come in. He said Hi. I motioned I want a blow job, he said Hai. Before you can get in I had to pay $70. I go in, sit down on a couch. Girl comes over with tea or something. I will not touch the stuff. I said blow job, she said OK. Other girl comes over, start kissing my nipples thru all my hairy chest, other women puts oil on my dick and starts jacking me off. I said NO hand job, blow job. They stop, big comotion. I said give me my money back, the guy comes over to give me the money. Athird girl says she give me BJ. She sits her big fat ass on my chest, with butt in my face. She is waring a short skirt and throng undies. She puts a rubber on it and starts to suck. She sucked for about 10 minutes. She sucked so soft I could barely feel her. Waste of time. I said take off the rubber; thought maybe she do it without it. No, she starts stroking on the bottom of the shaff. I had to keep telling higher, higher, finally I had to push her hand higher. Finally I cum. Waste of time. She did say someone bam bam and slapped her ask or something like that. Maybe I should tried to fuck her. Waste of money. Oh, yes forgot to mention she must of weighed over 200 pounds.

Try it you might like it. Here is a Picture of the place.

WT69

For World Travel 69

Bro, forget about the map and just follow my directions:

To find Coco's: I swear to you it is right at the Edge of Dotombori street, right next to the Dotombori river (the entrance to COCOS doesnt face the river, the back of it does.) Its about 100 metres away from a huge curving highway. That's where the street actually ENDS; that's the biggest clue i can give you. It is the 3rd or 4th last building on that street as well. I know, I know, is it EAST or West, you're thinking?

The shitty thing is that i, myself, dont know about the directions. Look at it this way, if you cant find the place in one direction and you've hit the boonies, then you know it was the wrong way. Just go the other way, have a nice walk and enjoy the scenery until you find it. I know, it sucks, but eventually you'll find it. The Dotombori street is very narrow, after you pass the "Subway" franchise and the huge intersection, it should be the next or 2nd small street. turn left and keep walking until you see the sign Cocos. It's on the ground floor. There are other Fashion/BBBJCIM places on the same side, but I never tried them. The key is to remember that it's a tight street right next to the River itself.

I hope this helps, bro. If you can't find it, I suggest you search for the OSAMA place as member#3882 posted. That sounds like an awesome experience.

Good luck,

The Guru

Went to : [url]http://www.kilalaclub.com/[/url]

Strange place, a place to go when you ve been anywhere else. Strange thing to do again, when you ve done all other things and wanna be back to the basics. If adventuruous, you can get attached to the pole, hand cuffed [only 1 hand] so you continue showing off with the other one. And if you feel like it, she ll squeeze her high heels on your tits later, when you re a carpet before the sofa. All other customers will be delighted, and later you will be too, by there action or lack of expression, especially if you re like me, a short guy with a big dick. And an even bigger mouth.

Try it, we live only once, and I m not sure they have such a place in Heaven.

Felix Dacat

[QUOTE=Happy Guru]For World Travel 69

Bro, forget about the map and just follow my directions:

To find Coco's: I swear to you it is right at the Edge of Dotombori street, right next to the Dotombori river (the entrance to COCOS doesnt face the river, the back of it does.) Its about 100 metres away from a huge curving highway. That's where the street actually ENDS; that's the biggest clue i can give you. It is the 3rd or 4th last building on that street as well. I know, I know, is it EAST or West, you're thinking?

The shitty thing is that i, myself, dont know about the directions. Look at it this way, if you cant find the place in one direction and you've hit the boonies, then you know it was the wrong way. Just go the other way, have a nice walk and enjoy the scenery until you find it. I know, it sucks, but eventually you'll find it. The Dotombori street is very narrow, after you pass the "Subway" franchise and the huge intersection, it should be the next or 2nd small street. turn left and keep walking until you see the sign Cocos. It's on the ground floor. There are other Fashion/BBBJCIM places on the same side, but I never tried them. The key is to remember that it's a tight street right next to the River itself.

I hope this helps, bro. If you can't find it, I suggest you search for the OSAMA place as member#3882 posted. That sounds like an awesome experience.

Good luck,

The Guru[/QUOTE]Right now I am in Kobe. There lots sex places, but no invites. Just a bar owner women that wanted 300,000 yen. No thanks.

Going home Thursday.

Wt69

Here one I was invited into. The guy dropped his rate from 120,000 to 100,000. I believe that was for 2 hours. I did not have time to go in.
Get off the subway Kintetsu line at Nipponbashi station, exit 2. When you get to the street turn left(north). Which is Sennichimae-dori and Sakai-suji in Nipponbashi-1. Go north across the Dotomborigawa river bridge, first street pass it. Turn left(west). I believe it is one or two blocks. The place is called New moon. Big new moon on the building. Here is the photo of the place.

WT69

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69]Guys,

Can not find Cocos. I must missed the instructions about street names, North, south, east, or west. I am old now and my direction dick fell off my fourhead a long time ago. Not like you younger guys.

But did find a place. Pink sign says 5000 for half hour. I told him I wanted a blow job. He started at 100000. I got him to agree to 80000. Still too much. I saw only two girls. The one I had was 21. She did it with no rubber, but it was a blow-hand job. She spoke enough English to tell not cum in her mouth.

Get off the subway Kintetsu line at Nipponbashi station, exit 2. When you get to the street turn left(north). Which is Sennichimae-dori and Sakai-suji in Nipponbashi-1. Go north one alley. Turn west go two alleys, it is on the left of the Business Inn Sennichimae Hotel. It has a pink sign with cuppie and bow and arrow.

WT69[/QUOTE]Just added photo so you guys will not get lost.

Just finished a session at the Hadaka no Ousama and i agree to the original poster that this was a great place. The details given were very accurate. I ws there in the morning and had Minami. She was great lady and great to talk to. Will definitely go back maybe tomorrow.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69]Just added photo so you guys will not get lost.[/QUOTE]It is across the street from a building which has 4 large heads outside of it.

If you walk from the Subway sandwich shop and cross the big road, keep an eye out for a McDonalds and then a Yoshinoya. Turn left when you see the Yoshinoya. Do Not cross the river.

Anyone know telephone neumber of outcall scort service, gaijin friendly.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Pansted00]Anyone know telephone neumber of outcall scort service, gaijin friendly.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

They may speak a bit of English perhaps:
Higher end:
[url]http://www.osaka-platinum.com/index.html[/url]

You'll need some Japanese
Normal price:
[url]http://www.galsnetwork.com/top.html[/url]

No FS guarantee, but if you do get a girl, do let us know either way.

[url]http://pksp.jp/kyoubasi-body/[/url]

From the JR Kyobashi station, go right out of the station, then right again toward the 2 small public TVs. At the discount ticket booth, make a left and it will be on the right after you pass the Pachinko place. It's called Kyobashi (in Chinese Characters) Body. It's easy to spot as they have photos European ladies out front.

Just cruis'n through Kyobashi and ran into this place. They only have international ladies from Sweden, Italy, Agentina, to name a few. They have a 4,900 Yen deal for 25 minutes if you go before 5 or 6 PM.

The ladies look like 9-10's in the photos but in the flesh, they drop down a few points. The ladies here only seem to offer covered BJ's but the tiny perk here is that they offer FS for 7,000-10,000.

BTW, the place is foreigner friendly.

[QUOTE=Baka Guy][url]http://pksp.jp/kyoubasi-body/[/url]
From the JR Kyobashi station, go right out of the station, then right again toward the 2 small public TVs. At the discount ticket booth, make a left and it will be on the right after you pass the Pachinko place. It's called Kyobashi (in Chinese Characters) Body. It's easy to spot as they have photos European ladies out front.
[...]
BTW, the place is foreigner friendly.[/QUOTE]I was there few days ago and unfortunately it was closed (!) Guys at the neighbour shop said that they do not know when it'll open again. Maybe is simply a kind of renewal, maybe they broke down, who knows. Anyway, it looks as it is just a temporary close, all pictures and stuff are out there.

Just to explain how to reach there, it is 2-3 min walk from Kyobashi JR station, NORTH exit. Go to the right side (do not go to the left where the main hall is, with all the people is, usually somebody is playing, go the other side where the small roads are...). You will have to choose between three rd, take the one on the right and follow it for about 100 meters (kind of zig-zagging) and take the first left.

Go straight the place is about 200 meters on your right (a little after the pachinko on your left)

I didn't see any TV screens.

If somebody find it open please report.

TJ

I will be in Osaka at the end of the month and want to know if anyone tried Puripara? Last time I was in Japan(tokyo) the service I called charged $3 for FS and the guy spoke good english on the phone. On the web site they charge $ up to 8pm fo 60min and $1.5 from 8pm which sounds cheap. The girls also look not bad. I also want to know if the do FS for an extra fee and if anyone speaks english. Seems like to much trouble to go to other places if this place is good. Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=samter]I will be in Osaka at the end of the month and want to know if anyone tried Puripara? Last time I was in Japan(tokyo) the service I called charged $3 for FS and the guy spoke good english on the phone. On the web site they charge $ up to 8pm fo 60min and $1.5 from 8pm which sounds cheap. The girls also look not bad. I also want to know if the do FS for an extra fee and if anyone speaks english. Seems like to much trouble to go to other places if this place is good. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Osaka is not the same as Tokyo, where you can order a gal in English and pay 30,000 expect FS. Here FS is up to the girl, not the shop, and many won't.

That said, I know the foreign girls (Russians etc...) are eager to make an extra 10,000 and will offer FS. Try a place like this:

[url]http://b.pksp.jp/kyoubasi-body/novel.cgi?&o=5[/url]

Anyone want to meet up in Fukuoka? It is about a 3 hour train ride from Osaka. Real big city and great bbbj shops for 5000 yen that have beautiful girls. I will be there Aug 25th - Sept 15th. PM me if you are interested.

LION,

Anymore places that offer Russians in Osaka? Are there many Russian girls working here? What's the quality like, 1-10?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=TRL]LION,

Anymore places that offer Russians in Osaka? Are there many Russian girls working here? What's the quality like, 1-10?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Haven't used them, but I think you'd find decent Russians offering FS for a "tip" of 5-10,000.

Website says "foreigners must use delivery service" rather than their shop.

[url]http://www.amuse-osaka.com/main.html[/url]

Be sure to report back-we need more Osaka Info.

Never been to Osaka before. But did hear that girls over there are more open and likes to have fun more than Tokyo? Any good nanpa spots in Osaka?

[quote=lion]haven't used them, but i think you'd find decent russians offering fs for a "tip" of 5-10,000.
website says "foreigners must use delivery service" rather than their shop.
[url]http://www.amuse-osaka.com/main.html[/url]
be sure to report back-we need more osaka info.[/quote]thanks lion.

i went there here's my report.

i called the 06-6311-4335, (third of the list in the home page), in umeda station. a guy answer and told me that as first-timer i had to visit the place and have a membercard first.

to reach the place: get to umeda hankyu station, and search for the huge namco building, on its sides there are two arcade roads, get the one on the right of it, it is called higashi shoutengai, its written in japanese at the entrance of the arcade, look up... its written also in small roman characters just under the japanese.

namco building will be on your left, go through all the arcade, you have to cross a main road, on the other side the arcade continues, go to the end of it.

when you reach the end (no arcade over your head anymore), turn left and 30 meters on your left you will see a small road with a huge love-hotel, the decorations are xstmas-like, you cant miss it.

the place is in the building on the right of this hotel, enter the small hall and you will see the amuse logo as in the home page. you have to enter the hall and peek, from the outside there is no logo anywere.

go to the 5th floor and that's it. (i guess newbies you do not need to call in advance)

the guy was polite showed me 6 pictures, i didn't recognise any of the girl i saw in the h.p., though.

choose a brasilian girl called kandy, in the picture she was 23 and an 8 or so.

charge was 9900 yen plus hotel, they have an agreement with the love hotel nearby, for 2800 yen, plus i had to pay 1000 for member card and 1000 for seeing the pictures, total less than 15.000

the guy warned me not to have sex with the girl because it is illegal.

i received a dicount card of 3000 yen for next time.

i waited only 5 min or so the guy called me and gave me a special coupon for the hotel, (with that you have the special rate 2800 yen) and told me the room number.

went there and waited in the room for 5 min and she arrived, it was clear she was 30 or 32, however when she was 23, she was for sure a stunner. now she is a 7 in my book.

had shower, bath, cbj, kissing, daty, 69.

i think fs was an option, i didn't ask but it looked more than possible to me. we finished with a cbj. then bath, jakuzzi and chats.

was first time for me in a love hotel and i think it is completely another feeling than those horrible cubicules of bj bars. you have three rooms, tvs everywhere even in the bathroom, lights, adult videos, videogames so on and so forth... all included.

you feel much better, and if the member card will really work, next time the experience will be less than 12.000 yen, rather cheap. i presume that in us something like that is worth 500 dollar or more.

i must add that i was maybe lucky with the girl. the pictures were sort of fake. this girl was around 7 years older than the picture they showed me. and none of the girl i saw there were on the h.p. as far as my memory recalls.

take the younger girl they show you, good luck and please report if you visit the place.

tj

[QUOTE=Teddy Johnwa]Thanks Lion.

I went there here's my report.

like that is worth 500 dollar or more.

I must add that I was maybe lucky with the girl. The pictures were sort of fake. This girl was around 7 years older than the picture they showed me. And none of the girl I saw there were on the h.p. as far as my memory recalls.

Take the younger girl they show you, good luck and please report if you visit the place.

TJ[/QUOTE]

I would say the experience is close to the same US price of $150 or so. In the US you get FS, but then they kick you out the dorr usually, so it might be done in 30 minutes. In japan you get the full time, minus about 10-15 for dressing&undressing.

I had one Russian Hotel Health CHick. Went to shop, chose photo, paid about 10,000 for 60min, she comes in about 10 minutes later and we go to a cheap (but nice) love hotel. She was about 5 years older than the pick, but not too bad (28 instead of 23 maybe).

She said 10,000 for FS, but I didn't want to spend 23,000 for a lay with someone who didn't rock my socks off.

Hi Mongers,

we found out that "Member's club" at some area quite close to the centre, the name of the area was Shinsaibashi/Soemonchou or similar.
But from the card attached you can easily find it.

Japanese Mongers, pls translate the card for us !

We went there with Japanese Partner. This location seems to be serious, arriving there you can see the available girls by photo (Korean and Chinese). According to the photos, they were excellent. Price was 15.000 and in case you take the girl to hotel 19.000 Yen for 1 hour. No bargin or agressive "Come in" attidude by the local staff there. But you can see the girl only if you take it. They do not speak English, our partner translated all and investigated the conditions so I guess that is real. Unfortunately we already spent a lot of money (see photo gallery) so I will check out next month.

Anybody has been there ?

[QUOTE=Secada]Hi Mongers,

we found out that "Member's club" at some area quite close to the centre, the name of the area was Shinsaibashi/Soemonchou or similar.
But from the card attached you can easily find it.

Japanese Mongers, pls translate the card for us !

We went there with Japanese Partner. This location seems to be serious, arriving there you can see the available girls by photo (Korean and Chinese). According to the photos, they were excellent. Price was 15.000 and in case you take the girl to hotel 19.000 Yen for 1 hour. No bargin or agressive "Come in" attidude by the local staff there. But you can see the girl only if you take it. They do not speak English, our partner translated all and investigated the conditions so I guess that is real. Unfortunately we already spent a lot of money (see photo gallery) so I will check out next month.

Anybody has been there ?[/QUOTE]


Not much to translate-just the name and address.

Report back, especially if you get FS!

Hi,

I've been again in AMUSE (see previous reports). Not a great experience this time.

Checked girls in home page and phoned, none of my interest available. I ask who was there answer was : Cameron, Helen, Samy, Kandy, Mia Leika and Jina. Most cute are Cameron or Helen I thought, but I could not reserve, the guy asked me to go there. (maybe I didn't catch it very well, I was speaking my broken Japanese there)

Then I went directly there, looking at the pictures, I thought about Cameron or Helen, but guy said I had to wait hours. I went for a girl called Jina, looked not so bad on the picture...

This time I payed 12.000 yen, the 3000 yen discount for members is crap, you cannot use it for the cheap course, so at the end you pay 12.000 as without any discount. In theory you have 70 min instead of 45... well.... this doesn't make so much difference to me.

Went to hotel "trevi" and Jina arrived... probably 40, face 4, body maybe 6, still some teats and a butt... however not exactly what you expect if you pay 12.000 plus hotel (was 3.000). I thought seriously to call the guy and ask money back this time.

Anyway, after a while first chats and so on I decided to take it easy, had her naked, touched her a little while we talked. Took even some picture for YOU of wsgforum. If you want to check out the difference between what they show on the site and the real thing just go the picture thread.

I just didn't want to offend her for my lack of enthusiasm so I pretended I was not in the mood. She gave me a CBJ.

At this point I do not know if I will return to Amuse. Presumably out of these many girls on the site, some of them are really cute enough to value 12.000 yen, maybe Cameron or Helen are cute, Cameron is indicated as 23, so maybe is a little younger than this Jina I had, site say she is 26, actually she looks 40 to me.... so if Cameron is 23, maybe she is really 35?

If some of you go there, I suggest you to try only the super-good girls and as young as possible.

For me, I think I finished with Amuse.

Please report.

TJ

Well guys, I have not post in a very long time so I thought I would give you the latest views from a long time Osaka resident. Though I now live in Nara, Osaka is where I go for mongering.

I am a bit disappointed with my old stand by Coco's after my last few visits. Back before I posted it on here, I think I was one of the few Gaijin who ever ventured in their doors and I got all kinds of extras not on the menu for free, even BBFS.

But those days seem to be gone. The girls are more used to seeing Gaijin so the novelty factor has worn off. The girls who used to do more just out of curiosity are far and few between. Plus the quality of the girls has gone down a lot as well. Still, along with Osama in Umeda it is the best of the Gaijin friendly places discussed here.

I have found a good place where I think I might be the only Gaijin they serve, and the girls are always excited to see me, plus I get the off menu extras not normally provided at Fashion Health. But this time I am keeping it a secret.

My advice to those of you who live in the Kansai area is to try to gain entrance to a shop not located in the big four areas (Umeda, Namba, Kyobashi, Tennoji) for mongering and give it a shot. Most of the girls in these shops are of the same quality as the big spots, but since they are more out of the way your chance for off menu extras are much better. Remember, most of these girls are going to be curious to try it out if you are the first Gaijin they have ever been alone with.

As for my old favorite delivery health, [url]www.galsnetwork.com[/url], they still deliver quality service. If you chose the 30,000 yen AF (Anal Fuck) course you are going to get sex. But I recommend get the 60 minute course for 15,000 and offering the girl 10,000 to fuck. It saves you 5,000 yen and from what one of the girls told me it makes more money for the girls since they don't have to split it with the shop.

A street girl update.

Tennoji is getting better. There is a section of love hotels located just north of the station area. Used to be mostly older girls, but lately I have been seeing some young Chinese and Thai girls lately. The price is usually 15,000 for an hour, but as with all the street girls they will try to make it after one pop.

So when you are working the deal just say "Ichiman gosen yen ichi gikan" In very bad Japanese it means "15,000 yen for 1 hour" Stress the ichi gikan. Also don't pay till the end of the session, it tends to insure a better session.

There used to be lots of school girls in Namba, but the area where they used to hang has not been so good lately, and Namba is not so good for street action.

Umeda has the same action with the Thai girls in the same locations across from the Tokyu Inn. Again the price is the same. Don't forget the hotel is going to run you about 3,000 to 5,000 an hour as well.

I do not recommend the Pink Light District near Shin-Imamiya Station. Overpriced for short sessions. The girls can be really hot, and the sex is good, but the 20 minute sessions are over before they begin. But for the curious, it is a fun place to take a quick walk around.

The pick-up bars are still pretty much the same. Go to any "Sam and Dave's" or "Bar Isn't It?" and you are almost certain to get some Japanese Gaijin Fucker to go home or to your Hotel.

For guys looking for full service remeber to look for an option on the menu that reads "AF" and runs anywhere from 7,000 to 20,000 extra. "AF" stands for anal fuck, which technically isn't illegal in Japan. Prostitution is classified as vaginal intercourse, so ass fucking is ok. What a country! Just remember that most girls are going to really take it up the pussy not the ass, it is just a way around the law. Although I did have girl insist we do it up the ass even when I wanted it the other way.

Good hunting guys, and as always if you have any questions, send me a message and I will try to help.

I am planning a mongering night on the town this weekend and will try to get it posted. Keep your fingers crossed for pics!

Well my night on the town went much better than expected, and all after I had given up for the evening. But more on my VERY lucky encounter in a minute.

First, the Street Walker Update.

Checked out the scene north of Tennoji Station, in front of all the love hotels you can see from overhead cross walks. Mostly older, as in middle-aged women, and not my cup of tea. Did not see the young one I had spotted before, so she may be gone. Not the best spot out there.

The two hangouts in Umeda are pretty much the same. The one behind the convience store seems to be mostly Latin Girls, and the one by the temple seems to be mostly Thai, but did see a Filipino as well. These two spots are across from the Tokyu Inn.

The one I wanted was Thai (under 5ft tall, and cute as could be, maybe 21), but before I could scoop her up a salaryman beat me to the punch. The others didn't quite measure up to her, so I decide to call it a night and just go back to Namba and Bar Isn't It. Why pay when you got a better than fifty/fifty chance to get it for free.

It was on the way back to Umeda Station that I ran into the surprise that made it worth my time to spend my money. Two girls in uniform giggled as I walked past, so I stopped and made conversation. They swore that they were 18, and being a believer in believing what my little head wants to hear, I believed them.

So after a promise of singing me lovely songs if I bought them enough to drink and maybe some spending money, off we went to get a private box and sing j-pop at the top of our lungs.

To make a long story short, they didn't use the microphone provided in the booth that much, but I wasn't complaining. I got them drunk, and the more they drank, the wilder they became. Afterwards, the generous tip was given of course, and a fun time was had by all.

And they were 18, I swear, they told me so :-)

Just follow my simple rule when it comes to J-girls, if they smile when you pass, say hello, because you never know what can happen.

[QUOTE=Sir Dick]Just finished a session at the Hadaka no Ousama and i agree to the original poster that this was a great place. The details given were very accurate. I ws there in the morning and had Minami. She was great lady and great to talk to. Will definitely go back maybe tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I have to make a note here that this forum is really a great service. While I spend quite a bit of time in Japan, I have very little experience with P4P. I'm also not in Osaka often so without the ISGIF I really wouldn't have had a clue where to go. As I found myself in Osaka with a few free hours, I got online and checked out this thread. I thought that I would post a little info in return for all of the valuable info contained in these boards.

Like I said, I didn't have a lot of time, but knew that I would be passing through the Osaka station area on my way to the shinkansen station. The posts on Hadaka Osama were quite enthusiastic and on my way so off I went.

I e-mailed a coupon to my cell phone from the Hadaka Osama website for 1000 yen off, and went to find the place. I was a bit surprised that it was right on a brightly shotengai or shopping street instead of a dark ally. I passed by the sign once, but found it on my way back.

Since I was in a hurry I opted for a 30 minute 7900 yen deal, which was 6900 with the discount. The photos on the wall were very impressive, with lots of young cuties and some “working today” stickers on quite of a few of them.

I didn't pick from the photos though and ended up with Marina, a 22 or so cutie with a nice smile, good looks and a very impressive body. Not a hard body, but great shape, no extra fat, nice b tits and faint tan lines. Overall a 7 face and 8 body on a strict scale. Definitely not disappointing.

Service was not quite GFE, but very friendly, and included kissing, 69, and bbjcim--everything but FS. Unfortunately, she spent the first 5-10 minutes or more just cleaning me up with warm water and soap, so the service was quick but good. She was on her knees, knelling over me and giving me head with me lying down when her 30 minute alarm started going. Since I had been holding back the whole time, I made sure that she knew it was not time to stop by holding her down—she got the message and kindly kept going as the alarm went off for a couple minutes before she finally took a hot load in her pretty mouth and she didn't rush me to get out as we cleaned up.

Hope to try out the harem course—2 or more girls at the same time, but that will have to wait for another time.

I have just spent two weeks odd in Japan before getting over to Osaka for a little play, I love coming to Japan and seeing how they are able to utilise space, even the tiniest amount gets used, not to mention the gadget heaven.

I have read and re-read the information in the Osaka section and one place keep springing up [b]Hadakano- Ousama[/b] so I decided to pay it a visit, hmmmm, however on my first attempt, armed only with the information provided I had to give up, this being Japan means that addresses are not straight forward as they seem. After the first night I give up trying to find this place determined not to be out-done I return the following day because this place, also a girl I saw on the web site was also working during the day shift, I strongly recommend that if you are not an Osaka local that you first print off of the map from the web site, then walk with this and ask for directions. I copied this onto my Palm organiser since I had no access to a printer here, however I had printed off the discount voucher before I had left home.

OK I had to ask three people for directions, all very helpful, I went into the establishment and the chap from behind the counter comes around to the front, I was expecting that he was here to tell me that they have no foreigners, but he welcomes me with a bow and looks pleased to have some custom at 1.40pm.

He sits me down and asks the usual questions have I been here before and I present my discount voucher which pleases him, in his poor English (and my no Japanese) he tries to explain the system, but I opt for the girl 樹利亜（じゅりあ） she tells me her name is Cale or something like that but for the sake of this post I will just refer to her as [url=www.hadakano-ousama.com/Girl/viewGirl.itf?id=2364]Cale (click for web link)[/url]

The price with the voucher, I had earlier downloaded from the web site was 12,500 ¥en (US110/£62/€93) for 45 minutes and the additional 2,000 ¥en for selecting the girl. Before I went ahead with the deed the attendant explains that there is [i]no sex or violence[/i], I think he initially though I might have been US Navy or Army because he is quite surprised when I told him I am actually English, which pleases or surprises him, because he then asks if I like Football [i](soccer)[/i] and mentions the name Beckham, I ask him which is his team and he replies he likes Chelsea.

I didn’t have to wait long after I had paid and was asked if I wanted any drinks from the vending machine. The girl only knew a couple of words of English “hello” (better than my few Japanese expressions) but that didn’t stop her talking ten to the dozen. I caught jest of what she was trying to communicate to me, with some useful hand signals, gestures, etc. Cale was slightly different to how her photos are on the website, so I guess she has been working there for some time as her hair was now much shorter.

Following the wash down, hands included, with the warm wipes etc, she then has to go and get a condom- yes, a condom, [i]WTF![/i] I was surprised, shocked as I was expecting bbbj not a cbj. Basically the session was a cbj, with some deep kissing she has no problems with me having a good feel around the only thing she doesn’t go for is when I try to insert a finger into her ass, which she gently removes. After the first pop she asks if I want more? Curious, as I had paid for 45 minutes and she agrees but by then getting ready for the session the timer off and we just clean up again, I think she was stalling for time.

I would rate this as average, I overpaid for a cbj, since I have been to Century 21 in the past and this was no where near that, in terms of service, I think next time I will stick with two girl option for 30 minutes.

On my way out suddenly there are four other guys with this guy on the reception, dressed in white shirts and black ties, for some reason trying to get me interested in some gambling deal and keeps saying it won’t take long to explain the system to me, but the only thing I gamble on in life is [i]me, myself & I[/i]. I politely decline and explain that I am in a hurry to meet up with [i]Mr Cup-pa-chino[/i] in Star Bucks. I find these guys generally to be polite if you are respectful, I have met other gangsters all over the world and unlike these [i]Yakuza[/i] types some try to be aggressive. I believe that many of the places are foreigner friendly if you are genuinely polite, dress well and are not drunk or loud. I also received their business card which gave me a discount on my next visit, with the rates of 500, 1000 & 1500 ¥en depending on the various systems you choose.

However, I did visit the areas later on in the night, the day before a Japanese bank holiday and it might be a different story if you approached them when the area is filled with [i]salarymen[/i] they might have a problem with [i]salarymen[/i] seeing [i]Gaijin[/i] visiting their favourite establishments.

[u]Directions[/u]

OK, anyone who lives in Osaka will have no trouble finding this place but as a visitor to this city its not that easy, no disrespect to some of the people that have posted direction here, but there are only two ways to find the place - one is to print out the map from the web site get out the train in Umeda and show it to people.

The second is to come out from the subway station, if you can actually locate the front or the back end of the station, then look for the Namco building ([color=red]see photo[/color]) go straight through that walkway then cross the road at the end then continue in that direction and Hadakano-ousama is located on the right hand side as you walk through. [color=red]See photo[/color]

See the website for more details [url]www.hadakano-ousama.com[/url]

Hi Guys,

I would visit Osaka for 4 days next week including Weekend! I read and re-read this Osaka forum, but still I have no idea where to go especially to pick up J-girls. I would stay at Hyatt Regency hotel by Osaka bay and is located quite far from downtown. (though I've heard that the hotel offers free shuttle bus to Osaka station ^^).

If you guys can give me some helpful information, it would be very much appreciated.

p.s. Is it okay to wear perfect suit (Armani, Boss or Ermenegildo Zegna) with decent shirt (ex. Thomas Pink etc)? I just wonder what kind of style J-girls prefer. Unfortunately, I'm Asian-american so I don't expect any 'priviledge' for our caucasian friend.

[b]Ryan0213[/b]

On your question about street pick ups for J-girls, here is some advice from what I have recently observed.

[b]Street Walkers[/b],

I used this opportunity to come over to Osaka as I prefer the shopping here, compared to Tokyo, you get better prices and its much easier to negotiate. The best thing I like is the tissues they give away at stations because for six months following a trip to Japan I never have to buy a single tissue – wow what a place!

On my trip to Hadakano-Ousama I noticed that there were several street walkers operating during the day time, but seeking out the older salary man they were approaching. And no they were not handing out tissues, I watched them for a while but several of them saw me with my camera and promptly disappeared, three were definitely Chinese the other I believe could have also been Chinese but I am not 100% on that. The time was around 2.30pm; one of them was doable the others were on the rough side and looked liked they had just come of the boat earlier that morning. I did not get an idea of the prices because they seemed to be focussed on the older salary man, however if you fancy some street action its worth a look. I have attached the photos for your judgement. ([color=red]See Photos[/color] The girls are identified by the yellow arrows)

Around this area there are a number of bars to be found that clearly spell out what is available inside, if you can read Japanese you should have no problems in this area. ([color=red]See Photo[/color])


[b]Namba[/b]
I also observed two lazy looking hookers in Namba area, I passed them several times and when I say lazy looking I mean it was like they had been riveted to the spot and did not move an inch, these two girls looked Chinese but they were not in this area until after 11pm. I also saw a couple of hookers around the [i]Ebisubashi Bridge[/i] but once again these were on the older side.

I did try the other area [b]Tennoji[/b] which I had read something about on the forum, located near to the Love in Hotels….But all I can say is: [size=3][i]“Phew..who let the dogs out here, woof woof…?”[/i][/size] These women were certainly on the rough/old end of things, I was somehow expecting a wider selection, but saw nothing here worth coming down here for considering you would also have to shell out for the hotel, so it is not cheap. If you are coming to Japan for this then please pm and I will recommend other places for you to go too where your Pound, dollar or Euro goes much further. But to be fair it’s a matter of taste, some guys actually like these types of women, so its up to you but do go with an open mind, do not expect any young J type girls these girls don’t hang around on the streets looking to pick up guys when there are so many choices available to them out there if you have a cell phone you might try one of the number of option available but I imagine that your spoken Japanese is good so you will have a better result than most, I was informed that the best route these days is via the many dating services by cell phones, but I will put my hands up here and say I don’t know much about it.

I am sure one of the regulars will give you further information here.

For reliable information on Osaka look at prior posts. Sometimes girls standing on the corner are waiting for their friends or killing time. Not all Japanese girls are prostitutes. Misleading information can get you in trouble.

[QUOTE=Cinnaman]For reliable information on Osaka look at prior posts. Sometimes girls standing on the corner are waiting for their friends or killing time. Not all Japanese girls are prostitutes. Misleading information can get you in trouble.[/QUOTE]


Dude l am insulted here, first you say that girls just standing on the corner could have been just waiting for their friends – [b]Fact[/b] I observed these girls approaching several guys over twenty-five minutes, walking away twice and coming back trying not to draw too much attention to myself, four guys during the time I observed, turned the one in boots down, quite forcefully and the other skinny girl approached one guy. Since these girls did not have any tissues in their hands what would you say they were doing – asking for the time, directions or enquiring about the weather today?

Second, if you had actually read my post you would have seen that I clearly stated the girls looked Chinese, now where did I claim these were Japanese, they could have be Korean – I do not know?

Third, I have spent several weeks in Japan and various other countries around the world from Brazil, Thailand, The Philippines & Dominican Republic and believe me I do know how to identify a hooker and tell how she behaves, I am surprised and saddened that you believe I would post such bogus information here for what purpose?

Yes, I agree not all Japanese girls are prostitutes, l would never claim such a thing; I have just spent a couple of weeks living with a girlfriend and her family in Yamanachi, spent time in Tokyo and literally seen many girls. Be rest assured [u]I do not post photos of any girl I see just waiting around[/u] if this was the case I could have posted many photos of beautiful J-Girls hanging around in [i]Ebisubashi Bridge, (Osaka)[/i], [i]Shibuya[/i] or [i]Roppongi[/i] now that would have been much better visually.

So please do me a favour, stop whining on here, if you have anything useful to post just put it up, since I have checked your four meagre posts and I am scratching my head here wondering where this reliable information you claimed to have posted is located.

Thanks so much for your information.

Personally, I would try Namba on the street as I was quite successful in Shanghai toward J-girls.

One more question is:

I've heard that Dave & Sams', Bar isn't it? is a quite famous pick-up bars. Where is it located and how can I access? How's the average percentage to pick-up girls in normal situation?

Ryan

Member 1762 is very reliable and he knows Osaka very well.

If you are new to this site look at his reports for information. If you are just starting out in Osaka try the two shops near Wendy's in Namba. They are marginal and they will try to get you to give a large tip,but they are much safer than propostioning girls on the street.

[QUOTE=Juniour][b]Street Walkers[/b]
I am sure one of the regulars will give you further information here.
[/QUOTE]Sure, here's some info for ya: those aren't streetwalkers. They most likely are Chinese, and they almost definitely are just touts for the Chinese este. At an este, you have a 50% of just getting a massage, another 45% chance of getting a hand job, and a slim 5% chance of getting anything else. Also there is a 99% chance that they will try to rip you off, and a very high percentage chance of their succeeding in this if you think you are going to get something that's not on the menu.

Despite your "several weeks" of experience in Japan, you obviously need more. You've "literally seen many girls"?? Wow.

Misleading other readers on this forum into thinking they would be getting something they won't is a disservice, so wise up before you post again.

E.S.

[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Sure, here's some info for ya: those aren't streetwalkers. They most likely are Chinese, and they almost definitely are just touts for the Chinese este. At an este, you have a 50% of just getting a massage, another 45% chance of getting a hand job, and a slim 5% chance of getting anything else. Also there is a 99% chance that they will try to rip you off, and a very high percentage chance of their succeeding in this if you think you are going to get something that's not on the menu.
[/QUOTE]

Whooo thank you, thank you, it only goes to show that you post a couple of photos and some idiot jumps the gun and makes totally incorrect assumptions.

My first question is did you actually read my post? Well obviously the answer is no, because you have made claims and assumption to things I did not state. Second, is English your third or fourth language because its quite clear you don’t understand the language.

However, we do both agree they were Chinese and that yes they were sex workers, the fact that they might be scammers is totally beside the point here. If you had actually read my post you would have know what I thought. So dude tell me where is this misleading information you claim I have posted? If you can prove to me this is misleading information, l will give you a million dollars! But the fact is you have only confirmed what I have originally stated, (go back and read it) and contradicted yourself in the process; hopefully, now guys can be wary of such scammers in future, if indeed that is what they are.

So now tell me what is your real problem here, are you vying to be top dog in this thread? Or don’t you have the balls to post something that actually might be useful to others? I thought l had met all the clowns in other threads but it seems every thread on the forum has its resident clown or wannabe clown.

I visit many countries and this is not my first time in Osaka, check my previous posts, but you talk about sharing information and yet once again I have seen nothing from you. Might I suggest that you and [b]Cinnaman[/b] get together and perhaps the two of you ‘might’ write a decent post. With only thirteen posts of little substance between the both of you, l will not be holding my breath here.

I will no doubt look forward to reading your posts, that is if you have any information to share, but I am not interested in reading your [i]bitching[/i] and [i]whining[/i] posts thanks.

[b]Ryan0213[/b]

We all have our preferred routes to meeting the opposite sex, however, despite visiting many bars from Ropppongi etc I find I get better results with the dating sites such as [url]www.asoboo.com[/url]. That is my opinion but good luck and will look forward to reading your posts.


[size=1]PS Evan Stoner - what the hell does 'este' mean?[/size]

Juniour
What's your problem? Evan Stoner is pointing out these girls are rip off artists, guess what, they are. The price for these "Sex Workers" can go from 5K for a massage to 50K for everything (which my guess is a HJ), you can go thru 3 or 4 different girls from the intial contact, best bet is to walk out with money intact and a hard on. ES is trying to warn his fellow mongers don't mess with the Chinese, they'll rip you off, whether it be Osaka or Yokohama. Thanks Evan for the info. By the way Juniour if you don't know what an este is, you haven't done any real mongering in Japan and it's obvious you haven't tried the girls you photographed. With your attitude, you're probably one of the folks that are screwing up the P4P for gaijins in Japan.

My advice, stick with PI, You'll have more luck there.

[b]Asian Nut,[/b]

All I can say once again is thank you, but I am totally confused here by your posts, first off I don’t have any problems here, it would seem that lays with some of the other posters.

But a couple of points here:

First, if Evan Stoner is trying warn fellow mongers off the Chinese scammer, then where was this information previously? (Is this some big secret?) Why was he claiming this was misleading information? I am happy to accept that these women could have been scammers but why are you waiting until now to claim this?

Second, yes I was in early Tokyo 2003 when I was working there on a project, also came over to Osaka but met a girl here so could not really go mongering with working and her.

Third, if you believe I am one of these [i]Gaijin[/i] that would pay 50,000 ¥en then you are grossly mistaken, you might - I would not, I am just sharing information here. Of course I didn’t try them, the street action I observed was not worth the money IMHO.

Do you honestly believe it is the foreigners that are putting up the prices here? I have seen this argument all over the place and in most other SE Asia countries they claim it is the Japanese who are putting up the prices there.

[size=3][u]The purpose of this forum is to share information with your fellow mongers[/u] [/size] – so then guys put this information up, share it but don’t claim, as in Cinnaman’s case, that these were ordinary girls just waiting for friends. We have gone from these not being working girls to now being scammers – so which is it? I now believe I was correct to post these photos, we should post photos of such scammer, as a warning to fellow mongers, but work with me not against me.

You are all carrying on like spoilt children here; it feels like only certain people are allowed to post information in this section, it amusing to say the least.

Asian Nut actually I go all over the place and I have been to Bangkok more times than the Philippines, and I am currently on-route to the place again, in a couple of weeks but I will go where the [i]fuck[/i] I want dude and post what I observe. But take my advice here and note, [i]that in life you have to make your own luck not seek it.[/i]

I too was suspect about Junior's pictures of "streetwalkers", but if he saw them approach many guys over a period of time, then who am I to doubt him. Maybe they were working for an este, maybe a karaoke shop, maybe independents...we'll never know because Junior didn't ask (since they were not so attractive I don't blame him in the least).

I think the other locals are being too harsh with Junior, and he is over-reacting to their warnings regarding Chinese.

Let's get back to posting useful info about our experiences, not hypotheticals....

Just a couple of bit a pieces of useful tips to share with my fellow mongers or anyone planning on coming over to Osaka, I was fortunate that I stayed in the same hotel I stayed in previously at a rate of only 10,000¥, per night, the hotel is girl friendly and centrally located on top of Namba station. Compared to other hotels in the vicinity its not that much different only about 2,000¥ more expensive although when they were full they were quoting Japanese style rooms at 50,000¥ and western suites at 80,000¥. Look at their web site for any special offers available, but I personally think its in a ideal location.

[url]www.osaka.swissotel.com[/url]

The second bit of advice is if you are coming or going on the [I]Shinkansen[/I] (Bullet Train) to Osaka is it worth jumping on the Midosuji Line to get into Namba, but I say this depending on the time of day, avoid peak times as the metro gets very busy.


The third tip is to those of you like myself who enjoy a good curry, and I mean a proper curry and not the type of stuff the most Japanese tend to like, full of sweet thick sauce, what used to be served up in my old school days. In some parts of England if the Japanese style of curry was served up at 11pm on a Friday night you are more than likely to be beaten to death, (a quite rightly so).

Located in the Doutonbori area, Mithila, 2F, 1-6-14 Dontonbori, Chuo-ko, Osaka Tel: 06-6484-0480


Finally, if you are coming to Japan and are seeking company you can do no harm by registering you details on World Friends web site, [url]www.personals.japanvisitor.com[/url] if you write an interesting profile I can assure you that you won’t be alone for long. But its worth putting your name on as many sites as possible.

I can't speak Japanese. Did anybody know which fuzoku shop accept foreigners without knowing Japanese?

Thank you

Thanks to all for the reports and the detailed directions.

However, it does not seem easy to reach this place.
I would like to go there next week and I do not want to miss it (only one night to make the attempt), so I found this map of the area.
Would it be possible for those who know to give me (and other members) directions using named landmarks ?

Thanks in advance !

It's directly behind one of the Tokyu.. sorry can't remember which one. Tokyu Inn or Tokyu. You can actually walk there using the underground. If you exit the Osaka station, there is a info booth just outside next to stairs going on to a pedestrian bridge. Ask the ladies there who speaks English how to get to The Tokyu.. The one that you can get there by underground. Just say you are meeting a friend there or something if they ask. Once you get the directions, just go to Tokyu...take the main street. As you are walking towards Tokyu, you will have to walk past a side street before getting to the front door of Tokyu and you will see that at the end of this side street there are tons of lights...go towards it (don't worry it is not a scary side street. Once you get to the street (or covered arcade area) turn right...and it is on the right hand side. In effect, it is directly behind the Tokyu. Hadaka is almost nearly to the end. And it is not just sex shops, there are restaurants in the area too. Good luck.. Just keep saying Hai, wakarimasu (the u is silent) when the guys is explaining the rules to you.

Hello Punter,

I know the anxiety of searching for the naked king, but the information that is already available in these forums can get you there easily with just a slightly larger map of the area. Have a look at this one:

[url]http://www.tourism.city.osaka.jp/en/area_osaka/map/map_kita.html[/url]

Basically the same as yours (size does matter in this case), but with more info in English to help you along. That map, plus this excellent picture from Juniour, is all you need to find the place.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=28942[/url]

Here is how I have explained the locale to a few people:

1. LANDMARK! Check that larger map again. One of the easiest landmarks near the Hankyu line Umeda station is the giant red Ferris wheel atop the Hep Five Navio building [url]http://www.livehep.com/about/index2.asp[/url] . If you are coming out of the station and you cannot easily locate the red Hep building with the big wheel on top, then you are probably not on the correct side of the station. Look for signs (everywhere in English) that point to Hep or Navio. Additionally, if you see the large Yodabashi camera building in front of you, you are on the wrong side of the station. Go back through and pop out the other side.

2. Looking slightly right of centre on the map, lower-right of the Hankyu Umeda Station, you can see Hep Five on top with Hep Navio below. At the base of Hep Navio the building comes into a point (a pedestrian crossing island between two big streets) just above the words Hankyu Grand Bldg. This is where Juniour took his picture across the street towards the Namco building. The yellow arrow is pointing towards the covered shopping street known as Higashidori St. with Hep Navio out of the picture but just barely showing on the left.

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3. As Juniour said, “look for the Namco building (see photo) go straight through that walkway then cross the road at the end then continue in that direction and Hadaka no-Ousama is located on the right hand side as you walk through.” On the big map, the covered street is indicated by the dark pink line that starts beneath the words Hankyu Grand Bldg and ends just above the words Osaka Tokyu Inn, a location that is frequently mentioned by other posters as another landmark. You will not likely see Tokyu Inn if you are focused forward in the covered shopping area and if you run out of cover then you’ve gone too far, but Hadaka is almost at the end of the covered area so don’t turn back too early.

4. Really can’t make it much clearer, but other landmarks along the way include video game arcades and the New Japan Sauna capsule hotel, distinctive for its television screens in the windows showing customers enjoying massages, saunas and dips in the pools. See this on the left and Hadaka is within 50 meters on the right.

In addition to Hadaka, the map shows lots of places that other posters have referenced for other activities. The Tokyu Inn is across the street from Taiyuji Temple, a spot that MANY folks have mentioned as the place to find various nationalities’ street walkers, including the infamous Chinese massage girls that really aren’t offering anything more than a simple (read “LAME”) massage for 5,000yen for 30 minutes. You can also find the Whity Umeda underground shopping mall, yet another popular reference point from some other helpful folks.

Sorry all if I really went for overkill in this explanation, but after years of perusing these forums and my own experience of not being able to find Hadaka one day (even with the Japanese map from their web site in hand), I thought I would try and kick in my two cents. Once you’ve been you realize how incredibly easy it is to find the place, but it is all about the landmarks that will get the out-of-towners to the correct starting point.

Best of luck getting there everyone and be sure to throw a knowing grin at any male foreigners wandering around down there. You just might have me grinning back at you after another fine afternoon at Hadaka no Ousama.

Cheers

Ok, so I’ve been in Osaka for a couple of years now. Thanks to all the fine people who have posted here, I’ve been able to hit all the most well known places in the area and even branched out on my own to have a go at a few other spots. Trips to Hadaka no Ousama, Doutonbori CoCos and a couple of Korean Este shops have all made life in Japan a bit more en-joyable/durable. However, though I’m not a particularly shy person, I have always despised those few moments of exposure on the street just before and after you pop in to these places. The fear that one day I might come bounding out the door from an establishment straight into the sightline of coworkers exiting restaurants or walking the strip (very possible around Hadaka and CoCos) I decided it was time to have a go at the comfort and privacy of the delivery services. Thanks to posts by Member 1762, among others, I figured it should be pretty easy. I’ve ordered home delivery on pizzas, ramen, sushi, taxis, refrigerators and even my dry cleaning. All in Japanese. All without so much as a hiccup. How hard could it be? Before I made the call(s), I had my hotel all squared away and I knew the address and approximate location if I was asked.

Hotel Ceeds [url]http://www.netoneto-net.com/hotel/ceeds/index.htm[/url] is a pretty comfortable place to stay. You can get rooms from a couple of hours to an all night stay from 3,000 for a business hotel type room to 22,000 for the slightly plush Imperial. It’s located on the street directly across from the Osaka Tokyu Inn entrance, in front of the temple where the street girls hang out. [url]http://www.tourism.city.osaka.jp/en/area_osaka/map/map_kita.html[/url] . Since I live outside of Umeda central, I’ve even used the hotel as a quick staging area on a hot afternoon. After walking around all day in the nasty summer humidity, it was worth 3,000 yen to have a clean room where you could grab a cold drink, nice shower and freshen up a bit before hitting the bar scene and girly hunt.

Anyway, back to the phones. So I gave [url]http://www.galsnetwork.com/[/url] a call on their Osaka number at 06-4301-8133. After a few rings, the phone was answered by a man with a short “Haiiiii”. That was it. No introduction or anything else. Just “Hai”. The conversation that followed IN JAPANESE went something like this:

Me: This is galsnetwork, yeah?
GN Dude: What can I do for you? Actually, could you hold a second.
(Puts me on hold with the happy jingle music for three or four minutes)
GN Dude coming back from hold: Hai Hai?
Me: (again) Yeah, this is galsnetwork?
GN: What do you need?
Me: I was wondering if Hana, Luka or Megu (all girls listed on their site, scheduled for that evening in Osaka) would be available for a visit to Hotel Ceeds in Umeda? It’s just across from the Tokyu Inn.
GN: Sorry, could you wait once more please.
(This time he just puts the phone down, not on hold, and I can here all the commotion in the back from the sounds of various guys taking calls. He picks the phone up again with…) who did you want?
Me: Hana, Luka or Megu
GN: There is no one here by that name.
Me: Oh, well I’m reading their names here on your website. But if not, then maybe you could suggest…(But before I could get the rest of this sentence out, he broke in with…)
GN: Where are you from?
Me: I’m in Umeda.
GN: No, what country are you from? (CRAP! I knew what he meant the first time, but that question doesn’t usually bode well in these situations, and sure enough.)
Me: Oh, I’m from the States.
GN: Sorry, but we don’t accept foreign customers.
Me: (Desperate to save this transaction and lying through my teeth now) Oh, really? But I’ve used the service before without any problems.
GN: Again, very sorry, but we don’t take foreign customers.
And that was that.

So, off to Hadaka no Ousama once again, but crest fallen that I couldn’t get the delivery deal to go through.

Any advice from people that have used this service or another like it? I would really like to hear from someone that has had success and not just “heard from a friend” that it’s possible to have “delivery health”. I’m not fluent in Japanese, but I can hold my own in these kinds of transactions. Again, I’ve never had problems getting delivery on other non-health related services and I’m perfectly comfortable chatting with the doormen at places like CoCo’s. I’m hoping that maybe I was the victim of a bad draw on whomever randomly answered the phone, but the guy did stop once or twice to chat with others in the room about the “no foreigner” policy and was quite adamant. I had also called on a Monday early (around 6pm) to leave room to work around the “we’re too busy to deal with foreigners tonight” excuse which you might occasionally encounter.

So, who has a solution? As I’ve said, though I enjoy the services at the popular shops, I hate going into them and risk being seen coming out. I’m also not a big fan of the perverted doctor’s waiting room that you have to endure with your fellow mongers before you get your turn. I swear, the elevator Muzack version of “The Girl from Ipanema” pops into my head every time I go through it. I like the idea of kicking up my feet on a bed, fresh out of the shower, drinking a beer and watching tv while I’m waiting for the girl I want to come visit. Only hotel health is going to get you that.

If someone is able to offer assistance and proof positive that these services are available to us gaijin to order up, I’m sure I could find it in my heart and wallet to comp you a big discount on a little hotel visitor for yourself as well.

Any takers?

Cheers all

Delivery services in Japan can be very unfriendly to foreigners, even with a high degree of language fluency. It is so risky I would not now think of buying a hotel room purely for sex service before first lining up the service. Last time I tried as DS (in Toyama) I had to telephone seven or eight services before getting any hint of a positive response. The eventual deal was the mamasan came to the hotel with the girl to check me out and reassure the girl, it was HJ only, and it was expensive.

In your case, Osakarbp, they picked you as a foreigner from your very first couple of spoken words, in those next 3-4 minutes they may have checked with a couple of the girls, but no-one was willing to put up their hand for a first experience with a gaijin.

One strategy I have used, especially in a small hotel, is to present yourself very nicely, tell the hotel reception that you would like a girl and let them make the telephone calls. There are a couple of advantages in this. First they can give an independent assessment about you to the DS. Second, some of the delivery services leave their contact information with hotel receptionists, and therefore will be interested in maintaining a productive relationship with the hotel managment. But ultimately it will depend on a girl saying she is prepared to do a gaijin.

I live in Tokyo. The thing I have going at the moment is a weekly meeting (FS) in a hotel for Y20,000 with a Korean girl I met at a Korean esute. I have never had any sign of rejection at a Korean esute, and the girls are usually friendly and responsive.

[QUOTE=Lubricate It]Delivery services in Japan can be very unfriendly to foreigners, even with a high degree of language fluency. It is so risky I would not now think of buying a hotel room purely for sex service before first lining up the service. Last time I tried as DS (in Toyama) I had to telephone seven or eight services before getting any hint of a positive response. The eventual deal was the mamasan came to the hotel with the girl to check me out and reassure the girl, it was HJ only, and it was expensive.

In your case, Osakarbp, they picked you as a foreigner from your very first couple of spoken words, in those next 3-4 minutes they may have checked with a couple of the girls, but no-one was willing to put up their hand for a first experience with a gaijin.

One strategy I have used, especially in a small hotel, is to present yourself very nicely, tell the hotel reception that you would like a girl and let them make the telephone calls. There are a couple of advantages in this. First they can give an independent assessment about you to the DS. Second, some of the delivery services leave their contact information with hotel receptionists, and therefore will be interested in maintaining a productive relationship with the hotel managment. But ultimately it will depend on a girl saying she is prepared to do a gaijin.

I live in Tokyo. The thing I have going at the moment is a weekly meeting (FS) in a hotel for Y20,000 with a Korean girl I met at a Korean esute. I have never had any sign of rejection at a Korean esute, and the girls are usually friendly and responsive.[/QUOTE]

I agree with everything Lub said. It is tough sometimes, and I always take a list of about 10 DH services to make sure the hotel payment doesn't go to waste. Made the mistake of waiting for 45 min for a callback from Gals Net, and then when I called them seems they'd forgotten about me and said it would be another hour before for a girl could get to me. I was out of time, so had to check out...

Twice I managed to get girls, and once they arrived they provided good/very good service (no FS though). They had no prior knowledge that they were about to meet a foreigner, so either the guy on the phone didn't tell them or my Japanese was extra smooth. The trick is to mumble and not speak in sentences...

If any fluent guys out there want to post a full conversation we'd all be happy to take it to our J-teachers for practice...haha.

Dear Lion and Lubricate It, thank you for your infos about DH.

It seems that making several telephone calls, at the end pays out. It IS possible to have services from DH even if you are a foreigner...!

I tried sometime ago, never made it because I gave up after few failed, frustrating calls.

Can you please tell us some more additional infos about those DHs you succeeded with...? (name of the services, telephone numbers, link, etc )

I had some success with a DH in osaka specialized in foreigner girls. I posted details, tel. numbers and names in my last two reports.

Thanks in advance,

TJ

Public thanks to all friends who gave directions, posting or by PM.

Now, I can't really miss it !

Found Hadakano-Ousama but it was useless

Again thanks to everybody for the directions.
Once you get there it is very easy to find it.
However, I was refused (maybe all of you happy customers of this institution are Japanese).

I tried to follow suggestions given in various posts.
I do not look ugly, I dressed well (tie and jacket), I acted politely, I kept smiling.
Guy there asked me “Speak a little Japanese ?”. I replied “Hai”, and “Hai” again at every sentence he said. However, after half a minute he realized I do not understand nor speak Japanese. So, said “Oh, I am sorry only Japanese speaking”.
Then I said I went there already, I knew the system, showed discount coupon from website, …. . No result.
He said “Sorry, new rule”. I insisted a little bit. He only repeated “New rule”.
Frustrated, I left.

Same old story repeats. After 10 years I come to Japan, I only laid with a girl once.
This was merit of a fellow monger (Japanese, of course) who took care of me.

I travelled (and mongered) in many countries and I think that only in Japan you get refused by prostitutes because of your passport (or just because you do not speak the language – this is a good motivation to learn basics).
Obviously I do not want to open a debate about causes and if this is right or wrong, etc. . I am just making a comment about the uniqueness of this attitude.

Fortunately I managed to have fun anyhow.

Following suggestions of some posters, I have made some contacts through Asoboo website.
I sent out a message clearly stating what I was looking for, to about 60 girls (I did not send it to non-Japanese or to those only reading Japanese).

I got 7 replies and started to correspond by e-mail, exchanging pictures.
3 girls were willing to meet me (and to have sex).
One was ugly, too much overweight. So I skipped her, even though she was the most “receptive” of my message.
Another one was not available night I was available.
Third one, a real cute girl, was available night I was available.
So we went out and we enjoyed very nice conversation during dinner at my hotel.
I played slow and at end of dinner it seemed she was ready. So I tried to take her hand and to kiss her (we were only customers at that time). She declined as she normally does not do that in public.
Then I invited her to my room (to be in private). She admitted she would have accepted to be kissed, but was afraid to go further. So we did not go.
I kept calm and said to her we could have met following night (my last night in Osaka, but she did not know).

In order to satisfy my hunger I went to Hadakano-Ousama, where I was not successful (as reported previously).

Following night, we met and we had dinner in a shopping centre. In the elevator we were alone and she accepted to be kissed. I was able to touch a little bit her hand at the table. She looked more relaxed in general. We kissed again in the elevator going down.
Outside shopping centre we had short discussion: she did not want to come to my room, but I was able to convince her.
Night was something special that I believe I will always remember.

On one side certainly I satisfied my need of Japanese food, but on the other side I think I have increased it.

[QUOTE=Albert Punter]Fortunately I managed to have fun anyhow.
Night was something special that I believe I will always remember.

On one side certainly I satisfied my need of Japanese food, but on the other side I think I have increased it.[/QUOTE]

Glad to here you had success. I am not surprised it took 2 dates. First dates are too fast for most J-girls (not all though).

Was this a paid experience or a freebie?

What were the girls asking for via Asoboo (in yen)?

It was a freebie experience.
This is reason I had good luck.

All replies I got to my message were from freebies.
So I do not know about yen rates for pros.

After an enjoyable experience in Tokyo I was hoping to repeat in Osaka. Had funded some hopes in 2 hostess girls from Kitashinshi that I have known for a little while (my company is a supplier for bars so I do visit them while on business) but it didn't work out. I come to Japan twice per year, and have started to know a few of these girls from upscale places but have only managed to score twice. I am not bad looking, speaks a fair amount of the local lingo, spends on my company (hopefully, because boy these places are super expensive, bills easily get into the 100 to 200 KY just for drinks and girls talking and pouring you drinks) but I guess you need to be a real regular to get a decent scoring ratio.

Anyway having done my RTTF, I decided to visit Hadaka no Ousama based on member #3882 previous experience. Headed there after a late dinner with just basic directions to get there and couldn't find the damn place… What I didn't get is that the street it is on is not really a street, but more a commercial arcade (called Hankyu Higashi Dori Shyotengai). My advice is you want to find without any problems is to print the map included in a previous post and ask locals (Japanese will almost always try to help a lost gaijin) or as suggested by #3882 stop by the information centre outside the JR Osaka Station. They will provide you with a map in Japanese and in English so you can easily decipher the street and shop names. You could also ask a J friend or colleague, but be aware that the name of the place is pretty much self-explanatory so they will know what you are looking after. For the non-Japanese speaker, Hadaka means naked or nude, and Ousama means King so literally it means the king of naked (Japanese experts, you may correct me if I'm wrong, there could be other interpretations with sama as customer)… So don't pretend to be looking for a souvenir shop (well, depends on what kind of souvenir you're after…).

So I decided to visit on the next day, as I didn't have any meeting before 1 pm. Went there late morning and found the place right away. On the same street there is a place called New Japan Sauna (which seems legitimate) not too far, and also a cheap sushi restaurant Genroku (where I "refuelled" after my visit). The current sign is indeed brown and not green as it had been displayed in an earlier post, so here is a new picture to help you.

On the 3rd floor the tout greets you; he is absolutely Gaijin friendly provided that you promise to behave according to the rules (no penetration). Again read the post from member 3882, he is spot on. He will ask you if you know the rules (say "Hai" or "wakarimashita") and keep smiling, and it should let you in. He showed me the options available and I picked the 3P -12000TY deal (me and 2 girls for 30 min). As I was there quite early (11 am, btw the place operates from 10 am to 1 am), the selection was probably not as wide as later in the day but after a few minutes I was introduced to Julia and Yo-u. Julia was tall, slim, with some tattoos, probably a 6 rather than a 7 in my books, and Yo-u was short, a bit too plump for my taste, I'd rate her a 5. Both girls took my hand and led me into a nice room. After sitting they undressed me very gently, folding my clothes, kissing me all over and then started to clean my didi (the hot water spray feels good). Then they made me lie on the bed and the fun started. Massage, kisses, and I played with the better looking Julia (DFK, Daty,..) and let Yo-u do the bbbj. She was actually very skilled and after close to 20 mn (don't know haw I hold it that long) I came in her mouth and you know what, she took it all and never swallowed (well Member 3888 I suspect your girl Minami did the same). Soon after I came the bell ring indicating 7 mn left, so I asked for a 4 hand massage which was a nice way to end the session.

Upon leaving the dude asked me if I was happy with the girls, to which I said "totemo yokatta! = very good). I didn't get to answer the customer survey but was given a discount ticket for my next visit (from 500Y to 1500Y off depending on your session). Now THAT is what I call great Customer Service!!!

I realize this is post looks quite similar to what Member#3882 posted but since Albert Punter couldn't get into this place (too bad, really, but I guess you need to know a little bit of Japanese, the "Hai Hai" answer is not quite enough), I thought I had to confirm that if you are in Osaka, this is for sure a great place to visit.
Have fun!

Have been here a few times and got good service, epsecially considering I am a Caucasian with only basic Japanese.

Was turned away last night after waiting a few minutes for staff to show up. They seemed to be too busy for the night. They apologized and asked if I could come back during daytime. So I did, and had no problem getting in.

Mindighet Lechat and Wabbit,

I am glad to know that I was the only unlucky who was turned away.
Maybe night I went different touts were on duty or maybe just bad luck.

Hello Juniour,

I am flying to Osaka in 22th till 23th of November next week. I came across and read abt this forum and I would like to have some leads and places for some 'fun'. If you could email me the leads ~[blue][Email Address deleted by Admin][/blue]
Or call me if possible to meet up at night during my stay in Osaka at 080 3203 3745

Leon

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I have been playing in Japan for about 6 years now and the Naked King ranks right up there with the best I have been to. Found the place easily after reading the earlier posts and had no problem entering. Mind you I went early...like 1 o'clock. Because I had some extra cash on hand this month, I decided to treat myself to an hour long 3P. I let the man pick the girls (I was feeling lucky I guess) and after a quick fingernail check was led to a big room by Minami and Ran. The man picking the girls is batting .500 I guess. Minami gave great GFE and speaks some English. Ran's (a little on the big side of things) role the entire hour was basically licking my balls and nipples while Minami took care of the rest. As reported in earlier posts, no sex is allowed which is too bad because Minami felt really tight.

As for pay for play with no sex this place is tops with me. On the way out the door I was treated extremely well by all 3 of the touts and was given a discount card for my next visit. Great experience

Hi,

Just landed in Osaka for few days trip and visited Tobita (hope spelling is correct) the traditional RDL near Tennoji.

A straighforward way to reach the area. Maybe I will make you walk 10 minutes, but you can't miss it. Only straight until a clear landmark. Here it is : get a map of Osaka underground system (you can have one free in any station, just ask the staff they will give you one free in english).

Reach station "Hanazonocho", go to exit 3A. You'll pop out on a pavement at a main traffic light. Do not cross the road, just turn left and follow the pavement. Go straight down following the main road, keep on the left side. Walk for about 5-6 minutes, about 500m. In correspondence to traffic light -the 6th- you will see a small convenience store called "Bread and Food", it has a yellow neon panel resembling a sun. You can't miss it.

Turn left in the small road at this traffic light and you will be in right in the heart of the district. You will notice the white first lanterns of the shops. There is a network of small roads with many shops.

Mamasan are inside with girl on display sited nearby, walk slowly and look at the girls there, sooner or later some of them will call you in. Basically it is a gaijin-friendly district, I went twice and had no problem to be accepted, even if -lets say- about 60% of shop mamasan did not call me in.

I only visit this place during midday or early afternoon because I read in this forum that is a dangerous place. Actually it looks a little eary, with strange people an bums walking around the station area. In the district itself I saw less people... however the air was sort of screaming "behave.... behave....".

In other words I do not think it is a place to go drunken or in groups with "happy" friends, like in the central RLDs. It is the heart of old-style japanese sex life, so its better to be cool there.

If you speak some japanese will help a lot, anyway I don't and everything went smooth.

It is a nice japanese old stile experience. Take care and be safe.

TJ

[QUOTE=Teddy Johnwa]Hi,

It is a nice japanese old stile experience. Take care and be safe.

TJ[/QUOTE]

Good helpful report-only thing missing was the girl and the cost. Care to elaborate?

Went down Hadako no Ousama~ the ushers by the door welcome me in, went up the place, and I was told that the girls were fully booked~ he gave me a member card and ask me come an hour later.. I came back one hour later, I tried to go in and take the elevator~ and someone stopped me because I dun speak japanese and he told me to go in the afternoon instead.. He said only the girls in the afternoon shift speaks a little bit of english, so deska and I left with disappointment.. Anyway, I did explore and ask around the nearby shops of their services~ mostly they serve food & drinks for an hour for a net price of 3000yen~5000yen. No touching,no kissing,no sex, only eating,drinking and talking with japanese girl~ more like buffet with japanese girl... I move on to find CoCo in Shinsaibashi's river~ went towards the bridge~ tries to follow the instruction of the earlier postings~ I turn till meet the dead end, seems like there is a lot of construction by the river and I dun see any subway shops.

The last place I went, shinodayama JR station~ followed the instructions of the previous postings ~ walking along the railway (5 minutes) ,till I saw a row of shops, and turned in the first small alley.. as I walked into the valley I saw a few motels with the attendants.. Ask you to pay for the room~ 2500yen, ask you to pay the girl 5000yen for 30 minutes. I said my preferences for the girl~ pretty,slim,young ~ where everyone wants, you can't expect it to be perfect~ waited in the room for 10 minutes. Attendant calls the girl~ and she walked into the house. Nice to screw, she makes nice sex vocals~ Blow without condom, and perhaps anything you wish. Depends on your luck, you cant choose the girls, but girls various from house to house.

If you can just wait ard and see the girls going and coming from the house, roughly you can describe the girls you want on that particular house. I went there at 5pm~ its almost dark at that time, the streets are very lonely over there and ppl over there are over cautious, just beware if something really happens.

[QUOTE=Lion]Good helpful report-only thing missing was the girl and the cost. Care to elaborate?[/QUOTE]

sorry guys: I do not remember the name of the girl. If you walk in the maze of small roads you will see them waiting in the lobby, so choose the one fits your taste. The price was 11.000 yen for 20 minutes, but at 14:00 there was no customer and I was there for more than 30min.

TJ

Just to second what TJ said, I went over there last Saturday before lunch. It's pretty easy to find. I don't think the elevated highway was visible behind the buildings on the left when you exit the subway. Anyway, I didn't go down the street as far as he recommended. I cut across between the second and third lights and went into a covered arcade.

I came out just above the big bend in the map and was immediately in the RLD. Several mamasan's called out, but I wanted to look around a little. Probably only a quarter of the shops were open and they only had one girl seated inside. A couple of shops closed their doors as I approached and ostentatiously clicked the locks as I passed, but at least half seemed actively willing to take my money.

I didn't get too far, only down one street really. Picked a girl with a nice smile. She turned out to be about 5'6" she had a puffy white prom dress on. There is no way to say which street or shop it was. Kicked off my shoes and into the sandals, went upstairs with her following. Kicked off the sandals and went into the tatami room with a futon on the floor and a small table. We made a few minutes of very small talk before she went and got some tea and a hand towel. She wanted 15k yen despite the sign on the wall that said 11k. She was fairly cute, so I went with it. A few minutes later I had undressed myself and she had unwrapped. Nice bod, not too much hair on the quim. She sat me down and applied the wrapper straight away. CBJ with okay technique. She put up with a couple of minutes of DATY then told me to get going. I did all the work while she made encouraging noises. She let me know when my time was nearly up.

There is a lot to be said for doing a traditional Japanese girl in the tatami like someone out of a ukiyo-e print. And it was no questions asked full service with no guess work on the girl. However it was definitely not a GFE and everything was covered. If you got the right girl it could be really good, but based on my limited experience, unless you're really into FS, Coco's is a better bet.

As I was leaving at noon several of the shops were open but unoccupied. The seats had embroidered covers on them indicating, I suspect, Out to Lunch. A couple of cops were bicycling down the street while I was leaving. They didn't seem particularly interested in me.

I bet there are more shops open and more girls to choose from in the afternoon, but I'd note that some of the locals along the street and in the arcade seemed unfriendly. I'd avoid the arcade and I would definitely not go there after after dark. Like TJ said, stay cool.

SbySW

[QUOTE=Osakarbp]3. As Juniour said, “look for the Namco building (see photo) go straight through that walkway then cross the road at the end then continue in that direction and Hadaka no-Ousama is located on the right hand side as you walk through.”[/QUOTE]I agree that looking for the Namco building is the way to go. After following previous instructions, I stood right in front of the Namco building and thought that this was the building. However, you have to go for another minute or two.

Anyway, the experience I had at the Naked King was really great. Staff was very polite and friendly, even though I didn't speak any Japanese at all. I took P3 and let him choose two girls for me. I was not to be disappointed... it was amazing to have two girls at the same time. I had You and Kaori. Kaori in particular is great - she's good looking and makes a great effort. You was pretty good too.

After I was done, I got a card which'll give me a rebate for the next time. It also contains contact details.

Here's the card I was given: the front site contains contact information.

The backside of the card: the name of the girls and a rebate for future visits.

[QUOTE=South By Sw 2]Just to second what TJ said...There is a lot to be said for doing a traditional Japanese girl in the tatami like someone out of a ukiyo-e print. And it was no questions asked full service with no guess work on the girl. However it was definitely not a GFE and everything was covered. If you got the right girl it could be really good, but based on my limited experience, unless you're really into FS, Coco's is a better bet.
SbySW[/QUOTE]

Sunday 10am a few weeks back was a bit slow. About 25% of shops had lanterns turned on. Mostly women in 40s/50s. Then spotted one closer to 20s and went in. All the mama-sans welcomed me, which is a rare situation in Japan usually.

I was surprised how clean and neat everything was. Nicer than a pink/health salon. Menu was 20min/16,000 to 40,000/60min. Sign said "from 11,000" but girl said that was too short...

She was a 6-7 on top and face, but a 4-5 due to stretch marks around stomach (cecerian perhaps?). Covered BJ for about 5min. then she said get on top. Nicely tight, but not too much so. 10 min later done, and out the door at 20min mark.

Good service, but not GFE to be sure.

HOW TO GET THERE and stay out of the sun/rain: previous directions are fine. One more way is to get off at Dobutsuenmai. Take exit #2 use the escalator. Turn right at the coffee shop and walk down the covered arcade for about 5 min. When you get to a large pachinko hall called New Osaka (in Japanese), turn left and walk about 100m (you'll go under the expressway). You'll then see a red post box on left-turn right though and you'll be in the heart of the district.

Lion,

I agree with you that Dobutsuenmae is the way to go. The only thing is make sure that you make the right at the pachinko place, otherwise if you keep going straight on the right side is a yakuza house which hassels the crap out of you.
Hadaka no ousama -- I think the best place in Osaka. After the session I always hit the internet cafe place on the way back to Hankyu on the righthand side for a quick drink and shower. It costs under 1000 yen and I hated getting on crowded trains reeking of sex.

Juso -- There is another place that allows gaijin in the Napoleon Building, I forget the name but it is on the third floor under the Boston Club (Strip Club) that also is friendly.

SG scene -- I worked in Tennoji and usually checked out the SG scene. Lately the pickings have been slim.

Keep up the good work!

The website for hadako no osama is down. I took a walk by the andthe signs have been removed from the building and the usual sign was not out front. I was in a rush so I didnt go up and check but it looks like it is gone.

Anybody have any info?

Dear mongers, I am from india and am coming in to osaka for 2 nights of 19th & 20th december. Staying at the Hilton. Any tips for wild orgies?

Had a DH recently. Cute enough with nice tits as requested. Age 21 with nice skin. No FS though despite a request, and only one BJ (good) in 60 minutes.

Had a coupon for Y2,000 off from website but appartently I must "mention the coupon when ordering" or no deal. After an hour of waiting I didn't want to argue.

I have the ordering down to the point the girls show up not knowing I am a white guy. They don't leave, which is good, but not good enough for FS so far.

[QUOTE=Osaka Brian]The website for hadako no osama is down. I took a walk by the andthe signs have been removed from the building and the usual sign was not out front. I was in a rush so I didnt go up and check but it looks like it is gone.
Anybody have any info?[/QUOTE]

...yeah... I was there few days ago in the morning, the signs were there in the street, but went up and found the door closed. No messages, apparently no infos for the customers. Cheked the site few minutes ago, still looks down....

HNO is one of the best choices, would be a pity if it is gone. For sure the businness was running well, never tried on fri or sat...? Hours of waiting.

I wander what happened, maybe there was trouble with yakuzas...? if somebody has better infos post it here. Thanks.

TJ

They might have moved to one of the small streets behind the Sonezaki police station. I saw a sign there a few weeks ago

please tell me that you're right man. I enjoy so much being a naked king of japan...

Here is an area that might have not been mentioned in the Osaka reports before it is in Umeda. Before I give directions let me make it clear that you will not get a Japanese girl here. Most likely they are from the Philippines or China and I can not quote a reliable price or make any comment about the service. Alomost everytime I walk through this area I am propositioned by a male or female who offers to take me to a hotel to meet a girl.

Directions-find the Dai-san building -there is a shrine across the street from it. Cross the street and walk a block - you should be able to see an elevated highway. Now look for a lawsons and a drug store (on your side of the street). Cross the street and look for the parking garage. Walk up the street next to the parking garage. On your right there will be some massage parlors (which take only Japanese) and on the left a parking lot surrounded by a wall. Walk until you copme to a cross road. On the left is a red hotel you should be able to find the tout outside of it. The is a very small shrine and a flower shop near the hotel.

Once again, I don't believe that you can get a young Japanese girl there and I can't recomend it, but I have been consistently propositioned there in broken English.
If you've been in Osaka for a long time then it would be very near where the BigBoy was. Now there is a very tall white apartment building there.

Does anyone have more on Hadako no osama further to Mountebank's report?

Does anyone have any good information on other salons, fashion health, etc., but specifically not este, that take gaijin. Hadaka was the best and I hope it moved and didn't close, but don't hold out much hope.

Someone posted about a place in Juso and I heard about a place called coco's in Namba. What are the details for these places?

Any and all help is appreciated.

I have it on good authority that Hadaka is no more-and no indication it has renamed itself or moved either.

Coco's website is not working for me for some reason-stuck on the opening page.

Time for some of you lurkers to hit the streets and discover some new foreigner-friendly places. If you do find one, report back, and if you are worried about spoiling the discovery, then withhold the name and only give it out in PMs to regular posters.

Korean DH has been a guaranteed FS usually, but I have yet to try Osaka's. For a while I couldn't seem to find one-now I see ten listed. I myself will give it a go when I get the chance.

Who else wants to TOFTT?

Why not give a call and see if you get lucky (and laid)?

[url]http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f06/f06_0117.htm[/url]


I think this looks promising:
[url]http://i-maihime.com/main.html[/url]

They pictures show the same background, which means they were all taken at the same place-and they SAY you get the girl in the photo (if available). Also, they mention cost and how many shots-others don't promise that.

Went to Tobita for the first time on Sunday. Easy to find thanks to the directions on the board.

Walked around the area for some time and found approx. 60 shops operating at 8 pm. Around 15 of them invited me in. When I say shop, it means: a small house with a girl and a mama-san waiting for passers-by.

Some of the girls could easily qualify to be mama-san, but there also were some real stunners. Price is around 10k per 15 minutes, incl. CBJ and FS.

Went for a very pretty J-girl, around 22, nice B breasts and was not disappointed.

Now guys, let's make sure not to spoil this area that is still welcoming to gaijin.

[QUOTE=Wabbit]Now guys, let's make sure not to spoil this area that is still welcoming to gaijin.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't have said it better.

This is regarding hadaka no ousama.

I was in Osaka in December with a friend who's a native Osakan. I told him I wanted to check out hadaka based on what I've heard (on here). We went to the area, and although I do not speak Japanese (we com***icate in Korean, since he's fluent) he was going around asking about it.

Well, we asked about 4-5 different people from different "stores" (where they have those posters all over the wall) and my friend told me that apparently hadaka closed up. He didn't give a reason why though.

Greetings-

Oh, how I miss the King. Anyway, does anybody have any experience with video booths where a lady comes around offering extra services?

I have looked around (and have read the forum) and have not found any in the Kansai area.

Just wondering if anyone else has had any luck.

Thanks in advance.

Drew

Greetings,

I always enjoy a good strip show, whether it is 'American style' which is more like a bar, or more Japanese in flavor, where the women basically show their goods.

My question is this- I am well aware of Juso Music, a strip cabaret. I have heard there are other strip clubs in Juso-- one post mentioned some in the Napoleon building. Where is this building(directions please)?

Also, any other suggestions for such shows in the area? As I live in Kobe, anywhere in the Kansai area is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Drew

[QUOTE=Drewtothedew2]Greetings,
Also, any other suggestions for such shows in the area? As I live in Kobe, anywhere in the Kansai area is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Drew[/QUOTE]

... if Hankyu line is convenient for your, take it in the direction of Kyoto and get down at Takatsuki-shi (hope spelling is OK). Go to the east exit, walk down the road at an angle (not left, not right, not straight. The other one that makes an angle).

Bytheway: in this road there are several gaijin friendly "este" places. Corean, Taiwan and Chinese "este" I guess. I've been in two of them, on the right side of the road. Not too bad, BBBJ for 8.000, shower and probably FS for the more expencive courses (didn't tried). Do not expect HadakanoOsama, though.... service is mechanical and girls are so so.

Anyway, for Drew, if you continue this road, up for few hundred meters, you will see a crossing with a main road (171, to be precise). Here, on the other side you will see a dark building with "strip show" (or "nude show" sorry I don't remember exactly) indications everywhere. You can't miss it because it has a huge gate and many panels and advertisements.

Hope it helps, good luck and post something if you get there.

Cheers,

TJ

[QUOTE=Teddy Johnwa]... if Hankyu line is convenient for your, take it in the direction of Kyoto and get down at Takatsuki-shi (hope spelling is OK). Go to the east exit, walk down the road at an angle (not left, not right, not straight. The other one that makes an angle).

Anyway, for Drew, if you continue this road, up for few hundred meters, you will see a crossing with a main road (171, to be precise). Here, on the other side you will see a dark building with "strip show" (or "nude show" sorry I don't remember exactly) indications everywhere. You can't miss it because it has a huge gate and many panels and advertisements.

Hope it helps, good luck and post something if you get there.

Cheers,

TJ[/QUOTE]

This is a fun one in Kyoto (same as above?)-gaijin are no problem...
[url]http://www.dx-tohji.co.jp/index1n.html[/url]

Wasn't sure what service the Japanese Este would provide, so took a chance and checked it out.

Kobe, about 5 min north of station.

Short on time so just 30min/5500.

Shower, 5min massage, flip, 10 min HJ, shower, done.

Very cute girl, age 21.

Lots of options for 1,000-3,000

For 10,000 its 45 min and shower together...

No problem with white guys, just understand it's not a BJ or FS place.

[url]http://www.kaikan-abc.com/top.htm[/url]

Okay. I am off to Osaka/Kyoto on Tuesday and hoping to have some fun.

I have never been before but I have RTTF already but it sounds like the best places have shut down.

I am a good-looking 20 something guy but I don't have a ton of money to spend. I would prefer to pick up a non-working (a. K. A. Free) J-girl but in case things don't pan out and I am a horny (and likely drunk) monger I would appreciate some solid advice on where to go for a quick and easy release. Any play is ok though I cant speak a word of Japanese and being that I am going during the week I recognize it might be tough to score some free action.

Any advice from you helpful mongers would be appreciated. Even it is just the name of a few bars where I might have luck pulling a girl or two.

Thanks in advance.

Ditta that. I'm also off to Kyoto and Osaka Tues/Wed. Any advice would also be helpful. I had a great time in Tokyo saturday night. Went to a club called "nation" and wound up with a spinner in my hotel room (club located in Roppongi) - and she was an energizer bunnie the whole night! So there's definitely an angle to being an American here - apparently many girls here are sick of the "traditionalist" local men.

[QUOTE=Myownhome]Okay. I am off to Osaka/Kyoto on Tuesday and hoping to have some fun.

I have never been before but I have RTTF already but it sounds like the best Any advice from you helpful mongers would be appreciated. Even it is just the name of a few bars where I might have luck pulling a girl or two.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

Two bars:

Bar "Insn't it" in kyoto, Bar "The Hub", in Kyoto, Disco "Metro" in Kyoto. Good luck, TJ

I spent one night in Osaka two weeks ago and I went out searching for gaijin friendly pink salons in Nipponbashi area. I was turned down by a few salons after they knew I was not a Japanese. Finally I bumped into a male staff in front of a club in a small inner street, who wanted my business. He said "message" and requested my Y10,000 ahead. I gave him the money and followed him into the club. It was a seedy and dark place, and I was told to wait on a couch. Five minutes later, a woman came to me in her 30's. It was too dark to rate her face. She said something and asked me what to drink. After I answered "tea", she asked me to buy her drink. I was not happy at that time. Worrying that saving Y2,000 for her beer might lead to a bad service, I agreed and I gave her a Y5,000 bill. She then asked me move to another wide couch. Three minutes later, She returned with her beer but no sign of returning my Y3,000. I asked for the money, she said Y3,000 charge for the longer seat that I could lie flat. I was angry a bit but I thought may be I can get more fun later on the bigger couch. I struggled to stay calm.

Pissed but still waiting for a good service. After taking off my pants, she sat on my chest facing to my feet with clothes ON while I was lying on my back. I could not do anything but grasp her breasts from her back. After putting on a condom on my dick, she then started to rub it with a towel. If I needed this, I could do it in my hotel room for free. After five minutes, no sign of getting a blow job from her, I requested it. She rejected, and said MESSAGE only. It was a fu**ing pissing-off message. After another 5 minutes, I asked her to stop. I left the scam place.

LESSON- Don't pay before you know what to get. I really miss hadako no osama.

There are two marginal places where you can get a slippery handjob near the Wendys in Namba. You won't find any beautiful young girls there, you'll be hurried, they'll try to "catch" your sperm with a towel and they'll try to over-charge you. But you don't need any Japanese and they are easy to find. Don't bring more than 11,000 or 12,000 yen and don't expect more than a handjob. The keys to enjoying the experience are the following. Not bringing too much money. Not expecting the woman to be young or pretty. And not expecting anything other than a handjob.
If you let them see that you have only 2,000 or 3,000 more than the entrance charge they won't try to lead you on so they can get more money from you. So you have to hide you cash and credit cards from them. And if you act like you are happy to get a slippery handjob from the shadows you might enjoy it and who knows they might slow down a little, but that is all!

[QUOTE=Professor J]I spent one night in Osaka two weeks ago and I went out searching for gaijin friendly pink salons in Nipponbashi area.

LESSON- Don't pay before you know what to get. I really miss hadako no osama.[/QUOTE]


This sounds a lot like what happened to me (minus the drink charge. They kept offering "more service in bigger room" for more Yen of course. In the end I found the tout and got 50% of the money back.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=275971#post275971[/url]

Hey all, I will be in Osaka for 1 night only. Catching a flight to China the next morning. Looks like I will be given a hotel room at the Kansai International. Don't suppose any Delivery place can come all the way here right?

If i wonder into the town, what city should I go that has more night life?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Manatsu]Hey all, I will be in Osaka for 1 night only. Catching a flight to China the next morning. Looks like I will be given a hotel room at the Kansai International. Don't suppose any Delivery place can come all the way here right?

If i wonder into the town, what city should I go that has more night life?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

You'd probably get someone to come out for a little transport fee-but only if you speak Japanese.

Better bet taking the train to Namba (30 minutes) and hunting there.

Namba is a nightlife town? On my way then. How do I get back to airport when JR closes lol.
wonder how much is Taxi from namba to KIX.

Thanks Lion

[QUOTE=Manatsu]Namba is a nightlife town? On my way then. How do I get back to airport when JR closes lol.
wonder how much is Taxi from namba to KIX.

Thanks Lion[/QUOTE]

Namba/Shinsaibashi are fun.

Trains run fairly late I imagine-maybe midnight?. Taxi maybe 5,000-10,000. They now offer 50% off longer runs-never taken one out there though.

Using Fu Town I found a bunch of listings, but hard to say if they will be as fun as reported so well by CJW. He had me considering the merits as well.

[url]http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f06/f06_0121.htm[/url]

Most like CJW's:
[url]http://www.moehands.jp/[/url]

Called Onakura I believe (no vidoe option unless in a hotel I guess)
[url]http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f06/f06_0118.htm[/url]

Anyone know what 高級派遣ヘルス is? A special high grade DH club with FS guaranteed perhaps? Y50,000/90min FS better be included!

See my post for Osaka a month or so ago regarding a HJ serive (by J-gal) in Kobe.

Also, some (Japanese or Chinese) este will provide a nude gal who will give you a 20-30 minute, sometimes decent massage and body slide for 10,000, or just massage and HJ for 5,000.

Nurse asobi also is a non-FS option.

Haven't tried it, but similar j-gal I imagine:
[url]http://www.maslook.com/play.html[/url]

Another type of play (dominatrix/soft S)-
[url]http://www.himitu.net/[/url]

The oddest ones were the Doll services-they deliver a doll to your hotel room...[url]http://www.love-candybox.com/doll/index.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Lion]
Anyone know what 高級派遣ヘルス is? [/QUOTE]
"high class delivery health."

Was in Osaka on business last week. Went out with colleagues and did not get back to the hotel in Shinsaibashi until after midnight. Called the following Korean DH service "http://www.deli-venus.com" or "http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/d/o-venus/i.htm" and asked for the girl that I wanted but was told she's off the night. After I named a few on their web and they were all not available, the mama-san then recommended a new girl (24 yo) that just started. I should have stopped here but curiosity drove me to accept the offer (not cheap at all JPY25,000 for 90 minutes). By the way, I only know a few Japanese just enough to get by.

So this girl (I think her name was Zoe or something like) from Pusan turned up at the door around 2:00 am so we first had a shower together and then straight to action. Before that, I had to hand her the cash (BIG MISTAKE). We tried to have a conversation but due to my limited Japanese (and no Korean of course), it was not very successful. After licking my chest/nipples, etc., she went to give my brother a CBJ. I told her BBBJ but she said no so O.K., I complied. After a few minutes, I asked her to stop and she immediately got on top of me and did the cow girl position. Then a couple of minutes later, I couldn't figure out how she knew I came even my member was still hard and she got off. Then she cleaned me up and went to the shower again. After that, she put on her clothes and wanted to leave. I insisted that it's not time yet and she should stay on and let me have another score (which is normal in Tokyo) but she refused and said that Osaka is different and only one time is the norm. She must be in my room for only half an hour at this time and there was another hour before the time was up. She said that there was no point for her to stay as we couldn't communicate. Who wanted to communicate anyway and what I wanted was body language. This was cheating and I was so angry at this point but I was not able to do anything since my colleagues were in rooms close by and the arguments and loud noise would attract attention. I did call the agency afterwards several times and complained but again not able to speak the lingo was a big disadvantage and the agent hang up on me. So this was not a very good experience for me. Expensive and bad service.

In general, I don't seem to have good experience with Korean DH services either in Seoul, Tokyo and now in Osaka. IMHO, Korean girls will take your money up front, rush you and then leave as soon as the service is performed despite there is plenty of time left.

My advice is if you have limited knowledge of Japanese or Korean, do not use such services and especially the agent that I mentioned above. Can anyone tell our fellow mongers where to find nice pussies for English speakers in Osaka similar to those services provided by Clubboo or Asian Mystique in Tokyo?

SM

Gentlemen. Hope you can help. I'm curently in Thailand and will be in Osaka next week for one night only. Staying at the Hilton Osaka.
1. Is it girl friendly and 2. What are my options.

I speak no Japanese and will be willing to pay for quality. If Hilton isn't girl friendly a nice bar nearby where I can try my luck would be good.

I really appreciate the assistance.

The Osaka Hilton is definately girlfriendly. I'm always staying there when I'm in Osaka.

I don't know well about P4P-scene in Japan, because Japanese freebies are too easy to get.

[QUOTE=Texanboot]The Osaka Hilton is definately girlfriendly. I'm always staying there when I'm in Osaka.

I don't know well about P4P-scene in Japan, because Japanese freebies are too easy to get.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Where do you usually go to meet women, or is the hotel bar sufficient?

What a statement!! You should write a report and share your experience with our fellow mongers. I guess you must be a young stud with a Brad Pitt look and good command of Japanese.

SM

[QUOTE=Texanboot]The Osaka Hilton is definately girlfriendly. I'm always staying there when I'm in Osaka.

I don't know well about P4P-scene in Japan, because Japanese freebies are too easy to get.[/QUOTE]

Osaka trip report, nothing interesting
Stayed at the Kansai airport Hotel (which i can't even remember the name now)

Tried to goto the first town, Izumisano, see if ANYTHING at all was there, nothing. I walked all around the blocks up and down.

Next I went to Nanba, I walked out of the station and got lost immediately. Nanba is a huge hub of connecting trains. So please 'remember' your train line before leaving the station. 2 Hours later I was on the final train back to the hotel before I get stuck.

Only thing that was valuable was the delivery health cards at all the telephone booths near the Nanba station. I called one and all they had was Chiense and Korean. Hopefully I get better luck next time.

I don't know if I have the Brad Pitt looks, I'm just an average 35y old white guy. Also I think speaking Japanese doesn't help in my case. I started to notice girls showing interest in me just a few years ago. And I must say that they are not as shy as they pretend sometimes. Just when I'm using the subway and looking at my map, maybe they think I'm lost and automatically they start talking to me and want to help. It's like they really want to talk with a foreigner, I never had to do much effort.

Or just go out to a bar, you'll always find girls easy to talk to. If you start talking to someone and if they are not interested to talk, just walk away. You don't want to look desperate.

I never used the hotel bar, I don't think you'll find this kind of girl at the Hilton in Osaka. The hotel is really ok to bring back girls, nobody ever made any remarks. During my last stay a few weeks ago, I even asked for a second keycard for my girl, no extra charge, without questions asked.

But I have to say that in Tokyo it's easier to meet girls than Osaka. Most girls I've met so far are married, just looking for some fun with a foreigner, who's just in town for a few days. Only once I had a girl who was not married, but married girls are the best. With most of these girls I still keep in touch. All kind of regular girls: housewife, teacher, laywer-assistant, engineer, officegirl.

I'm not sure, why this happens to me in Japan. Coz I travel all over the world, and this almost never happens anywhere else. I don't have any tricks or special advise to give, coz I'm not a succesfull seducer back home.

All I can say is that I love Japan and wish I could go there more often.

Good luck to you all!

[QUOTE=Salaryman]Was in Osaka on business last week. Went out with colleagues and did not get back to the hotel in Shinsaibashi until after midnight. Called the following Korean DH service "http://www.deli-venus.com" or "

Before that, I had to hand her the cash (BIG MISTAKE). We tried to have a conversation but due to my limited Japanese (and no Korean of course), it was not very successful.

SM[/QUOTE]

Tough luck with the KDH. I have seen websites in Tokyo which state how many rounds you get for each time frame, whereas others don't declare it.

I think the key here is to negotiate your shots on goal before handing over the cash-of course this requires language skills. Best to negotiate with the service first, then with the girl as well. Of course it is hard (pun not intended) to negotiate when your are horny and the gal finally shows up after a 1-2 hour wait.

I can recommend Sam and Dave 5 on Sakai Suji for free pick-up! I used to live in Osaka for 3 years, about 2 minutes walk away in one of the alleys behind the place and frequent the place on weekends. 70% success rate, but only on weekends, since there isn't too much going on during the week. There used to be a Bar Isn't it in Shinsaibashi as well, which was just as good. I don't know if it's counterparts in Kyoto or Umeda can offer the same. The one in Umeda I never stayed at after midnight, when it's supposed to get busy.

If you don't like the hunt for freebies, check out the area around the place where the Hadaka used to be.There are a few places around there but you will have to get out of the Shotenngai (Japanese for shopping street), cross the street towards the temple. There's a few streetwalkers over there (Or used to be, at least when I was there in Aug 2005) Plenty of Love Hotels nearby. Most of them are Thai. There is a coupleof gaijin-frienly, Hadaka type places in this area as well, although I will have to check again next time when I visit.

The area around Tennoji and Sakai Suji (near Sam 5) has Chinese streetwalkers but they're mostly rip-offs. That goes for any service I know of so far by the Chinese, at least in Osaka.

Anyone have any success here:

[url]http://www.osaka-platinum.com/top.htm[/url]

Had a chance to revisit Tobita (for those who don't know it - about 1/2 mile south west of Tennoji station). Lots of available girls at around 8 pm; half dozen or so mama sans invited me in (obvious gaijin am I). Had a really nice session with a very cute Japanese girl. Damage there is 11k for 15 minutes with FS; 16k for 20 min, etc. Have found generally reliably good service there; everything covered. Haven't been there for over 3 years, but found it pretty much unchanged now from before.

Tried about 3-4 pink salons on the west side of Shin-Midosuji. All were strike outs unfortunately. Boy do I miss HADAKA!

One guy recommended a building next door for "foreign" gals. Went in and they were all booked, but the attendant took me next door to a place with about 15 working gals, all 6-8s I'd say. All Chinese except for one Korean.
FS is 15,000 (60 min. of shower, massage, play).

Didn't have time to indulge, but will go back as the gals were better than average and the price seemed to be standardized (no bullsht bargaining necessary).

PM me for more detailed location.

After reading all the reports of not finding gaijin-friendly places in Osaka, I decided to try to add one to the list for you guys on my last day in Osaka, and surprisingly, I succeeded in finding a very good option close to Doutenbori.

While walking in the area the other day, I was approached by a tout inviting me into a chinese este almost directly across the street from the Hotel Metro 21, which is on a street parallel to and just one block to the north of Doutenbori called Soemoncho, and about one block west of Sakai dori. I couldn't go in then, but said I would come back. And I did, but the tout was not there. So I decided it would be worth the risk to just go up and see. The building had a number of places, but somehow I guessed the 5th floor, and of the two up there, only one was open, so I walked in and was immediately welcomed. They showed me a bunch of photos of girls, and I picked Maki, who was very cute. The charge would be 12,000 for 40 minutes, including massage, and BBBJ (I always confirm that it will be nama ferra since they don't always do this for gaijin).

One of the men then took me to another building because their shower was not working - it turned out to be another este with a very simjilar sign at street level - so obvioiusly owned by same folks - about two blocks away called Vanilla (Banira in katakana), also on the 5th floor of its building. Along the way he told me that FS was available for an additional 6k when I asked to confirm that the price included everything.

Maki was indeed the girl in the photo I picked, and she was great! Chinese and very sweet. And the place was nice for its type - stalls with mats were roomy and very clean with decent music playing.

Assisted shower, massage, then she showered and came back and said we would begin service, which meant her towel came off to show a wonderful body and she proceeded to give me a nice BBBJ. Lots of joking around in the few words of CHinese I know (saying I love you in Chinese is always a head turner to the Chinese girls I have met in such places). After a while she asked me if I wanted sex, and explained that would be another 6k, just as the guy had said, be she added that this would increase my time to 1 hour. (I recalled there was a one hour option for 18k, so this was not at all unexpected). I agreed, paid in advance, and out came a raincoat and off to the races we were. After a long time of various positions we stopped FS because the raincoat bothered me, and she willingly finished me off with another BJ. Maki was a real GFE - indeed, one of the best I have ever had in Japan. Highly recommend both her and Vanilla. If the other girls are as accomodating and cute as she is, this place is a real winner in my book.

When I walked past the first place on my way out of Vanilla, the tout ( a middle-aged guy) was back, and remembered me. He tried to get me to come up, but when I finally made hijm realize that I had just been at Vanilla (my Japanese is functional, but far from fluent) he was very surprised that I had found my way in and to Vanilla without him. But he was anxious to invite me again, so I think this place is obviously generally friendly to gaijin.

To get to Vanilla directly: it is on a street perpendicular to Doutenbori. It is one of the streets that has a bridge across to Doutenbori - this one is just one bridge to the east of the one that has the famous Glico sign (the running boy). There is a parking lot on the first block after the bridge heading north. Vanilla is across the street just after the parking lot on the 5th floor.

Hope this helps some of you!

Dear Mongers,

Stay in Osaka (Imperial Hotel, Osaka) for 5 days till 2 days ago. I am a totally foreigner to Japanese, but eager to get laid due to visual stimulation.

Reviewing ISG, searching in the web, and even go to the so-called "folk experience shop" "????" in the RLD-like area near the station, but the language barrier caused a lot problem. They usually hang up or refused entrance once recogniged that I am a foreigner.

Finally, I made success at [url]http://www.promise-deli.com/top.html[/url] after using my poor Japanese and their poor English. The first night was a success, but some rip-off. The girl firstly asked 3000Yen extra for traffic fee that not mentioned previously in the telephone. I can accept it. And then she said that one shot in all that made me angry. I asked her to check again by the cellular phone and she finally gave in after telephoning.

Financial issues :-(

28000 Yen (25000+3000) for 90 minutes and 2 shots.

Sex issues :)

A 9-sized 25 y/o Korean girl from Seoul, about 165cm, very white and silky skin. Natural tits, about B~C cup, perky in touch. After reitirating the details, she insisted to be paid beforehand and I gave in after hesitation.

Shower together and she served me bathing in detail. Straight to sex, starting with BBBJ, refusing DFK, then breast feeding to me (surely no milk). In appearance, just routine-like and as if scheduled (may be angry with the 2-shot demand. The first shot was in a hurry after put on condom in oral job, 3 positions and end with Mish.

Again, she served me for bathing, and then conversation resolved the ice and we talked about all things about Japan and Korea, and even made jokes. The attitude changed aftermath.

After regaining the strength, another BBBJ made little peter hard and started with reversed cowgirl. She changed to cowgirl while the peter in its place (amazing), and then changed to doggy. She moaned and moaned (I thought she did not pretend as was quite different from the first shot) after I took her in Mish. When approaching to climax, she declined bukkake or CIM and insisted cum-in-condom. Despite that, fine experience and I was satisfied.

Chatting continued and then again she bathed me in detail. 15 minutes left and she suggested leaving earlier as the time was rather late (3 am).

The second night I called the same agent again, but difficulty emerged as the night-time managers stopped her enter the elevator. (I was registered as single room). I went down to the lobby but still in vain. I told the driver that I would cancel the date but he claimed for cancellation fee. Initially 5000 Yen, I made efforts to explain that it was not my fault about that. But he still asked. I just had 1000Yen with me when I went downfloor, and he said it's OK.

Not so good experience although the Japanese driver always kept his attitude and was rather polite.

I think that I had to start my Japanese lessens for the next visit to Japan and maybe I will choose a girl-friendly hotel.

For that shop in Osaka, I think that it may be recommanded if you still have language problems and the hotel is girl-friendly.

Happy mongering!

[QUOTE=Lllldick]Dear Mongers,
Finally, I made success at [url]http://www.promise-deli.com/top.html[/url] after using my poor Japanese and their poor English.

The first night was a success, but some rip-off. The girl firstly asked 3000Yen extra for traffic fee that not mentioned previously in the telephone. I can accept it.

And then she said that one shot in all that made me angry. I asked her to check again by the cellular phone and she finally gave in after telephoning.

Financial issues :-(

28000 Yen (25000+3000) for 90 minutes and 2 shots.


I think that I had to start my Japanese lessens for the next visit to Japan and maybe I will choose a girl-friendly hotel.

Happy mongering![/QUOTE]

Good Report, even though you managed to hit all the issues that can come up:
1) Only 1 shot without negotiating
2) Transport fee
3) Unfriendly hotel (especially late at night)

I think for that much yen 2 shots should be standard, but Osaka girls who do FS seem to think they can leave after just one. Oral girls stay the whole time usually.

Hello everybody,

I will be in Osaka/Kobe from June 15 untill June 21st. Maybe anybody of the specialist in the forum would like to meet and get some action together. I would be looking forward to it.

Yours,

Epikur

[QUOTE=Lion]Tried about 3-4 pink salons on the west side of Shin-Midosuji. All were strike outs unfortunately. Boy do I miss HADAKA![/QUOTE]We all do...

[QUOTE=Salaryman]What a statement!! You should write a report and share your experience with our fellow mongers. I guess you must be a young stud with a Brad Pitt look and good command of Japanese.

SM[/QUOTE]Well, that reminds me of a joke which one of my friends did spurted out a similar "Brad Pitt" statement and was awakened by a Jap girl with frowned eyebrows repeating: "What? Black Pit? But he is white."

Hahaha.

Guys,

Would be in osaka for 5 nights. Can anyone tell me if Nikko at Shinshaibashi or Swissotel nankai is better choice in terms of girl friendly?

Both hotels I had stayed before, both had their pros and cons. Although swissotel is much more expensive.

Hi all,

Can anyone kindly help me? I will be coming to Osaka for holiday and i use my timeshare to exchange for a week hotel in below address:

Sun member Osaka Umeda
Plaza Umeshin 15-18 Nishi Tenma 4-Chome
Osaka, Japan

But i have been surfing around to get it's exact location. But still i cannot find it. So can anyone tell me is this hotel far from the Osaka JR station where we have direct bas from Kansai Airport? How far will it be from the station?

Thank you for your help.

[QUOTE=Kiasi]Sun member Osaka Umeda
Plaza Umeshin 15-18 Nishi Tenma 4-Chome
Osaka, Japan

So can anyone tell me is this hotel far from the Osaka JR station where we have direct bas from Kansai Airport? How far will it be from the station?[/QUOTE]Kiasi,

There is a lot of information in Japanese, including here:
[url]http://www.housenavi.net/plaza-umeshin.htm[/url]

Take a look at the following map (also Japanese), and you can see Osaka Station in red in the upper left hand corner, about 600 meters away. Plaza Umeshin is in the center of the map. Hope this helps a bit:

[url]http://*******.com/nto9k[/url]

Muku

[QUOTE=Kiasi]Hi all,

Can anyone kindly help me? I will be coming to Osaka for holiday and i use my timeshare to exchange for a week hotel in below address:

Sun member Osaka Umeda
Plaza Umeshin 15-18 Nishi Tenma 4-Chome
Osaka, Japan

But i have been surfing around to get it's exact location. But still i cannot find it. So can anyone tell me is this hotel far from the Osaka JR station where we have direct bas from Kansai Airport? How far will it be from the station?

Thank you for your help.[/QUOTE]I don't know this hotel, but based on the adress it must be very near Osaka Station, which is also called Umeda Station. There is a limousine bus bus between Kansai Airport directly to the station. It takes less than an hour, depending on the trafic.

Have a good time in Osaka!

Your address was missing some information. There is a ward of the city of Osaka, like Manhattan or Brooklyn is to New York City. Osaka has, for example, Nishi-ku, or Kita-ku; ku being the Japanese word for ward. I found the complete address on the web: Plaza Umeshin 15-18 Nishi Tenma 4-Chome Kita-Ku Osaka 530 JAPAN.

You are about two kilometers from Osaka Station. Be sure and take the limosine bus from the airport to Osaka Station. It takes about 90 minutes, but it is the fastest, and cheapest way. Besides, it is easier since you don't have to change trains. Give me a call when you come to town, and I will be glad to show you around 090-5469-7675.

[QUOTE=Kiasi]Hi all,

Can anyone kindly help me? I will be coming to Osaka for holiday and i use my timeshare to exchange for a week hotel in below address:

Sun member Osaka Umeda
Plaza Umeshin 15-18 Nishi Tenma 4-Chome
Osaka, Japan

But i have been surfing around to get it's exact location. But still i cannot find it. So can anyone tell me is this hotel far from the Osaka JR station where we have direct bas from Kansai Airport? How far will it be from the station?

Thank you for your help.[/QUOTE]

Dear Kojima, Texanboot, and muku1,


Thank you very very much for the help of locating the hotel address. I really appreciate that. Frankly, i have been to Umeda few times but it's very hard to go to those hanky panky place as i am not Japanese. :( I can't speak Japanese.


I will ring you up kojima and let's go have some drink in Umeda..!!

Cheers...

A buddy of mine is coming down from Tokyo this weekend, so we will do some research. He wants me to order in a woman for him. I can talk on the phone, and they can't tell I am a foreigner, but when they show up they are usually pretty cool about it. Afterwards, they admit to being scared that we won't communicate, but it is amazing how well things go with a bit of understanding.

[QUOTE=Kiasi]Dear Kojima, Texanboot, and muku1,

Thank you very very much for the help of locating the hotel address. I really appreciate that. Frankly, i have been to Umeda few times but it's very hard to go to those hanky panky place as i am not Japanese. :( I can't speak Japanese.


I will ring you up kojima and let's go have some drink in Umeda..!!

Cheers...[/QUOTE]

Walked around Tennoji today, but I ended up heading North from JR Tennoji and then got lost trying to find my way down to Tobita.

So, where can I get FS. I'm Gaijin (American) and will be living in Ashiya working in Osaka, Business Park Area.

=) Hoping some of you guys living in Osaka or just visiting could show an American around. I'm here on assignment for 1 year. New York.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Ashiya]Walked around Tennoji today, but I ended up heading North from JR Tennoji and then got lost trying to find my way down to Tobita.

So, where can I get FS. I'm Gaijin (American) and will be living in Ashiya working in Osaka, Business Park Area.[/QUOTE]

GA - in some of my earlier posts I mentioned how to get to Tobita ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=463295&postcount=223[/url]) - the first time I went there I wandered around a bit and finally asked someone. But for general orientation it is southwest of the Tennoji station - about a ten minute walk.

and also a place I found that was gaijin friendly in central Osaka ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=467943&postcount=225[/url])

good luck.

An occasional Tokyo Nampa poster who has the good fortune of spending time with Endowed and Sojourn. In a nice hotel in Osaka tomorrow-where can I nampa?

MY FIVE UNFORGETTABLE J-GIRLS FROM TOBITA

AOI (house Kotoburi) - The mama say dozo and Aoi smile to me, but I prefer go around for awhile. After walk about one hour, I decided go with Aoi, a smiling girl with long hair. She was born in Osaka, is 20 years old and told me was working for six months in Kyoto at tea house in Gion, the district of maikos and gueixas. Aoi has a good body and take my hands to go upstair. She brings tea with ice, some snacks and talk to me for two or three minutes. She stand up and take off the dress and I can see the nice body and legs. She clean me with oshibori (wet towel) put the condon and we play deep kissing and FIV (finger in vagina) before to finish with missionary. She has a soft skin that excite me and while I was cumming she cried kiss me kiss me. After cleaned me I asked if could take picture of her. Said no! But if I had liked her and I came back in the following day, I could take photos of the body without showing the face. I said OK and promissed combe back! She said good bye with a hug and we went downstair.

Face, hair, skin, breast - 10
Body, legs, smile - 9
Deep Kiss - 9
Enthusiasm for sex - 10
GFE - 10
FIV - OK

MIKA (house Hakodate) Walking since 10h00 AM, some 5 houses was open. I came back later, at 12h00 (noon) to go around once again and some 10 houses was working. I choice Mika, an Osaka girl with 25 years old and long hair mix of gray and blonde. She is talkative, smiling and has an ass not commom to J-girls, and remember me the brazilian samba dancers.

I laid down on the futon and she cleaned me and starts to covered blow job while I FIV her. Good service because she nama my testicles too. We went to missionary and she moan when I put the jonhson. We changed to Back (doggie) and finish with missionary. This girl loves to kiss while is f..ckg. From start to finish, she gave me deep french kiss. And when we finish still I was inside of her and we are kissing until the time is over. Nice girl.

Face, hair, skin, smile - 10
Body, legs, breast - 9
Deep kiss - 10
Enthusiasm for sex - 10
GFE - 10
FIV - OK

MERU (house Yuzo) A fashion girl with long hair, only 1m50 tall but dekapai (large breast). She dont has the same enthusiasm of Osaka girls. She was born in Yokohama and live in Osaka last 7 years. Blow job service was good and enthusiastic but now I know which is "maguro". When I f....cked her she laid as a "maguro". In Japan this is the expression that means the girl is cold as a frozen fish maguro (tuna) in the fish market. No kiss, no moan, no GFE, but friendly anyway.

Face, hair, skin - 9
Body, legs, breast - 6
Enthusiasm for sex - 1
GFE - 0

RYO (house Hato) A slim and beauty girl (maybe 20 years old) with two tatto in the coast: a name Asami (maybe her true name) and a rose. She take off the blue dress but not the black stocking and she is a really sexy girl. Enthusiastic covered BJ and when she laid she raise the sexy legs and excite me. She is "paipan" (shaved vagina). She is beauty as a Depato girl or talent girl but her slim body is not good for sex because my pubic area start to pain. She moan low but kiss with passion.

Face, hair, legs - 10
Body, smile, skin - 8
Deep Kiss - 8
Enthusiasm for sex - 8
GFE - 8

Ran (forgot the house name) A beauty girl with white skin a good body and good manners. She is 23 years old. When you pass she moves her head as a pendulum clock and smile for you. At the room"s entrance she kneel and said doozo. I take off her white dress piece by piece and could see the nice body with perfect skin. I kiss her neck, coast and legs from behind and she was excited. But she is pechapai (small breasts) but doesnt matter because she has perfect legs, is friendly, smiling and has good attitude. I FIV her while she blow job me. Ran looks an annouce girl of TV but she told me she is going back to Hiroshima to study nursing. She works here until next 28th august.

Face, hair, skin, body, legs, smile - 10
Deep Kiss - 9
Breast - 5
Enthusiasm for sex - 9
GFE - 10
FIV - OK

AOI (house Kotobuki) In my last night at Tobita, I meet Aoi once more. She was happy (me too) and I asked for the promisse: take pictures. She said OK but dont say nothing to mama, and no face picture. All right!!! I choice the 16.000 yenes course only to have 5 minutes more and to be able to take photos to show here for my friends to have an idea of this paradise at the heart of Osaka.

Hey friends, this is Tokyo Fun again, but from Osaka (excuse me my bad english). Since I read here about Tobita Shinchi, to visit this paradise was my dream. The dream comes true this month at hollyday. I intended to stay only one night in Osaka, but after going to Tobita, wooooww! I decided to stay two more nights to have good moments with beauty girls: Aoi, Mika, Meru, Ryo, Ran and Aoi once more.

I took pictures of the streets since Dobutsuenmae eki (Midosuji Line, exit 2) because at first night, the taxi driver took me to Zoo when I said "dobutsuen" (Zoo).
If you wants to see the photos of the streets to know how to go to Tobita please it writes here.

When I arrived in the red light district, I looked for the red lights (as Koganecho in Yokohama) but the lights are white. My first impression was that I was in "Lost Paradise" because I love so much J-girl. Tobita exists since Samurai period (Edo Period) and the better, you can see and choice the girl because she is at the door while you walk along the streets.

If I had millions of yens, I would spend part of this money in Tobita with this wonderful girls. This Paradise price is only 11.000 yenes (15 minutes) or 16.000 yenes (20 minutes) or the longest course, 40.000 yenes for 60 minutes of dream.

I walked for the streets at 19h00. About 95% of the mama say doozo to me and I smile to both, to mama and the girl. My look is asiatic, but Im a stranger in this country anyway.

Here are my impressions of Tobita Shinchi:

- The firsts houses has woman with more than 30 years old of age.

- The young girls are in the house in the center. In my note, 90% of the girls are really bijin (beautiful) and looks as talent, model, TV anouncer or depato girls.

- Some girls dresses yukata or kimono. Others are cosplay as maid, student but the great majority dresses as if they were going for the party the night.

- The houses Oofusa (on the corner with a girl dressing kimono), Yuka, Yuzo and Hato has the most beautiful girls in my opinion, but the girls change sometimes.

- There are 150 houses, as a taxi driver told me. Many japanese guys goes to walk sex tour, only to see the girls, not to f...ck.

- One girl by house, but some houses has two girls on the day. But they seat at front one by one.

- The Hato house has 3 beauty girls. When one goes up to, another one seats at the door.

- Some girls change dress many times, and you think she is another girl.

- The majority of the house are Edo Period style but inside is clean, air conditioner, with tatami or carpet, but no bed, only futon.

- Only the woman can take a shower to wash the pubic area. The man use shibori (wet towel)

- Photograph is forbidden and has plates in the walls. But my old keitai make me a James Bond and I took discret pictures to post here to every friends.

- I saw three white guys (caucasian) speaking loud with can beer in hands. Mamasan never said doozo to this guys.

- I saw five brazilian guys and they had service, no problem.

- I saw a group of guys, they seem from South East Asia but didnt had service.

- I think is case by case. But friends, if the Mama call you, doozo onisan, doozo, its better to see the girls face too. If she smile to you, you have a big chance to have GFE. But if she dont look your face, maybe you will not receive a girl friend experience. You must have feeling to this things.

(to be continued)

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Your posts are nice and all, and I'm sure everyone appreciates your details.

I'd ask as a general request though that you not go taking pictures in Tobita, clandestine or otherwise.

Blend in. Obey rules. Follow norms.

Who are you, the thought police? I like the photos. They help me know the place, and find my way around. He does blend in; probably better than you or I. What makes you think he doesn't? Obey rules? About not taking photos?

The administrator seems to think he is an OK guy. The only problem people in this scenario were the three loud crackers he saw. I share your concern about respecting the culture, society, and I correct Westerners when I seem them abusing Japan, but this guy is an Asian with more stake here than you likely have.

[QUOTE=Crikey]Your posts are nice and all, and I'm sure everyone appreciates your details.

I'd ask as a general request though that you not go taking pictures in Tobita, clandestine or otherwise.

Blend in. Obey rules. Follow norms.[/QUOTE]

Tokyo,

That was one of the most informative reports I ever read. I plan to go to Osaka in October & have no clue. I have only been there once before but with a lady friend. Usually reports include everything but the exact way to get there. The pictures are also huge help. It is easy to get lost when you can't read the signs but the photos will help me find my way. Thanks!!!

If anyone would like to "hit the town" with a whiteboy from Los Angeles between Oct. 4th - 6th let me know.

TKP

hey,

any news about some possibility of 3P in osaka? Would be a shame that there is nothing like hadaka no ousama.

No luck so far. I had heard that Osaka women were easier than Tokyo women, and that may be true, but not by much. I have been on the verge of a couple 3Ps here, but nothing materialized. In the end, it all has to do with how much enthusiasim you have, and I doubt if anyone has Yellow Fever as bad as me.

Have you tried Yahoo Partners? With a bit of effort, I can score three women a weekend with that, but now I need to link them up!

Take care, and have fun. As my buddy who visited me from the US advised, take lots of pictures, so when they find you unconscious, they will be able to piece together what happened!

[QUOTE=Little Jared]hey,

any news about some possibility of 3P in osaka? Would be a shame that there is nothing like hadaka no ousama.[/QUOTE]

Hey Mak,

I tried to contact you through [blue][Personal contact information deleted by Admin][/blue] but I saw no E-mail link on your page. I thought maybe I had to be in your "friend network" but my invitation was denied. Maybe you can try contacting me in [blue][Personal contact information deleted by Admin][/blue].

Thanks

TKP

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]I would be glad to meet up. Contact me on [blue][Personal contact information deleted by Admin][/blue]. In the search function, look up my last name: [blue][Personal contact information deleted by Admin][/blue].[/QUOTE]

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A link to send me a message appears just below my photograph. Perhaps the only solution is if we both sign up for subscriptions.

[QUOTE=TKP1]Hey Mak,

I tried to contact you through [blue][Personal contact information deleted by Admin][/blue] but I saw no E-mail link on your page. I thought maybe I had to be in your "friend network" but my invitation was denied. Maybe you can try contacting me in [blue][Personal contact information deleted by Admin][/blue].

Thanks

TKP

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Gaijin Ashiya and I went on reconnoiter to Tobita. Very nice. Everyone spoke fondly of Tokyo Fun, and asked when he was coming back to visit! (just kidding) We didn't take pictures, although I should have just to tick off Crikey.

After Tobita, we went to Juso, or more specifically Matsushima Shinchi. I can't believe I have been in Osaka for almost a year, and I just found this place. It is one subway stop from my house, and for months I was using to a video store that is a block away from it. Anyway, all the places at Matsushima Shinchi are ¥10,000 for 20 minutes FS, and ¥5,000 for 10 minute extensions. I had a skinny, tan hottie from Kobe with nice shapely tits. I love Kobe women. Nice blow job with no condom, but Gaijin Ashiya said his used a condom.

I speak Japanese, but Gaijin Ashiya does not. We both look like two white boys from the 'burbs. Tobita was more welcoming then Matsushima Shinchi, but once they learned I could speak Japanese, a lot of places warmed up, particularly in Tobita. If you don't speak any Japanese, you might be better off in Tobita. You will pay ¥1000 more per first 20 minutes, but Gaijin Ashiya thinks it is well worth the money.

To get to Matsushima Shinchi just take the Chuo line to Juso, and get off on the south side. You are on Chuo Street. Walk to the west, and turn down any street to your right, you will see the shop windows. If you have any problem, please don't hesitate to PM me. I would be glad to join you.

hey gents

I am stuck in the middle of Umeda right now and I would like to avoid the "internet afe all night" plan.

has anyone an advice for bars, clubs, and generally speaking places with girls and which don't close the night (sunday night)?

If I were in Tokyo, I would go in a club in Shibuya or to Roppongi, if that can make my search clearer.

For ex, I hear about Namba but I have no idea if it is a kind or Kansai Roppogi. I assume it's not.

thank you in advance for quick response (here or pm) and sorry for what is obviously a FAQ. the last time I promise (until the next time? ok joking)

PS: and if anyone knows about how much is a taxi ride from umeda to tennoji and namba, thank you (and if you know another cheaper way of going to those places... )

Jared

Jared,

It's getting a bit late tonight, but in case you're still checking in at the internet cafe, you will find all the locations you have mentioned are linked by underground rail, which I recommend. As a closer location try the bridge just south of Shinsaibashi (station on Midosuji line) following through the arcade. Taxi from Umeda on a Sunday probably between 1000 and 2000 yen. The bridge (known as hikkakebashi) is a famous pickup location. If you cross over the bridge to the south area you will find a quasi red light district, about 5-10 minutes walk from Shinsaibashi station. I don't know Namba very well - its a bit further away - but there are quasi red light areas around the station. Tennoji is further away still.

Any info?

Thanks

There are the delivery health places, and I think they would come to the Westin as well as anywhere. You will need to speak Japanese. I have never seen hookers around the Westin like I have around the Prince Shinagawa, but then the Prince Shinagawa is pretty unique that way because of the number of male, lecherous, business trip guys there. If you want to take a short subway, there is always Kujo. (See post below.)

[QUOTE=Pansted00]Any info?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I checked this place out on Wednesday, and it was pretty beat. [url]http://www.doosaka.com/[/url] I think the weekends might be better, and if you take a date you can get into the back rooms. You need to speak Japanese, and thoroughly familiarize yourself with the guidelines on the web site. Can anyone else recommend something similar or a Couple's Coffeshop（カップル喫茶）?

I was thinking about going to a party on Sunday October 10 that I learned about at Do Osaka (see below). For more information in Japanese, see <www.erotomania.tv>. If you need an explanation in English you can PM me.

Hello everyone.

Today I'll go to Osaka and will stay 3 days.

I review some reports. Before I go to Tobita, I want to go to Matsushima Shinchi. It is written "just take the Chuo line to Juso". However I can not find Juso station. Where is Juso?

One more question is where is Napoleon Building.

Please help me.

By the way, does Tobita open even mifnight?

The first time I went to Tobita was by fluke. Actually I didn’t “go” there at all, I passed through, having taken the wrong turn after leaving tsutenkaku, or “Tennoji tower.”

The whole area of Tennoji/Shin-Imamiya strikes me as grimy. The ground seems unswept, the shops decaying; even the air has a pre-breathed sense, as if the entire community there is under the thumb of an unchecked entropy.

Anyway I’ll spare you my social commentary. I kept walking and the grime continued until I happened down a corner (as it turns out, a fateful corner) and was confronted with all the round white lights. If you’ve been there, you know.

This was winter. I noticed the mamas in house dresses with small coverlets over their knees, sitting beside space heaters, and, in the genkans that weren’t unoccupied, behind the mamas the girls sitting under spot lamps, smiling their polished, porcelain smiles.

I kept walking.

Two times after this I did the same thing, albeit these second and third walkthroughs were more exploratory, prurient, fueled by a latent curiosity.

Finally one rainy night in March, on impulse borne of a constellation of causes I can’t even enumerate, I somehow retraced tracks I had made years earlier and found Tobita again. I had no umbrella. I turned in the first genkan I came to—the mama was fortunately welcoming.

“Irrashai!” she offered. (Welcome.) “Taberu?” (Do you want to eat?)

I nodded sheepishly, and responded in the affirmative. The yukata-wearing girl in the spot lamp was, by my standards, a bit large, but she had very pretty eyes and a lovely smile.

We went upstairs, the girl guiding me gingerly. The mama san, perceptively aware this was my first venture into the area, went up with us and sat next to me in the small tatami-room, holding in her hands a sheet of laminated paper containing prices—the course menu, as it were.

I chose the half hour. I can’t remember exactly but it was a little over 20,000 yen (it probably came to 200 US$.) I paid up, the mama-san made change, and with a “Go-yukkuri, douzo” (enjoy yourself/take your time) was gone.

When we were alone again, the girl politely asked me to get undressed. There wasn’t any English used, not now or anytime I’ve been to Tobita since then.

She left the room, telling me she’d be right back. This gave me a chance to survey the small quarters. My heart seemed to be fairly thumping in my chest—or maybe that was just an illusion caused by the driving rain outside.

The tatami room was about six mats—smallish, then. There was a lowcut side table with a shibori cloth, a few CD’s, a men’s magazine, and a half-empty pack of menthol cigarettes. The walls were pretty bare but there was a poster of, I think, Madonna—perhaps some 90’s incarnation. A small CD player was in one corner, beside a framed standup coat rack with two empty hangars lolling on it. The futon lay to the side of the room, with a Winnie the Pooh quilt spread over it and, beside it, a plastic tub containing disinfectant spray, a bottle of lotion, and a case of handiwipes. The dim lamp which lit the room sat on the floor. Charming.

The girl came back a long minute later. I hadn’t undressed since I was not sure what I thought I heard was what I had heard, so I was still sitting there unoccupied, though now she had brought a tray containing a cup of Japanese green tea and a small individually-wrapped biscuit. She closed the door behind her and it was just us.

I opened the plastic packet and ate the biscuit dutifully, and drank the tea. My mouth seemed drier than usual. I had been chewing gum when I came in but couldn’t remember where it had gone—it sure wasn’t in my mouth anymore.

She told me, again, to get undressed. I never knew how fast I could obey that request, but I had wrestled my way out of my jeans, sweater, socks, and t-shirt and was standing in my boxers before she had even slipped off her obi. (She was wearing a yukata; this was the end of Spring.)

Her name, she said, was “You.” I’ve been in Japan long enough to know she probably spelled it “Yu” in the Roman alphabet, but something seemed oddly fitting about spelling it with the y.o.u. Some unacknowledged Puritan guilt on my part, maybe.

She gave me a few instructions about placement (I was to lay down on my back on the futon, which now struck me of dubious cleanliness. I wondered how many other young or old men had lay here before me.)

I took off my shorts and lay down there anyway. So here I was naked in front of this stranger. What kept going through my mind was the obvious, thrilling idea: THIS GIRL IS ABOUT TO LET YOU FUCK HER.

I asked her what I should do. Whatever you like to do, she said.

When she finally disrobed, I saw the cotton kimono which had seemed large on her was actually not so large—she was a big girl, big hips, a little on the plump side. She had largish breasts, but they still managed to defy gravity. So she’s young, I thought.

I asked her. Twenty, she said.

I started with her breasts, as is my usual habit. Almost immediately she initiated a short time-out so she could spray my cock (now at full attention) with some coolish liquid I imagine was disinfectant, and wipe it down with a shibori cloth. She then applied a condom to me with her mouth.

I let her fellate me briefly, then she allowed me to touch her between the legs. As soon as I touched her I realized that during her hiatus out of the room she had applied a lubricant to her vagina. (I’m not being humble: Her scent there was not completely girl; there was a perfumed, not at all unpleasant odor.)

She let me finger her for some time. The half hour seemed endless. She turned over, and I caressed her from behind. She made the requisite moaning sounds and even went so far as to say “Iku, iku” which, as one knows, means “I’m coming.”

I rose to my knees and entered her from behind. I was overly careful, worried of catching a disease, and made sure several times not only that the condom didn’t come off but that I wasn’t touching her unprotected.

Eventually, I rolled back over and she, gracious girl that she was, finished me off with her mouth (condom: Still on.)

Time elapsed: About 20 minutes. We chatted for a bit, she told me a few stories of her life of dubious veracity, I thanked her excessively and went back downstairs, put my shoes on again (as I laced up my boots a rather seedy white van stopped right in front of the place and idled in the rain. A couple of Japanese guys with dyed-blonde hair sat in the front seats and gave me a once-over before pulling off) and eventually went back out into the rain.

The second time I went to Tobita was two months later. I reconnoitered a bit more this time, and was flatly ignored by a few mamas. I was asked in by perhaps just as many, and some I didn’t approach at all. Ah, how quickly one becomes choosy.

The girl I chose was, again, young, but strikingly beautiful. She was wearing a dark-blue race-queen dress. Her name, she said in her quarters, was Eri.

Eri was twenty. She had blonde hair and a face like an angel. She was much more petite than You had been, but had smaller breasts. She had the one of the most beautiful pussies I’ve ever seen—a perfect triangle of black hair. Again, she left and came back—presumably to lubricate herself.

She let me touch her only briefly, applied a condom with her mouth as You had done, licked my nipples, fingered my scrotum, and of her own volition sat upon me and rode me until I came. Which was in short order.

This was a girl who, months later, stays in your head so that you relive that moment. I could have spent hours just looking at her. I have no inclination to go find her again—I hope she’s moved on—but she was really a knockout.

Again, we talked afterwards. I believed everything she told me, but it might have all been lies. I told her she should quit this line of work. She said the job wasn’t fun but she made a lot of money. She had come from Kyushu to Osaka when she was a teenager with her boyfriend. I didn’t ask if he was in the picture anymore. She asked me if I had a girlfriend. I lied and said no.

The third time was a girl named Kana, wearing a high school girl’s uniform. On this occasion I chose Kana for the shape of her face and nose—she looked like someone I knew a long time ago. Once more Kana claimed she was twenty. One wonders, but then what can you do? She seemed to be proud of the uniform-bit but I am not really into that.

Kana spoke to me quite a bit. I got the feeling she was trying to see how much Japanese I knew. For some reason I told her my real name. After a little small talk, she moved next to me and said “So I’m an E-Cup. Touch them.” I did.

I took off her sweater, unbuttoned her blouse, and she took off her elastic-banded bra. She sat there topless and I sucked her lovely E-cup breasts. On cue, but straightforwardly, asked me to wait a second and applied the lubricating jelly to herself right there in front of me. Then she put the condom on, applying it with her hand. I think Kana may have been new: She said she had only worked there a week.

I fucked her while she was still wearing the plaid schoolgirl skirt. Eventually I asked her to take the skirt off, and we both managed to slip it off her. She wouldn’t let me do her from behind: “It’s a little painful,” she said.

I wondered if she had misunderstood—I am not into anal, and tried to tell her I just meant rear-entry—but either she didn’t get it or even rear-entry was a no-go, because she was having nothing of it.

We fucked for the full time. She did in fact have E-cup breasts, the prettiest I have seen on a Japanese girl. Pink aureole. Very firm and shaky, that familiar up and down all around motion as you admire her beneath your thrusts. Kana was also blonde. She looked at my face as I was riding her, but her noises were less-than-convincing.

With Kana I almost went over-time. I wanted to chide her if she had only let me do her from behind this could have been over a lot sooner, but then what the hell was I complaining about.

The last time I went to Tobita I was with a girl named Yuka, who of all four girls was definitely in her twenties. She was average size but with large breasts—for a reason. You could feel the silicone. This put me off a bit, but she was wearing garters and thigh-stockings which were preoccupying enough that I didn’t care about fake tits.

Yuka was a veritable conversationalist. She couldn’t stop talking, even when I was fucking her breasts—she kept saying “Oh, this is making me so shy.” Right, Yuka. But she was sweet enough, and of all the girls she really wanted to show me a good time.

I fucked her sideways (with a condom—though Yuka had fellated me for a minute or so bareback before she put the condom on) and came very quickly. She kept asking me to do it to her from behind, but I was pretty well spent.

After this she gave me a long, though inexpert, back massage. She seemed disappointed it was all over so fast (she wasn’t the only one.) As I mentioned, throughout all this was a steady stream of conversation. At the end, after I had dressed, she wrote her mobile phone email address on a small business card and asked me to mail her. She seemed very sincere.

The e-mail came back undeliverable. It’s just as well.

So that’s Tobita from my side. I don’t take pictures there and don’t encourage it. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t see the place as a tourist attraction—at least not like Disneyland or USJ. It’s as much a cultural experience as a tea ceremony, and in my book we should respect the rules of the house (and in Tobita the whole couple of blocks constitutes the house.) There are even signs saying “NO PHOTOS!”

Hope this was interesting.

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[QUOTE=JeonBear]However I can not find Juso station. Where is Juso?
... does Tobita open even mifnight?[/QUOTE]

Juso is the main hub of the Hankyu Train Line, about 5 minutes from Umeda(Osaka).

Tobita is more active at nifht.

[QUOTE=JeonBear]However I can not find Juso station. Where is Juso?

One more question is where is Napoleon Building.

Please help me.

By the way, does Tobita open even mifnight?[/QUOTE]Juso is easier to get to from the Hankyu Line. To get to the Napoleon building go out the entrance that does not have a KFC or Mr. Donut right at the exit. Go to the other side and walk through the tunnel (Shotengui). Cross the street and veer left. Make a right on the main street where all of the strip\cosplay clubs are (I don't think any of these places let in gaijin). Go to the second block and make a left -- the Napoleon building is the second building on the left. There is a strip club called the Boston Club on the 5th floor (gaijin friendly -- decent girls). On the third floor is a pink saloon that is also gaijin friendly if you speak moderate Japanese. The tout outside will offer it to you if you ask about the Boston Club.

Planned on going to Club Coco, but had trouble finding it on account of it moving down the street.

Inquired at the free "an nai" center and the attendent called Coco's for me, mumbled something about foreigner, and said they would be open 3 hours later. I decided to take a chance and head up on my own, hoping my language skills might get me in sooner. Turned out the door was closed, but I noticed an Este place just one floor down.

The guy was friendly, and promised the picts were the actual girls, and that for 15,000/60min all included. They have a 80min course for 18,000(?). I think you might get 2 shots with that one.

We chatted for about 15 minutes while waiting-he is Chinese but passes for Japanese easily. I complained about the Tokyo rip-offs, but he said all his girls provided excellent service and didn't request tips or more money.

When my gal, Yuko, showed up she was pretty much like the pict, just not as stylish that day the pro had her pose. Body a 7-8, face 6. About 155cm/45kg/26yrs. We headed down the street to a hotel (she paid 2,500) and got down to business.

Showered together, fantastic 25 minute massage, BBBJ, and FS. Showered and wrapped up the whole adventure at about the 50minute mark.

Wasn't pure GFE, but was pleasent and the massage was outstanding (she was a massauese in China). Her Japanese was pretty good, but no English.

She called the shop and had me confirm I was satisfied with the service-something I think is a good touch.

Since Tobita is 11,000 for about 15 mintutes, I think this is the better option. Not rushed, and everything you want in a comfortable hotel setting, but without having to check in and wait for a mystery girl for an unknown period of time.

The name I don't remember exactly, but something like Huan.

Take the #25 exit out of Namba station, walk past the McDonalds and it is just one or two more blocks. You will see the big STEP building across the big road on the right. If you get to the river you have gone 1 block too far.

It is on the 8th floor of the same building of Club Coco, use this map:
[url]http://www.club-coco.com/top.html[/url]

Need I to now Japanese in both clubs or not?

Hello Lion,

I am here in Osaka 3 more days so I wanna have some "fun".

For the 2 Club you wrote need I to speak Japanese or maybe in the "Chinese" one can I speak English? Because I am Eurpoean don't look and Speak Japanese.

Hello Lion,

Thankss for the notice about FC in Osaka. I am here another 3 days and I want to have some fun. Unfortunally I don't speak any Japanese and I don't look Japanese too, so is it impossible to go to CoCo or the other "Chinese" club you wrote?

[QUOTE=Brigategb]Hello Lion,

Thankss for the notice about FC in Osaka. I am here another 3 days and I want to have some fun. Unfortunally I don't speak any Japanese and I don't look Japanese too, so is it impossible to go to CoCo or the other "Chinese" club you wrote?[/QUOTE]

You might find it less fun to play with someone who can't communicate with, but I doubt the Chinese place will say no.

Coco's might say no if there are no willing girls, but sometimes they are interested in practicing English while they blow you.

Sorry for my 3 post and THX for the answer. But I wanna find Tobita maybe I will do nothing there but just to tell to friend.

2 days ago I try to go there but I never found it.

I take out at Dobutsuen-mae station and choose exit 8-9 (or something like that) and I was in a very poor part of Osaka. Many Homeless People ext.

Wich is the right way to go to Tobita?

[url]http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34%2F39%2F55.802&lon=135%2F30%2F9.608&layer=1&sc=1&mode=map&size=l&pointer=on&p=&CE.x=534&CE.y=375[/url]

Hope this helps. It's almost fool proof.

[url]http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/Tobita/[/url]

I had the EXACT same problem but luckily I am a stubborn ass, so I just kept walking, and then......there is was. Rows and rows of young hot J girls.

I am caucasian, was solo, wearing a jacket and slacks, and got about a 40% "dozo" rate from the mama sans. Don't act like an asshole and you will get invited into some places.

Anyway back to directions. its south east of Dobutsuen mae station. Maybe 500 meters south east of exit 2. Exit 2 is your best bet (thanks Tokyo Fun for good directions!!!) go south through the slightly scummy covered shopping arcade. Ignore the homeless. Then make a left after abour 5-10 minutes.

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[QUOTE=Brigategb]Sorry for my 3 post and THX for the answer. But I wanna find Tobita maybe I will do nothing there but just to tell to friend.

2 days ago I try to go there but I never found it.

I take out at Dobutsuen-mae station and choose exit 8-9 (or something like that) and I was in a very poor part of Osaka. Many Homeless People ext.

Wich is the right way to go to Tobita?[/QUOTE]

Finally I found Tobita and it was really a dream as you worte here.

I am a Gaijin and I don't look Asian at all, I am Italian so white skin black Hair. I was in Tobita at 13:00 and 60% of the "Shop" where Open. I was surprise that 70% of Mama san say to me Hello,, or Dozoo. I can't speak Japanese but when I decided wich girl I wanna it was easy to do BumBum. It was like to make love with a GF. So Tobita is Gaijin friendly as long as we go there and we make not Problem. I hope Bad Guys (like me), you will go there to have fun but Gaijin don't make problem or in a Future there will be no More Mamasan invite us to enter this nice world. I think to be there alone and so soon was a tip for me, of course I don't look Dangerous and I was dressing well (Oakley, Hugo Boss, Armani ecc) and I was smiling to all Mama san.

Here I report the bettter way to go to Tobita. Following this instructions it was easy for me to find this Incredible place:

[QUOTE=Teddy Johnwa]Hi,

Just landed in Osaka for few days trip and visited Tobita (hope spelling is correct) the traditional RDL near Tennoji.

A straighforward way to reach the area. Maybe I will make you walk 10 minutes, but you can't miss it. Only straight until a clear landmark. Here it is : get a map of Osaka underground system (you can have one free in any station, just ask the staff they will give you one free in english).

Reach station "Hanazonocho", go to exit 3A. You'll pop out on a pavement at a main traffic light. Do not cross the road, just turn left and follow the pavement. Go straight down following the main road, keep on the left side. Walk for about 5-6 minutes, about 500m. In correspondence to traffic light -the 6th- you will see a small convenience store called "Bread and Food", it has a yellow neon panel resembling a sun. You can't miss it.

Turn left in the small road at this traffic light and you will be in right in the heart of the district. You will notice the white first lanterns of the shops. There is a network of small roads with many shops.

Mamasan are inside with girl on display sited nearby, walk slowly and look at the girls there, sooner or later some of them will call you in. Basically it is a gaijin-friendly district, I went twice and had no problem to be accepted, even if -lets say- about 60% of shop mamasan did not call me in.

I only visit this place during midday or early afternoon because I read in this forum that is a dangerous place. Actually it looks a little eary, with strange people an bums walking around the station area. In the district itself I saw less people... however the air was sort of screaming "behave.... behave....".

In other words I do not think it is a place to go drunken or in groups with "happy" friends, like in the central RLDs. It is the heart of old-style japanese sex life, so its better to be cool there.

If you speak some japanese will help a lot, anyway I don't and everything went smooth.

It is a nice japanese old stile experience. Take care and be safe.

TJ[/QUOTE]

This post will be dedicated to my recent "discovery" of TOBITA/HANAZONOCHO, but before I forget: A great big THANK YOU is going out here to both Brigategb and Teddy Johnwa: You guys rock!

Scheduled, on very short notice, to spend 2 days/2 nights in Osaka earlier this week, I checked this thread the night before.

Never having been to Osaka before (not counting a single brief layover at KIX a couple of years back), I had no idea what to expect. Except that Japan has been called "the land of tears" (somewhere on this forum, as I recall), and has the reputation (deserved or not) of being gaijin unfriendly.

My previous short jaunts to LOT had always been to Fukuoka, always on brief business trips out of Korea. I probably couldn't count the number of times I've walked round Nakasu in vain; and ISG, it must be said, has NOT been a help with Fukuoka, one of LOT's biggest cities. So it's been, what? four or five trips to FUK for me now? And never a shot at any action.

So what happened to me in Osaka the other day came as a VERY pleasant surprise, on more than one level.

First, I jotted down Teddy Johnwa's directions to Tobita before leaving Korea.

I can confirm that they are EXACTLY correct. Hanazonocho Subway Station (conveniently just two stops from NAMBA station, which is essentially the public transport hub of the city), exit 3A, turn left (do not cross the street). I'd just add that you may have to walk more like 10 minutes, maybe 12 or 15 (as opposed to just 5-6), before reaching the "Bread and Food" convenience store. (Of course, I may just be a slow walker, or TJ a fast one.) You'll pass a set of train tracks along the way. "Bread and Food" is impossible to miss, as it's signposted that way IN ENGLISH, with the sign facing onto the street. In other words, it's a bit of a walk, but a straight shot from the subway. Impossible to get lost, even at night.

So I went Wednesday night (Oct. 26) and . . . was disappointed. (On this first, failed visit.) I wandered the entire area between about 10 and 11 PM. Most of the shops were shuttered. There were no cars, and almost no pedestrians, anywhere in sight. The entire area was all but deserted, with precious few signs of life. I was shaking my head in dismay: How can the city's big RLD be closed at this time of night? (To be sure, the first two shops just to the left of Bread and Food did invite me in, but neither of the two gals there appealed to me, so I kept walking.)

I'm a white guy, by the way, and speak no Japanese beyond phrasebook level--just to get that out of the way.

Returning to ISG the following day, I noted that TJ says he likes to go midday, and that Brigategb had also gone in the afternoon. Armed with this fresh new info, I decided to try again.

On my second visit, made around 3 to 4 PM Thursday, I found many, many shops open. (Most, seemingly, were still shuttered. Do some of them never open? Is Japan still that depressed economically, or are the police and/or yakuza involved somehow? I'm curious: any Japan veterans out there with some insight?) By daylight, it was more clear than clear to me that I'd stumbled open what has to be one of the largest RLD's anywhere on earth, stretching for many, many blocks in every direction, with almost every single storefront a brothel (if most, once again, shuttered). Enough of them, however, (100+?) were open for business that the effect was still impressive.

Each shopfront featured an identical mise-en-scene: An elderly mamasan standing at the opening; a younger woman (mid-twenties to maybe 35 or 40) sitting in a chair a few steps behing her. All the women I saw wore Western-style dresses (off-the-shoulder, but not otherwise sexy) or, in a few cases, kimonos. They were not overly made-up or noticeably "whorish." The few propositions I received, all from the mamasans, were not aggressive in nature. Simply, "Dozo."

After many circuits of the neighborhood, I turned a corner and was greeted by my fourth or fifth "Dozo." (Most mamas ignored me, but I don't know if that's because I'm gaijin or because I don't speak the language and wasn't trying any method of approach save occasional eye contact.) This one seemed pleasant and polite, so I stopped to acknowledge her greeting. The youngish, pretty provider jumped out of chair, and greeted me with a warm smile. Everything seeming to be copacetic, I agreed to pay the 11,000 yen tariff (for 20 mins.). No problem with the language barrier: The price was posted on the wall, in prominent Arabic numerals, the mama said "twenty minutes" in English, and the provider smiled at me the entire time.

What followed was unmistakeably one of the best 20 minutes of my entire life.

I'm not going to add many details, because they couldn't do justice to the experience. Suffice it to say that the entire session was HIGHLY GFE, and VERY, VERY professional.

Having been to Thailand several times now, and with Tobita as a brand new point of comparison (I'd never been with a J-Gal before), I've got to say that my whole world has been rocked. Who needs BKK, when Japan can provide for you like this? (I won't even mention Korea. Nightmares.)

To sure, 11,000 yen looks a bit on the steep side. Consider though: A visit to Soi Cowboy. One drink for you, one for the lady. A second round, maybe a third; maybe a semi-mandatory mamasan drink or two. A barfine. Short-time might be quoted at 1500 baht. You might be asked to take the gal upstairs, in which case you'll be charged for the room. All that might set you back close to 4000 baht, which at today's exchange rate comes to . . . 12,800 yen.

JAPAN WINS, HANDS DOWN!

Thank you mamasan, and thank you, my anonymous Tobita GF for 20 minutes!

Thanks no less to Jackson, Brigategb, and Teddy Johnwa: it wouldn't have happened without you!


Sukhumvit Sam








[QUOTE=Brigategb]Finally I found Tobita and it was really a dream as you worte here.

I am a Gaijin and I don't look Asian at all, I am Italian so white skin black Hair. I was in Tobita at 13:00 and 60% of the "Shop" where Open. I was surprise that 70% of Mama san say to me Hello,, or Dozoo. I can't speak Japanese but when I decided wich girl I wanna it was easy to do BumBum. It was like to make love with a GF. So Tobita is Gaijin friendly as long as we go there and we make not Problem. I hope Bad Guys (like me), you will go there to have fun but Gaijin don't make problem or in a Future there will be no More Mamasan invite us to enter this nice world. I think to be there alone and so soon was a tip for me, of course I don't look Dangerous and I was dressing well (Oakley, Hugo Boss, Armani ecc) and I was smiling to all Mama san.

Here I report the bettter way to go to Tobita. Following this instructions it was easy for me to find this Incredible place:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sukhumvit Sam]Thank you mamasan, and thank you, my anonymous Tobita GF for 20 minutes!

Thanks no less to Jackson, Brigategb, and Teddy Johnwa: it wouldn't have happened without you!

Sukhumvit Sam[/QUOTE]It was more or less the same for me. A wonderful experience and i miss my Mamasan and the Girl that was so friendly to me.

It was a pleasure to help you Sam!

Good find. I used the LAT/LON listed on 21Over map to find Tobita on Google Earth. Had to monkey around a little, but found the area. Here are the coords I used for my GE bookmark:

Google Earth
34°38'38.66"N
135°30'19.76"E

[QUOTE=Mikkka]Hope this helps. It's almost fool proof.

[url]http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/Tobita/[/url][/QUOTE]

... thank to you Sam for your detailed report...! I am happy that my instructions worked fine...! And we all have to thank Jackson that made this great site...!

By the way, for all of us, lets keep the Japanese scene up and clean, lets treat these sweet girls well, and let's respect the rules, even when we do not understand them...

Many of us are worried about the "only japanese" approach of too many places in Japan... I know that many of those places are even better than Tobita, if we keep our manner up, more and more shops will be glad to serve a foreigner...

Cheers,

Teddy

[QUOTE=Sukhumvit Sam]Thanks no less to Jackson, Brigategb, and Teddy Johnwa: it wouldn't have happened without you!
Sukhumvit Sam[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Teddy Johnwa]By the way, for all of us, lets keep the Japanese scene up and clean, lets treat these sweet girls well, and let's respect the rules, even when we do not understand them.

Many of us are worried about the "only japanese" approach of too many places in Japan. I know that many of those places are even better than Tobita, if we keep our manner up, more and more shops will be glad to serve a foreigner.

Cheers,

Teddy[/QUOTE]I am with you at 100%.

Hello, I will be in Itami for one night before I fly out for business and was curious if there are any recommendations for delivery health near the area, comments and suggestions are welcome.

Thanks!

Gents,

I am in Osaka today and tomorrow, and am looking to do some mongering, both of the P4P and nampa variety. I've poked around the area today (sorted out where Tobita is) and speak pretty good Japanese. Apologies for the very short notice, but if anyone is game, by all means send me a PM.

Cheers,

HH

Went to Tobita again recently. The experience wasn't the best of the times I've been, but I'll catalogue it here for the curious.

I went on a weekend-- a Saturday just after one p.m. Not the best time, I think. From what I've heard the "shops" only open at noon and not all of them at that. I'd say only about 1/5 of them were open at that time.

There were a few guys walking about, but not so many. I tend to walk a bit behind the Japanese guys, so they're not right behind me. The mamas have mirrors and can see you coming, and by my reckoning they're keen to keep the Japanese clientele, and might ignore you if they think they they'll lose the business of the Japanese who are next in line. This is just a poorly-researched theory.

I stopped in to a place with another girl in a high school uniform. Mainly because I wasn't getting any "Irrashaimase" from most of the other mamas.

Tobita has all sorts--older women, younger women, women in costume, "large" women, and so on. There were more of the "larger" type that day, it seems. A lot of genkan were empty so maybe I was just having bad luck in that the girls who would've really been my type were occupied at the time.

I stopped after one round of one of the blocks--I was in kind of a hurry, so I didn't reconnoiter the whole area.

So I went in, and they asked if I could handle Japanese. No problem.

The girl had no breasts really to speak of, which was disappointing. She was friendly and seemed young--younger than she said, perhaps, but she claimed she was "hatachi"--twenty years old. That seems to be the stock answer.

Her nom de guerre was Miho. I only paid for 15 minutes (11,000 I think). I paid, of course, up front.

Said she was from Osaka city. Dropped the skirt, blouse, loose socks and bra immediately--on retrospect, I would've liked to have taken those off her myself (I should have asked to do so.)

She asked me to lie down on the bed. I obliged, and kneeled beside me and jacked me off for a bit bareback. Her little titties shook during this which was great eye candy. She was cute but not a knockout.

I asked her how long she'd been working (a month) where she was from (Osaka) if she liked the job (ha ha), if there was anything fun about it (the talking part was fun) and then she put the condom on with her mouth and blew me for a minute. Conversation abruptly ceased. (So much for her fun part.)

We swapped positions and I fingered her. She hadn't applied any lubricant, and wasn't so wet, but I wanted to try to prep her for the main event. The clock kept ticking so I just entered her and let her sit in my lap for a bit, me sitting up and hugging her and rubbing her little titties against my chest.

Hard to tell how she felt--she was quite business-like about it all. But I do usually want to at least make the effort to please the girl. Yes, I'm naive.

We kept it up and she bounced up and down on me for a while, me holding the back of her ass. Then I lay her down and fucked her missionary. She was okay with "back-u" so she rolled over and "presented" rearward, and we went doggy style. She had great thighs and a nice ass, and that, as they say, was that.

The Tobita girls are very good about taking care of you once you pop, and she immediately took the condom off me and wiped me down. This is probably a practical measure on their part.

When I left the mama told me I should settle down and marry a nice Japanese girl. This struck me as very funny, but nice of her to say. She gave me three pieces of hard candy as a "saabisu." Again, very endearing.

This was not my best Tobita moment, but still enjoyable. I was out right under 15 minutes, which is shorter than I've ever stayed before.

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I've tried to make a very simple map of the Tobita area.

X is the Tennoji station side. Y is the Shin-Imamiya side. Z near Abeno subway station and W is unimportant.

I've found that I get the most invitations in the section marked B and the least in A. Does anyone else find this to be the case?

C does not have many houses (there are buildings and vacant lots there. D has a few houses but older women. H is the elevated highway. F is residential and has no prostitution.

It is my hope that if we can determine the area that has the greatest success rate for international mongers that it will help us and possibly make it less humiliating and painful to visit Tobita. There is nothing quite like a walk in this area to make a person feel worthless. Especially when you consider that the bearded homeless man under the highway would be accepted by the most beautiful girl if he had the money, simply because he is Japanese. While you would be rejected because you are not.

If you walk from Tennoji station X to Z and then to P it is much cleaner and nicer than walking through the shopping street. Or from Z to P if you take subway ( Tanimachi T28)

I'd be very interested to read where most mongers have had the most success. I walked through A first and was so depressed by the expressions of disgust on all the faces of those beautiful girls that I raced through B despite the invitations. I left with my money and thoroughly defeated. When I try again I'll start with section B.

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........... H.......a...................
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W ..........p............................ Z

The massage palour located near Wendy's in Namba has closed down and moved.
If you walk to the Takashimaya department store and stand in from of it you'll be able to see an elevated highway. Cross the street so you are under the highway and cross the street again (staying under the highway) and walk about 40 meters (the elevated highway is across the street on your right. There is a convenience store with a red sign (Daily Yamazaki) on the left then a business school. Turn down the first street on the left and (right around the corner-a few steps) you'll see the little princess in the ball cap on the left. It is located in the basement and I think there is a yellow sign there.

It would be interesting to know what people pay in this shop and what they get.
All I've ever gotten was an ok handjob by the old woman and her assistant (it was too dark to tell much) The handjob was ok she let a little semen ooze out before she mopped it up. There is nothing quite like having a handtowel pressed down on the top of your apparatus while the urge to cum is building. It takes most of the pleasure out of it!

I moved all but 8,000 yen from my wallet and paid my 5,000. uturally she wanted more once I was squished into the booth. She'll happily relieve you of all you have and give you a handjob no matter how much money you give her. This is my opinion.
In the evening there is a man occupying her position as tout and he has never acknowledged my existece.

The only other place I know of in Namba that will hail foreigners in located on the street behind the Kenucky Fried Chicken. If you walk along it a tall man with glasses and a slight resemblance to Lurch (The Adams Family character) will grunt at you. I haven't tried to sample his wares yet.

A good question, since few of us are able/willing to pay 44,000 for an hour (Sudsy aside) but happy to pay Tobita rates.

However the answer is fairly simple and related to how much money is in a guy's pocket and how horny he is.

Often guys just want to get off, and it is here a 3,000-5,000 BJ or a 10,000 Tobita lay is sufficient. This is especially true if you are about to go out on the town and want to take the edge off before a night of Nampa.

Other times, taking it easy and paying a beautiful DH gal 25-30,000 for a couple hours of romance is more desirable.

That is a good question, and my answer may be different from others.

I don't have the time windows of a couple of hours for DH. If I did, I'd probably make an arrangement.

Tobita is also relatively easy. Walk in, walk out, job done. Also there is no possibility of not getting who you want. She's right there, and if you aren't into her you just keep walking.

If you know a DH service you can recommend in Osaka, I'm keen to hear about it.

... I just noticed that Asianmystique now offers two girls in Osaka, Reika and Anya.

Has anybody used these providers in Osaka...?

I used asianmystique in Tokyo several times and I was pretty satisfied with Aki, Maho and Maria. I wonder if the service is of the same quality from these "Osaka Girls", especially Anya that looks pretty much european, probably east europe, to me.

TJ

First time to Osaka from Tokyo on a business trip. Other than AM any recommendations of places close by? Is tobita far away from the hotel or within walking distance? I appreciate any help that the members in Osaka can provide.

If you take the midosuji subway to Tennoji you'll be very near Tobita.

The Midosuji subway is the red line on the maps.

At Tennoji station it might be easiest to exit the subwayin the Kntetsu Department store. Walk up to the 2nd floor and go outside on the pedestrian bridge. As you exit the dept store you'll see the JR station right across from you. Turn left and the Kntetsu Department store will be on you left and the station on your right.

Walk straight over the street and down the stairs and toward Osaka City Hospital. You'll pass a few buildings on your left (Apollo building ,Lucius) and then you'll get to the hospital. Turn in and walk behind the hospital always heading downhill. You'll see the start of a shopping street on your right and a housing complex on your left. Just past the shopping street are some stairs and once you go down them you will be in Tobita.

So it you stand between the dept store and the station the dept store is 9:00 - station is 3:00- you start walking towards 12:00 , but your general direction is 11:00
So turn in the road between the hospital buildings and go up the small hill - the road goes down and curves to the right-you see the shopping street and down the stairs into Tobita.

Thank you. I get to Osaka by this afternoon and wanted to make sure that I get a chance to see Tobita. I don't have an Osaka subway map with me and my computer is screwed up right now that I can't see PDF files. Anyways, I am assuming it isn't too far. Is there any other action near my hotel that you may be aware of? I wish I could give such clear, concise directions for you if you were in Tokyo but I just got there too. If you need to know anything about Seoul, I can help you there.

[QUOTE=Romannose]If you take the midosuji subway to Tennoji you'll be very near Tobita.

The Midosuji subway is the red line on the maps.

At Tennoji station it might be easiest to exit the subwayin the Kntetsu Department store. Walk up to the 2nd floor and go outside on the pedestrian bridge. As you exit the dept store you'll see the JR station right across from you. Turn left and the Kntetsu Department store will be on you left and the station on your right.

Walk straight over the street and down the stairs and toward Osaka City Hospital. You'll pass a few buildings on your left (Apollo building ,Lucius) and then you'll get to the hospital. Turn in and walk behind the hospital always heading downhill. You'll see the start of a shopping street on your right and a housing complex on your left. Just past the shopping street are some stairs and once you go down them you will be in Tobita.

So it you stand between the dept store and the station the dept store is 9:00 - station is 3:00- you start walking towards 12:00 , but your general direction is 11:00
So turn in the road between the hospital buildings and go up the small hill - the road goes down and curves to the right-you see the shopping street and down the stairs into Tobita.[/QUOTE]

If you ask for a tourist map at your hotel.

Your hotel should be near Yodoyobashi station which is on the Midosuji line.

Ask them for a map and ask for Osaka city hospital. You won't be giving anything away, so have no fear.

Map [url]http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/Tobita/[/url]

or THE Nationwide SUKEBE JAPAN

I think it is best to get there from Tennoji because it is really easy to ask directions for and to find.

It is also a much nicer and possibly safer way to get to Tobita.

The map at Nationwide SUKEBE is good and you can see the hospital right next to the (to Tennoji) written on the map.

[QUOTE=Stickmanfob]Thank you. I get to Osaka by this afternoon and wanted to make sure that I get a chance to see Tobita. I don't have an Osaka subway map with me and my computer is screwed up right now that I can't see PDF files. Anyways, I am assuming it isn't too far. Is there any other action near my hotel that you may be aware of? I wish I could give such clear, concise directions for you if you were in Tokyo but I just got there too. If you need to know anything about Seoul, I can help you there.[/QUOTE]

I may take you up on your offer of info for Seoul next month, if my planned trip takes place.

As for Osaka, Tobita is the best place for guaranteed FS with J-gals.

There are some Chinese este that are OK, and Club Coco (in Namba) has foreigner friendly gals sometimes.

[url]http://www.club-coco.com/[/url]

You'll be turned away from 95% of the places you try to enter, but this guy will never be refused.

[url]https://ec.sod.co.jp/ec/shop2/f_main.jsp[/url]

Looking for a Gaijin friendly Soapland. Thanks!

[QUOTE=sushiboy1]Looking for a Gaijin friendly Soapland. Thanks![/QUOTE]

I haven't much luck in Kansai, but then again I have never attempted to find the Osaka Soaps.

I suggest going in the afternoon when business is slow and there is less chance you will scare off any Japanese customers.

I did find one (and only one) in Kobe's district. They said no at first, but then I said my friend had been there and then said OK, but I needed to pay an extra 5,000, making the price 20,000/60minutes. I think that was an all-inclusive price, but I am not 100% sure. According to Sudsy (on the Tokyo board), he pays the entrance plus three or four times that for the girl. In any case, I didn't like the gaijin tax, so I declined.

[url]http://jl-club.jp/home/index.html[/url]

Best of luck. Be sure to report back successes (and failures as well).

[QUOTE]I seem to recall someone telling me not so long ago that soaplands are now outlawed in Osaka city. If someone knows otherwise, please post so.[/QUOTE]

I did a quick check and it looks like this is right. No soaps listed on Fu-Town.

Here are some in the Kansai area, not too far away-good luck:
[url]http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f06/f06_0206.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f06/f06_0406.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/a/f06/f06_0606.htm[/url]

Has anyone done any mongering near Hankyu Nishinakajima station?

On the Umeda track there are a few interesting businesses.

There used to be a CoCos there, but it is gone also.

Isn't there a soapland near the Tower Records in Shinsaibashi?

The last time I posted a link it was a tremendous failure.

I found this site in the Kansai Flea Market this site claims to be able to be able to teach-Learn The Unspoken Secrets To Attract Any Girl In Japan

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It is still under construction and may never get going, but it might provide a few laughs or (gasp) useful information.

Maybe I should have said in American-mura. There is a Tower Records there (it might have closed, but the building and sign are there).

If you go to Sports Takahashi it has a river on one side and a street on the other. Cross that street and turn down the next. Then walk down to the end of it. You might see a soapland in a white building on the left.

That's the place!

Why not put your fabulous brain to work for some of the readers of this forum!

Where are some foreigner friendly establishments in Osaka? You know what I mean by "establishments",right (wink-wink nudge-nudge)

Are there any near Nishinakajima-minamikata (Hankyu) station?

How about around Hanshin Amagasaki station?

Hmmmmm, that's enough work for now. You seem to know a great deal and should put that knowledge to work for the good of this little community.

Any one else with information on those areas?

There still are quite a few pink places in that area, though most are not foreigner friendly. The exceptions are the re-located Cocos and some Chinese este offering FS (both are hotel DH rather than on premises).

A puzzle for the curious in Osaka-follow the green line to the dog in Stephan King's movie and peramblulate near the shopping street.

Hi everyone,

I was just wondering if anyone could give me any pointers as to where the Dotonbori Coco's has moved to. I saw a map on their website, but still couldn't see any signs when I got there.

[QUOTE=Slippery Slide]Hi everyone,

I was just wondering if anyone could give me any pointers as to where the Dotonbori Coco's has moved to. I saw a map on their website, but still couldn't see any signs when I got there.[/QUOTE]

Follow the instructions I gave at the end of this post:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=518952&highlight=coco#post518952[/url]

[QUOTE]Ah, I think I know where you mean. It's a few blocks south of amemura's triangle park. It's dotobori area, where the canal is and lots of love hotels, yeah? I think the place you're thinking of is a sauna called 'New Osaka'. Has a great sign on the building that says 'say farewell to wealth and Hello to health'. Is that the one? I've also heard that there used to be a soapy there, but that it disappeared with the rest of them.[/QUOTE]Just to clear this up, so noboby gets red faced.

The place mentioned above is the NEW Japan sauna. You can get a massage that you can tell your mother about there. Their giant sign says "say farewell to......."

There are two shops called Minami mat health in Shinsaibashi Lupin the 1st and Lupin the 2nd. Follow the directions in my other post on the subject.

There is also another place called Club Rich which also offers mat play.

If you are asian and speak Japanese give it a try.

I know these are there because I went there and looked today.

Take the chuo-line (green line) to Kujo. When you get to the station take exit 6. Make sure that you are exiting on the Osaka-dome side. At the bottom of stairs the shopping street will be on your left and the road on your right. Turn and put the road on your left and the shopping street on your left. Now walk towards the large orange hotel sign. Then turn right and start looking for those white signs you see in Tobita. This area is the same, but smaller.

Hope that some people will post reports and share information.

Walked around tonight and a ton of places that looked like hostess bars? Is there anything for those who can't speak Japanese in this area? I saw one or two massage places but didn't look like it was even rub and tug.

Hopefully this map will help you find the Kujo-brothel area. You want to head for the area between the 4 and the 12.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=34.675628,135.475325&spn=0.002069,0.002789&om=1[/url]

[url]http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&om=1&z=18&ll=34.725482,135.498805&spn=0.002068,0.002789[/url]

This is Nishinakajimaminamikata station. It is two stops from Umeda on the Midosuji line. You can see a Lawson on the left and an H on the right. Walk towards the H. On the small street that says SANKI there are several massage parlors. There are also some in the area marked 14. There are also many hostess clubs, so beware of entrapment late at night.

This is Hanshin Amagasaki station. If you walk to the D (Daily Store) and walk west (using the map arrows as a convenient compass) you'll find a sex shop area. You might have to walk about as far as the Kentury Fried Chicken (but don't turn south that street. Once you locate the sex shop area you'll want to go 1 block north and then walk back towards the Daily store. So D -- to the same street as the KFC---then north 1 block and back.

[url]http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=34.719904,135.416408&spn=0.004136,0.005579&om=1[/url]

This is the area around Juso station. The space betweem the McDonalds and the Mos Burger/Family Mart is full of exciting shops. Don't cross the street to the Mos Burger there is nothing on that side of the road.

There are a few shops on the Kentucky Fried Chicken side of the station. At the KFC or Mr Donut turn north (using the map key as a compass and walk up the shopping street there are a few shops towards the end. So you want to walk from the KFC towards the Lawson. But use the shopping street next to the tracks. And don't go to the Lawson there is nothing there. It is just a landmark for direction purposes.

[url]http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&om=1&z=17&ll=34.719948,135.48268&spn=0.004136,0.005579[/url]

Use the map key as a compass the directions are not actual.

This is Umeda. Move the map west and you'll see the stations and you'll have a good idea how to get there.

You'll notice a pink area on the road, this is the Whity Umeda underground shopping mall.

Look for the Sunkus and you'll see some very small pink bars which are the exits from the underground mall. To the north of the Sunkus there are two more exits. The exits facing south and both sides of the road are a hang out for street walkers. The exits facing SOUTH on both sides. Sometimes you can see a woman sitting or standing on the steps. Sometimes they are there and sometimes they aren't. THIS ISN'T FOR NOVICES. There are lots of securty cameras, security guards, pimps, strange men and men seeking the prostitutes. I wouldn't fool around here. If you speak Japanese and know what to look for you can find something, if you are lucky. If you don't speak Japanese, are drunk then stay away. You can find a lot of trouble if you screw up.

Look at the map again and you can see an M (Mos Burger, it is gone and there is a Sunkus there now), A D (Daily store a Family Mart. This is an area full of various sex entertainment shops. Near the H you can almost always find a pimp for some non-Japanese.

[url]http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=34.701423,135.503247&spn=0.004137,0.005579&om=1[/url]

This is another spot in Umeda.

Across the street from the 7-11 you can see a 17. Head for that and then walk south to the raod with the < arrows. walk up that and you'll find a group of massage shops on the RIGHT.

The left side of the road has some cafes and shops that cater to Osaka's homosexual population. There is also a gay bar near here. This side isn't as busy the one mentioned above and might be worth a look.

[url]http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=34.701423,135.503247&spn=0.004137,0.005579&om=1[/url]

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Wow, the Osaka section is limp these days.

Recently enjoyed a girl named Megumi, who actually is endowed like and somewhat resembles the J-talent by the same name. Thus the moniker, I guess. Short blondish hair. Was gracious enough to let me fuck her but not incredibly into it (I applaud her all the same for what must be a tiresome job). Great (real) breasts. Probably an F cup (Japanese size). She said she works almost every day, which was surprising to me for some reason. The one thing I noted was when she was standing on her knees and I was fingering her and sucking her titties, she seemed to want to get right to the act. Maybe to get me done asap. Anyway as soon as I realized this I got down to business. Quick cleanup and bob's your uncle. The mama asked me to come back any time.

The next time I did return, I passed by the same stall which had the same girl, but a different mama who didn’t ask me in. No big deal as I was looking for someone new (why I go to begin with). Megumi was in a sailor suit staring at her fingernails. Before I think she had been in a high school skirt, but a different style. She had said she was 22 or so but so do they all. What I mean is this was not a high school girl.

So I bypassed Megumi and made one round of two of the long alleys. This was a weekend day bout 1 pm. Most of the shops were closed. There was one really well built girl with blond hair at the end but she was done up like a gyaru with the tons o makeup. I was planning to go back to her bc she had major cleavage but in my next round I saw a cute girl in a short black dress and those knee stockings I can’t get enough of.

Her name was Seira and she was in one of the corner stalls. When the mama asked if I was okay the girl looked at me and said "Gommu dake" (only with a condom) and I of course muttered "Hai. " After that, however, she was really chatty (in Japanese) and friendly. The thing is I turned around to go back to Seira: I had passed her when the mama laughed. Acutally the mama had not laughed bc I was not acceptable, was just amused.

Seira was very petite but her legs were long. She talked to me the whole time she was taking off her clothes and putting on the condom and right up until the CBJ. Tiny but tight breasts. After I was "readied" she put some lotion right on the condom and said "Hai! " which meant, I understood, time to get crackin.

She had a very pretty face and I asked if I could kiss her, and she agreed. I don’t somuch care about GFE but if you could have one in the course of 20 minutes, this would have been it. She even seemed to enjoy the sex and said encouraging "kimochi"s during the act.

I finished doing from behind, and she cleaned me right up and after a little longer chatting and re-dressing the little alarm clock buzzed. She kept talking for a few minutes until I felt I should say "It’s time to go, right? " She, again, said come back any time.

Each of these were the 16, 000 for 20 minute "course. " The card usually has the 1 hr. Or 90 min. Option for considerably more, but only until 5 p. M. I think. I have wondered how the longer course varies from the straight in and out. Anyone know? Also, how do Tobita shops get away with FS in the face the Japanese laws?

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Hey guys,

I think this is my first time posting here, but I've used the information I got lurking here to have, what I would have to say, is the best mongering experience I've ever had in Japan.

Generally, I've always felt that mongering in Japan is like box of chocolates. Where wasabi is a common flavor. Tobita is quite different, and I would have to say, the best system for the customer ever invented. If only more places would to this.

First of all, the instructions given on this forum by Romannose were spot on. If I can attempt to help even further:

[url]http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/japan/osaka/344229577[/url]

It was a Thursday night, around 8:30pm, and almost all the shutters were open. I speak fluent Japanese, so I anticipated few problems.

Anyway, I went down the street to take a look at all the girls and also see where I was beckoned. The first mama-san I passed made a crack at me in Japanese after I passed. Not a good sign, but I kept on going. Much better to ignore it and act well in front of the other mama-sans. The place itself was fascinating; never seen anything like it anywhere in Japan. Much like everyone said: it's just like an old red light district. The girls all sit in thier stalls (houses) with a mama-san out front who brings the patrons in by calling to them. Each one has a mirror so they can see when a customer approaches (since the places are narrow, you could walk by them fairly quickly without giving them a chance otherwise).

The girls as a whole were good. There were one or two 9s, a lot of 8s, mostly 7s, and a few 6s and 5s. Nothing lower than that, though (adjust these numbers for yellow fever).

I got called on at approximately 50% of the places I passed. After keeping a mental note of all the girls as I passed, I went back down, and stopped in at my first choice. Unfortunately, I was refused here by the mama-san. Even after it became apperant I spoke Japanese well, she still refused (politely). I politely backed out, and went down two stalls to my second choice. I walked right up to them and they both seemed overjoyed to have me in.

The girl, around 25 or so, called herself Ai (a common name for this work). She was wearing a cute white teddy. She was about a be cup, but was slight, had clear skin, and had a cute personality (something that some of us who have lived here for a while appreciate). She was very professional, but in a way that you almost couldn't detect.

It was a small tatami room, with a futon and two tables; one for business, and one decorated with stuffed animals (a nice touch. Aside from it's sparseness, it seemed very much like a girl's room. Perhaps it is). We talked a little bit and she gave me tea. We then got down to the price: 11, 000yen for 15 minutes, or 16, 000 for 20 minutes (pretty much what everyone's said about Tobita thus far).

She then went off to prepare. I waited until she came back, and then waited for her to begin to undress. Once this happened, I got onto the futon, and she went to work. She started with a BBBJ to start off, and since it's been a long time for me, I almost went right there, but had to stop her. FS is what I came for, after all. She then the mouth-applied condom method.

Not sure of exactly how long 15 minutes was, and since I really wanted to get started, we just went at it missionary. She was reasonably enthusiastic, but to be honest, I was really beyond the point of caring. She was reasonably small (maybe 150cm), and really tight, which led to some problems.

She mentioned that the type of condom she had used possibly wasn't the best. It had a tendancy to dry out. This combined with the tightness I mentioned earlier and the fact that I really didn't do much foreplay probably didn' help matters. This is where the professionalism I mentioned earlier came in. I realized afterward that she probably was uncomfortable for at least part of it, but still went with it. I felt kinda bad (true, I went there to get what I wanted, but I honestly like women, and don't want them to be uncomfortable).

She did a great job of cleaning me up afterward, and then came by and we had a snack together. We still had a minute or two left (they used a bell that rings when the time is up), and I spent some time flirting with her.

On the way out, there was another girl who ran and hid herself around a corner when she saw me come out of the room. I wondered idly if they did 3p.

Anyway, the mama-san and Ai gave me a good sayonara, and I walked out. I kept getting asked in on my way out of the area and wondered if there was a better way to exit to avoid that problem.

Anyway, it was great. I think I'll go back and get another girl tonight as well.

Thank you to everyone on the forum who's information made this possible!

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Hey guys,

I think this is my first time posting here, but I've used the information I got lurking here to have, what I would have to say, is the best mongering experience I've ever had in Japan.

Generally, I've always felt that mongering in Japan is like box of chocolates. Where wasabi is a common flavor. Tobita is quite different, and I would have to say, the best system for the customer ever invented. If only more places would to this.

First of all, the instructions given on this forum by Romannose were spot on. If I can attempt to help even further:

[url]http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/japan/osaka/344229577[/url]

It was a Thursday night, around 8:30pm, and almost all the shutters were open. I speak fluent Japanese, so I anticipated few problems.

Anyway, I went down the street to take a look at all the girls and also see where I was beckoned. The first mama-san I passed made a crack at me in Japanese after I passed. Not a good sign, but I kept on going. Much better to ignore it and act well in front of the other mama-sans. The place itself was fascinating; never seen anything like it anywhere in Japan. Much like everyone said: it's just like an old red light district. The girls all sit in thier stalls (houses) with a mama-san out front who brings the patrons in by calling to them. Each one has a mirror so they can see when a customer approaches (since the places are narrow, you could walk by them fairly quickly without giving them a chance otherwise).

The girls as a whole were good. There were one or two 9s, a lot of 8s, mostly 7s, and a few 6s and 5s. Nothing lower than that, though (adjust these numbers for yellow fever).

I got called on at approximately 50% of the places I passed. After keeping a mental note of all the girls as I passed, I went back down, and stopped in at my first choice. Unfortunately, I was refused here by the mama-san. Even after it became apperant I spoke Japanese well, she still refused (politely). I politely backed out, and went down two stalls to my second choice. I walked right up to them and they both seemed overjoyed to have me in.

The girl, around 25 or so, called herself Ai (a common name for this work). She was wearing a cute white teddy. She was about a be cup, but was slight, had clear skin, and had a cute personality (something that some of us who have lived here for a while appreciate). She was very professional, but in a way that you almost couldn't detect.

It was a small tatami room, with a futon and two tables; one for business, and one decorated with stuffed animals (a nice touch. Aside from it's sparseness, it seemed very much like a girl's room. Perhaps it is). We talked a little bit and she gave me tea. We then got down to the price: 11, 000yen for 15 minutes, or 16, 000 for 20 minutes (pretty much what everyone's said about Tobita thus far).

She then went off to prepare. I waited until she came back, and then waited for her to begin to undress. Once this happened, I got onto the futon, and she went to work. She started with a BBBJ to start off, and since it's been a long time for me, I almost went right there, but had to stop her. FS is what I came for, after all. She then the mouth-applied condom method.

Not sure of exactly how long 15 minutes was, and since I really wanted to get started, we just went at it missionary. She was reasonably enthusiastic, but to be honest, I was really beyond the point of caring. She was reasonably small (maybe 150cm), and really tight, which led to some problems.

She mentioned that the type of condom she had used possibly wasn't the best. It had a tendancy to dry out. This combined with the tightness I mentioned earlier and the fact that I really didn't do much foreplay probably didn' help matters. This is where the professionalism I mentioned earlier came in. I realized afterward that she probably was uncomfortable for at least part of it, but still went with it. I felt kinda bad (true, I went there to get what I wanted, but I honestly like women, and don't want them to be uncomfortable).

She did a great job of cleaning me up afterward, and then came by and we had a snack together. We still had a minute or two left (they used a bell that rings when the time is up), and I spent some time flirting with her.

On the way out, there was another girl who ran and hid herself around a corner when she saw me come out of the room. I wondered idly if they did 3p.

Anyway, the mama-san and Ai gave me a good sayonara, and I walked out. I kept getting asked in on my way out of the area and wondered if there was a better way to exit to avoid that problem.

Anyway, it was great. I think I'll go back and get another girl tonight as well.

Thank you to everyone on the forum who's information made this possible!

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I have done a lot of internet research for hotel health (hoteru herusu or in short hoteheru) in Osaka. The result was a print-out of several pages with names, prices, office hours, maps and discount coupons. I knew most of them might be off-limits for foreigners but at least one, Club Coco in Namba, had been described as gaijin-friendly on this board.

On a Saturday morning I started my tour in Umeda. From JR Osaka Stn. I followed the directions for Hanshin Railway Umeda Stn. and continued my way eastward through the Whity underground shopping mall to exit M14. The red light district is located to the south-east of this exit.

My first try was Freajia, a hoteheru with married women (hitoduma) and very low prices. See its homepage [url]http://www.osaka-093.com/fa/pc/main/main.html[/url] for directions and rates and [url]http://kansai.bigdesire.co.jp/shop.php?shop=163[/url] for a discount coupon. The coupon gives you a 60 min course for as less as 7,900 Yen; even inclusive the hotel room charge.

Using the map from the homepage I found the place (Diamond Building) easily. Freajia is located on the fourth floor. In the same building there is another hoteheru, Umeda Dress ([url]http://www.d-ress.net/top.html[/url]) on B1F. I don't know whether this place admits foreigners.

I entered Freajia and asked my standard question: "Gaikokujin demo ii desu ka?" The staffer hesitated a bit, let me confirm that I speak Japanese and went to the adjacent room, apparently to ask the girls. Their answer must have been in the affirmative, because he admitted me then. I was really surprised that my first try turned out to be a hit.

Next he showed me the menu. I read about a 60 min special for only 7,900 Yen, far below the rates on the homepage. In other words, I did not need the discount coupon at all. I agreed to pay 1,000 Yen more for a choice of the girl from a picture list. Maybe I could have saved this option because I was advised then that only one girl was available right away. She looked nice on the pic, so I took her. In reality, she was a bit chubbier than the pic suggested, though.

She took me to a nearby love hotel, a no-frills one. The room was very small. My girl, maybe in her lower 30s, asked me to sit down on the bed. She prepared the bath tub and filled it with water. Until the tub was ready there was time for a small talk. I was her first Western foreigner so far, she had had only experiences with Indian and Chinese guys at the place where she had worked before. At Freajia she had not met a foreigner yet. She said that she was a bit embaressed ("hazukashii") about her first encounter with a Caucasian.

When the bath was ready we undressed and went to the bath room. She washed me and had me soak in the bath tub for a few minutes. Then she dried me off and we returned to the bed. The session on the bed was rather short as there wasn't that much time left: some sensual massage, a BBBJ and a final HJ (I am not complaining at all though, considering the low price I payed). No DFK which is mentioned on the homepage as part of the service; no FS. A quick shower, a short soak in the tub, and that was it. Time over, she had to hurry back to her office.

After all it was a decent experience with a nice woman and very very inexpensive.

In the evening of the same day, I went to Club Coco in Namba on Dotonbori ([url]http://www.club-coco.com[/url]). It took me quite a while to find the place. Finally I realised it is located in the less frequented part of Dotonbori, west of Midosuji-dori. I was easily admitted and payed 16,000 Yen for 60 min. and 2,300 Yen for the love hotel room. I refrained to pay another 2,000 Yen for a choice of the girl and let the staffer choose (omakase). No regret, my girl Rio was young (25), nice, and pretty. She said I was her first gaijin. We walked westward to a fancy love hotel. The room was spacious and luxurious. We undressed and she washed me under the shower. She didn't fill the bathtub and saved a lot of time this way. On the bed she caressed and licked my body, performed BBBJ, let me fondle her pussy. After about 30 minutes the final HJ. Alas, no DFK. Of course no FS. Another shower and 60 min. were over. After all a very good experience, a bit pricey, but worth it.

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What's the value of this without any directions? Can't you write how to get there? For example-walk past the ujf bank and turn right it's across from a book store with a yellow sign.

In the evening of the same day, I went to Club Coco in Namba on Dotonbori ([url]http://www.club-coco.com[/url]). It took me quite a while to find the place. Finally I realised it is located in the less frequented part of Dotonbori, west of Midosuji-dori. I was easily admitted and payed 16,000 Yen for 60 min. and 2,300 Yen for the love hotel room. I refrained to pay another 2,000 Yen for a choice of the girl and let the staffer choose (omakase). No regret, my girl Rio was young (25), nice, and pretty. She said I was her first gaijin. We walked westward to a fancy love hotel. The room was spacious and luxurious. We undressed and she washed me under the shower. She didn't fill the bathtub and saved a lot of time this way. On the bed she caressed and licked my body, performed BBBJ, let me fondle her pussy. After about 30 minutes the final HJ. Alas, no DFK. Of course no FS. Another shower and 60 min. were over. After all a very good experience, a bit pricey, but worth it.

Okay, I went back to Tobita once more before I left Osaka (the previous night was great, and I craved more).

This time it was a Friday night, and there were many more people on the street. One thing I noticed because of this was that the mama-sans were more picky - my call-out rate went down to about 30% from 50% the previous night. I walked around for quite a while this time, and discovered all the side streets that also had stalls.

Once again, my first choice was rejected, and I accepted it politely. I walked next door, and saw a new girl (pretty sure at this point that some of the places which have two rooms do a rotation - one girl is shown until she's sold, they go up, and then the other comes out to be shown. Anyway, I hadn't seen this girl the first time, and I was called in, and was sold immediately.

Mako was the name she went by, and she was wearing rather trendy clothes with a short jean skirt. The thing that struck me about her, though, is the look in her eyes that she was actually glad to see me (different than a typical Japanese "I'm here to serve you" style). This is where the suprise came in - she was siting down in a presentation pose when I came in, but then after I had agreed to go inside, she stood up. She was only 148cm tall (I asked later). Still, her perportions were really good, so I really couldn't complain.

We went upstairs and spoke for quite a while and talked for far longer than the mama-san wanted, I'm sure. We decided on the price (15 minutes again - I'm a frugal bastard), and then she went to get ready.

Since I had done everything quickly the last time, I took my time on this one. We talked some more, and I touched her all over, and held her perfectly formed breasts (only a B-Cup, but DAMN were they perfect, perky, and had beautiful nipples).

She started off with the cowgirl, sideways, and then finished everything off. Through the whole thing, it was very fun to "juggle" her, as her size and weight made her quite... um, easily movable.

Throughout the whole thing, we talked a a lot, and she was the sweetest little thing. Had I not been paying her for the experience, I might have been taken by her - a true GFE to say the least. She was "politely" reminded by the mama-san that we were over time, and led me outside.

I thought the previous night was good, but this was far, far better.

Remember, everyone: be good in Tobita - it's truly a gem of a place IN ANY COUNTRY, and I will personally hunt down anyone who messes it up for us foreigners.

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[QUOTE=Romannose]What's the value of this without any directions? Can't you write how to get there? For example-walk past the ujf bank and turn right it's across from a book store with a yellow sign.
[/QUOTE]

Hello Romannose

I think the "value" of Hunter20's post is that it is a well-written post and gives a lot of useful information.

Your questions to Hunter20 are very direct and sound a little rude and impolite.

Did you mean to sound like this? I'm not sure why you would because Hunter20 has made some great posts recently on the Osaka, Kyoto and Tokyo threads, most of which have had "reports of distinction" recommendations from the board moderators. Many people will benefit if he becomes a regular on the Japan board.

As for your request (demand?) for directions, did you notice Hunter20 included Club Coco's website in his report? The website has a map. If you RTFF, you can find other posts on Club Coco which include written directions.

Hunter20, thanks for the useful reports you've submitted recently. I hope you'll keep posting and please don't be put off by any posts from other members which might be interpreted as rude.

Irv

Some great posts about Tobita below. I always thought it was out of bounds for gaijin, so I’ll have to check it out again. And I think it has the best looking lasses of any pro-area I’ve been to, so a trip down there has to be done.

Cheers for the heads up lads.

There is nothing in his reports that shows he, she or it had a pedestrians view of Osaka or Kyoto. I am not familiar with Tokyo, so I can't comment about that.
I think the reports are fake, false and fantasy.

Your questions to Hunter20 are very direct and sound a little rude and impolite.

Did you mean to sound like this? I'm not sure why you would because Hunter20 has made some great posts recently on the Osaka, Kyoto and Tokyo threads, most of which have had "reports of distinction" recommendations from the board moderators. Many people will benefit if he becomes a regular on the Japan board.

[QUOTE=Romannose]There is nothing in his reports that shows he, she or it had a pedestrians view of Osaka or Kyoto. I am not familiar with Tokyo, so I can't comment about that.

I think the reports are fake, false and fantasy.[/QUOTE]Well, Romannose, are you the kind of guy who shoots first and asks later? And please use the "quote" function of this board which makes it easier to understand your posts.

Irv Washington is absolutely right in his assumption. I didn't want to bore you with directions that you can easily find out when you look at the websites I mentioned in my post on hoteheru. But when you look at the maps of these (and other) websites I often find it difficult to get to the starting point as the names of railway stations and streets are written in Kanji. That's why I described how I made my way from JR Osaka to the exit M14. For the same reason I gave you some idea in which part of Doutonbori you can find Club Coco. If you combine my directions and the maps you will get there easily.

Thanks, Romannose, for giving me the idea that my post could be misunderstood (by at least one person). Next time I will state it more clearly when I refer to a certain webpage or map.

If you still think my reports are fake please don't go to the places I mentioned. I won't mind.

[QUOTE=Irv Washington][...]if he becomes a regular on the Japan board.
[...]Hunter20, thanks for the useful reports you've submitted recently. I hope you'll keep posting and please don't be put off by any posts from other members which might be interpreted as rude.

Irv[/QUOTE]Thanks, Irv, for your support. I really appreciate it. I won't be able to become a "regular" on this board as I don't live in Japan and only travel to Japan from time to time. But I will always share my experiences with the board community because I got a lot of information from the board members and would like to give something in return.

Take care,

Hunter

Roman, I'm not sure what your problem is, but Hunter's report rings true to me. If you need directions, asking politely might be more effective than agressively questioning the value of Hunter's report and the veracity of his words.


[QUOTE=Romannose]There is nothing in his reports that shows he, she or it had a pedestrians view of Osaka or Kyoto. I am not familiar with Tokyo, so I can't comment about that.
I think the reports are fake, false and fantasy.[/QUOTE]

Sudsy,

While you were sitting and pontificating, I went. There are no foreigners allowed.

Does that make any sense to you?

[QUOTE=Romannose]Sudsy,

While you were sitting and pontificating, I went. There are no foreigners allowed.

Does that make any sense to you?[/QUOTE]Romannose,

As you don't believe me let me quote some other board members:

[QUOTE=Asian Travels][...]and Club Coco (in Namba) has foreigner friendly gals [B]sometimes[/B].

[url]http://www.club-coco.com/[/url][/QUOTE][QUOTE=Lion]Coco's might [B]say no if there are no willing girls[/B], but sometimes they are interested in practicing English while they blow you.[/QUOTE]

As I had posted on the Kyoto board recently, I am looking for a gaijin-friendly sexy pub or sexy cabaret (sekukyaba). By web research I prepared a long list of places located in Nishinikajima, Juso and Umeda.

During my short weekend stay in Osaka I actually tried only one: Lip Airliner ([url]http://www.b-hit.net/lip/pc/index.htm[/url]), located in Nishinikajima (Subway Midosuji line and Hankyu Kyoto line, see attached map), within walking distance of JR Shin-Osaka Stn. This shop interested me because there is an "worldwide sites" button on the bottom of the homepage (the "English" button on top doesn't work) which provides a computer translation (by [url]www.excite.co.jp[/url]). I assumed that this webpage appealed to foreign customers. When I tried to get in on a Friday night around 9:30 p.m. I was nevertheless rejected: "I am very sorry, Japanese only." In Japanese I told the staffer of the automatic English translation of the homepage. But he repeated to be very sorry that I could not enter.

Do you know a gaijin-friendly sekukyaba in Kansai?

While Sudsy seems to lash out a posters with the regularity of his menstrual cycles, Irv and Hunter support each other and are most likely one and the same.

Give the places Hunter20 has reported on a try.

Why not try the Club Cocos in SakaiHigashi and don't forget to try Agega while you're at it. The Japanese are very friendly and you'll be welcome. Don't forget to say "Gaikokujin demo ii desu ka?" Why not call before you go, so they can prepare for you. After all it is important to be polite while here.

[QUOTE=Hunter20]Do you know a gaijin-friendly sekukyaba in Kansai?[/QUOTE]

In Kyoto there is a popular place called DX Tohji that I went to a few years back. The amateur show seems to draw a bigger crowd despite the higher fee. I remember watching a girl have her first lesbian experience on stage...

You can dance and rub up against the gals for Y500. Also photos and private chat times for 1,000.

You can even join the girls onstage, with the possibility of having a soapland experience (she is nude, you were your boxers), but beware you may end up getting spanked if you lose the game.

They have an English site, so there should not be a problem getting in.

[url]http://www.dx-tohji.co.jp/[/url]

PS Good reports of late...nice to know someone is getting some action in Kansai.

[QUOTE=Lion]In Kyoto there is a popular place called DX Tohji ...[/QUOTE]Dear Lion,

As you know DX Tohji is a striptease theater offering some games and services in its amateur shows.

I went to DX Tohji this year when the so-called amateur conference was on stage. Some girls wore a mask all the time, maybe they are really amateurs. But there was a professional Japanese-American stripper (Hikari) as well and we could communicate in English.

The striptease on stage did not get me excited that much, perhaps I am getting older... But there was a lot of audience participation, for instance miniature golf on stage. The winner was teased as Lion said. In another game the winner could exercise cunnilingus and got 10 points from the girl, and 8 points for his breast rub.
From time to time some strippers went into the audience room and played jan-ken-pon (stone-scissors-paper) with the customers. If the customer won he was allowed to rub her boobs.

There was also a session of about 30 minutes when all strippers got into the audience and offered services, e.g. a topless lap dance with breast rub for 1,000 Yen, the same with DFK for 2,000 Yen, touching her pussy for 3,000 (?) Yen.

During the show some girls asked customers to follow her. If he agreed they went out of the audience room. I saw some of them sitting in the lobby taking a drink. I am not sure if there are other services, a "pink room" for instance as in some other striptease theaters.

In conclusion, DX Tohji is a striptease theater that provides [I]sekukyaba[/I] services in its amateur shows. I always check its website before I go as I want to see the program and don't go to regular strip shows any more.

Best regards,

Hunter

P.S.: I guess I'd better put this report on the Kyoto board as well.

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[QUOTE=Romannose]While Sudsy seems to lash out a posters with the regularity of his menstrual cycles, Irv and Hunter support each other and are most likely one and the same.

Give the places Hunter20 has reported on a try.

Why not try the Club Cocos in SakaiHigashi and don't forget to try Agega while you're at it. The Japanese are very friendly and you'll be welcome. Don't forget to say "Gaikokujin demo ii desu ka?" Why not call before you go, so they can prepare for you. After all it is important to be polite while here.[/QUOTE]

Hello Romannose

Bad day at the office? :(

For some reason, I decided to look at your recent posts. Why are so many of your posts recently so negative? :( And so impolite and aggressive.

Remember to use the Ignore List. If you don't like Hunter20 or anyone else add them to your ignore list and you'll never be bothered by their posts. In fact, why don't you add everyone to your ignore list? That way, you won't have to look at anyone else's posts - you can just read your posts.

Irving

About a month and a half ago I was in Osaka for business and used this form to find Tobita. I was very happy with my encounters there. I am an Italian-Canadian, with no Japanese and I had a great time with the girls in this district.

I went down there twice, around 9-10ish. Both times the place was hopping and I got "dozo" from about 50% of the shops (more in the crappy parts of the district, less in the better parts). There were also some shops where the mama-san wanted me to come but the girl was apprehensive, and some shops where the girl was excited to see me but the mama-san did not invite me. I had good luck by just waiting till I saw a girl who was very happy to see me, and then choosing her. (I also noticed one interesting thing about the reaction of some of the girls. Sometimes they had a very startled look, almost like a mixture of fear and excitement. I did not know how to interpret this at first, because when I was in Tokyo, some of the free-be girls I picked up also had this very startled look. So in Tokyo I took that as a good sign during street pick up. Anyway, eventually I decided that in Tobita it is not such a good thing as on the streets of Tokyo.)

On my last night in town, I wanted to go for a double header, because the Tobita girls can be quite pretty, and I feel like a kid in a candy shop when I walk around there. My first choice was a 20ish hottie. She had on a short little skirt, knee-high socks and long hair, lightened to a soft brown and in the loose curls so many j-girls like. She was very hot, 8.5-9 for face and beautiful little body. Smooth light skin, pirky little tits, big wide eyes, great hair and make-up like an idol girl.

Once I was in the room we settled on 160,000 for 25 min. Too short for me, but I was going for two tonight. She had me stand up and undressed me while on her knees. She squealed with delight when she pulled my hard cock out. She left the room for a minute to get ready and when she came back we started making out on the mat. I took off her top and her panties, but I had her keep her socks and her skirt on. I ate her pussy and then she put on a condom for CBJ. She got out a few different boxes and made sure I noticed that she was using the extra-large ones. She gave me a great CBJ with lots of eye contact, and then I slid into her snug little pussy. Mostly we did mish, but at one point I stood up and bounced her up and down on my cock... She thought this was very funny. Eventually the time ran out and she said something about finishing. So I fucked her hard and blew my load. When she was cleaning me up, she kept saying "great!" with a big smile and a little nod. She started putting on a cute little girlfriend act and told me she would be crying when I flew back the next day (tracing an invisible tear down her cheek with her finger).

All in all, a fun time with a hot little idol girl who knows how to please a man.

After that I scoped out the whole district and waited for my stamina to come back. The great thing about Tobita is there are so many hotties, you can get some wood just by walking the strips. After the blood was rushing again, I was having a hard time deciding and it was starting to get late.

Eventually I settled on a cute girl with nice big titties. She was happy to see me, but was not nearly as stylish as the first one. At first I thought I may have made an error of judgment based on her cleavage, but she turned out to have a tight, firm body, although quite curvy. She was 25-29, straight black hair, cute face, dark skin, but just a plane tight dress and white thong.

After we settled on 160,000 for 25 min, she got straight down to business. I had to ask her to keep her thong on for a bit. (I prefer to do the undressing.) We made out for a bit and then she pointed to a western style sofa seat in the room and she told me to sit on that. She sat on my lap and kissed me for a minute before pulling out my cock and getting down on her knees for some great BBBJ. The whole session she kept saying, "I like big sex."

I then laid her on her back and ate her pussy for a few minutes. I was so horny at this point, I wasn't thinking very straight and I just slid myself into her tight little kitty for BBFS. She got very excited about this and we had a great fuck. When the timer ran out, I asked her where she wanted me to come and she said, "In mouth." I stood up and she dutifully drained my load on her knees.

She didn't put on as much of an act as the first girl, but then the service was a bit better -- well each was great in its own way.

Now a question for the crew:

I've heard there is another large red-light district in Osaka called Matsushima Shinchi in Nishi ward. Does anyone know this place? I will be moving to Osaka in a few months, so I would appreciate some info about it.

About a month and a half ago I was in Osaka for business and used this form to find Tobita. I was very happy with my encounters there. I am an Italian-Canadian, with no Japanese and I had a great time with the girls in this district.

I went down there twice, around 9-10ish. Both times the place was hopping and I got "dozo" from about 50% of the shops (more in the crappy parts of the district, less in the better parts). There were also some shops where the mama-san wanted me to come but the girl was apprehensive, and some shops where the girl was excited to see me but the mama-san did not invite me. I had good luck by just waiting till I saw a girl who was very happy to see me, and then choosing her. (I also noticed one interesting thing about the reaction of some of the girls. Sometimes they had a very startled look, almost like a mixture of fear and excitement. I did not know how to interpret this at first, because when I was in Tokyo, some of the free-be girls I picked up also had this very startled look. So in Tokyo I took that as a good sign during street pick up. Anyway, eventually I decided that in Tobita it is not such a good thing as on the streets of Tokyo.)

On my last night in town, I wanted to go for a double header, because the Tobita girls can be quite pretty, and I feel like a kid in a candy shop when I walk around there. My first choice was a 20ish hottie. She had on a short little skirt, knee-high socks and long hair, lightened to a soft brown and in the loose curls so many j-girls like. She was very hot, 8.5-9 for face and beautiful little body. Smooth light skin, pirky little tits, big wide eyes, great hair and make-up like an idol girl.

Once I was in the room we settled on 160,000 for 25 min. Too short for me, but I was going for two tonight. She had me stand up and undressed me while on her knees. She squealed with delight when she pulled my hard cock out. She left the room for a minute to get ready and when she came back we started making out on the mat. I took off her top and her panties, but I had her keep her socks and her skirt on. I ate her pussy and then she put on a condom for CBJ. She got out a few different boxes and made sure I noticed that she was using the extra-large ones. She gave me a great CBJ with lots of eye contact, and then I slid into her snug little pussy. Mostly we did mish, but at one point I stood up and bounced her up and down on my cock... She thought this was very funny. Eventually the time ran out and she said something about finishing. So I fucked her hard and blew my load. When she was cleaning me up, she kept saying "great!" with a big smile and a little nod. She started putting on a cute little girlfriend act and told me she would be crying when I flew back the next day (tracing an invisible tear down her cheek with her finger).

All in all, a fun time with a hot little idol girl who knows how to please a man.

After that I scoped out the whole district and waited for my stamina to come back. The great thing about Tobita is there are so many hotties, you can get some wood just by walking the strips. After the blood was rushing again, I was having a hard time deciding and it was starting to get late.

Eventually I settled on a cute girl with nice big titties. She was happy to see me, but was not nearly as stylish as the first one. At first I thought I may have made an error of judgment based on her cleavage, but she turned out to have a tight, firm body, although quite curvy. She was 25-29, straight black hair, cute face, dark skin, but just a plane tight dress and white thong.

After we settled on 160,000 for 25 min, she got straight down to business. I had to ask her to keep her thong on for a bit. (I prefer to do the undressing.) We made out for a bit and then she pointed to a western style sofa seat in the room and she told me to sit on that. She sat on my lap and kissed me for a minute before pulling out my cock and getting down on her knees for some great BBBJ. The whole session she kept saying, "I like big sex."

I then laid her on her back and ate her pussy for a few minutes. I was so horny at this point, I wasn't thinking very straight and I just slid myself into her tight little kitty for BBFS. She got very excited about this and we had a great fuck. When the timer ran out, I asked her where she wanted me to come and she said, "In mouth." I stood up and she dutifully drained my load on her knees.

She didn't put on as much of an act as the first girl, but then the service was a bit better -- well each was great in its own way.

Now a question for the crew:

I've heard there is another large red-light district in Osaka called Matsushima Shinchi in Nishi ward. Does anyone know this place? I will be moving to Osaka in a few months, so I would appreciate some info about it.

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[QUOTE=Xslikx]After we settled on 160,000 for 25 min, she got straight down to business.[/QUOTE]I think you mean 16,000 yen there, man. Unless the rates have gone way up. ;)

Interesting that you had a FS experience in Tobita. Also, that they undressed you. I guess it's different for everyone depending on the girl.

[QUOTE=Hunter20] On a Saturday morning I started my tour in Umeda. From JR Osaka Stn. I followed the directions for Hanshin Railway Umeda Stn. and continued my way eastward through the Whity underground shopping mall to exit M14. The red light district is located to the south-east of this exit.

My first try was Freajia, a hoteheru with married women (hitoduma) and very low prices. See its homepage [url]http://www.osaka-093.com/fa/pc/main/main.html[/url] for directions and rates and [url]http://kansai.bigdesire.co.jp/shop.php?shop=163[/url] for a discount coupon. The coupon gives you a 60 min course for as less as 7,900 Yen; even inclusive the hotel room charge. [/blue][/size][/QUOTE]

I found Hunter's report intriguing and so I went in search of Frejia. His assistance getting there was just right. His instructions along with the map from Frejia's website led me there very well. The one thing I would suggest is tricky for those less familiar with Osaka is figuring out the labyrinthine underground malls. Pay careful attention to the fact that the exit is M14 - if you look on the maps displayed every once in a while once you are in Whity (yes, I know it is a very funny name) just look for the one marked M. It isn't very big, so once you find it, the exit is nearby. Take the south stairway, go two blocks, turn right, then take the third left. The Diamond Building is on your left. Not well marked, but I asked a tout and he knew right away. Another thing to note: Frejia is on the 4th floor, but the name of the shop is not posted outside (you see it once you are inside if you can read Katakana). Once you exit the elevator, go left to the end of the hall. It is the last door on your left. Other guys working in the building didn't even know it by its name, so it took me some time to figure out which shop it was.

I asked whethe gaijin were ok, and got the same response Hunter described. After ascertaining that I could get by in Japanese (the standard is not high, just have to have enough so you can understand basic instructons and chat a little with the girl), the man consulted with a girl or two behind the curtain, and then when returning, showed me a photo of a girl and asked whether that one was ok... she looked pretty good in the photo, so I said sure.

I took the 60 minute course, which was offered at 8900 - I had no coupon, and perhaps the difference reflected time of day (I was there in the evening). Still a good price.

Kyo was very nice, a bit overweight and has bad teeth, but otherwise attractive (and I do not generally go for heavier women), and very friendly and fun. And indeed, she is a married woman (told me she has a bunch of kids), and works only weekends. She stripped down and straddled my lap in reverse position grinding up against me to get me hot, and then turned around to give me a great BBBJ while waiting for the tub to fill; then when I started in on her nipples and stimulating her by hand, she got so involved, we didn't get to the bath before the first round.

Then the bath, and with only a hint, I was given a second BJ in the tub. Nice.

This one was a real GFE. Lot's of lying together and hugging afterward, small chat... she really seemed to enjoy it, and then gave me a card when we were fininshed so I could call the shop to request her again. Highly recommended to those who enjoy this type of girl and understand the limits.

By the way, the neighborhood around there is a very active red light area. There might well be other places that will take gaijin. I was propositioned by a SW as I exited the underground, so I suspect there are other possibilities there.

Actually I didn't mean to say it was interesting to have a FS experience in Tobita. Tobita is always FS. What I meant to write was that it was interesting your girl didn't absolutely demand you wear a condom.

In my experience there a condom (except the occasional BBBJ for warmup) is definitely the norm.

Following dissapointing sexually and spiritually purifying stay in Kyoto, I decided to take the 30 minute train journey to Osaka. Thanks to the very specific directions given by Romannose and confirmed by Sukebe, I went like an arrow from the Osaka JR station to the Tennoji station on the Matsuido line ( about 8 stations away). Found the hospital building with Apollo nad Lucias easily. Then we should turn left and keep going downhill througha residential area till you come to a street shop complex. Tobita is behind this. I got lost here and got siked by the sudden apearence of residetial area. Went around in circles for sometime, before picking up courage and asking a man for direction. He pointed me in the right direction. But was not good enough to get me into the place. So I had asked direction again. THis time of an elderly woman. She also pointed out the same direction. I asked them in proper English ( as I dont even speak rudimentary phrases of Japanese). These people didnt understand English, but understood Tobita, when I said that word and immediately pointed me in the right direction. THe third time I asked a young women ( didnt look like she was in th eprofession an dlike a resident of the residtialfamily area), she also pointed me in the right direction. Every body there knows Tobita, nobody was ashamed or embarrased when I asked direction. The neighbour hood residents know and looks like appreciate that I was going there! I found Tobita quite by accident in the end, as I followed a young girl riding a bike to what looked like a tailor shop, but which later turned out to be one of the TOBITA shops!

I looked at all the probably 150 shops in the Tobita area. Tobita is an area where there are shops where the mamasan and the girl offering her services sit on a cushion by the opening into the shop. They present the girls nicely with a flash light dazzling her up a bit and girls alluring themselves in various make up get ups. Very similar in concept to Amsterdam and sme other Eurpoean capitals where women sit inide the windows offering a good view of ther assets.

Clearly the shops nearer the shopping street and the residential area have better women than the one farther, which are essentially really old hags. I dont know who goes to them. They all ask the same price of 11000 for 20 mins. After circling around, I settled on a young one and bargained a 30 min service for 12000, which was granted. Except for about 10 odd shops every else I had an acknowledgement from either the girl or her mamasan or both, wit more than 50% actively propoting themselves. SO it is fair to say, I was ina buyers market and therefore chose well, a young, fresh looking and a small looking girl with just a hint of curves. This was as opposed to big titties, which I suspect are a result of silicone pads.

The girl I was destined to mate was Miki. ABout 25, slight in body, great servcie. Very gentle. Did mish, doggy and anal. CBJ, my licking her pussy, she orgasming ( fake or real I dont know, but she was all wet, which made my action that much more pleasurable). All done in 30 minuts without appearing rushed. Was indeed the crowning glory of a weeklong shag fest in Japan.

On the way back, had a nice italian pasta dinner at the restaurant on the firt floor of the hospital building containing Apollo and Lucias. That concluded a great fortnight in Japan for me with good action covering all the highlights of Japanese sex life from the best calls ervcies of CLub Boo and AM in Tokyo, the silken touch of the Yoshiwara's soaplands, the suck restaurants of Kyoto and then the famed Tobita of Osaka!

Roadlover:

Did you negotiate your price in Tobita with the Mamasan in the front or with the girl once you were in the room?

Thanks,

X

That's a good question, and I'd love to hear the answer.

I have been asked to confirm a price in both ways: Sometimes the mama sorts it out with you when you are in the [i]genkan[/i] before you go up, sometimes the girl lets you sit there at the table and look at the little laminated paper and you tell her in the room. It's usually the first thing to be sorted, and the cash is expected rather quickly and up front.

But never have I negotiated there.

Honestly I wouldn't have the compunction to talk down the price with either the girl or the mama, for my own reasons, but that's just me.

Tobita 30 min. service runs to my knowledge at 22,000, so Roadlover got a whopping discount if he's remembering correctly. Like almost 50%.

Actually now that I think of it once a girl (chatty Yuka, who I mentioned in another post) gave me a 2,000 yen discount when I said I'd have to break a 5,000 bill. I wasn't negotiating, she was just very laid-back about it. "Ni-man de ii yo."

I've never been disappointed there, but I'd still like to know what is on offer for the 40-minute or 1-hour course (around 40,000.)

FYI usual rates in Tobita:

15min 11000yen

20min 16000yen

30min 21000yen

40min 31000yen

60 min 41000yen

In some cases the 60 course is only availabel before 5 pm.

As I said before, anyone with inside info on whether the 40 or 60 min. is substantially differen from the others (meaning, in any way worth the jack up in price) I would love to hear.

[QUOTE=Xslikx]Roadlover:

Did you negotiate your price in Tobita with the Mamasan in the front or with the girl once you were in the room?

Thanks,

X[/QUOTE]
Frankly, I didnt think I was negotiating! I did this with the mamasan in front of the girl and the mamasan consulted with the girl before agreeing with me. I just thought 20 mins was just too short and wanted an hour's run. I was happy to pay proportionately higher. But was pleasently surprised when she gave me this price. I obviously took wiht glee and struggled to look pained! Not speaking any Japanese also helped I guess. I was there at around 6. 30. While some cars were cruising around, the area didnt look as busy as it might otherwise get.

[QUOTE=Road Lover]Frankly, I didnt think I was negotiating! I did this with the mamasan in front of the girl and the mamasan consulted with the girl before agreeing with me. I just thought 20 mins was just too short and wanted an hour's run. I was happy to pay proportionately higher. But was pleasently surprised when she gave me this price. I obviously took wiht glee and struggled to look pained! Not speaking any Japanese also helped I guess. I was there at around 6. 30. While some cars were cruising around, the area didnt look as busy as it might otherwise get.[/QUOTE]

My guess is that he Road Lover was there at a time they weren't too busy, and he is good looking enough that the girl felt like it would be less of a chore and granted the extra 15minutes.

[QUOTE=Lion]My guess is that he Road Lover was there at a time they weren't too busy, and he is good looking enough that the girl felt like it would be less of a chore and granted the extra 15minutes.[/QUOTE]Ha!

Well you could be right I suppose. Now I wonder if it's my aftershave.

I think your phrase "less of a chore" (and not "her pleasure") is right on the money. One of the reasons I don't mind (so much) paying full price. I want the girl to feel as good as possible about the experience. I don't really care if this is naive.

My report on Tobita

Well, it's been a long time since I've done any mongering. But I found myself with some spare time today, and thanks to the reports of the noble ISG Soldiers, I decided to give Tobita a try.

I live in Kyoto, which is pretty dry in itself, but I also have the disadvantage of being black. And tall. And, somewhat intimidating (even some westerners find me intimidating. Though I don't try to be). So whatever nil chance there is in Kyoto for foreign mongers, my chances have crossed into negative numbers. But reading the reports here, it seemed as if people were getting 50-70% success ratios, and I figured that wasn't too bad. If I could get even half that, I'd be happy. So with the directions provided by, I set off for Tobita. I should also note here that I can speak fluent Japanese, although this doesn't really seem to help me that much, as most touts have made up their minds about me before I can even open my mouth.

I would like to confirm that the directions by the way are SPOT ON. It was really easy to find. The name of the subway line is Yotsubashi. You can catch it from the Nishi Umeda station.

As many others have described it, it's a neighborhood with houses that sit next to each other, where the mamasan and one of the girls sits in the entrance and tries to catch the attention of male passer-by's. It really does seem like a scene removed from time or something. It's somewhat expansive, with several cross streets and what not. I arrived at about 4:30PM on a Sunday. I was hoping that this would be late enough to have a good number of shops open, but still early enough to beat the crowd. My timing seemed pretty good. About 85-90% of the shops were open, and there weren't too many guys milling about.

However, after 15 minutes of walking around the district, my success ratio was a whopping 0. I tried looking mamasans and girls in the eye, smiling, walking slowly, nothing. I turned down side streets, passing by more shops. Nothing. There was a wide variety of girls. Young girls, mature women, OLD women (at least 50 years old); short, tall, thin, plump, big breasted, etc. Most were wearing nightgown type clothes, but some were wearing maid outfits, schoolgirl uniforms, and various other dresses. I found quite a few girls that struck my fancy. But none of the mamasans were acknowledging my existance.

I continued turning down one street after another, in many cases passing a particular shop 2, 3, even 4 times. The girls and mamasan began to notice that I was walking around in circles. I decided if they weren't going to come to me, then I'd come to them. I started trying to approach the mamasan of girls I liked. Before I could even get a word out of my mouth, the mamasan was shaking her head, giving me the armbar cross-X "No", or flat out saying "akan" (Kansai for "no good"). I tried to save face by asking if they knew how I could get back to the subway (I was also hoping they'd notice my Japanese abilities and change their minds). Quite a few mamasan weren't even willing to help out with that. I continued to walk around, and now I was starting to hear the mamasan and girls talk about me as I walked past. "You hear that? He's trying to pretend like he's looking for the subway! " One mamasan says. One working girl simply says "I don't want him as a customer. No way! "

If you ever want to have your ego completely broken down, try mongering in Japan for awhile, especially if you're not of Asian descent. I'm not any kind of a heartthrob or anything like that, but I'd like to think I'm somewhat halfway decent looking. I have a nice build, I'm in my 20's, healthy, clean cut, and not harsh on the eyes. I was dressed neatly too. Polo shirt and slacks. So it was interesting to be walking along, and have a middle-aged, overweight, balding, sweaty Japanese guy, or an old, crusty Japanese dude with several teeth missing walking ahead of me, and to have the mamasan try to solicit him, and then ignore my existance as I trailed behind. And people wonder why Japan is called "The Land of Tears. "

I had pretty much given up. None of the places I wanted to go would have me. None of the places I didn't want to go would have me either. I wanted to leave, but I found that I'd randomly crossed so many side streets, that I really was lost. I tried seriously asking the mamasan for directions again, and again they were giving me "No! " signals before I ever opened my mouth. I found the outer rim of the district, and decided to just walk along here, hoping I'd run into the street I came in on. However, as I was walking along, I heard a "Doozo! " from a mamasan. I looked around. There were no Japanese guys in the area. Could she have been talking to me? I looked at the mamasan, and she repeated it. I was actually being invited in! I took a look at the girl. Not attractive at all. Stocky build. She could have been a pro-wrestler. And the layers of makeup could only partially hide the ugly. And she was getting up there in the years too.

But you know what? Maybe it was because my ego had already been broken down, maybe I was just happy to have finally been invited, maybe I had just set my heart on doing some mongering today in Tobita. That I accepted. Beggars can't be choosers. And while this saying usually works the other way around. That's just how Japan is.

I went with the woman upstairs to a tatami room with a futon on the floor. The mamasan came up with water and snacks, and talked about the price. I agreed on 11, 000 yen for 15 minutes. The mamasan left and I was left with the woman, who introduced herself as Yuka. We had some small talk, then she left to "prepare". I moved to sit on the futon, but kept my clothes on. Yuka came back and first asked if I wanted to dim the lights. I thought that would be a good idea. She instructed me to take off my clothes. I did so, as she did the same. She got started with some DFK, with some ear-nibbling and nipple kissing (which I am a sucker for). She eventually moved down for a nice BBBJ. After a few minutes of that, she asked "69? " I didn't particularly want to, but I said yes. Anything to get the process moving along, and get the most out of my yen. Yuka swings around, and let me tell you, I got hit with, undoubtedly, the hairyest snatch I have ever seen in my ENTIRE LIFE. I had to go on an Indiana Jones expedition before even getting to the pussy. Oh well, what does not kill us, makes us stronger. I did try to minimize how much tongue I actually used though. I ate a girl out in a pink salon once and came back with a throat infection.

After a few minutes of 69, Yuka asks if I want to go ahead and put it in, to which I agree. She asks if it's okay to use a condom. I don't know what would have happened if I'd said I didn't want to. But honestly, if she hadn't asked, I would have insisted on it. Yuka puts on the condom, and she gets on top. She has a tight pussy at least. We get a good session in, and I just choose to finish with her on top rather than change positions. At first, Yuka made the "not really, but I'm gonna moan to make the guy feel like he's doing good" sounds during the foreplay, but after insertion she really did seem to enjoy it. She cleaned me up, and noted how much bigger I was than Japanese guys. The bruised ego starts to feel slightly better.

Yuka leaves to get cleaned up, and I put my clothes back on. I took the hand towel I'd gotten when I first came and used it to wipe my tongue down. I also noticed a basket with assorted candies, and gum. I took two sticks of gum. I only took one at first, but I dunno, something in the back of my head said "take two". Yuka comes back and we have a bit more small talk. She asks if I'd ever been to Tobita before, and I told her that this was my first time. I told her that I lived in Kyoto, and it was hard/impossible to get any service there. I also mentioned that I'd been turned down quite a bit here in Tobita (tastefully leaving out the part where she was my last resort). Yuka seemed bothered by this, and said that people, especially Japanese people, can be judgemental about a person based solely on their appearance. She seemed disappointed that this attitude was in Tobita as well. She also said that she was also subject to the same kind of discrimination just because of how she looked. Yuka was a kindred spirit. She earned my respect here. She also said that it was too bad that the industry was so harsh towards foreigners, as we were MUCH better than Japanese guys (better manners, better sex! ), including myself.

Our time ran out, and Yuka and the mamasan saw me off and asked me to come back again. I'd been worried about the time. 15 minutes didn't seem like much, but honestly, it had been more than enough here. Overall, great GFE, great FS. Wish the girl had been a lot more attractive. But I was glad to have given her my money, if for no other reason than for having accepted me. Who knows. Maybe Yuka or the mamasan will talk about it and change some other people's minds? Hopeful pipe-dream thinking, I know.

Anyway, having done what I set out to do, I was all ready to leave Tobita. But I was still lost! I wondered around again, still looking for the exit. As I walked, a Japanese friend called me on my cell phone. I answered and talked in Japanese as I walked. Quite a few mamasan seemed to notice me speaking fluent Japanese. I finished my phone call and doubled back. The mamasan still didn't call out to me, but they didn't seem as put off by my existance as before. Maybe, it could just all be in my head.

I was still lost, when I passed by a place I'd passed by on my original run. The girl was older. In her late 30's maybe, and wearing a smart pink suit. I like older women, and I'd thought that she was pretty enough, but hadn't bothered asking at this shop. As I passed by this time, the mamasan looked at me and actually smiled. I kept walking. But I was still lost. I checked my wallet. I just happened to have 11, 000 yen left. I decided to ask the mamasan for directions at least, and then see what happened. The mamasan was very helpful, told me exactly how to get back to the street I'd come in on. She then noted how good my Japanese was. I told her I'd been living and working in Japan for awhile. She asked how I'd come to Tobita. I told her a Japanese friend had recommended the place, and I'd been walking around but hadn't had any luck getting into any shops. She then offered her shop to me. Yes! Score! I confirmed that it was okay, then stepped into the entrance. The mamasan said "We have a younger girl! " and called for a girl named Wakana. I actually kind of wanted the mature lady already sitting there. But eh, again, beggars can't be choosers and what not. Wakana comes out, and indeed she's younger. Definitely in her 20's. A bit chubby. But, big tits! I haven't had big tits on a Japanese girl since. Ever, maybe. Allright, I'll take it.

Wakana is obviously nervous as she leads me upstairs. The mamasan comes up, and I confirm that the price is 11, 000 yen. At this shop though, that'll get me 20 minutes. She offers 30 minutes for 16, 000 yen, but I don't even have that on me. Wakana tries to make small talk, but is still very nervous. She leaves to freshen up. While she's gone, I wonder how or even if junior is going to rise to the occasion again. It hasn't even been half an hour. I decide that, ultimately, that'll be Wakana's problem. She comes back, and we both get undressed and get on the futon. She skips any kissing, and goes straight for a BBBJ. Well, any fears about junior putting in an encore were dashed as he heroically rose to the occasion. After a few minutes, she put the condom on and got on top.

Wakana wasn't quite as tight as Yuka, and not quite as active on top. I sort of felt the erection starting to go away, so I told her to switch to missionary. However, in the transitional period I lost the erection! I don't know about you guys, but I HATE losing erections in front of any girl, but especially working girls. I mean, its their job, and losing an erection is almost like saying "you suck at what you do. " In ordinary situations, I usually go for a little oral. Would I be eating out my second working girl within an hour? I suddenly remembered the second stick of gum I'd taken from Yuka's shop. Ah, what the heck. I dived right in, and was able to get junior back up to battle status in no time. Whereas I said Yuka "seemed" to enjoy it, I KNOW Wakana enjoyed it. It was written all over her face. She kept trying to restrain herself from saying "I'm coming! " (in Japanese, "iku", so she kept saying "ikk-"). I also seemed to be hitting areas she previously didn't know existed. This got her more into it, and soon her nervousness was gone and it was a real GFE.

After awhile, I realized I wasn't going to get another orgasm out, so I just stopped at a good point. Wakana needed a minute or two to recover, before she got up and started the clean up. She told me that she really enjoyed it, and again that I measured up much bigger compared to all the Japanese clients.

Mending of broken, shattered ego: COMPLETE.

Wakana and I talked for a bit, and eventually the chime rang signaling the end of the time. Again, 20 minutes doesn't seem like much at first, but I was surprised at how long it actually lasted. Wakana thanked me and asked that I come back again, making sure to tell me the days she worked (everyday except Monday). The mamasan was even friendly as I left, reminding me of the way to the subway once more.

So all in all, I got two good GFE FS, but it was sort of bittersweet as the girls weren't ones I would have ordinarily picked. It was really frustrating not being able to choose the girls I actually wanted, and then kind of infuriating to be flat out refused, and have the mamasans and girls talk about me behind my back. I suppose if you are of Asian descent, or Caucasian and not sufficiently threatening, your options will increase. If you've got your heart set on mongering in Osaka, Tobita's probably the right choice. However, I think you actually have better chances with non-working girls and nampa. Just have a good technique, go to the right places, and you can probably pick up better looking girls and spend only a fraction of the cost. But that's a debate for another day I suppose.

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Went in early in the week, about mid-morning.

Decided to shop around, but there were a surprising number of other guys about for what I thought would be a dead time of day. I guess it was shortly after payday for a lot of people.

The girl I marked on round one was taken by the time I got back to her. Decided on a girl with long black hair in a white evening dress with a sweet smile. I got asked in by almost every mama I saw—almost, not all. About four or five just gave me the cold shoulder. (Great post, btw, AzureKnight.)

She took me up to the room, and we sorted out the price. This time the room was well lighted. Usually the rooms there are dark and the lights get turned down. Today the sunlight was streaming in thru very thin curtains. I thought it was gonna be like screwing in a car park, it was so bright.

I asked whether longer time meant anything different. She said the girl would be happier and happier the more time you paid for. I guess at least it keeps her from fucking four blokes in an hour—one has gotta be easier. And about the same money. While I was trying to work it out in me head I just said "Sanjyuppun. " She immediately said "arigato. "

Then she asked if didn’t I want 40 minutes or more. I said just the 30 today. Honestly I didn’t have enough for more.

I asked what she liked or was okay with. Anal she was off. When mentioned 69 she was fine with it but surprised and then wiped herself off with a handful of wetcloths before we started in and kept saying "Gomen gomen. " I said no worries.

We got down to it. Beautiful, beautiful. Just great stuff. Not much on top, but she was a honey. She didn’t let me kiss her face, which was a first for me in Tobita. She covered her eyes with her arm, and kept them mostly closed throughout. She didn’t use any lotion.

After we finished, we started to talk. She told me where she was from originally and that she really needed money so was working here.

Then I noticed bruises on both her legs and one arm. I also noticed scars on both her arms and her side. She explained the bruises by saying she was drunk and fell down, and didn’t remember. She said she had been out with friends. I thought she must have right fell down a flight of stairs to get that kind of bruises, but didn’t say it. She talked about her hobbies and told me which places she likes to go in Osaka. She told me her real name but said it was a secret, and not to say the name out loud in front of the mama.

I don’t know if she got her bruises the way she said—just an accident. I didn’t ask about the scars—it’s none of my business anyway; I’m not her knight. I’m just another guy who fucked her. Had a funny feeling with her, though. She said she had been working there for only three days.

She was a honey, but then laughed too loud and too long at one of my jokes. I been here long enough to know what to do: Laugh with her. But saying "You don’t have to be so fake with me, " was—stupidly--on the tip of my tongue. I forgot, I suppose, where I was for a sec.

I ended up telling her my real name, too. She kept telling me to come back sometime. But they all say that. When I said "I don’t come here so often, " she just said, again, "Mata kite. " Wonder if I will.

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Azure Knight that was one of the best reports I have read in a long time. Very inspirational! More power to ya!

And you are right, someone in your situation is better off doing Nampa that fuzoku.

So many Japanese are what I would call "selective capitalists". I just find ways to take advantage of their ignorance and bias.

Both Crikey and Azure Night seem to have raised the bar for reports...

I do sympathize with the Blue Night via the fuzoku scene, but I know of a fair number of J-gals who are so into hip-hop that they won't even consider a white guy. Just a matter of going out there and getting yours...

I also might suggest trying some DH-those gals are more willing to take chances since no one is looking over their shoulder.

Big JP, an African-American, posted on the Tokyo board so many picts his became one of the legendary Nampa dudes of the Japan WSG.

As if we needed any more. Still I don't have experience with Juso or the DH scene so I am payinit forward hopin you guys will let me know about those places.

Second time this month for me. Wanted to find the girl from previous post again, but she was no where to be seen. Stopped once at another girl and the mama gave me the crossed-x-hands thing with an apologetic bow. Another time the girl who saw me was noticeably unnerved but the mama told her not to worry, that she could do a gaijin. Luckily for her perhaps she was not my type.

Just to mention it, so far in Tobita I've been with girls in high school uniforms, a kimono, an evening dress, and a race queen. This week the girl had on just red lingerie and a white cotton dress shirt buttoned with one button, and was wearing glasses. I guess to appeal to the fetish aspect.

She had nice-sized ski-sloped breasts for such a skinny girl, and they were real. Probably a Japanese D, but this looked big on her. She was also quite pretty but had that bouffant Osaka city girl hairstyle.

I think she was new. DIdn't ask, however. Her name was Kazuki. Good points: Great breasts, very pretty, nice fishnet thigh stockings, open to gaijin, tried to be friendly.

Bad points: Could tell she was just trying to be friendly. During CBJ she looked at me batting eyelashes and smiled. Again was refused on anal. But the kicker: "Don't touch my nipples," she said.

Without thinking I just asked "Eh?"

"They're ticklish," she said. Kusugutai.

She did tell me to knead them. "Monde kudasai," she said. So I did. But that was as far as she allowed, which of course made me want to get on those nipples even more. DIdn't though. Oh well.

Doggie style, missionary, then woman on top. When I came she just sat on me for 10 or 20 seconds, which was different. I think she likes to see guys come. Then again I have no idea.

She left promptly after wipe up and stayed gone what I thought was inordinately long. 20 minute session, and bell rang while she was out. When she came back it was like "otsukaresama mata kite" (well done, come again).

Not the best as far as enthusiasm goes, but really hot. Said she was 21. I keep expecting to see these girls walking around in the city, but its a big place, and many are probably from out of town.

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Matsushima is located near the intersection of Minato-dori and Honden, west side of the avenue, about 1 km north of the dome--you recognize it by the neon half-arches marking it off. 60-80 girls sitting in doorways with their mammasan, many 7s, 8s, and 9s. 50% strikeout ratio for foreigners. Had a solid GFE, one near GFE, and one regular service: 20 min. = 10,000 yen. Plenty of action by 4pm. Don`t ask for further directions, because I can`t help you out any further. Recommend Super City Hotel for great free spa service: [url]www.superhotel.co.jp[/url] 20 min walk to district.

because we just can't get enough of tobita. this post will probably not bring any new information. but i just like re-living the experience. almost as fun as the real thing. okay, that's a complete lie, but still, i know i like to write them and read the reports of others, so hey.

free time today and frustrations at home led to the mongering urge. i live in kyoto, and there are actually two pink salons that i can go to. the primary touts at these two places have seen me around for the past few years, and walking around with japanese people speaking japanese, so they've accepted that i'm not just some random tourist. one guy is young. late 20's. his shop is just one of those open bj bars. bbbj, but no chance for fs. another guy is in his late 30's-early 40's, and his place actually has the booths. i could maybe finagle fs depending on the girl, but the bj would pretty much be cfj no debate. but if those two specific guys weren't there, i wouldn't be able to get in at all. i was thinking about this, when i remembered good 'ol tobita. i could hop on the subway after work and be there in 15 minutes. my last experience was kind of average/disappointing, but if i could find a place with a decent girl, it was fs and bbbj. so i started to factor tobita in with my considerations.

and this is what i love about mongering in japan. any other country, you find a girl you want, tell her what you want, pay her, and that's pretty much the end of the story. not japan. japan makes things much more interesting. i had the following options before me.

1. go to tobita, where i might not be accepted, or if i was, the girl could be average/hideous.

2. go to pink salon 1, bbbjcim, girl will probably be hideous, but oh well, they keep the lights low and just don't look down. oh, but that's only if my tout friend is there.

3. go to pink salon 2, cfj, maybe fs, depends on the girl, who will probably be hideous, and of course, this depends on my other tout friend being there.

4. despite every intention and a pocket full of yen, strike out everywhere, go home frustrated.

see? adventure! i finally decided to give tobita another shot. i promised myself i wouldn't just go in the first place that accepted me, and i wouldn't pick a hideous girl just because they accepted me. also, no walking up the same streets over and over again. if i strike out, just call it a bust and try the pink salons back home.

i arrived at tobita a little before 7. a handful of shops were closed, most were open. only moderate foot traffic, which was good for me. i immediately set out, walking slowly, trying to keep a smile on my face, slight but not intimidating eye contact. i also tried hitting the side streets, hoping i could end up in one of the more isolated areas where perhaps the mamasan couldn't afford to be picky. a few of the girls seemed to be giving me looks, but the mamasan looked as if they wouldn't hesitate to kill me on the spot given the opportunity to do so. i was going 0-fer, just like the last time, when i turned down a side street leading to the covered arcade, and a mamasan called out to me. i stopped and looked in. the girl was a little below average. not hideous, but nothing i'the choose if i had a choice. okay, gotta stay strong, stay the path. i asked the mamasan if i could walk around some more, to which she smiled and said sure, and please come back. well, at least not all of them are evil little gremlin women.

i doubled back, made a few more random turns, and must have ended up on a main street or something, because the majority of the shops were open, and all of the girls were smoking hot. young, shapely, beautiful women, all looked as if they'the been snatched right out of a magazine page. nothing even remotely below an 8. again, some of the girls gave me looks, but the mamasan weren't interested. i passed through smoking hot blvd without one "doozo". you know what's amazing? if i were japanese, or at least an asian that could pass for japanese, i could walk down this street and have my pick of, what, 10-12 absolutely gorgeous girls to have sex with. all i'the have to do is have 11, 000 yen in my pocket, and walk up to the mamasan's door. if i were japanese. incredible.

i passed through smoking hot blvd with not one invitation, but i didn't want to give up just yet. the girls were just too amazing. i remembered what happened the last time in tobita. i'the gotten a call from a friend, spoke in japanese, and then some of the mamasan's didn't seem as put off by me. well, if it had worked before, why not give it a try now? i went down a bit to one of the quiet streets, pulled out my cell phone, and pretended to take a call from my company's boss. i walked back up smoking hot blvd as i "talked", walking at a clip fast enough to look busy, but not too fast as to blow right by. i didn't bother looking at any of the girls. i finished my "conversation" at the end of the alley, and then pretending that, being engrossed in my call i'the turned down the wrong street, doubled back. my ploy seemed to have worked somewhat. though i wasn't getting any doozo's, the mamasan weren't blatantly ignoring me now either.

(author's note. if you too would like to try the cell phone trick, if you have a phone that lights up as you talk, be sure to at least activate the lights. otherwise, it might be obvious that you're faking it.)

about midway down smoking hot blvd, i heard a soft "doozo" thrown my way. my plan had worked. i was being invited in! but wait, what about the girl? i looked inside. absolutely stunning. pretty face, great set of tits, great body. jackpot! i almost cried tears of joy on the spot, but decided to check those for later. the mamasan and girl welcomed me in, both noting how good my japanese was.

i went upstairs with the girl, who later introduced herself as tomo. right off the bat, tomo got down to the pricing. at this place, it was 11, 000 for 15 minutes, 16, 000 for 25. i'm usually el-cheapo, but tomo was really hot, and i wanted to take my time and enjoy with her, so i opted for the 25. i thanked her for accepting me, and she said that it wasn't unusual to have a lot of foreigners pass through here. she began naming off some of her past customers. american, european, singapore, malaysia, thailand, indonesia, etc. it was quite an impressive list. i told her a little about my troubles in tobita, to which she said "that's too bad. i love foreign guys! " she said she usually tries to give them a look and a smile, because the mamasan doesn't actively call out to them, hopefully they'll make eye contact with her and come to her.

after some more small talk, tomo went to the bathroom, came back, and quickly undressed, instructing me to do the same. tomo was even better out of her clothes than i'the hoped. she wasn't too thin, as many japanese girls are, but she wasn't fat at all. she had a nice, healthy body, complete with curves, t&a, and a gorgeous face. a definite 9. i felt like a lucky lotto winner.

we move to the futon and get started. tomo does some nipple licking, followed by a bbbj, and with proper attention to the balls as well. she was really good, occasionally batting her eyes up at me as she worked me over. she started to reach for the condom, but i stopped her and asked if it would be allright to eat her out. tomo is surprised. "yeah! you'll eat me out? " she wastes no time in getting on her back. i slide down and help myself to her nice pussy. tomo loves every minute of it, and it doesn't take long before she comes, her nice body shaking in my mouth. i kiss my way back up to her breasts, and tomo grabs my head and pulls me towards her for some dfk. she grabs the condom and puts it on me. "i want your cock now. no i need it now! " she says. this girl is great.

we get started in missionary, and apparently i'm hitting all the right spots. tomo is really enjoying herself. she comes about 2-3 times in missionary. she's one of those girls who says "dame! iku! " ("dame" means "no" or "not good" in japanese. it can be a little off-putting at first), i haven't had one of those in awhile. but more than that. tomo is a screamer. i don't mean a few loud moans, i mean full force "oh my god i'm finally a woman! " screaming. there is no way the entire house didn't hear her. there is no way her voice didn't carry out to the street. and i wouldn't be surprised if i few of you heard her from your homes. it was that intense. i am completely serious, there's no way she wasn't heard on the street at least.

it would be a waste to have a girl with the energy of tomo just lay there in missionary, so i ask her to get on top. as i expected, she was awesome, squatting on top of me and working me hard. after awhile i took over the work, and tomo came a few more times. at one point, tomo stops moving, and i ask her if she's okay. "no. i'm not okay. " is all she can say, before straightening herself and riding me hard again.

tomo asks me to do doggy, and we change up. tomo comes almost instantly in doggy, with a second orgasm not too far behind. i love doggy, and seeing tomo's nice rounded ass bounce against my stomach was wonderful, but i feared that time might be running out, and i wanted to enjoy more of her from the front, so i instructed her to get back in missionary. i hit her with some of my specialty moves which really knocked her out. it was obvious that tomo was enjoying herself. aside from the screaming, she was biting her lip, scratching the floor, and her eyes were rolling back in her head. maybe it's just me, but there's nothing more i love than knowing that the girl is really enjoying it too. so i was loving seeing tomo writhe in pleasure, knowing that it wasn't an act for my benefit.

time is almost certainly running out, and i'm reaching my limits, so i ask tomo if i can come. she grabs me by the back of the head, pulls my face close to hers, and says "oh yeah, come. blow a huge load. " this girl is awesome. i'm more than happy to comply. i stay inside of her for an extra few minutes with some gentle rhythmic movement. tomo is still responding, arching her back to allow me further penetration. "oh my god, i can't stop! " she says.

i finally withdraw, and tomo is laying dazed on the floor. once again, i ask if she's okay. "i completely forgot that i was working. " tomo confesses. she gives me a dfk before taking off the condom and helping to clean me up. tomo notes my size again (having done so at the very beginning) and saying how great it was. japanese guys are apparently half my size, if not smaller. "sometimes, i get guys like this! " she says, showing me her thumb.

"i like big. " tomo says. "i like americans the best. americans are the longest and the hardest. europeans have decent size, but they're not as hard. japanese guys. erect or not, it's just small and soft. " you know, i will never, ever tire of working girls badmouthing japanese guys. it makes up for all the suddenly-silent male touts and mean-spirited obasan that a monger in japan will face. i told tomo that she was awesome, and tomo just shakes her head and says "no, you. you're the best. "

as we're getting dressed, i ask tomo if, if it would be okay, if i could come see her again. tomo's head whips around as she excitedly says "come! come and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me again! " this girl is awesome! she gives me a business card with her working times on it (also, most importantly, the name of the shop. so i know what to look for, and even if she's not sitting out front at least i can ask for her). some more dfk on the way out (she asks me one more time to come back and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her), and both tomo and the mamasan give me warm partings as i depart.

it really was my intention to leave tobita. i mean, i honestly wasn't going to do any better than tomo. however, once again, i found myself lost. i'the taken note of some visual markers when i first entered the area, but i couldn't even find those. i was wondering around in circles again, again passing shops 3-4 times. again, mamasan were starting to laugh at me, with one even calling out "you're a weirdo! " in japanese. i stopped to try and use the gps on my phone at one point, and noticed a girl in a shop looking at me. she had dyed bright blonde hair and dark tanned skin, large tits, and a nice slender body. she seemed like a girl who'the be into hip hop and rap. the session with tomo actually left me energized, so i thought, "why not? " i approached the shop, but the mamasan only gave me a "gomen nasai" and that was the end of the story. oh well. in my wanderings, i passed by tomo's shop again. i noticed that she was back sitting on the pillow at the entrance. i'the only left maybe 5 minutes ago, so i was a little surprised at how quickly she was ready for work again. since i was here again, i poked my head into the shop and asked for directions back to the subway. tomo and the mamasan were both helpful, pointing me in the right direction. as they were finishing giving me directions, a japanese guy came into the shop to patronize tomo. tomo gives me an indiscreet wave before getting up to go upstairs. remembering our conversation before about japanese guys, i couldn't help but to laugh to myself a little. i hope i didn't wear her out/widen her out too much for ya, fella.

all in all, an incredible experience at tobita. tomo was not only great session, but one of my best lays, and definitely one of the hottest. she forgot that she was working. i'the forgotten that i'the paid. i'm definitely going to see her again, next week. i was ambivalent after my last trip to tobita, but i'm sold now. the closer you look to being japanese, the easier your tobita experience will be. i'm pretty much on the opposite end of the scale. so, it did take a lot of humiliation and rejection, but i found what i wanted and more. just took a little patience, and an incredibly tough skin.

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A silver Mercedes had bumped into a phone pole, or maybe into another Mercedes, so the cops were out, around four of them, on bicycles, motorcycles, and on foot. This put a damper on many of the afternoon’s recreational spots, as many of the genkans suddenly closed, some which I had passed just moments earlier and which had been open.

Anyway in another row it was business as usual. I walked. One girl flat-out refused a foreigner (yours truly) even when the mama seemed to suggest it would be okay. On further fly-bys they didn’t even look me. Yet when a carload of yahoos from the nearby construction site drove by you would have thought it was Mardi Gras and the women were in search of beads they were so attentively chiming "Irrashai, dozo. " Such is life. Finally, after searching in vain for the girl of a few weeks ago and seeing all new faces again (Tobita must have a big turnover), I saw a girl in a genkan who hadn’t been there earlier. She was really pretty, though small. She had a face that could have been on a magazine. I approached, got the "dozo, " and in I stepped. O jama shimasu.

We got upstairs. She was in an evening gown. She immediately asked if the regular-sized condom would be okay. "I am sure it’ll be okay, " I said, then wondered if it would be. What was a regular-sized condom? I had once used what I considered a too tight condom a few years earlier in another prefecture, but wasn’t sure if that had been just a one time thing or not.

Anyway she told me to get undressed. I did. She did too in record time, setting her evening dress out lengthwise on the floor like the starched dress of a paper doll. Off came the panties and bra. I was careful not to step on the dress. She had a tiny dark mole on the small of her back.

Her breasts were small, of course. She had a bandage across her lower belly, just beneath her bellybutton above her snatch. This gave me pause.

"Kega? " I asked. A wound?

"Yeah, " she said.

"From what? "

She explained but I couldn’t follow.

By now I was laying down. She blew into the condom and applied it with her lips to the head of my dick. Then rolled it down with her hand and sucked.

"Can I touch you? " I asked. I guess I’m over polite that way. My hand was arching around to her ass.

"Sure, but not down there, " she said, then put my dick back in her mouth. Un, demo shita wa dame yo.

"No? Why? " My hand moved up and tickled her breast.

She came up for air again, and then said the word one doesn’t want to hear: "Baikin. "

Baikin. For those who know, this means bacteria. "What? " I asked. She kept sucking away. My hand eased back. "Is this okay? "

She was done with the CBJ. "It’s okay, " she said. She arched her leg over me. "First, I’ll ride you. Slow, okay. "

My mind was fairly racing now, but she seemed okay. If the bandage was on her belly, it seemed not so much a threat. Still, I wasn’t really thinking clearly. What exactly had she said had caused the wound? By the time I was having second thoughts she had lowered herself and I was inside her and she was grinding into me slowly. Very nice.

I lifted her up, she was so small. This surprised her. "Not too deep, " she said. Christ, no touching the golden triangle, no going deep. And a bandage. But she was pretty. I started to wonder if I was really being stupid.

She grinded away slowly for a while. Really slowly. I could tell she was concentrating. She kept her eyes closed. The clock ticked. I wondered what the hell she was thinking about, because it sure wasn’t me. I finally moved a bit faster, and this brought her back to the moment. She seemed a bit overwhelmed. I lay her down, really gently, and we went missionary. I kept asking her if it hurt. "Not so much, " she said. Which meant a little. I slowed down.

"How about from behind? "

"No, " she said.

"How about from behind just for a little bit? "

"Just a little bit? " She rolled herself over. I don’t know what this position is called, but her legs were in between mine and I was doing her doggy style. I guess because she didn’t want me going too deep. I did her like this for a while. She was plenty lubricated, but that was probably lotion. I kept looking at the mole on her back. I opened her buttocks and got a good look at the action. I tried to go as slowly as possible.

"Can you come? " she asked.

Eventually, I did. I wasn’t even quite there when she said "O-Kei! "

So we finished up. She gave me tissues. "You can take care of it, " she said. I took the condom off, and she took it in a wad of tissue. Then off for cleanup. I heard her in what sounded like a shower room, or maybe she was just gargling. Hell, maybe she was spraying herself down with disinfectant. I had showered before taking the train in, and was wearing a tie (from work), so I wondered what she did when the construction boys came in.

Did I say she wouldn’t let me kiss her? She wouldn’t. "Of course not, " she had said, when I asked. So much for that breath freshening gum.

All in all, a weird experience. By far the least satisfying sexually, but we had a ten-minute talk after coitus. She said her family ran the place. It was her mom downstairs. (She said the word in Japanese. I asked for clarification, and she said yes, Okaasan. She used the word for family. I wonder, still if this was some cultural thing.)

She said she was from the North. All this in Japanese, but still she felt the need to explain to me that Hokkaido was in the North. I just nodded Yeah. She said some guys were too rough. She said there was a guy on the premises as security (I had asked about this.) She mostly answered a bunch of my questions. Very cordially.

In all I think this was a girl who should probably get out of the business. I have no idea the kind of things she must have experienced, but I was as gentle with her as I would have been had I been lifting a baby chick off the grass to put back in the nest. And still she was delicate.

Anyway, sounds like AKnight got the better deal this time. I think he probably had good timing. End of the month and most people have little cash, so it’s the best time to go. This was a three-visit month for me, so it may be quite a while before I go again. That and the "baikin" thing has put me off a bit. Though all seems well.

When I left, instead of just saying "o jama shimashita" I blurted out "Gomen nasai. " It just seemed like what I should say. They didn’t skip a beat, just said the regular "mata kite kudasai" (Come again)

I walked out. The cops were gone. I did notice some city hall looking place with a security camera pointed straight at the street. I winked at it. Maybe you’ll see me on television. I’m the guy who winks.

BTW the girl explained to me about how the money is divided in Tobita. Who gets what and how much and when. What I hadn’t known is part of it is shared by the whole area, like a kind of vendor’s tip pool, or maybe even a neighborhood fund. You’d think they could clean up the place for all the revenue that must come in, but I’ll stop boring you guys.

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Boring, Crikey? Not at all. I enjoy reading at least.

Sounds like you got a girl who was more or less forced into the business. That's always unfortunate. Especially the baikin part. The bandage, from my guess, would be to cover a surgical scar. But, who knows? Hopefully this girl does manage to get out of the business at some point in the near future. And I guess it just goes to show that even if we foreigners did have full selection, not all the girls would be great picks.

Speaking of, I made a trip out to Tobita myself yesterday. Not particularly for mongering, but because I wanted to see Tomo specifically. I'd taken decent mental notes of the area around where her shop was located, and if nothing else I knew the name of it. I arrived around 6:45 in the evening, and somehow managed to find the street where the shop is on my first try, no wandering or getting lost.

It was much nicer walking around in Tobita with a destination and a purpose. I didn't care how many mamasan weren't inviting me in. I think a few mamasan/girls recognized me from my previous trips, but I also didn't care about this as well.

I found Tomo's shop quickly. It's a great thing I remembered the name, because I wouldn't have remembered the mamasan, and there was a different girl sitting out front. The mamasan greeted me warmly. I asked about Tomo - the mamasan told me she was available, but I'd have to wait about 20 minutes. Tomo's a busy girl today it seems. I'd come out here to see her, so I told the mamasan I wouldn't mind waiting. I wondered for a moment if the mamasan wasn't going to offer up the girl who was already sitting there. She wasn't bad - nice slim figure, pretty face, and big tits, albeit fake. They just looked fake, and to confirm my suspicions I could still see a scar.

The mamasan took me to a room to wait. She brought me up the tea platter and turned on the AC for me. Waiting gave me a chance to cool down and dry off a bit, as the walk to Tobita in the increasingly hot and humid weather can get a little sticky. I'm not sure how long I actually waited - I suppose it was no more than 25 or 30 minutes, but it felt like a small eternity. Eventually, Tomo came. She thanked me for coming back, and instructed me to switch rooms, to the one we'd gone to before. I asked if she was okay and if she was "busy", but she just responded that this was the norm. I remembered the Japanese guy who showed up not long after I'd finished with her the last time, and couldn't help but to think that I was on the other end of the stick this time.

After again settling the price (16,000 yen for 25 minutes), Tomo goes to the bathroom to clean up, then comes back, goes straight to the futon, and has her clothes off within seconds. "Well then, let's have sex?" She says, exactly like that. I told her she was pretty direct. I stripped down and joined her on the futon.

The session was pretty much the same as the last time. She started her usual routine on me before I interrupted her to give her oral, and then from there it was just GFE. I noticed that Tomo made more of an effort to curb her screaming this time - I'm almost certain the mamasan or something must have said something to her about it the last time. At one point, she pretty much stopped making noise at all, because the only other alternative would have been to unleash a scream that would have brought down the entire neighborhood.

I'm pretty sure we went over time. I remember hearing a chime, and then a second double chime about 5 minutes later. Tomo never pressed me to hurry up and finish though (I'm not entirely sure she was aware of the chime). When I did finish, Tomo pretty much laid prone for a couple of minutes to recover. When she did recover, we both dressed and left the room, after one more DFK. Tomo said "come again", and when I said "Sure, if it's okay", she responded with "No no, none of that "if it's okay" nonsense - you must come again." The mamasan was also very nice to me as I left, and I noticed that the girl sitting out front from before was gone - a busy night for this shop it seems. Or perhaps, just "futsu" as Tomo had said.

This time, knowing exactly how I got there, I was able to re-trace my steps to leave. No more getting lost! While I was walking, I was texting a friend on my keitai, and as I passed by a shop a mamasan called out to me. I didn't get a good look, but the girl seemed pretty enough. I smiled at both to thank them for the invite, but kept on going - I'd gotten what I came for.

I think I'll take a break from Tobita for awhile. I'll probably go again next month, but same as this time, just head straight for Tomo's shop and Tomo. Why mess with a good thing? Even if, by some chance, Tomo is unavailable, I seem to be in good standing with the mamasan, and this shop looks like its got a nice selection of girls. Mongering in Japan can be hard for foreigners, but if one finds a good shop and a good girl, take it and run with it, I say.

First time post, although I've been lurking for a bit. I got into this hobby simply by drinking too much, if you can believe that. :) I'd get totally plastered and go outside of a club for some fresh air, and get coerced into FS from a random girl walking the streets outside of a club. Hey, for 10,000 - 15,000 yen, I can't complain!

Any way, some background on me... I'm Canadian-born but my background is Asian, and I have a pretty high degree of fluency in Japanese, thus I can almost always get by with the excuse of I am a "Nikkei" (Japanese-blood, born/raised outside of Japan) even though I have 0 Japanese blood in me. Having said that I can pretty much talk my way into any shop, and I can and have convinced shop owners to allow my (also) drunken friends who aren't Asian to be allowed in.

I went to a Health spot called Club Ruby in Shinsaibashi, which offers BBBJ CIM with tons of 'play' so to speak. Their rooms are fairly large and consist of a bath tub, bed, plastic floatable mat for oil play. I let the owners choose a girl for me, and I got Kumi, a nice 26 year old hottie with a nice rack and full lips. When I didn't understand what she was talking about she immediately called me out on my foreignerness, and I threw up the Nikkei excuse and she bought it, woohoo. I purchased the 40 minute Mat course which was 13,000 yen. The 30 minute course is a Health course and consists of only BBBJ CIM, whereas the Mat courses start off with a bath, then 69, then BBBJ CIM

Any way, Kumi was a dream to be with! She washed me down nicely, everywhere (there was a reason for this too!), while filling the bathtub, and then we got into the tub and she started going down on me slowly, then started to do some titty-fucking in the tub. She then got the mat out, lathered it up with oil and we proceeded to "play" on it, which meant a lot of DFK, 69 and fingering. She eventually got me to the bed, where I sat down and watched her blow me until I came. All in all, a good experience, even though this was my first time in a 'real' health salon. The other times i've gone hobbying have been while drunk, and realizing that getting any tail that night was futile, haha.

It seems that Club Ruby may allow foreigners alone in there, but just to be safe you may want to bring a Japanese friend with you. I haven't tried going there with any of my friends but if I do I'll confirm it.

How about posting the address and directions of this Club Ruby

KJ

[QUOTE=Saint Of Killers]First time post, although I've been lurking for a bit. I got into this hobby simply by drinking too much, if you can believe that. :) I'd get totally plastered and go outside of a club for some fresh air, and get coerced into FS from a random girl walking the streets outside of a club. Hey, for 10,000 - 15,000 yen, I can't complain!

Any way, some background on me... I'm Canadian-born but my background is Asian, and I have a pretty high degree of fluency in Japanese, thus I can almost always get by with the excuse of I am a "Nikkei" (Japanese-blood, born/raised outside of Japan) even though I have 0 Japanese blood in me. Having said that I can pretty much talk my way into any shop, and I can and have convinced shop owners to allow my (also) drunken friends who aren't Asian to be allowed in.

I went to a Health spot called Club Ruby in Shinsaibashi, which offers BBBJ CIM with tons of 'play' so to speak. Their rooms are fairly large and consist of a bath tub, bed, plastic floatable mat for oil play. I let the owners choose a girl for me, and I got Kumi, a nice 26 year old hottie with a nice rack and full lips. When I didn't understand what she was talking about she immediately called me out on my foreignerness, and I threw up the Nikkei excuse and she bought it, woohoo. I purchased the 40 minute Mat course which was 13,000 yen. The 30 minute course is a Health course and consists of only BBBJ CIM, whereas the Mat courses start off with a bath, then 69, then BBBJ CIM

Any way, Kumi was a dream to be with! She washed me down nicely, everywhere (there was a reason for this too!), while filling the bathtub, and then we got into the tub and she started going down on me slowly, then started to do some titty-fucking in the tub. She then got the mat out, lathered it up with oil and we proceeded to "play" on it, which meant a lot of DFK, 69 and fingering. She eventually got me to the bed, where I sat down and watched her blow me until I came. All in all, a good experience, even though this was my first time in a 'real' health salon. The other times i've gone hobbying have been while drunk, and realizing that getting any tail that night was futile, haha.

It seems that Club Ruby may allow foreigners alone in there, but just to be safe you may want to bring a Japanese friend with you. I haven't tried going there with any of my friends but if I do I'll confirm it.[/QUOTE]

A simple Google search turned up this: [url]http://www.club-ruby.com/shop.html[/url]

Correct me if I'm wrong, SOK. There could certainly be more than one "club ruby."

Oops. :) Here you go

Chuo-ku, Nishi Shinsaibashi 2-chome

Phone # is 06-6212-7500

Website is [url]http://club-ruby.com[/url]

Krikey,

Girls don't want you to touch their pussy because your fingernails contain all kinds of dirt and harmful bacteria; therefore, don't think that her cooch was dirty, but she was taking precaution against the likelihood of your fingers being unclean. Think about it, would any woman say, "don't touch my pussy, it's infected."??? Certainly not. A woman would say, especially in this business, don't touch my shit with your filthy hands.

Happy hobbying

[QUOTE=Retard Ed]Krikey,

Girls don't want you to touch their pussy because your fingernails contain all kinds of dirt and harmful bacteria; therefore, don't think that her cooch was dirty, but she was taking precaution against the likelihood of your fingers being unclean. Think about it, would any woman say, "don't touch my pussy, it's infected."??? Certainly not. A woman would say, especially in this business, don't touch my shit with your filthy hands.

Happy hobbying[/QUOTE]You're exactly right, Ed. My only concern was the bandage on her lower belly and how she said this was due to some kind of bacterial infection she had received. No doubt from some ill-mannered SOB like myself for whom a wipe-down with an [i]oshibori[/i] wasn't enough.

Back in Osaka and decided to try フリージア thanks to a couple reports a little while back.

Found the building OK using the map from the website. It is door #5 on the 4th floor, by the way.

Got the event price and opted to choose my own for another 1000. Three were ready, another 3 would be ready in 20 min, and another 6 much later. Most are in their 30s, about have on the heavy side, but a decent choice nonetheless.

I chose 31yr old Ana and the 90min course for 14,200 (hotel included with that pric), and was not dissapointed by her large bust and incredible technique. Had a quick washdown and a little teasing in the shower, then the longest BBBJ w/AR in my life (about 45 min), then a short recovery and another HJ leading to BBBJ CIM. She was pretty much the GFE, and I am tempted to ask for her again.

I was the 3rd foreigner she'd had apparently. Guy in the shop didn't seem to blink when I walked in, but if you don't speak Japanese I am not sure how far you'll get.

Went to Amour in Shinsaibashi, which is a health parlor that's actually across the street from Club Ruby, the last place I reported.

This place was a little bit cheaper, but only by 2,000 yen or so. I chose a 40 minute health course with Rui. Cute girl, with a nice rack but seemed very tired and/or not in the mood today. She didn't want to talk alot, so she basically got to work early. After a scrubdown and some play in the tub we headed to the bed where she gave BBBJ and eventually into 69. Unlike Kumi from Club Ruby, Rui wasn't all that great. It was by the numbers, unlike Kumi who actually wanted to DFK and play around a little. For the price (11,000 yen) it was alright but I guess I was kind of foolish to expect more. :(

info: [url]http://club-amour.com[/url]
tel: 06-6213-5599

Amour seems less stringent than Club Ruby was. They immediately noticed that I was not native Japanese but they were still convinced by the Nikkei excuse. Plus the fact that I spoke good enough japanese got me in. Non-asian foreigners proceed with caution as they may not allow you, but you never know... someone oughta try :)

Surfed around and found a hotel health place in Osaka. The women--all of them--on it were unbelievable. Figured I'the give it a shot. This was my first and second mistake.

Doubt they were hot? You be the judge: [url]www.lei-maria.com[/url]

I call them up and ask for a reservation. The guys asks which girl, I tell him my first two choices, but then have to explain that my request is for the next day. He says to order for the next day I have to call back after eight p. M.

The website says 7pm is when next-day orders are filled, so I call back at 730. The guy says to call back at 8 pm, as the 7pm pre-ordering is for members only. Okay.

I call back at 8. He says it's not eight but 7:58. Please call back in two minutes.

Hmm. I wait another half hour and call. Now he knows me, and we get down to the arrangements. I order the girl--my first choice is immediately available. For 23, 000 yen I can choose the girl and get the hotel room for an hour. Sure. I chose Yurina, by the way, though Ran is hands-down my type. Then again which of those women are not.

This is all in Japanese. I'm beginning to be proud of myself for going this far. He then asks, very very politely, if I might be a foreigner. Warning bells go off. "Why? " I ask. He hems and haws then says "Okay, please nevermind, I see you must be Japanese" or something to that effect.

I don't correct him. Third mistake.

You see where this is going.

Next day my appt. Is for 11:15 a. M. At a certain train exit. He tells me to call back and confirm at 10: 15.

So I sleep on it. I gird myself for the worst, assuming this is all going to fail. It does in case you're wondering.

At 10: 15 I'm there. It's hot out. I call and confirm. I don't say I've arrived since I want to find the place (though I eventually cannot.) On the phone he says call back about ten minutes before the appointment. I hang around for a while inside the a/see of a convenience store. I'm beginning to feel like an idiot.

I call back right before. He seems happy to hear from me. I've told him my name is "Ken. " This is a neutral-sounding name--could be an English-speaking national or Japanese. I have patted myself on the back for this bit of slyness.

Then comes the tangle. He gives me directions to the place. I don't understand half of what he says. I eventually--fifteen minutes into the appointed time--get very near the location, after three phone calls from the guy to my mobile.

I imagine the girl I've chosen, who might be in the office standing there in her inappropriate evening dress and perfume, ready for her guy--me. She must be getting antsy. Nothing compared to my own antsiness, I'm sure.

I get halfway down a certain block. There is a young guy in black pants, a white shirt, and black tie. The official uniform of the men involved in such businesses, I guess.

He sees me on the phone with the direction-giving operator, and I see a look cross his face. Not a good look. I hang up. The white shirt guy begins sending a text message. He asks if I'm Ken, and I say yes. He smiles. But not a good smile.

More hemming and hawing. He asks me what country I'm from. He apologizes to me and, seeing I'm hot, takes me to the inside lobby of a nearby love hotel and buys me a drink from a vending machine. He insists he will pay and does--albeit only 110 yen. But it's a nice gesture.

He apologizes and says foreigners are not allowed. I ask why, nicely. I thank him for the drink. He says it's the shop policy. I ask if it's because of language, or body type. He says no, no. He gives an explanation I cannot understand, but I think the gist is these are just the rules.

We stand there like that for almost 15 minutes. I try every polite strategy I can. In the end he compliments me on my Japanese, apologizes profusely, says he will give the girl my regrets (I told him it was a waste for her to be waiting and not get a job.) He says she'll be fine. He refuses my offer of the full fare for what would now be half the time. He says money is, alas, not the issue.

I ask if a smelly salaryman came would he be allowed. He says yes, maybe, but maybe not. He says drunks aren't allowed though. I ask if even a famous foreigner came would he be allowed. He said "Hm, so desu ne. " He says they wouldn't' be. But he says no famous foreigners have ever tried.

In the end he says he'll explain my situation and advocate for foreigners to the upper levels. Yawn. I can see how effective that will be already, but this guy has been very polite. Excruciatingly so.

I shake his hand and bid him bye bye. He seems truly sorry. He watches me walk off.

I can't help but wonder what would happen if I had actually made it in the door of the shop and seen the girl. I'm no judge of guys, but I'm no slouch. But of course one wonders these things. It would probably have been exactly the same, but in a refreshing A/see environment.

So. Long story long. I went to Tobita later. Honoka is a sweet, though short girl who is very attentive.

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Hi Crikey - wow, what an "unbelievable" collection of gorgeous women. Maybe that was too much to hope for. You didn't get in and got treated badly to boot, but I am highly suspicious that any derihesu outfit can really have that caliber of babes on call. Sorry about your bad experience, but it should be a heads-up for the rest of us.

SD

[QUOTE=Shy Dude]Hi Crikey - wow, what an "unbelievable" collection of gorgeous women. Maybe that was too much to hope for. You didn't get in and got treated badly to boot, but I am highly suspicious that any derihesu outfit can really have that caliber of babes on call.[/QUOTE]

Why? For the right price, of course they can. And you`ll notice that this place is not cheap.
Also, keep in mind that a good photographer can make almost every girl look good. I say if i.e. Club Boo hired professional photographer, they could present their girls in the same way. So there.

This is why I'm hesistant in using delivery health. I'm confident in my Japanese abilities, but once the girl actually shows, who knows what'll happen. I've got Tobita and a couple of pink salons I can go to, that's enough for me.

Speaking of Tobita, a funny story (well, I'm amused by it). I met up with a girl I met online. Turns out that she's a total sex freak. Nice. We were talking about lots of various different stuff, and out of nowhere she asks me if I've ever been to Tobita. I was kind of shocked that she knew about it. I, of course, denied that I'd ever been. She told me that she went once, just to see what was up. She said that the selection of women was quite gorgeous, and considering the price, the services, and the line up of girls, Tobita was probably the best deal in Japan.

I wanted to say "you're preaching to the choir!" but I tactfully kept my mouth shut.

greetings-

does anyone know about the apollo building, or apollo 1 building in tennoji (i think.)? i have heard it has several floors with 'shows', but i can't confirm. as i live in kobe, i would be willing to give it a go, but would be much more willing if i knew a little more about it. thanks in advance.

on a separate note, just got back from a trip to tokyo. i'm a happily married man, so my options are limited as i don't want to cause trouble at home. settled for a 'nozoki', a peep show, in shinjuku. 1500 yen to get in, with a 2000 yen hand job. kind of fun, in a get-back-to-basics kind of way. truly a japanese experience, as they managed to combine the erotic (the simulated masturbation of the model) with the business like 'oneigashimasu---otsukaresamadeshita' of the hand job provider.

any place like that in osaka?

by the way, enjoy az knight's postings, along with others. keep up the good work, as i live vicariously through you all. lol.

drew

Hi guys,

I'm a frenchy and unfortunatly my Japanese level is so lower than my English one. So imagine!

Well I can notice that many of you can speak pretty good japanese and many say that it should be good to speak Japanese a little bit to get a chance to be accepted in some Soaplands. But what is "little bit"? Do you mean just some words like: " Sumimasen watashiha furansujindesu, daijobudesuka"?

I am just a beginner in Japanese. I just know how to "decode" kanas and express some basics thing but still unperfectly (as you can notice! ).

Is it enough to be accepted?

Further I still hesitate between soapland and "deliheru". To get FS which is the best and for an equivalent price? If I chose the "deliheru" will I be refused as I'm a gaijin also? Can staff speak english on the phone when ordering?

I have to go to Osaka several times a year and no way to be "jobless" there! If someone can help me to reserve a gal for "DH" service it would great!

Thanks for your help.

Cheers

Although I have been to Osaka a couple of times, I did not find an opportunity to monger.

I will be spending a few days there next month and will have quite a bit of free time on my hands over a weekend.

I have RTFF but have a couple of questions:

Tobita: I reckon I can find the area based on the directions posted, however, are there any specific streets or concentrations of foreigner friendly girls I should look for? I speak no Japanese.

Club Amour vs. Club Ruby: Which one is the best chance for me? Is any specific time better than others? It looks like they offer a special discount at certain times. Is this a daytime rate? I could not tell exactly from their websites. Are there any other similar "guaranteed" foreigner friendly places?

Other mongering options: Is there anything else I should not miss in Osaka? For example, I enjoy the BJ places in Sugamo in Tokyo. Does the same exist in Osaka? Does Osaka offer anything else special not found in other places in Japan?

Finally, if any resident or visiting mongers want to hook-up and show a newbie the ropes, PM me for dates.

Thanks.

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Although I have been to Osaka a couple of times, I did not find an opportunity to monger.

I will be spending a few days there next month and will have quite a bit of free time on my hands over a weekend.

I have RTFF but have a couple of questions:

Tobita: I reckon I can find the area based on the directions posted, however, are there any specific streets or concentrations of foreigner friendly girls I should look for? I speak no Japanese.

OAH[/QUOTE]

OAH- In the 4 or 5 visists I have made to Tobita, I have not found any street or concentration of houses friendlier to gaijin. There is a concentration of houses along the street furthest to the north that tends to have the prettiest girls (IMHO), and these tended to be less available... but I would just wander around until I found something I liked and that liked me too... if you spent 15 minutes walking, you would certainly have covered the whole neighborhood quite well.

Waitan,

You'll find that Japan is a funny country for mongering. Your ethnicity counts for more than your Japanese level. I can speak fluent Japanese, but if a place has decided they don't accept foreigners, there's little to nothing I can say to convince them otherwise.

As far as I know, there aren't any DH services in Osaka that accept foreigners and have English support. Soaplands are a pretty exclusive club as well.

If you really want to go to a soapland/DH, my recommendation would be to find a Japanese guy (or an Asian guy with good enough Japanese) to kind of act as your sponsor. If you go together, he can vouch for you. Some places would be more willing to accept a foreigner if you have that Japanese sponsor guy.

For mongering in Osaka, your best bet is probably Tobita, or picking up freebies from bars/clubs/right there on the street. Use your basic Japanese to ask a cute girl on the street for directions to some place - see if you can't get her back to your hotel room by the end of the night.

[QUOTE=Waitan]Hi guys,

I'm a frenchy and unfortunatly my Japanese level is so lower than my English one. So imagine!

Well I can notice that many of you can speak pretty good japanese and many say that it should be good to speak Japanese a little bit to get a chance to be accepted in some Soaplands. But what is "little bit"? Do you mean just some words like: " Sumimasen watashiha furansujindesu, daijobudesuka"?

I am just a beginner in Japanese. I just know how to "decode" kanas and express some basics thing but still unperfectly (as you can notice! ).

Is it enough to be accepted?

Further I still hesitate between soapland and "deliheru". To get FS which is the best and for an equivalent price? If I chose the "deliheru" will I be refused as I'm a gaijin also? Can staff speak english on the phone when ordering?

I have to go to Osaka several times a year and no way to be "jobless" there! If someone can help me to reserve a gal for "DH" service it would great!

Thanks for your help.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

OAH,

Your best bet for mongering in Osaka is probably Tobita. It might just be one of the best places in Japan, period.

The directions are easy enough. Take the Yotsubashi line to Hanazonocho, it's maybe a 10-15 minute walk from the station. Once you are in the Tobita district though, you may want to make some visual markers or something, as I've gotten lost within the district twice.

As Stew said, there doesn't seem to be any particular street that's more open to foreigners. There is that main street where the girls are exceptionally incredible, and while it does seem like your chances would be less there, that is where I found my Tomo. I know her shop accepts foreigners at least, and aside from Tomo there's another stunner working there (if you don't mind fake tits).

I would recommend going early - mid-day to late afternoon. Basically, to avoid the "crowd" so to speak, because if the mamasan has to choose from any one of a number of Japanese guys walking around, or you, she's going for the Japanese guy 100% of the time. If business however is sparse, she may be more open to soliciting you.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Although I have been to Osaka a couple of times, I did not find an opportunity to monger.

I will be spending a few days there next month and will have quite a bit of free time on my hands over a weekend.

I have RTFF but have a couple of questions:

Tobita: I reckon I can find the area based on the directions posted, however, are there any specific streets or concentrations of foreigner friendly girls I should look for? I speak no Japanese.

Club Amour vs. Club Ruby: Which one is the best chance for me? Is any specific time better than others? It looks like they offer a special discount at certain times. Is this a daytime rate? I could not tell exactly from their websites. Are there any other similar "guaranteed" foreigner friendly places?

Other mongering options: Is there anything else I should not miss in Osaka? For example, I enjoy the BJ places in Sugamo in Tokyo. Does the same exist in Osaka? Does Osaka offer anything else special not found in other places in Japan?

Finally, if any resident or visiting mongers want to hook-up and show a newbie the ropes, PM me for dates.

Thanks.

OAH[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Waitan]Well I can notice that many of you can speak pretty good japanese and many say that it should be good to speak Japanese a little bit to get a chance to be accepted in some Soaplands. But what is "little bit"? Do you mean just some words like: " Sumimasen watashi ha furansu-jin desu, daijobu desu ka"? Is it enough to be accepted? [/QUOTE]

No. You must use Sonkeigo.

Gyaos.

Hi guys!I just moved to Osaka from May and it has been like 4 years since I lived here last time. Back then I did'nt have ISG to guide myself, but everybody knows that in Nanba and Shinsaibashi you can get anything. Nevertheless, I must admit I feel a bit strange in a big city after living in several smaller ones the last 4 years.

Well, one of my friends from another city came to Osaka to visit me and we decided to monger around. It was pretty early when we started and we went first to Umeda, just hang around. It was 4-5pm and there were not so many places that were open, and we got rejected from those that were open since my friend looks too gaijin(we are latin american, but I am half-japanese and I can speak pretty good japanese, so sometimes japanese touts just don't care).

Finally, we decided to enter to one of the Kabakura that was located just into the Higashi-dori Shotengai. It was on a second floor and there was no people, so they were pretty happy to admit us there. It was 6000yen for nomihodai/90min, and since it was hot, we decided to have some drinks there first. We both went to separate places, and three girls changed turns. The first one was pretty cool, though she was kinda older (around 30 something), but I kinda enjoyed a good time with her. Rules were that we should have some talk at the begining, and you can later see and touch breast. Honestly, was my first time in one place like this, so mostly I enjoyed drinking and talking. The last two girls where a bit ugly, but nice body (I am a tit guy by the way). My friend and I had a good time and went a bit drunk looking for another place.

We ended in Nanba, just outside of the Tenmaya Store. He saw some time ago one strip club not so far from there by the shotengai. We went there and since it was 7pm it costed around 4000yen for 90min nomihodai. I dont remember the name now, but have one card with it somewhere if someone wants to know about it. Later inside, it was other 2000yen for snacks. Although we were not hungry, we had to get one for each of us, policy of the place. The girls were really HOT, with really small bikinis and g-strings. It was 2000yen for tips, and 7000yen for private show. It has also a mid-show every hour, but it is just dancing without showing anything. I actually did not liked it, but my friend was kinda happy there. He had to take a bullet-train back home, so it was my last place with him.

Well, I decided to go alone to Sam&Dave Nagahoribashi, to try something there. It was kinda empty since it was Tuesday. The barman, who was a Canadian girl, was kinda nice. I started to drink with the staff and trying to get some talking with people, and then was when I got drunk. I really hate to get drunk alone in a bar, but I was kinda tired since the afternoon and I must admit I kinda erased some moments. It was kinda fun, just talking with the people and drinking but couldn't get concentrated enough to monger properly. I must have left the place around 4-5am very drunk, and still wanting some action.

Outside I got caught by some chinese girls. I always avoided them, since I know there is usually high cost for low action, but since I was drunk I decided a try. 7000yen for a massage with BJ for one hour. The girl that picked me up was the mamasan, kinda young I must say. She took me to a second floor, in front of the convenience store of the same street of S&D. Small rooms with massage beds, separated by wooden walls. She told me to get undress and a not so bad chinese girl arrived. Now, I actually don't go for a BJ, I rather prefer intercourse. She got undress, cute body, started with a HJ and then put me a condom. She did her best but since I was drunk, I couldn't finish. My hour passed and she tried twice, and then she said it was over and call the mamasan. I complained since I didn't finished (I would never do that sober!). She asked me if I wanted real sex, and I said "yes, of course", and she said it will be other 10000yen more for 1 hour. I accepted and she brought a HOT chinese girl. We kinda play a bit but the bed was too small and I was too drunk. She got into bussiness then, but couldn't finish with her on top. We changed position and 20min later I finished. As soon as she noticed it, she got up and said it was only one time, and I started complaining. Well, the mamasan came in and said it was the system... anyway, I was already finished and tired, so I said it was ok. The mamasan gave me quite a good massage until my time was up and I came back home.

It was a long night, and I think I had fun... I don't like to put much money into this but it was kinda good for exploring and my friend had fun too.

Some days later I tried to find Freejia but ended into another Health. I will write about it another day. If anyone wants to just monger around and try new places let me know. Once in a month I like this kind of experience.

Good Luck!

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I'm back in Osaka for a while now and decided to check out Matsushima, because it's a bit nearer to my apartment. I found it easily based on the directions in a previous post.

It's definitely smaller than Tobita and has a smaller % of top shelf girls. Not everyone invited me, but there were still about 4 that I was choosing from since I look for both 7.5-9 looks and a big welcoming smile from the girl. After I tried talking to three of them (the fourth was now occupied), I settled on a thin young girl named Suki.

She spoke no English and since I speak only some works in Japanese, we didn't do much communicating. This made the interaction a bit awkward, but i still had a great time.

She was about 20-22, thin, with dark skin and bleached hair. A pretty although somewhat angular face. She wore short little dress and back bra and panty set with pink lace. But she came out of this quickly, because we when to share a shower.

I started making out with her in the shower. When we got back, I ate her almost completely shaved pussy while she moaned and thrashed around. Then I stood up so she could give me some CBJ on her knees. I fucked her for the rest of the time in a number of positions and when the bell rang I pulled out and shot my load on her pussy and belly.

She cleaned me up and then we headed back to the shower.

All in all a good time. 20min for 10,000 yen, so a better deal than Tobita.

[QUOTE=Incredulo]Anal Girls (with nama nakadashi)
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Hi all,

I am from the big Aus. I often visit working ladies (as I call them out of respect) however I have lived in Osaka for 3 yrs and never tried it. I guess the lang and the fact that I'm worried about me being gaijin I won't be accepted anywhere. I know this might seem a bit strange. But is anyone interested in taking me under their wing hehe and showing me the good places. I think once I find a regular place I will be fine. I just have to get my foot in the door

Also I wanted to ask does anyone know of any nice/cheap hotels that offer in house massages that are almost 100% chance of hand j or head j or fs.

My email/msn is [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

Thnx for ya time.

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Had a chance to visit Kobe for the first time in a long while. Can confirm the at the soapland area near Kobe station is still anti-foreigners, as I walked slowly past a dozen touts and didn't get a single irrashaimase...same goes for the pink zone on the north side of Sannomiya station.

Did have an excellent 50 minute massage for about 7,000 from a Taiwanese. I forget the name of the place, but it is in the midst of the pink salon alley on the right side just up from the Hankyu Sannomiya station.

Unfortunatey, she tried to upsell a HJ for 8,000 and dropped it to 5,000, but I said I wasn't interested (plus that is overpriced anyway for an add-on of a HJ). I complained that I prefered to have all the business done up front like in Japanese shops, but she said her boss instructs them to offer the additional services as the massage is ending.

Map (either here on on alley over to the west). [url]http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34%2F41%2F25.125&lon=135%2F11%2F42.027&layer=0&ac=28110&mode=map&size=s&type=static&pointer=on&sc=2[/url]

The second experience was at MIYAKO. This is a massage/HJ place only-no touching. That said, you get a shower, excellent 45 minute massage from a pretty 20-something J-gal, and an incredible HJ all for 10,000. My gal was quite chatty and friendly and I could see myself asking her out were I around more. Foreigners are welcome-just be sure you understand the no-touch rule. You can become a member after your first visit and get 1,000 off and make bookings in advance-adviseable as this place can be packed after 5pm.

Address yamate dori1-16-15 yoshimurabuilding B1
tel 078-333-1615

Walk up from Hankyu station, cross the fist main street and search the alleyways for a corner building with sign and a stairway leading downstairs...

Map (general area only I am afraid):
[url]http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34%2F41%2F29.02&lon=135%2F11%2F43.201&layer=0&sc=1&ac=28110&mode=map&type=static&pointer=on&size=l[/url]

Hi,

I live in osaka, I use to go alot to SW in australia my home country but here I havnt had the chance. Lang and being white doesnt help. I was wondering if anyone wanted to meet up some time and show me the ropes on where the good places are that accept gaijin. I have lived in japan for 3 yrs.

Also if anyone knows. I want to find out if there are any hotels that do inhouse massages that are almost 100% chance of hand j or head j or fs.

Thnx pm me please.

Does anyone know the street scene in Osaka these days. There were some reports a few years back about Latinas and Thai's in the Umeda area. I've been looking around in the places mentioned, but haven't seen anything.

I definitely like to find those Thai girls, so if anyone knows their new spot, let us know.

Gentlemen,

I will be in Osaka next weekend. If any fellow mongers would like to hook-up and show an Osaka newbie the ropes, PM me.

Thanks.

OAH

[QUOTE=Xslikx]Does anyone know the street scene in Osaka these days. There were some reports a few years back about Latinas and Thai's in the Umeda area. I've been looking around in the places mentioned, but haven't seen anything.
[/QUOTE]I last spotted the gaggle of curvy Columbians about a year ago. In May, they were all gone, cleaned out. If you want Thais, you can get fixed up through one of the older women idling around.

They will ask you if you want ¥8,000 all you can drink, but if you say you want a girl, "onna to asobitai" they will call a pimp at one of the clubs and arrange to meet a girl from their bar at one of the ubiquitous love hotels. ¥10,000 for 30 minutes or 20,000 for an hour.

Just to follow up on Jung's helpful info...

I wandered around the area mentioned in the previous posts the other night around 1am and noticed a bunch of Asian street walkers. Most of them looked Chinese but some of them could have been Thai. A few were cute, but no stunners.

I negotiated with one cutie for a 30 min massage for 3,000. We went to a place in the restaurant section to the south west of the intersection and she brought me upstairs. The room was separated with curtains and I could hear some other dude getting serviced right next to the area where she brought me.

She told me that I had to keep my pants on, so I said I wasn't interested and she gave me my money back. She followed me out and then grabbed my hand and whispered something in my ear. Since I speak almost no Japanese, she had to write out on her hand that I could have sex for 15,000.

I didn't have the cash on me and wasn't all that interested anyway, so I took off.

Does anyone know if the video booth in Umeda (right behind HEP5) offer any special HJ/BJ services? It's the "I love video" video booth that's beside the Monte Arcade/Yoshinoya, across the street from Tsutaya. I'm gonna be going out with some friends for karaoke/drinks on Saturday night, but in the event that I miss my last train, that's going to be where I'll be resting, and I'd like to know if they can provide me with any relaxing services. ;)

I went there once just to check the available videos. I saw only video films there. I did not see anything about special services, but maybe they give if you ask.

Shrappy.

I am in Osaka this weekend for 3 days if you want to hook-up. I tried to PM you, but you are not a paid member. Sign up and PM me if you want to hook-up.

OAH


[QUOTE=Shrappy2007]Hi,

I live in osaka, I use to go alot to SW in australia my home country but here I havnt had the chance. Lang and being white doesnt help. I was wondering if anyone wanted to meet up some time and show me the ropes on where the good places are that accept gaijin. I have lived in japan for 3 yrs.

Also if anyone knows. I want to find out if there are any hotels that do inhouse massages that are almost 100% chance of hand j or head j or fs.

Thnx pm me please.[/QUOTE]

I made my debut visit to Tobita today. It reminds me of the RLD in Seoul or Amsterdam, but the old mamasans give it a different twist. I am curious what the deal is with the mamasans. How does it work?

My call rate was pretty low, but I only focussed on the ones that I would consider doing. The best quality were definitely off limits for me. I did not get anywhere near the 50% call rate that fellow mongers have posted, probably closer to 30%.

I walked around for a couple of hours window shopping. I noticed the turnover was very high after 7:00PM. Nearly half the girls were occupied at a given time. How many punters does one girl do a day?

I picked a girl that I would say was about a 7. Opted for the 11,000 for 15 minutes. The service was pretty mechanical; CBJ, cowgirl, mish, and doggy. After I popped, she cleaned me up, got dressed immediately and walked out before the bell.

I guess you cannot expect much in Japan for 11,000 yen, but I must say that the experience was below my expectations considering all the posts on this thread saying how great a place Tobita is. Did I do something wrong?

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]

I guess you cannot expect much in Japan for 11,000 yen, but I must say that the experience was below my expectations considering all the posts on this thread saying how great a place Tobita is. Did I do something wrong?

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]

OAH - The only thing you did wrong was not enjoy yourself. Tobita may just not be your thing. I have always found it an interesting scene, but not usually an outstanding sexual experience.

OAH - It's a shame that your weekend in Osaka is this one - I'm actually not in Japan at the moment. Although, walking around with me would probably decrease your chances in Tobita.

It was actually my second time in Tobita/third girl before I struck gold. My call rate was pretty low (less than 5%, if that...) so I was really forced to take only what I could get. That's sort of representative of the scene in Japan in general - only what they'll let you have. It's awful, but those are the cards we've been dealt. The upside is that it's probably exponentially easier for us to pick up random girls on the street/in bars and clubs than it would be for your average Japanese guy.

I would recommend going a lot earlier in the day. 7PM onward is prime time - and if a Mamasan has to choose between you and a Japanese guy, she's gonna go Japanese 100% of the time. It's much better to go when the pickings are sparse - when its a not a matter of who they want to get their 11 000 yen from, but if they're going to get it at all.

The girl I frequent, Tomo - I usually ask her jokingly if I'm her first customer of the day. Equally as good-spirited, she asks me if she's that ugly. I get there around 6:45~7 on a weekday, and I'm usually customer #4 or 5 for her. She's in the upscale district, and she herself is a knockout, so that's not too surprising.

I remember one day, I was the 4th customer, and I asked her about her previous 3 - 1 Japanese, 1 Chinese and 1 Australian. So her place does seem to accept foreigners. I do distinctly remember having walked down that street though and not getting one call. During our first meeting, I remember Tomo saying that she preferred foreigners, and since the mamasan doesn't actively call out to them, she'll try to make eye contact, send them a wink or a smile to get them to come over.

I think, the next time I go out to see her, I'm going to ask her what she knows about Tobita and their foreigner acceptance - if there are other shops like hers that we can get into, or if there are some sort of secret signals from the girls that we're completely missing out on. I'd like to help my fellow monger, as well as myself - Tomo's wonderful, but I'm feeling the urge to butterfly a bit. Aside from Tomo's place, there are only a handful of places I can actually go to, which are all but eliminated if you factor in whether I want to spend money on the girl or not. There is another smoking hot girl who works at Tomo's place - I've often considered "accidentally" going there on Tomo's day off, and just saying "Well, since I'm here..." I'm not sure if that violates some kind of working girl code of honor though.

Azure Knight/Stew 2:

My call rate in the upscale district, after 7:00PM, was probably less than 5% too. I was also taking into account the shops off the main drag with the fat, ugly, older, girls in my 30% figure and that I arrived around 5:30PM and window shopped for a couple of hours. There were only 2-3 girls available to me that I would have done. The call rate did decrease dramatically as the place got busier with local clientele.

I did not ask my girl her name, but she was taller with red shoulder length hair and a C cup. The place was about half way down on the main drag. IMHO, the service I got was typical of a BBS girl in China without the shower. Off with the clothes, a few minutes BJ, followed by FS in multiple positions. The big difference is that it was 5X the price.

I did enjoy myself, especially walking up and down the roads, checking out all the talent and watching the action. I am the type that takes forever to make a decision always thinking I will find a better one. When I went back for the girls I wanted, they were occupied.

I will definitely go back again and give it another shot. I am used to the rejection. RLD in Seoul is the same thing.

OAH

P.S. I've seen you guys posting in China. If you find yourself in S. China, give me a shout.

Although there are fewer houses in Matsushima, there are usually two or three girls in each one, so the numbers are closer to those in Tobita than it would at first appear. On the other hand, the girls usually sit behind a little counter, so you can't see their bodies. There are some hot girls here but its mostly 6.5-8 range, very few real beauties. In Matsushima, you get 20 mins for 10,000, 30 min for 15,000. You take a shower and the clock starts after you get back to the room.

I think the call rate in Tobita depends on a lot of factors. I usually only pick a place where the mamasan says "dozo" and the girl is giving me a nice big smile. There are some places where the girl looks excited but the mamasan does not call out, but I haven't tried any of these (although based on AK's post, I will). I'm short for a white guy (5'8"), but I guess I look Japanese from behind, because there are plenty of times when the mamasan will call out "dozo" and then as soon as she gets a good look at me, she'll sputter a rejection in disgust.

I was in Tobita on a Friday afternoon last week and I was getting a high call rate, 60-70%. (I don't even bother with the side streets.) The girls were so fucking hot it was too bad I didn't have time to stop.

On the other hand, I was there again on Sat night around 10:30 and the place was hopping. The streets were full of cars, vans and packs of J-dudes checking out the girls. I was probably only getting called by one or two houses per block (again only in the central area). Now, the mamasans who were calling were really aggressive because they wanted to make sure I knew it was me being called and not the J-dudes who were always around. Despite these low odds, I ended up fucking one of the hottest girls I've ever had. Apparently there's no shower in Tobita, even with this muggy weather. She just wiped off my cock with a sanitary napkin and stuck it in her mouth. It was full GFE with kissing and bbbj, and coved fucking in a number of different positions. The sex was nothing spectacular, but the girl was so hot - with smooth white skin, beautiful perky handful-sized tits, a thin waist, big black eyes and anime hair - that I've been thinking about her all week.

Before I went home, I walked around a bit more just to see who else is there. A few girls recognized me from my Friday stroll and I thought about going for another round, or maybe coming back in a few weeks to see one of them. I saw the girl I fucked a few more times and she gave me a big smile each time, so I wouldn't worry about not banging two girls in the same house.

Apparently there is another little LDR called Imazato Shinchi which is supposedly a Korean area in Ikuno Ward. Anyone know any details?


Clipped from Rising Sun of Nihon:

[quote]There are at least 10 red light districts in the Kansai area near Osaka.

1. Tobita (80-90 shops)

2. Matsushima Shinchi (70 Shops)

3. Imazato Shinchi (30 shops)

4. Kannami Shinchi (30-40 shops)

5. Shintaizan Shinchi (30 shops)

6. Gojo Rakuen (15 shops)

7. Ikoma City (10 shops)

8. Takii Shinchi (10 shops)

9. Tenno Shinchi (5 shops)[/quote]

I don't think you're going to find FS in Japan for less than 10 000 yen. The BJ bars/health salons advertise 5000 yen for 30 minutes or so, but in order to get FS you're going to have to buy more "time", which will put you over the 10 000 mark. Even if you do buy the "time", a lot of it will be wasted with the girl's repeated trips to the bathroom, and her trying to talk to you.

Not to mention that even if we were willing to throw fistfuls of cash at touts and mamasan, there are plenty of them who just wouldn't accept us foreigners no matter what. Unfortunately, these places always seem to have the best looking woman. We're stuck with having to accept only what they'll let us have.

It's why the mongering scene in Japan is so frustrating. If only we were Japanese, or at least could pass for Japanese, a whole world of great services would be available. On the other hand, freebies are a lot easier for us than they would be in other countries.

I do miss Thailand though.

[QUOTE=Xslikx]Apparently there is another little LDR called Imazato Shinchi which is supposedly a Korean area in Ikuno Ward. Anyone know any details?

Clipped from Rising Sun of Nihon:[/QUOTE]
This is interesting. I know I've personally zeroed-in on Tobita, but I'm curious about these other places, especially the call rates. Has anyone else been out to any of these places? Does anyone want to go?

This place is fun if you like to look, which I don't. [url]http://www.apollo-1bld.com/Tel_0120081181.html[/url] However, if you are drunk it is much better. We went for a birthday party last month, and we are going again tomorrow, so if you want to join us, let me know.

Last month we went to the fifth floor and got an all-you-can-drink, 2 hour for ¥7,000. We were trashed, and the second party at the Royal Host was, as my office's intern put it: "bowling shoe ugly".

Tomorrow we have another ¥7,000 all-you-can-drink, NO TIME LIMIT deal. I explained to the guy that we are some serious drinkers, and he said not to worry. Admittedly, they make their money on the dances. Plus the booze is god awful cheap.

The address is Apollo Building, 2-5-19 Sakuragawa, Naniwa-ku, Osaka or 大阪市浪速区桜川2-5-19アポロビル. At the top of exit 7 of the Sakuragawa Station on the Sennichimae line, turn 90 degrees right. Go to the first corner, turn right. Go to the next cross street and the Apollo Building will be on the near corner on your left side. Have fun. You are welcome to PM me.

Ciao for now,
Mak

Ok, I found Imazato Shinchi last night (Shinimazato 3-chome, Ikuno-ku). It doesn't compare with Tobita-shinchi or the Kujou district and I was only window shopping and chatting but it was kinda cool nevertheless.

There were about 15-20 shops that are built in the same style as the other two districts but there are no girls in the front doorway - just some old ladies and pairs of slippers. At first I assumed all the girls were occupied, but then I realized that there were no men's shoes in the front area either.

The brothels and interspersed with izakayas, karaoke and hostess clubs and korean restaurants. There are Korean girls walking the street and trying to get you to come into the clubs for drinking or karaoke.

Most of the old women averted their eyes when I rode by, but a few tried to get my attention. I chatted with them and found out it was 13,000 for 30 min. But my Japanese is too poor to effectively ask them if I could see the girls be for I decided.

AK: If you want to meet up to monger around, let me know when you will be in Osaka.

[QUOTE=Xslikx]AK: If you want to meet up to monger around, let me know when you will be in Osaka.[/QUOTE]
I work in Osaka, so theoretically, anytime. Weekday evenings probably work best for me though. And I will warn you, walking around with me probably lowers your acceptance rate, heh.

Speaking of, guess where I ended up last night? Yep. Tobita.

Now, Tomo is awesome. She's super-hot, and the sex is mind-blowing. But I have the irrepressable urge to butterfly. Especially in a place like Tobita, where there are so many gorgeous young women on display. As Tomo has told me that her day off is Monday, I thought that would be a good chance to experience something different.

My gameplan was thus: walk around a bit, see if I could get into some other shop. If I couldn't, then head to Tomo's shop. Luckily, I'm on good terms with the mamasans there. I've mentioned a few times that the other girl who works there is also pretty hot. I could go to the shop, ask for Tomo, and when the mamasan says "not here", make a production of having forgot, then say "well, since I'm here..." If for some reason Tomo was there...well, it would still be great sex with a hot girl. I figured it was win-win.

I arrived sometime around 6:45. As Tomo's shop is on the Smoking Hot Blvd, I decided to avoid that a bit, and hit the area around it. My call rate is still not that good - perhaps 5%, but as I'm in the main district, when I do get called its girls that I actually would want to have sex with. I get maybe 2 or 3 calls - the girls are attractive, but not on the level of the other girl from Tomo's shop. I keep looking.

After awhile, I've sort of circled around the same area. I don't want to spend too much time looking, so I just decide to go to Tomo's shop. However, my plan has a snag - the girl isn't there, and the mamasan's absent as well - obviously, the girl is busy, and the mamasan is using the opportunity to take a break. So, now what? As I don't really want to wait around, I keep walking.

I end up on a street perhaps a block away from Tomo's shop. I hear another soft "doozo" - I look inside to see a gorgeous girl. Brightly dyed blond hair, and contacts in her eyes to make them blue. Nice body, nice legs, wonderful, large tits. Definintely the gal type, and someone you'd expect to see in a magazine or in the model industry. I could probably never pull this type of girl outside of Tobita. I've got an invitation, and the girl is incredible - what more does a monger need? I decide on this place and go in. As I'm taking off my shoes, the mamasan quietly asks the girl if this is okay. She passively says "yeah" before heading for the stairs.

She leads me up to her room - its dark by default, and a little messy - as if this was her regular room and she hasn't bothered to clean up. She sits me down and asks about the price. I decide to go conservative with the 11,000 yen for 15 minutes route. She accepts, takes the money, and goes off. She comes back and immediately starts getting undressed. So far, she hasn't been very conversational at all. So I ask for her name - she says Mari. She does the whole "your Japanese is good" thing and I give my usual answers. She says she's been studying English because she wants to visit America one day. I ask where, and her answers are very stock and general. "Oh, you know. Los Angeles. New York." I ask in English if she can speak English, and she responds in Japanese "only a little." Mari, obviously, is not the conversational type.

So, we get to business. Mari undresses, and she is really, really incredible. This is one of the hottest women I will ever get the chance to fuck. Big, perky tits too - I wonder if they're fake? I'll find out soon enough. She has me lie on my back, and she pulls out the tissues with her disinfectant spray to clean off my cock. The very next thing she does is go for the condom - bummer, no BBBJ, but I guess I'm here for other things. Mari isn't very good at BJ's - she's of the "lick at it like a cat playing with yarn" type. Oh well, it does the trick and I get hard. I notice here that this is a typical Japanese condom, which fits me a little tight and isn't exactly comfortable.

Not long after I get hard, Mari asks to switch positions. With her lying on my back, I go after those great tits. They could be real. They felt wonderful. If they're fake, my highest praise to her surgeon. I start to move downstairs, and I feel her hand already moving on defense. I get down to eat her out, and she does indeed stop me, saying that's no good. I ask why, and she starts to explain before just settling on "no good." Oh well. I began to lick her breasts again. She does allow me to finger her. She was pretty dry at first (she didn't bother lubing up?) but after a little finger play, she was naturally wet.

Now I figured it was time to go for it. Unfortunately, the tight condom plus Mari's overall lack of enthusiasm caused me to lose my erection. Guys, you know how it goes - the more you think I HAVE to get it up, the less likely you're able to do it. I continued to suck on her wonderful breasts and finger her. I'm pretty sure she came about twice. I hear the time buzzer in the meantime - man, this is the first time those 15 minutes actually felt short. I ask Mari for a quick pick-me-up BJ, but she points out that time is over.

I would have been highly disappointed/disgusted to leave like this, so I ask if I can change to the 20 minute plan on the fly. She starts saying that I would have to buy another session with her, but I show her that I don't have that much cash on me. She takes 5000 yen and wraps a towel around her to ask the mamasan about the five minute extension thing. She comes back a minute or two later telling me that its okay.

I get on my back again, and she gives me another lick-attack BJ. Again, not a good BJ at all, but it does the trick again. This time, I have her get on top while I'm hard. She does have a nice, tight pussy, so once I'm in, I'm good. She's not bad at the regular grinding, even reaching behind her to play with my balls as she moves. I know if 15 mintues passed that quickly, then 5 are going to zoom right by, so I take control and start pounding her pretty good. She seems to be enjoying it.

After a little cowgirl I tell her to get into missionary. As expected, Mari is the typical lay there and take it type. Oh well, they can't all be sexual blowouts. (Has it been anyone else's experience that the hottest girls tend to be the worst in bed?) I'm giving it to Mari pretty good, and it looks like she's cumming - those blue-contact eyes are rolling in the back of her head, and she's desperately clutching her pillow. I hear the buzzer go off again, so I do my best to ignore the tight condom, concentrate on Mari's beautiful body, and manage to bust my nut. Mari sits up, helps me with the clean up, and is dressed pretty quickly. GFE - non-existant.

After getting dressed, I ask if it would be okay to come again. She says, in a somewhat more energetic and cheeful tone than before, "Yeah, please come". They all say that though. She once again notes my Japanese abilities, and then does something a little unexpected - asks me for my cell email. She'd seen me playing with my cell after coming back from the bathroom break before I think. I tell her okay, and give her the cell so she can directly input her mail address into it. She tells me - twice - to be sure to email her. I promise that I will, and I leave, giving proper thanks to both her and the mamasan.

On my way home, I sent a basic email, just thanking her for the service. She actually responded to me last last night, and we exchanged a few more emails this morning. I'm not really sure where that's going, guess I'll just wait and see.

I will go out and see her again, maybe next week if I can. The sex wasn't that good, but she is really, incredibly hot. I will settle for that. Plus, I'm ashamed of my poor performance, and want to do her properly. I also wonder if Mari will be warmer towards a repeat customer, especially if we keep this email thing up.

I will be visiting Osaka and was wondering if any of you guys could give me directions to tobita. It s only my second time in osaka so any information would be greatly welcomed.

[QUOTE=Davidinjapan]I will be visiting Osaka and was wondering if any of you guys could give me directions to tobita. It s only my second time in osaka so any information would be greatly welcomed.[/QUOTE]

RTFF via the search engine-look for "TOBITA".

AF place I have used on a couple occassions:
[url]http://www.af-sentai.net/gal.php[/url] The hot one at that place said she would not do foreigners.

According to another mongerer:
"The site does say it has a number of cuties, but when I went I had to pay first, and then the choice of 8 I was given only had 1-2 I though attractive. I picked a gal who was supposedly thin, but had actually put on about 20kg since she started working there and was about 60kg in real life. Nice enough, but not exactly a high class place. One poster got me thinking about the nama/naka dashi offered-an AIDS timebomb as he put it..."

Here is a site for light SM: [url]http://www.piass.net/sm/[/url] There are a bunch of SM places around that neighborhood. Piass is pricey, but, particularly in Japan, you get what you pay for.

The girl I had, Misa, did anal, but it was a mess. However, she did one awesome thing, which was totally tie herself up in a traditional Japanese bondage thing, and then all I had to do was the last little bit to finish it up. That was cool.

After meeting up with Mari a few weeks ago, we'd exchanged a few casual and light emails for a few days. She told me she'd been studying English through a tutor. I was sort of hoping that would lead to an arrangement where I'd teach her English in exchanges for a little service, but that never happened.

Anyway, the mailing had been going well, so I decided to drop by Tobita yesterday and pay her a visit. I was hoping that a repeat visit plus our mails would have warmed her up a bit. I mailed her beforehand to ask the name of her shop, which she told me. She also told me she wouldn't start work until 8PM. I thanked her for the info, and asked if it would be okay to drop by. She said she'd love to see me. Looking good so far.

I took my time in going, but I still ended up in Tobita around 7:40. I didn't want to go to Mari's shop too early and be made to wait, so I decided to just take a stroll around a few of the side streets. I got maybe two invites - one, the girl seemed to be in her mid 30's - not bad, nothing I would choose but nothing I'd turn down either. The other invite came as I'd already nearly passed the shop - I couldn't see the girl, and I didn't want to double back to take a look.

Walking around, I discerned a few things about Tobita.

1. I'm not sure if it's just this week or what, but this particular Thursday was really slow. Many of the shops were closed, and there weren't too many guys walking around. I'm not quite sure if this is good or bad for us foreign mongers. More closed shops means less selection, but less guys means that a mamasan might be more inclined to try and invite us.

2. I found a police box sitting right in the middle of the district. A police box! Amazing.

3. I've noticed it before, but a lot of guys go through the district by car before making their choice. Drive-thru mongering. Wow.

I killed time until about 7:55. With the amount of closed shops, I didn't want to risk some other guy getting to Mari before I did, so I went ahead to her shop. I had memorized the location of her shop based off where Tomo's shop is. What I realized now was that both shops are on the same street (the "main" street), with Mari's shop a few blocks ahead of Tomo's. Which is good for finding them, but kind of bad if I want to go to one but not the other. Oh well, if anything, I was happy to have gotten access to two of the shops on the main street.

Despite being early, Mari was already there. The mamasan said "Oh, this guy" as I approached. Japanese can be vague sometimes, so I'm not sure if it was the mamasan remembering me from before, or if Mari had told her I was coming. After a few pleasantries, we headed upstairs.

Again, we get to the pricing right off the bat. Given how quickly the time had passed last time, I opted for the 30 minute course this time for 21,000 yen. Before I could say anything though, Mari asked if I wanted to take it slowly today and suggested the 40 minute course for 31,000. She said she'd give me a 1,000 yen discount. I noticed on the pricing play that 40 minutes included "rotor play", or the use of a vibrator. I'm not a big fan of toys, and I'd already decided on the 30 minutes, so I told her I didn't have enough on me for 40 minutes, and she agreed to 30.

After the money was settled, she came back with the tea and sweets. She was somewhat more talkative this time, but still as cold and aloof as before. I tried talking in English with her, but she barely understood "how was your day today?" I think she should fire her tutor. She then excused herself to go to the bathroom. I KNOW she was gone for more than 5 minutes here, at least. I remember thinking "man, this is taking a while", and at least one full song had played on the radio while she was away. When you're paying for every minute, 5 minutes is a significant chunk. I guess the amount of bathroom time goes up proportional to the amount of time you pay for.

She again undresses and instructs me to do the same. Again, she's very careful to put the condom on before anything else, and although the BJ is better than before, it's still quite lackluster. I notice here that, aside from the condom just being tight, it's also pretty thick, and not a whole lot of feeling gets through. She does the BJ just enough for me to get hard, then suggests we switch positions. I ask if it's okay to kiss her - she grants me a peck on the lips, nothing more. I don't bother asking if I can eat her out again - didn't feel like I'd get a yes. I sucked on her tits while fingering her - she was wet from the start, which suggests that at least part of that 5 minute bathroom break was spent lubing up, but after a little finger action I got some of the natural juices flowing.

When it came time to get started though, I found myself going soft again. The condom was tight and unfeeling, sure, but I think a big part of it was also Mari's apathy. I've had my fair share of cold fish over the years, and there's just nothing exciting about them. I try to stimulate myself, but I notice that the feeling with even that is greatly diminished. Mari suggests I lay down again, so we switch. She again gives me a BJ until I'm hard, then tries to get on top, but I'm not able to stay hard long enough to get in. Talk about frustrating and embarrasing! Mari is patient though, and suggests doggy.

She gets on her knees in front of me, and there's just something about that that overcomes all the obstacles and other stuff, and I rise to the occasion. We go at it in doggy for a little bit, but again I want to enjoy her from the front so I have her lay down. Now that things are working properly, there are no problems. Mari though is about as into it as a blow up doll would be. At one point, she almost caressed my arm, but then stopped and brought her hand back up near her head in Standard Cold Fish Position. It wasn't long before I heard the buzzer - again?! How is this 30 minutes? I know I don't have a lot of time to work with, so I concentrate and finish up. I actually found myself thinking of Tomo towards the end, and how I wished I'd gone to see her instead. Mari kind of looks like she's been fucked good for a second or two, but then rolls over and its back to work as she carefully takes off the condom. I tell her its not a very good condom, and she says its all she has. I ask if it would be okay to bring my own next time, to which she says no problem.

As we get dressed we do talk a little bit more. She asks me about my height and what not, and the usual talk about buying clothes and bumping my head into things. The time's up buzzer goes off at least 2-3 more times as we're getting dressed. She asks me if I like sweets, and again dumps all the little candies from the tray into my hands. I say my thank you's to her and the mamasan on my way out. I notice another dolled-up beauty sitting in the entranceway as I come down the steps - the shops on this street certainly do have quality. I guess this is why Tobita is famous all over Japan. Gentlemen, we should consider ourselves lucky to monger here.

However, one thing I noticed though - I left Mari's shop, and walked a little bit before I noticed I was going in the opposite direction. I doubled back and got on the right street. As I hit that street, I looked at my watch - it was 8:28. I was definintely short-changed on time. I know I didn't get to Mari's shop a minute before 7:55. Even if we start the clock then (not counting the time it takes to take off shoes, go upstairs, and then settle the price), I know Mari took at least 5 minutes in the bathroom, it took us at least 5 minutes to get dressed afterwards (could have been more), and I had been wandering around on the street for at least 5 minutes before checking my watch. That's at least 15 minutes right there, half of the time that I paid for. Contrast this with Tomo's shop, where 20 minutes seems to last forever, and the mamasan is very lenient/forgiving with the buzzer.

So, mongers beware. There are shops that will shortchange you on time.

On my way home, I sent Mari a message thanking her for tonight. This morning, she thanked me in return, saying she likes me a lot because I'm nice, and wants to see me again. I swear, Mail Mari and Actual Mari are like two different people. But the next time I go to Tobita, I'm definintely going to see Tomo. She's just as attractive, the sex is unmeasureably better, and I don't get cheated out of time. I found myself wanting to pay Tomo a visit right after I finished with Mari - walking back to the station I had to fight the urge to turn around and go back several times.

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]On my way home, I sent Mari a message thanking her for tonight. This morning, she thanked me in return, saying she likes me a lot because I'm nice, and wants to see me again. I swear, Mail Mari and Actual Mari are like two different people.[/QUOTE]I know a few hostesses. I'm sure you know a lot about Japan so I hesitate to offer this, but the mail communication (and even invitation) is not all that unusual in this trade, and is more often than not just another marketing tool, a way of generating repeat customers.

Which is not to say she doesn't genuinely like you in some way we may not be able to understand. Once you think of her job, what she does, and how often she does it and to how many guys, breaking it down to the cold bottom line and how to get us in and out makes sense.

Hey Azure Knight,

May I offer this soultion on keeping track of time and keeping them honest.

When I used to visit the booths in Kawasaki and Yokohama, I would always bring a digital timer (available in any 100 yen shop) to confirm that I was getting the time paid for. Before paying the girl, I would repeat the time agreed to in minutes(irregardless of when I popped) so there was no misunderstanding. Then once inside I would show the timer in full view and press start. Some girls would be surprised at my boldness. Nevertheless it worked quite well, espcially with the money grubbing Chinese girls who would always try to short me on my agreed time paid before I used the timer method. From then on, I always got the time I had paid or I left before the time limit because I chose to.

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]irs.

Again, we get to the pricing right off the bat. Given how quickly the time had passed last time, I opted for the 30 minute course this time for 21,000 yen. Before I could say anything though, Mari asked if I wanted to take it slowly today and suggested the 40 minute course for 31,000. She said she'd give me a 1,000 yen discount. I noticed on the pricing play that 40 minutes included "rotor play", or the use of a vibrator. I'm not a big fan of toys, and I'd already decided on the 30 minutes, so I told her I didn't have enough on me for 40 minutes, and she agreed to 30..[/QUOTE]

As usual Azure provides an insightful post. I suspect Mari knows she has him on a hook, and is reeling him in slowly with suggestions for longer courses.

Tobita is great if you can perform on demand and make the 15min finish, but it is easy to see how they make there money. Charging 50,000/hour is damn steep in anybody's book. Chinese estes might be as cheap as 15,000/hr. Korean DH service is about 17,000/hr., AM in Tokyo is 17,500/hr. Soaps range from 15,000-50,000/hr. Of course in Osaka the latter options are not easy for foreigners to partake in.

I have noticed many places increase in price as the time gets extended. If a pink salon has a 30min course is 5,000, why is the 60min 12,000? My guess is that of the 30min, 10 is real action and 20 is prep/post. Of the 60min, you probably get 30-40min of action.

Crikey -

Yeah, I know. Honestly though, the women I experienced who were quite frosty, rarely offered up their email. If they did, the email kinda sorta matched their personas. With Mari, I was just surprised to find her to be quite cold in person, yet portray this energetic and sweet girl through the email. She's good.

Calbts -

A digital timer. That's a pretty good idea. I've never felt outright slighted on time before, but if I go back to Mari's shop again (unlikely) I'll probably take my digital watch with me and make a production of starting it.

Lion -

I wouldn't say Mari's got me. Quite the opposite, I don't think I'll be seeing her for awhile. My next trip out to Tobita will be to see Tomo. What brought me to Mari in the first place was the desire to score another hot girl from that main street, which I did (one more small victory for foreigners). Mission accomplished, so I can go back to Tomo.

Of the 4 different girls I've seen in Tobita so far, only with Mari have I felt slighted on time. Maybe I've just been really lucky so far, but I've never really felt slighted for time in general. In a few pink salons, I've finished early by my choosing, and had the girl remind me I still had time left if I wanted to utilize it. And I swear with Tomo we run way over time.

Maybe its different for other guys, but in my experience with pink salons/fashion health so far, FS doesn't even become an option unless you agree to pay for the most amount of time/the highest amount. As you said, of that hour you only get maybe 30-40 minutes of actual play time. So the way I see it, at Tobita you pay the same price for half the time, but on the plus side you get much, much better quality. Plus, there's usually less time wasting - the girl comes back from the bathroom trip (which usually isn't that long, this time being an exception) and gets right to work.

I'm a cheapskate, and I've never really been tempted to try the 40 mins or more courses at Tobita. But who knows, maybe one day...it seems like no one here has done it yet, might be interesting to see how/if it differs from the standard fare.

I am new to Osaka. All my previous mongering expereince has been in Shanghai, which is a fun city to be in.

I had done a walk around Tobita last week to see what is available and today decided to explore Matsushima Shinchi.

After reading some reports and searching the internet, I finally figured out where Matsushima is and off I went.

Found it alright. There are about 70-80 shops there. Half of them were open at 5 PM. The girls are not as young or beautiful as Tobita but with 20min for 10,000 yen and additional time for shower, its a good deal.

The call rate is not as high as Tobita either but I did get an invite from some couple of young beauties so plan to go there over the weekend again.

Dirctions - Take the chuo line to Kujo station and get out at exit 6. u see a mcdonald. take a u turn away from it and walk on the road for 2-3 mins till u reach hotel tropical, turn right and u are in Matsushima.

Map attached as reference.

KJ

After reading many posts on on this board, I decided to try Tobita on my first of 4 nights in Osaka. My dozo hit rate was about 30% at about 6 pm on a Saturday night. Some of the girls were indeed stunners but others had to be grandmothers. In one case the worker was no doubt older than the mamasan seated next to her display. This must be a Japan thing because I have never seen working girls that old. After walking around the entire district, I found young cutie. Her body was about a 6 and her face an 8. After she took me upstairs to the large tatami room, I noticed she was bit bruised on her legs and arms. I took a 30 minute session. I paid the girl directly but I don’t recall the exact price, but the prices were all listed on a menu. She wiped me off with a toilette sprayed with some disinfectant and then got down to business with a CBJ. She barely stroked my Johnson at all to make him firm enough for the condom. She started in a hurried manner and the entire session continue that that way. She wouldn’t let me do her doggie and she kept looking away from me the entire time. I was put off by the experience so that I finished up well before my 30 minutes expired. After we finished we tried to chat and she was very sweet but I speak no Japanese. This was not the best monger experience but what the heck, I wanted to try Tobita. I suppose I might have had better luck at one of the other shops, but I didn’t bother to go back.

On the second night in Osaka while walking in the Umeda area east of the Osaka railway station, a Taiwanese massage girl talked me into a message. She was young and cute but the services offered at the dimly lit place she took me only included massage. I took her up on it and she did the massage which was just OK. I asked her in Mandarin while she worked my back if there are any girls that could provide full service (zuo ai in Chinese). She said she could take me to such a place. After the massage she took me to place that folks on this board refer to as a Chinese hoteru on the ground floor of a building near a long covered arcade that extends several streets eastward from the Whitey underground mall east of the Osaka station and connected train stations in the Umeda area. If you know this arcade the hoteru is at the very end after the arcade turns into an open lane with similar establishments. I do not know the name of the place.

At any given time there are 6 to 10 girls working. You can see all of their photos on a menu and the girls who are working are indicated with an arrow. If there are not many customers all the girls sit on a sofa and you can inspect all of the ladies in the flesh at one time. The price is 12000 for 60 minutes of BBBJ and full serve. The first night I tried it I paid more than the 12000 but I was too drunk too figure out why I charged more. On my subsequent visits, I paid the 12000. The girls are all 7-9 and my first pick was a tall slim 9 from northeastern China but I don’t recall her name. The girls here are all Chinese but speak Japanese well enough. Don’t expect any to know English other than the obligatory " Oooh you big! "

The place consists of 2 or 3 large rooms that are sub-divided with thin dividers that are tall enough for visual privacy but do not reach the ceiling. As far as sound, you can here all the other sessions going on around you. Each larger room has 1 or 2 showers. The lady leads you first to you cubicle where you both undress. There’s a locker in each cubicle. The lady showers you and then back to the cubicle where she starts with a quick back massage, before going down for a some BB head for the first course and then the rest. My girl provided great service but I had way to muck to drink and couldn’t come, but not for lack of trying on the part of my girl. I went back the next night in much better condition and picked a girl named Ai, also from Northeastern China, but she normally lives in Guangzhou (no doubt working in the trade). We connected immediately. If you have never every sampled a Harbin girl, I highly recommend it. Ai was not tall but had a great body and an truly outstanding rack. Her BBBJ was fantastic and then we got down to it, but not before eating her delightful pussy. The experience was total GFE including DFK and eventually I did her in every conceivable position possible within the confines of a 2X3 meter cubicle. My favorite was turning perpendicular to the small bed and pounding her senseless while her head banged against the flimsy wall. She loved it and let out screams of joy. Although I never felt rushed she did inform me of the time about ten minutes before the 60 minutes were up so I took that as my cue to finfish up. I fished off French between here fabulous breasts and delivered my load all over here neck and shoulders but not on her face or in her mouth. I think CIM probably would be fine here but I didn’t try it. On the way to shower, she said I stretched her out so that now her pussy was not tight enough for the Japanese clientele. We had a good laugh.

The next and final night in Osaka, I went back to see Ai again. It was even better. I wish I had more time in Osaka. I would take her out. Alas, it was not to be. She works seven nights a week anyway. She did give me her phone number in Guangzhou. I live in Hong Kong so the next time I am there I’ll definitely hook up with her.

All in all, this place was a good experience in Japan. In Shinjuku, I have paid more than double to take Chinese hostess girls back to my hotel for a short time. These girls were just as pretty and for just over US$100 a pop, I think it was a pretty good deal for Japan.

Directions: The easiest way to find this place is to emerge from the Whitey underground shopping mall at the very east end from the NE exit and walk east along the major avenue. Pass a few blocks and you will come to a Lawson convenience store on the north side of this avenue which has a small parking area. Go left on the small street immediately before Lawson and walk until you see a small walled shrine on your right. Go left on to a small lane and the place is the ground floor establishment which pink colored signs. I have provided a map. Follow the red lines.

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Thanks for the excellent report, Grassy Knoll! Sorry to hear that your Tobita experience wasn't that good - sometimes I guess its just luck of the draw.

I think you've sold me on the Chinese Hoteru. I'd like to give it a try myself, so your map will come in handy.

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]This place is fun if you like to look, which I don't. [url]http://www.apollo-1bld.com/Tel_0120081181.html[/url] However, if you are drunk it is much better. We went for a birthday party last month, and we are going again tomorrow, so if you want to join us, let me know.

Last month we went to the fifth floor and got an all-you-can-drink, 2 hour for ¥7,000. We were trashed, and the second party at the Royal Host was, as my office's intern put it: "bowling shoe ugly".

Tomorrow we have another ¥7,000 all-you-can-drink, NO TIME LIMIT deal. I explained to the guy that we are some serious drinkers, and he said not to worry. Admittedly, they make their money on the dances. Plus the booze is god awful cheap.

Ciao for now,

Mak[/QUOTE]Hi Mak,

Unlike you, I enjoy a good watch. Can you tell me more about this place/places? The booze is cheap, but they make it up in dances. Do you mean they expect a bunch of tips, or are you paying for lap dances?

Any and all info is appreciated.

Thanks,

Drew

Grassy Knoll,

Thanks for the report! I've never ventured around that part of Umeda before but it sounds like I need to give 'er a go at least once! Were they apprehensive about servicing foreigners there at all?

I went to the Chinese Hoteru Grassy Knoll reported about last night.

His directions are very accurate, but me being an idiot I got a bit lost. I can provide a few more specific details though. Make sure you go through the East Mall of the Whitey underground shopping complex. Continue traveling through the East Mall until you get to an rounded open area with a water fountain in the middle. There are several exits here - you'll want to take the one that leads out to Ogimachi Street. I think it's either exit 11 or 14.

I caught the name of the place, but it's written in all kanji, so unless you speak Japanese or Chinese that doesn't really help you. It does say "Este 1F" in katakana though. After you turn left on the street across from the walled shrine, the building is on the right. Go in, and there's a little hallway/open space with an elevator. There's another hallway to the right of elevator, which leads to the reception area. I'm pretty sure it's one of, if not the only shop with a reception area on the ground floor, as the rest seem to be either in the basement, or on higher floors.

I came down the hall, and I spotted two guys, who were quick to welcome me in. If I get the welcome treatment with no hesistation, then I'm pretty sure any foreigner would. I hadn't even displayed any Japanese language ability yet. One guy lead me to a small couch, and pointed out the prices. I opted for the 60 min course for 12,000 yen. He came back with a board with pictures of the girls on it. All of them except for 2 were available, and he pointed out the ones that were ready to go immediately. I tried taking my time looking at the picture - read the reality behind the airbrushing and all. I notice that Ai is available - I was tempted to choose her given GK's positive review. After a minute or so, the guy asked if I wanted to look at the girls directly, so I agreed to that and he led me into the small little lobby-type area.

Well, the girls were VERY excited to see me, and there was really only one question on their minds - is he big? They were speaking in mixes of Japanese and Chinese, but even the Chinese parts I could tell that's where the conversation was headed. My male receptionist friend puts his hand on my crotch to try and determine what I'm packing. Hey, I most certainly didn't come here for that! I take a small step backwards and tell them that it's a little embarrassing, and of course I'm not packing any major heat at the moment. The girls now notice I can communicate in Japanese, which gets them even more worked up.

Of course, they didn't quite match the pictures, but there were still some decent looking women. Nothing that matches Tobita of course, but not at all bad. A few girls on the couch throw me occasional discreet smiles. One girl in the middle is very active, and very interested in my possible size. She gets up and asks me to my face how big, with finger gestures. With her so interseted, I ask if she'd like to see it in person. She says "is that okay?" and actually unzips my pants then and there are starts to feel around in there. Wow, I've never had this kind of thing happen in Japan before. The other girls say they want to see, and the girl liberally feeling around in my pants asks if it's okay to show everybody. Talk about having to perform under pressure! I again tell her that its embarrasing. The receptionist guy asks me to make my selection, so I pick the girl with her hand down my pants, hoping that her energy and interest here will carry over into the bedroom.

She takes me to the elevator, and we go up to the third floor. I ask for her name - she says it's Koko. She asks if she's really okay, because everyone always says she's the most scary. I tell her I think she's cute, and she tells me that I'm a "gentle man". The setup is exactly how GK described it. Koko lead me to one of the small partitioned rooms, and I noticed that there was another guy in the room next to us, but luckily he was finishing up. It didn't seem like there was anyone else there, so luckily I wasn't going to have to worry about my session being heard, or hearing anyone else's.

After the session, I layed face-down on the bed and Koko gave me a back massage. It was just okay. I'll give her credit for putting a little muscle into it, a lot of girls don't really do that. After a few minutes she had me roll over, and she started a BJ. She was very discreet about putting the condom on, so much so that I almost didn't notice. CBJ, but oh well, didn't come here for the BJ I guess. She stops at just enough for me to get hard, then she has us trade so that she's lying on her back. Rather than get right to it, I want to suck on her breasts, perhaps even DATY, but Koko pushes me down and away. She puts her legs up and crosses her arms in front of her body, which really doesn't let me do anything. With no other options, I get right to work.

Now, I've barely just started when Koko says "Oh, I'm gonna come. You come too. Let's come together." I dunno what kind of trigger-fingers she regularly deals with, but it's gonna take a little more than a few pumps to get me even close to coming. I tell her this, but after maybe a minute, she repeats - "Can I come? You come too - let's do it together." In fact, she said this at repeating 30 second intervals, and it was really quite annoying.

Koko kept her arms crossed in front of her body, and any attempts to kiss, lick, or suck anything were met with an arm block. She also reached down and grabbed my cock, sort of limiting how much was going into her. I wondered if I was too big for her, and asked if she was okay. She said she was fine, and that it felt good. And, of course, repeated her line - "Can I come? You come too - let's come together okay?" With the tiny room and the small single bed, positioning was difficult. Also, Koko kept her body in awkward positions, which wasn't sexy and a bit of a turn-off. Despite this, I powered through and managed to jizz.

Koko gave me a quick clean up with the tissues, and then lead me back to the showers. I noticed she wasn't quite as energetic/conversational as before. I wondered again if I had been too big for her - she'd made some interesting faces during the act. She again assured me she was fine. I sort of think she was lying about that though. After showering and cleaning up, she lead me back to the elevator. She thanked me for coming and asked me to come back again - the usual fare. On my way out I checked the time - certainly not 60 minutes, but that was fine - I'd had two showers, got off, and didn't feel rushed.

Overall - I like that this place is very accepting of foreigners, the girls aren't half-bad, and the prices are decent. Koko was terrible though. I'd like to go back and give it another shot, but definintely with another girl. Maybe I'll try out one of the girls who discreetly smiled at me from the couch. It'll be interesting to see how they react to me the second time - I wonder what Koko said about our session? Too big? Too much time? I'll find out next time.

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]I went to the Chinese Hoteru Grassy Knoll reported about last night.

"Can I come? You come too - let's come together okay?" On my way out I checked the time - certainly not 60 minutes, but that was fine - I'd had two showers, got off, and didn't feel rushed.

Overall - I like that this place is very accepting of foreigners, the girls aren't half-bad, and the prices are decent. Koko was terrible though. [/QUOTE]

Sounds typical of the Chinese places. They are all great actors, but you know at the end of the day they are there to get paid for the least amount of time possible.

Still, there are definately girls who do get into it, and when you find one it is well worth the reasonible 12,000!

I have been to a place that offered a longer course for 18,000. What I wonder is that if you are guarenteed 2 shots, and whether you'll still get the same rush out the door or not...

AK: Were you dressed in a dark gray or brown suit, carrying a black bag and coming toward the place from the direction of Nakazaki-chou? Probably not, but I was in that area last night as well and I don't see to many brothers in that neck of the woods.

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]I went to the Chinese Hoteru Grassy Knoll reported about last night.

His directions are very accurate, but me being an idiot I got a bit lost. I can provide a few more specific details though. Make sure you go through the East Mall of the Whitey underground shopping complex. Continue traveling through the East Mall until you get to an rounded open area with a water fountain in the middle. There are several exits here - you'll want to take the one that leads out to Ogimachi Street. I think it's either exit 11 or 14..[/QUOTE]Azure Knight,

Your description of the place sounds very accurate along with the enthusiam of the girls, but I never left the ground floor so I'm not sure if it's the same. I forgot to mention that on the last night I visited, a 55+ white guy came when I was leaving and was greeted warmly so this place is definately gaijin-friendly. I'm back in HK now where comparable service, if you know where to look, is readily available half the price. I guess with being in Japan and drooling over all the outstanding tail on the street, I had to find some release.

Happy hunting,

GK

Lion,

I'm pretty much committed to the basic price now. I think that extra time just ends up being used for the girl's prep time and clean-up. As long as I can do what I came for in the allotted time, I'll stick with that.

Xslikx,

Probably wasn't me. I was there Wednesday night. Also, I wasn't wearing a suit or carrying a bag. Hey, who's the other brother lurking this board! Come out and say what's up.

Grassy Knoll,

Unfortunately, those prices are standard for us. Low, even. Mongering in Japan is just not cheap. The trade-off is that freebies are easier though, if you can manage it.

The good is that despite identifying me as a non-native speaker they said they would send me the girl I requested. They said something about size is a worry, and that Europeans and Americans were OK (black Americans?).

The bad is that it took an hour for a callback, then half an hour for delivery. No FS, but fun anyway and managed 2 rounds.

Cost was 26,000/100min. Should have been 22,000 since I had a coupon. They said that since I requested the girl, the coupon was out and the name fee was in-although it turned out the girl only adopted the name I gave them and wasn't the same gal on the website. These covered up facial shots make it damn hard to tell.

She was about 19-20, with a killer bod with E cups and all sorts of tatoos.

One problem with these teens though is there is nothing to talk about during the recovery time. Makes me want to rethink my preferred age range.

I finally tried Freajia... As I said in a previous post, the first time I tried to find it, I ended in the shop that is in front of it. Sadly I didnt read the report of Stew2 [post]594254[/post] so I couldn't figure out that it was the last door on the left.

Well, the one I went was a kinda usual price one. It was called something like Nabeyama Clinic (at least that was the card I received). If you go to Diamond Bld, 4f and just right out of the elevator you will see their office. There are two guys behind a counter, and I talked to the one on the left. I started to figure out it was not Freajia when I looked to the prices. It was something like 14000yen for 60min, without Hotel fare. The girls were nice, though, but my budget was kinda small and I was thinking about just to leave when the counter guy told me that there was an offer for a girl that just started that day. It was 12000yen including hotel fare, and the girl didnt look so bad (it was not so clear keitai picture). I choosed her, and they made me wait in the room next to the office (just in front of Freajia!!). There was another guy, and they had a TV and a beverage machine. When my turn came, they send me to the elevator and told me the girl will wait for me in the second floor.

I got in and meet her as told. She took me to a small hotel just one block away (I later found out that also Freajia girls take you there too). We entered, I payed the room, and we got into bussiness. No FS, but it was pretty much GFE. It really seemed to be her first time, since she forgot at first to call the office to tell she started, and also forgot to lock the door (another couple almost entered, was kinda funny and scary at the same time). We started with some kissing and went down, we took a shower then, more kissing on the bed and she did a pretty good BBBJ. Some chatting while hugging her, time is up, and got dressed. When we were leaving, she said it was nice, please come back again and told me by mistake her real name. It was kinda nice experience, but really wanted to try Freajia... and I did but I will write about it in another post.

BTW, I mentioned before a Strip Club I went with a friend in Namba. [post]634866[/post] . It is Show Pub Hip ([url]http://www.showpub-hip.com/[/url]). Prices are in the web site. As I said, it had really sexy girls, and if you go early maybe it is not so expensive. Gaijin Friendly. Could be a nice please to do a meeting of the usual mongers in this Thread.

Good luck!

Sorry for posting twice, but I just found the card I received from Freajia. As Stew2 mentioned, it is in the last door on the left. The door is closed, and outside has another Kanji name. Just get inside, and (I don't know why) the sign of Freajia is next to the door. It is a very small place, and the counter is right after the door. I think it explains partly why it is so cheap.

The guy was very nice, and when I told him last time I entered by mistake to the other store, he told me that prices are really different. He just proceeded to tell me the prices and the offer they had for 60min plus Hotel (8900yen). It was before 7pm, so it was ok. I also took the shimei, and although I saw a kinda nice girl, I choosed another that looked like gal type (Sae). I never had a gal in Japan, so I though it could be nice, but I should have looked more carefully the age (29). Well, I waited in a small room next to the counter and she was ready in less than 5min.

She was definetively not like in the picture. Short hair, a bit fatty (long one and younger in the pic) and definetively taller than I expected (1.68m, and I am 1.64m). Well, I was hoping at least she may have a nice rack. She took me to the same hotel from the other shop I went and payed the room.

This time it was really small room. Only place for the bed (it was enclosed in the walls), and bath. She was talkative. She told me she was from Okayama, and just got separated, while she was getting undressed. Not so nice body, actually (I am really a boob guy), so I kinda get dissapointed, but anyway... I give it a try. We went to the shower, brush teeth, and then got into action.

She asked me what I like the most, being done or doing it, so I told her to give it a try on both. Some kissing, I went down (hard with the walls of the room), and then tried a 69. She had a pretty good technique (she told me that she was on this job about a year), BBBJ, finished, and shower again.

I don't think it was a bad experience, but I expected a sexier girl. She was a 4-5 in my list, definetively not the girl I would Nampa around. Next time I would like to try Mami since I saw her in the website. Freajia is kinda nice place if you like BJ, but I really prefer FS. I definetively will try that Chinese place.

Good luck!

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I was in Osaka earlier in the month of oct. When I first walked around saw a lot of old, chubby, and not so good looking women. I was wondering please tell me there has got to more and this must be the bad area, finally I found an area where the girls were really good looking. Don't know if this was the good area people were talking about. It was the weekend that I went- and was as you folks put getting a 95%+ call rate-so many to chose from so little time and money. Anyway chose a really hot chick on two seperate occasions-but as has been my experience girls that are really hot don't really put out.

It was nice to do really hot looking girls, but the ones that get my repeat business or loyalty are the ones that are GFE and enthusiastic.

BTW-a question the streets that had the hot girls that I saw had a rather large grandfather like clock at the end of the one street. Is this the area where the hot ones are supposed to be? Or is it another location that I missed?

If I ever muster up the time and money and maybe a pal to take trip back to Japan-maybe I can hook up with senior moner like AK and others.

But just wanted to thank the vets-wish I had the guns to try other areas, but wanted to play tourist to when not working.

Sorry for the delay. You are welcome to PM me if I don't answer quickly.

Your questions seem pretty obvious. Have you ever been in a strip bar where they don't expect tips? There is no pressure for tips, and even if you don't tip there is a lot of mashing your face in their boobs, touching, etc.

Of course you pay for lap dances. Where in the world are lap dances free? My first and last was not worth the money my buddy paid for it for my birthday. (I suppose that is kind of a free lap dance.)

We are going again Friday, November 16 for a buddy's Sayonara party, if you want to join us. The different bars got together, and ceased the all you can drink, but they still have a special drink/entry price of ¥7,000 for five beers and entry for 10 or more.

Ciao for now,
Mak

[QUOTE=Drewtothedew2]Hi Mak,

Unlike you, I enjoy a good watch. Can you tell me more about this place/places? The booze is cheap, but they make it up in dances. Do you mean they expect a bunch of tips, or are you paying for lap dances?

Any and all info is appreciated.

Thanks,

Drew[/QUOTE]

The good streets are the two or three that run just parallel to the shopping arcade. If you take a cab from the station, ask for Tobita Shinchi. When you get out of the cab, keep walking down the street perpindicular from the cab on the passenger's side. The arcade is about three streets down.

I prefer the day time, since the crowds are less, and I think the women are hotter, but less places are open. It is only a few stops on the subway from work, so I can make it down there and back within the lunch hour. Puts a sparkle on the rest of the work day.

Mak

[QUOTE=Crouching Tiger]I was in Osaka earlier in the month of oct. When I first walked around saw a lot of old, chubby, and not so good looking women. I was wondering please tell me there has got to more and this must be the bad area, finally I found an area where the girls were really good looking. Don't know if this was the good area people were talking about. It was the weekend that I went- and was as you folks put getting a 95%+ call rate-so many to chose from so little time and money. Anyway chose a really hot chick on two seperate occasions-but as has been my experience girls that are really hot don't really put out.

It was nice to do really hot looking girls, but the ones that get my repeat business or loyalty are the ones that are GFE and enthusiastic.

BTW-a question the streets that had the hot girls that I saw had a rather large grandfather like clock at the end of the one street. Is this the area where the hot ones are supposed to be? Or is it another location that I missed?

If I ever muster up the time and money and maybe a pal to take trip back to Japan-maybe I can hook up with senior moner like AK and others.

But just wanted to thank the vets-wish I had the guns to try other areas, but wanted to play tourist to when not working.[/QUOTE]

Typical Chinese este, but the price is pretty good, around ¥11,000 for an hour. Foreigner friendly. [url]http://www.mangekyou-esute.com/[/url] I won't be going back, because prefer Japanese, and Tobita where you can window shop.

Mak

Sorry for the barrage of reports, but I have been procrastinating to get these up here. Club Doma is a very fun, s/m bar in Kobe. [url]http://www.rmg.ne.jp/domap/pol.html[/url] The girls are a laugh, and they have good parties at other locations. There is almost always a foreigner or two in there. After all, this is foreigner friendly Kobe.

Just up the street, there is a very cool hotel with a fun s/m room: [url]http://www.renaissa.net/access/access.html[/url] #603 I think. As with most love hotels, joining as a member will be worth it if you plan to take full advantage of your stay, e.g. eat, drink. Also, this place throws in a free costume! It comes dry cleaned, and they have all the standard ones.

Anybody do any mongering in the Yanagi area of Kobe? My gf always tells me not to go there and giggles away, so it must be good.

Regards,
Mak

I went to this place called "Kinbana" - think the kanji for gold and flower - the other day after a bit of a drink with some coworkers. They left early to go BACK to work (they were really busy for some reason), leaving me alone in the shady part of Umeda around Doyamamachi (think close to Umeda station, behind the Tsutaya building).

I needed to get a release so I looked around for some estes and found this place. I forgot all of the prices off hand except for mine, which was 60 minutes for 15,000 yen. The price is actually 13,000 yen for 60 minutes, but once you go and meet the girl inside she asks you if you want the "full service" and asks you for an extra 2,000 yen. Not a bad hit, I guess.

Like other places the 60 minutes was basically 40 minutes playing around/fucking and the rest of the time was a massage/shower. That night I got this Chinese girl named Riri who was dressed up in this very sexy china doll dress. Her head-giving tech wasn't all that great but she rode me like a champ and loved it when I scooped her up into my arms and started doing her upright.

The address for the place is here:
Osaka-shi, Kita-ku, Doyama-machi 11-2
06-6367-5957
Cosmo Plaza 3rd floor

In the same building there are a bunch of other este places that probably offer similar services but I haven't gone. Maybe some of my esteemed colleagues can TOFTT? :)

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[QUOTE=Saint Of Killers]The address for the place is here:
Osaka-shi, Kita-ku, Doyama-machi 11-2
06-6367-5957
Cosmo Plaza 3rd floor

In the same building there are a bunch of other este places that probably offer similar services but I haven't gone. Maybe some of my esteemed colleagues can TOFTT? :)

[/QUOTE]

I take it this Chinese place is not likely to have a website?


Speaking of TOFTT. Asian Mystique has 3 gals now on offer in Kansai, so any locals who have ignored AM due to the fact they were in Kanto should take another look (and report back of course!).

Indeed, I've heard of AM from occasional glances at the Tokyo board. I'm guessing that the Osaka girls go for the same rate as the Tokyo girls? Still though, that's 35,000 yen for up to two hours. I think I'll stick to Tobita for now, but if some other mongers wanna give it a try I'd love to hear about it.

Oh, and while I'm thinking about it - I was browsing the keitai deai site Star-Beach late one night. I replied to a few female posts that said they had a car and were willing to travel. A reply came back - for delivery health. I didn't want deliheru that night, but curious I replied back to one. I said that I was foreign and asked if that was okay. The girl didn't seem to mind. So for you guys wanting to try out deliheru but not confident of your phone Japanese, here's a possible option.

I was RTFF'ing for some love hotel info and found two options that used to get rave reviews, but it seems nobody talks about them anymore - Club Coco, and Gals Network for DH. Is nobody really using these anymore? I'm a bit curious, especially since they seemed to be really popular just a few years ago.

I checked this place out recently: [url]http://www.d-ress.net/top.php[/url] I went to the Nara shop. They say it is "play" only, no honban, but my girl, Manami, did FS.

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]I checked this place out recently: [url]http://www.d-ress.net/top.php[/url] I went to the Nara shop. They say it is "play" only, no honban, but my girl, Manami, did FS.[/QUOTE]

Did that require a "tip" as an incentive?

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]I was RTFF'ing for some love hotel info and found two options that used to get rave reviews, but it seems nobody talks about them anymore - Club Coco, and Gals Network for DH. Is nobody really using these anymore? I'm a bit curious, especially since they seemed to be really popular just a few years ago.[/QUOTE]

I used the Kyoto Gals Network recently (see report). They tend to be slow in finding a girl for you, and there are a lot of hidden costs.

Cocos used to have a pink salon, but now it is Hotel Health in Namba, and hit-or-miss as to whether the girls working will do gaijin. Not sure about Sakai shop.

No, it did not, but I will try to remember to try that in the future if necessary. However, I generally do not patronize places unless they tell me they are FS.

Originally, I asked the guy on the phone in Japanese if it was FS, (honban). He said yes. The driver picked me up in front of a convenience store, and she was in the car, so we went to the hotel, which was a bit out of town.

While we are in the bath, she said it was not FS. I got out of the bath, called the guy back, and he said he thought I asked him if it was tonight (konban), not FS. So I said, OK, and hung up the phone.

So we did our business, and she said she would like to date me outside of work, and we exchanged contact info. On the way out of the hotel for the guy to pick us up, take me to the station, and her to the next gig, she said a different guy from the driver who brought us would be taking us back.

There were three guys waiting there. At first I thought nothing of it, but then I realized they were sizing up the situation, perhaps looking for a signal from her to see if I had gotten rough. I had not been rough. Either she did not give any signal, or they were confident there was no problem, so the two guys took off in their own vehicles, and the driver took me to the station, and she rode along.

Adventures in Japan.

[QUOTE=Lion]Did that require a "tip" as an incentive?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info, Lion. I may go back and give the Chinese hotel health place another shot, I think I just picked the wrong girl my last time. I've never used delivery health though, so I'd like to give that a try at least once, and I do miss love hotels.

I hope to give DH a try next week perhaps. I've never used it before though, so I'm not sure how it works for love hotels. You meet the girl/a scout guy beforehand in a pre-arranged location, right? And then go off to the love hotel. As far as I can tell at least.

Normally, you do not meet the driver in advance. I just did that because I knew where the shop was, and I did not know any hotels in the area. Also, I recommend you just call up and request they come to your place if you can. Love hotels are fun, but it is also fun to have them back at your place. Let us know what company you use, and if you recommend it.

Mak

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]Thanks for the info, Lion. I may go back and give the Chinese hotel health place another shot, I think I just picked the wrong girl my last time. I've never used delivery health though, so I'd like to give that a try at least once, and I do miss love hotels.

I hope to give DH a try next week perhaps. I've never used it before though, so I'm not sure how it works for love hotels. You meet the girl/a scout guy beforehand in a pre-arranged location, right? And then go off to the love hotel. As far as I can tell at least.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I can't have any DH girls come to my place for one very big and indisputable reason.

I RTFF'd and it seemed like the most common thing to do was to already be in the love hotel and have the girl meet you in the room. That's fine and all, but I often hear reports of the girl running late, and that only sends the LH meter running up. Also, people seemed divided on whether or not to be up front about being foreign - be honest and don't scam the place, or tastefully leave that out in the conversation with the scout and let the girl decide for herself.

I may give it a try this weekend or next week. I'll be sure to report anything that's report worthy.

I'll be staying in a business hotel in Kayabacho on my next trip to Tokyo and was wondering about using a love hotel instead of my room. Are there any real advantages to a love hotel and whats the price for a decent one? Are there any love hotels in the Kayabacho area and how can I find them? Thanks for any help offered.

Perhaps you are aware of this, but Tokyo is not in Kansai. That is the other forum, but finding a love hotel in Japan is pretty much the same everywhere.

They are gaudy, flashy buildings, and they have the prices for the rooms and the length of stay on signs in front. There are also a few web sites for finding love hotels. I have found this one useful in the past: [url]http://www.love-hotels.jp/[/url] but if you don't read Japanese, it will require a lot of copying and pasting to a translation web site such as this one on Y! [url]http://honyaku.yahoo.co.jp/[/url]

Another easy way, is to just get in a cab, and ask the driver for a love hotel. You can even ask him how much to the love hotel by pointing at the meter, etc., but all this depends on the drivers willingness to cooperate. The word for love hotel in Japanese is similar to English: rabu hoteru.

If you PM me, I will send you my mobile phone number, and if you have a mobile, you can call me, and just hand the phone to the driver. If you buy a prepaid phone in Japan, get a Softbank one because you can charge them on-line. However, the prepaid phones, maybe just Softbank prepaids, are hard to find, and recently the only place I have found prepaid Softbank phones is at the airport, so I would buy one when you arrive, if you can. I think the phone is about ¥8,000, and a prepaid card is ¥4,000. Well worth the investment.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Logan6663]I'll be staying in a business hotel in Kayabacho on my next trip to Tokyo and was wondering about using a love hotel instead of my room. Are there any real advantages to a love hotel and whats the price for a decent one? Are there any love hotels in the Kayabacho area and how can I find them? Thanks for any help offered.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]Actually, I can't have any DH girls come to my place for one very big and indisputable reason.

I RTFF'd and it seemed like the most common thing to do was to already be in the love hotel and have the girl meet you in the room. That's fine and all, but I often hear reports of the girl running late, and that only sends the LH meter running up. Also, people seemed divided on whether or not to be up front about being foreign - be honest and don't scam the place, or tastefully leave that out in the conversation with the scout and let the girl decide for herself.

I may give it a try this weekend or next week. I'll be sure to report anything that's report worthy.[/QUOTE]Love hotels are now mostly automated and the door locks behind you when you go in, so having her meet you in the room won't work. You have to meet somewhere outside and go in together. DH outfits keep blacklists and share info with other agencies, so I'd go the 'be upfront and honest' about your nationality and colour. Even if you never use a DH again, be mindful your fellow punters may want to.

[quote=mak daddy]no, it did not, but i will try to remember to try that in the future if necessary. however, i generally do not patronize places unless they tell me they are fs.

originally, i asked the guy on the phone in japanese if it was fs, (honban). he said yes. the driver picked me up in front of a convenience store, and she was in the car, so we went to the hotel, which was a bit out of town.

while we are in the bath, she said it was not fs. i got out of the bath, called the guy back, and he said he thought i asked him if it was tonight (konban), not fs. so i said, ok, and hung up the phone.

so we did our business, and she said she would like to date me outside of work, and we exchanged contact info. on the way out of the hotel for the guy to pick us up, take me to the station, and her to the next gig, she said a different guy from the driver who brought us would be taking us back.

there were three guys waiting there. at first i thought nothing of it, but then i realized they were sizing up the situation, perhaps looking for a signal from her to see if i had gotten rough. i had not been rough. either she did not give any signal, or they were confident there was no problem, so the two guys took off in their own vehicles, and the driver took me to the station, and she rode along.

adventures in japan.[/quote]

that sounds different than any dh experience i've had, but i am always waiting in the room.

i have wondered what would happen if it "slipped in" during a sumata. of course i have a jimihat ready at all times, and i usually just show the girl and ask if it is ok. you got to figure some guys don't ask, and then are forced to cough up an extra [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] fee afterward. i imagine there is a board in japanese where they discuss this kind of thing.

so far my batting percentage isn't that high, as i am usually waiting for them to counter with a price and only a few have.

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]Actually, I can't have any DH girls come to my place for one very big and indisputable reason.

I RTFF'd and it seemed like the most common thing to do was to already be in the love hotel and have the girl meet you in the room. That's fine and all, but I often hear reports of the girl running late, and that only sends the LH meter running up. Also, people seemed divided on whether or not to be up front about being foreign - be honest and don't scam the place, or tastefully leave that out in the conversation with the scout and let the girl decide for herself.

I may give it a try this weekend or next week. I'll be sure to report anything that's report worthy.[/QUOTE]

Find a LH place with a mid-day rate for 2-3 hours to be on the safe side. Take a book...although some do deliver within 30 minutes if the girl is ready and not far away.

Print out a long list of DH from [url]http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/[/url] as a backup plan in case they catch your accent. I would say don't tell them your foreign and leave it up to the girl at the door.

I don't think people should be encouraged to discriminate, and by telling them your race, you are tacitly suggesting that racial discrimination is acceptable. Also, a lot of women in Japan will go with a foreigner if you don't make a big deal about it. If you force them to make a decision, they will say no, but if you treat it as though it is not a big deal, they will be more inclined to treat it that way.

I find only about 20% of the rooms to be automated, but most of the people on this board seem to agree with you. I tend to stick to places with less foreigners, so that may be the difference.

[QUOTE=The Special One]Love hotels are now mostly automated and the door locks behind you when you go in, so having her meet you in the room won't work. You have to meet somewhere outside and go in together. DH outfits keep blacklists and share info with other agencies, so I'd go the 'be upfront and honest' about your nationality and colour. Even if you never use a DH again, be mindful your fellow punters may want to.[/QUOTE]

good site, thanks for that

[QUOTE=Lion]Print out a long list of DH from [url]http://www.fuzoku-townpage.com/[/url] as a backup plan in case they catch your accent. I would say don't tell them your foreign and leave it up to the girl at the door.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]Perhaps you are aware of this, but Tokyo is not in Kansai. That is the other forum, but finding a love hotel in Japan is pretty much the same everywhere.

They are gaudy, flashy buildings, and they have the prices for the rooms and the length of stay on signs in front. There are also a few web sites for finding love hotels. I have found this one useful in the past: [url]http://www.love-hotels.jp/[/url] but if you don't read Japanese, it will require a lot of copying and pasting to a translation web site such as this one on Y! [url]http://honyaku.yahoo.co.jp/[/url]

Another easy way, is to just get in a cab, and ask the driver for a love hotel. You can even ask him how much to the love hotel by pointing at the meter, etc., but all this depends on the drivers willingness to cooperate. The word for love hotel in Japanese is similar to English: rabu hoteru.

If you PM me, I will send you my mobile phone number, and if you have a mobile, you can call me, and just hand the phone to the driver. If you buy a prepaid phone in Japan, get a Softbank one because you can charge them on-line. However, the prepaid phones, maybe just Softbank prepaids, are hard to find, and recently the only place I have found prepaid Softbank phones is at the airport, so I would buy one when you arrive, if you can. I think the phone is about ¥8,000, and a prepaid card is ¥4,000. Well worth the investment.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]Hey Mak. Yeah I realized I posted in the wrong forum right afterwards. Sorry bout that. Thanks for the info on hotels. Probably have to ask AM about one thats close to my hotel. I can have the girl go to my regular room but the damn bed sucks.

I tried it both ways. The first delivery health, Korean, I didn't tell my race and the girl showed up, looked at me and said no way. I tried to convince her but she was not interested. I wasted a short term stay in a hotel on that girl. (BTW I am quite ordinary looking)

I was quite motivated, (horny) so I went to a second hotel and called another DH. The second place also Korean, I told them I was gaijin. I asked specifically if it was ok. They said it was and a girl showed up. She also was surprised when she saw me and at first was not willing to go through with it. Finally she relented, lay down and said you can put it in if you want, but no kissing, no touching of the breasts. I was so desperate I did but of course it was an awful experience. I tried to make something of it but there is nothing like having sex with someone who obviously doesn't want to. I felt like crap stopped and told her it was the worst experience I had ever had with her profession. I suggested she find a different line of work. She assured me she was fine with Japanese. I told her the way she was treating me is the way that Koreans are often treated by Japanese. She didn't pick up on the irony.

She told me she would pay for the hotel room because I was her first customer of the day and it is bad luck to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] of the first customer of the day.

This experience soured me o the whole DH industry.

Osaka3210,

Sorry to hear about your disappointing experiences. If I may ask, what race are you? Also, it sounds like you have pretty good Japanese skills at least.

I am white.

I finally gave delivery health a try. I decided to try Gals Network first as they seem to be foreigner friendly. Checking their website, most girls didn't start working until 8PM. I picked out 4 girls I liked, and called around 7:15. I requested Yayoi, my first choice, for 8:30. I gave them the name of a love hotel I was going to go to - the guy asked which room I was in, but I told him I hadn't actually gone in yet. He said that was fine and to call back when I did get the room.

Gals Network had a special deal - 60 minutes for 17,000 yen, with the price of the love hotel included. I asked about this, but the deal only works with a hotel they pick out. I didn't want to risk them picking some place I had no idea how to get to, so I stuck with my original plan. The regular 60 minutes course is 16,000 yen, throw in the price for choosing your girl and traffic? And the total was 18,000 yen, not including the love hotel.

Also, I don't think the guy figured out I wasn't Japanese. I'd decided that I wasn't going to come out and ask about foreigners, but if I was asked I wouldn't lie. He never asked, so either he didn't catch on, or he did and didn't care.

I arrived at my hotel of choice a little after 8. Luckily they still had rooms! After I arrived at the room, I called Gals Network back, maybe around 8:05, to inform them of my room number. They told me they would call back for confirmation. 5 minutes later, the room phone rings, and after the hotel front confirms that I will take the call, the guy from Gals Network confirms that I am in the room. I tell him that since I'm here, go ahead and send Yayoi.

She arrives 10 minutes later (8:20 - still minutes early from the time I requested). I'm pretty sure she wasn't the same girl from the website. Not even close. And kind of chubby. I didn't really have the time for a change, so I just went with it. She was kind of surprised to see me at first, but I welcomed her in, and after a little small talk she warmed up a bit. Shower, BBBJ, some rest, and I wanted to go for a second pop but she pointed out that the time was running out. She didn't really want to seem to do much, and as Osaka3210 pointed out before, even if you make them perform ultimately it's not enjoyable.

All in all, a bit disappointing. 18,000 yen for the service, and 5,000 yen for the room. The privacy was nice, but then for the service, I could have gotten the same thing much cheaper elsewhere, or for that price much better service. Don't think I'll try it again.

I know there have been many reports about tobita and I am adding one more but I have to share my experience.

I finally went to Tobita on Sunday at about 3. 30 PM. Walking around and feasting my eyes. The call rate was about 20% but none of the girls looked that hot.

I passed one shop on the hot street and the mamasan was very agressive in calling me, the girl was also very hot so I ventured in. Enquired about the price and it was 11K for 15 mins and 16K for 25. As the girl was hot, I took the 25 min option.

We went to the room up stairs and the girl told me her name. She could speak English and I was surprised. Her name is Tomo. (I just went and read AK's previous posts and I think this the same gem he described a couple of pages back).

Se told me that hed b'day is on 22nd Nov and she will turn 29. She has a hot smoking body and that was the best 16K I ever spend in Japan.

After we undressed, we started with DFK and the she licked my nipples before giving me BBBJ. It was the best I have had in a long time. While she was sucking me, I was busy playing with her clit and finger fucking her, which she seemed to enjoy a lot. After a few mins, gathered her in my arms for some more DFK before paying attetion to her boobs and then moving on for some DATY. She is a screamer and if she didn't cum, then she deserves an oscar for her acting.

She lay panting for a while before some moe BBBJ and then put on the hat and rode me. I could see that she was enjoying herself and came once more.

We tried multiple positions till we both finally came again. I got 2 thumbs up from her. She was too tired to move and had to rest for a min or two before getting up cleaning me.

Then she cuddled with me and started talking.

She told me that she prefers foreigners. Does not like Japanese boys as they are too small but she does have a Japanese boyfriend and she works as a Nurse in a hospital. We did some more DFK till the bell rang.

So overall an awsome experience with a very hot girl and she has got my repeat business.

KJ

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King Jack,

Yep, that's my Tomo allright. She's fantastic, isn't she? I was actually considering going to go see her tonight, but I think you just convinced me to go. I haven't seen her in awhile, and honestly, no other girl has come close to her level.

I didn't know she speaks English though. I may have to call her on that tonight.

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]I finally gave delivery health a try. I decided to try Gals Network first as they seem to be foreigner friendly. Checking their website, most girls didn't start working until 8PM. I picked out 4 girls I liked, and called around 7:15. I requested Yayoi, my first choice, for 8:30. I gave them the name of a love hotel I was going to go to - the guy asked which room I was in, but I told him I hadn't actually gone in yet. He said that was fine and to call back when I did get the room.

Gals Network had a special deal - 60 minutes for 17,000 yen, with the price of the love hotel included. I asked about this, but the deal only works with a hotel they pick out. I didn't want to risk them picking some place I had no idea how to get to, so I stuck with my original plan. The regular 60 minutes course is 16,000 yen, throw in the price for choosing your girl and traffic? And the total was 18,000 yen, not including the love hotel.

Also, I don't think the guy figured out I wasn't Japanese. I'd decided that I wasn't going to come out and ask about foreigners, but if I was asked I wouldn't lie. He never asked, so either he didn't catch on, or he did and didn't care.

I arrived at my hotel of choice a little after 8. Luckily they still had rooms! After I arrived at the room, I called Gals Network back, maybe around 8:05, to inform them of my room number. They told me they would call back for confirmation. 5 minutes later, the room phone rings, and after the hotel front confirms that I will take the call, the guy from Gals Network confirms that I am in the room. I tell him that since I'm here, go ahead and send Yayoi.

She arrives 10 minutes later (8:20 - still minutes early from the time I requested). I'm pretty sure she wasn't the same girl from the website. Not even close. And kind of chubby. I didn't really have the time for a change, so I just went with it. She was kind of surprised to see me at first, but I welcomed her in, and after a little small talk she warmed up a bit. Shower, BBBJ, some rest, and I wanted to go for a second pop but she pointed out that the time was running out. She didn't really want to seem to do much, and as Osaka3210 pointed out before, even if you make them perform ultimately it's not enjoyable.

All in all, a bit disappointing. 18,000 yen for the service, and 5,000 yen for the room. The privacy was nice, but then for the service, I could have gotten the same thing much cheaper elsewhere, or for that price much better service. Don't think I'll try it again.[/QUOTE]

I think Gal's Network often uses the bait-and-switch, which is probably easy with horny foreigners ( or Japanese for that matter). Most places also seem to play games with the coupons/specials they offer. So the price does add up quickly. You should have gotten a second shot, although 60 minutes can end up being just 20-30 with pre/post dressing and showers.

I actually am beginning to think that hotel health is the better way to go, since you can confirm who the girl is before making your departure to the room, saving you dissapointment and wasted time waiting around. OF couse the HH place has to allow foreigners...

i went to tobita last night to go see tomo. before anything else though, directions to the "main" street with the hottest girls - if you take the directions where you turn left into the district in front of the "bread and food" sign, keep walking straight on this street. keep straight across a large intersection (there'll be a gas station on your right), then turn right on the next side street, maybe 20-30 meters after the intersection. you'll notice an overpass directly ahead of you. keep walking straight under the overpass - and you're basically here. in my opinion, it's this street that has the best selection of girls, though some of the choices on the side streets aren't bad either. this is also the street where mari and tomo's shops are.

i arrived at tomo's shop at about 7, and as she wasn't sitting out front, i asked the mamasan if she was there. much to my surprise, the mamasan said she'd already gone home! she said tomo finishes up at about 6. this must be a schedule change, as i know i've gone to see her around 7pm before. the mamasan tells me to come back on the weekends before 6.

i really wanted to see tomo, but it seemed a waste to go all the way out there and not monger. i asked the mamasan if there were any other girls i could play with. she told me that it would depend on the girl, and she got up and went in the back to ask the girl(s) there if there were any takers. she didn't ask the one already sitting in the front, but given how this girl never looked at me, i guess the answer was obvious. the mamasan came back - no luck. i thanked her for her efforts and told her i'd come back for tomo on the weekend.

next, i headed out to mari's shop. mari told me she doesn't work tuesdays or wednesdays, but there was the off-chance that she might be there. she wasn't. i again asked the mamasan if there was another girl. her reply was "kono ko wa ne..." in other words, no. i continued to walk about the main street, getting virtually no calls. i tried asking a few mamasan's, but they were quick to turn me away. i start to remember why i initially didn't like tobita.

i passed by one shop where, upon seeing me, the mamasan sort of turned her head away from me, but the girl was all smiles. i went to the shop and gave a simple greeting. the girl asked if i knew japanese, and i knew how the system worked. i said i did, and asked if i could come in. the girl said yes, and then looked at the mamasan - who didn't bother objecting, so it was a passive acceptance. i'll take it i guess. we go upstairs, and i opt for the 20 minute course at 15,000 yen (i notice that the 15 minute course isn't even listed). the girl's name is mako. she's really short, but has a cute smile and a nice tiny little body.

we talk for a little while before getting down to business. a little nipple licking, then cbj, then her on top. we eventually switch to missionary and then not bad. mako's not bad - leagues better than mari - but its still a little mechanical, no particular gfe. while we're in doggy the time's up chime rings. again, the condom is kind of thick, and mako's not that tight (despite being a tiny girl!), so i realize i'm not gonna get a shot off in time. i go ahead and stop, and mako apologizes, noting that 20 mins is a bit tight. i tell her not to worry about it. as i leave the shop, i notice the mamasan is a lot more friendly to me than she was before (she actually looks at me now!). not getting off was disappointing, and it wasn't really gfe, but i've certainly had worse and mako is a tiny cutie with a nice personality.

i still really wanted to get off though, so i decided to try my luck on some of the side streets. again, i'm getting no calls, and when i do try to ask at a shop i'm getting turned down. one mamasan explains "you see, this area is only for japanese. sorry." a blatant lie, but i didn't feel like calling her on it and telling her that i've patronized several shops, even one just a few minutes ago. as i continue walking, i do get one call - another short and cute girl, with a big cute smile. works for me.

we go upstairs, and i again choose 20 mins for 16,000 yen (some shops charge 15,000, some 16,000, i dunno why). the girl's name is suzu. she's cute, but small, - its hard to describe, but has a older-lady-ish body, and she looks like she could be older under the makeup, but she still feels young. suzu does play the cute act well with the high-pitched voice. i notice that as we're talking, she begins to inch closer to me and playfully flirt - something i have yet to see in a tobita girl (tomo will just take off her clothes and say "we'll, let's have sex then"). it doesn't take long for suzu to lean in for a kiss, and after a little dfk we move to the futon.

a little nipple licking, then a cbj. suzu notes how "big" i am. i ask if she likes big, and she says she does, but we have to start off slow or else it'll start to hurt. i let her get on top at first to control the speed and depth. she said "start off slow"...i dunno what her definintion of slow is, but she started off like a piston. i start to play with her breasts, and she stops in mid-act to explain that she prefers her nipples to be pulled - not hard to the point where it hurts, just a little bit. i comply, and we go at it with her on top for awhile before switching to missionary.

with the "slow" portion now over, i step it up a notch - i'm really pounding this tiny little girl. this is the only way i can get feeling out of these thick condoms. suzu is very vocal and seems to be enjoying it. "harder...c'mon, pump me full of cum!" she says. with this, the hard action, and suzu being pretty tight, i'm more than happy to oblige.

however, as i pull out, i notice that the condom broke.

the rest of the condom was intact, but it seems that just the tip ripped off. at any rate, suzu now had a fair amount of my jizz inside of her. i apologized, and she said not to worry - she didn't think it went all the way to the back, and she'd go clean it out later. i apologized again, and a few more times, but i really don't know what to do in this type of situation. hopefully, a decade from now or so, some half-japanese kid doesn't come running up to me and be like "daddy?" we got dressed and i gave suzu another quick kiss before leaving.

as i was on my way out, one mamasan says "that was scary!" as i walk by. i can't help but to look back and give her a cross look to let her know i understood what she said. i overheard a few girls say "no way" as i passed by their shop as well. oh well, not like you were getting my money anyway. i was reminded how much i hate browsing in tobita - its cool if i have a place to go, but if i don't its sort of subjecting myself to unpleasant discrimination.

i've definintely got to go back and see tomo sometime this weekend and go confirm her schedule.

[QUOTE=Azure Knight] Again, the condom is kind of thick,

This is the only way I can get feeling out of these thick condoms. Suzu is very vocal and seems to be enjoying it. "Harder...c'mon, pump me full of cum!" she says. With this, the hard action, and Suzu being pretty tight, I'm more than happy to oblige.

However, as I pull out, I notice that the condom broke.
.[/QUOTE]

Bring Your Own Condom (thinnest in the world, and stronger than rubber).
L-size readily available in Japanese drugstores.

[url]http://www.002mm.com/main.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Azure Knight] At any rate, Suzu now had a fair amount of my jizz inside of her. I apologized, and she said [B]not to worry - she didn't think it went all the way to the back, and she'd go clean it out later. [/B]I apologized again, and a few more times, but I really don't know what to do in this type of situation. Hopefully, a decade from now or so, some half-Japanese kid doesn't come running up to me and be like "Daddy?" [/QUOTE]That is reason alone to worry. 'didn't think it went all the way to the back'?? Japanese ignorance at it's best.

AZ, I'd take a trip to the clinic in the next couple weeks and put the mongering on hold.

Thought I'd take a stroll through Tobita this evening after work. And blow off a little steam. Got there around 17. 30, but things were pretty quiet (too early? Too cold? ). While the open shops were few, there were plenty of police on bicycles and on foot looking for any and all foreigners to stop for a passport check. Needless to say, it was enough to quickly kill the mood and I headed home.

The fingerprint/photo law went into action yesterday across Japan, and it's not just at the border that they're being strict. According to Japanese law, all foreigners must carry their gaijin card at ALL times. If you do not have one, or are here on holiday, you must carry your passport. As I stupidly found out last night, even a quick trip to the Family Mart several blocks away without your passport/gaijin card is enough to get you hauled into your local koban box for a chat and a photo. Despite what you've been told, a photocopy of your passport is NOT acceptable.

Keep yourselves on your toes, boys!

Wandered through Tobita after spending the morning at Spa World. Noted that there was a blonde Russian cutie doing the body scrub on the mens floor and four absolute honeys at the Heavenly Massage also on 6/F!

In Tobita I was called by just about every Mamasan in the hot road (the one with the clock at the end) even though I do not speak a word of Japanese. And I am quite obviously English.

Picked a 24 year old blonde cutie and took her for 25 minutes. Usual good service and I was well happy! Noted that most of my old shags were still working! I have been going to Tobita for about 5 years on and off.

Having said that. I get much more action (as a visitor) by picking up girls in bars in the Minami area.

I went back to "Kinbana" the other day and scored a real deal. 60 min for 9000 yen! I only had 10K on me and I explained to the mamasan that I just needed 1000 yen to get back home because I forgot my train ticket at home and thankfully she let me get FS for 60min. Yes, true story too. I actually did forget my train ticket!

This time I got set up with quite the looker in Mari, a Chinese girl who the mamasan said was the most popular girl in the Este. I wouldn't be surprised with the way she handled my equipment in her mouth! I was getting seriously turned on so I sat up to watch her gobble my piece in her mouth while licking the lower part of the shaft at the same time. Daaaam, it was good.

After 10 minutes of sucking she got on and rode me like a champ till I shot out a good 20 minutes later. Still had 30 minutes to kill but thankfully Mari is definitely a GFE and we basically DFK and played with each other till time was up. She even gave me a nice, slow handjob after everything. I didn't shoot the second time but it felt great.

[quote=mak daddy]af place i have used on a couple occassions:

[url]http://www.af-sentai.net/gal.php[/url] the hot one at that place said she would not do foreigners.

according to another mongerer:

"the site does say it has a number of cuties, but when i went i had to pay first, and then the choice of 8 i was given only had 1-2 i though attractive. i picked a gal who was supposedly thin, but had actually put on about 20kg since she started working there and was about 60kg in real life. nice enough, but not exactly a high class place. one poster got me thinking about the nama/naka dashi offered-an aids timebomb as he put it..."[/quote]

af-sentai allows foreigners with passable japanese in the door. no problem. never had a girl there turn me down. staff was friendly and helpful. unless you call ahead with a reservation (usually no extra fee, but don't be late! ) might have to wait a while for the girl to show up. waiting room is loud, smokey, and the other customers will stare at you. best to make an appointment and come back in an hour or so.

multi-pops are a go with most girls. only some will do bbtc, if that's your thing. most girls are japanese, they had one or two other asians there earlier this year, but i don't know some of the girls working there now. the girls do their prep before the session starts, anal has always been clean. the condom-only girls are prettier. never met a girl there with an attitude, though some of the girls i've seen there are a little run down physically. typical japanese bad teeth, bad skin problems. a few of them look like their pictures, but many do not. you can request a face-to-face meeting before going off together for extra yens. i've tried before to take the "free" girl and avoid the selection fee, but i always seem to pay it anyway. staff likes to put out the photos before you can say "i'll take whoever is available. "

you pay the guy at the counter for the time, selection fee, member fee (if you don't already have a membership card), and hotel fee. you wait some time while the girl comes in. (even girls listed on the schedule seem to take between 30 minutes and an hour to come to the shop without a reservation.) the girl leads you off to the hotel, negotiates the room, and then you pay her directly for any extras you want, such as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] or bareback. bbbj, sumata and covered anal service is always included in the base price. they sometimes run a web special, which includes the selection and membership fee. you'll still have to pay the hotel fee, which is usually lower than paying for the hotel yourself (especially if you take a long session.)

if you like bigger girls, i've had good luck with the osaka fats/monroe network. several girls on staff perform anal, and those are the ones i usually choose. unfortunately, about as often as not, i've gotten cbj with zero chance of bbbj. seems to depend on the girl. hotel fee always included, other fees often waived with monthly specials. covered anal for around 20k yens. 3p service with two large is a riot. (no anal service on 3p)

i used to frequent matsushina over tobita. very nice stopping off for a quicky after seeing a game at the osaka dome. only some shops accept foreigners, maybe 1/3. sometimes mama-san waves you in only for the girl to reject you. i wish i could remember the names of the shops i liked best. there's one larger shop which usually has 3 or 4 gals (early 20s) in the front which always let me in without even a "douzo". walk down the larger street from the covered mall, and look down an alley to your right. everything at matsushina is covered always, i think. no bbbj. price i've always paid is 15, 000 yen for 30 minutes of playtime, plus before and after shower. easier to take your time than at tobita.

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[QUOTE=Mendicant]Af-Sentai allows foreigners with passable Japanese in the door. No problem.

If you like bigger girls, I've had good luck with the Osaka Fats/Monroe network. Several girls on staff perform anal, and those are the ones I usually choose. Unfortunately, about as often as not, I've gotten CBJ with zero chance of BBBJ. Seems to depend on the girl. Hotel fee always included, other fees often waived with monthly specials. Covered anal for around 20K yens. 3P service with two large is a riot. (no anal service on 3P)

I used to frequent Matsushina over Tobita. Very nice stopping off for a quicky after seeing a game at the Osaka Dome. Only some shops accept foreigners, maybe 1/3. Sometimes mama-san waves you in only for the girl to reject you. I wish I could remember the names of the shops I liked best. There's one larger shop which usually has 3 or 4 gals (early 20s) in the front which always let me in without even a "douzo". Walk down the larger street from the covered mall, and look down an alley to your right. Everything at Matsushina is covered always, I think. No BBBJ. Price I've always paid is 15, 000 yen for 30 minutes of playtime, plus before and after shower. Easier to take your time than at Tobita.
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Excellent report. Nice to see a couple new places added to the mix.

[QUOTE=Mendicant]If you like bigger girls, I've had good luck with the Osaka Fats/Monroe network. [/QUOTE]

Here is the website for anyone who is interested in TOFTT (I am). 15,000/90min including hotel is a pretty fair price.

Despite the unattractive name, the girls on the site appear to have some pretty cute faces, and let's face it, while you aren't going to find a thin all-natural F-Cup girl in any country, the ones in Japan would be considered slender in North America. Some of the girls have H and even O cups! And any girl who has a bust 30-40cm bigger than her waist definately gets my attention. (Typical J-gal is B-80cm, W-60cm)

[url]http://www.osakafats.com/cgi/top.cgi[/url]

[QUOTE=The Special One]
The fingerprint/photo law went into action yesterday across Japan, and it's not just at the border that they're being strict. According to Japanese law, all foreigners must carry their gaijin card at ALL times. If you do not have one, or [/QUOTE]

This has always been the rule. Everyone in Japan must carry identification. It might upset the ACLU types, but it does help account for the fact that Japan has one of the lowest rates of missing person cases. Every time they find a dead body, the likelihood of the dead person having ID on them is increased because of the law.

[QUOTE=Mendicant]Af-Sentai allows foreigners with passable Japanese in the door. No problem. Never had a girl there turn me down. [/QUOTE]

None of the girls they show you in the photos will turn you down. Try picking one of the hot girls from the website. The shop only shows you photos of girls who will do foreigners.

[QUOTE=Mendicant]
I used to frequent Matsushina over Tobita. Very nice stopping off for a quicky [/QUOTE]

Spelling is Matushima.

[QUOTE=Lion]Here is the website for anyone who is interested in TOFTT (I am). 15,000/90min including hotel is a pretty fair price.

[url]http://www.osakafats.com/cgi/top.cgi[/url][/QUOTE]That is a weekday only special. The I course after 5 P.M. is 100 minutes for 15,500. They also have a coupon for free membership card. I've never needed to print out the "ticket" or coupon from the website, but it is probably a good idea anyway. The membership card is a point card, and you can collect points to get discounts on service. The card works at Osaka Fats and Monroe.

Osaka Fats is hard to find even with a map and bit far from the Umeda Station. Monroe is very close to Tanimachi 9 Chome Station and easy to find. Mrs Monroe is a hitozuma shop in the same location as Monroe. It looks cheaper than the other two shops, but I don't know if you get points. It opened right before I moved, and the girls working there at the time had irregular schedules. I do not know the difference in the shops, because Monroe has a few regular 30s women as well.

[url]http://monroe-osf.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mrs-monroe.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]None of the girls they show you in the photos will turn you down. Try picking one of the hot girls from the website. The shop only shows you photos of girls who will do foreigners.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I usually just made a phone reservation to taking my chances since I hated waiting in the shop, so I must have never asked for a "hot one". I'll have to test it out next time I go into Osaka.

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]Spelling is Matushima.[/QUOTE]Yes. My error.

I spent about an hour and a half searching for Osaka fats yesterday, using the map, with no luck. Could anybody give me a hint on where it is?

Will be going to Osaka during the new year holiday. I want to check out Osaka fats, I remember there were tons of shops and hotel health around Umeda but none offered FS (that was a few years ago). Has this changed? Osaka fats, is FS included? Japanese speaking westerners welcomed?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Mendicant]That is a weekday only special. The I course after 5 P.M. is 100 minutes for 15,500. They also have a coupon for free membership card. I've never needed to print out the "ticket" or coupon from the website, but it is probably a good idea anyway. The membership card is a point card, and you can collect points to get discounts on service. The card works at Osaka Fats and Monroe.[/QUOTE]Do they accept foreigners? Can you report on your experience? The site looks tempting.

Went to Tobita yesterday in the early afternoon. Very little traffic, so that I got a call rate of 80%. First tried a chick in one of the less popular streets. Here name is Riu. Large tits (Japanese H or I cup) with a nice face and slightly chubby, although not fat. Booked 20 min at Yen 11. 000. Started with DFK, BBBJ, TF, FS in various positions. All in all a nice GFE and well worth the money, if you don't mind a bit of extra fat on the body.

After that I felt energized and fit for a 2nd round. Tried one of the gorgeous girls in the popular streets. The mamasan was eager to get me in and the girl smiled at me and showed off her tits. Her name is Ren. Nice body with a very big tatoo on her lower back, D cup tits. Booked 20 min at Yen 16. 000. Asked me for the money in a very businesslike manner which made me feel uncomfortable. In hindsight I should have left at that moment. She asked me to undress and got herself undressed too. Immediately put the rubber on and moved to CBJ. Her technique was excellent though. Then asked me to switch positions for FS. She only accepted missionary. Didn't look at me for even one moment. Then the bell rang. Told me I have 3 minutes left. The clock certainly was running twice as fast than mine, as the whole thing lasted 10 minutes max. Her cold fish attitude and the fact that I was obviously cheated on time turned me off completely, so that I couldn't come.

So the Tobita problem is: how do you know in advance which girls give you a good service and at which places you are cheated?

[QUOTE=Mikejp]how do you know in advance which girls give you a good service and at which places you are cheated?[/QUOTE]

Isn't that basically the problem with women everywhere, pro or amateur? The irony is that although Tobita/Kujo type places probably give you the best opportunity to know what you are getting before you pay, you never really know until you are done, do you? Even when you are out on a date with a regular girl, until you get her home, and undressed, you really don't know what her body is like, and until you have done the deed, you still don't know if you are sexually compatible.

With that disclaimer: check out Maika at Heart (心, ハート ) on the first main street parallel the shopping arcade. The shop's phone is 06-6636-7637. She works from 11-17:00 Monday through Saturday except Wednesdays. no condom, three holer

[QUOTE=Mendicant]That is a weekday only special. The I course after 5 P.M. is 100 minutes for 15,500. They also have a coupon for free membership card. I've never needed to print out the "ticket" or coupon from the website, but it is probably a good idea anyway. The membership card is a point card, and you can collect points to get discounts on service. The card works at Osaka Fats and Monroe.

Osaka Fats is hard to find even with a map and bit far from the Umeda Station. Monroe is very close to Tanimachi 9 Chome Station and easy to find. Mrs Monroe is a hitozuma shop in the same location as Monroe. It looks cheaper than the other two shops, but I don't know if you get points. It opened right before I moved, and the girls working there at the time had irregular schedules. I do not know the difference in the shops, because Monroe has a few regular 30s women as well.

[url]http://monroe-osf.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mrs-monroe.com/[/url]

Interesting. I usually just made a phone reservation to taking my chances since I hated waiting in the shop, so I must have never asked for a "hot one". I'll have to test it out next time I go into Osaka.

Yes. My error.[/QUOTE]Is there a Tokyo equivelent to Osaka/Monroe that is gaijin friendly?

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]Isn't that basically the problem with women everywhere, pro or amateur? The irony is that although Tobita/Kujo type places probably give you the best opportunity to know what you are getting before you pay, you never really know until you are done, do you? Even when you are out on a date with a regular girl, until you get her home, and undressed, you really don't know what her body is like, and until you have done the deed, you still don't know if you are sexually compatible.

With that disclaimer: check out Maika at Heart (心, ハート ) on the first main street parallel the shopping arcade. The shop's phone is 06-6636-7637. She works from 11-17:00 Monday through Saturday except Wednesdays. no condom, three holer[/QUOTE]N0 condom? Are you out of your freakin mind? WHY would you recommend a girl who provides bareback?

[QUOTE=The Special One]N0 condom? Are you out of your freakin mind? WHY would you recommend a girl who provides bareback?[/QUOTE]

This is the first time you have seen someone recommend bareback on this site? Why do you think there is name for it, and an appealing name at that?

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]This is the first time you have seen someone recommend bareback on this site? Why do you think there is name for it, and an appealing name at that?[/QUOTE]Hmmm, yes. I see your point. Bareback sounds so much more appealing than Russian Roulette.

Thanks for posting up her name, I will be sure to avoid her and anyone else that you've contributed to the potential disease pool.

This is your LIFE, man! Why would you want risk it by to sticking your cock into a girl that has had several other ungloved cocks in there God knows how many times that day?

[quote=the special one]thanks for posting up her name[/quote]

well i will try to let you know where i go from now on!

many shops in japan have signs for the "nama" price and the regular price. and the places where there are no signs, will often tell you the price difference if you ask. you may think the woman you are doing is lily clean because you have a rubber on, but some nasty old japanese guy with a wad of cash from the boat races was doing her nama just before you got there. probably in her mouth. i hope you don't kiss them. the special one gives/receives no unprotected oral sex either? might as well stay home.

not that i disagree with you in principal. i visited maika a couple times, and stopped just for the reason you explain. however, i think you are trying to delude yourself that what you are doing is really that much safer. most people would suggest that just purchasing sex is already high risk, particularly in japan, and your point is just splitting hairs. you and i are like an agnostic and an atheist fighting about god, and most people would view our debate from the perspective of an evangelical.

a condom is not an absolute barrier to hiv, even if it doesn't break. while it is important, it is just one factor in being safer. are you circumcised? (i never thought i would be grateful my parents had someone slice off a piece of my dick.) do you get tested for hiv every three months? do you put the condom on as soon as you get an erection? if you really want to be safe, abstaining is the way to go.

anyway, my point is that the issue is more of a spectrum than an absolute. any activity has risks. even staying home, and dying of boredom. have you ever driven over the speed limit? browse the other forums, and you will see guys specifically looking for nama places. most probably don't do it everyday, but sometimes you gotta just say, ironically enough, live a little.

ciao for now,
mak

[QUOTE=Osaka3210]I spent about an hour and a half searching for Osaka fats yesterday, using the map, with no luck. Could anybody give me a hint on where it is?[/QUOTE]That sounds about right. As I recall, it's a block north of the YWCA. There is no sign and two or three identical-looking doorways. Get to the neighborhood, maybe near the middle school, and call.

[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Will be going to Osaka during the new year holiday. I want to check out Osaka fats, I remember there were tons of shops and hotel health around Umeda but none offered FS (that was a few years ago). Has this changed? Osaka fats, is FS included? Japanese speaking westerners welcomed?[/QUOTE]I don't know of anything FS in Umeda.

Always got friendly smiles from the staff walking into Osaka Fats and Monroe, even before I spoke. Shouldn't be a problem for foreigners with some Japanese.

[QUOTE=Logan6663]Is there a Tokyo equivelent to Osaka/Monroe that is gaijin friendly?[/QUOTE]I don't hobby in Tokyo anymore, but you can ask on the Tokyo forum or check this site. [url]http://www.debu-sen.net/[/url]

Went to Tobita last week to see Tomo. I'd seen her once since my last report here - made it a point to go out on the weekend to catch her. As King Jack said earlier, she has a new job as a nurse now, which means her Tobita hours have shifted to the daytime. She now finishes around 6. As my job doesn't finish until 6, and weekdays are usually best for me, I wondered how I was ever going to see her regularly again. She gave me a card with the shop's phone number on it - if I wanted to see her on a weekday, she told me to phone ahead and ask for her to wait.

So one Thursday I did just that. I phoned ahead to the mamasan, and upon confirming that Tomo was there, I asked if she wouldn't mind waiting for 30 minutes while I was en route. The mamasan said it would be no problem, and off I went. Arriving at the street that Tomo's shop is on, I remembered that Mari's shop is also on this street. Ordinarily, I might have gone around the long way, but I figured Mari wouldn't start work until later. I was wrong. As I passed by, the mamasan actively called out to me (rare) and when I looked inside the shop, sure enough Mari was sitting there! There wasn't much I could do - I just smiled as I walked by.

Tomo's shop was only a few meters ahead. I got there and Tomo had been sitting up front waiting for me. I thanked her for waiting, and we went upstairs. I asked if she was busy today, and she said she wasn't at all - not too many mongers during the daytime, and its getting colder anyway so people are staying inside in general. She hadn't had any customers. So, afternoon mongers, go pay this girl a visit, you will definintely not regret it.

Though, thinking of Tomo as a nurse absolutely fascinates me. Imagine going into a hospital and having an absolute stunner for a nurse, and as you're thinking about how much you'd like to fuck her, in reality you can if you pay her a visit to her secret day job.

I've seen Tomo plenty of times up until now, but this time was a little different (which is why I'm writing this report). As usual, she asked about the time. I didn't have much time, so I went with 20 minutes. I gave her 20,000 yen. She takes the two notes and asks "how much change should I bring you?". I was kind of surprised by the question, and didn't understand. I confirmed that the price for 20 minutes was 16,000 yen, and she said "Ok, 4,000 yen change is okay then?" I think she was allowing me to bargain my price a little, but I just didn't catch on. I don't mind, if there's any girl in Tobita who deserves the extra yen, it's Tomo.

As usual, she comes back from her bathroom trip and gets undressed, so I do the same and we get on the futon. Tomo starts off with nipple licking, followed by a BBBJ as she always does. Usually, right after the BBBJ Tomo puts the cap on and moves to get on top. I usually stop her so I can lick her breasts and DATY before that. As I didn't have time today, I figured I'd skip the DATY. However, after the BBBJ, Tomo gets on top of me and sits on my face. Guess I'll be DATY afterall. While I'm eating, Tomo reaches behind and gives me a HJ.

After she cums once, Tomo slids down to give me some amazing sumata. Again, a first for her. At one point, she had the tip of my cock just about to penetrate her pussy lips. Just one slight push from me and I could have experienced this wonderful minx raw. And it was so tempting too. But I wasn't quite sure if she was inviting me in, and even if she was, my brain just kept screaming unsafe. I didn't move, and after little bit more sumata, Tomo finally dismounted, grabbed a raincoat, and put it on me.

As always, incredible GFE. I think this time was the best, and that's saying a lot. Her service was already wonderful before, but now its just exceptional. Perhaps because I'm a regular, repeat customer? Or maybe with not so many customers, she had lots of sexual energy still pent up? Either way, it was awesome. As if there weren't already a thousand reasons to only go see Tomo. I am a bit worried though, if her nurse job becomes too hard/the Tobita gig becomes unprofitable, will she quit working? Perhaps I'll ask her about this on my next visit.

Upon leaving, I made it a point to steer around Mari's shop this time. Checking my cell however, sure enough she'd sent me a message - "You went into a different shop? I'm very sad..." I mailed back and said that I didn't have much time and didn't think she was working. I said that I wanted to see her though soon. I may pay her a visit just to keep that up. Although Mari is gorgeous, her service leaves a whole lot to be desired (not to mention the mamasan who cheats you on time). However, in one point in our mailings, we were talking about meeting up outside of her shop. What I'm hoping for is to be able to meet up with her outside of Tobita; if I can take my time with her, I can forgive the lack of GFE. Of course, a freebie is ideal, but I won't hold my breath.

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]At one point, she had the tip of my cock just about to penetrate her pussy lips. Just one slight push from me and I could have experienced this wonderful minx raw. And it was so tempting too. But I wasn't quite sure if she was inviting me in, and even if she was, my brain just kept screaming unsafe.[/QUOTE]I'm sure you could have barebacked her.

By the way, what is the name of her shop, in Kanji?

And for the record, I'm not planning on barebacking her.

I probably could have barebacked her. I certainly wanted to. I just had to err on the side of caution though. Better safe than sorry and all that. Although, since she's working as a nurse now, I'd think/hope that if any Tobita girl could keep herself relatively clean, it would be her.

I've seen her plenty of times but this is the first time I've ever gotten sumata, or even felt like bareback was possible. So I'm guessing its something you have to earn by being a regular customer that she's comfortable enough with.

The name of her shop is 美里. As I said, she works during the daytime until 6PM. The mamasan will probably try to make contact with you, but if not then Tomo will probably give you a look and a smile.

Hi,

Just spent a few days in Osaka for the new year. Couple of things have changed since the last time I was there (couple of years ago).

- Delivery health services

Not recommended, it seems japanese speaking foreigners are OK but many girls won't do FS. Price is expensive, not worth it.

- Osaka fats

Very hard to find, once I find it I had an honest talk with the guy at the door. Since he wouldn't tell me which girl would do FS I asked him which girl would not do FS. At least 2/3 of the girls are NG, not recommended.

- Chinese esute

Depends on the place, prices are pretty cheap. 1 man yen for 40 mins full service. I tried a few places, not that good until I found this gold mine! I've included 2 pics to help you get there. All girls are Chinese but the service is real good. GFE. Attitude is great! Girls are young, not fat and pretty cute. I went there on the 30th-31st and there were at least 10 girls to choose from, small/big boobs, short/tall etc. Foreigners are very welcomed, girls speak Japanese/Chinese. How to get there:

From Umeda station, find the tourist information center. Cross the large crosswalk and go straight. Near Hep Navio, cross again a double crosswalk. Keep going straight, another crosswalk, on your left you should see the sign Tsutaya CD/DVD, keep going straight for 5 mins. Then turn left and you should see the sign. Name of the shop is esute momo hana en (or something like that). Price is 1 man yean 40 min FS. You can get a longer course. 40 mins includes shower, BJ, everything.

Have fun! This one is a real gold mine!

[QUOTE=Gifuboy]From Umeda station, find the tourist information center. Cross the large crosswalk and go straight. Near Hep Navio, cross again a double crosswalk. Keep going straight, another crosswalk, on your left you should see the sign Tsutaya CD/DVD, keep going straight for 5 mins. Then turn left and you should see the sign. Name of the shop is esute momo hana en (or something like that). Price is 1 man yean 40 min FS. You can get a longer course. 40 mins includes shower, BJ, everything.[/QUOTE]I'm almost certain this is the spot mentioned by Grassy Knoll some months ago. The directions in the map provided by GK are actually a bit off, but I went to that place and the signs and name look familiar.

Yeah, I agree with Gifuboy here. I've been to that same place (I think it's called Toukakoen, not Momo Hana Koen though) and they got a bunch of good looking gals there, and it's only 1man for 40 minutes. Decent deal if you ask me. I think someone mentioned this place (Azure Knight?) as well. I think in this building alone there are two other places you can go, and the building beside also has three other establishments. Most of the girls are Chinese and Korean but I haven't met any girls that I'd rate below a 7.

[QUOTE=Saint Of Killers]Yeah, I agree with Gifuboy here. I've been to that same place (I think it's called Toukakoen, not Momo Hana Koen though) and they got a bunch of good looking gals there, and it's only 1man for 40 minutes. Decent deal if you ask me. I think someone mentioned this place (Azure Knight?) as well. I think in this building alone there are two other places you can go, and the building beside also has three other establishments. Most of the girls are Chinese and Korean but I haven't met any girls that I'd rate below a 7.[/QUOTE]Saint of Killers,

Thanks for given us the correct name. I have problems with names, just read every kanjis one by one.

I went over older reports and it's definitely the same place that was mentionned by GK and Azure Knight. I didn't know such a gold mine existed! If you wander in Umeda near the Kansai Hotel, there are at least 3-4 Chinese esute places, I tried two of them and the service was terrible. There are only 1-2 girls working, the mama-san can ask someone to come over if they don't have what your looking for but I was disappointed.

My experience at Toukakoen

I tried 2 girls, Yoko and Ruru, my Japanese and Chinese are both intermediate so I had no problem communicating. Experience was very GFE, deep kissing allowed, very nice BJ. As someone mentioned earlier, some of the girls expect you to come japanese style (I. E within 5 mins) so you might wanna make sure to mention it when choosing the girl. When they lined up the girls in front of me, I specified (both in Japanese and Chinese) that I wanted someone who would French Kiss and that I could go marathon style for 15-20 mins before coming. Half the girls didn't seem interested, among the ones that were OK I picked up Yoko. I banged her really hard and she was quite into it (good actress? ). After 15 mins she finally gave up and told me she was a bit tired so I was nice to her and came. Yoko was so great that I had her one more time later in the day and the next day. I also had Ruru the next day, as usual she was expecting me to come fast, when she realized it wasn't gonna be 2 mins she didn't ask me to come and we went for multiple positions. Thinking about the money I spent at DH places or other Chinese esute I think that's the best 1 man yen (4 sessions total damage 4 man yen) I spent in a long time! Anyway this place should be mentioned in some Hall of Fame or something. I live in Kanto, anyone knows a similar place in Tokyo?

How to get there

I am not sure if I was precise enough when giving the directions. When getting off at Osaka (Umeda) station, find the tourist information center. Then you cross the large crosswalk and it's straight all the way. As you pass Hep Navio, there are many muryousodanjou (free information kiosks for soap lands), if you have the name of the place you can ask and I think they might help you. As you go straight and have crossed 3 crosswalks (one at the tourist info center, one at hep navio and one with the Tsutaya sign on the left) there will be less and less restaurant and people. If you get lost, turn right and you'll end up on a big street, there's a Lawson there. Face the Lawson and take the street on the left of the Lawson, go straight and on your left you should see the sign of the shop I posted earlier. The shop is on the first floor.

Have fun!

I went to go see Mari in Tobita Friday night. The last time I was in Tobita I passed by Mari's shop, with her in it, on the way to Tomo's shop. I of course got an email full of sad smiley faces about this later.

Am I being suckered in by Mari's tactics? Perhaps? My ultimate goal with her is to arrange a deal where we meet outside of Tobita, and I can do whatever I want with her with no time constraints. If I could get that, I wouldn't mind the complete lack of GFE (so much). At one point, this almost happened, however our schedules conflicted and we couldn't get together. I figured the fact that I hadn't been to her shop in a while, plus the fact that she saw me walk right by her, may have set back any progress I might have made. So I went to see her on Friday to sort of smooth things over, and get the ball rolling again.

Friday night was PACKED in Tobita. I have never seen that many people there before. You couldn't walk without bumping into a group of guys. I'd emailed Mari and told her I would be stopping by at 7. I actually got there around 6:40, and when I got to her shop, the mamasan told me she was busy. I asked if it was ok to wait, and the mamasan said there were no rooms available to wait in, pointing at the pair of men's business shoes parked in the genkan. That was really all she needed to say - she told me to come back in 20 minutes and Mari should be available. I took the chance to walk around Tobita, see what my call rate was. As expected for a busy night: zero. When the place is crawling with Japanese guys - why waste time with a foreigner? I did notice another foreign guy making the rounds that night (one of you lurkers?), I wonder what success he had, if any.

'Round 7 I went back to Mari's place, and as the mamasan promised, she was available. We went up to the usual room, and Mari asked me about the time. At first I decided on 20 minutes, but later changed my mind to 30 for 21,000 yen. After Mari took her bathroom trip, I made it a point to check my watch for the time - it was about 7:05. If I was standing out on the street any earlier than 7:40, I'll know I was getting cheated on the time.

Mari came back, and as we undressed we had some small talk. She told me that she'd had an American customer the day before, about 23 years old (again, I'm looking at you lurkers...). I asked about the session, and she said it was "enjoyable". She said that she preferred foreigners over Japanese men, as foreigners were gentler and kinder. "Japanese guys are too rough, too cold. Foreigners are better", she said. I didn't know before if she was a girl who was foreign OK, or if I'd just managed to luck out on a slow night when I first found her.

Although the session was sort of the same as before, I noticed her opening up to me a little more. She permitted me DATY - something she'd denied me before. At first she said only a little bit, but I stayed down there a while and she didn't try to push me away. She also allowed for some kissing - nothing even remotely close to DFK, but again, this was something she hadn't let fly before. Aside from that, it was more or less the same, including my difficulty to remain hard if I wasn't actively inside one of her holes. I believe this problem is the fault of the condoms, and her mechanical nature. I also confirmed that her nice, big tits are fake - I could see the scar in the middle of her chest. Hats off to her surgeon though, they feel great.

Unlike the other times, this session didn't feel rushed. I started to feel like time was going to run out, so I came at a good point, and not long after that the buzzer rang. I noticed that Mari keeps her own personal timer, which rang at nearly the same time the mamasan sounded her buzzer. After we finished up, I again approached the idea of us meeting outside of Tobita, to which she seemed very receptive towards. So I'm going to work towards that and see what I can do. I went downstairs and quickly put on my shoes - I figured having me linger around the genkan would be potentially bad for the shop's business. As I walked away, I checked my watch - 7:43 or so. I got the time I paid for.

Basically, the point of this report is to confirm that Mari is foreigner-friendly. While she's a visual knockout, you'll get 0 GFE and she also doesn't have too much English ability. If you don't care, and basically just want to pump a good-looking Japanese girl until you cum, Mari's an option. If you're willing to stick with her, she may gradually warm up to you. I think the name of her shop is 白虎, but don't hold me to that. If you're taking the directions to the main street that I provided earlier...after you walk under the overpass, there will be a block of shops. Mari's shop is on the left, and I think the last one on the left (it's not one of the shops that sits on the corner). I believe she works everyday except Tuesdays and Wednesdays, from 5PM - 1AM. If Mari's on display, the mamasan will probably call out to you. She has long, straight, dyed hair and wears color contacts.

[QUOTE=Gifuboy]I went over older reports and it's definitely the same place that was mentionned by GK and Azure Knight. I didn't know such a gold mine existed! [/QUOTE]
The price is great, but I was a little put off by the girl I got. Worth another shot though I suppose.

For a year or so, I have known about these places called 出会い喫茶店 or Dating Coffee Shops. A buddy told me about them, and said they are coffee shops where you come in, tell the maitre d if you are alone or if you have a date, and the type of people you wish to be introduced to. Then the maitre d determines where to seat you. Other guests who have previously entered are sitting there, and if you are a suitable match, they sit you down and chat. It is for people wanting to meet others for dating.

I often see a sign for a Dating Coffee Shop near where Toukakoen is, but on the other side of the expressway, and a bit south. Also, at the northwest corner of Dotombori and Sakai-Suji, there is often a guy standing with a sign for a Dating Coffee Shop. The building across the street, on the southwest corner of Dotombori and Sakai Suji is where the establishment is, so I went in to check it out. The place is called Cululu. Here is the web site: [url]http://www.cululu.com/[/url] They have several branches.

Basically, Cululu is a place for freelance girls to pick up guys, and not the sort of coffee shop that had been described to me by my buddy. I chatted with a couple girls, and they quoted prices of ¥20,000 to ¥30,000. They were not willing to go back to my place, and I was not in the mood to shell out for a hotel. They were OK looking. Also, the entry price for the coffee shop is about ¥3,000 and there is another ¥3,000 fee or so if you end up going out with one of the gals. There is also an ¥8,000 or so membership fee, which I managed to get him to discount by half. He accepted so quickly, that I realized I should have asked him to waive the membership fee entirely. Perhaps this is because I was there early in the day, on a holiday, and business was slow.

Anyway, I felt like my money would be better spent at Tobita, so I passed, but if anyone checks the place out, please let me know. The proprietor said Thursday evenings are the best.

Also, if anyone knows of a proper Dating Coffee Shop along the lines my buddy told me about please let me know. Thanks.

Mak

Gifuboy:

Thanks for the heads up. That sounds like a good place, and I will give it a try. However, why don't people include the addresses for these places? Yea, addresses in Japan are a pain in the ass, but it is better than trying to navigate by 'left at the taxi, and right at the smell of the udon'. Especially once you get used to using Japanese addresses, there is a sort of bizarre logic to them.

I called and the guy said the address is Matsunoki Bldg. 11-2 Doyama-cho; Kita-ku, Osaka or 大阪北区堂山町11-2松木ビル. I am not sure of those characters for the building name. That is just a guess.

Here is the link on the map: [url]http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34.70028&lon=135.50730083&sc=1&mode=map&type=scroll[/url]

Does that look right? Thanks again.

Mak

[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Saint of Killers,

How to get there

I am not sure if I was precise enough when giving the directions. When getting off at Osaka (Umeda) station, find the tourist information center.

Have fun![/QUOTE]

Mak Daddy,

I looked at the map and it looks right. There are many 無料相談所(soap land information office) near it, I am sure if you mention the name of the place someone will give you directions. Name of the shop is エステ桃花園(esute toukaen). I'm looking forward to hear from you about the service.

Another map :

[url]http://www.f-navi.co.jp/kintarou/map.htm[/url]

Their homepage

[url]http://www.f-navi.co.jp/kintarou/index.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]Gifuboy:

Thanks for the heads up. That sounds like a good place, and I will give it a try. However, why don't people include the addresses for these places? Yea, addresses in Japan are a pain in the ass, but it is better than trying to navigate by 'left at the taxi, and right at the smell of the udon'. Especially once you get used to using Japanese addresses, there is a sort of bizarre logic to them.

I called and the guy said the address is Matsunoki Bldg. 11-2 Doyama-cho; Kita-ku, Osaka or 大阪北区堂山町11-2松木ビル. I am not sure of those characters for the building name. That is just a guess.

Here is the link on the map: [url]http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34.70028&lon=135.50730083&sc=1&mode=map&type=scroll[/url]

Does that look right? Thanks again.

Mak[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]Here is the link on the map: [url]http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?lat=34.70028&lon=135.50730083&sc=1&mode=map&type=scroll[/url]

Does that look right? Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Yep. That's the place.

Mak: actually I did post the address earlier to "Kinbana", er which I now think is actually Kinka now that I look at the card. Either way, Kinka and Toukakoen are right beside each other so either address works. Like I mentioned in my earlier posts, there are about six shops here that you can visit (two on the ground floor of the two buildings, and more if you use the elevator) so there are plenty of places to check out. We've gotten reports on Kinka (3F) and Toukakoen (1F). Anyone wanna TOFT and try out the other places? I've never been to them.

[QUOTE=Saint Of Killers]Mak: actually I did post the address earlier to "Kinbana", er which I now think is actually Kinka now that I look at the card. Either way, Kinka and Toukakoen are right beside each other so either address works. Like I mentioned in my earlier posts, there are about six shops here that you can visit (two on the ground floor of the two buildings, and more if you use the elevator) so there are plenty of places to check out. We've gotten reports on Kinka (3F) and Toukakoen (1F). Anyone wanna TOFT and try out the other places? I've never been to them.[/QUOTE]

Take care of which floor you are on or you might end up with a real surprise...there is a New Half place there as well.

[Just in case New Half is unclear to you newbies and think it is similar to half&half, well...let's just say the lower half won't be what you expected]

[QUOTE=Lion]Take care of which floor you are on or you might end up with a real surprise...there is a New Half place there as well.[/QUOTE]

Well, that certainly sounds like something different.

[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Mak Daddy,

Their homepage

[url]http://www.f-navi.co.jp/kintarou/index.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

That is one hell of a home page. I suddenly felt a bit more 'urgency' to visit. God bless the Internet.

Gifuboy: I tried to PM you, but it says you are not able to receive PMs. Please send me a PM, or change your settings and let me know. Thanks.

Mak

[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Their homepage

[url]http://www.f-navi.co.jp/kintarou/index.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Huh. Didn't know they had a website.

Having actually seen a lot of these girls in person, all I can say is: incredible photoshopping.

I'm tempted to go again myself (can't deny the great price). Again gentlemen, I would recommend avoiding Koko, she wasn't very good.

As someone mentionned, yes there are many shops in the same building. I went to the 5th floor and I was told all girls are gaijin(i.e western), the guy told me there was no FS so I passed.

Regarding Toukaen I like their "motto", Cheap, Young, Pretty, Glamour and good service. As far as I'm concerned I give them 5/5.

Mak Daddy :

I was in Osaka for a vacation(I live in Yokohama), I really envy you guys living in Osaka! I am not a paying member so I can't receive/send PM sorry. I really wish such a place existed somewhere in Kanto.

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]Well, that certainly sounds like something different.

That is one hell of a home page. I suddenly felt a bit more 'urgency' to visit. God bless the Internet.

Gifuboy: I tried to PM you, but it says you are not able to receive PMs. Please send me a PM, or change your settings and let me know. Thanks.

Mak[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gifuboy]

Mak Daddy :

I was in Osaka for a vacation(I live in Yokohama), I really envy you guys living in Osaka! I am not a paying member so I can't receive/send PM sorry. I really wish such a place existed somewhere in Kanto.[/QUOTE]

電話頂戴：零九零ノ五四六九ノ七六七五

宜しく。

マック

I had an inexplicable urge for a non-Japanese girl yesterday. I've lived in Japan for a few years now, and I guess after so many Japanese girls, I came to want a change of scenery. I know that Russian/European girls are YMMV...but then again so are Japanese girls, so you never know. I was willing to give it a shot at least.

Searching databases in Osaka, I was only able to find two listings. A delivery health place called Real ([url]http://www.real-net.tv/index2.html[/url] - all in Japanese) and a place called Amuse ([url]http://www.amuse-osaka.com/top/index.html[/url]) which was hotel and delivery health, with various shops around Osaka. I'm not really a deli-heru man, so I decided to try Amuse. There were two locations in Umeda - one in a place I'll call "Bunny Field", and another in Doyama - I suspected it was very close, or even in the same building, as Toukaen (the Chinese place). The Bunny Field place had more girls I was interested in, so I decided to try that one first, and if I struck out there, head to Doyama. If that was a no-go too, then I could always just pop into Toukaen.

I went out to Bunny Field, but after an hour of searching I couldn't find the place. After using my cell to figure out the name of the building it was in and get a better map, I figured out why - it was in the 5th floor of a somewhat bland building, and there were no signs or advertisements whatsoever. It was like they didn't want to be found. I went up to the 5th floor and found the room they're supposed to be in. There was an open door and what seemed like a reception area, but that was about it. Certainly didn't look like any service shop. I decided to err on the side of caution and phoned the shop number. A Japanese guy answered, and I asked if they were open for business and if I could confirm their location. He told me they were open, but they didn't accept foreigners (I'd only said two sentences but he found me out...). Oh well, no use pushing the issue. I walked to Doyama, which isn't far from Bunny Field at all.

I love Doyama. It's so sleazy.

I was right - it was in the same building as Toukaen (I see now that this is the place that Gifuboy wandered into). Again, no advertisements, signs, nothing. On the 5th floor there was a slightly open door, and a single Japanese guy. I greeted him and asked if it would be okay. He said yeah, and I went in. "This is a place that specializes in foreign women, you know." he tells me, and I told him I knew, I'd looked it up on the internet. He checks to see if I know what I've wondered into, and I tell him I do. He also points out that this is "health", which means only BJ, no FS. I tell him I know that as well. His fears eased, he tells me he has no problems with me...but he'll have to check with the girls, as many of them don't want to accept funny guys. As I'm thinking it, the guy verbalizes my thoughts - "And that's pretty odd, isn't it? They're foreigners themselves, and their boyfriends are foreign, but they don't want to service foreign guys."

He has me sit down while he phones the girls who are working tonight. One or two are unavailable - already busy. One declines - too embarrasing, she apparently says. Another one declines - fear of me being too big. The guy finally finds a girl who is willing to do it, but apparently not without a few reservations. He shows me a picture of the girl - not entirely bad, but that's post-photoship after all. He shows me the courses - he recommends the 60 minute course at 18,000 yen, plus 3,000 for the hotel. I'd kind of lost my motivation at this point - but the guy had really gone to bat for me, something that's really rare among Japanese touts. Besides, this is what I'd come to do. So I accepted, but asked to do the 45 minute course at 16,000 yen as I didn't have much time.

The guy and I start to talk for a bit. His name is Yoshi. He asks if I'm familiar with the industry, and I say that I am. "But you probably get turned down quite a bit, huh?" he says. "Most guys are worried that foreigners don't speak Japanese and don't understand the system and might bring the whole thing down. If you can speak Japanese and say that you've been to these places before, usually that helps to calm down both the tout and the girl". I tell him that I understood that there were various other reasons why foreigners get denied as well. "See, me," he says, "I think everybody should be able to play. White, black, yellow, whatever. We're all guys, right? And when I go overseas, I wanna play around too, so I certainly understand that feeling." Yoshi is a very cool cat in my book.

After waiting 5 minute s (as per the girl's request) we head off for the hotel. Yoshi again points out how weird it is for foreign men not to be able to get service at a shop with foreign women. Regarding the girls, he says that a lot of them are smaller than he imagined foreign girls to be. Like, he wanted to get "bigger" girls like "Britney Spears", but they always ended up kind of Japan-sized. "And so they don't really like big cocks, and prefer Japanese customers". He also explains that some of it has to do with the police. "The police think, if you've got a shop with foreign women and foreign guys patronize it...why is this happening on Japanese soil? Go back to your own country and do that there. So they're always watching us very carefully. In fact, the entire industry sits of the edge of a needle, and it would'nt take much for everything to come crashing down. You just never know if one day you wake up and you're gonna be out of a job."

Yoshi talks more as we walk. Turns out he's also the landlord for an apartment building where many foreign residents reside in Osaka. He explains it can be difficult, because foreigners have selfish requests. "I'll get a call at 3AM...someone's air conditioner broke, come and fix it. But, y'know...it's 3AM man! What can I do at 3AM? If I don't do things the way they want it, they can get pretty angry." He also explains that this is a reason why its tough for foreigners to break into the sex industry. "They're pretty big...I mean, I'm not small myself, but nobody wants to be threatened. They always say "yakuza, yakuza"...whatever. At the end of the day, we're just trying to make our living."

We get to the hotel, and Yoshi helps me pick out a room. He decides to give me an extra 5 mins of service, for 50 minutes. He gives me his card and tells me to drop by the office anytime...even if I don't want to pick out a girl, just come and say hi, as the job gets boring. I head up to my room and wait for the girl to arrive. Its a very, very nice hotel, one I wouldn't mind going to again. After weaving through so many side streets, I'm not sure which one it was - just somewhere in Doyama.

After 5 minutes, the girl I picked...er...the girl who would have me arrived. Her name was Sari. ([url]http://www.amuse-osaka.com/gals/sari/index.html[/url]) She looked decent in clothes, but as the clothes came off, the photoshopping became more and more evident. I could tell she used to be a real hottie...back when she actually was 26. Now, she had to at least be in her 30's if not 40's. Oh well, it still wasn't too bad.

After the shower we had some various play on the bed including a little sumata, and then CBJ. She let me finger her, but no DATY. After I popped, she lay down next to me and talked for awhile about various things. She said she was from Columbia - exposing another lie on the website (which says she's from Romania). She took a few phone calls in Spanish afterwards, which confirmed that. I probably could have gotten another shot in...but I felt satisfied, and I really didn't have the time. We showered again, dressed, and left the hotel.

Overall, not bad, but not great either. It was good for getting the foreigner lust out of my system at least. I'm probably done with European/Western girls again for awhile, although I would like to pop into Toukaen in the near future. I think I will also pay Yoshi a visit. He was a really, really cool guy, and it seems like there's a lot about the industry I could learn from him.

I am looking for girls near JR Nara station. Preferably mature and or chubby. Does anyone know where I can go? Also, I dont speak Japanese.

I appreciate all your help.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]I had an inexplicable urge for a non-Japanese girl yesterday. I've lived in Japan for a few years now, and I guess after so many Japanese girls, I came to want a change of scenery. I know that Russian/European girls are YMMV...but then again so are Japanese girls, so you never know. I was willing to give it a shot at least.
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Though the experience was so-so, the info from your tencho was worth it. Curious which language you were using with La Colombiana.



Here is another couple reports from 2 years back. The hotel health was cheap at first look, but she wanted another 10,000 for FS.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=378322&highlight=russian#post378322[/url]

[QUOTE=Azure Knight] After 5 minutes, the girl I picked...er...the girl who would have me arrived. Her name was Sari. ([url]http://www.amuse-osaka.com/gals/sari/index.html[/url]) She looked decent in clothes, but as the clothes came off, the photoshopping became more and more evident. I could tell she used to be a real hottie...back when she actually was 26. Now, she had to at least be in her 30's if not 40's. Oh well, it still wasn't too bad.

After the shower we had some various play on the bed including a little sumata, and then CBJ. [/QUOTE]

Nice report AK. Yoshi certainly does sound like a cool guy. But one detail you omitted - what about that "vacuum fellatio" mentioned in the description of Sari's specialty? If not, can we trust the blood type being an A? Dang!

[QUOTE=Lion]Though the experience was so-so, the info from your tencho was worth it. Curious which language you were using with La Colombiana.[/QUOTE]
We spoke in Japanese. She didn't know English and I don't know Spanish. She said she'd been in Japan for 4 years but her Japanese wasn't that great - I had to keep my sentences very basic or else she wouldn't understand.

And vacuum BJ? It wasn't bad but it didn't strike me as "vacuum" either.

The tencho was definitely a great find. He told me that if I ever needed anything to just ask him. I doubt I'd want to have another go with Sari again (or any of the other girls there), but he could probably help me get into other shops with his connections, or if nothing else, having a Japanese guy willing to vouch for me.

This week SPA Magazine has an article on how to play with little money, and they recommend (for Japanese readers) to always bring a can of coffee for the guy at the reception (page 76). Next thing you know he becomes Tencho and does you all kind of favors, since careers in the business can be rather quick.

I don't know if that approach would work for us as well, just thought it might be worth noting in the context of your report.

Definitely their job is not always easy. It is not much fun being rejected. But the person who needs to tell me about that policy probably doesn't enjoy it either.

Thanks for your report. It is nice to hear about good guys on the other side of the counter.

[QUOTE=Azure Knight]Overall, not bad, but not great either. It was good for getting the foreigner lust out of my system at least. I'm probably done with European / Western girls again for awhile, although I would like to pop into Toukaen in the near future. I think I will also pay Yoshi a visit. He was a really, really cool guy, and it seems like there's a lot about the industry I could learn from him.[/QUOTE]

I found a website (Wiki style) that has the information about the Red Light Districts in Kansai area, including Tobita, Matsushima, etc. Unfortunately, it is in Japanese and it will take pretty much time to translate it, BUT it has maps and prices/hour can be guessed by looking numbers.

[url]http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?FrontPage[/url]

Districts are divided by Prefecture on the left side. I hope it helps, and people who go there can share their experiences. If I have some free time I will try to translate some of the info, and of course will try to go around.

Good Luck!

[QUOTE=Arje79]I found a website (Wiki style) that has the information about the Red Light Districts in Kansai area, including Tobita, Matsushima, etc. Unfortunately, it is in Japanese and it will take pretty much time to translate it, BUT it has maps and prices/hour can be guessed by looking numbers.

[url]http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?FrontPage[/url]

Districts are divided by Prefecture on the left side. I hope it helps, and people who go there can share their experiences. If I have some free time I will try to translate some of the info, and of course will try to go around.

Good Luck![/QUOTE]


You can try this website: [url]http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/web/[/url]

You put the URL from the site you want to translate to English in, and then make sure the Japanese to English button is selected (just below the place to put the URL it's the button to the right), and then hit return. It opens up a new window with a machine translation of the page you entered. The translations are far from perfect (any native speaker of English can see the problems right away even if you don't understand Japanese) but you can get a good distance this way if you can't read any Japanese. It works for some websites and not others, in my experience. But it's worth a try. I tried it for the above website and it worked pretty well. I'll post this and related info in the translation forum as well for others.

Stew2

Some sad news: Tomo no longer works in Tobita.

I saw this coming when she mentioned changing her hours due to her nursing job, and when she said she had no customers in the daytime. I'd hoped to pay her a visit tonight and ask her about her future at the shop, but when I phoned in the mamasan told me she'd quit. I'd also wanted to get some sort of contact info, so that we could hopefully work out a private arrangement, but I was too slow.

Tomo was truly magnificent, and I'm saddened to hear this. I only know she's quit that particular shop in Tobita. If any of you happen to stumble across her in your mongerings, please do report it. I'd love to find her again.

Also, reading on the message board for Tobita (in Japanese), it looks like Mari has vanished as well. I sent her an email a few minutes ago, but come to think of it I haven't heard from her in awhile. According to one post, the rumor is she took some pills and tried to commit suicide, and is in the hospital now. Wow.

Man, all my great options are just vanishing.

Nice web site! Thanks for that.

[QUOTE=Arje79]I found a website (Wiki style) that has the information about the Red Light Districts in Kansai area, including Tobita, Matsushima, etc. Unfortunately, it is in Japanese and it will take pretty much time to translate it, BUT it has maps and prices/hour can be guessed by looking numbers.

[url]http://www.tokyosecret.tv/wiki/index.php?FrontPage[/url]

Districts are divided by Prefecture on the left side. I hope it helps, and people who go there can share their experiences. If I have some free time I will try to translate some of the info, and of course will try to go around.

Good Luck![/QUOTE]

This actually works really well in a lot of situations in Japan, from bicycle repair shops to security guards. I think part of why it works so well here is because tips are so unusual, money would be an insult, but the thought is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Friendly Gaijin]This week SPA Magazine has an article on how to play with little money, and they recommend (for Japanese readers) to always bring a can of coffee for the guy at the reception (page 76).
[/QUOTE]

I finally made it to this place. I brought a buddy, and we each had a girl. Mine was named Yukimi, and she was from Hong Kong. Her English was excellent, which is a strike against a woman in Japan as far as I am concerned. However, she was really lovely to speak with. She warned me that if I see her out and about not to mention where we met because she would be embarrassed in front of her foreign friends.

The sex however was another matter: horrible. She would not do anything, but I enjoyed it just the same. Fuck, I must be getting old.

Also, speaking of old fuckers, the old fucker at the door is a complete asshole. Afterwards, my buddy and I went to a bar, and met this French guy in town for one night, and he wanted me to show him the place, so I took him back. The old guy was saying shit like, "Who is willing to fuck a foreigner?" I was going to go for a second round, but the old guy was such an asshole. As soon as I walked up, he called Yukimi out like she was the only one who could talk to me (my Japanese is virtually native in conversational situations)

I think the problem was that Yukimi was complaining the entire time that my dick was too big, and afterwards was saying that to the staff. I am average (at least that is what I tell myself!). I was complaining to the boss about the old guy, and the boss said they had trouble with the old guy all the time. He said to ask for him, Mr. Hongai, if I have any trouble in the future. I went away, and telephoned and asked for Mr. Hongai. He told me to wait 10 minutes and come back, but I was too tired and went home. Definitely a good place, and I will return, but I will call first. I would give them 4 or 4.5 out of five because I like Japanese or Koreans better.

Anybody been to Imazato? I heard there is some fun out there.

Looks like I am tying the knot. Anybody up for a bachelor party?

Mak

[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Regarding Toukaen I like their "motto", Cheap, Young, Pretty, Glamour and good service. As far as I'm concerned I give them 5/5.
[/QUOTE]

Sure enough, I made this mistake. I was a bit drunk, plus the signs are misleading because the Toukakoen sign is above the sign for the place on the second floor. You should have seen the look I got when I got off the elevator on the second floor. I quickly realized my mistake and made a hasty retreat downstairs.

[QUOTE=Lion]Take care of which floor you are on or you might end up with a real surprise...there is a New Half place there as well.

[Just in case New Half is unclear to you newbies and think it is similar to half&half, well...let's just say the lower half won't be what you expected][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]Looks like I am tying the knot. Anybody up for a bachelor party?

Mak[/QUOTE]
Congrats! I may be in the same boat as you this year. I'd be up for some final debauchery.

Final? Who am I kidding!

I had a much better experience last night at Toukaen than you did apparently. Report in a minute.

As I mentioned before, suddenly I'd lost my two best options in Tobita - Tomo who was just fantastic all around, and Mari, who lacked GFE but at least looked sensational. Losing Tomo is a bit of a shock, as she was honestly one of the best girls I've ever had the good fortune of meeting. The news prompted me to go search for new options. Tobita was always a bit of a gamble - would I even be accepted? I thought back to Toukaen - I'd wanted to give it another shot, and this seemed like a good opportunity to do so. Ultimately, I decided to give Tobita a try first - it was a cold, rainy day, mid-week, and not around any paydays. I figured there wouldn't be as many people, which is ideal for us foreign mongers. I'd keep my standards high, and if I struck out I'd just head to Toukaen. One of the last times I'd gone to Tobita it had been full of guys, and I'd gotten zero calls. Had it not been for my pre-arrangement with Mari, I doubt I would have gotten in at all that night. But I remembered a few months ago when I succeeded at two shops with two different girls (Mako and Suzu), so the situation wasn't totally hopeless.

As I anticipated, there weren't very many guys there. A lot of the shops on the outer perimeter were closed. Most of these are the shops with the old women, so no big loss there. I headed for main street - I passed by Mari's shop, and even if the mamasan recognized me, she didn't call out to me. Passing by Tomo's old shop, neither a girl or mamasan were present. No choice but to keep moving ahead. I wasn't getting any calls - most mamasan would kind of turn their heads away from me, or they'd start to call out, realize that I was foreign, and then catch themselves and laugh over their "mistake". Some girls would actively look away, while a few kind of smiled at me. I decided that if I were to make a second run down this street, I'd try talking to the girls who smiled at me. This is how I succeeded with Mako a few months ago.

As I walked there were a pair of Japanese guys behind me, also making the rounds. I figured that whatever calls I might have gotten were being snuffed out by the presence of these guys. I tried to slow down and let them pass me - they did, but ended up stopping and I overtook them again. I couldn't walk too fast, or else I really wouldn't get any calls. The guys were really pissing me off. I walked down to the end of the street, made a left, and started to come back up one of the streets parallel to the main street in order to get away. I hadn't been on the parallel street long until I heard a mamasan call out to me. I looked into the shop - the girl was nice looking. Dyed hair, a bit of a gal flavor. I've got an invite, the girl looks good - what more do I need? I went in.

As I was taking my shoes off, the mamasan says that I've come here before. Have I? I confess that I'm not really familiar with the shop names. She says she definintely remembers me. I go upstairs with the girl. She's a little short, and wearing lingerie with a balloon flare, so I'm not sure what kind of body she's hiding underneath. The shop does start to look a little familiar, and I realize I probably have been here before. It was either Mako or Suzu, but I couldn't remember which one. We go into her room, and she asks me about pricing. I don't want to waste money on what could be a dud, so I pick the 20 minute course at 16,000 yen. This was the basic course. Is it just me, or are more shops phasing out the 15 minute, 11,000 yen course? The girl goes away with the money, and as I wait for her to return, I notice a "Tobita 50th Anniversary" calendar on the wall.

She comes back with the tea and sweets and introduces herself as Makoto, giving me her card. We chat for a bit - the usual banter when meeting a girl for the first time. I was worried about chat time cutting into play time, but Makoto stopped the chat at a decent point and moved us to the futon. She'd noted how tall and large I am, and sort of worried that I'd be big down there as well. She apologized in advance if she wasn't able to take me in. She took off her clothes, and I saw that she had quite a nice body. She got right to business with a CBJ. After awhile, she lubed herself up and went to get on top. I asked if she wanted to 69, but she apologized, saying she'd already put on the lube. Oh well, next time. She gets on top and rides me for a bit - her pussy feels nice, and is really warm. At one point, I go to suck on her tits, but she stops me - "Tits are no good" she says. I don't press her as to why. A little disappointing, but oh well. Also, some light kissing, but no DFK.

After a while, we switch to missionary. Part of the way through, she says "itai!" (it hurts) and stops me. I ask if she's OK, and she says she just dried up and puts on some more lube. "I use this too much, so it dries out quickly" she explains. Not exactly what I want to hear, but OK. We continue with no problems after that. I'd hoped to do some other positions, but I don't know - maybe it was the lighting, the angle, something, but Makoto looked absolutely beautiful on her back. It was a great sight. I kept her in missionary, and she got off shortly before I did. She had me lie back down while she took care of the clean-up.

We both got dressed, and as she put her clothes on she repeats that I've been to this shop before. She says that the girl I saw the last time was Suzu (that solves that mystery) and starts telling me when Suzu works (I immediately forgot). I asked about when she works - she told me her days off (forgot those too!) and that she works pretty much from 9AM to 11PM, with a break around 5PM. Wow. I do know at least she works Wednesdays, which also happens to be Suzu's day off. After we got dressed she continued to talk some more, with her asking me various things about my life here. She tells me that her skin used to be pretty dark too, from always being outside. "I liked to play around" she explains, and told me that sometimes in Roppongi the African guys would mistake her for a black girl. Wow, now that's dark! And, any girl who liked to play in Roppongi was definintely foreigner friendly. Works for us.

Interesting though that she knew about my session with Suzu. Maybe she'd been sitting in the genkan when we finished up? Or perhaps Suzu or the mamasan had been talking about me. Positive things, I hope. Remember that Suzu is the girl with whom the condom broke and I jizzed inside of her. So hopefully my fame at this shop isn't how I got her pregnant. I really really hope at least.

As the buzzer had gone off twice while we were talking, we went downstairs. Only the 20 minute course, but I was able to get in a good session with plenty of chatting time. The mamsan told me to take my time in putting on my shoes, and even handed me a package of mints on my way out. I thought that was very nice of her. I left thanking them both and assuring them I'd be back.

The name of the shop is 龍子. If you go into Tobita from the street with the "Bread and Food" convenience store, take the directions that lead you to "Main Street" - walk straight down, cross the big street with the gas station on your right, then take a right at the next street. Walk under the overpass - if you keep straight here, this leads to main street. However, to get to 龍子, turn left after you walk under the overpass, and then turn right on the next street (should be parallel to main street). The shop I believe is on the left side. Apparently, foreigner friendly, although the girl who was sitting in the genkan when I finished up with Makoto sort of kept her head down the entire time I was there.

Makoto's only average on the GFE (perhaps will warm to you given time?). Has a nice body and is attractive if you like the gal look. She looks absolutely stunning on her back. Suzu isn't quite as attractive, but if you've ever wanted to ram a petite girl hard...I don't think I've ever fucked a girl as hard as I fucked Suzu. Just be sure the condom doesn't break. Suzu's GFE is also better than Makoto's.

Overally, I enjoyed my session with Makoto, but my night of mongering wasn't over yet.

i'd just finished an overall enjoyable session with makoto in tobita, but this really only served to invigorate me. in my mind, i'd sort of figured that i would end up at toukaen, after striking out at tobita. i hadn't struck out, but i was still thinking about toukaen. it wasn't too out of the way on my way home, and it was cheap to boot. my experience with koko had been disappointing, but some of the other guys here seemed to have great experiences there. i decided to swing by and give it another chance.

i walk up the hall, and the guys spot me pretty quickly. they lead me to the couch and confirm that i can speak japanese, and 10,000 yen for 40 minutes. the guy says he'll bring out the girls. as he goes into the office area, i can see a few girls craning their heads around the door to get a peek at me. a minute or so later, three girls come out and stand in front of me. "which would you like?" the guy asks. only three? oh well. all three looked pretty good. last time, i'd made the mistake of picking the most outspoken girl, hoping that energy would carry over on the bed, and it didn't. sometimes when you get the lineup, there's a girl who just kind of looks at you, and maybe doesn't say much or doesn't try to get all up in your face, but you just get that vibe - "pick me!" she's saying in her head. i was looking for that tonight, and i seemed to get it from the girl on the far left. she was also quite attractive, so it was an easy choice. she took me by the hand and led me into the back. i could hear a girl nearby getting the treatment. we'd barely gotten into the small little room when one of her friends comes through the curtain. the friend said something in chinese - i know no chinese, but i figure what she said was along the lines of "i want in on this too!" a very brief discussion in chinese, then the girl i picked asked if i wanted to do a threesome. "they're very common here" she explains. the friend is also attractive, and at this point the girl i picked starts pawing at me a little bit. "just an extra 10,000 yen, and you can have the two of us for 40 minutes." the friend isn't pawing at me, but i feel the vibe from her as well.

i've done some mongering in thailand. a lot of times, you'll get girls who approach you very aggressively, and even in pairs. i tried it only to find that, much like koko, they spend all their energy in the sale - once they've got you, they really don't care. that was making me weary of this situation, but honestly, after the session with makoto i can't say the blood had fully returned to my brain. the two girls kept pushing the threesome - i pulled out my wallet to show i didn't have enough on me. they asked if i had my bank cards on me. i said i had my credit card. they both said that the shop doesn't accept credit cards, and they seemed willing to let the matter drop there. but they'd already sort of sold me on the 3p, so i asked if it was okay to go get money from the bank. they agreed to that, and asked one of the guys up front to go with me to a convenience store. we walked to the nearby lawson, with some small talk as i pulled out the extra 10,000.

i got back to toukaen, and both girls were waiting for me. the girl i picked again took me by the hand and led me to the small room. "okay, get undressed" she instructed, and i started to get out of my clothes. she stood on the bed and was out of her clothes in a hurry. the friend also undressed, but kept her bra and shorts on for whatever reason. as i undressed, the girl i picked seemed fascinated by my body, and kept saying things in chinese to the friend (i need to start studying chinese). the friend, yume, led me to the showers while the girl i picked, youko, stayed behind to wait.

yume showered me, still wearing her bra and shorts. she took me back to the room and had me sit up on the bed. youko came up from behind me, again seemingly fascinated with my body. however, soon the girls start laughing about something, looking at the wall behind me. i look as well, and the fingertips of the girl next door are visible as she grabs the top of the wall. discussion in chinese between the three, but it doesn't take a language genius to figure that conversation out - what are you doing over there?

back to the three of us, both youko and yume marveled over my japanese abilities, something they'd been doing since i got there. i explained that i'd been living her for awhile, and studied for a few years before that. youko says that its rare for americans to speak japanese - just yesterday, there was an american there, but he couldn't speak any japanese. youko and yume were pretty fluent in japanese - thinking back, i don't think koko was that fluent. youko says she's pleased she can communicate with me, before giving me a dfk and having me lie down on the bed. i was expecting a massage like i'd gotten the last time - nope. they got straight to business.

yume had put a condom on me in record time, and was giving me a cbj. youko stayed up front and alternated between licking my nipples, and dfk. after a few minutes, they switched up - youko hadn't seen me erect up until this point, and she seemed happy about my size. she pulled the condom off, and i thought she was going to put on another one, but instead she attacked my cock with an amazing bbbj. meanwhile, yume and i sucked on each other's nipples while i fingered her. "you want to put it in?" yume asks. well, that's a question with an easy answer. i say i do, and youko wastes no time in slapping on a raincoat and hopping on top. i feel her breasts with my left hand, keep my right hand for fingering yume which licking her tits. yume uses her free hand to play with my balls as youko rides me.

after a few minutes its switching time again. again, i'm amazed at the speed at which these girls can take off and remove condoms. yume gets on top of me and rides while youko lays at my side for tit licking and dfk. yume says she's going to cum, and upon hearing that i take over motion duties, and give yume dfk and tit licking while youko licks my nipples and plays with my balls with her free hand. yume cums, and with all this stimulation i can't hold out either and i cum as well. the girls both clean me up, and lay at my sides afterwards. "you feel like a king, huh?" youko says. i was hoping to get another shot in, but youko says unfortunately there's not enough time. "and i really wanted you to fuck me in missionary too" she says, "you gotta do that next time."

i go to the showers with both girls this time for a final clean-up. youko continues to paw at me, saying a have a sexy ass, and even biting it! "i just love foreigners, love em!" she says many times. she also continues to give me dfk's here and there. we finish the shower, go back and get dress, and youko is still all over me. "you're coming back, right?" she gives me a card for the shop and writes their names on it. i ask when do they work - everyday, they say. well, that's easy. both youko and yume see me off as i leave.

overall, absoultely incredible experience. i am a fan of toukaen now. or, at least of these two girls. wonderful threesome for 40 minutes with 2 showers and the damage is only 20,000 yen. that's just...astounding. i've paid more for less time with just one girl. i will be going back as soon as possible.

the only problem is, as you can imagine space is a bit cramped. i checked their website and they don't seem to have any delivery options, but perhaps if i become a good enough customer i can negotiate to move the festivities to one of the nearby love hotels.

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Any tech guys out there?