American Women

HK Man,

The only way I can accurately answer your question is in two parts.

1. "Can one attract american women with money (and bad
looks)?"

Dude, if you have to ask that question then you have NO IDEA of how materialistic and selfish American women can be. You could look like the Elephant Man, but if you are a millionaire you'll still get laid. I'm not kidding.

2. "Do they generally do anal and bbbjtcws? or are they bitchy
and arrogant in bed as well?"

Few of these women will go the extra mile in bed unless they're hookers. For example, they'll insist on you giving them head, but if you have the audacity to ask for reciprocal treatment they'll get bent out of shape. I'm not kidding about that, either. It's almost as if they're doing you a favor by just being there.

I don't know why you asked, but take it from someone on the front lines (Southeastern U.S.); a lot of these women aren't worth your time, mate. Things are a little better in major metropolitan areas (NYC, Los Angeles, et al), but not by a whole lot.

Smut Villian,

I know USA women are bitchy and very materialistic, especially when compared with Latin America, Australia, Thailand, etc.

I've been all over the USA however, and the SE USA is by far the best place in be in the USA at least in regards to chasing skirts. Cities like Atlanta, New Orleans, Birmingham, are a million times easier hooking up with a goodlooking nonpro, then say Boston, Seattle, Chicago, Phoenix.

The good thing about the SE USA, is the sex ratio is in your favor, and you do run into some good simple country girls, moving to the big city.

I'm living, working, in Portland, OR right now--have not got laid in a month. I would die to go back to Atlanta right now. Consider yourself lucky in be living in the SE USA.

Of course the SE USA is miserable for hooking up with nonpros when you compare it to Argentina. Everything is relative.

Marriage is a religious rite. Why is it also a legal institution? Isn't there supposed to be a constitutional separation of Church and State in the USA?

The fact is, if you wind up in a situation where you're living with a woman for an extended period of time, regardless of your marital status and you split up, then the woman winds up with pretty much everything - palimony, alimony - not much difference in my book, you're still paying for something you're no longer getting.

Marriage merely makes some things more convenient (during the time that you're married) - insurance and other benefits you may get from your employer, Legal issues where children are involved, inheritance, etc.

Over the last few months, there was a lot of news about legislation for "civil unions". During this time, I saw a report on what they're doing in France. I don't remember what they called it (pact or pax or something like that) - a legal partnership between the two individuals that sounded like a combination of a marriage and a business partnership. All the legal rights of a married couple (but no churches involved), but set up like a business so if the couple splits, it can be done in less than a week and then they're finished. Apparently more people are going this route than the marriage route in France.

CW

[quote][i]Originally posted by Smut Villain[/i]
You could look like the Elephant Man, but if you are a millionaire you'll still get laid.
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You're not kidding, but you're not being complete either. That sentence should read:

You could look like the Elephant Man, but if you are a millionaire you'll still get laid [i]by the most beautiful American women[/i].

New Bound,

I guess you do have a point about the major cities in the southeast U.S., but I've had tremendous success in San Diego, Los Angeles, and San Antonio.

Besides, I live in a mid-sized town (population about 125,000+). Most of the good stuff either got married or moved out of town, and what women are left have turned out to be borderline arrogant and materialistic (being damn near the only game in town) :(

Maybe I'm whining because Mexico and the West Coast (U.S.) have spoiled me rotten, but I've seen evidence that it doesn't HAVE to be this way.

CBGB,

When I said I was working toward being an expatriate I thought I had knew which country I wanted. You're not making this any easier with reports like that :).

Maybe we should establish a "Wannabe Expat Support" thread in which current expats could provide us wannabe's with tips on how to find work in various countries other than the United States of Dictator Bush

P & G, Smut V,

[quote]You could look like the Elephant Man, but if you are a millionaire you'll still get laid by the most beautiful American women.[/quote]

Every heard the old saw, "A handsome, poor man is a handsome man, but an ugly, rich man is a rich man."

Riding up front on international flights you can get a look at what the "other half" pokes, usually [i]very[/i] impressive.

It is not just American women with this particular weakness, money and power attract. The fact is that you can really impress a third worlder with a 80k salary, try it in NY sometime.

Cheers,

Sporadic

Quote by Cash Works:

"... All the legal rights of a married couple (but no churches involved), but set up like a business so if the couple splits, it can be done in less than a week and then they're finished. Apparently more people are going this route than the marriage route in France."

I wonder how many women would bother getting married in the USA if we went that route? Imagine all the gold-diggers knowing they wouldn't be able to cash in?

Anna Nicole Smith probably wouldn't have married that rich old fart (LOL).

BTW, I kinda like PurpleNGolds' idea of a wannabe expat forum. Who knows, it could start a trend?

You can really impress women in Latin America without even telling them your salary, and it damn sure doesn't have to be 80k. Just being able to take a cab and not a bus and eat in a sit-down restaurant will make you "rich." Trust me.

One thing guys, just because its easier to get laid places like Australia, it doesn't neccesarily mean these places are utopia. As long as you can deal with other difficulties, and you think your sex life is of paramount importance, then moving to some more sexually liberated country makes more sense.

Dickhead,

I appreciate what you are saying, it all depends on the economic context.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King.

It is not just other countries, but other neighborhoods; to a trailer queen 35k is well-to-do.

Cheers,

Sporadic

CBGB,

I agree with you 100%, but my decision to become an expatriate isn't really fueled by my libido (okay, maybe a little :) ). You see, one day I'd like to settle down with a nice little "chica" (or a "Shiela", as the case may be), but when it comes to dating, men in the U.S. are playing a game that's basically been rigged. It's a little less daunting to find Mrs. Right when you're not being made to jump through hoops or kiss ass with droll "goddess worship"; on the average, dating/marriage in the U.S. is pretty much a high-risk/low yield investment.

As far as my sex life is concerned: I imagine one day I'll probably be too old to chase skirts (I can't believe I said that!), but I'd like to still have a life partner who won't suck the life out of me (except in bed ;) ).

Until then, I guess I'm guilty of wanting to take the path of least resistance.

Smut,

I have to disagree slightly. I'm pretty sure that Anna Nicole Smith was counting on the old fart keeling over so she could inherit all his money - that way, she gets it all instead of just a portion of it. I don't think she counted on his kids contesting the will though.

Also, I have to say that the women don't always get everything in a divorce. I have a non-mongering friend who's wife apparently got fed up with him and the town they lived in. She filed for divorce stating that he had been fooling around on the side. She was unable to prove it, probably because he wasn't doing anything, and she wound up getting nothing in the divorce settlement. He kept both of their houses, the bank accounts and investments. She took custody of one of their kids (the other was college age), so he pays child support, not because the courts tell him to, but because it's his kid and he wants his kid to take care of him.

This may only be true in North Carolina, but I remember 20 odd years ago, when I was in college, I had a neighbor who lost just about everything in a divorce settlement (he was middle aged and living in a roach infested apartment complex that was mostly populated by students). Anyway, he was broke all the time because of Alimony payments, then one day he asked me to help him move some stuff out of his ex-wifes house - seems there was a legislation change that allowed him to no longer pay alimony - they had no kids so he wasn't paying her anything at that point, she didn't have a job and couldn't afford the mortgage on their old house so she sold him some of the furniture (family heirloom stuff that he inherited, but she wound up with after the divorce) and was selling the house. I've mentioned this to some other people around here, but don't know what the deal is - some say you still have to pay alimony in NC, others say you don't. I suppose it may be a case by case basis.

CW

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Quote by Cash Works:

"... I'm pretty sure that Anna Nicole Smith was counting on the old fart keeling over so she could inherit all his money ..."

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Okay, I stand corrected. But I'm sure you saw where I was going with my logic. Besides, this particular example just illustrates how Western women can sometimes be. I know it's natural for a female to gravitate toward a mate who proves himself to be a good provider (it's a biological impulse, after all, so you can't really fault them for it), but IMHO this is not the same as being a golddigger: a golddigger (to me) isn't necessarily looking for a "provider" - she's just looking to hit the "jackpot" by scheming on someone else's fortune. After she's attained her goal she has no use for the dude and divorces/kills/wait for the guy to pass away.