American Women

[QUOTE=Thatguy865]I would have to beg to differ with you Illogic.

I know poor guys who date a lot of fine women, there are women who always like that bad boy and alot of the bad boys are poor but have a great look.

Especially young babes in their 20's. They are just looking for a good time.

Like wise I know some ugly guys with money and game who date fine women.

Did you ever go to Cancun or any other popular beach location when you were in your 20's or 30's. There are plenty of women in their 20's throwing pussy around.

Now I'll agree once you get pass 40 it get harder to get the 20 year olds. But there are plenty of women in their 30's who are still lookin doable. IMHO[/QUOTE]

There is always an exception to the rule TG.

[QUOTE=Illogic]There is always an exception to the rule TG.[/QUOTE]

True TG has a point about 30somethings...

If you don't care about baggage then go for it. I recently found a 41 year old woman on Plenty of Fish that openly lied about her age because she didn't want to be shut out by men that cut off searches at 40 or younger. Just what else is she willing to lie about????

There are women with no children, but have other "issues" which is why they aren't married, I've said before, you can't think you'll find a "Nice Man" on the back end of your 20's, because you'll be in your 30's, single and still looking...

But does really a AW of 30 or 40 even stand a chance with mid 20's Eastern European, Asian or Latina??????

[QUOTE=Thatguy865]There are also plenty of American women like these.[/QUOTE]

Of course, but then you should love/like the 'plastic fantastic'-look and attitude...

Hey TG865 on all these points; I most certainly agree with you.

[QUOTE=Thatguy865]I would have to beg to differ with you Illogic.

I know poor guys who date a lot of fine women, there are women who always like that bad boy and alot of the bad boys are poor but have a great look.

Especially young babes in their 20's. They are just looking for a good time.

Like wise I know some ugly guys with money and game who date fine women.

Did you ever go to Cancun or any other popular beach location when you were in your 20's or 30's. There are plenty of women in their 20's throwing pussy around.

Now I'll agree once you get pass 40 it get harder to get the 20 year olds. But there are plenty of women in their 30's who are still lookin doable. IMHO[/QUOTE]

[quote=gentleman travel]
for me the key thing is that these women are inaccessible to guys like me (average middle-aged man). in eastern europe it is possible to date and fuck women like this, with some game or some money.[/quote]
[quote=illogic]they also inaccessible to the ugly, the fat, socially awkward, broke (financially poor) etc...and if your all of the above well....[/quote]
[quote=dirkdingy]i travel a bit for work, often to places that are high on many mongerers' lists and i can say one thing quite confidently: the largest collection of the most beautiful women that i have ever seen in one place is manhattan.

it's true that one must have his shit together to date these types of women but nothing worth anything is without struggle or a price.[/quote]
so let me get this straight - i am not a real man unless i can bag california beach babes less than half my age? or new york fashionistas?

well, i confess, i cannot do that. and i don't believe it would be worth the effort. what i can do is meet and bag fabulous girls in eastern europe, when i travel there on business. and sometimes, by altering my standards, achieve some success in north american cities. and i have also learned from this board how to best avail myself of whatever opportunities exist in other places i pass through - like fkks in germany.

[quote=dirkdingy]i have a stable of ee and fsu women that range anywhere form 7.5's to 9s but 90% of them are nothing more than trophy babes that i feel absolutely no intellectual connection with. yes, the sex is great, and i love being ogled, admired, and hated my men like yourself when i walk into a room with a 6'0 tall bangin russian blonde but after a month or two they all replacable and interchangable.[/quote]
... and the problem with this is what?????? unless you are looking to get marry one, why do you need a deeper connection? it just makes breaking up more painful for both. i think the occasional fling is just what most guys here are looking for.

but if one did want a ltr, i think ee women have a lot to offer.
maybe not the blonde bimbos you are talking about, but there are a lot of highly educated, cultured and caring ee women who would love to have a guy like me - and maybe even a guy like you.

[quote=dirkdingy]i think instead of posting on this board many of you need to climb the ladder of success and beautiful women will avail themselves to you on any continent..[/quote]
sure money and material success are great aphrodisiacs but we all have to work with what we've got. this board helps me to figure out how to maximize my strengths, paper over my weaknesses and fish in ponds that will work for me. and chasing american beach bunnies is not going to work for me or most guys on this board.

and i think a lot of guys here have realized that a lifetime of chasing material success has not necessarily got them the romantic and sexual satisfaction they desire. so we pursue a separate and more efficient strategy for that. actually, the guys i know from my peer group who are more successful than me may have bigger houses and nicer cars than me, but i don't think any of them are getting more or better pussy, because they don't monger. probably they are too scared to upset the status quo. since mongering i get more pussy at home and away.

[quote=dirkdingy]trust me, get a porsche in anyplace but la or nyc and you will get play.[/quote]
yeah, that could work.
or maybe a better plan would be to stuff hundred dollar bills in all my pockets
and orifices and tattoo "more money than brains" on my forehead.
that would be just as effective and more honest.

for the price of insurance and repairs alone i could sponsor a cute college girl in any north american city ... and save on gas!

[QUOTE=Goga Fung]I thought the discussion was about America, not Manhattan which a completely different country:) I could say the same about some places like Hollywood, or beauty pageants. I went to some beauty pageants, and of course there some hot American girls. But does it make everybody's life easier?

Also those hot chicks are not easily accessible in Manhattan. Simply no. And very expensive to be there for most people. I believe most people in USA live outside of Manhattan..[/QUOTE]

I concur that NYC and LA are not representative of the American heartlands;however, millions of Americans live in or within close proximity of these two metropolitan behemouths. ..The girls there have to date somebody.

Look, I am damn near 30 and have spent the bulk of my post grad career as a consultant for a large multinational consulting firm--about 35% of my time in conflict/post-conflict zones; 35% of my time in the emerging markets of EE, the FSU, and a bit in Latin America;10% of my time on domestic assignments; and the rest on virtual or actual holiday (as I have damn near mastered the art of billing remotely).

Ironically, I was assigned to the healthcare unit for about six months Statside and traveled from hospital to hospital in BFE in the midwest and upper South. Sarah Palin type 50-150k folk towns

I remember my time in Mankato, Minnesota with great nostalgia! Hot nurses, horny interns and residents, and slutty billing girls. When I first rolled into town in my late model leased BMW people defintely had a WTF momment just because I had a fucking BMW that I didn't even own. I got play right off the bat for having a nice ride.

And the women, although there were some fatties, were generally very good looking, honest, and warm. They also liked to fuck and once they got comfortable around me we had many a wild night. I even screwed a resident in a vacated OR.

I did not toss money around aside from springing for weekends in the Twin Cities and nice dinners and was very happy with the ladies there. I made ok money then--and was on per diem--but my salary was between 75-77K a year. Ok in the midwest for a young single guy but not ballin outta control by any standards.

Theese were normal, small town American women with good values who had expecations that were quite reasonable. They were neither fat, gold diggers, nor idiotic.

I had a better time in Mankato than I did in Moldova! And the women in Mankato were quite comparable to the chicks of Chisinau.


Why can't you all experience the same?

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Dirk you talk from a FSU point of view. Of course nice car and spending loads of cash(like you do) will get you hot babes in FSU.

In USA you might get some but most likely it will be different result for most people.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goga Fung]I recently sold my Lexus SUV in USA since I'm trying to spend less time here and eventually to get out long term.

In USA it did not give me shit, except more expenses, headacke, and gold digging EE girls trying to get married and all the shit that would follow.

Instead for that money(I just calculated) I can have 100 days of three-four somes with young beautiful Colombianas or Brazilean garotas.

I was talking about full days of fun and sex(high quality, not bullshit) with 2-3 girls.

Can you say you can get this kinda things in USA? I'm talking about the majority, not 0.001% of lucky/rich/famous[/QUOTE]

You are right that beautiful women have higher expectations in richer countries than they do in poor countries.

But do you really want to live your life for sex vacations...it may not be fulfilling, we are human beings, not just sex machines.

In the USA, as you admitted, you can earn enough to get gold digging EE babes with a lux SUV. If one leaves the US for good I doubt they would be able to attract gold diggers because they would have no gold...remember foreign women assume that the bullshit you tell them abroad is true.

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]I couldn't see how anybody could say girls in NYC OR LA are better looking than the ones here in Bogota. Maybe that's me but I just can't see it.[/QUOTE]


Bro, the smart ones with brains and ambition ARE IN NYC AND LA:) They got the fuck out of Argentina and Bogota years ago.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that you have to drive a *foreign* car in order to get *American* women? Reminds me of a joke a buddy once told me: "How do you achieve the American dream? Get a Swiss Bank account, drive an Italian sports car, and marry a Brazilian supermodel"![/QUOTE]


the higher you are on the food chain the more desirable women avail themselves to you...I guess an Escalade would work as well as a Porsche in Ohio.

Flustered, he says that marriage to countess 30 years younger ‘was dead’

By Mike Celizic
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 2 hours, 47 minutes ago

He was 60, urbane and exquisitely upholstered in tailored suits and starched shirts. She was 30 and Swedish, as in drop-dead blond gorgeous. He was the fabulously wealthy former CEO of a high-powered manufacturing firm. She was a countess.

It was a match made in rich people’s heaven. But the divorce is straight from the ninth circle of relationship hell.

George David is 67 now, an older if no wiser man. Marie Douglas-David is 37, still in the prime of life and perhaps financially savvier. There is no question that both want to go their separate ways — she to a life of luxury, he to the arms of his current girlfriend. The question being debated in the democratic venue of a Hartford, Conn., family court for all the world to hear with voyeuristic delight is who gets how much.

$99 million, please
The couple had agreed to separate in 2007, their marriage irreparably broken. He said that she was bossy and imperious (imagine that from a countess) and even tried to force sex upon him. She said that he, the longtime CEO of United Technologies, was often off canoodling with one Wendy Touton, whom he admits lavishing with gifts — including a $13,000 fur and a $10,000 pair of Manolo Blahnik shoes.

In 2005, three years after their wedding, Marie Douglas-David signed a postnuptial agreement giving her $43 million in stock, hedge fund shares, jewelry, and properties in Sweden worth $4 million. But she says that because the couple reconciled for six months after they broke up, the agreement is void. And besides, she says, the postnup shouldn’t apply anyway because she was deceived into signing it.

David is worth a reported $300 million, and, as Peter Alexander of NBC News reported Wednesday for TODAY, Douglas-David wants $99 million of that. Nothing else, she maintains, can support her in the style to which living as David’s wife has accustomed her.

Douglas-David’s needs are not simple. She ticked off her expenses for the court: $53,000 a week just to pay the bills, which include $8,000 for travel, $4,000-plus for clothing, $1,500 for restaurants, $1,000 to keep her hair perfect and her skin glowing, $600 for flowers to make the Park Avenue penthouse worth walking into.

David’s unwillingness to pay is evidenced by his willingness to take the stand in Hartford in front of the unwashed world and talk about what some would consider the embarrassing details of his life.

R.I.P. wedded bliss
Still, he did that for the fifth time Tuesday, testifying that his marriage was “dead” long before he became heavily involved with another woman. “We had no relationship. This marriage was dead,” David testified.

David, who until last year was the chief executive of UTC, has appeared flustered during his past two days on the stand. Reluctantly, he has acknowledged spending thousands on gifts for a mistress, Wendy Touton of Manhattan, during a 2007 trip to London.

The gifts included the Manolo Blahniks and clothing from La Perla, an upscale lingerie and swimwear store. Also, he testified, a 2007 Christmas Day shopping trip included the purchase of the fur coat and $1,500 worth of La Mer beauty products.

Douglas-David’s legal team pointed out travel records that show David jet-setted with Touton to locations that include Argentina, Paris, Frankfurt, Sardinia and St. Tropez, France. They contend that Douglas-David was kept in the dark and tried to reconcile with her husband.

“He was dishonest with her on multiple levels,” her lead attorney, William Beslow, said.

Douglas-David sent an e-mail Nov. 11, 2007, addressed to “my pumpkin and signed “jag alskar dig,” which means “I love you” in Swedish.

“I know you think the odds are low but I wish you would give us another chance of being happy with the very strong love and bond I still hope that we have between us. We can be an amazing couple,” she wrote, a copy of the e-mail filed with the court shows.

David’s lead attorney, former appellate court judge Anne C. Dranginis, argued that the gift-giving and travel were irrelevant because they took place after the divorce proceedings started.

The Associated Press contributed reporting to this story.

Best AW fuck I ever had was (is) a nurse from Minnesota. Always date nurses. I never met a nurse that did not like to suck cock. However no matter how smart a gal from Argentina might be, she will no longer be able to flee to the US nowadays unless she knows somebody or blows somebody.

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]Bro, the smart ones with brains and ambition ARE IN NYC AND LA They got the fuck out of Argentina and Bogota years ago.[/QUOTE]This is not a problem. Let NYC guys continue struggling to get those smart ones with brains and ambition. There are many guys trying for years figure out how to meet those smart ambitious chicks.

There are always new ones getting born and growing up. And not all of the beauties have enough brains and ambitions to go to NYC.

Also I believe women's "brains and ambitions" do not correlate well to the quality of time you have with them. Some guys say something about "intelligent" conversation with a woman. Fuck this shit, I have enough male friends for that.

[QUOTE=Goga Fung]This is not a problem. Let NYC guys continue struggling to get those smart ones with brains and ambition. There are many guys trying for years figure out how to meet those smart ambitious chicks.

There are always new ones getting born and growing up. And not all of the beauties have enough brains and ambitions to go to NYC.

Also I believe women's "brains and ambitions" do not correlate well to the quality of time you have with them. Some guys say something about "intelligent" conversation with a woman. Fuck this shit, I have enough male friends for that.[/QUOTE]


Your point of view is valid, it depends on what you want. I want a wife/partner for life and a family so it's important to me that I breed with someone with brains who is pretty.

I would personally have a hard time dating an uber-ambitious woman. For me, an ideal lady would be someone who is well educated and comes from money but does not want a career in corporate America.

He could have had this kunt whacked for way less than $99 million. The going rate for having someone whacked here is $500 US. But what's this got to do with American Women? This woman is not American.

Plus if my math is correct $300 million - $99 million = $201 million so are we supposed to feel sorry for this fuck? Now this [b]schmuck[/b] is American, if you know from schmuck.

[url]http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=utx&sid=0&o_symb=utx&freq=2&time=12[/url]

A five year chart of UTX's performance. Not too impressive. $45 to $50 in ten years is pretty weak. I say give her 99 cents, deport her back to Sweden (throw her in the ocean and see if she can swim back, would be fine with me), and then have him whacked and distribute his assets to the UTX shareholders.

That's just my opinion.

All the English speaking countries of the world are just as bad as America. American women are horrible, but Australian, Canadian, British, and Kiwi women are just as terrible as their American counterparts. I think Continental European women are much better, especially Eastern Europeans, they can be amazing.