American Women

Traveller, there ARE women who enjoy sex for its own reward, but also remember that there is ALWAYS in the back of said American woman's mind the ulterior motive (no matter how miniscule), be it money, control or what have you. American women are like a sexual OPEC. They have the power of the knowledge that men like sex and they make Machiavellian use of that knowledge. If she seemingly gives it freely, it is JUST THAT... it SEEMS she gives it freely, but she has an agenda and the "sexual favor" (DISPROPORTIONATELY returned on the man's part, I may add)will be called in later when you least expect it. However, unlike the United States, which has no alternative energy source, American men DO have an alternative source of QUALITY sexual gratification. Like my brehteren have suggested (Paddy, Dogg, etc) when American women hear of this alternative, its widespread use and satisfaction, they become infuriated that their power base has been discovered and in danger of eroding. Why settle for an inferior product (necrophilia-like sex with a woman who will later resemble the star attraction of Sea World) with lousy customer service (bad attitude) when a competitor offshore is willing to provide it with a warm smile and who revels in her femininity? I'm with Paddy, Dogg and the other former slaves who finally got fed up with their games. American women now have to tap dance to MY tune if they even want the time of day.

I think what we're all trying to figure out here is...

Why is it so HARD to find a woman (not a prostitute) that is just interested in sex for the fun of it, without any baggage or whatever?

The importance is to be in the SAME mindset. There's no guarantee that while you take her into that room expecting a good ol' time, she might not have other impressions brewing in her brain. Maybe you want sex, maybe she wants a relationship, maybe you want a BJ, maybe she wants to be told she's pretty, etc., on and on.

A sex worker, while the goings-on are fairly routine, you both know what the other wants. You want sex, she wants to have sex with you for money. There is no confusion.

A woman you pick up in a bar, whether in the USA, Canada, Mexico, Mars, or anywhere else in the Universe, might be thinking 'just sex', or she might be thinking 100 other goals, and even if she tells you directly, it might not be honesty, or she might not even know herself what she wants.

Bottom line...

When a woman inside your own local area decides to have sex with you "for free", it's probably because she likes the sex, or likes you, or both, or another goal you don't see. When a woman outside your area decides to have sex with you "for free", she might like the sex, like you, both, or she might have another hidden goal (marry him so he takes me to the USA, for example).
Both types of women have the same hormones running through their veins, the same thoughts, the same feelings. Some of them handle them better, some of them let their emotions rule them, and some of them try to use their "company" to gain something they want or need. It's all the same.

Traveller, the women of the USA ARE that degenerate. It is mainly because they are brainwashed by our Puritanical society that sex is harmful to them and that they should be compensated for having it. American women are so bombarded with messages of teen pregnancy, STDs, morality, etc. that they are afraid of having sex. Sure this is the "land of the free" but it is free AFTER this society puts MENTAL constraints on you. The men on the other hand are bombarded with images of sex. I notice that the men are more horny than women and have sex without fear of consequences. The American women wouldn't have sex even if there was no threat of unwanted pregnancy or disease. I know of a woman who had her tubes tied that doesn't even want to have protected sex. See, the threat of pregnancy and diseases are taken away and she still doesn't want to get laid. They would think sex is wrong just because of their religious beliefs and the way this puritanical society would view them as "sluts". There is more negative stigma towards women being promiscuous than men being promiscuous. I also notice that 100 times more men join the adult personals than women. I suppose American women fear sex and don't want to have it for it's own gratification because they want to be paid or pampered and they know that adult personals are there for people that just want to have sex.
The only reason Americans are still alive is that American men are willing to pay half their income and give into women's alterior motive for having sex. The woman gets paid by leeching off their husband and the man gets sex. And that is because the woman wears the pants in the family in this society. Being a person that rejects this part of American culture, I pay a small consequence of not getting any American dates and being called a "cheapskate" for not buying the American woman shoes every day of the week. If American men took back the reigns then perhaps American people would be extinct because there would be no suckers for the American women to exploit and take advantage of. The American man would go overseas and find their soulmates there if they knew of choices outside American women.
I agree a lot that our Puritanism is dwindling our population. In comparison with most other countries, we have the lowest birthrates. We have the most single child families on the face of this earth and that is because the American women don't like sex. South Americans, Asians, and even the Western Europeans have bigger families than we have here in America. They have wives that spend more money on their children than they spend on their jewelry and clothing. Yes, the overpopulation does make the country poorer because there are more mouths to feed but in the end, the US will dwindle in numbers with the single child homes because it takes 2 to make 1 child and this population will halve until it is no more. The only thing keeping the US alive are the immigrants that defect from other countries. But if they too adopt this prudelike no sex culture, they will also dwindle with the American population.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dick Johnson
[i]Guys, are American Women really that bad? Do they not want to f#ck after marriage?

A couple of friends say that they get it once in 2 months. I was surprised. I live in Calif. but have dated mostly Asian and Latina girls. And it's sex everyday. I dated a couple of caucasian chicks only briefly and it was sex for a few days and then we break up. I'd be darned if I marry someone and she'd give me sex twice a year. Or if she sticks out her palm and says : no money no honey baby! [/i][/QUOTE]

Dick, I have married friends who tell me they don{t get it at all any more and haven{t gotten it in YEARS. I shit you not. DH

darkseid,

i was a bit worried that someone would confirm all my worst thoughts about american double standards etc. as far as sex is concerned - and of course you did.

in europe, i do not think people conciously recognise the size of the atlantic :-) the mainstream complaints from women's organisations here regarding paid sex is the "poor girls who suffer this degrading occupation" stuff - not the "hey, they are taking away our cash providers".......

euro girls also suffer a bit from the syndrome that separates men from women when it comes to the "reputation" earned by having one-night stands - but it does not keep them from it, neither do they really think that having sex is "bad" in any way.....

and, of course another complaint is about us guys who want 20-year olds (who are more or less 30 years younger than ourselves) - and in that case of course money issues are in - one way or the other (why do you think the young secretaries screw the bosses) - but otherwise? sex is mainly for fun and pleasure....

there are of course exceptions to rules - i guess you can find bunches of "american" women in euroland, and happy fuckers in the us - but it appears this is not the main rule.

but in general it is not surprising. europe has an old world history, where all of the silly stuff has been tried out, ridiculed and laid dead by anything from the pope (lots of his predecessors screwed themselves to insanity with bunches of **** girls in the medeival ages) via the inquisition (if you were not a favoured member of the clergy, you had no business in screwing around, and should thus be tortured and burned alive), to the more loose modern times starting early 1900's.

and not to forget a certain german ruler in the 30's who was fascinated by the idea of "war as an extention of politics with other means" (a clausewitz quote, i think) - and who also adopted the divinity as his protector and alibi for these thoughts ("gott mit uns") - and thus created a world war.

no pun intended (i think) but the people of a great country like the us should be worried about having a chief executive who apparently has adopted the worst of all historical baggage - not only the bias against sex, double standards and all, but even the thought that politics are best handled by war and "in god we trust????" all while his daughters have an "illegal" drink or five and probably screw for pure pleasure only (hey- don't do as we do - do as we tell you - the saying of people in power for about 50,000 years i guess......)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bigg Dogg
[i]I would have to say that American women are that bad, especially when a guy gets spoiled by travelling to other countries and hooking up with the women there. I've learned my lessons after getting divorced and now I am the one in the drivers seat, it's either put out or get out. The way we men can get back control is to be in control. [/i][/QUOTE]

Damn Skippy Bigg Dogg!!....There is ALWAYS an alternitive

I'm glad to see that more and more of you guys are aware of the situation: bad shape and less than average women thinking that they are in control of the slaves (men). The best way to destroy this mentality:
1) let them know (the more the better) the physical characteristic your are looking in women. Since they generally don't fit it they'll get pissed off
2) let them know that beyond 27 years you are not that attracted to them. This will make chicks in their thirties easier and more cooperative
3) let them know that you'd rather go to a SW instead of paying top buck for a so-called regular girl. Based on the concept of fuck cost per unit, explain that you calculate how much it's costs to nail a girl and you compare it to the SW cost.
Regular girl= Fixed costs (shopping, dining,dancing, etc) + variables costs (gas, condoms, time, accomodations, etc)
SW= Variable costs (gas, condoms, time, accomodations, fear,etc.)

Let them know that you try to get the most bang for your buck

Bootylover you are right on target, especially the economic considerations. If we are getting taken care of, we wouldn't be looking for action everywhere we go, especially if they think they have Fort Knox between their legs, oh well. I would agree that our puritanical society significantly effects the sexual education of America.

American women always think they have a choice over the guys that present themselves to them. Even the overweight women think the same way. As a result, they damage the esteem of poor guys who never travelled outside the US. Most of the low self esteem guy get turned down by these overweight women as well. They are not looking for a girl who is slim and 30 years younger but they just want a companion. I agree totally with you guys that they think what's between their legs is gold. I fell into their scam before I went to my first trip to Brazil. I thought women were unobtainable being that I was only 5'4" and overweight (205 lbs) back in college and high school. I was unable to lose my virginity without the service of an overpriced escort my father hired. But Brazil taught me that even a guy with such bad stats as I had back then could get a girl if he has a good heart. The good heart thing doesn't work in America though but it does work in other countries because the women overseas appreciate a man that takes care of them. I also had my first sexual experience with a non-pro in Brazil. Not to mention, the American women are Racist and are taught that way by their parents. The first question that comes to mind is if the boyfriend is of the same race and if the AW says he is different, she always gets a nod of disapproval or even worse, an argument or an exile from home. I was never able to date a girl of another culture here in America. Even the people of other races is taught racism and to stay within their own groups. This bitterness towards the mainstream American society makes the minority group racist as well.
BootyLover, I agree that American men spoil American women too much. Even the overweight women think they have a pick of men. They have men grovelling all over them then they pick the "best" one of the bunch that fit THEIR description of what they want. Us men in America don't have a choice of our women in America because the ones we do want never say 'yes' no matter how much you try to earn their respect. This is true espescially for men that get rejected all the time like my old self. Now that I discovered foreign women, the American women wonder why I am not asking them out. They hate the fact that they can't toy with me like they toy with the other American men so they get frustrated. Some even think that I am gay but I explain to them that I prefer women that I meet overseas. I also ask if they would have went out with me anyway and they responded they wouldn't. I then told them that it is none of their business and they have no right to try to toy with me that way. I also said that I should be free to date foreign women if I can't get a date here in America. They then knew I was right and left me alone. I guess it's better that way because who would date bitches like that anyway.

Darkseid, I can relate to some of your experiences. Growing up, the parental units taught me to treat women with respect and good things will follow. I don't wanna trash their view of the world, but they couldn't have been MORE WRONG! I'd treat prospective women as a social and intellectual equal, but all I got were either the sight of their backs, or the eternal bullshit line: "I just want to be friends", or some other whopper of a lie. Couple THIS with the fact that many of my female friends and acquaintances whom at one time or another I had a thing for, would end up being used like a roll of Charmin by some smooth-talking dude and they'd come running to ME to bend my ear and lean on my shoulder to tell me how men are pigs and that they wish they could find a guy like me! Gimme a BREAK! Back then, I wasn't equipped with hip-waders to deal with the bullshit they'd feed me. Nowadays when I hear such drivel, I smile and pretty much tell them that they made their own sty, now they have to sleep in the shit. They claim to want a sane, quality guy, but end up chasing that which will make them bitter REAL QUICK! They say that women are the more intelligent of the species, but American women have proven this wrong time and again.

Hi Guys,

Many excellent and compelling thoughts have been posted the last few days. American women are truly a trip to oblivion. Therefore, we need to start generating possible solutions and alternative plans for ourselves. Darkseid is already doing this.

Some of us have opted to become sexual adventures flying overseas to meet "real" women. I was in Scotland in early December, for example, and was cavorting around the legendary saunas of Edinburgh. BBBJ, CIM, etc., is standard there. Amazing! I think that we need to start listing cities, countries, etc., where our needs can be met.

Also, what about travel agencies, airlines, websites, etc., to help us in this area??? For example, I have read on the WSG that there is an actual travel agency in Costa Rica that caters to sexual adveturers and sets you up in a resort there. Many of you are also familar with the legendary ******* who organizes things in the Dominican Republic for us.

Guys, American women are not going to change in our lifetimes. This is a reality of life and we need to begin to generate viable solutions for ourselves. American women have made us miserable for long enough!

sinanjumaster, it looks like we were the victims of being the shrinks for these american women. we treat american women with respect and they treat the ones that abuse them better than they treat us. then they come running back to us for a shrink session on how their abusive 6 foot tall boyfriend abuses them. i heard all types of these stories and made so many "friends" that i got tired of it because i wasn't getting any for it. not to mention the dry cleaning bill from letting them cry on my shoulder. i even told them that unless i am getting some myself, the shrink is out. they got offended when i said that. in fact they wouldn't even hook me up with their friends. it's as though they don't want me to get laid and that they want to keep me unlaid so they can tease me with the "hope" of getting laid. they accuse me of being the sexual predator because they thought i was being nice to get into their pants. then they deny me sex when i am being nice to them and they give it up to their abusive boyfriends. or perhaps they think, with their puritanical ideas, that sex makes men pigs and that a guy that doesn't get any would be more sensitive. they can't be more wrong than that! a guy that doesn't get any becomes really bitter to the point they go "postal" (excuse the cliche). i had enough of it and started acting calloused towards them after i started travelling and getting some overseas. i stopped asking american women out altogether and they wonder why.
paddy, i agree with you 100 percent american women are the trip to oblivion. they don't give their husbands a good life and they are money grubbing prudes. foreign women are the real women. they don't play the shrink-patient game with me either and they go for the nice guys instead of abusing the nice ones and going for the abusive ones. i score so much more overseas being nice than i do here in america. american women seem to have their heads on backwards.
i am planning to leave america after getting enough work experience so i can find myself a wife overseas. don't get me wrong, i love america but its women need to get their head on straight and the ones that migrate here need to stay the way they were before coming here instead of letting the friends they make here peer pressure them into becoming another "american woman". i just don't have chemistry with any of the women here in america. if it wasn't for my first girlfriend in brazil and foreign women, i probably would have ended up homosexual like my friend who thinks all women are like american women. but luckily, i discovered the alternative- foreign women.

I have met some overweight American women who are oblivious to the fact that they fat.

..girl, see those white love handles? That's just lard, honey..

Dick Johnson,

Yes, I've noticed the same "phenomenon" of fat American women who genuinely do not view themselves as being fat. These fat chicks also smoke like chimneys. A woman told me once that they think that if they smoke they will not gain or perhaps lose weight. Hmm...

If you want a good laugh, get on match.com. I have seen countless numbers of huge women on that site (you know, the kind that are the size of a Volkswagen) and they classify themselves as having "a few extra pounds." You should see the size of these women. Wow, talk about distortions of reality!

Yeah, Darkseid, we gotta get out of this place. I'm already scoping out possible retirement sites. I guess that my requirements are sensual women and a decent exchange rate. Warm weather and enough English spoken there until I can get passable or fluent in the native language would be my next requirements. Any ideas or recommendations? Thanks.

There's something you should understand time plays aginst women everywhere; it's nature law. For instance, their sexual drive die around mid fifties, as they grow older they become weaker compared to men, etc. They do need a male companionship to live longer than men, otherwise they would have to work as hard. (That's why in India men live longer than women, women are the ones who must work hard)
Stop complaining in the closet (i-e on this website), make sure that your friends men or women know how aware you are and where to look for alternative.
The more you spread the word (way of thinking) the quicker women will lose their monopoly. Don't be shy! Be affirmative!let's reverse the situation to a natural way! SPEAK UP! LOUD!
The more women will hear about the new thinking, the more insecure (and cooperative) they will be. STAND UP! SPEAK UP!