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Been seeing those ads for years. They actually work that's why they put them out there. Anything for money or luxury or to get ahead of the next person. Knew a chick couple years ago, 24, light skinned, Tyra Banks type that had her man, 60yo, Daddy Warbucks type pick her up in the limo every day at work. After a couple months said she was leaving to go back to school at Wharton School of Business to get her MBA. Maybe she's the VP of ops now at Ann Klein or DKNY for all I know.
I read this at another forum and thought it was a good read. Didn't see it posted here.
www.fredoneverything.net
Driving Down Unknown Roads
The Feminization Of America
March 29, 2004
In the United States women are, I think for the first time in history, gaining real power. Often nations have had queens, heiresses, and female aristocrats. These do not amount to much. Today women occupy positions of genuine authority in fields that matter, as for example publishing, journalism, and academia. They control education through high school. Politicians scramble for their votes. They control the divorce courts and usually get their way with things that matter to them.
If this is not unprecedented, I do not know of the precedent. What will be the consequences?
Men have controlled the world through most of history so we know what they do: build things, break things, invent things, compete with each other fiercely and often pointlessly, and fight endless wars that seem to them justifiable at the time but that, seen from afar, are just what males do. The unanswered question is what women would, or will, do. How will their increasing influence reshape the polity?
Women and men want very different things and therefore very different worlds. Men want sex, freedom, and adventure; women want security, pleasantness, and someone to care about (or for) them. Both like power. Men use it to conquer their neighbors whether in business or war, women to impose security and pleasantness.
I do not suggest that the instinctive behavior of women is necessarily bad, nor that of men necessarily good. I do suggest that that the effects will be profound, probably irreversible, and not necessarily entirely to the liking of either sex. The question may be whether one fears most being conquered or being nicened to death.
Consider what is called the Nanny State by men, who feel smothered by it, but is accepted if not supported by women, who see it as protective and caring. (Yes, I know that there are exceptions and degrees in all of this, and no, I don?t have polling data.) Note that women are much more concerned than are men about health and well-being. Women worry about second-hand smoke, outlawing guns, lowering the allowable blood-alcohol levels for drivers, making little boys wear helmets while riding bicycles, and outlawing such forms of violence as dodge ball or the use of plastic ray guns. Much of this is demonstrably irrational, but that is the nature of instincts. (Neither is the male tendency to form armed bands and attack anyone within reach a pinnacle of reason.)
The implications of female influence for freedom, at least as men understand the word, are not good. Women will accept restrictions on their behavior if in doing so they feel more secure. They have less need of freedom, which is not particularly important in living a secure, orderly, routine, and comfortable life. They tend not to see political correctness as irritating, but as keeping people from saying unpleasant things.
The growing feminizaton accounts for much of the decline in the schools. The hostility to competition of any sort is an expression of the female desire for pleasantness; competition is a mild form of combat, by which men are attracted and women repelled. The emphasis on how children feel about each other instead of on what they learn is profoundly female (as for that matter is the associated fascination with psychotherapy). The drugging of male schoolchildren into passivity is the imposition of pleasantness by chemical means. Little boys are not nice, but fidgety wild men writ small who, bored out of their skulls, tend to rowdiness. They are also hard for the average woman to control and, since male teachers are absent, gelded, or terrified of litigious parents, expulsion and resort to the police fill the void. The oft-repeated suspension of boys for drawing soldiers or playing space war is, methinks, a quietly hysterical attempt to assuage formless insecurity.
The change in marriage and the deterioration of the family are likewise the results of the growth of political power of women. Whether this is good or bad remains to be seen, but it is assuredly happening. Divorce became common because women wanted to get out of unsatisfactory marriages. In divorce women usually want the children, and have the clout to get them. But someone has to feed the young. Thus the vindictive pursuit of divorced fathers who won?t or can?t pay child support. And thus the rise of the government as de facto father to provide welfare, tax breaks, daycare, and otherwise behave as a virtual husband.
When women entered a male workplace, they found that they didn?t much like it. Men told off-color jokes, looked at protuberant body parts, engaged in rough verbal sparring as a form of social interaction, and behaved in accord with rules that women didn?t and don?t understand. Women had the influence to change things, and did. Laws grew like kudzu to ban sexual harassment, whether real or imagined. Affirmative action, in addition to being a naked power grab, avoids competition and therefore making the losers feel bad. It degrades the performance of organizations, sometimes seriously, but performance is a preoccupation of males.
Men are capable of malignant government, whether authoritarian or totalitarian, as witness North Korea or the Russia of Stalin. I don?t know whether women would behave as badly if they had the power. (I?d guess not.) But women have their own totalitarian tendencies. They will if allowed impose a seamless tyranny of suffocating safety, social control, and political propriety. Men are happy for men to be men and women to be women; women want us all to be women.
The United States becomes daily more a woman?s world: comfortable, safe, with few outlets for a man?s desire for risk. The America of wild empty country, of guns and fishing and hunting, of physical labor and hot rods and schoolyard fights, has turned gradually into a land of shopping malls and sensible cars and bureaucracy. Risk is now mostly artificial and not very risky. There is skydiving and scuba and you can still find places to go fast on motorcycles, but it gets harder. Jobs increasingly require the feminine virtues of patience, accommodation to routine, and subordination of performance to civility. Just about everything that once defined masculinity is now denounced as ?macho,? a hostile word embodying the female incomprehension of men.
A case can be made that a feminized world would (or will) be preferable to a masculine. Perhaps. It is males who bomb cities and shoot people in Seven-Elevens. Yet the experiment has not been made. I suspect we will have the worst of both worlds: a nation in which men at the top engage in the usual wars and, a step below, women impose inutterable boredom.
Smut Villian:
As far as the nice guys finishing last, how assholes get laid, I think I have learned from experience. American women seem to go for guys that leave them wanting more.
Dran Reb:
That is said, seeing the "pussification" of America.
Meat Man:
Thanks for letting us know about that "18 F for a sugar daddy" ad. It may be only one ad, but I'm willing to bet there are THOUSANDS of women in this country looking for a guy to take care of them, etc. Maybe some men want to and can afford to do that. More power to them. But for those of us who just want sex, it is NOT good to pay anyone who won't guarantee to "take care of Little Head". We need to stop helping these women who may or may not put out. I say if you're paying, and you don't get what you want the first time, that should be the last time that b*tch takes money from you. Move on!
MP
Dran Reb
FASCINATING report! I often wonder what it would be like if women ran the planet, but I remember a few years ago, I got my answer. I was reading the newspaper (a major one, but it seems we're all fed the same crap by the news giants Matrix-style) and a woman who is prominent in her field of expertise (I forget her name or specialty) said that if WOMEN were in control and shaped history from the beginning INSTEAD of men, we'd all be wearing grass skirts and tending to our farming. She went on to pretty much say that the OVERWHELMING amount of scientific, philosophical and other advances would NOT have occured if women ruled the world. We'd pretty much stagnate mentally as a species. That's not to say that the rule of Men is without its flaws. We DO cause wars, we DO commit most crimes against our fellow man, and so on. However, I'd rather be free to determine my own destiny instead of having someone else wrest that control from me because they want to eliminate any unpleasantness that may occur while I'm on the path to self determination. I'd rather die after living a life I've lived through my own efforts than to experience the living death of just taking up space and being subjected to a non-life of a boring, safe, predetermined script written by those who have no internal flame.
Just my 2 cents...
[b] The answer to **18F looking for Sugar Daddy**[/b]
Dude seeking a SUGA MAMA - m4w - 36
Seeing as many c***rags post these type of things, I will do the same. I am seeking a rich older woman who would enjoy spoiling a nice young guy. I would like to be taken out to nice restaurants, shows, movies, shopping, and if you are really rich, I'd like a car!
For all this, you will be able to participate in the joys of watching me be happy and maybe, if you are attractive, I'll fuck you once in a while.
my name is ******. and I'm a sexy beast. Send a financial report, a list of things you can offer, and a pic. That will do just fine. Thanks.
I hope I get all kinds of responses...YAYY!
Right back atcha! :D
The media definitely does play a role in all of this, especially with regards to developing the attitude of most women, regardless of race, color, religion, or ethnicity in the US. The media also plays a role in conditioning males to take all the of bullsh*t crap that women dole out against men. Look at that apprentice show with Donald Trump and how the males took a lot of shit from the females and the men said absolutely. They said nothing in response because they were all conditioned in that nice Politically Correct double standard to simply continue to reciprocate respect even though the women treated them with disrespect. The women also used sexuality to win several times, in one episode where they had to manage a restaurant, the ladies were flirting with males passersby to get them into the restaurant as well as buy drinks. The men couldn't even try such an approach on female passersby because they would have gotten sued for sexual harassment.
CBGBConnisur:
In the end, it was the men that won. A man did win the contest, and another man was a runner up. Women can do all they want, but it's because a lot have to use their physical attributes to get up in the world that men will predominantly control. Two quotes:
(1) It's a man's world.
(2) Pussy makes the world go round.
MP
I disagree on the second one its more that money makes the world go round. You need money to get pussy.
Another saying a dude taught me a while back: "Women have HALF the money and ALL the PUSSY"
Except after a divorce. Then they have all the money [b]and[/b] all the pussy.
Mystic Pimp:[quote](1) It's a man's world.
(2) Pussy makes the world go round.[/quote] I would add number three...
(3) In a battle between you and the world, bet on the world.
Cheers,
Sporadic
Guys, there's a site you have GOT to see....
www.nomarriage.com
This shit is hilarious (it would be even more so if every bit of it wasn't so damned true)!!!
HOLY SHIT!!
Smut, I read only a few links on the site and it was like a sky of dark clouds was parted to reveal the light. After that light had shone down, I looked around and found that we are LEGION in number!
The strangling off of the sex (like a slow, methodical martial arts chokehold that induces a brain-dead state) really hammered home the message to me. I pitied the living death that is being experienced by the guys who have KIDS and a money-grubbing wife whose only joy in life is to sap the soul from the poor man unlucky enough to be married to her!
I really like the comparison regarding Western and non-western women. Reveling in their femininity is a turn-on that non-western women thankfully enjoy.
I'm still stunned... I can't compliment that site ENOUGH!
Smut Villian:
When I read this site, I feel like I am reading the holy grail! *LOL* I think one thing I would say about the opinions of that website is that foreign women could act like "Western" women if corrupted enough.
MP
So any opinions on what race/ethnicity of "Western" women to avoid? Or does it not matter, just avoid them all if you can?