FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[QUOTE=Craiova;1689591]According Oase homepage the 6 for 4 special offer is still valid after around six weeks.[/QUOTE]True. Still valid.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1692035]

Some girls don't want to go with me. Perhaps scared of a less than glowing report to follow.

[/QUOTE]So these are girls you've never previously sessioned with before that are denying you? I remember you writing that the Kenyan girl at Sharks knocked you back but I believe you wrote that you already tried her before, so she was knocking you back based on first-hand experience she had with you. That could be one of the reasons you rarely get bad sessions. The girls will self-disqualify themselves. Makes sense to me. The girl can plainly read your grading criteria and learn what matters most to you. And of course she knows her own limitations of what she is comfortable doing and at what price point she is willing to do it. I am sure most girls in Oase already have your dossier, whether you sessioned with them or not. Certain circles of girls already have mine. My guess is that after showering, a girl will do a brain dump of the session she just had with the customer to all her friends in immediate vicinity. She will repeat this story several times to various friends throughout the night who missed the story. Once she's told the story 3-4 times, her memory has crystallized. If a guy tips generously, every girl will find out about him by the end of the night!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1692035]
It is a disadvantage to be known. Biggest concern is what other forum members will do such as reporting your posts to girls or making trouble in other ways. Syz wrote this and Syz wrote that.
[/QUOTE]In general, I agree that being known as a poster is a bad thing, but I think stlll think there are exceptions to the rule. Namely those guys at NRW clubs who post detailed reports. Perhaps those guys post details with impunity because they attend a single club 250 times a year, and only rotate between a core of ten or less girls. These guys represent a "big whale" for their WGs so the same rules don't apply to them and they can get away with more--like being an Internet poster. The girl is going to pick her battles. The customer would have to cross some serious lines for her to bite the hand that feeds her.

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Not that many detailed reports from what I can see. The Dutch forum groups their threads by the girls name. Most threads have between 5-25 replies. So the girl maybe averages 6 reviews per year. Only about ten percent of those reports are detailed and posted the very next day. These girls have amazing memories. Girls remember the highest payment I ever gave them. Girls remember something I joked about from a previous visit. Girls know how often that I have sessioned with them. Girls remember stories I've told them. I am referring to girls I see maybe four times a year and sessioned with once. Perhaps I am just extremely unique in how I look, behave, and spend-making me easy to remember, but I doubt it.[/QUOTE]Reports may have a lot of detail but not a lot of time individual details which would lead to identification of the guy reporting. I do write detailed reports. Still they are not written the same day I fucked the girl, I do leave out specific detail that are unique to the session we had.

HB.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1691440]How was line up compared to Friday? Any special extra girls showed up? Normally I would attend Saturday rather than Friday.[/QUOTE]Hey Syz,
First of all, thanks noch einmal for the LU list! Timing was just perfect this Saturday making it possible for me to set up a "wish list" from your LU list on the train to Friedrichsdorf. It couldn't have been any better! Again, the accuracy and details of your lists are amazing.

I did not make any effort to make a LU list myself this time, but my gut feeling is that the LU was pretty much the same. I recognize many names from your Friday list as girls being in attendance also on Saturday. I would guess just around same number of girls, but maybe 10- 20 of them being replaced? I have too much respect for you weekly (and easily bored) visitors to suggest that any of them were "special", but to me the LU was solid. If you want me to be more specific I would probably need one of your "missing girls" list to identify a few of the "extra girls" in attendance on Saturday.

Thanks also to Dufey for his LU list, but I think we can agree it must have been written in retrospect (definetively not representing Saturday's line-up).

A few notes:

- At times some of the girls were really "shaking it" to the music provided by the DJ in the evening - making them move a couple of notches up on my to-do list. Hot! Hot! Hot! I wish more girls would do it. It sure has an impact on my priorities.

- I am scrachting my head a bit hearing about the socalled "decline" in business. There were reports on this in 2005 and 2009 too, remember? Funny. It's difficult to agree to this based on my latest visit. +90 girls and a bunch of men, but still good F / M ratios most of the night making superb conditions for a male guest. There are always girls complaining about business (always has been / nothing new). Oase's indoors is like 50% larger than before (?) and with maybe twice as many rooms? I am not missing the crowds and waiting for rooms. The hardware is all so much better now.

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- At times some of the girls were really "shaking it" to the music provided by the DJ in the evening - making them move a couple of notches up on my to-do list. Hot! Hot! Hot! I wish more girls would do it. It sure has an impact on my priorities.[/QUOTE]On my last visits 90% of the music played was Romanian Balcandisco. Quite annoying even if the girls liked it.

HB.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1691870]I met your Rafaella this Sunday evening in Samya, she was Juliana in Magnum for 7 months and will be Juliana in Oase next week, she already worked a few days in Oase 2 or 3 weeks ago, at the beginning she will have big success in Oase due to her pretty look and her services not exceptional but at same level as many girls in Oase, but better services for Valentina in Samya.[/QUOTE]Sorry, can you clarify? Is Rafaella the better or worse for service compared to Valentine at Samya?

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1691873]In Oase, there is a rule about picking up a girl from the parking lot (except at closing of course). The girl could have problems with Mauro if security tells Mauro that a customer picked her up in the parking lot (security has camera views of the entire parking). So if you pick up a girl to take her out, it must be outside of the camera view of the parking. The best thing is for her to take a taxi off-site, like to your nearby hotel for example, and then, continue your adventure from there. When you bring her back to the club, it is best to drop her off in the street, just outside the parking, so she can walk back into the parking so that security won't see a recognizable customer dropping her off.[/QUOTE]UH,

You are probably right but this has not stopped girls suggesting that I collect them from in the Oase car park to drive them away and we doing as planned. Maybe this is because it is the end of their day shift (or night shift depending). If the girl leaves during their working shift hours then that is another story since the girls need permission to just run off. Also the girls invariably have to past by reception to get out so would be seen.

[QUOTE=Faceless78;1692020]Sleep in club costs 20 euros a day, I've seen pics, something like the hostel, not too bad.[/QUOTE]Indeed it is shared rooms so you can have maybe 4 girls or more in the room. Let us say two girls work the day shift and two girls do the night shift. So you each set of girls will disturb the others in their work and sleep patterns. Also there is some girl that want the window open and others that want the window closed. One girl "borrow" the soap and shampoo of another girl and not ask the owner of said products for permission to use them. All the usual issues of girls living close together.

This is why many girls try to take an apartment elsewhere to live more "normally" if they can afford to. Sometimes the ability to find accommodation dictates for the girls where they work and inevitably the clubs with the dormitories for the girls like Mainhattan, Sharks, Oase and World win out in this regard.

[QUOTE=Faceless78;1692066]About girls without gels, I've heard but never met, are they get wet or just with the limited gel on condoms?[/QUOTE]Girls can be different like guys can be different. There are many instances that the girl I have booked is naturally wet and did not need lube. Usually after some DATY has been performed this is the case but also many instances that there was no need for saliva or just a bit of spit on the hand placed on the twat is enough. That is nice when that happens as it feels more intimate and natural like for the sex.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;1692149]Perhaps I am just extremely unique in how I look, behave, and spend-making me easy to remember, but I doubt it.[/QUOTE]All guys are unique. This is how the girls remember the little things. You even say yourself you cannot explain how the girls remember the money you spent and what you liked in the room. How did they do that if they do not remember. You have to give the girls some credit sometimes.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;1692164] I am sure most girls in Oase already have your dossier, whether you sessioned with them or not. Certain circles of girls already have mine. My guess is that after showering, a girl will do a brain dump of the session she just had with the customer to all her friends in immediate vicinity. She will repeat this story several times to various friends throughout the night who missed the story. Once she's told the story 3-4 times, her memory has crystallized. If a guy tips generously, every girl will find out about him by the end of the night!

those guys at NRW clubs who post detailed reports. Perhaps those guys post details with impunity because they attend a single club 250 times a year, and only rotate between a core of ten or less girls. These guys represent a "big whale" for their WGs so the same rules don't apply to them and they can get away with more--like being an Internet poster. The girl is going to pick her battles. The customer would have to cross some serious lines for her to bite the hand that feeds her.[/QUOTE]This point about the generous guys or the big tippers has been discussed earlier in the threads. The girls are competing with each other. For a girl to going boasting to all and sundry that X client is a generous with the extras and the tips then next thing you know all her friends and competitors are all going for the same customer to get his business. It is like you had the formula for Coca cola and went to tell everyone about it so that they can make it at home. Then the value of your coca cola formula is that much diminished.

As for the detailed report writers from the German and Dutch forums there are some that would not post anything for fear of annoying their favourites such that services are withheld with what they wrote or if they did write anything they kept it circumspect or in passing with no details. I mean what would you do? If you had a favourite who did all the naughty things that you liked, would you write a detailed report about that and then keep on about it?

[QUOTE=Dufey;1692208]Sorry, can you clarify? Is Rafaella the better or worse for service compared to Valentine at Samya?[/QUOTE]Juliana ex Rafaella Samya ex Juliana Magnum will be one of the prettiest at Oase, Valentina in Samya is not so slim and a little bit older, maybe you can see her photos on Samya site, but she would be a superstar in Oase with higher services than Oase girls, a real charming shinning GFE with green eyes looking for contact, a real woman when Juliana is only a teen top model with average services but good BBBJ and pleasure in doggy.

Castings were close on Friday and Saturday, Saturday with Roxana back and Lexi but no Kim nor Shayenne, many girls said they worked better on Friday but also said not enough.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1691822][QUOTE=Dufey;1692208]Sorry, can you clarify? Is Rafaella the better or worse for service compared to Valentine at Samya?[/QUOTE]

Will arrive soon Juliana. Ro 20 yo met this Sunday in Samya and ex Magnum, a real natural beauty, real blond with pony tail, angel face, ultra slim with small tits, 1,55 40 kg, when I saw her after my super discovery of wonderful Valentina. Ro, I could not resist, no 2nd meeting with Valentina, no meeting with Candy, the dancing star of Samya for who knows, the prettiest was Juliana / Rafaella in Samya since 3 days after 7 months in Magnum, what a pleasure for eyes to fuck a so pretty doll, friendly but professional with average services like most of girls in Oase, Oase have good casting but not the best services girls and [b]Juliana services are far behind the real woman Valentina [/b]for only 75/ h with this jewel, [/QUOTE]He already said this, and he means her services is not as great as that Valentina girl. Another Samya girl I hear moving to Oase. Last one was Angie, who I remember from Samya, bubbly girl with funny dances when at Samya. She must have made enough money and moved on. More money at Oase if you do well there. Probably seen this Juliana around at Magnum one time or another.

[QUOTE=Dufey;1692226]This point about the generous guys or the big tippers has been discussed earlier in the threads. The girls are competing with each other. For a girl to going boasting to all and sundry that X client is a generous with the extras and the tips then next thing you know all her friends and competitors are all going for the same customer to get his business. It is like you had the formula for Coca cola and went to tell everyone about it so that they can make it at home. Then the value of your coca cola formula is that much diminished.
[/QUOTE]A little exaggeration on my part, it's probably not the whole club that finds out, but they will most certainly tell most of their friends. I think the girls understand that men go to the club to enjoy multiple girls. On a few occasions, I've sessioned the same girl three times in one day. One girl four times. Said favourite and all of her friends were always amazed by that--presumably because it is a rare occurence. Point is the girl usually assumes that she's made her money off of the customer for that particular day, and they assume that the man is going to move onto another girl--because that is what 90% of men will do. So why not help out one of her friends as a gesture of good will that might potentially be reciprocated?

Just about every Romanian girl that eventually became a favorite, at some point early on, asked me if I was interested in seeing one of their friends. Often they will ask me, "you like my friend? She is beautiful, isn't she?" Often they do this when the girl is sitting right there, creating an awkward situation. Sometimes I just flatly say "No". Sometimes I just joke around a little before telling them "No". Sometimes this is an empty gesture, because they know the girl is not my type whatsoever, and they know that the girl is not a threat, and they anticipate that I will say "No". So in that sense, you are absolutely right. They are hoarding me for themselves.

So why do they do that? Because business is about strategic alliances as well. Laura / Livia introduces you to Ugly friend. You say "No". Ugly friend reciprocates the favor for Laura at a later time, but the difference is Laura / Livia can probably capture / convert the referral business that gets sent her way. Often times it is not an empty gesture as I describe. They genuimely send referral business, and hope that they get some referrals back. One of my top optificks at Oase got ostracized by her circle of friends because she never "returned the favor". My last visit a few weeks ago, I saw her with her old friends again, so I can only assume she learned her lesson. Bear in mind that what I describe is a Romanian manner of conducting business. Meaning there is general phoniness and friendliness that is expected. Definitely not a common German trait.

Also there is no point in hiding it. Laura / Livia knows other girls saw her go in the room. They know roughly how long she was off the floor. What customer she was with last seen with. With business being slow, this allows girls to be more nosier and gossipy than usual. The girls can also see what kind of post-zimmer after-sales you got. If they see a busy girl like Laura showering you with attention, they can deduce that you are big spender. Because she probably doesn't do that for the guys who just paid her a 50 EUR note. The girls watch the interactions at the money locker every bit as closely as the men do. If Laura truly wanted to hide that she received a significant sum from you, she would have to ignore you post-zimmer. And she won't do that because she risks losing a repeat customer who pays well.

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As for the detailed report writers from the German and Dutch forums there are some that would not post anything for fear of annoying their favourites such that services are withheld with what they wrote or if they did write anything they kept it circumspect or in passing with no details. I mean what would you do? If you had a favourite who did all the naughty things that you liked, would you write a detailed report about that and then keep on about it?[/QUOTE]I agree that they leave out the really good stuff. I am not talking about just sexual details of what occured in the room, but rather identifying detail, like a play-by-play replay of the conversation they had with the girl inside / outside the room. Sirioja recently recounted an exchange with Stella at Palace for the whole of ISG. Roughly I think it went like this: Sirioja: "Do you kiss?" Stella: "Honey, I sell sex not love". Sirioja: "I didn't ask you to tell me you love me, I asked you for DFK". The answer from Stella may be a stock reply she gives to lots of men, but I don't consider Sirioja's witty comeback as being standard, and it probably stuck in Stella's head, "Like who is this crazy French guy think he is". Sirioja wrote this on ISG a few weeks ago--these are not details that Sirioja told me in private that I am repeating on ISG. On the Dutch and French forums, they go much further than this often offering the full transcript from a conversation earlier that day LOL. How could the girl not identify a poster like this?