American Women

I've had a few black girlfriends. I'm ghost white by the way.

I'd say when it comes to romance and finance, black women may be a little more direct. They'll just come out and ask you for cash. There's a certain admirable quality to that.

And they might be more willing to settle for short-term gains in that regard.

Meanwhile, a white girl will judge you and do a deeper analysis, probably Excel spreadsheets, before she decides to pony up some tail.

I used to think black women were all better in the sack. Some yes, but some no. They do have better asses.

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Meanwhile, a white girl will judge you and do a deeper analysis, probably Excel spreadsheets, before she decides to pony up some tail. [/QUOTE]

Not necessarily, I've met some White girls who have pony'd up some tail in no time flat, IF they like you. It's been my experience that it's often easier to bed White gals than Black American chicks. White women have no time for BS. Black gals will give you the run round at first, but if they see $$$$$ signs they jump in head first pretty quick.

So what difference does it make if an American woman is black, white, yellow, or brown. Its whats between their ears that matters not what they appear on the outside.

[QUOTE=Australiasucks]So what difference does it make if an American woman is black, white, yellow, or brown. Its whats between their ears that matters not what they appear on the outside.[/QUOTE]That's right, it is not about the color. A few days ago in Uzbekiston I saw a TV program about "money". They said that money themselves do not make people bad. Money only help some people release their bad traits, which they would normally hide. So the same is for women. No matter what color, if they have bad traits, places such as USA might help them come out. And you cannot deal with it. You can only change the place or you need to change the whole country, it's politics, laws, economics, traditions, etc.

[QUOTE=Australiasucks]So what difference does it make if an American woman is black, white, yellow, or brown. Its whats between their ears that matters not what they appear on the outside.[/QUOTE]

Oh really, cultural differences and different life experiences mean nothing 'eh.

Cultural differences do matter but when you get down to it, women who live in Western societies, regardless of their ethnic origins tend to be influenced by one kind of culture. Oprah seems to reach out to women of all backgrounds in America, she seems to have a strong feminist agenda.

Tell me, if your father was shacking up with a third-world girl substantially younger than him, and she was pushing him for marriage and digging into him financially, and then he died unexpectedly, should you feel obligated to give her something even if the old man didn't spell it out in a will?

I kind of think if this broad had succeeded in pushing him into marriage, then she might not be so generous with the tables shifted.

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Interesting article in the Economist about the gender imbalance in the US caused by the high rate of incarceration of black males.


Couple this with the fact (discussed here a few months ago) that many more women are going to college than men - a trend which I think is even more disproportionate amongst blacks (I saw a quote somewhere about black families putting priority on their daughters education becuase, "black girls go to college, and the boys go to jail") - and you get a quite a large pool of black women chasing a declining number of "eligible" black men. Could make for happy hunting for our American brothers!

Overall this situation starts to look like the situation in Russia - with a major sex imbalance. The article also argues that this has or will cause attitude changes - the girls "uping their game" to better attract a mate. I guess it is too much to hope that these more sexual traits will spill over into white women's culture? But unfortunately, black American girls suffer from some different environmental factors - like a fast food diet and lack of exercise - that make FSU girls worth pursuing.[/QUOTE]
Don’t believe everything you read. There are a lot of handsome young college educated black men out there without a criminal record who have difficulty finding a suitable American woman for a mate. I know several of them. One recently found himself a Costa Rican virgin for a wife after spending years chasing black college girls who were more interested in trying to fuck rappers on spring break or finding a sugar-daddy. Like the article says, real life is complicated. A college education isn’t the only trait that men look for in a wife so having one doesn’t necessarily make a black woman any more desirable. A degree usually means little more than an extremely high likelihood that the woman is bringing a huge shitload of credit card and student loan debt into the marriage.

The black women out there wringing their hands about not being able to find a suitable husband, more often than not, are not the kind of women that you would like to marry. These women refuse to look at themselves and blame their situation on everything from mass incarceration to homosexuality among black males. Black men in college will tell you that they appear invisible to black women until they start dating a white, Asian or Hispanic girl. Then they get plenty of evil stares and hateful comments. The truth is that black American women set their goals for a sucker unrealistically high. They want handsome, rich, young, powerful, intelligent, sexually prow and domesticated in one neat convenient package like an iPhone with all its apps. Ironically, even when black men meet all of their criteria they tend to avoid these high expectation women.

[QUOTE=Vaquero]Tell me, if your father was shacking up with a third-world girl substantially younger than him, and she was pushing him for marriage and digging into him financially, and then he died unexpectedly, should you feel obligated to give her something even if the old man didn't spell it out in a will?

I kind of think if this broad had succeeded in pushing him into marriage, then she might not be so generous with the tables shifted.[/QUOTE]
The simple answer is no. You should not feel obligated to give her jack shit! If your old man wanted her to have something he would have at least mentioned it. He didn’t mention it and certainly did not put pen to paper. That makes it abundantly clear that he was just enjoying some young gold digger pussy with no intentions of ever handing over his assets. She had her fun leeching the old codger while he was alive. Let her move on and find another target but please don’t reward her behavior.

I'm a white dude, but my brother was college dorm roommates with a black dude who has everything going for him. He's an engineer with a good job, religious, doesn't smoke or drink and had a former Navy dad. Well read and into martial arts.

Anyway, he had a hang up in that he would only date black women, something about community unity. But he had trouble finding a good one, as we all do, regardless of color.

So then he had a serious deal with a black chick who spent a lot of time with his mother and all that. But this girl had a secret box that she was careful that he never get into, and that made him naturally inquisitive.

Some problems started to emerge in the relationship, so he picked the lock on the box.

The shit was crazy. Basically, he discovered she was still corresponding with an ex-boyfriend who was imprisoned, and she told this inmate that she was only dating our chump friend until he got released.

That pissed my buddy off well enough. But then he also discovered that the girl had been "borrowing" money from his mother during her terminal illness.

A couple years ago, my dad did make mention of leaving her some cash. This was when she was pushing him into marriage.

But I guess the way I look at it is if he wholly supported her and her kid for six years, that's a good inheritance for her. This could make me a bastard, I know.

So true! I've dated a few Black AW in my day, completely crazy bitches IMHO. Here's one example.[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Mf_7QXaEU[/url]

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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Don’t believe everything you read. There are a lot of handsome young college educated black men out there without a criminal record who have difficulty finding a suitable American woman for a mate. I know several of them. One recently found himself a Costa Rican virgin for a wife after spending years chasing black college girls who were more interested in trying to fuck rappers on spring break or finding a sugar-daddy. Like the article says, real life is complicated. A college education isn’t the only trait that men look for in a wife so having one doesn’t necessarily make a black woman any more desirable. A degree usually means little more than an extremely high likelihood that the woman is bringing a huge shitload of credit card and student loan debt into the marriage.

The black women out there wringing their hands about not being able to find a suitable husband, more often than not, are not the kind of women that you would like to marry. These women refuse to look at themselves and blame their situation on everything from mass incarceration to homosexuality among black males. Black men in college will tell you that they appear invisible to black women until they start dating a white, Asian or Hispanic girl. Then they get plenty of evil stares and hateful comments. The truth is that black American women set their goals for a sucker unrealistically high. They want handsome, rich, young, powerful, intelligent, sexually prow and domesticated in one neat convenient package like an iPhone with all its apps. Ironically, even when black men meet all of their criteria they tend to avoid these high expectation women.[/QUOTE]

brilliant post! right on with the knowledge.!!! thanks :)

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Don’t believe everything you read. There are a lot of handsome young college educated black men out there without a criminal record who have difficulty finding a suitable American woman for a mate. I know several of them. One recently found himself a Costa Rican virgin for a wife after spending years chasing black college girls who were more interested in trying to fuck rappers on spring break or finding a sugar-daddy. Like the article says, real life is complicated. A college education isn’t the only trait that men look for in a wife so having one doesn’t necessarily make a black woman any more desirable. A degree usually means little more than an extremely high likelihood that the woman is bringing a huge shitload of credit card and student loan debt into the marriage.

The black women out there wringing their hands about not being able to find a suitable husband, more often than not, are not the kind of women that you would like to marry. These women refuse to look at themselves and blame their situation on everything from mass incarceration to homosexuality among black males. Black men in college will tell you that they appear invisible to black women until they start dating a white, Asian or Hispanic girl. Then they get plenty of evil stares and hateful comments. The truth is that black American women set their goals for a sucker unrealistically high. They want handsome, rich, young, powerful, intelligent, sexually prow and domesticated in one neat convenient package like an iPhone with all its apps. Ironically, even when black men meet all of their criteria they tend to avoid these high expectation women.[/QUOTE]

What follows is NOT a reflection of conditions in my own current marriage; but a compilation of data from my own first marriage plus the experiences of several men who cheated on their wives who have spoken with me at great length about their motivations over the years.

I do not believe all appreciation for the providers is a function of age and the man's inferior sex appeal per-se. Rather, it is a function of experience.

Most married men, I believe, if they had a better home life, would not cheat. Obviously, some would no matter what. But most wouldn't. Most men find self-value in adhering to promises, meeting responsibilities, etc.

But there is an absolute epidemic out there of wives failing to provide for the most basic of a husband's needs: appreciation, acceptance, approval and physically demonstrable affection. Men are nagged endlessly, treated as accessories and disposable gateways to a lifestyle, disrespected and talked down to, (even in public) etc.

Their wives try to force husbands to be more feminine; turn them into girlfriends and shrinks, and then stop finding them attractive when they comply. The list is endless. (Not all marriages are like this. I'm talking about those of a large proportion of men who end up cheating.)

It is not at all unusual for wives to treat their pets or total strangers with higher regard than the husbands who provide for them. These men are exposed to endless emotional and psychological ABUSE day-in and day-out. They take it out of misplaced loyalty, for the sake of kids (who really shouldn't grow up learning that men should be treated that way), because their wives have destroyed their self-esteem, a biased legal system, etc.

Your average woman wouldn't take even a tenth of the abuse that men do these days.

When their self-centered, self-important and scandalously selfish wives concede to sex; it is often taken care of with about as much ardor as taking a shit.

The double standards in the home are breathtaking; and the manipulation is endless. If he doesn't let her go spend a day at the spa with the girls, he is being "controlling;" but if he wants to go spend Saturday down at the golf course, "he doesn't love her."

These men are absolutely STARVED for acceptance, basic respectful treatment, physically demonstrated affection and to just plain be treated fairly like normally-valued HUMAN BEINGS. They want an outlet where they can express their primal manhood without being treated as though they are an icky pariah barely deserving of drawing breath.

A provider, albeit for a fee, treats her client with normal human respect and dignity; accepts him as he is, gives him tacit approval to be a man in an environment free from "gotchas" and makes love to him enthusiastically. Like she means it. (Even if she doesn't. The man will suspend disbelief. Though -- maybe I am a bit naive -- I really DO think some providers really mean it. How they manage it, I don't know.)

Of COURSE he is appreciative. He is as appreciative as a starving man placed in front of a plate of spaghetti.

But it isn't just the sex that makes them appreciative. It is the ATTITUDE. Giving a man a great buildup and one hellatious orgasm does not take more than an hour. The reason men book providers for more than an hour is because they need more than the orgasm from her.

And, yes, men ARE easily controlled. Men WANT to please the women in their lives. If they are given acceptance, approval and appreciation coupled with physically demonstrable affection -- they will conquer continents for the woman who does it. And more often than not, they'll remain faithful too.

And when the woman giving the acceptance and physical affection happens to be a provider; depending on just how starved the guy is; she DOES gain a certain level of power. Power that the man's wife surrendered through abusing it. BUT, if she is ethical, that power is not abused; because she already knows what the wife did wrong.

(One reason I think some providers could make really fantastic wives. They get it. They see the results of all the other women's mistakes.)

So I think an older guy's appreciation for a provider is NOT always a function of the man being unable to get laid by a hottie. MANY hobbyists could do so readily; and seek providers for discretion and to avoid complications in meeting basic human needs.

In fact, I would say a lot of men are a lot more attractive than they think they are. It's just that their sexual self-esteem is in the TANK.

(That's an interesting way to assure fidelity. Make sure your husband feels so damned unattractive that anytime a pretty girl makes a pass at him he believes she's picking on him and couldn't possibly be sincere. Sometimes this technique backfires though.)

So I believe that a major reason why guys with experience appreciate providers so much is because of the way providers TREAT them.

Capt Ajax hit the nail on the head with this post. Another way to say it is that "he hit the nail - squarely on her faultlessly manicured thumb."

[QUOTE=Capt Ajax]There is an absolute epidemic out there of wives failing to provide for the most basic of a husband's needs: appreciation, acceptance, approval and physically demonstrable affection. Men are nagged endlessly, treated as accessories and disposable gateways to a lifestyle, disrespected and talked down to, (even in public) etc. Your average woman wouldn't take even a tenth of the abuse that men do these days. [/quote]It doesn't take getting married to see this, and to realize that Western society is rife with it and too many Western women are full of it. The all-too-common attitude seems to be that "a ring on my finger means a ring in HIS nose," and Western society sees nothing wrong with that attitude.

You can find that sort of attitude in women from anywhere in the world, but it seems more manageable in South America - at least from my limited observations. There are other regions, too (Southeast Asia comes to mind) where "a good man is valued like a precious jewel," or at least where the women grow up seeing that shit begets more shit and that the woman who dishes it out and gets slapped down for it has only herself to blame in the eyes of the community.

[quote]Men WANT to please the women in their lives. If they are given acceptance, approval and appreciation coupled with physically demonstrable affection -- they will conquer continents for the woman who does it. And more often than not, they'll remain faithful too.[/QUOTE]ABSOLUTELY!!! A woman who loved me, and who treated me with love and passion, would absolutely have my heart. How long, though, would that treatment last? That's what I find scary, and that's what keeps me keeping up my guard.

So you pay a few dollars and spend an hour with a provider who gives you that "loving feeling" for an hour or so. Or if you're lucky, you pack up and move to some country where the women value their men and behave lovingly toward them.

The ground rules of marriage - of human relations - should be:

If you treat me like a king, I'll treat you like my Queen.
If you treat me like your sugar-daddy, I'll treat you like my sugar-baby.
If you treat me like a dog, don't be surprised if I treat you like a fire-hydrant.

Speaking for the American man: Woof!