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When I first saw her at Oase she looked so pretty, I was very wary that she was a processor. But one day I had a session and was hooked. She can be quite charming. I think she had some problems with a boyfriend and that probably accounted for the weight gain. Once brought her a box of chocolates and she melted. Really, a very sweet girl. Look forward to seeing her again. So many women, so many clubs, but so little time.
[QUOTE=Jackyo].
Secondly, they can communicate (they all speak German - it takes a certain mindset to master what Mark Twain called "die schreckliche deutsche Sprache" - adjective declensions alone require a certain discpline) and conversation is not at the "Me Tarzan, You Jane" level. I don't like dumb women. My objectives are as much "Land und Leute kennenlernen", in other words, a cultural exchange as it is in indulging my primal instincts. I get more out of a conversation with a German woman than I do from someone who can't get any of her ideas across.
What one has to watch out for are the hardened hookers who are there to burn and churn. They can take any shape and size and come in all possible nationalities. Most commonly though they are the best lookers in a club. If you visit a club and a stunningly beautiful woman is off to the side and she gets no customers, you need to ask yourself why that is so. The regulars are on to her - that's why.[/QUOTE]
Hallo Jackyo,
Thanks for reminding me of that Twain essay. When I was learning this blamed "Gesprächunterhaltungsmethode" (making up German nouns can be fun!!!) I often read that one for a little "Unterstützung". The line about some German words being so long that they have perspective is both hilarious and true.
Having some abilities with "the Awful German Language" has been invaluable in the FKKs. I probably only communicate in English with 5% or less of the girls that I session with. Now, while I have nothing against German girls in the clubs, I usually get better sessions out of girls from somewhere else. Back in the heydays of Babylon, this was different but since I do most of my FKKing in Frankfurt these days, things are different. The last really good sessions that I can remember with a German girl was with Romy at Oase and Charlie at Palace. I am interested in trying Jeanette at World sometime soon.
One little disadvantage with some of these German girls is that sometimes I can't get them to shut up and start the session. Don't get me wrong, for I like conversation, but sometimes these girls get get a little too loquacious in the rooms.
Also, I get the impression from some German girls that they have a bit of a hangup about the profession that they have chosen and this at times comes through in their performance. There is a cute German girl at Palace named Magdalena who fits this profile. Nice girl, but one of the worst sessions that I have ever had.
Would that all girls of the Teutonic persuasion had an attitude like Jill at Flamingo Island, Lisa (Berlin) at Oase, or Charlie at Palace.
Gruß
Dedalus
For what it is worth - sorry, this discussion is swerving off-topic - I have learnt that German providers can be the very best. The trick is to establish whether they are there everyday, or just irregularly to top up their income.
The latter tend not to get hardened, and continue to enjoy sex. Jill at Flamingo Island is good example: comes for the late shift on Fridays (I think she still does anyway), enjoys getting shagged silly for a few hours, usually by her regulars, and taking home a few hundred Euros in the morning.
The classic example of the former category (he says, veering back to relevance on the Oase thread) is Sabrina, about whom enough has ben said.
[QUOTE=Toscana]I have learnt that German providers can be the very best. The trick is to establish whether they are there everyday, or just irregularly to top up their income. The latter tend not to get hardened, and continue to enjoy sex. [/QUOTE]
That is absolutely true! I know a couple of other examples. Diana at FKKW is /was only there on the weekends, and only when she feels like it. And if she digs you, sex is just out of this world.
Also, I have had more than my fair share of German non-pros, and pretty much all of them were good lays.
I know this is irrelevant to this discussion but for those of you who know a little bit of German grammar, here is a link to Mark Twain's essay on the "Awful German Language".
[url]http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/linghebr/awfgrmlg.html[/url]
Its a classic and incredibly funny! I was literally rolling on the floor laughing the first time I read it.
A must for an English speaker trying to learn the language.
I should explain that I came into contact with the German language something like 30 years ago on an academic level and really lucked out on it. The best decision I have ever made.
At that time I got into it for personal interest reasons. I had absolutely no idea it would be linked with hobbying, had absolutely no clue there was anything like an FKK club scene.
The the Internet opened my eyes to this as a possibility. I've been hopelessly hooked ever since.
I personally would not visit clubs in Germany if I did not speak the language. To me its like saying I like Polish women and should look into visiting Warsaw. Not much of a chance I do that anytime soon with my ten words of Polish.
I don't know how monolingual English-only speakers do it. I have commend those of you who go because it takes guts to plunge yourself into a largely foreign environment and only understand a portion of what is going on around you.
I speak to the girls only in German, enjoy verbally sparring with them and making them laugh. If she is on the same wavelength as I am, a little irreverent, a little quirky, funny and communicative, we get along well.
My standard for a GFE is meeting someone I'd like to be with in real-life not just for the short Lebensabschnitt which a typical FKK session is. Its probably a higher standard that what most guys would describe as a GFE considering they mostly look only to the physical act itself and her service orientation.
Think "geisha" here and not just a sex partner. I have absolutely no romantic notions about it though - I am realistic about this aspect of it.
My only real complaint about German women is that there aren't enough fair-skinned raven-haired ones. There are way too many blondes there and after a while it gets boring.
[QUOTE=Dedalus]Back in the heydays of Babylon, this was different but since I do most of my FKKing in Frankfurt these days, things are different. [/QUOTE]
So you are a Babylon veteran too! My favorite club until it started to fall apart. I'd stay at a hotel in Bergheim to facilitate visits. If I came to visit for a week, I would visit it at least twice: on the first day of my trip, on the last day of my trip. Always found someone I'd obsess about at this club and usually she was German.
The classic German woman from this club was the legendary Nina. You would know you were in the presence of something really unusual if you ever saw her in the Kontakzimmer. Tall, nice figure, nice face.. unbelievable visually.
[QUOTE=Dedalus]One little disadvantage with some of these German girls is that sometimes I can't get them to shut up and start the session. Don't get me wrong, for I like conversation, but sometimes these girls get a little too loquacious in the rooms.[/QUOTE]
This is true too! I like women who have something to say but if they talk too much I can't get in the mood. But then again, they complain that I talk too much myself.
At PT Mettmann I realized just how talkative I am. The rest of the guys go at it with the girls and grunt and moan. I tend to make sentences which the rest of the room can hear and they start making comments in the background. I need to put a lid on it.
If there is too much of a distraction going on, it is less likely that I come.
[QUOTE=Dedalus]Also, I get the impression from some German girls that they have a bit of a hangup about the profession that they have chosen and this at times comes through in their performance. There is a cute German girl at Palace named Magdalena who fits this profile. Nice girl, but one of the worst sessions that I have ever had.[/QUOTE]
Mostly I know enough to keep a certain distance when asking questions. I never ask, for example, what brought them to decide they would do this as a profession, why they need the money, etc... Some are fairly open about it though, will talk about their personal circumstances, their "husbands".
While I was in PT Dorsten last week, I was telling a local German guy about how forward the women are in Oase, and how they constantly grab your cock while trying to entice you.
He said "Ah wow, I got to go there man" and got horny trying to imagine it, and started rubbing his cock under his towel!!!
Seriously :D :D
[QUOTE=Jackyo]So you are a Babylon veteran too! My favorite club until it started to fall apart. I'd stay at a hotel in Bergheim to facilitate visits. If I came to visit for a week, I would visit it at least twice: on the first day of my trip, on the last day of my trip. Always found someone I'd obsess about at this club and usually she was German.
The classic German woman from this club was the legendary Nina. You would know you were in the presence of something really unusual if you ever saw her in the Kontakzimmer. Tall, nice figure, nice face.. unbelievable visually.[/QUOTE]
Hello Jackyo,
There was a time when I was so addicted to Sabrina, Susie, Ivette, Tanya, Shirina AND ESPECIALLY NINA that I was driving up there nearly every other Friday. If we ever meet up, then I can tell you some stories about some of the odd driving notions that I use to get just so I could slip in a Bergheim-run.
( If look take a look at any decent map of Germany, then you will quickly discover that the shortest distance between Stuttgart to Offenburg does NOT go through Bergheim.)
I was actually there on Nina's first day. I was shocked when she told me her age. I found her story pretty amusing and of course she was drop-dead gorgeous. Probably still to this day, she remains my all-time favorite.
I was also there the day of the first big raid that led to so many problems. Nina left as did many of the other top-acts, they went through some funny price-structure changes, and I found Oase which is closer for me and back then, since it was really the only game in town as far as big FKKs went, the line-ups were always stupendous. Nothing stays the same.
Enough nostalgia!
Gruß
Dedalus
So whatever happened to Nina, or are you both talking like a couple of pensioners about a time so long ago none of us can remember! Actually you are right Babylon was good, but I must have gone there first when it was on the downward curve. A great Turkish teenager called Dilara is all I recall, now works in Cologne. Strange isn't it how German girls seem to have a hang-ups about the job. It's not that they don't like sex but each one of them confirms that old schoolboy saw about Germans, Danes and Dutch. They are sexually liberated but emotionally cold.
[QUOTE=Marlow]So whatever happened to Nina, or are you both talking like a couple of pensioners about a time so long ago none of us can remember! .[/QUOTE]
Hello Marlow,
Often I feel like a pensioner. But I still have many years to go.
Nina stopped after about one and a half years of working. There were all kinds of rumors ranging for her going to study, to her taking her savings and opening a Hotel/Pension in Macedonia, to her taking up with a rich member of a prominent middle eastern family. Who knows? I just know that she stopped, to the dismay of many of us.
[QUOTE=Marlow]
Strange isn't it how German girls seem to have a hang-ups about the job. It's not that they don't like sex but each one of them confirms that old schoolboy saw about Germans, Danes and Dutch. They are sexually liberated but emotionally cold.[/QUOTE]
Volltreffer!!!! Certainly there are many exceptions and one should not be so quick to stereotype, but from my general experience, it is hard to argue with this statement.
Cheers,
Dedalus
[QUOTE=Dedalus] Nina stopped after about one and a half years of working. There were all kinds of rumors ranging for her going to study, to her taking her savings and opening a Hotel/Pension in Macedonia, to her taking up with a rich member of a prominent middle eastern family. Who knows? I just know that she stopped, to the dismay of many of us.
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.. who had the power to turn men's minds into mush.
You literally would want to sign over all of your worldly possesions to her to have her.
There was an All Points Bulletin put out on the other forums when she stopped.
All I can say is that in my eight years of hobbying I've not come across anyone in all the time who was as amazing a physical specimen. And she was a nice person too.
The only one I can think of who might come close is Valentina at World. She was tall, blonde, had nice natural tits which were perfectly formed. She could have done a photo shoot for Penthouse. If you stood close you could see these small fine blonde hairs on her waist. It was very hard to ignore her from across a room and I would be at attention just walking behind her.
Yes, I did have the pleasure of meeting her. We made small talk at first and I said she needed to smile more because that cold Nordic blonde look is a little intimidating for most guys. She was a little too efficient and professional in the room though. I saw her in the Summer of 03 and never again saw her on subsequent trips to World. I would have wanted to book sessions with her if only to carress her tits.
I have recently compiled the notes I took of all of the FKK trips I've taken since 99, by way, and though there are some holes I am more or less in a position to write a historical retrospective - which I will do when I have time.
[QUOTE=Jackyo].. who had the power to turn men's minds into mush.
You literally would want to sign over all of your worldly possesions to her to have her.
.[/QUOTE]
Tie me to the mast while these siren voices sound around me. I have the terrible feeling that if I ventured into any of the lands from whence these goddesses hail I would never return. Bond could never resist them so how can we mere mortals?
or is the horrible truth that when they age they turn into those little old ladies who actually run Russia? The kind that give you the evil eye at the newspaper kiosk, the train station, the airport toilet, in the bus queue.
Well, another lovely day at FKK Oasis. Took my buddy "Eddie" (name changed) for the first time there. It was an eye opening experience.
We arrived at about 4pm on Friday. Got changed and started explaining to him the ropes. Took him a while to concentrate as he was amazed by the female buffet available!
We sat down in one of the couches and talked about the good ol' days. Commented on some of the girls walking by. Finally one caught my eye. A petite brunette from Porto Rico. Skin like silk and a butt you can bounce a quarter off of.
We went into the cinema where we chatted a bit while I was fondling here after market breasts and she fondled me. As I started gettign hard she looked at me and then with a develish grin, proceeded to take me into her mouth. Her technique was ok (not much hand use) but the suction was incredible.
After a few minutes she then got on top of me and began riding me. She was so tight it was amazing (just a note, it's been almost 1.5 yrs that i've been to FKK). I couldn't take it anymore so I threw her around on the couch and rode her hard until I came! Can't remember name, started with an M, but looks 8 and technique 8.
After that, and after my buddy had his first session, we went outside (as it was still a bit light) and enjoyed the garden for a few.
After regaining our energy, we decided to go back inside. Again we sat on the couch, enjoying the scene and working out a new plan of attack.
Not too long afterwards, two girls (again sorry, I'm crappy with names) approached us. One of them was tanned petite with dark brown hair from Lithuania and the other petite blond with small perky breasts from Kazakhstan. We decided to share a room and see what would happen.
We went into one of the rooms and the girls started sucking us off. Amazing. Then my girl got on top of me, but my biggest fear happended...she had a smelly pussy! It just killed my hard-on completely and I couldnt continue. My friend was done just shortly before me.
All in all, a great day. Just one thing was missing. Our other great mongering friend, Boofer.
(PS went to World later on that evening, but the pickings were not that good, so we ended up going back to Oasis around 10:30pm)
By the way, I'm going to Berlin in a few weeks. Can anyone recommend any good FKK's in Berlin? Would appreciate it.
Anyone looking for outdoor action at Oase will be out of luck, the whole back garden is being torn apart.
[QUOTE=Gemini72]Well, another lovely day at FKK Oasis.
By the way, I'm going to Berlin in a few weeks. Can anyone recommend any good FKK's in Berlin? Would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]
I believe you mean "Oase".
There are reports in this section of the forum about two clubs in Berlin: Artemis and La Folie.