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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1621047]Daria was at Oase on Friday and Saturday, but not yesterday, Sunday.[/QUOTE]Hi TankTank123,
Are you 100% sure about Daria (ex shark, curly blond girl, who gives perfect gf6) was at oase?
Do you know her name there?
Can you tell me, when you see her again?
(I'm talking about the Daria, from Romanian, blond hair, middle tall, worked for about 2 years at shark, and before Atlantik, and Spain).
[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;1627174]Hi guys,
Bad news for me, today I went to an urologist.
I got herpes! On my penis.
Since I wasn't in a FKK for 5 weeks, and I got this herpes 1 day after I visited Oase.
I'm pretty sure, its must be Anastacia or Angie.
Since I didn't had BJ with Angie, so it must be from Anastacia.
So take care.
BTW, I'm only has like 10 x FKK club experience, does herpes does alot around?
I mean I like to kiss, so it must be dangerous to have real kisses with the girls?
Does anyone also had herpes from a girl?
Or anything else? I have to be careful?[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about this.
Its in 20% of population and has to be double that with prostitutes.
I asked here about who has gotten herpes and zero people responded. Seems totally unbelievable that majority of monger don't have it.
I am sure many mongers have it and choose not to discuss it.
Also, seems like Oases testing policy needs to be more thorough.
Most Oase girls who are willing to go outside the club will start quoting rates at 1,000 euro per day. I believe this must be in the FKK-girl handbook because they all start with this same number.
If you know the girl well and she is comfortable with you, negotiating 700/800 Euro per day isn't hard with most girls. Much depends on what you're doing during your time together. If you're going on vacation together and you want them as a vacation buddy and are just doing one pop before bedtime every night, you should be able to negotiate a lower rate too. For example, one girl who was in high demand quoted me 600 Euros /24 hours for a 3-4 trip.
But, keep in mind that it is easier to get a girl outside the club for a lower rate when you're taking them out of the club on slow days as compared to busier days like Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. The girls also have to consider how much they are giving up (that is, what they would have made in the club if they had not gone out with you).
But as I've said before, you should only do this with girls you already know well. I mean, you don't want to be stuck with a girl for three days who you end up not getting along well with.
I have heard 600 Euros / night quoted many times to locals. Me, I'm a frequent tourist visitor but not a local resident. I probably overpay but at the same time, I am usually particular about who I want to take out of the clubs with me, so I probably err a bit on the liberal side when I make offers to my girls.
Sometimes, I need to take days off from the club during long trips to recuperate before returning to club recreation activities. During this down time, I would rather have a cute little buddy with me. In one case, I paid a girl 300 Euros / 24 hours just to hang out with me (no sex). After 3 very enjoyable days with her and no sex, I was ready to return to the clubs again for another final 4 days in a row.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1627363]Most Oase girls who are willing to go outside the club will start quoting rates at 1,000 euro per day. I believe this must be in the FKK-girl handbook because they all start with this same number.
If you know the girl well and she is comfortable with you, negotiating 700/800 Euro per day isn't hard with most girls. Much depends on what you're doing during your time together. If you're going on vacation together and you want them as a vacation buddy and are just doing one pop before bedtime every night, you should be able to negotiate a lower rate too. For example, one girl who was in high demand quoted me 600 Euros /24 hours for a 3-4 trip.
But, keep in mind that it is easier to get a girl outside the club for a lower rate when you're taking them out of the club on slow days as compared to busier days like Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. The girls also have to consider how much they are giving up (that is, what they would have made in the club if they had not gone out with you)..[/QUOTE]I didn't have even a faintest of idea that so many possibilities were actually possible in terms of taking the girl out of the club, around 300-400 Euros sure I could have been able to afford. But like you say, do they also come out as a companion / buddy (no sex or maybe just one pop in the night) just to give company to you? For 300-400 Euros? I would have not mind that, that is what I was looking for, and maybe I could have fucked her when I wanted, coming back to the club. Or maybe just one pop outside the club. But what do you think of the offer that she made me which was like, 200 Euros per Hour and you choose the slot how much time do you want? I could not decide on it because, I was thinking how much and what all am I going to be able to do with this timeline bomb ticking. And if it is just having sex with her, what is wrong doing it here in the club. Hence Passed.
Once a long time back, Mimi / Roberta, a Sharky type with inconsistent service was very keen to go home with me, her idea. No thanks. Did not even dream of discussing the price. You sense the attempted rip-off coming for sure.
Nice guy sucker coming up.
Nice Palace girls looking for somewhere to stay the night, no charge, no problem. That is different. I lived very close by.
[QUOTE=Mojoman74;1627307]PokerWiesBaden,
You have my sympathy and I hope you don't have a better half you need to tell about this. Being a married man this is my worst fear and sometimes I wonder why I do this. Sometimes I say to myself that I will quit and then I start fantasizing and start thinking of some of the optificks I have had and I can't get to a FKK fast enough.
Anyone else who have had moral headaches like this?[/QUOTE]Completely understand Mojoman. I have exactly the same feelings and I'm sure many others do too. Most people who are married have this cycle. Desire, preparation, acting out (FKK or other) then total guilt, telling yourself never again. Until the desire returns and it all starts again. It is a recognised cycle of sexual addiction. If you cannot break it at the desire stage and you move on to preparation then you are trapped and will go again round the cycle. The acting out bit is often too enjoyable to not repeat. Until this happens. I feel v sorry for Poker. But it is the risk all mongers run. Other types of STI (Chlamydia and Gon) can be treated with anti biotic Zithromax. Which it is possible to buy on the internet or even over the counter in some countries. But herpes is not treatable.
Poker will need to tell Mrs P if HE has one. She will get it if they have sexual relations in future.
I know a number of guys on ISG who have become friends who are now single through mongering. I am in that cycle too so I'm not being holy here. I'd like to get off, and have tried unsuccessfully.
I hadn't been to a FKK until a year ago. Mongered all over the world. The initial thrill of so many naked women was amazing and I've posted about my experiences in several FKK clubs in Berlin and Frankfurt. The real problem in FKK clubs is that BBBJ is standard. So when you think that the girl is only getting €50 for 30 minutes. To do well in a day she needs at least 6 cocks she will suck. It means if you are no. 7 she is sharing you with the previous 6 cocks! As a result, I very rarely ever accept a BBBJ in a FKK club. Just not worth the risk. Neither is DATY. Kissing will not give you genital herpes. You can get oral herpes (coldsores) but you can get them off anyone you kiss. Full sex with condom is safer than BBBJ as no body fluid is being passed.
Sorry for the apparently negative report. Just wanted Mojoman to know that HE is not alone in his feelings. I'm still trying to give this up. For one reason. Whilst the girls are lovely and my little soldier has needs, so does my brain. And the constant lying, covering up, excuses and fear of being caught is starting to make me think I should pay more attention to the needs of my brain to be relaxed than to my cock. Maybe I'm just getting too old for this. But the guilt and the risk Poker has highlighted is starting to be too much.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1627509]Completely understand Mojoman. I have exactly the same feelings and I'm sure many others do too. Most people who are married have this cycle. Desire, preparation, acting out (FKK or other) then total guilt, telling yourself never again. Until the desire returns and it all starts again. It is a recognised cycle of sexual addiction. If you cannot break it at the desire stage and you move on to preparation then you are trapped and will go again round the cycle. The acting out bit is often too enjoyable to not repeat. Until this happens. I feel v sorry for Poker. But it is the risk all mongers run. Other types of STI (Chlamydia and Gon) can be treated with anti biotic Zithromax. Which it is possible to buy on the internet or even over the counter in some countries. But herpes is not treatable.
Poker will need to tell Mrs P if HE has one. She will get it if they have sexual relations in future.
I know a number of guys on ISG who have become friends who are now single through mongering. I am in that cycle too so I'm not being holy here. I'd like to get off, and have tried unsuccessfully.
I hadn't been to a FKK until a year ago. Mongered all over the world. The initial thrill of so many naked women was amazing and I've posted about my experiences in several FKK clubs in Berlin and Frankfurt. The real problem in FKK clubs is that BBBJ is standard. So when you think that the girl is only getting 50 for 30 minutes. To do well in a day she needs at least 6 cocks she will suck. It means if you are no. 7 she is sharing you with the previous 6 cocks! As a result, I very rarely ever accept a BBBJ in a FKK club. Just not worth the risk. Neither is DATY. Kissing will not give you genital herpes. You can get oral herpes (coldsores) but you can get them off anyone you kiss. Full sex with condom is safer than BBBJ as no body fluid is being passed.
Sorry for the apparently negative report. Just wanted Mojoman to know that HE is not alone in his feelings. I'm still trying to give this up. For one reason. Whilst the girls are lovely and my little soldier has needs, so does my brain. And the constant lying, covering up, excuses and fear of being caught is starting to make me think I should pay more attention to the needs of my brain to be relaxed than to my cock. Maybe I'm just getting too old for this. But the guilt and the risk Poker has highlighted is starting to be too much.[/QUOTE]PayForIt,
Thank you for very insightful information. It was interesting reading!
I also try to minimize risk with only accepting CBJ, no DATY and kissing, but I know that I could still catch a STD. I also bring a small antibac bottle and ask the girls before sessions if they don't mind to clean their hands. I also do it at the same time.
I have read about condoms with covers for the area around penis shaft and disinfectant creams that can be applied on uncovered areas, but all this preparations kind of kills the mood. Anyone tried it?
[QUOTE=KaveMan;1627355]Sorry to hear about this.
Its in 20% of population and has to be double that with prostitutes.
I asked here about who has gotten herpes and zero people responded. Seems totally unbelievable that majority of monger don't have it.
I am sure many mongers have it and choose not to discuss it.
Also, seems like Oases testing policy needs to be more thorough.[/QUOTE]I cannot disagree with your statement about mongers not wanting to discuss it. I seem to recall people asking about the prevalence of herpes every once in a while. Some people seem eerily quiet. The only positive reason I can think of for the eerie silence whenever this question is posed is perhaps people believe that it has already been debated "ad nauseam" and thus decide that there is no reason to comment.
[QUOTE=CaptDan;1627101]Your success rate will be high (perhaps very high) because your face is well known to the hookers in Oase and also because you are known not to be just a 50 man. An unknown punter will not have the same success rate (even with the very same WG selection as you), simply because the likelihood is (and the assumption will be made) that the unknown will probably never return, never be a regular and hence can be treated in a sharkier (get as much money for as little effort as possible) manner. Of course this is a simplification of reality for explanation purposes.
The experience of some (many) club visitors will fall between both extremes but it is important for first time (irregular) visitors to remember that a well known visitor will have a more favorable perception of a club because he has established credentials with the working girls. In other words whereas a regular visitor may have a +90% chance of a good session, an unknown visitor may only have a 75% chance and will experience slightly sharker behavior. This again is a simplification but (imo) is a concept which is true of many clubs and not just Oase.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more with your statement about "regulars" like Syzygies having a higher success rate. But, I should hope that this is common sense for most people who read and know about Syzygies status as a regular.
I have tried.
Whole body latex suits. Took me 29 minutes to get it on. Girl asked if she could paid for first half hour up front.
Hand hygiene gel. Girl asked me if I had turned gay.
Showering multiple time. Girl told me I had OCD, gave me a supply of Prozac but after I took it then dic no work.
Putting liniment on the bits not covered by condom. Some girls tolerated smell but my balls have never been the same.
The antibiotic powder with the girls but they thought it strange. One of them got a sachet of Nutella and asked me to lick it off her pussy. Seemed to make us both feel better.
YMMV.
BSK.
[QUOTE=Mojoman74;1627571]PayForIt,
Thank you for very insightful information. It was interesting reading!
I also try to minimize risk with only accepting CBJ, no DATY and kissing, but I know that I could still catch a STD. I also bring a small antibac bottle and ask the girls before sessions if they don't mind to clean their hands. I also do it at the same time.
I have read about condoms with covers for the area around penis shaft and disinfectant creams that can be applied on uncovered areas, but all this preparations kind of kills the mood. Anyone tried it?[/QUOTE]
STDs and Herpes have been discussed dozens of times in various threads. Users get tired of discussing it over and over again. I have never caught anything serious in over 10 years of clubbing, including BBBJ, DFK and DATY. There are guys who caught something but nothing that wasn't cured after a visit to the doctor and a few days of medication.
Rates for FKK girls outside clubs: This topic also has been discussed multiple times over the last years. Some girls will not even be willing to do it. Others will actively offer it at various rates. You have to decide if this is what you want; if a girl charges 800€ per day. That is entry for Oase plus 2 beers, a pizza and 7 hours worth of room time. Do you really want her around you all day? I only meet with girls I like and have a connection with. It was always the girl asking to meet outside. No money involved. Was everything from just a coffee or a visit to a restaurant or cinema or overnight at a nice hotel or a few days of vacation.
HB.
[QUOTE=Bearsk;1627823]I have tried.
Whole body latex suits. Took me 29 minutes to get it on. Girl asked if she could paid for first half hour up front.
Hand hygiene gel. Girl asked me if I had turned gay.
[/QUOTE]Good one. You crack me up! Nice to change the mood from doom and gloom.
[QUOTE=CaptDan;1627101]
The experience of some (many) club visitors will fall between both extremes but it is important for first time (irregular) visitors to remember that a well known visitor will have a more favorable perception of a club because he has established credentials with the working girls. In other words whereas a regular visitor may have a +90% chance of a good session, an unknown visitor may only have a 75% chance and will experience slightly sharker behavior. This again is a simplification but (imo) is a concept which is true of many clubs and not just Oase.[/QUOTE]Some girls are wary of me, and think I am a bad man, only to later find out I am just a pussy cat. The rumours that girls spread are always larger then life. My first session with Carla, she kept repeating that she was not scared of me, which seemed strange, but obviously a reaction to rumours. She did say she knew all about me from other girls. Its wise to try to get a good reputation. I know of other guys with worse reputations who get refused by more girls. Mr. H is well known to be hung like a horse and to play pranks on the girls, so some avoid him.
Of course its fairly obvious to them who is knowing most of the girls names, turning up regularly, and doing the lists. Girls may even have an incentive to wish to show up on the highly recommended girl lists, but they should not get there if they are not generally giving most customers a good service.
A lot of girls are leaving World because of new stupid rules that have been introduced and the new "Hausdame" who is harassing the girls. Again the club is focussing on the wrong things.
HB.
HB. Yes. World always picks on the workers when it wants to cut costs. Under decent management World would do better.
HB. Mcadonis. kaveman. I have never caught anything, except a cold, from a working girl
Payforit. One practical idea would be to prepurchase medication for STI so you can take it immediately. Of course this will only work if you have visible symptoms.
Mojoman/Payforit. One option is to tell your wife/partner. It may be difficult but it could even improve the relationship
Maybe all these issues should be discussed in the Lounge Area rather than Oase