FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[QUOTE=Ortos;1598351]
1) over the past two years I keep reading about the high upsell at Oase and that new talent does not deliver in the room, but each time I visit I find matters to be very much the opposite;.

2) that you should not reject going with some of the extensive (and steadily fluctuating) talent at Oase these days (unless the flow of these girls has ended for the summer recess).
[/QUOTE]I don't claim that Oase got worse in terms of increased upsell. I think there was always some level there. I don't say its high, but belongs with certain girls and not all of them. I reserve "high" for Palace of course. I am still very comfortable at Oase. I do claim World has the least upsell of all these local clubs, reason unknown. Every club seems to have some sharky girls too, to be avoided.

The "downfall" of Oase was always exaggerated in my mind, although customer levels were badly affected more than anything else. I am never going to overreact to a couple of bad experiences. Early on at Sharks, I only had one new regular girl, but that kept me in good stead till I managed to find some other pretty good girls worth repeating. So, some bad or mediocre experiences did not affect my outlook much. You just move on and forget.

The line up fluctuates as does any club and my favourites mostly disappeared in late 2013 to make matters worse. So I go into a favourite building phase, although Carla / Cindy (returning from Sharks) is naturally on there and I am happy with Jennifer. If Diana (from World) arrives in due course even better. I take the point that there are plenty of new pretty girls, to be tried carefully.

Jennifer "loves" to do CIM. LOL. A bit of light upsell. I don't care as she is pretty good at other things.

Really I don't care much about the majority of the girls in a club whether they have silicones or not, or be fat or not, or be sharks with upsell. What matters to me is the Quality of the top 5 to 10 girls to my taste. If I can a good number of great girls so some of them are always there, or I attend when I know they are there, then all will be super. I don't need to fuck endless new girls. I prefer repeat offending with very reliable girls mostly, so my percentage of testing new girls is usually low.

Some guys go to a club and say the place is shit as 50% of the girls were buffaloes, or 50% upsell, or some problem with the food. Who cares! What about the best set of girls? How good were they? The buffaloes can be virtually invisible to me. I don't even bother with most of them for trying to do a line up list.

So bear if mind if I make any negative comment about something other than the best few girls, its mostly not a big deal to me and should be thought of as some minor whinge, unless the rooms were intolerably unusable.

I go to Oase to fuck beautiful, fun, GFE, and talented girls (as many of the qualities as possible). Only things that interfere with this purpose really matter. Well not quite true. I like some level of peace, and relaxation. This is very easily achieved at Oase.

[QUOTE=Ortos;1597491]I wonder on what you base your statement that "overall there is significantly more upsell...at Oase?" Because, by your own accounts, you hardly visit Oase anymore, maybe once or twice in the past several months (?). I ask, because I was there just a couple of weeks back and I tried lots and lots of the very good looking "new" talent that filled out the line-ups I encountered there on several different nights: Hardly got any upsell or lack-lustre service at all, and this from girls that were newly arrived at the club. Mind you, I did also reject several "new" girls as well because I could "sniff out" bad signs (or not overly positive vibes) from them.

But I don't see the situation at Oase as any different from any of the other Hessen Clubs (okay, Palace is an exceptional place in this regard): Many girls at Oase were also working at other clubs as well including Sharks. So the girls all shift around from club to club. Whilst, yes there are club cultures that do come into play, I don't know if a newly arrived girl (having worked in another club or new to the business) would be able to absorb any club culture in just a few days. Plus there is the basic "way to make good money" culture which is: If I give guys good service they will come back for more and spread my good reputation around the club.

In my more limited visits to Sharks, I've had some good sessions, but also a few lack-lustre ones and one or two attempts at upsell as well. I think this can / does happen at any club, even in the NRW: Look at that guy who posted last week about paying 450 e for a threesome session at one of the Koln or Dusseldorf clubs (I forget which one exactly, Samya maybe). So it can happen anywhere.

Really, when I was in Frankfurt during June, I went to Oase, Sharks and World with a fully open mind and seeking enthusiastically to engage good service girls at all these three clubs. My efforts were thwarted at World due to the bad line-ups on two different days (a Tues and Saturday) and at Sharks also I was let down by the line-up on a weekday. But any day I went to Oase, be it a weekend or weekday, I was blown-away in a positive manner by the line-up and great service levels I was able to find inside the Zimmer. I did take my time, however, to select carefully the session partners and I had good "radar" and a bit of luck. But for me, a few weeks ago at least, Oase delivered better club experiences than any of the other two clubs. But as we all know: things can change up and down fast.

So I would urge you, if you do revisit Oase in the near future, not to reject out of hand trying new girls who pass your physical looks test. Just make sure you don't have another "Raissa moment" and make sure she has the personality / chemistry / good vibes (whatever you want to call it) for a successful session.[/QUOTE]To help your thinking, I read two times your post and finally I hardly see what is a good looking lineup for you and more what could be a good service in room. "I wonder on what you base your statement".

Today was my first time at Oase. I had intended to spend my day at World, but got escorted from the premises by the Polizei. More of that (short) story on the World forum.

I got to Oase at 2. 30 and was struck by three things:

1. the girls looked great.

2. the club was very cramped.

3. the owners must have got a special deal on mirrors.

It seems to me that Oase is a great place to be in good weather, but might be very claustrophobic if the outside space is not an option. I like things pretty easy going. Those wanting a party atmosphere would probably thrive in the atmosphere.

I felt a bit lost when I got into the club. It's hard to go wrong at Artemis (my usual club) as its a big square building on three floors. Oase, on the other hand, seemed like a sprawl of narrow corridors. That said, by the end of my visit, I'd pretty much figured it out.

I collected my robe, sandals, towel and figured out the lockers. The towels, sandals and robes seemed pretty new, which was a nice sign. The premises was also in good order. It all created a nice impression about the club. I didn't like the fact that you have to ask for towels, but I can understand it. I must get through twenty or so in a typical day at Artemis.

My initial impression of the girls began to change over the course of my visit (I left at about 8.30). Maybe the best girls got booked up, but I began to struggle to make a selection as the day went on. On the upside, from my point of view, there were plenty of slim girls, and not too much silicon or ink.

First trip to the room was with Brianna. From Romania. I loved her look. Dark hair, petite, slim, very pert tits, and a great ass. She wore a tiny schoolgirl type skirt. She had a sweet nature. We went to one of the (very) small rooms near the jacuzzi. The room size didn't bother me, although the bed needed to be bigger. I'm 191 cm and some part or other of me was hanging off the bed for large parts of the session. No, not my cock. The room was covered in mirrors, which was great. I enjoyed my time was Brianna, but I would probably not repeat. I could look at her for hours, but she doesn't really seem to enjoy what she does. Not with me, anyway. A reasonable start.

I showered and then hung out by the pool for a while. The sun was out and it was a great way of checking out all the girls. I got a few approaches, but no undue pressure.

Second girl of the day was (I think) Yasmin. From Romania. Tall, very slim, big glasses and a panther tattoo on her abdomen. I asked her to take us to a cooler room, which she did. She started off with a nice body-to-body massage, which I would have liked to have lasted longer. A nice blowjob followed by sex in a few positions. We then chatted for a while. A nice session, which I would be tempted to repeat. Not quite my taste from a looks point of view, but we got on well.

After a bit more time relaxing, it was time for the grill. Some problem or other meant that it took a while for things to get going and there was quite a queue. The food was ok. Whilst in the queue, I got chatting to a very pretty black girl, with amazing tits, who was nice to talk with. A definite candidate for later, I thought, until she wandered off and I saw her ass. Sometimes, I am disappointed by my shallowness.

I spent some time in the sauna, which is also nicely located to girl watch, showered and decided to check out the inside in the bar. Before I even got there I was approached by Anna (from Romania. Where else?) who was perched on one of the stalls near as you head back towards reception. I knew immediately that I would take her to the room. She was very friendly, looked great and fit my profile well. Back in one of the jacuzzi rooms, but this time the air conditioning was much more successful. She was just as friendly in the room and we finished with CIM. A great session, and I would definitely repeat.

A couple of other observations from the day. I got myself very confused in the main indoor area. Mirrors everywhere meant that I couldn't really figure out in the semi-darkness where the room ended. I pictured myself walking smack into one of the mirrors, so didn't spend much time in there. Secondly, those ridiculous heels that the girls wear don't work at Oase. The paths in the outdoor area are paved with brick and there are a few slopes around. I amused myself for a while sitting on one of the big loungers in the conservatory watching the girls teetering precariously along the garden paths. In any case, I always find myself drawn to the barefoot girls.

So, overall, I enjoyed my afternoon at Oase. The facilities are good, in great condition, and there were a lot of girls. The club was very busy, which is not to my taste, but had a nice, friendly vibe. There was a good choice of girls, but I feel that I missed out on a few that I saw early on. As I left, I resolved to keep to my original Saturday schedule and visit again. However, it's not going to become a regular haunt, so I am now feeling that I might be better off giving World another go, just to add to my experiences.

Frotzy. Good report. Thanks.

Speaking of towels and robes, I think the lady at the front desk of Sharks is the worst. She simply refuses to give a second robe, if you don't like your first robe. Also, most of the robes at Sharks have the bands broken, they seem like they are quite old. But she refuses to give a better, functioning robe. At Oase you can always ask for another robe.

One time at Sharks, my locker key did not seem to work initially. I went upto the front desk and asked if she could give me another locker. She was so upset, told me no way. I said what am I supposed to do, no locker? She came in a huff, and made it work somehow, and afterwards the key did work for me too, but come on, she had so much attitude, as if I requested a 50% discount in my club entry fee.

Hi fellow enthusiasts!

I have recently come back from Oase and can confirm I had a great time. I put that down to quite simply one particular Columbian lady! I can honestly say if the club consisted of her alone I would be a very happy man! Quite simply she has the best ass I have ever cast my eyes on. I have never seen such a perfect curvy ass that is so firm. And to top it off she has a face like Shakira with a beautiful smile and amazing perfectly shaped large breasts. Did I tell you she had a great ass!

I am hooked!

Real gem and pure GFE!

[QUOTE=Perfectionist;1599818]Hi fellow enthusiasts!

I have recently come back from Oase and can confirm I had a great time. I put that down to quite simply one particular Columbian lady! I can honestly say if the club consisted of her alone I would be a very happy man! Quite simply she has the best ass I have ever cast my eyes on. I have never seen such a perfect curvy ass that is so firm. And to top it off she has a face like Shakira with a beautiful smile and amazing perfectly shaped large breasts. Did I tell you she had a great ass!

I am hooked![/QUOTE]Hi,

I am planning to be there soon. Will you remember the name of the girl and some more description.

Cheers

I compare Oase today with Oase of yesteryear. There is considerable more upsell and extra shit going on now than for example 2-3 years ago. Thinking back last 12 years or so, I can't recall a girl pricing extra on other things than CIM and Anal until about 12-14 months ago. Now, lets take a look at my last vist which was Friday and Saturday just over a week ago:

Briana: Could not shut up about "Stay one hour. Yadayada". Told her if she would keep me interested beyond half hour, I would stay longer. The session was below average and I left the room at 28th minute and paid her 50. She was sulking and bitching about it. Ok, not all that bad, at least I came. Not really upselling or extra charging, just annoying girl who gives below average service.

Angie: Nice enough session. As my hand was wandering around her pussy she goes "fingering is 50 euro extra". I understand when girls do not want it and I respect that, but it should not be extra. Felling slightly annoyed at this point, but rolled with it and had a nice session.

Don't remember name: Thin, wears some kind of top, nice smile, baby stretchmarks. As I encourage her to go a bit deeper during the BBBJ, she looks up and goes "deep blow job is extra". WTF! I told her I was leaving and I aborted the session.

Alice or Alicia: Nice looking girl next door looks. Session was going fine, nice kissing etc. Fake tits that look and feel pretty real. Again I felt the BBBJ was a bit shallow and ask her to put her tounge out and go a bit deeper. She goes "that is 50 extra". At this point I was getting pissed off and I scolded her for about 10 minutes which had us both pissed off, going into arguments about what is extra and not and then we aborted the session. (both aborted sessions I paid the 50 since we were already some 15-20 minutes into the sessions).

Buddy of mine (senior member who has more visits than most of us on this board) had one of his sessions ask for extra for 69. "I guess we won't be doing that then" was his response.

Sure, I had some good sessions also and I will keep visiting this club since the lineup is good, I like the garden, and the food situation has been fixed. This is however not the first time I notice this trend at Oase which I saw at Palace many years ago and we are getting close to a point where I will give up on them. I am alternating more with World and Sharks now where I have not had these same issues. This started about a year ago, perhaps a bit more. The above examples are from Friday and Saturday last week, but I have number of other similar situations from the last 12-14 months. Many of us don't care for extensive pre-session interviews and tryouts and that has served just fine in the past in Oase, but not any longer. I am lazy, I just want a good service without having to negotiate it like it used to be. There are certainly ways to roll with the punches and make a good situation out of bad hooker business ethics, but my mood is just not geared for that any longer and it annoyes the hell out of me that my favorite club where I have never had these "extras" situations for the 12+ years I have been visiting Oase.

There are still some awesome girls at Oase. Couple of new ones I tried last week and did not dissapoint: Sina, German. Maya, Romanian.

Ortos: You are quite diligent in your selection of girls, more so I think than most of us, and I think that may explain why these things do not affect you until there is an overwhelming number of girls behaving badly. If I remember right, you had patience with Palace much longer than most of us.

[QUOTE=Henio;1600256]I compare Oase today with Oase of yesteryear. There is considerable more upsell and extra shit going on now than for example 2-3 years ago. Thinking back last 12 years or so, I can't recall a girl pricing extra on other things than CIM and Anal until about 12-14 months ago. Now, lets take a look at my last vist which was Friday and Saturday just over a week ago:
[/QUOTE]My esteemed colleague and travelling companion from last weeks Hesse expedition is 100% correct, there is indeed more upsell at today's Oase than the Oase of yesteryear. But for me, an old man who will never come in 30 minutes, hell, sometimes it takes me 30 minutes to get it up, this upsell was not a problem, I did find the workaround and had nothing but superb sessions with some sweet young things, all of whom exhibited some form of upsell. For me it is kein problem, I only get over to the FKK's three-five times year and do not have access to better more service oriented markets like those in Asia that some of my friends have access to regularly.

I had a fantastic three day jaunt with my old buddies Chivaz and Dedalus- FKK runs are always sweeter and more fun with those guys to hang with. First and second days were spent at a sweltering hot but very happening and comfortable Oase. For me, the lineup was superb and quite extensive, I made a small dent in my to-do list repeating with only one prior shag, the lovely, lithe, and vivacious teen princess Laura- the blonde who arrived last summer and worked at Sharks for a few weeks. She's not the most abandoned wild giurrl, but she sure can take direction. She gets sweeter and sexier each time we meet.

Later, I met another hottie, Alice- a curvy girl-next door type with very well done saline implants (who argued with my pal- no judgement here) causing my buddy Mr New Jersey to dub her "best tits in the house. She really got into the sex, allowing, no encouraging all- portal digital access and more. She had mentioned that for GFE sex "an hour is better" and of course that was what I did, after informing her that this is my standard but I reserve the right to leave at 30 minutes if the feeling wasn't right. She was fine with that and the feeling was quite right, I left her feeling plumb tuckered out and ready to repeat. Her BJ was deep throat, ball sucking, taint-licking face pumping variety which continued into 69. As much as I wanted, even between positions.

The second day, Saturday, of course had to begin again with Laura my baby for an hour. This was followed by a fantastic tender hour with a blonde gazelle named Maria- blonde pony tail pulled back tightly and a lissome ballerina body with large areolae on medium ever so saggy chebs, she looked like a cold ice princess but she was a sweetie pie. She also asked me what I like in "the room" and I told romantic kissing and oral preceeding multi-position sex. Maria too opined that 1 hour is better for this type of session and I agreed. Maria isn't nearly as wild and crazy as Alice was, but it was a total GFE with great prolonged tender and varied BJ- no hands much of the time. Maria has got a world class Popo which I played with for much of the hour.

It was the hottest day of the year so far and the pool was being used extensively by giggly nubile babes- paradise. The barbecue was tasty and abundant, you could till get wursts and some bread at 2:30 AM. Amazingly, if you wanted to cool off you could go inside where the AC was functional and effective, not like the Oase of old where the entire inside became an auxilliary sauna on hot days. My final session of that day was with the girl they call "Selena Gomez"- a look-alike of the pop star who also resembles the famous Czech Andrea of years past for you old-timers. I spotted her in the dance pole room and beckoned her to sit with me on my kino couch. I like the open kino since I can sit and relax and hunt in two rooms at once LOL. Her name was Laura too and we had a nice enticing interview on the couch. Laura / Selena also informed me that what I want would need an hour, I acceded and what followed was maybe my best session in a while. Kissing was lips only but affectionate and as much as I wanted, continuing during various coital positions. When I got a glimmer of a response during DATY and 69, I persisted and was rewarded with a shuddering face soaking ograsm on her part- I must give credit for this to Dedalus' having played for me on his handy the Saturday night live classic comedy bit "Colonel Angus"- say it fast and you'll know what I mean. The sex was incredible, she relished all positions, maintained a full body contact and positioned for fullest penetration-I think she was horny LOL, she really got me going since I can be lazy on my third session of the day. I can't wait to do her again.

We departed at 4 AM .

So yeah, there is indeed widespread upsell currently at Oase, but if you don't let it get to you, and if you are an hour man like myself, this is no impediment to full enjoyment and even mind-blowing sex.

Beffen- slow and steady wins the race.

[QUOTE=Beffen1;1600297]So yeah, there is indeed widespread upsell currently at Oase, but if you don't let it get to you, and if you are an hour man like myself, this is no impediment to full enjoyment and even mind-blowing sex.

.[/QUOTE]An hour is always acceptable as long as the girl keeps up her level of service. If they start complaining about their pussy hurting, sore jaw and the like at the 15 minute mark, you know it won't get any better in the second half hour.

And how many here have had a starfish, called the session quits and simply grabbed the first available girl? Girls asking for an hour is one thing, not being able to get fucked for an hour straight is another.

[QUOTE=Beffen1;1600297]
So yeah, there is indeed widespread upsell currently at Oase, but if you don't let it get to you, and if you are an hour man like myself, this is no impediment to full enjoyment and even mind-blowing sex.
[/QUOTE]Correct, and that was the case with Palace as well but how is that today?

I almost always go for an hour when the service is good, but I refuse to be blackmailed into it.

I like Oase, I am visiting there again next week and I will probably continue to drop by occasionally, but it will not hold its untouchable status for me and I may give it a skip every now and then and opt for World and Sharks instead. I just hope they get their act together and give the girls better "guidelines". The club is slipping. Some adjustments have been made to get it back on course, facilities are better, but there is need for mgmt intervention on the service levels.

The only reason to visit Oase nowadays is for well-known good grls, not the upselling newbees.

Anybody knows if Judith (HU) or Krina (RO) are still there?

[QUOTE=Henio;1600343]Correct, and that was the case with Palace as well but how is that today?

I almost always go for an hour when the service is good, but I refuse to be blackmailed into it.

I like Oase, I am visiting there again next week and I will probably continue to drop by occasionally, but it will not hold its untouchable status for me and I may give it a skip every now and then and opt for World and Sharks instead. I just hope they get their act together and give the girls better "guidelines". The club is slipping. Some adjustments have been made to get it back on course, facilities are better, but there is need for mgmt intervention on the service levels.[/QUOTE]Didn't you see the suggestion box on the wall next to the keys? Maybe when Mauro gets the paper towel inventory situation solved, he'll address the service levels. Did you know the girls are only allowed to use 5 sheaves of paper towel to clean up a tittie jizz? I think Oase is having growing pains, not really slipping.

Next week. , I am jealous.

I dunno about World, I think this is not their summer- repeated raids, nothing but dismal thin lineups and missing stars, can this get better in August? Me thinks not. Hell, even Gold Marie is working the bar!!

[QUOTE=Maxime;1600363]The only reason to visit Oase nowadays is for well-known good grls, not the upselling newbees.

Anybody knows if Judith (HU) or Krina (RO) are still there?[/QUOTE]Krina is there and looking good (lost some wait compared to last year).

For the rest I agree about more upsel than a couple of years ago and I can't see that becoming less anytime soon. Unlike some generous sponsors, I only stay for an hour if it is very good (in Hessen at least).

[QUOTE=Maxime;1600363]The only reason to visit Oase nowadays is for well-known good grls, not the upselling newbees.

Anybody knows if Judith (HU) or Krina (RO) are still there?[/QUOTE]Judith (Hu) has not been at Oase for a long time now. It's been reported from reliable sources that she's retired now.