FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

Just to confirm, the Carla I took is not Cindy from Sharks (who was also there). Young looking girl, with long black hair and soft see-cups that look bigger on her tiny frame. Sophia (redhead with a great body and a sort of thingy on her nose) was very clear about my fingers not being to forward with her pussy (let alone her ass) and as stated a bit of a french kiss (which wasn't bad at all, just not very forthcoming).

I can't help it, of the twelve session this weekend the three in Oase rank in the last three spots.

[QUOTE=FreeDude;1597197]Just to confirm, the Carla I took is not Cindy from Sharks (who was also there). Young looking girl, with long black hair and soft see-cups that look bigger on her tiny frame. Sophia (redhead with a great body and a sort of thingy on her nose) was very clear about my fingers not being to forward with her pussy (let alone her ass) and as stated a bit of a french kiss (which wasn't bad at all, just not very forthcoming).

I can't help it, of the twelve session this weekend the three in Oase rank in the last three spots.[/QUOTE]Yeh. Shit happens. I am going to be concentrating on tried and tested girls at Oase, with just the odd experiment if she is just too hot to be ignored, or maybe consistently highly recommended. Oase has always had the mix of good and lousy girls. Maybe give just a few girls another chance to do better. Like Alexia was not that great (not bad either) when I first tried her, but I feel sure she can a lot better, if in the right mood.

Every club has to have a mix of good and lousy girls, especially with many new girls starting. It then seems to be partly related to the overall culture of the club, in relation to whether the new girls attitude improves or gets worse.

I think overall there is significantly more upsell type behaviour at Oase than at Sharks and World. That tends to correlate to worse service as well. Even though World may have a weak line up, average service levels are probably higher IMHO. So at Oase, its much easier to find a weak session, and a bit more difficult to avoid them.

Your Carla, is clearly not a girl I know, but thanks for the warning. If you liked her look, I probably would too.

[QUOTE=AugustYa;1596957]If you want to? Can you share the name of this girl? If not the name maybe atleast a description? On how she looks?[/QUOTE]I don't remember the name, sorry. But I can describe her.

She had blonde hair, with some dark stripes I think. She was thin, with natural breast (about a handful I would say, perky). I believe she had a piercing on her lip.

[QUOTE=Jooeey;1597054]I have a problem with this. What if I am unsure about how much time I am going to spend with the girl because it also depends on how is the service of the girl? If I am enjoying it with her not? So how does one decide if he is not sure from the beginning! It is not written on any girls face if she is going to be a good performer or not unless there has already been some feedback about that girl somewhere!![/QUOTE]In my experience this is not an issue. I usually say at the beginning that I never know how long I want to stay but that I usually stay an hour. She always ask if I want to extend if I have not come yet when the half hour approaches. In my experience the girls do prefer longer sessions, they say so themselves and that makes sense since they don't have to go out and find a new client to make more money. What I did last night at Artemis with 2 of the girls was that I said we look at the clock before we start and when we finish and then the time is what it is and I will pay for the time I have used. If there is more time left we just chat about things.

[QUOTE=FreeDude;1597197] Sophia (redhead with a great body and a sort of thingy on her nose) was very clear about my fingers not being to forward with her pussy (let alone her ass) and as stated a bit of a french kiss (which wasn't bad at all, just not very forthcoming).
.[/QUOTE]I've had similar experiences with Sofia as Hessen Bob. I've also done 3 sessions with her. All 1 hour. Not the most enthusiastic kisser and not the most beautiful face in the club, but stunning body. What has kept me coming back to her is that I've found it relatively easy to get her genuinely involved in the session. And once she is turned on she's very enthusiastic and very direct about what she likes. I normally like a nice GFE. She's not that so much, but it is genuine, great sex with a nice girl who once she gets going is surprising in what she likes. And yes don't worry about fingering, she grabs my fingers and sticks them where she wants them when she's ready. The first time I wondered if she was going to charge me for anal when we finished the session, but no charge, just what she likes.

She also seems a bit more together than most of the girls. I would have done more sessions with her, but she worlks days, doesn't work weekends, doesn't work public holidays and doesn't work if she thinks the club will be quite. So I just don't see her that often at the club. She always seems relaxed and easy going. Upsell doesn't bother me, but for people who it does, she's never had a hint of upsell and is very fair on the time.

I assume it is the same Sofia. The one I've been with has a large tattoo on the left side of her Stomach.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1597308]I think overall there is significantly more upsell type behaviour at Oase than at Sharks and World. That tends to correlate to worse service as well. Even though World may have a weak line up, average service levels are probably higher IMHO. So at Oase, its much easier to find a weak session, and a bit more difficult to avoid them.

[/QUOTE]I wonder on what you base your statement that "overall there is significantly more upsell...at Oase?" Because, by your own accounts, you hardly visit Oase anymore, maybe once or twice in the past several months (?). I ask, because I was there just a couple of weeks back and I tried lots and lots of the very good looking "new" talent that filled out the line-ups I encountered there on several different nights: Hardly got any upsell or lack-lustre service at all, and this from girls that were newly arrived at the club. Mind you, I did also reject several "new" girls as well because I could "sniff out" bad signs (or not overly positive vibes) from them.

But I don't see the situation at Oase as any different from any of the other Hessen Clubs (okay, Palace is an exceptional place in this regard): Many girls at Oase were also working at other clubs as well including Sharks. So the girls all shift around from club to club. Whilst, yes there are club cultures that do come into play, I don't know if a newly arrived girl (having worked in another club or new to the business) would be able to absorb any club culture in just a few days. Plus there is the basic "way to make good money" culture which is: If I give guys good service they will come back for more and spread my good reputation around the club.

In my more limited visits to Sharks, I've had some good sessions, but also a few lack-lustre ones and one or two attempts at upsell as well. I think this can / does happen at any club, even in the NRW: Look at that guy who posted last week about paying 450 e for a threesome session at one of the Koln or Dusseldorf clubs (I forget which one exactly, Samya maybe). So it can happen anywhere.

Really, when I was in Frankfurt during June, I went to Oase, Sharks and World with a fully open mind and seeking enthusiastically to engage good service girls at all these three clubs. My efforts were thwarted at World due to the bad line-ups on two different days (a Tues and Saturday) and at Sharks also I was let down by the line-up on a weekday. But any day I went to Oase, be it a weekend or weekday, I was blown-away in a positive manner by the line-up and great service levels I was able to find inside the Zimmer. I did take my time, however, to select carefully the session partners and I had good "radar" and a bit of luck. But for me, a few weeks ago at least, Oase delivered better club experiences than any of the other two clubs. But as we all know: things can change up and down fast.

So I would urge you, if you do revisit Oase in the near future, not to reject out of hand trying new girls who pass your physical looks test. Just make sure you don't have another "Raissa moment" and make sure she has the personality / chemistry / good vibes (whatever you want to call it) for a successful session.

[QUOTE=Ortos;1597491]Just make sure you don't have another "Raissa moment" and make sure she has the personality / chemistry / good vibes (whatever you want to call it) for a successful session.[/QUOTE]+1 that is indeed the best strategy in EVERY club, even in the "service clubs" you can get failure if you don't use this rule!

First time to Oase yesterday. Was there around 13.30. Wanted to session right away and as soon as I saw Karolina from Poland we went to a room. She was perfect in the room for me, would and will repeat sometime I hope. She was really busy for the rest of the day I was there so she must be known here.

Second session was with Kate. Big-boobed Kate we should call her, E-cups. Funny girl and very good in the room. Sharks was my favourite club before but I rather go to Oase now.

[QUOTE=Ortos;1597491]I wonder on what you base your statement that "overall there is significantly more upsell...at Oase?" [/QUOTE]+1. Sometimes just remember: "Reden ist Silber, Schweigen ist Gold".

HB.

[QUOTE=Ortos;1597491]I wonder on what you base your statement that "overall there is significantly more upsell...at Oase?" Because, by your own accounts, you hardly visit Oase anymore, maybe once or twice in the past several months (?).[/QUOTE]You seem very sensitive to any type of slightly negative comment about Oase. "significantly more" may have been an unfortunate phrase open to the wrong interpretation. I am an Oase fan, and expect to be attending regularly. I just try to be realistic so that newbies do not get shocked when they meet an upsell type of girl. Every club has its pros and cons.

Dufey has mentioned the boss instructions for girls. If girls ask me how long I want to spend in the room, when we just met, I'm sorry, but I regard that as light upsell.

Sure I base my statement on the last 2 years (and even longer ago) when I went to Oase many times. True I did not attend for several months from late 2013 to May this year. Right now I have been away for just a few weeks. Apologies if my comment is not 100% current. I would be very surprised if upsell levels have decreased in recent times. It depends greatly on which girls are chosen of course. However over a long period of time, I met more girls trying to upsell at Oase than at World or Sharks. Its relative. Oase has long been a club with a percentage of upsell girls, but nothing in comparison to Palace of course. So upsell in Oase exists but is not so bad, that I would refuse to attend. I found upsell to be virtually non-existent at World. Just my opinions. When at Sharks, I talked to girls that just moved from Palace, they almost invariably got into upsell type of talk, like they had been trained in it at Palace. Apart from these new girls, I did not experience much upsell at Sharks, or maybe I have bad memory.

I am not trying to knock Oase at all. You well know, I only was absent for several months due to all my favourites disappearing, and being addicted to certain girls at other clubs. I have not been a strong criticiser of Oase at any stage, except for the Italian songs in the change room. LOL. I will continue to be a regular at Oase, and try to choose girls carefully. To avoid the dick scared girls that seize up in the room, I might need to change my preliminary procedures a bit.

I will go to any club that has the most stunning set of girls. We always have a few little negative things to put up with whether is food, room temperatures, etc.

I agree with you, Syzygies. As a relative newbie (I have been to Oase twice and several NRW clubs in the past and I am planning to be at Oase in a few weeks), I find the 'upsell' at Oase to be actually somewhat preferable to the near silence (even scowls) from girls at NRW clubs. I have never been to World (spent too much time in Oase), Sharks (didn't exist on my last trip), or Palace (too 'touristy'.

I see nothing wrong with (and in some ways prefer) a pretty girl approaching me with some interest (ok, the interest is in the 50 Euro, instead of me, but I can pretend, LOL) to go to the zimmer (kino or garden) AND ask if I am interested in a longer session AND any extras that she offers (e. G. CIM, anal sex). Its no different that a store owner asking you if you'd be interested in a new product on sale, related to something you are buying. At least it gives me a chance to know what she offers and how much it would cost.

I would consider upselling is a girl repeatedly asking for a longer session, or CIM, or anal once it was declined (unless I ask myself because it is earned by a great standard 30 minute session). Or upselling would be holding back on standard services (DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc) unless you took the bait for extended services.

In any case, fortunately, I'll find out in a few weeks whether the Oase 'upsell' is any worse now than it was a few years ago.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1597691]However over a long period of time, I met more girls trying to upsell at Oase than at World or Sharks. Its relative. Oase has long been a club with a percentage of upsell girls, but nothing in comparison to Palace of course. So upsell in Oase exists but is not so bad, that I would refuse to attend. I found upsell to be virtually non-existent at World. Just my opinions. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mambomike;1597807]In any case, fortunately, I'll find out in a few weeks whether the Oase 'upsell' is any worse now than it was a few years ago.[/QUOTE]I don't say its any worse. There always was some upsell from some girls. I got used to Oase levels long ago.

If a girl I just met asks how long I want to spend, I have to say I have no idea, I often take more than 30 minutes, but depends on whether we are having a "good" time. It should be obvious (and usually is) to an experienced girl that the time spent will depend greatly on the level of enjoyment. Most girls will have observed that I disappear in room with my favourites for extended sessions. Its purely up to the girls' performance.

I don't mind if a girl asks politely, however how can she get any simple answer, other than "I don't know yet". I don't like to make a bullshit answer, and I don't want to say "just 30 minutes", as there is scope for more. I don't like the idea, that the girl might be deciding if kissing will be on offer based on the session duration. She has to provide the fun first in order to get the extra time. I sometimes leave a session after only 15 minutes or less if its a clear disaster and not worth wasting any more time.

Once I suggested going with a Palace girl (at the Palace). She asked what things I wanted to do. I did not want to promise anything, but asked her would it help if I took an hour? She said, no thanks, she did not want to do an hour. Go figure. I think she was looking for quick turn around 15 min customers, for BJ and CIM. Not my thing at all.

I find it hard to remember any really great girls who needed to know the length of the session in advance, unless they had a very specific reason like a pre-booked appointment time or were ready to go home. Generally asking the length of a session is totally unnecessary. Either party can decline to extend, if they have had enough already.

One thing I noticed is that after I enquired about kissing, girls would ask what else I liked. If that is "normal" stuff, they don't really like it (ie they want extras). Of course, small sample etc. HB's little love Sophia did the same thing.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1597691]You seem very sensitive to any type of slightly negative comment about Oase. [/QUOTE]The truth is that I am really not that bothered or "sensitive" about negative comments on this (or other) fora about Oase or any other club. Everybody has, and should have, their own and often differing opinions. So sorry if my comment gave you a false impression.

I was only trying to stress with enthusiasm two points:

1) over the past two years I keep reading about the high upsell at Oase and that new talent does not deliver in the room, but each time I visit I find matters to be very much the opposite;.

2) that you should not reject going with some of the extensive (and steadily fluctuating) talent at Oase these days (unless the flow of these girls has ended for the summer recess).

Beyond this: I would urge you, and any other interested reader, to actually visit Oase right now ("whilst the pickings are good!) rather than swallow hook-line-and-sinker every post about the demise of this club. Some posters may have other issues with the club and / or Mauro (issues which are not relevant to all of us), and in other cases, posts that reveal the content of "Mauro's Secret Boardroom Meetings" are (at best) second-hand information and may be possibly out of date, but we have no way to know this for sure.

The only thing I do know for sure: A few weeks ago when I made back to back visits to 4 of Hessen's best clubs, Oase blew away the others in terms of line-up, club vibe, zimmer performance and overall club experience. At least that was the way it was for me. I accept it may be different for others and I, of course, respect that.

I look forward to going to Oase this coming Monday and Tuesday, it will be my first visit.

[QUOTE=Ortos;1598351]The truth is that I am really not that bothered or "sensitive" about negative comments on this (or other) fora about Oase or any other club. Everybody has, and should have, their own and often differing opinions. So sorry if my comment gave you a false impression.

I was only trying to stress with enthusiasm two points:

1) over the past two years I keep reading about the high upsell at Oase and that new talent does not deliver in the room, but each time I visit I find matters to be very much the opposite;.

2) that you should not reject going with some of the extensive (and steadily fluctuating) talent at Oase these days (unless the flow of these girls has ended for the summer recess).

Beyond this: I would urge you, and any other interested reader, to actually visit Oase right now ("whilst the pickings are good!) rather than swallow hook-line-and-sinker every post about the demise of this club. Some posters may have other issues with the club and / or Mauro (issues which are not relevant to all of us), and in other cases, posts that reveal the content of "Mauro's Secret Boardroom Meetings" are (at best) second-hand information and may be possibly out of date, but we have no way to know this for sure.

The only thing I do know for sure: A few weeks ago when I made back to back visits to 4 of Hessen's best clubs, Oase blew away the others in terms of line-up, club vibe, zimmer performance and overall club experience. At least that was the way it was for me. I accept it may be different for others and I, of course, respect that.[/QUOTE]