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[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]I am just an ordinary guy finding his way through the sauna clubs and FKKs of Deutschland looking for the elusive holy grail of the best BBBJ and CIM session that one can find. [/QUOTE]
Well, as I remember your first session was the famous Czech Linda at Palace. Hard to top her BBBJ and CIM for the best out there, so I'm afraid you've set a very high bar for your quest.
[QUOTE=Excess]Speaking of which (green) a good girl or any girl in a good Swiss club will get a step up of 100% or more in her 1/2 hourly rate versus a good German FKK and could be another factor and one which could encourage most people to give it a try.[/QUOTE]
The math is right but I was surprised on my visit last week that Michelle (from Switzerland), who told everybody she would go back home for the Euro 2008, was still at Oase when it has already started.
Not only was she still there, but I also met with a couple of other girls who migrated from Globe to Oase during the Euro 2008. They both told me that it's because of the too strict discipline imposed by Globe. We all already know about the compulsory DFK and BBBJ even if the client has doubtful hygiene (and "tourists" coming for football events don't have the reputation to have the best hygiene). Some "tourists" also do not treat the girls correctly like the locals as they are unlikely to come back. Another big problem is that, at Globe, they are chased after by management after each session and pushed back to work immediately. They can't hide anywhere to take a rest, especially if other clients are already lining-up in queue waiting for them.
They also told me that they don't make that much more in Globe because they have less sessions per day. Not only there are less customers, but they are not allowed to leave the client before the 30mn are over while in Oase they can sometimes process 3 clients in one hour.
I found it rather contradictory, complaining that you cannot process as much customers per hour at Globe and, at the same time, complaining that management is pushing you back to work.
The explanation they gave is that they are not tired processing several clients in a row with a 10-15mn sessions (which involves less than 5mn "real" fuck) but, if one client keeps pounding them for 30mn, or if they have an orgasm (apparently, this do happen), it's very hard for them in this case to be pushed back to work immediately.
This makes me realised that, at Oase, sometimes I had to wait a long time for a girl and wondered where she disappeared after her client has come back, while this never happened at Globe. Compulsory BBBJ, DFK, DATY, etc.... effective 30mn in room and girls back to work asap have probably been implemented by Globe for best customers service, but may not be that ideal for the girls.
Jim
GandJim,
[QUOTE=GandJim] The math is right but I was surprised on my visit last week that Michelle (from Switzerland), who told everybody she would go back home for the Euro 2008, was still at Oase when it has already started.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I have seen Swiss Michelle throughout June at Oase. She always seems to be a permanent fixture there. She is more regular and certain of a hit than the erratic attentance of my A list girls.
[QUOTE=GandJim]Not only was she still there, but I also met with a couple of other girls who migrated from Globe to Oase during the Euro 2008. They both told me that it's because of the too strict discipline imposed by Globe. We all already know about the compulsory DFK and BBBJ even if the client has doubtful hygiene (and "tourists" coming for football events don't have the reputation to have the best hygiene). Some "tourists" also do not treat the girls correctly like the locals as they are unlikely to come back. Another big problem is that, at Globe, they are chased after by management after each session and pushed back to work immediately. They can't hide anywhere to take a rest, especially if other clients are already lining-up in queue waiting for them.
They also told me that they don't make that much more in Globe because they have less sessions per day. Not only there are less customers, but they are not allowed to leave the client before the 30mn are over while in Oase they can sometimes process 3 clients in one hour.
The explanation they gave is that they are not tired processing several clients in a row with a 10-15mn sessions (which involves less than 5mn "real" fuck) but, if one client keeps pounding them for 30mn, or if they have an orgasm (apparently, this do happen), it's very hard for them in this case to be pushed back to work immediately.
Compulsory BBBJ, DFK, DATY, etc.... effective 30mn in room and girls back to work asap have probably been implemented by Globe for best customers service, but may not be that ideal for the girls.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I have heard these comments too before from girls at Oase who worked in Switzerland clubs. Although they did not paint such a rosy picture as yours. One comment I heard was the "mind games" played to make the girls work to the the end to close the club or to get them back to work or to go with clients that are demanding of them or clients that have shall we say some really interesting fetishes that they were happier earning less at Oase because it was less stressful on their minds (not their bodies) and they could choose their customers.
However, from a customer's viewpoint the Swiss management has got it a concept there that wants repeat business and is protecting their franchise.
Please do not get me wrong, I am all in favour of free choice and will. This is why I am so mad when I find girls have managers.
If the girls perform compulsory BBBJ with no CBJ nor putting a paper towel with a hole in it over the schwanz shaft to cover the excessive pubic hair and compulsory DFK and compulsory DATY and they get their full 30 minutes then the guys have got to love it and you don't need to be scrupously clean. I mean how many times have we seen on the various forums about guys not getting DFK, DATY is off the menu, she did a CBJ and not a BBBJ and she processed me in 5 minutes complaints. The Swiss appear to think that this feedback is not good for business.
Then has been many a time I have seen guys walk out of a room or getting a BBBJTCIM and just head back into the main lounge to their friends. Not the most clean of results especially if you are going to go for another, but then this is natural for some.
As for personal hygiene I immediately head to the showers to clean up after a session. I have had so many showers (even when sitting around for longer periods in between sessions) for BBBJ that my skin drys out and I always brush my teeth and tongue after meals, breath mints etc.. that I have got to be clean for DFK (I think).
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
@ Globe guys are allowed to cum twice in 30 min for the price of a standard 30 min session. Lots of girls don't like that.
Linda: She is at Globe, and if she does come back to Germany and to which club is not in her hands, there's somebody deciding for her. And for Lina, Frederica, Angelina and more Czech/Slovakian girls.
HB
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Tto which club is not in her hands, there's somebody deciding for her.[/QUOTE]What does it mean? You mean Linda is a victim of human traffic?
WBS
For the benefit of people who have not visited recently, I attach a snap recently taken from my private helicopter. As you can see, much of the garden area is now taken up by a large swimming pool, which is very welcome (especially when heated - it was cold on the day I visited). This welcome development does however mean that the outdoor bit is now pretty well taken up by sun-loungers and feels a bit cluttered, at least by comparison with what it was. Had a good double session with Julia and Stellina, who perform well together and are very friendly; then one hour with Lil, attractive young German schoolgirl type.
[QUOTE=Mind Snatcher]For the benefit of people who have not visited recently, I attach a snap recently taken from my private helicopter. As you can see, much of the garden area is now taken up by a large swimming pool, which is very welcome (especially when heated - it was cold on the day I visited). This welcome development does however mean that the outdoor bit is now pretty well taken up by sun-loungers and feels a bit cluttered, at least by comparison with what it was. Had a good double session with Julia and Stellina, who perform well together and are very friendly; then one hour with Lil, attractive young German schoolgirl type.[/QUOTE]Great photo, it was always difficult to relate where you are when in the garden in relation to the road, do you know if the land behind the pool, beyond the trees, to the right as you are in the car park, is owned by the club and could possibly expand into at a later date? Also who remembers the teniis courts that were never used (to my knowledge anyway)thanks again for the photo, I will be back in Oase on 4th August all being well.
[QUOTE=Mind Snatcher]For the benefit of people who have not visited recently, I attach a snap recently taken from my private helicopter. As you can see, much of the garden area is now taken up by a large swimming pool, which is very welcome (especially when heated - it was cold on the day I visited). This welcome development does however mean that the outdoor bit is now pretty well taken up by sun-loungers and feels a bit cluttered, at least by comparison with what it was. [/QUOTE]
Hey MS,
Nice aerial shot! The Google map site STILL has a picture of the old tennis court.
Cheers,
Dedalus
[QUOTE=West By Sun]What does it mean? You mean Linda is a victim of human traffic?
WBS[/QUOTE]
Hey,
What HB is probably saying is that most of these girls have "managers" and Linda ain't any exception to that rule.
Cheers,
Dedalus
[QUOTE=GandJim]The math is right but I was surprised on my visit last week that Michelle (from Switzerland), who told everybody she would go back home for the Euro 2008, was still at Oase when it has already started.
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Hey Jim,
Long time, no see.
You mean Michelle may have told an inaccuracy? You're kidding.
Seriously, she is a sweetheart and not at all a bad session, but she has never been the most reliable when it comes to veracity. I wish I had a Euro for every time she has said she was going to leave Oase and go back to work in Switzerland for good.
She is still a blast and full of interesting "stories". The accent is kinda cute also.
Grüezi mit einand!
Dedalus
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Dedalus]What HB is probably saying is that most of these girls have "managers" and Linda ain't any exception to that rule.[/QUOTE]
That's it. Same for the other girls mentioned.
HB
Mind Snatcher,
[QUOTE=Mind Snatcher] much of the garden area is now taken up by a large swimming pool, which is very welcome (especially when heated - it was cold on the day I visited). This welcome development does however mean that the outdoor bit is now pretty well taken up by sun-loungers and feels a bit cluttered, at least by comparison with what it was. [/QUOTE]
The outdoor swimming pool at Oase is great. I take a dip whenever I visit AND when its warm weather as its not heated at all. I welcome this new development at Oase as it really brings focus point for the garden area.
Yes, I agree that the sun loungers everywhere can be perceived as cluttered but I do not think it cluttered when there are beautiful naked girls on the loungers.
[QUOTE=Mind Snatcher] then one hour with Lil, attractive young German schoolgirl type. [/QUOTE]
I saw Lil or Lily the petite German girl freelancer type today (22 June) at Oase. She was making a few of the German clientele very happy.
I had other girls today - Elena (Russia), Timar (Hungary), Alissa (Poland) and Samantha (Germany).
Kind regards
Londonbaskecase
[QUOTE=Dedalus]You mean Michelle may have told an inaccuracy? You're kidding.
Seriously, she is a sweetheart and not at all a bad session, but she has never been the most reliable when it comes to veracity. I wish I had a Euro for every time she has said she was going to leave Oase and go back to work in Switzerland for good.
She is still a blast and full of interesting "stories". The accent is kinda cute also.[/QUOTE]
Michelle of Switzerland was working at Oase on 21-22 June for those wanting a sighting of her recent whereabouts.
She was doing brisk business as usual. She really must be piling the cash away some where putting it to good use with the number of sessions she has.
Cheers,
Londondbasketcase
Hi Hessen Bub,
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub] @ Globe guys are allowed to cum twice in 30 min for the price of a standard 30 min session. Lots of girls don't like that. .[/QUOTE]
This come two times in half a hour type of service sounds excellent at Globe. I rarely hear of the same in London's scene. To have it as standard (if the guy can do it) in Globe in CH is amazing. Of course the girls will not be thrilled as it is more work for them.
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Linda: She is at Globe, and if she does come back to Germany and to which club is not in her hands, there's somebody deciding for her. And for Lina, Frederica, Angelina and more Czech/Slovakian girls.[/QUOTE]
Hessen Bub, just checking - are you referring to the Oase versions of "Lina, Frederica, Angelina and more Czech/Slovakian girls" or to the Palace versions of "Lina, Frederica, Angelina and more Czech/Slovakian girls"?
I know an Angelina (Czech) at Palace who likes to talk about her boyfriend and the holidays she has been on with him financed by her earnings but can not describe to me actually where she went. Angelina also likes to say kissing is for her boyfriend or DATY is for her boyfriend only.
I have not come across a Frederica as yet. I know a Lena (not Lina) at Oase.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
I was at Oase late last Summer (2007) after the renovations replacing the indoor pool, etc..
Have they changed the outdoor pool since last Summer?
Note: I've been visiting since March 1998, sure have seen a lot of changes since then. Just wondering if there's been even more changes since I visited last August.