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OK, let me start this Italy new forum.
I have thought to lay down some general info for foreigners (especially English speaking) that want to have a good (and useful) stay in Italy.
To other italians here: please correct this post with your info.
The info are for all Italy, obviously there are some variations between zones.
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Prices
1 Euro=90 cents (USA dollars)
in a car:
HJ/BJ from 20 to 30
Half and Half from 30 to 50
parlours:
no parlours in Italy, our law forbid the "organized prostitution"
room (incall, with at least 2 girls in)
HJ/BJ from 30 to 50
Half and Half from 40 to 100
hotel (not the same of outcalls, the girl bring you to a hotel she knows)
HJ/BJ from 30 to 50 (plus 20 for the room)
Half and Half from 40 to 100 (plus 20 for the room)
escorts
from 100 to 500 (not all the night, normally)
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....extras:
BBBJ: 5% of good chances that the girl accept it, and generally you have to double the fee
Anal: 15% of good chances that the girl accept it, and generally you have to double the fee
other (e.g. SM) 15% of good chances that the girl accept it, and generally you have to double the fee
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General situation
Prostitution in Italy is illegal (at least it has to be), but no one can prosecute you if you go for an incall, or outcall.
You can (but you have to be so misfortuned) risk a little if you use an incall with more than one girl (no matter YOU want TWO, is enough that the incall room HOSTS TWO girls)
Other words for car ...sports...: police can arrest you if they see you naked (or partially naked) in a car with a pro. You risk (it vary from zone to zone) from 200 to 600 Euros.
Anyway, this is not common, you have to be a really nut to jump in this shit.
A suggestion in case you are in the car with pro, and a police car is approaching. NEVER LET THE pro JUMP OFF the car!!! If you let the pro to exit your car, you'll risk to be arrested for "invite to prostitution" [don't know the exact term in English].
Anyway, all these bad things need a good dose of misfortune, or need that you are completely nut... :-) In 30 years I never experienced this, never!
Oh, another thing: NEVER TIP the policemen, you risk to be arrested!
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Some ....deep....enjoy info
These statistics are mine, but can show the general situation in Italy.
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Quality
In the car:
10% of good service
40% of average service
20% of bad service
20% of really bad service (just barracudas)
Incall and outcalls (outcalls UNDER 200/300Euros):
10% of very good service
30% of good service
30% of average service
20% of bad service
10% of really bad service (just barracudas)
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Nationality of pros:
streetwalkers:
15% Italian (yes, it's true!)
15% South American
20% balcanic (Jugoslavia, Russia, Romania, etc.)
50% Africa (generally Nigeria)
Incall and outcalls (outcalls UNDER 200/300Euros):
25% Italian (yes, it's true again!)
40% South American
25% balcanic (Jugoslavia, Russia, Romania, etc.)
10% Africa (generally Nigeria)
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IMHO, I prefer South American. The chance of good (at least medium) service is the highest. The partecipation, the same.
They rank from a poor 5 to a good 8, and the age is between 20 and 35. If you are not Italian, I suggest these girls (incalls)
For those that loves to SEE a young (barely 18, rarely less) girls, the Africans are the best choice. But....BEWARE! I have written SEE, not fuck...:-) . Generally are the most unexperienced, hurried, non-partecipating barracudas pros in all the world!
Then, if you love to watch and touch perky tits, firm asses and so on.... good, but do not expect good works!
With balcanic girls is impossile to define a general rule.... You can be lucky, very lucky, or you can be completely lost with a unexperienced and barracudas girls (I think my dog is more experienced and nice...:-) )
And, if you are not a very rich person..... avoid outcalls in Italy. You risk very ugly and bad experiences, and you'll pay more and more.
My statistics says that is better to have 4 pros at medium price than a bad escort here,..... at least, two of the four are surely BETTER than the escort.
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General rules and "permits"
Pros let you:
15% lick her pussy (and with a third of them is NOT a good idea to do....)
50% touch the pussy (not deep fingering)
5% deep fingering
5% mouth to mouth kisses
10% sex without condom (normally to avoid if you don't know the pro, and you are a foreigner)
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Partecipating:
10% seems to partecipate deeply ("seems" is mandatory with pros ;-) )
25% seems that like to do it, may be just a few
40% are not completely off the topic..... and do not phone and chew gums.....
25% seems ...... dead
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English Language:
only the 5% of the pros can speak a minimum of English.
The exception are the Nigerians, that know a good/acceptable English.
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Information
Local newspaper (like Secondamano)
Internet (but very poor)
avoid to ask to the hotel personnel (perhaps in South Italy you can be more lucky)
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Words (little dictionary)
PRO=prostituta, puttana (all with offence)
...better: ragazza (means girl), ragazza per la notte (girl to spend the night with) /// good to ask to Hotels, without offence.
BJ=pompino
Suck=succhiare
Penis=cazzo (vulgar), pene
Ass= culo, sedere
Fuck= fottere, chiavare, scopare
(without) condom= (senza) preservativo
Pussy= figa(vulgar), passera, vagina
tits= tette, seni
hand= mano
handjob=sega, masturbare
sperm= sperma
to come (in)= venire (in)
kiss=bacio
I call the Police!= Chiamo la Polizia! / Chiamo i Carabinieri!
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Just an important note about spelling of the vowels in Italian
Differently from English, the vowels have the SAME sound in ALL the words in Italian.
You cannot be wrong if you spell (in any case, in any position, like this:
A= like O of MOTHER ..... with a touch of the A of CAT....
E= like E of BEST
I= like EE of MEET
O= like OH!
U= like OO of MOON
... no more vowels in italian... :-)
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at the moment I cannot remember other useful things...... see you the next time. Ciao
(oh, sorry for the poor English....)
RIC:
Excellent report on Italy, It is right on the mark. Your English is superbo.
However, there is one great risk you did not mention. Be very very extremely wary of Gypsy women with children everywhere you go, especially in Napoli, Pisa, and Roma. They will mob you begging and they will for sure pickpocket and get your pussy money.
No money, no figa (pussy) no succiare (BJ) no bella.
Ciao, Baybuss!
One little correction to what RIC wrote in his excellent post.
Prostitution per se is not illegal: it is illegal to favour it (favoreggiamento) to have economical benefits from prostitution (sfruttamento) and for prostitutes and clients to offer/ask to pay sex (addescamento).
De facto police can't do anything against you if you go with a girl in a closed room (if you do it in a car and are caught.....let's forget about it) to enjoy your life!
Unfortunately, they try to find out ways to combat prostitution indirectly, trying to demonstrate that someone is e.g. favouring illegal immigration or stopping his car where it is proibished.
Unfortunately, the mainly racist part of the italian government wants to fight pros from abroad making new laws to limit steet-prostitution...... let's hope the best .... I can't go to Romania ot at least in the Babylon in Vienna each time I want to have my fun!
PS
One question to RIC. I never found an italian pros. Are there nice italians under 25-30 and, if yes, where?
perfect ambroes. thanks for the correction.
italian pros under 25? hmmm... if you'll ever find them.... let me know...:-)
i think that italian pros of that age are all of two kind:
escorts (with highest prices)
and......if cheaper....
aids (at least hepatithis c) sufferers
in south italy may be (never done, and to do it you have to have a perfect control on your italian!) **** girls, offered from their parents (yes, sad, but it is!). but is not my choice.
...seems impossible, but i (100% italian!!!) don't remember my last time with an italian pro! and my ....hmm .... frequence.... is 1 time per week..... from 27 years....
just a bit more seriously, the last (bad, bad!) time i pick an italian pro was 7/8 years ago. don't worth, and too much risky.
instead.... if you have asked me for 50/70 years old italian pros..... there are still a lot but..... not my choice again (and think that's a strange choice for anyone :-) )
ciao
.....to buster cherry.
Sure I agree.
I didn't consider it, anyway, because of their extremely dirty and unpleasant kind.
But sure agree, beware from gypsies (in any European State)
and.... LOL.... thanks for the Italian language efforts
Ric
Regarding the Italian pros, this is exactly what I knew- never found one being "normal".
For younger ones (under 25) you have choice between highest price escorts (rare, ....extremely rare) or drug addicted "disperate" ready for a complete screening for infective diseases (you can find and recognise them e.g. in Milan near piazzale Loreto).
Regarding the over 40-50-60.... you can have a look e.g. in Voghera (PV) with some historical examples on in Genova (via del Campo... maybe).
Regarding the minors also this is sad ....very sad and true in S. Italy. From time to time mothers are arrested for this true crime! A prostitute should have the right to choose what she is doing!!!
RIC,
Thank you for such an excellent and comprehensive post on Italy! I thought there was no fun at all there until I read your post.
Could you please recommend an incall with these south american girls in Rome or something else similar? Here is my email if you don't want to post.
sonnyroche@yahoo.com
Thank you.
Thanks for kind words, Mr Wet Wooly
And sorry, but I am 400 miles far from Rome, I don't know addresses.
I think some other posters can help you
Ric,
My frind Buster says:
My Pleasure, Amigo!
Soy El Puntere Grandote'!
I yust want to add to RIC's real - trough post the advise to all of you guy's to avoid / or to be extremly attentive with TS along th roads, you'll find them at Night time (even in hookerfree areas) to ask you for a ride first, when they sit beside you they will start to look for a business - touching/screening you all over- sometime in a quiete rude way - be extremely careful or you will might find yourself without cellphone and with your vallet (if its still there) empty.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by merlin magician
[i]Ric,
My frind Buster says:
My Pleasure, Amigo!
Soy El Puntere Grandote'! [/i][/QUOTE]
.....ehm..... your friend buster thinks I'm Spanish?!? :-)
You have answered in Spanish dude! :-)
Ciao
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And I agree with Oezyboy, careful, careful!
Yo soy ..... Ahemm...... I am - sorry so much spanish in this forum- totally agreeing whith what Oetziboy told us! TS are extremely sticky and dangerous for your cell phones and vallets!
Once it happened to me that an extremely convincing one (feminine) tryed to enter my car and I had to be extremely rude to get him away (pepper spray .........)!
From that day if am approaching anyone with my car: doors locked + window semi-closed!
ah ... Oetzyboy are you coming from Simulaun like the most famuos ancient hunter-mummy found at the Italy/Austria border Oetzy?
This is an old post of mine, already appeared in the WSG.
I think it could be useful for the foreigners *****mongering in our country.
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I'm an italian, and I want to share my experience, expecially to help the foreigners.
First of all, please completely forget, disremember, obliterate, unlearn, consign to oblivion any idea you may have had to bang an italian pro.
You can find only two kind of italian pros: the fat-old-ugly streetwalker (almost disappeared) or the upscale (and orribly overpriced) escort (and usually only in the big cities).
So we have only a couple of options left:
1) street scene (the most commonly used in Italy)
2) classified ads (apartment scene)
3) nightclubs (very difficult and very expensive, forget it or take the first train to Prague instead)
The prices?
1) 25-30 EURO: In your car, oral sex followed by intercourse, all covered. Total time approx. 10-15 min, I guess (I'm not a clockwatcher :-).
You can ask for anal (double the above price), but not so many girl are willing to do it, maybe 5-10%.
2) 100-150 EURO: Incall, same rules of the 1), the difference is only in the comfort of a bed :-) and the longer session (but don't start drooling: is not sooo long, something like 20-30 min.)
You can usually bargain to 50 EURO for a quick suck and fuck. No shower before/after the intercourse, like in East Europe.
In either case, the decisive task is to swiftly detect (and avoid, of course) the pros with a bad attitude.
My hints:
1) Ask where she come from:
- Avoid africans (mostly nigerian): they're usually rude, cold and with a very bad attitude.
- Avoid albanians: like above, maybe slightly better.
- Best choices are, IMHO, the girls from (in the order below):
1) Ukraine
2) Romania and Moldova
3) Russia
... and generally speaking, girls from Eastern Europe, if you haven't already understand :-)
These eastern girls usually enjoy sex, and are very willing to be eaten (if you're into this kind of activity, like me ;-)
2) If you're looking for a streetwalker, from my experience:
- avoid heavy users of: cigarettes, cell phones, dressed like a TV (high boots, fur, heavy lipstick use, and so on ...) and that not smile.
- better ones usually have a low-profile look (dress casual, jeans or miniskirt), sometimes act a little shy, and the smiles they send to you, when you're making the deal, don't appear to be faked.
I beg your pardon for my poor english.
Best regards,
Banana Joe
Besides the very precious indications given by Banana Joe I'd like to add Uruguayan (and some other lovely S. Americans) girls to the list of excellence : they are sometimes more cute and warm than the eastern europeans described by Banana Joe! You can find them e.g. in Milan.
Buon divertmento a tutti!