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[QUOTE=Dufey;1695598]See another view from another senior poster's view on reports of girls.[/QUOTE]I understand what you are saying but this applies to the pics as well doesn't it? Obviously I will look for girls that I'm attracted to, ask her name and if I have read good things about her I might start inquiring services provided. For instance it will help me avoid stunners which provide lousy service based on several reviews.
Ok I might look for girls that are praised by "almost" everybody e. G. Fatima Artemis, but if not my type I will pass.
Dufey, luv reading your reports so maybe you can add pics (lookalikes) under their name next time and we get the best of both worlds, hehe.
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I appreciate all reports. Highly detailed and more high level. As an infrequent FKK visitor its all about getting as broad of a view of things, and then focusing on the recent reports with specific experiences with specific girls.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1695503]Ex-World Diana-Simona was present today at Oase, complete with handbag. No sisters present though.
And you are right that most of the newer girls present had sillies. As such, I was not tempted to try any of the new ones. Luckily, despite the weak line-up today, 2 of my favourites were present to fulfill my needs.[/QUOTE]Wow that is nice. Thanks.
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Compare to the case of World and thinking that they cannot survive since everyone is saying that it is dead. If World can convince maybe 40 girls a day to come in to work each day then that is a base of 2,800 euro per day gross income to run the club. I think a good business manager should be able to do that even for a place the size of World and make a margin on the entrance fees still before taking into account the customers that did come in.[/QUOTE]I think that World can gradually recover but they might need a new attitude to make the girls happy. Oase rose again so why not World.
All clubs have to compete against the little by little rise of Sharks. Sharks may not be busiest club just yet, but the set of girls seems to keep improving, and set of regular customers probably rising. Will be interesting to see when Sharks has regular room shortages. I can't even stand a significant portion of the Sharks rooms. So if it gets too busy there and window or aircon rooms hard to get, I could be discouraged.
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Entry for girls is 100 at Oase, 80 or 95 depends on day at World, I don t know at Sharks?
A Saturday at 1 am in the night, a girl said me at Oase she only made 200 and she is pretty brunette with very beautiful natural boobs.
Girls were happy Friday at World because of messe, so more full and more work and money in this difficult time, but less fresh on Saturday, unfortunately.
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Saturday 14th
Was at OASE after a long time. Nearly a year. Was pretty much overcrowded due to some MESSE in town. Had to wait for a girl or a place to sit.
Met Alina / Adina (ro) who is a non-smoker and sits by the TV on the tables above the jacuzzi. Brown hair, nice tits, smooth skin. Standard 30 mins but what I loved was the skin flavor and the tits. Enjoyed liking and sucking her for 15 minutes before giving in to the 100 Euro CIM inclusive. Worth it.
Elena (Rus). , a repeat from last year but nevertheless quite enjoyable. In her own words, "I can be good with good people but can be very Bad when required". LOL. Fortunately she too recalled our last meeting which made it more enjoyable for both.
*name (forgot) from Ghana, was my first time ever with a black girl. She was sweet and open for everything. Very accomodating. Standard 30 minutes.
What I have noted at OASE is that if you try to pick a very good looking or a beautiful girl, she will start negatively with requests. But if you go for an ordinarily looking girl who really doesn't have much clients, she will fulfill all your wishes. I have experienced this in the last two visits. When I left around 9. 00 pm there were nearly 75+ girls and over a 100 men. Gets too crowded.
Once again, for me, OASE is the best place to be. Wish I could have met some seniors of the Forum personally.
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[QUOTE=ChicoCharlie1;1695750]
What I have noted at OASE is that if you try to pick a very good looking or a beautiful girl, she will start negatively with requests. But if you go for an ordinarily looking girl who really doesn't have much clients, she will fulfill all your wishes. I have experienced this in the last two visits.[/QUOTE]Yep That's the trend at the big5 Frankfurt FKKs. Different than other countries in Germany we have officially the one price structure. That mean you can theoretical fuck an optic 10 for the same price as a 6 or 7. For example in Thailand they have different prices for the A girls than to the be girls. So this in now unofficial quite often at Hessen FKKs that the beauties charge a higher price than average girls.
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Upselling
I used to go to Oase pretty regularly as my preferred club, but I have switched to Sharks or the clubs in NRW because I got weary of the upselling.
In reading the posts, it sounds like things have not improved for the most part.
I am not that interested in extras, so the upselling is an issue for me. Last I was there, a lot of the 9's and 10's were insisting on a minimum hour /100 Euro to go the room. That still is the case??
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[QUOTE=ChicoCharlie1;1695750]Was at OASE after a long time. Nearly a year. Was pretty much overcrowded due to some MESSE in town. Had to wait for a girl or a place to sit.
Met Alina / Adina (ro) who is a non-smoker [/QUOTE]I was there. It wasn't at all overcrowded at 10 although 5 minutes wait for keys. I left at 11 PM. I am sure things get worse as it gets late. I prefer fresh girls early in the day.
3 to 5 years ago Oase was far more overcrowded before midnight.
Your girls: Adina / Marina (Rom), Elena (Rom), and Mary (Gha) I would say.
Some of the top girls are probably only performing well for a 100 or more. I don't believe Beatrice will be that great for a 50, but by no means a bad session. Just very average lacking kissing for 50. I spent 50 first time, at least a 100 after that and she has kept getting better for me. At 50 I doubt this would be the case.
So we have to concede that some girls are maybe just not 50 girls, unless you just want plain suck and fuck. Its probably not worth their time when could cause them to miss a much better booking.
I am just trying to be realistic but biased by being a mostly 100 spender.
I guess they need to charge girls 100 to keep out girls that are just a waste of space but should charge girls less on quiet days.
In the end the girls will want us guys to cover their high entry price ASAP.
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A different perspective
[QUOTE=ChicoCharlie1;1695750]Was at OASE after a long time (Saturday). Nearly a year. Was pretty much overcrowded due to some MESSE in town. Had to wait for a girl or a place to sit ....
....What I have noted at OASE is that if you try to pick a very good looking or a beautiful girl, she will start negatively with requests. But if you go for an ordinarily looking girl who really doesn't have much clients, she will fulfill all your wishes. I have experienced this in the last two visits. When I left around 9. 00 pm there were nearly 75+ girls and over a 100 men. Gets too crowded.[/QUOTE]I know I am only repeating myself, but isn't there a coincidence that the gents experiencing limited service standards always, or at least very often, seems to visit crowded Friday or Saturday (or other Messe) evenings when the line-up is "supposed to be" at its best?
Personally I try to avoid these two evenings if I can, or at least avoid going to the room when there are waiting for rooms. This is when the F / M ratios are all wrong, the girls are stressed and in dollar / euro mood constantly looking for their prey. I would rather seek out the moments when the F / M ratios are all right, the girls are all fresh, eager to go (perhaps even a bit bored), and really need to show their best side/make an extra effort to make profits. And we the gents have all the time in the world to make the right choices. Don't be sharked. Be the Shark! ;)
Some say you "need" to be there weekend evenings to be able to see the "full" line-up. I am not so sure. Most of the socalled 9's and 10's work 3- 5 shifts a week, so why do we go and see them when the F / M ratios are all wrong? Just a thought.
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For those who might be interested, Aida / Claudia of Mainhatten is now working in Oase. Saw her this afternoon with a new hairstyle - short black bob.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;1695899]I know I am only repeating myself, but isn't there a coincidence that the gents experiencing limited service standards always, or at least very often, seems to visit crowded Friday or Saturday (or other Messe) evenings when the line-up is "supposed to be" at its best?
[/QUOTE]I write this all the time too. Although, it is less of an issue in the smaller clubs in NRW. Even on weekends, I have no issues in NRW. The tourists represent easy money for the girls, and there are many of them in Palace, Mainhattan and Oase..
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Some say you "need" to be there weekend evenings to be able to see the "full" line-up. I am not so sure. Most of the socalled 9's and 10's work 3- 5 shifts a week, so why do we go and see them when the F / M ratios are all wrong? Just a thought.[/QUOTE]I say this as well. The Romanian girls, specifically the young ones, work 6 nights a week. But there are a few girls who only work weekends. Generally these are German girls (Janine, Sharks), or girls who are permanent residents of Germany (Kelly, Puerto Rican, Sharks). In Romanian dominated clubs, if you attend two times within the same week, you will have probably seen 90-95% of the available line-up.
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[QUOTE=ChicoCharlie1;1695750]Was at OASE after a long time.
What I have noted at OASE is that if you try to pick a very good looking or a beautiful girl, she will start negatively with requests. But if you go for an ordinarily looking girl who really doesn't have much clients, she will fulfill all your wishes. I have experienced this in the last two visits. When I left around 9. 00 pm there were nearly 75+ girls and over a 100 men. Gets too crowded.
Once again, for me, OASE is the best place to be. Wish I could have met some seniors of the Forum personally.[/QUOTE]Just my opinion but I don't agree, I will never pay for a girl not pretty enough to make me dream with her beauty and not more than 5 girls attractive enough for me at the moment in Oase, maybe I m lucky but I always had services expected from pretty girls and without upselling, mostly for 1 h meetings for 100€ but even for 50€ in World.
But I agree that party days or messe days are not best days for meeting fresh girls.
Are there messe in Frankfurt this week?
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Deams
I can't wait any more to see if my long time dreams of sex fantasies come true. Only 2 nights left to my first ever FKK night. Any final advice from experts here is highly appreciated.
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[QUOTE=NewBrowser;1696017]I can't wait any more to see if my long time dreams of sex fantasies come true. Only 2 nights left to my first ever FKK night. Any final advice from experts here is highly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Speak with girls for services and rates before going to room, no hurry, don't say it's your 1st time, think with your head, avoid girls who shark too much.
Good luck, enjoy.