American Women

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1303893]I saw a beautiful woman from either Eastern or Central Europe outside the supermarket last night on Long Island, New York. She did not have an ounce of fat on her and she had ebullient blond hair. She was with her boyfriend, Eastern or Central European, of who was smoking and possessive of a pendulous gut. There is no way an American woman as hot as her would go out with him.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you want Lugalzaggizi, but if you only get 10 days off and you want an EE wife that's plenty of time to find one actually.

Just in the last two years -

Friend (Black) married to a Russian Woman, no MOB agency involved, not even EE web sites like Elena's...

Friend (Black) married to Ukrainian Woman, Well Known MOB agency involved, she is slightly taller than him, they just had a child.

Friend (White) started K1 process for PH Woman after being divorced from ex he found at drug rehab (had two sons, he has full custody)

Deadbeat dad flees to Philippines to avoid court-ordered spousal support & FRO.

Toronto Star.

His 10-year-old son was fighting cancer.

His 14-year-old daughter is a special-needs child coping with all the challenges of Down syndrome.

His 17-year-old daughter, once an A student, is struggling at school and depressed.

His 19-year-old son has substance abuse problems and is currently on a methadone program.

Last fall, after an Ontario judge awarded his ex-wife spousal and child support of nearly $4, 000 a month, Hans Mills, an education software expert with extensive work contacts in Southeast Asia, sent Donna Mills an email telling her he had left Canada for good.

'The result of the legal instrument which you recently designed and implemented is that there is no possibility of a comfortable life or a (secure) retirement for me in Canada at all, ' Mills. 53, wrote in the email dated November 2, 2011. 'Therefore I have left the country to seek greener pastures elsewhere, and will never return. Well done Einstein. '

'Good luck and goodbye. '

With that missive sent from an unknown location, Mills joined the more than 120, 000 parents in Ontario who are in arrears on spousal and child support payments. Collectively, they owe more than $1. 8 billion to ex-wives and children.

This is a story about a marriage breakup, a protracted legal battle and the decision of the ex-husband to flee Canada and avoid his court-ordered duty.

The Star tracked Hans Mills to the Philippines. From his hideaway on the outskirts of Manila, Mills says he knows what he did is wrong. He blames a 'broken' Family Court system that pushed him to the brink of ruin for his decision to cut and run.

'I did a terrible, awful thing, because I had no reasonable option, ' Mills says of his decision to flee and stop making spousal and child support payments. 'I miss my children terribly. I abandoned Canada, but not my children. My hope is that some day I can reconcile with my children, but not in Canada. A morally bankrupt state.

'The Philippines is about as far as I could go. If I had a spaceship I'the be much further away. '

At the time he absconded, Hans Mills was under court order to pay his ex-wife, Donna Mills, $2, 235 per month for the support of their children and $1, 537 a month for spousal support. He also had been hit with substantial retroactive payments and ordered to pay his ex-wife's legal costs.

His kids are 'innocent bystanders who got caught in the crossfire, ' Mills says in his email to the Star. 'It was not my intention to hurt them. '

He is adamant about two things — he will 'never, ever, ever, ever' pay spousal support, and he will never return to Canada.

That is bitter news for Donna Mills, who has spent the past eight months urging Canadian authorities and Ontario's Family Responsibility Office (FRO) to find her ex-husband and force him to comply with the court order.

The day after she received the email, Donna Mills' lawyer sent the Family Responsibility Office, which enforces court orders for support, a fax urging his arrest, but Mills was already out of the country.

'Financially, emotionally, physically, and spiritually, I am approaching bankruptcy, ' Donna Mills said in an email she sent the Star asking for help in locating her ex. 'If I go down, the kids go down, and I can't let that happen. '

The story is complicated by the house Donna Mills and the children live in. The imposing home, on a large lot backing on Lake Ontario near Hamilton, is valued at about $1. 2 million, but has a $600, 000 mortgage on it.

The couple split in 2005. A deal was finally brokered after a two-day trial and on May 1, 2008, both parties signed the Minutes of Settlement. Donna would have sole custody and stay in the house with the children while Hans paid child support. Donna would pay Hans $175, 000 to buy him out of the matrimonial home.

In subsequent court pleadings, Donna maintains she was 'rushed and pressured and did not read' the documents before she signed them. She said she did not understand she was signing away the right to any future spousal support, even if her circumstances changed.

'Donna got the million dollar lakefront mansion and full custody of the children with child support, but no spousal support, in exchange for the house, ' Hans Mills writes. 'Everyone at the time agreed that my spousal support obligation had been met fully. '

He notes the deal also provided Donna with a built-in revenue stream because the house contained a separate apartment that was rented for nearly $2, 000 a month.

Over the next few years, a feud simmered between the once-happy couple. Three years after their 'Final Order, ' all kinds of issues had arisen about the kids and Donna's inability to work, and a new trial was scheduled for the fall of 2011.

According to Donna Mills, her ex-husband took her to court three times and at one point tried to foreclose on the house. With her bills piling up, Donna Mills says she used this as an opportunity to ask a court to grant her spousal support.

In June 2011, a judge issued a 'Temporary Order' for Hans to pay spousal support, also awarding her both retro payments and court costs. Stung by the order, Hans left Canada before the new trial could take place.

'I was effectively ordered to pay for my crucifixion. Ouch. Plus I still had to pay my own lawyer, ' he writes. 'Having been buggered once left me no appetite for a second serving, thank you very much. '

So he sold his house, cashed in his pension, paid his bills, and took off.

He left behind an ex-wife who says she is unable to work due to onerous family responsibilities — looking after four kids, three of whom have substantial medical needs, especially Steven, who has just finished two years of cancer treatment.

'I am not receiving any financial support from my former spouse, ' Donna Mills says. 'I don't have life insurance or benefits. The house is the only thing that I have left. My RSPs are quickly dwindling and failure to sell the house in a timely fashion will lead to foreclosure. '

In addition, Donna Mills says she had to borrow another $122, 000 through a line of credit on her mother's house to buy out Hans. 'I came away from this with no money. '

Hans Mills now lives in Dasmarinas City, about 50 kilometres south of Manila, with his new wife, Rosemarie Espiritu, a former caregiver he met during his frequent business trips to southeast Asia.

He would not submit to a personal interview but agreed to answer written questions.

His furtive exit from Canada was a 'purely tactical response to an untenable situation. ' A classic 'fight or flight' brought on by a spiteful ex-wife, an unjust Family Court system and the FRO that descended on him like a pack of wolves, he says.

He accuses his ex of 'using Steven's disease as a weapon against me, which I find most repugnant. ' As far as he knows, Steven's cancer has been conquered, or is in check, and his eldest, Tom, is an adult, and no longer a dependent child of the marriage.

'She is simply lazy and does not want to work, ' Mills says of his ex-wife, adding that the toughest decision of his life has left him exiled. His mother and brother live here in Ontario, as do most of his friends.

'I live in the Philippines for Heaven's sake. This is not a country club. I have to keep a loaded shotgun beside my bed at night in case of attack, of which there have been several. '

He has not yet found greener pastures 'but I can see one from here. ' In the Philippines, he is beyond the reach of Canadian laws, he says, and the FRO is a 'paper tiger' that can do him no harm.

Donna Mills. 51, was once a teacher. She argues her role as primary caregiver during her 22-year marriage forced her out of the traditional work force. She once held down three jobs to make ends meet, but caring for the children consumed all her time.

Besides the $800, 000 debt she says she carries, she owes 2 ½ years in back taxes on the home. Her only source of income is the $2, 500 monthly she gets for her two youngest from the Assistance for Children with Severe Disabilities branch of the Ministry of Children and Youth Services.

Hans Mills says his ex-wife's claims of hardship are exaggerated and 'designed to squeeze more cash out of me by appearing pathetic and helpless. '

One thing is certain.

When he left Canada last fall, Mills left behind a 10-year-old son who had just completed two years of cancer treatment.

Diagnosed with Wilms tumour, a cancer of the kidneys, at age 8, Steven underwent surgery to remove a 1. 4-kilogram tumour that entailed removal of his left kidney and adrenal gland. The latest tests show him to be free of cancer, but he will be tested every few months for the next year.

Mills said she always knew her ex-husband would flee to the Asian subcontinent where he had worked extensively during the past 15 years, and where he met his future wife.

She implored the Family Responsibility Office to try and stop him from leaving, asking that a lien be put on his house in Grimsby, and to seize his passport, but the FRO did not move on those requests. Mills, a Danish immigrant, has both a Canadian and European passport.

Hans Mills was granted a probationary visa by the Philippines government last December, with his common-law wife as his sponsor. The two have since married.

According to the FRO, Hans Mills is more than $28, 000 in arrears and his debt to his family is growing at $3, 772 a month, plus interest.

'The unfortunate reality is that some parents simply refuse to support their children, while others cannot afford to meet their court-ordered obligations, ' said Annette Phillips, director of communications with the Community and Social Services ministry.

WOW, I didn't think anybody else on the net would ever know who Ugly George is! (assuming his ass is still alive, he drinks pretty heavily) , but he started in 19 fuckin 79, it was a different world then, New York was a much more tolerant place and people were interested in experimenting with sexuality and breaking barriers a lot more.

NY is the one place on EARTH where you see mixing of cultures more than anywhere else. Almost anybody under the age of 30 there claims at least two different ethnicities. And as for being financially comfortable, sorry, ladies and gentlemen, having lived for years in both places, a college age girl in Bogota who lives with her parents may not be rolling in money or financially free, but she is a lot more comfortable and taking less financial risks than ANY New Yorker of her age, and nobody in Bogota winds up paying 80% or 90% of their income solely in rent, as they do in NYC COMMONLY! So there must be other factors at work here.

The better question is, why was it so much better to get laid in NYC 30 years ago than it is now?

[QUOTE=Clandestine782;1303917]Ethiopian? Well, if you have a stomach for black women and you want light skin. How many light skinned black be. It. Ches have you already passed over from the United States? If you are a man who is interested in black women, then you have a lot to choose from- even discounting for the premium that goes for light skinned women. (I've never given a second thought to Ethiopians or Eritreans. Or any black women for that matter. But I am aware that the market is there.)[/QUOTE]The one kind of pussy I've never had is South Asian (india pak bangladesh etc) because those cultures are very religious and very old-school and super-hard to penetrate.

And that Ontario story sounds fake to me, this guy would truly be stupid enough to grant the Toronto Star an interview and tell them the TOWN he lives in and his new wife-s FULL NAME? Nahhhhhhhhhh sorry!

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South asians are hard to penetrate. I am one of them and I strongly think that these people do not know how to fuck. Forget about random dates: even husband and wife don't enjoy sex. Sex to them is only to make progenies. LOL. As far as impressing them and dating them, good luck with that. They won't think out of the box. But if you really want those pussies, fly to their countries and with right connections, you can lay a girl as less as 10 dollars. But a good one costs more.

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito; 1304145]The one kind of pussy I've never had is South Asian (india pak bangladesh etc) because those cultures are very religious and very old-school and super-hard to penetrate.

And that Ontario story sounds fake to me, this guy would truly be stupid enough to grant the Toronto Star an interview and tell them the TOWN he lives in and his new wife-s FULL NAME? Nahhhhhhhhhh sorry![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nsd1983;1304810]South asians are hard to penetrate. I am one of them and I strongly think that these people do not know how to fuck. Forget about random dates: even husband and wife don't enjoy sex. Sex to them is only to make progenies. LOL. As far as impressing them and dating them, good luck with that. They won't think out of the box. But if you really want those pussies, fly to their countries and with right connections, you can lay a girl as less as 10 dollars. But a good one costs more.[/QUOTE]I'll have to leave it in the "one day" file. I thought here in London would be my best bet, but man, the women here don't do shit from me, of ANY color or culture really

I also love indie paki and bang women. Add arab to the mix.

NYC is loaded with beautiful women of this nature but if you arent asian or butt white you are out of luck. These girls are amazing to look at but that is where it ends.

[QUOTE=Nsd1983;1304810]South asians are hard to penetrate. I am one of them and I strongly think that these people do not know how to fuck. Forget about random dates: even husband and wife don't enjoy sex. Sex to them is only to make progenies. LOL. As far as impressing them and dating them, good luck with that. They won't think out of the box. But if you really want those pussies, fly to their countries and with right connections, you can lay a girl as less as 10 dollars. But a good one costs more.[/QUOTE]I didn't need any connections in Mumbai. I just RTFF and told a taxi to take my ass to Congress House. It was a big headache though. Every apartment I went to kept trying to pull the bait & switch. They show you a lineup. Then after you pick and go to the room all of a sudden that girl is busy and they try to stiff you with another chick. Besides that everyone wants tips. A pimp asking for a tip? Get the fuck out of here. Then when I finally got a chance to fuck, the girl wanted me to leave a tip for the maid too. I said the only person getting money out of me is the one with my dick in her mouth. Here is the report with pics: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?954-Bombay-Mumbai&p=546451#post546451[/url]

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1303893]I saw a beautiful woman from either Eastern or Central Europe outside the supermarket last night on Long Island, New York. She did not have an ounce of fat on her and she had ebullient blond hair. She was with her boyfriend, Eastern or Central European, of who was smoking and possessive of a pendulous gut. There is no way an American woman as hot as her would go out with him.[/QUOTE]That's normal) The same is in Central Asia, lots of gorgeous girls with regular guys.

On the other hand in USA / W. Europe one can see lots of good-looking and successful guys with not good-looking women, right?

Dude get into matured women between 30-38. Really. They know the importance of our time. Women between 20-30 are bitches. Thats all they got is the skin. Too much bullshit to listen and do for a free fuck.

MUmbai is full of HIV and STDs. I read your report. The girls are not pretty and neither passionate about what they do. Pimps suck big time and lie all the time with no exceptions. They will suck your money like a vampire. You get to fuck for 5-10 min a women of 2-3/10 scale with a horrible hygiene in a non ac dirty room.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1305327]I didn't need any connections in Mumbai. I just RTFF and told a taxi to take my ass to Congress House. It was a big headache though. Every apartment I went to kept trying to pull the bait & switch. They show you a lineup. Then after you pick and go to the room all of a sudden that girl is busy and they try to stiff you with another chick. Besides that everyone wants tips. A pimp asking for a tip? Get the fuck out of here. Then when I finally got a chance to fuck, the girl wanted me to leave a tip for the maid too. I said the only person getting money out of me is the one with my dick in her mouth. Here is the report with pics:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?954-Bombay-Mumbai&p=546451#post546451[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1303055]So here you are saying they are not independent and need a man to feel competent. Basically they lack self esteem and need a man to validate their worth. Sort of like AW were in the 50's.

So you are telling me these women. You can pull up on these amateur Porn sites of AW (some with obviously hidden cameras). Some it appears are having fun (but I guess not. Since you say so)

These are women who don't enjoy sex. They are doing these video's ONLY to please a man. Let alone the millions of AW that don't do video's

How does America ever get Porn stars. Or are those the ONLY ones who like sex?

Are you saying somehow. Sexuality is not a part of a person's makeup. But that its where you live that determines whether you like sex. Women born in the USA some how get their sex genes turned off. They don't like sex. They only do it to please a man.

What about lesbians. Does this phenomenon skip them. Since they don't care about men. Do American Lesbians not enjoy sex too.

In the EE. Somehow. It gets turned on.

WOW. But I guess with American men. It don't work that way. The geographic location doesn't affect them. Only women.[/QUOTE]I AM saying the Eastern European women need a man to feel their life is complete. I did not say it is because of low esteem (although absence will cause that) but probably more due to cultural and social norms.

I AM NOT saying that AW do not like sex (and porn stars or sex videos are no indication of anything real) but I do say that ordinary AW (that we are likely to meet or have a chance of dating) are not nearly so sexually open as EE women. Again I would argue that this is not biological or geographical as you imply, but due to socialization."Good girls don't have sex on the first date (or second or third)." "Professional women don't dress sexy / slutty." Normal women don't date too far out of their age range or ethnic group. These things are generally true in America, at least once you get out of the partying demographic (college girls). The exceptions you see are mostly in magazines and movies, you don't see these behaviours amongst your co-workers or at the shopping mall. But in Eastern Europe you do. Lawyers and doctors wear sexy clothes and stiletto heels at work will dress like hookers on a date and might well end up in your bed just for fun.

Many American women also "need a man" to complete their dream life (although this is becoming increasingly less true) but for them this means a permanent relationship and a family. We all know women who start to panic when they hear their biological clocks ticking and realize that they are running out of time to find a mate, and they no longer have the looks or attitude to play the game. EE girls are highly motivated to find a mate (and are prepared to settle for a boyfriend or even just a date) from a much earlier age, and are fully aware of the tools they need to be successful and work hard at it.

But my original point was really that it is not all about money (although often it is) for EE women. Sure they want to hook up with someone who can provide financial security for them and a future family, but they also are preprogrammed for mating and have not been "de-programmed" as American society, women's lib and "political correctness" have done to AW.

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel;1305838]"Good girls don't have sex on the first date (or second or third).[/QUOTE]. Could it be AW are more educated about STD's. STD's that can kill you. While this may not be a concern for you. It is for a large segment of the population. The 60's thru the late 80's. America went thru the "free love" era. Too bad if you missed it.

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel;1305838]Professional women don't dress sexy / slutty.[/QUOTE]I guess you have never been to South beach or Hollywood. Besides "Sexy" is a matter of opinion. I see plenty of sexy dressed women. I guess you've never seen women in daisy dukes. Thongs on the beach. Its just in America. We believe in you dress appropriate for the place. Most people don't want to see a woman dressed like a **** going to the Mall. As far as at night, I can pull up video's all day long of night club scene's in the USA where the girls dress as sexy / provocative as any EE women.

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel;1305838]Normal women don't date too far out of their age range or ethnic group.[/QUOTE]I definitely can't blame them. While I like late 20's and early 30 yr old women to FUCK. Every time I see a guy over 50 with a woman more than 15 yrs younger. It creeps me out. So I can definitely understand it. I can't see why any woman with anything going for herself, would date a guy that much older. Unless he was keeping her knee deep in luxuries she can't afford for herself.

If I personally knew a woman that did. I would comment about it as I have in the past. If / when I saw a girl out with a older guy. I would pass them my number and tell her."Call me. Once Grandpa goes to bed". Or anything to that effect. They always laughed and took the number. Not saying they all called. But none. NONE. Ever defended the guy, cause they knew it was about the money. And was laughing at him.

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel;1305838]EE girls are highly motivated to find a mate (and are prepared to settle for a boyfriend or even just a date) from a much earlier age,[/QUOTE]You obviously have never been to the "Bible belt" areas of America. Cause if you had. You'd know a lot women in those parts want to marry right after School (HS or College). That is their dream and goal in life.

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel;1305838]But my original point was really that it is not all about money (although often it is) for EE women. Sure they want to hook up with someone who can provide financial security for them and a future family, but they also are preprogrammed for mating and have not been "de-programmed" as American society, women's lib and "political correctness" have done to AW.[/QUOTE]Again this is about economics. Because AW have MORE opportunities when it comes to having a career. So they have MORE options than a EE woman. Sure some EE women have careers. But not close to the abundance of opportunities as AW. So there is a larger population of AW who are career minded. Sure. Who don't need a man financially for security. Therefore they don't have to SETTLE like EE women.

There is no "One shoe fits the whole bunch" with AW. There are differences depending on area of country, size of the city, and education. There are AW of all kinds.

You're vastly overestimating the US economy. These days there are a lot of hella desparate AW but they continue being frigid insipid bitches. And I know a lot of Colombian girls who have all their needs met and are still raging sluts! So I don't buy the pure economics theory. Plus in a lot of European countries they have BIG social safety nets, UNLIKE in the US people in that part of the world don't have to worry so much about food and shelter and ahem MEDICAL CARE. Many countries even have free university, dental etc! Yet one country is sexually very liberal and the next is frigid!