FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[QUOTE=Perfectionist;1695617]I will be frequenting Oase shortly with 2 friends. The plan is to take up the 4 for 6 offer to allow the 3 of us to visit twice during the trip. Does this fall within the rules of the promotion I. E can you transfer tickets or can they be solely used for the person who purchases them. Secondly, once purchased how long do the tickets remain valid for I. E is there an expiry date.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Perfectionist,

When you come into the club, you can buy the action of paying for four entries and receiving six entries. The entries are individual cards. You can distribute those six cards amongst the three of you to be used. The cards since they are not named to a person like at World or Mainhattan are transferable. So you and your friends can use them.

There is no time limit on their use. They are valid probably until the day that Oase has to close down.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;1695659]I understand what you are saying but this applies to the pics as well doesn't it?

Dufey, luv reading your reports so maybe you can add pics (lookalikes) under their name next time and we get the best of both worlds, hehe.[/QUOTE]Yes, this goes for both descriptions as well as pictures. I think there are deficiencies in both avenues of trying to identify girls that you are technically not allowed to take pictures of in the club. So I say use both. Is there much of a difference to have the forum cluttered with reports with inadequate descriptions and no names or reports that have a report with pictures or pictures of a girl that the poster thinks, to them, has the best resemblance of the girl that they are reporting on?

As for reports, I will see what I can do. It is hard looking for a look-alike picture for girls since they have that Romanian look to them.

[QUOTE=Shark16;1695899]Some say you "need" to be there weekend evenings to be able to see the "full" line-up. I am not so sure. Most of the socalled 9's and 10's work 3- 5 shifts a week, so why do we go and see them when the F / M ratios are all wrong? Just a thought.[/QUOTE]I think Syzygies has already said this, but the need to attend clubs at weekends is mainly driven by guests that have a normal work week or have family or friend commitments. Some men are not so lucky to be freelancers or pick their own work hours to allow them to go on days like Monday to Friday. The weekends are the main opportunity that they can go to clubs. Some guys are just not prepared to take annual leave to go to a club. If you are not at work since you take a day off, what do you tell your wife or friends when she / they rings and you are not at work?

Just like there are guys that can only go to clubs from Mondays to Fridays because they can give the excuse of work commitments or busy in their normal life but in the weekend they need to be with family so cannot go to clubs.

[QUOTE=Dufey;1697294]Yes, this goes for both descriptions as well as pictures. I think there are deficiencies in both avenues of trying to identify girls that you are technically not allowed to take pictures of in the club. So I say use both. Is there much of a difference to have the forum cluttered with reports with inadequate descriptions and no names or reports that have a report with pictures or pictures of a girl that the poster thinks, to them, has the best resemblance of the girl that they are reporting on?

As for reports, I will see what I can do. It is hard looking for a look-alike picture for girls since they have that Romanian look to them.[/QUOTE]The best way to identify a girl is by a unique feature such as a tattoo or typical clothing. Some girls wear a flower in their hair for such purposes. Other descriptions like hair color and height are also helpful since they narrow down the possibilities. Subjective features like tit size are not very useful unless the girl is an outlier.

[QUOTE=Akibono;1697434]The best way to identify a girl is by a unique feature such as a tattoo or typical clothing. Some girls wear a flower in their hair for such purposes. Other descriptions like hair color and height are also helpful since they narrow down the possibilities. Subjective features like tit size are not very useful unless the girl is an outlier.[/QUOTE]Tits size is more useful. A small A cannot be a C. Implants or lack of them helps. It doesn't change that often. Hair colour and style can easily change. Typical dress can easily change. Flower in hair can go away. Glasses come and go for some girls. Height helps (it stays same). Tats and piercings descriptions help a lot. Some idea of size helps.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1694967]I am a little surprised at that 200 K to 400 K number of hookers. Not disagreeing, but a little surprised, especially the higher end of the range. For example, frankfurt which probably has the most number of large FKK clubs, with each employing 200 or less girls, would imply approximately a thousand girls in fkks. I don't know how big is the RLD industry in frankfurt, but even assuming an equally large number are employed in RLD, it implies another thou. Is there a third part to this, such as party reff, AO, and call girl, etc which are another 1000 in frankfurt? Even if it is that big, are there more than 3000 or even 4000 prostitutes plying their trade in frankfurt? And to get to 400000, one has to find another 100 such centers, or clusters.

Perhaps the German hooker industry is indeed that big but I am curious how the math works to get to such number.[/QUOTE]See the attached link to the New York Post. As you may know, journalists need to check their facts before publishing.

[URL]http://nypost.com/2014/06/10/germany-experiencing-brothel-boom-but-is-prostitution-safer/[/URL]

I know speaking to some German girls that they know their brothers or male friends go to the FKK like you would go to a bar or club in New York or Boston. Going to a FKK is in some circles normalised as it is legal, safe and protected. As you can appreciate some people do not like this about prostitution and want to change the laws.

Anyway in the article from the New York Post and others you can find the 400,000 prostitutes figure and the 1 million men customers a day figure, but the New York Post suggests it is 1. 5 million mean and also the figure of how much the sex industry is to the German economy.

Some selected Quotes from the article:

"There are floors and floors of women; some wear nothing, others very little.

Men in groups can be seen wandering the corridors of mega brothels, some of which offer unlimited sex for a flat rate as little as 99 euros.

Welcome to Germany, where the brothel business is booming and sex is cheap.

More than 400,000 women work in German brothels, some so big they spill over several levels. Described as sex supermarkets, johns are lured with the promise of luxurious surroundings, unlimited alcohol and sex.

Since the Prostitution Act was introduced in 2002, Germany's sex industry has boomed, making it a magnet for tourists. The Act was designed to improve conditions for prostitutes and to make it possible for them to get health insurance and social security while ensuring a safe workplace. ".

"Roberts found the industry generates around $20 billion every year, with an estimated 1. 5 million German men using the services of a sex worker every day. Prostitutes all work freelance — instead of being paid a salary, they rent rooms from brothel owners who sometimes still don't question their health or see proof of insurance. ".

"One brothel owner told me it can be hard to make money, and for every woman unwilling to perform something risky (such as not insisting on the man using a condom) there's another willing to try it," he said. ".

"the study tagging 90 percent of the country's sex workers as having been forced into prostitution, and she demanded the government get tougher on the industry. ".

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1694967]I am a little surprised at that 200 K to 400 K number of hookers. Not disagreeing, but a little surprised, especially the higher end of the range. For example, frankfurt which probably has the most number of large FKK clubs, with each employing 200 or less girls, would imply approximately a thousand girls in fkks. I don't know how big is the RLD industry in frankfurt, but even assuming an equally large number are employed in RLD, it implies another thou. Is there a third part to this, such as party reff, AO, and call girl, etc which are another 1000 in frankfurt? Even if it is that big, are there more than 3000 or even 4000 prostitutes plying their trade in frankfurt? And to get to 400000, one has to find another 100 such centers, or clusters.

Perhaps the German hooker industry is indeed that big but I am curious how the math works to get to such number.[/QUOTE]At first, the number surprised me too, but I guess it makes sense. Many WGs are seasonal so they travel to Germany several times a year. Some WGs may only work less than 15 days out of the year. Usually these are German residents who probably have regular jobs during the week, so they may work weekends or when they have annual leave (the average Western European gets a lot more holiday than say an American).

Syzygies Saturday night Oase LU seems to be around 90-100 WGs. Then he probably accounts for another 20-30 WGs on holiday. So over the course of a year, I suspect Oase employs more than 200 girls. What about a girl who auditions Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, but then decides to quit? Even a regular like Syzygies may never see her. What about the influx of 50 girls that come during a major Messe? Then there are smaller FKKs that nobody reports on. Even in the Hessen area, we have: Atlanta, Royal, Bahama, Rom, Feigenblatt etc.

Major RLDs found within a major city center are usually a couple city of blocks. And each building will have multiple floors. So you could be talking about a couple hundred or thousand WGs at any one time. Outside of the city centers--usually near major factories--there will be an ErosCenter that employ 50 girls at a time. These places are for men who may not have the time and / or money to attend FKKs. For example, a married German man can get a 20 minute quickie for 30 EUR on his lunch break or on the way home from work.

German paid sex industry is also littered with escort agencies. These places only have five girls at any one time, but probably have a roster of 30-40 WG's per year. For example a Polish or Czech MILF, might travel to Germany one week out of the month to work, and that income will sustain her for the remaining three weeks in her home country. There are also "private" independent girls who run their business out of their own flat. These girls might advertise on the "buy me" site.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;1697687]At first, the number surprised me too, but I guess it makes sense. Many WGs are seasonal so they travel to Germany several times a year. Some WGs may only work less than 15 days out of the year. Usually these are German residents who probably have regular jobs during the week, so they may work weekends or when they have annual leave (the average Western European gets a lot more holiday than say an American).[/QUOTE]That is right. You get a lot of free lance German girls, but also Eastern Europeans from Czech Republic, Slovakia, Baltic states, Hungarians, etc.

Pussylicker mentions it often that he has a good run at encountering the amateur non professional German girls in his club visits then he never sees them again. As a regular, sometimes you see these free lancer girls more often but once again they are not full timers. They work the weekends like say the Sharks girls Janine de does and Kelly Puerto Rico does.

I may have mentioned this before, this is similar to the Italian industry where in say Milano when you go to certain clubs, you will find girls looking for a man to fuck for money. These girls are not professionals, but actually girls looking for a good time, and wanting to make some money too. They would be in low paying jobs and to make ends meet or to pay for a car or holiday they do some extra escort work on the side with a man willing to pay several hundreds of euros for a one night fling. This is normal to see in Milano. I know when clubbing in Milano, the Milanese girls they sometimes mention in disgust when they see these other Italian girls are in clubs sucking up to rich older men to get them to pay for them. Some men prefer these girls to the Romanians, Africans and Latinas that work the streets of Milano.

So getting back to the Germans, many Germans are lowly paid, there were recent articles about the number of lowly paid Germans is increasing than the number before the financial crisis. However, there have always been many Germans, predominately female like in most westernised countries, that perform low paid work. This generic German girl can be earning like less than 1000 euro a month. She pays 500 euro a month for her apartment then the rest she has to cover her services and utilities and sustenance. If she wants something more than that she is going to be short unless she has a boyfriend or has help from her family or from the State in benefits since she has children.

So she has an avenue of working in a FKK since it is fairly easy to enter the market. No need to rent an apartment in the RLD to work from or advertise her services if she is to work from home. Maybe she has an interview at the club she applies for (where some girls fuck the manager as their interview), but hey to these girls, that man is just another man to fuck. So it is easy entry into work in a FKK. As said before, the FKKs have that image of legality, safety and anonymity that gives the work environment a normalcy that men will go to a club to eat, relax and fuck just like some people go to a bar for a drink and a meal and some light conversation with their friends.

The German girls or Eastern European girl may only work a few weeks a year. The local German girl will work the weekends like Janine de does at Sharks or the Lativan girl will come over to Germany to work for a few weeks or one week a month and uses as McAdonis says the cash to fund the other 3 weeks of the month. Some girls commute to work from their home countries to work some weeks on and off using the FKK club's dormitory as their hotel. Once again the ease of entry into the job makes this possible for the girl compared to say working in a country where you have to rent an apartment and advertise discreetly your services like in Ireland or UK.

I would hate for this model to be ruined. The EU countries that have legalised brothels are Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Hungary and Greece. We do not want the Norwegian, Iceland or Swedish model of where it is illegal to buy sex.

Does this topic.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1697708&viewfull=1#post1697708.[/URL]

Slot in here?

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3309-German-FKK-Clubs-Lounge-and-chat-area[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dufey;1697708]That is right. You get a lot of free lance German girls, but also Eastern Europeans from Czech Republic, Slovakia, Baltic states, Hungarians, etc.

[/QUOTE]Very correct, Dufey. One may or may not be surprised in discussion with Club girls in various lands- if you have a longer term rapport with them- to find that many operate on a shuttle system as you describe enjoying both the high earnings possible in FKK and Clubland while maintain their base and lower costs in their home country. The low cost airlines thrive on their regular business.

Also perhaps surprising or not is that an early goal is to buy one or more apartments or houses at "home", then a car and then a small business. Many don't make it and spend their money on other things less tangible. Many do, and the number of one or multiple home / apartment owners working in FKK clubs are significant. All the more so, among the more popular girls.

As the saying goes "Club Girls never lie", -cough, cough- but in these cases guests who are quite familiar with the girls home countries and cities can often, if they are interested, sort out the true stories from the less than truthful. Many of the Girls have a similar ability when talking with the Club Guests.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1697450]Tits size is more useful. A small A cannot be a C. Implants or lack of them helps. It doesn't change that often. Hair colour and style can easily change. Typical dress can easily change. Flower in hair can go away. Glasses come and go for some girls. Height helps (it stays same). Tats and piercings descriptions help a lot. Some idea of size helps.[/QUOTE]Tits and height are way too subjective and not specific enough. In most clubs there will be 3-5 girls that match the description. Besides, we are usually looking for current info. Descriptions 2-3 months our can be useless. In clubs like Goldentime, the girls are covered. So, it would be hard to deduce tit size. Most girls tend to wear the same outfits.

Hi guys,

Did you tried VIP Service which is explained on web site of Oase?

As you know there is a special entrance of "VIP" in the garden of Oase near car park.

[QUOTE=Akibono;1697842]Tits and height are way too subjective and not specific enough. In most clubs there will be 3-5 girls that match the description. Besides, we are usually looking for current info. Descriptions 2-3 months our can be useless. In clubs like Goldentime, the girls are covered. So, it would be hard to deduce tit size. Most girls tend to wear the same outfits.[/QUOTE]Syz attends Hessen clubs, so tits are exposed compared to girls you find at the NRW with the outfits covering the tits. Even if covered, if the girl has significant sized tits, it should be pretty obvious. Girls wear platform shoes so you'd have to take that into consideration regarding height. Both information are objective as they are describing sizing. It's that they can be incorrectly observed, and the description could be off is the problem.

This is my 1st time at Oase, its a general report without many details.

Visit was 1st week of March, on Friday.

I arrived around 5 PM and stayed until 3 AM.

Overall: Best club I have visited, lots of cute girls and hot bodies, services is not so good though for 30 min.

1st session was not good, girl was hot, 25-30 yrs old, she said half Mongolian half Ukraine, but in room she was offering so many extras and she tried to lie about time. Said it was past 30 min because she wanted 150 Euros (100 HR+ 50 Extra) but I was sure it was just 20-25 min max, so I paid 100 only, will not repeat.

Had 1 hour session with Hungarian girl sitting on the chair between bar and main area, she was busy but good service and friendly, I can't remember her name.

I had also session with Kim, petite girl with short hair and lots of tattoo, 30 min but no DFK. Very sexy and worth $$.

Question:

I've seen girls doing Blow job on the sofa on public area. Is it free with the session? Or is it for extra money?

[QUOTE=Akibono;1697842]Tits and height are way too subjective and not specific enough. In most clubs there will be 3-5 girls that match the description. Besides, we are usually looking for current info. Descriptions 2-3 months our can be useless. In clubs like Goldentime, the girls are covered. So, it would be hard to deduce tit size. Most girls tend to wear the same outfits.[/QUOTE]I was thinking more of tits and height to help to distinguish between girls with the same name when reporting on girls with name specified.

Alternatively used in conjunction with other characteristics. Obviously tit size is not a good sole identifier of a girl. However at Oase Implants can narrow down field to 10 to 15 girls. Further characteristics could quickly bring it down to very few. In the end you need to ask the girl's name.

Its not hard to identify Shelly at 182 cm without heels, not a black girl. LOL