FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[QUOTE=Super Cum 500; 1145359]Will girls be put off by young inexperienced guys?

It will show in the room and during sex.

Going to FKK for 2 reasons.

To get expereince sexually and to have sex with beautiful girls. Is this a bad idea. Is it best to go to an FKK when you are expreinece so you can enjoy it better.

I don't even know what Ill do in the room but I doubt it will be that fun for the girl? Hopefully I dotn cum soon early?

And maybe they think young pervy kid and prefer older distingueshed gentleman? I remember I went to a brothel in prgue and procedure was girls to come up to you and introduce themseleves. I think they felt embarrased and disliked having to do this with me as I was younger it just seemed really weird. Mayeb the grils will feel uncomfortable around a skinny teenage looking guy? On the other hand this fat old hooker said I coudl do what I want with her for any price I chose. I declined LOL[/QUOTE]I think it's totally legitimate for you to ask this question as I'm a young monger too and I feel for you. So here's some advice for you and all other would be punters alike.

I'll answer your questions first then give you some general advice to make sure you have fun in FKKs.

[b]Will girls be put off by young inexperienced guys? [/b]

Definitely not. The only thing that these hookers care about is cash. If it wasn't for that 18 year old rule and teenagers were let in, those girls wouldn't have any remorse whatsoever fucking all of them. This is their job and they do their best to earn as much money as possible in as little time as possible to provide for their families and kids in Eastern Europe and quit this tough and dirty job early.

[b]Is it best to go to an FKK when you are experienced so you can enjoy it better? [/b]

Experience does not come from nowhere; it's by practising that you get experience in any realm including punting. You'll learn from your mistakes first then from the mistakes of fellow mongers reported here.

[b]I don't even know what I'll do in the room but I doubt it will be that fun for the girl? [/b]

If you don't know what to do in the room, the hooker will know what to do with you. LOL.

[b]And maybe they think young pervy kid and prefer older distinguished gentleman? [/b]

Again the only thing they do care about is money and other considerations that I'll talk about later. So make no mistake, young or old, no money no honey. I think the weird vibe you got from hookers in Praha was mainly due to the fact that they were more familiar with guys in their forties or more so when you showed up they were like WTF? What's this young skinny fella doing here? Would you rather enjoy sex and have fun while you're still young, free and with high libido or wait till you get old with responsibilities and family and start looking for chemical assistance and feel the guilt for cheating on your wife and being a bad role model for your kids?

[b]Therefore it would seem it would be better to visit a prostitute once per week than spend $1000 in 1-2 days? [/b]

You don't have to spend $1000 in 1-2 days in clubs. The only amount of money that you must spend is €65 or €75 which is the entry rate. You don't have to fuck any hooker if you don't feel like. If you spend on average 8 hours there then it's like €8 per hour. For each hour you get a lot of eye candy seeing all the naked flesh and enjoying the sauna, Jacuzzi, pool, food as much as you can and above all a steady stream of sexy and naked girls landing in your lap one after the other and begging you to take your dick in their warm and wet mouths. Isn't that damn cheap for €8 an hour?

[b]I know the FKK is a whole fun experience and I see it as a one-off! [/b]

Hell yeah!

I hope that you can find some useful info in earlier answers, now some general advice for a young rookie.

Well first of all I don't really know how young you are but I had my FKK debut at Palace when I was 24. Two years later I'm still enjoying it. I go to Europe sporadically for business and if time and budget permit I go there. You'll find girls from 18 to early thirties if not more but the bulk of them are in their 20s. For the clients it's mainly 40-50 and some 30s but you can find also younger and older even some really senior German citizens who by the way give really good advice about the girls if you happen to talk to them because some of them live in the clubs LOL. The girls are mainly from Eastern Europe but some are German, Latina, Black and Asian. For the clients it's mainly the local German but you'll find also the French, Belgian, Dutch, Italian, Turkish, Middle Eastern, Russian and Asian. So that gives you some sense about the demographics. One thing is sure; if you're young you'll get some bewildered looks at some point but who cares.

Before you get to the club, make sure to be squeaky clean, clean shaven and well groomed. This helps for landing the best looking hookers. Also bring with you your tooth brush to make sure you keep a fresh breath after meals. This is very important if you like DFK. Also bring with you your shower gel if your skin is sensitive as the cheap gel there is of poor quality. Once you put on the bear garment and get out of the showers, the sharks will start attacking you. They'll promise you the world but disappoint you in the room. I suggest that you don't go with any girl in the first hour or two, just explore the place and relax. Try to get that dumb tourist mask off your face and stay relaxed and confident. They'll ask you if this is your first time and even if it's true never ever say yes. The fact that you were lucky enough to find this board before your first visit gives you great advantage. Some girls also may ask you about your age out of curiosity, you can fake it by adding a year or two or if you don't feel comfortable revealing your age tell them just that 'I'm old enough for you Shatz'. Whenever a girl sits next to you or starts a conversation, be nice and respectful to her even if you don't fancy her. Introduce yourself and let yourself carried away with the flow. Return all the smiles and be nice and gentleman, do not think of the girls as sex objects that are there for your pleasure otherwise they'll think of you as a walking wallet and give you crap service. Be nice and smiling and respectful exactly like what you normally do with normal girls. There is no harm too in approaching a girl if you like her, don't wait for her to find you or be booked by another patron.

When you feel now ready for your first session and you got your eye on your prey, agree clearly with her on the 'terms of use'. Tell her exactly what you want and don't feel inhibited (you'll get surprised by some of the requests these girls get) and express yourself clearly using simple and slow English (or whatever common language between you and her) and make sure she understands what you want and she agrees to do it. Then make sure how much she'll charge for it and be careful here, never accept to pay extra for non extra services. If for example you like DFK and the girl says 'honey, I don't kiss for €50 but for €100 I'll shove my tongue deep into your throat and etc. ' be sure that this is a bait and you should immediately dismiss her. Good providers do not play these dirty games. All this should not sound like a job interview or an interrogation but you need to give it context and make it flow naturally with the conversation. Otherwise you'll feel like you're configuring and buying a laptop online.

Once in the room I won't show you what to do now and most likely if you follow these steps you'll have great fun. However, there're still some be*s that will take your kindness and respect as a sign of weakness as they're not used to be treated well and refuse to provide some services that they agreed upon during the selection interview. In this (rare) case you should remind them kindly about your agreement, they'll throw all kind of excuses like misunderstanding or fatigue. But you shouldn't buy this. Stop the session immediately and go to the lady in the reception and explain to her calmly what went wrong. The session is already ruined but this is some sort of damage control. This is not about €50, I'd rather donate it to people in need then give it to this be* who rip clients off. This will teach her a lesson and you'll do a great service to the community. Mind you, don't do this in your first sessions because some girls will see you as a trouble maker and avoid you. I hope that you'll never come across this which is very easy if you follow my advice LOL.

On your first visit, I recommend that you avoid Palace. In fact, I can guarantee you'll get brutally and without mercy bitten by sharks. I got sharked there in the beginning and it took me many times before succeeding to domesticating the sharks and harness their charms to my advantage. Instead I recommend Oase where most girls give decent service and are honest.

Being young has its pros:
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[*]Girls like hanging around with you,
[*]They don't feel like they're fucking their father's best friend,
[*]The whole experience feels more natural,
[*]Etc.
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But has also its cons:
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[*]Girls don't like much of the hard and long pounding by young and strong hips,
[*]They know that young clients are neither regulars nor big spenders,
[*]Etc.
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In all my FKK adventures, I've never felt ostracized, alienated, discriminated, etc. By my age, some girls even recounted to me all the bloopers they experience daily with middle aged mongers and it was a big LOL.

The FKK is a great experience in my opinion and I think that everybody who can afford it should give it a whirl. Stop worrying and go there, have fun and report back here.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1143479]Maybe she did. Maybe she didn't. Who cares.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21VbKgOM0gg[/url]

HB[/QUOTE]HB and Deda,

Although it would be naive to believe that every girl cum was a real one, it would also be very naive for senior members to think that these girls never enjoy themselves and have orgasms on occasions with special customers that turn them on and are skilled at certain techniques. Some working girls claim its just a job to BF etc, but secretly have a really good time with their favourite customers.

I think BC is a guy with a lot of experience and not noted for bullshitting. He doesn't mention girls cumming that often, so I would tend to believe him.

In my experience a number of girls that give GFEs are also willing to orgasm on occasions. Some succumb to my very experienced DATY skills, even if took me 20 mins to get some girls there. Some girls have asked me not to do DATY, because they don't want to come and be too lazy to work, having allowed DATY on a previous occasion. I find particularly girls that have been off work for a while, can be really hot for it and more than ready to cum too. Sometimes its difficult to be sure if a girl made it or not, but on other occasions the spasms are there that would be hard to fake I believe. One girl at Palace even admitted after extended DATY, that I was her first ever customer to get her to orgasm. I didn't ever repeat with her as her skills were not so great. Many customers would not get a girl to orgasm from DATY, as they don't want to waste money and a lot of session time, however there are some sensitive girls that can make it real quick too (but rare for working girls).

My good time is enhanced greatly when the girl lets herself go and have a good time too.

Something that is very rare indeed, is when a girl has previously enjoyed a session so much (or maybe just because you are a good customer), that she offers a subsequent freebie, when bored or just hormones pumping.

There is no law that says a girl cannot enjoy her work, at least with some of the customers. Even if there was, laws are made to be broken. Girls don't like to admit to cumming at work on occassions though, to friends. Its a bit embarrassing for some of them. Others maybe completely honest.

Girls do put on an act at times, but its not necessary with every customer that they are very comfortable with. Exaggerated acts are a big turn-off.

Imagine for a moment, a great looking girl that wants regular good sex and maybe doesn't get enough. What about working in FKK for sometimes good money. If she doesn't like the guy, she can knock him back. If the sex was bad to ordinary, then at least she gets money. If the sex was super good, she can have a great time, and still make good money too!

P.S. Asian, black and Latin girls are more likely to be orgasmic with some customers. Other western girls are more likely to be in the never cum at work category (but not all).

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1145848]HB and Deda,

Although it would be naive to believe that every girl cum was a real one, it would also be very naive for senior members to think that these girls never enjoy themselves and have orgasms on occasions with special customers that turn them on and are skilled at certain techniques. Some working girls claim its just a job to BF etc, but secretly have a really good time with their favourite customers.

I think BC is a guy with a lot of experience and not noted for bullshitting. He doesn't mention girls cumming that often, so I would tend to believe him.

In my experience a number of girls that give GFEs are also willing to orgasm on occasions. Some succumb to my very experienced DATY skills, even if took me 20 mins to get some girls there. Some girls have asked me not to do DATY, because they don't want to come and be too lazy to work, having allowed DATY on a previous occasion. I find particularly girls that have been off work for a while, can be really hot for it and more than ready to cum too. Sometimes its difficult to be sure if a girl made it or not, but on other occasions the spasms are there that would be hard to fake I believe. One girl at Palace even admitted after extended DATY, that I was her first ever customer to get her to orgasm. I didn't ever repeat with her as her skills were not so great. Many customers would not get a girl to orgasm from DATY, as they don't want to waste money and a lot of session time, however there are some sensitive girls that can make it real quick too (but rare for working girls).

My good time is enhanced greatly when the girl lets herself go and have a good time too.

Something that is very rare indeed, is when a girl has previously enjoyed a session so much (or maybe just because you are a good customer) , that she offers a subsequent freebie, when bored or just hormones pumping.

There is no law that says a girl cannot enjoy her work, at least with some of the customers. Even if there was, laws are made to be broken. Girls don't like to admit to cumming at work on occassions though, to friends. Its a bit embarrassing for some of them. Others maybe completely honest.

Girls do put on an act at times, but its not necessary with every customer that they are very comfortable with. Exaggerated acts are a big turn-off.

Imagine for a moment, a great looking girl that wants regular good sex and maybe doesn't get enough. What about working in FKK for sometimes good money. If she doesn't like the guy, she can knock him back. If the sex was bad to ordinary, then at least she gets money. If the sex was super good, she can have a great time, and still make good money too!

P. S. Asian, black and Latin girls are more likely to be orgasmic with some customers. Other western girls are more likely to be in the never cum at work category (but not all). [/QUOTE]Hey Syzgies,

So, let me see if I understand this.

You've arrived at all of these conclusions about your (and others) orgasm producing prowess by what? The things that these girls tell you? So, you're basically taking these gal's word that you are making them come, is that it?

My friend, we've never met and I really don't mean any disrespect, but I never got the idea from reading your posts that you are as naive as all that. Some here are easily snowed, and I guess your reply just surprised me a little as I never, from reading you posts, put you in that category.

Also, I don't mean to bust your bubble of illusion. Nor that of BC's, Mark Thomas' or any one else's. An SP's illusion factor can be a prime reason why she gets repeat business and enjoys a good rep. On most days I'd be willing to let it go, call myself a realist, call you a dreamer and agree to disagree. Against my better judgement, and probably only because when I read your text I was sitting between two girls who are the polar opposites of the "illusion factor scale", I'll invite you to discuss the matter further in the GI thread. We should probably not cloud the Oase thread with this business, although quite a few gals there score pretty doggone high on the IFS.

Also I just finished a long day / night at both GT and LR shagging four girls stupid (Nancy and Ginger at GT, Irena and Dana at LR) and causing them to explode like Vesuvius, and now that my manly deeds are done for the day I require rest before sharing further thought on the matter. ;-))

BTW, did anyone else know that Dana got herself a set of bolt-ons?

Cheers,

Dedalus

[quote=woof woof; 1145837]hey dedalus,

no dropoff in the level of service from roxana for me-so far anyway. maybe you saw her on her bad hair day.

re: maria, isn't she the cute petite [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] from bulgaria? haven't had the pleasure to experience her yet but your endorsement has gotten me interested.

so how was friday evening at the club? good ratio? was rieke there?

best,

ww[/quote]hey ww,

i'll probably give roxana another chance, but my might skip the kino deal next time around. i think that was our mistake yesterday.

friday saw tons of girls and not that many men. girls were complaining about it. not the first time. quite a few few top acts were just sitting around or trolling without success. like shooting fish in a barrel as they say back home. there was a girl there that fit your description of rieke and although we made some flirty eye contact, she gave me kind of a cold impression. very cute visage, but she would have to bring an awful lot to the table in lieu of the restrictions that you mentioned.

when you mentioned a bulgarian maria at oase, i got nostalgic for the old days and my second session at oase with the legendary bulgarian maria. gone, but not forgotten.

however the maria i mentioned from friday is romanian. been at oase off and on for 3 years i think (help me out here hb). she's about 1. 70 out of heels, has straight dark hair, a prominent equine nose, nice b cups, long shapely gams, a few tats and she can be a serious smart ass. she's moody so it can be hard to read the sassy attitude as either playful or bitchy. on the bitchy days, one should just let her be. on her good days, she is as fine as it gets. i've done quickies with her, but like lena or judith, the hour session is worth it (and not just cause you can make her come in the hour session) but she is genuinely fun in the room. she'll throw a good illusion game at you and you'll walk out the room thinking you hung the moon when it comes to lovin'. also, i suggested taking her to a mirrored room, mainly because she has all pro legs and can do some of the stone hottest gam work you will find in any club. 'dem boys is fun to watch in action!

you should also be prepared that she might toss a sob story your way about her situation (past and present) and make no mistake; she's fishing for a euro stuffed whale who is brimming with generosity. she's good at this too. obviously one doesn't have to fall for this to have a good time with her.

i haven't sampled the entire menu at oase, but i know most of the dishes. i won't say that maria is the best item on the menu, but she's got to be in the top 5 or 10.

cheers,

dedalus

[QUOTE=Dedalus; 1145873]Hey Syzgies,

So, let me see if I understand this.

You've arrived at all of these conclusions about your (and others) orgasm producing prowess by what? The things that these girls tell you? So, you're basically taking these gal's word that you are making them come, is that it? [/QUOTE]Sure I understand a guy can be snowed.
No you don't understand this. I do not go by what girls say. I don't have the brain of a child or adolesent. I have too many years of experience behind me.
No no, girls do not tell me they orgasmed (at least rarely). I certainly wouldn't be dumb enough to believe everything they told me. You don't judge people by what they say. That would be stupid as few of these girls will be truthful.
An orgasm is not accompanied by an announcement "hey I just had a big cum".

I have never been present in a session between some other guy and girl, so If he told me what had happened in there, I wouldn't be in a position, to say "no it didn't, you are deluding yourself". My own personal experience is limiting as I do not have the same experience as others. I can only report my own experience.

I simply claim that some working girls are capable of enjoying sex and capable of orgasm if they choose. Some guys who are not into servicing a girl well may have never experienced this.

It ain't impossible for a girl to cum. This is a very natural thing. It may be rare but not impossible.

I don't claim to be able to make every girl cum, nor even most girls. I do claim that some are up for it when the mood takes them. Particularly Asians, and black / latin girls and occasionally caucasians. Its fine for you guys to remain sceptical if you never ever met a real female orgasm.

I have been stopped during DATY on plenty of occasions where the girl says she can't handle any more because she doesn't want to cum as will make her lazy to work properly. I think these girls are mostly being honest. They could just try to tolerate it for as long as possible to make more money from long session time.

Do you also believe its impossible to tell if an orgasm occurred? I agree its difficult to tell in a fair percentage. However sometimes the convulsions of the pussy muscles seem difficult to act when have mouth on there and a digit lightly assisting.

Anyone that thinks a girl cannot possibly cum is dumb.

Another probably rare thing, but did you know that some FKK girls picked up a BF that they met at work. One Oase girl Mxxxx (no longer at Oase) even consulted with me about what I thought whether she should quit working and go with a particular guy who was her BF and didn't want her to keep working even though he met her at Oase.

I know of another FKK girl who obtained multiple BFs from meeting at work. Could any of these guys actually turned the girl on and made her cum? Yes. Quite possible.

Did a customer ever get a freebie inside or outside of work from an FKK girl? Rare yes, but is has happened.

Maybe BC is smarter than me and just remains silent on this topic.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1145981]Did a customer ever get a freebie inside or outside of work from an FKK girl? Rare yes, but is has happened.[/QUOTE]Sure if you know the girl well and buy her a nice presents, you might get freebies.

WG are still girls and they do cum. I've experienced it many times. Nice.

Guys want to know what the girl did during the session, how she performed. They aren't interested in how you performed, hence the backlash you'll always get for 'over-reporting'. And if it sounds like your bragging or embellishing then you'll get comments from folks like Dedalus.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1146001]Guys want to know what the girl did during the session, how she performed. They aren't interested in how you performed, hence the backlash you'll always get for 'over-reporting'. And if it sounds like your bragging or embellishing then you'll get comments from folks like Dedalus.[/QUOTE]Nice point Breadman. Yes I can see I have bad habit of embellishing style (although I don't makeup anything).

If you check my posts, I do try hard to give details on the girl and how she performed. Some weirdo guys, orally fixated like me, will probably also want to know if the girl allows kissing and DATY and gives good illusions of liking it. How good is the GFE? If some guy merely reports that X gives a good session, its not enough for me because I want to know details of her style.

I understand many who just lie back a get blown will be bored by "action" reports of what the guy did to her. I will try to learn from your good advice.

One thing I like about BC's reports is that there is lot of factual info in there that needs not be disputed by anyone. I understand that real opinion is far less valuable here.

The forum is all about giving info and learning about what good experiences are possible from which girls. I try to report some detail about how a girl performs and hope others would do the same. The girl's style of work is very important to me.

Mr. 500, where exactly is your home?

Originally Posted by Super Cum 500. AS for sex I'd rather pay 50-100 Euros at home oncer per week than 1000-2000 Euros for one weekend holiday.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1145981]I do not go by what girls say. I don't have the brain of a child or adolesent. I have too many years of experience behind me.

I agree its difficult to tell in a fair percentage. However sometimes the convulsions of the pussy muscles seem difficult to act when have mouth on there and a digit lightly assisting.

[/QUOTE]I for one, am totally convinced.

Regards,

Mikey, who just wants them to shut the fuck up and let me concentrate.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1146028]Nice point Breadman. Yes I can see I have bad habit of embellishing style (although I don't makeup anything).

If you check my posts, I do try hard to give details on the girl and how she performed. Some weirdo guys, orally fixated like me, will probably also want to know if the girl allows kissing and DATY and gives good illusions of liking it. How good is the GFE? If some guy merely reports that X gives a good session, its not enough for me because I want to know details of her style. [/QUOTE]"So you think your that much better than the rest of us, we are lucky just to find the box." That's the take on reports that go from 'detail' to 'bragging'. And the more you write doesn't give any more credence to what your saying, there's no proof of your exploits except for what 'you' write. Nobody else was in the room except the girl and I doubt she'll be adding her two cents. Just expect the same types of comments on your next report if you embellish your prowess in the room.

Extended DATY or perfunctory, that's the question. If its a service provider, most are inclined to have them do most of the service. If you enjoy the ladies company and want to spend more quality time, then an extended trip south is warranted. If its an extremely hot looking pussy and her juices start flowing then a little extra effort pays off. If your not getting any response then its best just to move on in the program.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1145981]Sure I understand a guy can be snowed.

No you don't understand this. I do not go by what girls say. I don't have the brain of a child or adolesent. I have too many years of experience behind me.

Anyone that thinks a girl cannot possibly cum is dumb.

Maybe BC is smarter than me and just remains silent on this topic. [/QUOTE]Tsk tsk. Now now Syzgy. Let's try and keep this courteous and civil.

I'll not quarrel with the not so subtle insinuations that ole' Dedalus is dumber than dirt. Yeah, I know. You didn't directly say that. Nor did anyone say that women are incapable or achieving orgasm, that I can recall.

No matter. Most of the guys here who I have run clubs with would probably agree with you as far as my intelligence deficits, so you can't really be faulted there.

However I am reasonably awake enough to understand the simple instructions in the invitation that I offered. Mostly in terms of moving this to the General Info thread. If you want to discuss this further in a civil or otherwise manner, then meet me there, please.

See you later in the GI thread. At the moment I'm about to walk into World's doors.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Dedalus; 1146065]Tsk tsk. Now now Syzgy. Let's try and keep this courteous and civil.

I'll not quarrel with the not so subtle insinuations that ole' Dedalus is dumber than dirt. Yeah, I know. You didn't directly say that. Nor did anyone say that women are incapable or achieving orgasm, that I can recall.

No matter. Most of the guys here who I have run clubs with would probably agree with you as far as my intelligence deficits, so you can't really be faulted there.

Dedalus[/QUOTE]Yes, I know very well you are not dumb (and I don't claim it). Obviously you are not prepared to say its "impossible". Enjoy your day of illusions and maybe some real experiences too with some girls who don't bother to put on much of an act. I don't mean to be discourteous, merely a vigorous argument is the intention.
I remember fondly some really great reports from you quite a few years back, and then you seemed to slow down, until recent resurgence. I seem to be newer, because I changed handles to become more anonymous and am an erratic poster as present in Germany some of the time. BC is a good occasional friend. Who could avoid meeting him at Oase sometimes? ;)

I wish I could read an FKK girl's forum where we could see how dumb they think we are, when we get snowed.

I still have a great time with girls that kiss very enthusiastically depsite having just met me. Its one of those illusions as they clearly can't be feeling real passion, only have known me for a few seconds, and I'm nothing special. A least I am finicky to make sure I taste O.K.

So now we have just about reached agreement. Girls can act, give illusion, or put on a snow job, and it is possible that a girl can have an orgasm (lets not worry about frequency or likelihood).

I wonder if my Asian and Latin girls are better actresses / snow-job artists than the others? :confused: Its possible, coming from different clutures that try try harder to suck up to the man's feelings. Its possible they just have different attitudes.

There are some dull business like girls at Oase, especially some of the Romanians it seems, that give me a poor experience, but very few Asian / Latin / Black girls seem to be that way (at least of the ones I chose). The tall Thai girl was below standard for me (chemistry failed) but I forget her name. She doesn't seem busy. Meanwhile the short one, May, was just a fantastic GFE.

For anyone that read my recent reports you can tell I recently had an excellent time at oase. I am now considering another trip from england. The whole german experience is a great change for me. I have two specific areas that I would greatly appreciate help with. 1) if I went back to oase at the beginning of July would I be at a disadvantage because girls are on summer holidays, meaning that overall variety and numbers of girls down, or is the first week of July still quite early in the summer and on a weekend there would still be plenty to choose from?

The second issue I have, which probably seems like I am over analysing this but I would still like to know-I want to avoid.

The messes because from what I have read the atmosphere is not what I want or would enjoy-on messe website there is some exhibition called lopec or similar which ends at the end of june29/30, which would be a Thursday I am thinking of hitting oase 1/2nd July would there be an overflow of customers from the recently ended messe, or is the end date when delegates fly home, hence not affecting the oase atmosphere? If someone can decipher and make sense of the above 2 this would clear a new path for me to oase and more intoxicating times, funs and spills! Thanks mohab. (this is not the start of a list of questions for all those that remember-I just need the info-serious-and I have reported in depth now recently.) end.

1) I have been told by numerous working girls in fkk that if they don't like the look / smell / attitude of any particular customer that they have a way of making excuses and passing him onto the next girl, who normally then repeats the cycle. SO NO THEY ARE NOT YOUNG DUMB PROS WHO FUCK ANYTHING FOR MONEY AS STATED BY SOMEONE, and although there primary concern is to raise cash of course they have a level of morality which is quite finely tuned that alot of mongerers are so far up themselves to ever fully connect with or ever understand.

2) on my last visit to oase see report I had 2 hours of solid conversation with a Hungarian and moldovon beauty prior to.

Seperately engaging in 2 hour long sessions where prior to during talking no mention of rooms / sessions ever was mentioned.

3) I am sick of people refering to human beings as sharks. The only god damn reason they act like sharks is because all they get is stereotyped, verbally juggled by pricks who think they are cleverer because they have a fat wallet and a university education. THE GIRLS ARE ECONOMIC MIGRANTS, they have poor education, and if guys feed then verbal diarrohea, than believe me trying to connect in any other way than as a shark has been made impossible for them.

4) most have these girls have more street wise instincts and survival skills in their little finger than SOME of these pricks will ever accumulate in their whole lives.

5) I once had a beautiful croatian girl shower me in kisses hug me. Tell me she didn't care about the room, and wanted too stay with me, with no cost added? WHY?

6) WHY? Ill tell you why.go to fkk-relax-enjoy the eye candy-have great sex-BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY TREAT THESE.

GIRLS WITH THE UPMOST RESPECT AT ALL TIMES, with nothing but understanding for the intelligence they posses. And pleasure they give. Mohab