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[QUOTE=Chico Charlie 1;1547742]Diana? Half Bulgarian / Romanian. Says she is of Tartar descent. Was good in the lounge outside promising a world of goodies. Once inside the room started upselling for everything including anal. Really bad service. Wanted to have a cim but after such attitude came in missionary and gave 50 bucks for 15 mins.[/QUOTE]To avoid upselling in the room, I always tell the girl during the interview process that I do not want anal, CIM, COB, COF or any extra Euro services but do want DFK, DATY, etc. For the standard 50 Euro. I also tell her that I take a long time to come, if I come at all, and she should not expect to be out of the room before the 30-minutes are over. If she still agrees to go with you, you got a good shot at getting good service. If not, you probably avoided a bad session.
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[QUOTE=AugustYa;1547866]The taxi driver who dropped me at OASE was giving some of his own tips he said when he normally goes there he makes the girl give her blowjob in the kino area and just when it is about to explode for him he just stops her there and takes her to the room ! And this is all for 50 Euros ![/QUOTE]Sure, you can do that, but as soon as she gets her lips on your thang, the clock is started. If you were kissing her before the BJ began, the clock began at that moment. There is no free lunch. So if you want to spend 15 minutes getting BJ in the kino and then go to the room, you have another 15 minutes in the room and you owe 50 euros.
If you want to extend to an hour it will be another 50. I guarantee that 95% of the girls will check her watch and charge for that kino BJ, unless maybe she is desparate and you are a real stud and very handsome. The former is more likely than the latter LOL.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1; 1547905]Sure, you can do that, but as soon as she gets her lips on your thang, the clock is started. If you were kissing her before the BJ began, the clock began at that moment. There is no free lunch. So if you want to spend 15 minutes getting BJ in the kino and then go to the room, you have another 15 minutes in the room and you owe 50 euros.
If you want to extend to an hour it will be another 50. I guarantee that 95% of the girls will check her watch and charge for that kino BJ, unless maybe she is desparate and you are a real stud and very handsome. The former is more likely than the latter LOL.[/QUOTE]Right! Exactly! And fearing this that it might be extra 50 Euros I did not implement his idea LOL! When in doubt be on the Err side LOL!
So were the girls extra nice during the messe period which normally they are not ?
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[QUOTE=AugustYa; 1547915]Right! Exactly! And fearing this that it might be extra 50 Euros I did not implement his idea LOL! When in doubt be on the Err side LOL!
So were the girls extra nice during the messe period which normally they are not?[/QUOTE]Normally during Messe, the girls take less time with a customer and are not as nice because there are so many potential customers to process. Non-messe times are preferable to get "special favors" or more time from the girls, its a supply and demand thing.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1547920]Normally during Messe, the girls take less time with a customer and are not as nice because there are so many potential customers to process. Non-messe times are preferable to get "special favors" or more time from the girls, its a supply and demand thing.[/QUOTE]I guess my friend who went along with a girl, I think the girl was also telling him the same thing, best time to visit a FKK is during non messe times. There are few customers and the girls just like bees stick to the swarm are there to almost fulfil what ever the customer demands!
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1547920]Normally during Messe, the girls take less time with a customer and are not as nice because there are so many potential customers to process. Non-messe times are preferable to get "special favors" or more time from the girls, its a supply and demand thing.[/QUOTE]Not sure I totally agree. When the rooms are over utilised, the girl wants to get in a room and stay there. Therefore she does not want to be in quick process mode, if she has any brains at all. She will certainly desire customers who want 60 or 90 mins.
The smart girls will start early and finish early while room waits not too bad.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1547967]Not sure I totally agree. When the rooms are over utilised, the girl wants to get in a room and stay there. Therefore she does not want to be in quick process mode, if she has any brains at all. She will certainly desire customers who want 60 or 90 mins.
The smart girls will start early and finish early while room waits not too bad.[/QUOTE]You have a point syzygies, and girls like our Lavinia probably find that easy to do. Messe is indeed the time to repair with your honey to a room and not come out. But my experience is most girls who are trolling try and take you into the kino, or some out of the way corner and get you off as quickly as possible. And they are stressed out and distracted since there are no rooms and all these fat fish swimming around. I avoid Messe like the plague, just like I avoid party nights.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1547979]And they are stressed out and distracted since there are no rooms and all these fat fish swimming around. I avoid Messe like the plague, just like I avoid party nights.[/QUOTE]I avoid party nights, the same. However I found Messe event times not so bad, as long as left well before midnight and choose the right day. World was virtually unaffected by Messe, or not that I could tell, leaving not too late.
Yes, I used to do 60 to 90 mins with lovely Lavinia. I was not in a big hurry to get out of the room.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1547988]I avoid party nights, the same. However I found Messe event times not so bad, as long as left well before midnight and choose the right day. World was virtually unaffected by Messe, or not that I could tell, leaving not too late.
Yes, I used to do 60 to 90 mins with lovely Lavinia. I was not in a big hurry to get out of the room.[/QUOTE]Agree, World is never affected by Messe, but party nights are a disaster. If I fly across the ocean, I don't want to have to leave too early because the place will be a sausage fest, so World is the logical choice during Messe. Other times, World is too far unless I am travelling with companions who have a car.
60-90 minutes minimum with Lavinia is the norm. I miss her.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1; 1547905]Sure, you can do that, but as soon as she gets her lips on your thang, the clock is started. If you were kissing her before the BJ began, the clock began at that moment. There is no free lunch. So if you want to spend 15 minutes getting BJ in the kino and then go to the room, you have another 15 minutes in the room and you owe 50 euros.
If you want to extend to an hour it will be another 50. I guarantee that 95% of the girls will check her watch and charge for that kino BJ, unless maybe she is desparate and you are a real stud and very handsome. The former is more likely than the latter LOL.[/QUOTE]Having met Beffen1 some years ago, and holding him in high esteem for his contributions to ISG, I am loathe to disagree with his comments above but I have never heard that the clock starts when the kissing starts in any club or that it always starts when the BJ starts in the kino in Oase (the only club, other than the red carpet clubs, where I have regularly gotten BJs outside of the room). Being neither very handsome, studly, or young, I should have been regularly charged for the kino time but it has happened to me only twice in 6-7 years, once with Fiden (Fidan?) a couple of years ago, and Patricia (Romanian) before that, but then again the BJ lasts only about 2-3 minutes before we go to the room, not 10-15 minutes, in which case she would no doubt charge for it.
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Thanks, great report. I sessioned with both Maria and Chantelle a couple of weeks ago, and Maria was the first one who gave me a BBBJ ever in any club anywhere in the world (prior to her, I insisted on taking a CBJ. It somehow got tempted and accepted a BBBJ from her) and later on fucked Chantelle in the kino in a separate session. Very delightful and pretty girls both, and I enjoyed Maria's BBBJ so much.
[QUOTE=Scripted Life; 1547457]Day 6, FKK#4.
FKK Oase. 20 March (Thursday)
Synopsis: As always, YMMV. From reading the forums, it seemed to me that Oase was the most famous of all the FKK's in the Frankfurt area, if not Germany. Even with some healthy trepidation, due to the overwhelming reports of shark-infested waters and turbulence, I decided I needed to give it a go and see for myself. Frustration ensued.
Facility: 60/70 Euro. I honestly forget. As has been mentioned numerous times before, the facility grounds are designed in an old Grecian / Roman style. It's very eye-catching and of all the places I had visited so far, it was easily the most modern feeling; it had TV's and lighted signs everywhere touting its women, facilities, and showing you where to go. It had a kind of glitzy Las Vegas feel to it all. There were two main areas, the discotek bar area right when you walk in, and then the giant donut Jacuzzi area with the restaurant and rooms lining it. They converted a side room that overlooks the lawn and sauna into a conservatory aka sleeping room, and it's worth mentioning that the lawn area is twice the size of the actual facility, but no one was outside due to the weather...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Beffen1; 1548017]Agree, World is never affected by Messe, but party nights are a disaster. If I fly across the ocean, I don't want to have to leave too early because the place will be a sausage fest, so World is the logical choice during Messe. Other times, World is too far unless I am travelling with companions who have a car.
60-90 minutes minimum with Lavinia is the norm. I miss her.[/QUOTE]Guys,
I am planning to be at Oase during the week of 19 of May, any Messe around that time? How can I find out?
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Jblack; 1548215]Guys,
I am planning to be at Oase during the week of 19 of May, any Messe around that time? How can I find out?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.messefrankfurt.com/frankfurt/en/messe/publications/messekalender.html[/url]
Beffen- google is our friend
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[QUOTE=Jblack; 1548215]Guys,
I am planning to be at Oase during the week of 19 of May, any Messe around that time? How can I find out?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]If you cannot look directly at the Messe schedule (cf. Beffen's post) , then simply access any online hotel bookings site: If the hotel prices in / around Frankfurt are sky high during your dates, that is a pretty good indication that Messe is in town.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1548035]Having met Beffen1 some years ago, and holding him in high esteem for his contributions to ISG, I am loathe to disagree with his comments above but I have never heard that the clock starts when the kissing starts in any club or that it always starts when the BJ starts in the kino in Oase (the only club, other than the red carpet clubs, where I have regularly gotten BJs outside of the room). Being neither very handsome, studly, or young, I should have been regularly charged for the kino time but it has happened to me only twice in 6-7 years, once with Fiden (Fidan?) a couple of years ago, and Patricia (Romanian) before that, but then again the BJ lasts only about 2-3 minutes before we go to the room, not 10-15 minutes, in which case she would no doubt charge for it.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jimmy boy for the kind words. OK, in practice maybe the clock doesn't start for every coupling with the first DFK smooch in the kino. And if you have any kind of game or rapport with the girl maybe even a few slurps on your schwantz in the kino might not count toward room time. But "legally" the girl is within her rights to count the beginning of a session onto any time calculations for sessions that begin im kino and end in the zimmer. Now what happens when a session begins in the kino, you transfer to look for a room and they are all besetz and you must wait?. That goes to the high hooker council for adjudication. I might end by saying I too have had many sessions that began in kino and end in a room and the issue hasn't arisen, if the girl is at all hot and willing I usually take an hour. But as a strategy for getting more face or "head" time with the girls, the taxi driver's strategy will brand you as a cheap charlie at best and cause a conflict if the girl presses it at worst.