FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1468904]Guys,

I'm sorry for messing up this exclusive threads with my alien considerations and experiences. Opinions may be questioned, but facts not. I'm sorry if I'm not very clear and my english is not too good, some of it comes from google translator.

EG[/QUOTE]No need to be sorry. Nowadays Big Fkks have too much sharks, or bad behavior girls and forums are the place to write again and again the same poor or empty advices.

You shared your experience with a named girl, that is by far more than advicing and 'experienced regular' forumers do every year.

So I will be the only one to thank you for your posts.

I had the same bad experience with a same named girl in oase last year that I reported on french forum with the same advicing posts after it. I didn't behave like you but I really though about it. She didn't do the job, you don't have to stay cool, and did not hit her, that is the true limit. You acted right and are courageous, not like forumers who came here to give you 'advices' and incidently (?) encourage this kind of girls.

I'm in Fkk scene since more than ten years, I still fail in choosing new girl. Since all this time, I never found how to use an advice from 'perfect' men. Don't know why they still think its usefull to write hundred times a year the same empty things and don't write what they do in clubs or good girls they go with (or rarely). Perfection is something strange.

Now, I simply call these forumers pimps as I don't understand them at all anymore. They 'rule' forums in every country. At least, I agree they do a cool or soft censure? No, they simply censor true experiences with false good looking advices. For what purpose? The best answer is : pimp.

[QUOTE=EastGoing]Syz,

I appreciate your suggestions and comments about pills and condoms. About not being very clear I already apologized, but since you posted "True he is not very clear about anything", I might make you notice that your "I don't understand when girl complains she could not keep some guys dick up when is a good girl for me" is not too clear either, at least to me, not to mention other grammar errors ("there is someone more pedantic than I": after "than" a "me" sounds better to my ignorant ears) ; are you sure entrance + 4 x 30mins sessions= 220 euros? I pay each and everything out of my modest wallet, is it possible I'm better than you in mathematics? Or you get better prices?

EG[/QUOTE]He and I are pedantic rather than him and me. Me is used for the Object of a sentence.

Yes you are so right. I goofed on the maths and my grammar may not be too good even though English is my first language. We are all unclear at times.

One piece of advice. Even if you are angry, it's not good form to throw money at the girl or throw condoms. If others see this, it won't be helping you for the future sessions. We all can be angry with girls at times. This may kill a session but make sure it doesn't kill the whole day. Just find a better girl.

[quote=nille copenhagen; 1468871]i see your situation.

we are talking 10€ extra, a mcd meal is about 7-8€ is that not expensive for some crap frozen ready made food?

if you don't want to use the club facility why pay 70€ to enter, if it's only sex you want then why don't visit private girls or pure brothels? then you have saved 70€ entrance. or visit the flatrate partytreff clubs?[/quote]you don't seem to see it at all. the rest of your comments are irrelevancies.

what 10 euros extra? i don't eat maccas, even if were free. i have no idea what their prices are.

i will pay to eat something extra if the standard and speed warrants it. i don't usually dine in restaurants unless they have really special food and not often. otherwise i prefer to make my own.

the food at oase doesn't matter. i will go there for sex. food is not going to be a big issue in my thinking. if food mattered, i would have quit oase long ago.

each guy can choose for himself what he wants to do with regard to the restaurant. i suspect i won't be using their services in a big way. nille, you do what you want to do. i won't go telling you what to do or what you should like.

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1468961]Hehe,

But if you go to the new restaurant at Oase, you can have everything you mentioned, even fucking nice girls, you can even get BJ during your meal if you want, a win-win situation.[/QUOTE]Everything except good food.

HB

[QUOTE=Pistons;1467278]If this new resturant scheme continues, I won't ever return to Oase.[/QUOTE]Maybe a poll can be taken of forum members on what the change in catering arrangements means in terms of how they choose their FKK.

London Traveller has also intimated that for the man that spends the day at the club, the increased cost and limited food although improved food quality will not make Oase attractive anymore.

Maybe the suggestion is to take a pass out from the Oase and attend a imbiss takeaway close by or a restaurant or café in one of the nearer villages or back into Frankfurt which is not much of a drive away in terms of time if one has an all day and into the late stay planned.

Already, a short poll of colleagues have indicated that they will no more go to Oase due to what the Oase situation has become. Even the line up is no good enough to compensate since you can get what you want in terms of line out from World, Sharks, Palace and even Mainhattan. Already I have seen Sharks have a small improvement but the services are no on par with what I have experienced at the World. One colleague will no more come back in 2013 even based on his plans! He no more wants to go Villa Vertigo or Acapulco such as they are. It is down to me now.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Breadman;1468523]I'm assuming by bbq you are refering to what they were cooking in the restaurant and not outside, am I correct? Also, what was your take on the overall lineup?[/QUOTE]No, they were doing the BBQ outside. Lineup is not spectacular IMHO but there are one or two OK girls.

[QUOTE=Pistons;1469039]Rumor has it the portions are small and the wait is long. Leaves you bored while seeing your girl is taken by somebody else. Perhaps you can do a Bored Jerk while waiting. That way you may even save some of the high expences involved with Oase nowadays.[/QUOTE]I believe they need some logistic adjustment in the beginning.

Well you just need to time it right, either you should first in the queue or avoid rush hour in the restaurant.

Take a girl disappear for a while and come back for food later. No need to waste time in queuing.

[quote=syzygies; 1469063]you don't seem to see it at all. the rest of your comments are irrelevancies.

what 10 euros extra? i don't eat maccas, even if were free. i have no idea what their prices are.

i will pay to eat something extra if the standard and speed warrants it. i don't usually dine in restaurants unless they have really special food and not often. otherwise i prefer to make my own.

the food at oase doesn't matter. i will go there for sex. food is not going to be a big issue in my thinking. if food mattered, i would have quit oase long ago.

each guy can choose for himself what he wants to do with regard to the restaurant. i suspect i won't be using their services in a big way. nille, you do what you want to do. i won't go telling you what to do or what you should like.[/quote]syzygies, why are we having this conversation, as the food and club facilities are irreverent for you, you pay happily 70€ to enter oase and fuck the girls. fine with me. you don't eat their food because it's bad (you could bring your own homemade lunchbox). then you don't have to pay for any extra food, if oases meal is irrelevant for you. money saved! actually you have lost 10€ for not eating their food, you could donate your oases meal to the girls or some poor hungry guys that can't effort to pay 10€ extra for extra meal. (everybody has 1 meal included in the entrance fee)

i didn't tell you want to do, i was just wondering on one hand, you get food allowance from your company, you economize food allowance and save the money for the girls by cooking yourself. on the other hand you are willing to pay 70€ each week to enter oase, you could visit alternative places and save the 70€ entrance fee. i do understand you are fond of the girls at oase, that is the reason why you keep coming back.

yes every man his way. i totally agree syzygies, over and out.

cheer,

nc

[QUOTE=Pistons;1469039]Rumor has it the portions are small and the wait is long. Leaves you bored while seeing your girl is taken by somebody else. .[/QUOTE]Obviously the sensible time to order is immediately after a sex session, during your recovery period. If you are superman and need no recuperate time, then that is a problem.

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1469224]Money saved! Actually you have lost 10€ for not eating their food, you could donate your Oases meal to the girls or some poor hungry guys that can't effort to pay 10€ extra for extra meal. (everybody has 1 meal included in the entrance fee)

I didn't tell you want to do, I was just wondering on one hand, you get food allowance from your company, you economize food allowance and save the money for the girls by cooking yourself. On the other hand you are willing to pay 70€ each week to enter Oase, you could visit alternative places and save the 70€ entrance fee. I do understand you are fond of the girls at Oase, that is the reason why you keep coming back.[/QUOTE]Good point by NC. But better to donate to the girls (your favourites) as a little investment. Hopefully you will get it back in the room. A little generosity goes a long way.

I might follow NC advice if I do feel that the food is not worth it. Have big lunch. And bring in protein bars or weight watchers food while I am there as I am trying to lose some 20 kg now.

To east going awesome honest report. I have sessioned with vanessa / montana from romania and I believe it is the same person. So far I have got good service from her_first few times were bad but I enjoy to see my body on her fair white skin in the mirror not to mention the hard pounding she can take from a BBC) but my time with her is minimum 1 hour and just for everyone's info she has told me 30 minutes session is not worth to her as time taken to talk with customer, take shower and etc takes at least 30 minutes so basically a 30 minute session is no return investment on her part. I was planning to see her but after reading your report I think I will not! I don't condone such behaviour from a WG and I think your actions were well justified!

Hopefully she learn her lesson and not try to cheat other punters! If a wg agrees to 3o minute then deliver the service promised without the bullshit.

EG. Yes some Romanian girls do have a rude attitude! At my time at palace, sharks and oase I think mostly rude behaviours and encounters were mostly from Romanian. Heck I think all are from Romanian girls!

Wrong guys.

The simple answer is not to return to Oase unless policy changes!

The weather was bad in the morning so I did not arrive at the club until about 1 pm. By then it was warm enough to sit outside and gradually more and more people ventured into the hazy sunlight. Unfortunately I began to wonder what I was doing at the club as I just saw the same old Romanian faces appearing (and I also went inside the club to search but found no different). What has happened to the girls I saw a couple of years ago when I started to come to this club? Then there were plenty of pretty German girls (e. G. Tessa and Charlene) as well as Slovakian and Polish maidens. Now just one nationality predominates and these are nearly all full time girls unlike the part-timers who used to be here.

Anyway, I decided to wait until the later shift arrived to see if any talent appeared. At about 5pm I was inside the club when this very pretty girl arrived opposite. She had shoulder length wavy brown hair, a flower pinned in it, and looked like the young Shirley MacLaine but with a curvier figure. She also had a tattoo of an eye on her left shoulderblade, making her easy to spot from behind. She smiled at me and soon we were off to a nice well ventilated room (number 8). We ended up staying five and a half hours, such were the talents of Paulina, this Romanian 21 year old. If you spot her take her immediately as she is popular and has, after only a month in the club, built up a regular following. As soon as I relinquished her and she had tidied herself up she was taken again after only sitting down for a few seconds. She may not be around long. Apart from her I did not spot much talent apart from one girl I had been with before who is also very popular and disappears as soon as she arrives in the club for the evening shift.

I have had he pizza twice now (always Napoletana) and there has never been a long wait so this problem has been ironed out.

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1469224]Syzygies, Why are we having this conversation, as the food and club facilities are irreverent for you, you pay happily 70€ to enter Oase and fuck the girls. Fine with me. You don't eat their food because it's bad (you could bring your NC[/QUOTE]Instead of telling us about your own experiences and preference, you keeping trying to tell me what I want to do. This is completely wrong and foolish.

[QUOTE=Amriptna111;1469357]I might follow NC advice if I do feel that the food is not worth it. Have big lunch. And bring in protein bars or weight watchers food while I am there as I am trying to lose some 20 kg now.[/QUOTE]I have some basic advice based on how I lost 14 Kg. (enough for me). Don't eat too much in restaurants. You won't know what they put in the food. I cook my own food mostly so I am in control as use raw ingredients, not stuff out of a can or box.

Don't worry about fat intake at all. It doesn't matter. The body does not process it that efficiently.

Do not eat anything containing added sugar. No coke, cakes, biscuits, ketchup, many refined foods. Check total sugar content on labels.

Also no syrup, honey, etc. Minimise alcohol. Drink water or unsweetened drinks. Or use zero calorie "Stevia" based artificial sweetener to sweeten drinks or any food that is too sour. Don't drink fruit juice (its high sugar). Eat moderate amounts of fruit. Some fruits are high in sugar. Apples are good. Berries are good. 1 banana only.

Don't eat white rice, potato, french fries, (or any high glycaemic high starch type foods). If eating grain type foods, make it whole grain and not too much. Cooked rolled oats for breakfast are good. I don't eat much bread, noodles, pasta, pizza, wheat or rice, etc. Conservative amounts are okay.

Patience. It may take 10 months to lose the 20 Kgs. In a healthy way.

Eat plenty of green vegs, salad, non-starchy vegs, fish, meats (not too large). If want dessert, make it yourself, e. G. Very low sugar yogurt with fresh fruit added like strawberries, raspberries, etc.

Eat rather conservative sized meals. Total food quantity does matter. Simply once you are not eating enough carbohydrates to cover your full energy needs, the body must start gradually utilising the fat stores, and you will lose weight. Lots of extra exercise is not really necessary. Its easier to just not eat the bad stuff. When you reach your target, you can start to add a little more carbohydrates back, but realise it is your new eating regime for life. In the end you can be in good trimmer shape than 95% of FKK customers (apart from the ones that have always been skinny) and look younger. Weigh yourself regularly, like every morning before breakfast. Allow for variation up and down but should lose at least 1 Kg. in the first week, once your eating behaviour is good.

Your sex experience will improve a lot and you don't have to huff and puff after extended sex.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1469497]I have some basic advice based on how I lost 14 Kg. (enough for me). Don't eat too much in restaurants. You won't know what they put in the food. I cook my own food mostly so I am in control as use raw ingredients, not stuff out of a can or box.

Don't worry about fat intake at all. It doesn't matter. The body does not process it that efficiently.

Do not eat anything containing added sugar. No coke, cakes, biscuits, ketchup, many refined foods. Check total sugar content on labels.

Also no syrup, honey, etc. Minimise alcohol. Drink water or unsweetened drinks. Or use zero calorie "Stevia" based artificial sweetener to sweeten drinks or any food that is too sour. Don't drink fruit juice (its high sugar). Eat moderate amounts of fruit. Some fruits are high in sugar. Apples are good. Berries are good. 1 banana only.

Don't eat white rice, potato, french fries, (or any high glycaemic high starch type foods). If eating grain type foods, make it whole grain and not too much. Cooked rolled oats for breakfast are good. I don't eat much bread, noodles, pasta, pizza, wheat or rice, etc. Conservative amounts are okay.

Patience. It may take 10 months to lose the 20 Kgs. In a healthy way.

Eat plenty of green vegs, salad, non-starchy vegs, fish, meats (not too large). If want dessert, make it yourself, e. G. Very low sugar yogurt with fresh fruit added like strawberries, raspberries, etc.

Eat rather conservative sized meals. Total food quantity does matter. Simply once you are not eating enough carbohydrates to cover your full energy needs, the body must start gradually utilising the fat stores, and you will lose weight. Lots of extra exercise is not really necessary. Its easier to just not eat the bad stuff. When you reach your target, you can start to add a little more carbohydrates back, but realise it is your new eating regime for life. In the end you can be in good trimmer shape than 95% of FKK customers (apart from the ones that have always been skinny) and look younger. Weigh yourself regularly, like every morning before breakfast. Allow for variation up and down but should lose at least 1 Kg. In the first week, once your eating behaviour is good.

Your sex experience will improve a lot and you don't have to huff and puff after extended sex.[/QUOTE]Good advice Syzygies.

OR. Just fuck more often for exercise. .

FiddyCent

[QUOTE=Amriptna111;1469357]I have sessioned with vanessa / montana from romania and I believe it is the same person. So far I have got good service from her_first few times were bad but I enjoy to see my body on her fair white skin in the mirror not to mention the hard pounding she can take from a BBC) but my time with her is minimum 1 hour and just for everyone's info she has told me 30 minutes session is not worth to her as time taken to talk with customer, take shower and etc takes at least 30 minutes so basically a 30 minute session is no return investment on her part.[/QUOTE]Neurosmith told me I was a racist for talking about BBCs and big black pussy, teaching me that black cocks are not bigger than white man's LOL. Apparently those porn movies with giant black cocks are not representative of the norm. I am not too sure I believe 100%. Black pussy can be just as tight as white pussy too. Diana is rather too small for me and Suzanne very tight also. Both of them do BBBJs that are not soft enough for me, so that is the actual game breaker.

Like you I seem to be getting great service out of some girls that are considered a bit suspect, because I really only take 30 min sessions if the session is not up to standard, or activities were a bit restricted. Only ever happened once at the Palace, that I blew my load into a Polish girl after 15 to 20 mins doing doggy, and I was totally stunned. How did she manage that? Exceptional pussy. Girls like me, because they know I am taking longer sessions and are parting with significantly more than a fifty, and also varied activities means they don't get pounded for the entire time. Generally, they like the soft slow screw rather than the pounding, I think. I reckon they might watch guys handing over the money too. They may become aware which guys only hand over 50 all the time.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent; 1469503]Good advice Syzygies.

OR. Just fuck more often for exercise. .

FiddyCent[/QUOTE]Yes more sex by all means, but don't kid yourself that more exercise is going to make someone lose 20 Kg. quickly. No one can fuck all day I think, except for "Samson" (not real name) the Sihk superman at Oase, who I use to observe taking successive girl sessions with little break at all. Exercise is burning far too few calories for too short a time. It takes a lot of exercise to burn up the sugar in just one glass of coke. Food control is the key. Cut the very high energy supplying food.

[QUOTE=Amriptna111;1469357]To east going awesome honest report. I have sessioned with vanessa / montana from romania and I believe it is the same person.[/QUOTE]Maybe EG can confirm whether it actually is the same person. EG described his Vanessa as a short petite blonde. There was a new woman short petite blonde there last month who introduced herself to me as Vanessa. The older Vanessa / Montana via Madrid was also there. She has very large brown eyes, not at all short, and hair was darkish blonde or almost brunette. 2 years ago, Vanessa / Montana insisted a 1 hour session was 2 hours long. I have avoided her since that squabble.

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1469423]Now just one nationality predominates and these are nearly all full time girls unlike the part-timers who used to be here.[/QUOTE]Do you mean Romanians?

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1469423]She had shoulder length wavy brown hair, a flower pinned in it, and looked like the young Shirley MacLaine but with a curvier figure. She also had a tattoo of an eye on her left shoulderblade, making her easy to spot from behind. She smiled at me and soon we were off to a nice well ventilated room (number 8). We ended up staying five and a half hours, such were the talents of Paulina, this Romanian 21 year old.[/QUOTE]Did you pay Paulina 550 euro for the five and a half hours or did you negotiate a discount rate as a bulk deal since you are a regular man that takes girls for long periods?

I ask since there are some girls reported asking for 20 euro for a standard session or 35 euro for a standard session as they are no getting customers.

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1469423]I have had he pizza twice now (always Napoletana) and there has never been a long wait so this problem has been ironed out.[/QUOTE]Do you mean authentic Neapolitan pizzas that are typically made with tomatoes, basil leaves and Mozzarella cheese elements of red, green and white?

There was a Palace girl, slim, blonde, perfect natural B cups, pretty looks, flawless skin, unblemished by any tattoos, much beloved as seen by her reports on the Palace thread for her combination of attractive physical features and good service. It was coming to the summer period and the Palace was devoid of customers as the Messe season was ended and would no start again until Tendence Messe at the end of August and really does no kick off until IAA in mid September. Many customers were abandoning the inner Frankfurt clubs for the clubs with gardens like Oase, Sharks and World.

So this girl goes to Oase to work since it is closer to her accommodation arrangements in Frankfurt. The end result is she stays 3 days in the Oase only.

For Palace she gives great service, she kisses with tongue, suck the penis nicely and licks the balls, she fucks in as many positions as the man can manage and she has good looks, young and would look pleasant on any man's arm if out in public. For some reason she gets 3-4 complaints from customers to her directly on her poor service or lack of offering or both.

As mentioned before in my note to London Traveller below, she sees the girls that offer to customers services for 20 euro for half hour and offer much more in terms of extra for the same standard price rather than as extras. She also see the Oase girls that ask for 50 euro extra for small things like ball licking. It is hard to reconcile. This Palace girl doing her stint at Oase says she can no compete and has returned to the Palace after her summer holiday.

I only find this interesting in that this girl, for me at least, gives good service at the 50 euro level at Palace and if that same service was given at Oase too, I would be more than pleased. Also noting her rave reviews from the Palace thread too from members.

Dear fellas,

The apologies were part of my long debated writing style, partly ironic, partly ambiguous, partly to be read through the lines, basically mostly sincere.

I wish to thank Happy FKK and Amriptna111, for sharing and supporting my reports, and Myrrh, bewitched by the bullshit of emotional insights I recently garnish my reports with, but I would like to clarify that I wasn't offended by different opinions. Everybody is entitled to their ones, we are ghosts writing in an online forum, so our lives are not going to change out of what is written here. I just expected a different feedback, some sort of "solidarity", appreciation if not thanks for signalizing a terrible shark and a somehow smaller one. Those were facts and not opinions. Points of view of newbies can be different from those of regulars, pratically "pros", which are obviously a little minority, compared to the majority of lurkers or punters who never went to these places or rarely did or do, like me. So I knew what I wrote had a value, but what I got back was comments on how I was writing, debates on my english, my writing style, investigations about a shower, considerations that made me look guilty and responsible for the absurd absolute shit I got, etc. Also exposed in a way which sounded quite unfair to me, maybe I just perceived it wrong, like in CD's case (allright, mate, no problem, thanks). Nothing against Syz, whose all advices made sense, it's just that I felt under attack: not only cheated and robbed out of a dedicated trip, but also not understood and even criticized by those who should have been by my side, if not else because I was reporting what I came across in everybody's interest! Purpose of this forum!

This said, another merit I claim to my posts is that I mentioned names! I scrolled a few pages and couldn't find one, actually I found a discussion about forumers not posting names! On purpose and to make a spite to other fellas!

And now, as Myrrh pointed out, the thread has turned into a would-be gourmets' one, not seeming anymore part of a mongers' site. Does ISG stand for something like "International Sponsored Gourmets"? Anything to do with the Michelin Guide?

Cheers (in all senses, LOL!)

Dude, what 'solidarity'? We aren't in the US, where any punter is at risk of being arrested and (from what I hear) being scammed is a regular occurrence.

We're all fat, old men that get to fuck young Eastern European girls, for the simple reason that they don't have any other way of making some money (if they chose this work themselves that is). Sure, some girls are less than brilliant and might even try to make some money the 'easy' way; that doesn't mean we should treat them the way you did. Pay the fricking 50E and move on, it can happen to all of us. Your writings indicate you behave like a giant douche in the clubs and that really doesn't make me feel sorry for you.

Maybe a small hint, often it's other guys in the clubs that can spoil the day for you; if someone like that gets shafted, it is a big smile on my face.

I'd also venture to say that anyone who thinks Arabella is the pinnacle of clubbing, is not offering valuable information for anyone. Wasn't planning on getting involved, but since you asked and all.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;1469541]Maybe EG can confirm whether it actually is the same person. EG described his Vanessa as a short petite blonde. There was a new woman short petite blonde there last month who introduced herself to me as Vanessa. The older Vanessa / Montana via Madrid was also there. She has very large brown eyes, not at all short, and hair was darkish blonde or almost brunette. 2 years ago, Vanessa / Montana insisted a 1 hour session was 2 hours long. I have avoided her since that squabble.[/QUOTE]Yes the young pretty light blonde Vanessa with great ass is relatively new (like this year) and Romanian I think. Shortish. Was intending to try but did not get around to it.

Vanessa has a history in Dolce Vita Dusseldorf, which usually isn't the best advertisement. In the room she can be reasonably good, but I suspect she might be better if you respond to her upsell. I definitely had the feeling her enthousiasm dropped when I said half an hour would do.

[QUOTE=Yakob; 1469548]I ask since there are some girls reported asking for 20 euro for a standard session or 35 euro for a standard session as they are no getting customers.

Do you mean authentic Neapolitan pizzas that are typically made with tomatoes, basil leaves and Mozzarella cheese elements of red, green and white?[/QUOTE]Nobody offered me a session for 20 euros! As for the pizza issue. There is a selection of pizzas at the club now, the Napolitana, to my best recollection (I have had it twice) has olives, mozzarella, tomato, capers and anchovies. Not sure about the basil! I am warming towards the restaurant a bit now, even with the mingy 10 euro credit. Both times I have been in it I have had dinner with a girl (once I was paying for her company and the other time not) and that is quite fun. Although it was possible before, now with the waiter service it is a more civilized experience (although it would be even better if the waiter came to the table to take the order). Now, if only they could turn down that awful Italian music they are playing.

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1469765]Both times I have been in it I have had dinner with a girl (once I was paying for her company and the other time not) and that is quite fun.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify you mean you paid for her dinner plus time for her company as well?

[QUOTE=Yakob;1469553]I only find this interesting in that this girl, for me at least, gives good service at the 50 euro level at Palace and if that same service was given at Oase too, I would be more than pleased. Also noting her rave reviews from the Palace thread too from members.[/QUOTE]As you don't name her, it reads like a fairy tale. I think the levels of competition are a bit stronger at Oase.

However some girls are making more money at Oase than they could make at World.

If your girl was as good as you say, she would clearly stand out from the rest at Palace but maybe not at Oase. Oase has a different mix of body types.

I don't see why any unusual pricing practices needed to affect her at all. I can't see myself takin uglier girls for 20 or 35 unless I really like them so this rumour seems irrelevant. Are the 20 girls stealing all the business? Sounds funny. Weird things can happen. Years ago one girl was so bored, she offered me a freebie, after I had stopped booking her any more, and I did not take it. Was waiting for a super hottie at the time.

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1468965]At Villa Vertigo food and soft drinks are free, you only pay for alcohol, beer and Redbulls.[/QUOTE]The draft beer is free at VV.

Hi,

Maybe they tell you when you first go in but to whats extent is sex practiced (or allowed) in the main areas. For example can you received a blowjob when sat at the bar with a beer? Or is it restricted to the cinema?

Whats are the rules?

Thanks.

LH.

Ps Off to Oase next week for first time.

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1470165]Hi,

Maybe they tell you when you first go in but to whats extent is sex practiced (or allowed) in the main areas. For example can you received a blowjob when sat at the bar with a beer? Or is it restricted to the cinema?

Whats are the rules?

Thanks.

LH.

Ps Off to Oase next week for first time.[/QUOTE]BJ or even sex in the public room / bar (even outside the kino) used to be common practice, of course depending on the girl (Anna was very good at it!) but I am afraid this is less and less common since the new layout. Will check it out very soon how it is now.

[QUOTE=Maxime;1470169]BJ or even sex in the public room / bar (even outside the kino) used to be common practice, of course depending on the girl (Anna was very good at it!) but I am afraid this is less and less common since the new layout. Will check it out very soon how it is now.[/QUOTE]You can get public sex in the garden as well, the wall between the main lounge and the kino is gone now, which makes the kino very open. I used to have public sex in the kino, but now it's too open to my taste.

How is Oase on a Thursday, from say 1 pm to 20 pm?

And how would it compare to Mainhattan those hours that day?

[QUOTE=MrAdams; 1470468]How is Oase on a Thursday, from say 1 pm to 20 pm?

And how would it compare to Mainhattan those hours that day?[/QUOTE]Thursday is the day when the girls are dressed in bikinis or underwear, instead of being naked. For me it changes the atmosphere completely, I like the girls to be naked, so I avoid Thursdays (done it just once). Others of course like it when the girls are wearing more.

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1469765]Nobody offered me a session for 20 euros![/QUOTE]I do not get offered sessions for 20 euro and nor do I get anal included in a 50 euro session. But you can sometimes hear or hear of the Italian customers negotiating with girls or asking each girl in turn whether they will do a session of such amounts. As the sales person knows if you ask enough times you may just strike on who does agree. Not my style.

[QUOTE=Yakob; 1469553]There was a Palace girl, slim, blonde, perfect natural B cups, pretty looks, flawless skin, unblemished by any tattoos, much beloved as seen by her reports on the Palace thread for her combination of attractive physical features and good service. It was coming to the summer period and the Palace was devoid of customers as the Messe season was ended and would no start again until Tendence Messe at the end of August and really does no kick off until IAA in mid September. Many customers were abandoning the inner Frankfurt clubs for the clubs with gardens like Oase, Sharks and World.

So this girl goes to Oase to work since it is closer to her accommodation arrangements in Frankfurt. The end result is she stays 3 days in the Oase only.

For Palace she gives great service, she kisses with tongue, suck the penis nicely and licks the balls, she fucks in as many positions as the man can manage and she has good looks, young and would look pleasant on any man's arm if out in public. For some reason she gets 3-4 complaints from customers to her directly on her poor service or lack of offering or both.

As mentioned before in my note to London Traveller below, she sees the girls that offer to customers services for 20 euro for half hour and offer much more in terms of extra for the same standard price rather than as extras. She also see the Oase girls that ask for 50 euro extra for small things like ball licking. It is hard to reconcile. This Palace girl doing her stint at Oase says she can no compete and has returned to the Palace after her summer holiday.

I only find this interesting in that this girl, for me at least, gives good service at the 50 euro level at Palace and if that same service was given at Oase too, I would be more than pleased. Also noting her rave reviews from the Palace thread too from members.[/QUOTE]Because Syzygies asked. This girl is Annabella the blonde Romanian.

[QUOTE=Masayama;1467573]So when you eat for more than € 10, how is the payment done? Cash in the restaurant? When you're leaving the club? Or do you have to buy vouchers / tokens in the reception?[/QUOTE]You buy casino chips at Reception and then give the casino chips to the restaurant when you place your order. Really inconvenient because you have to first go to the restaurant, decide what you want, then go all the way to Reception (where there might be a long line) , buy the damn chips, then haul your ass all the way to the restaurant to order your meal.

Other clubs use a much more convenient chip system. You just order what you want, they scan your chip, then you pay on the way out.

One more criticism: When you place your order, they don't write down your key number. So, when a margarita pizza comes out and the server is trying to find the guy who ordered the Margarita pizza, it's entirely possible that your pizza could go to another customer who ordered the same thing, but well after you placed your order. At Magnum, they write down your locker number so there's no confusion about who ordered what.

Also, the Romanian menu is discontinued because they fired the head chef over a disagreement. So, they only have the Italian and German menus remaining. Also, the menus are much more simplified than they were on the first day. Hopefully that will result in a quicker turnaround of dishes.

I would hate to see this restaurant in operation during a real Messe. They are not scaled for anything but a quiet day at Oase. Each dish is prepared individually when you order it. They should know that a ton of people are going to order the Spaghetti Bolognese and prepare a huge vat of that stuff so they can serve people quickly when they order it.

Also, even when they have the BBQ buffet out, you still have to give up an armband for it when eating from the buffet used to be totally free. I would add that the breakfast is much improved over the previous cold breakfast offerings. They were actually serving some sort of egg-scramble-hash thing the one day I got there early enough to witness the breakfast offerings.

All in all, I give the restaurant a big thumbs down. Now, we have to wait for our food. Who has time for this when we've got girls to play with? Their logistics are just not well thought out at the restaurant. And, if we want to eat more than once, we have to pay more (above and beyond the increased entrance fee). That being said the food quality of the restaurant isn't bad.

It's totally shitty that the girls are not allowed to order out. Plus, on top of that, during the last club meeting, Mauro announced that the girls would have to supply their own paper towels as the club was no longer going to supply these. Mauro is upset about having to spend 6000 Euros a year on paper towels. He accuses the girls of using too many paper towels. Really? Seriously? When are the injustices going to stop here?

The whole restaurant implementation is flawed, and I give it a big "Not Like."

[QUOTE=Yakob;1470701]Because Syzygies asked. This girl is Annabella the blonde Romanian.[/QUOTE]For Syzygies, here are some pictures of her. She really is quite a good sex provider in the room and quite pretty too. You can see her reports in the Palace thread.

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy;1470713]Also, even when they have the BBQ buffet out, you still have to give up an armband for it when eating from the buffet used to be totally free. I would add that the breakfast is much improved over the previous cold breakfast offerings. They were actually serving some sort of egg-scramble-hash thing the one day I got there early enough to witness the breakfast offerings.[/QUOTE]At least the buffet choice is still there. Perhaps better than running out of food. Okay giving up the armband means you get this just once for free.

The paper towels is exciting. Sorry, just stirring. I see it just shows the general wish for Mauro to find other ways to make more money since the extensions are costing a lot. He could have done things more simple like: improve the food standard, improve the room air flow, improve cleaning of rooms, add more rooms. Then simply try to attract the best girls by offering the best conditions and sensible rules. The better the girls, the more the customers. The more the customers, the more of everything else.

There is only one thing keeping me regular at Oase. Having the greatest number of very superior girl options. Introducing new difficulties that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] them off, is surely not the best way to go about this.

[QUOTE=Yakob;1470772]For Syzygies, here are some pictures of her. She really is quite a good sex provider in the room and quite pretty too. You can see her reports in the Palace thread.[/QUOTE]Well I can certainly see she has a good body. However I am a face man, so the pics mean little to me with no face, and yes I understand you cannot show that. Anyway, maybe I will meet her next Palace trip, as there are rather few natural gazelles like this there these days that also have the right face for me.

There were free paper towels in all rooms. How should that work anyway? The girls carrying huge purses to hold the paper towels?

Pre-IAA line-up was great. Over 100 girls:

Oana, Ro.

Alexia, Ro.

Yasmin, Ro.

Daria, Ro.

Inna, Lv.

Steffi, Ru.

Tina, D.

Jill, D.

Ada, Pl.

Victoria, Pl.

Louisa, Mar.

May, Th.

Jamilla, Cuba.

Corinna, Ro.

Angelina, Ro.

Monica, Bu.

Sunny, D.

Sara, Ro.

Sandra, Ro.

Amelia, Ro.

Samantha, Ro.

Krina, Ro.

Emma, Ro.

Helena, Ro.

Francesca, Ro.

Ralucca, Ro.

Jeanette, Hu.

Lucia, Ro.

Erica / Carla, Ro.

Julia, Ro.

Juicy, I.

Marcella, Pl.

Alexa, Ro.

Ambra, Ro.

Gloria, Ro.

Alexandra, Ro.

Cindy, Nig.

Ana, Ro.

Anca, Ro.

Diana, Ro.

Anka, Ro.

HB

Yes, the buffet choice is still there, but only the first 6 pm serving. Once that buffet runs out, that's it. No more 9 pm second buffet serving will appear anymore now that the new restaurant is open. In other words, you only have a max 3 hour window to enjoy the buffet. Also, you still have to give up an armband for taking from the buffet. Even if you arrive at the buffet near the end when everything is almost gone and there's just two sausages left, they will still insist on taking your armband for just one or two sausages.

One of the advantages of the previous system was that we could grab just a little food here and there throughout the night. One sausage here, a little pasta later, and so on. Now, you have to wait until you're hungry enough to eat an entire meal and time things right. Which can often inconvenience plans with girls who happen to be available at the moment.

As for the paper towels, Mauro said in the last meeting that this change would be effective Tuesday (yesterday). I have no idea how this would work. I had the same question as HB. Are the girls supposed to carry around huge purses? One of the girls told me that the girls would just have to use their little wipes. Also, Mauro says that they will be conducting purse inspections to make sure the girls have all 4 necessities to get on the floor: (1) condoms (2) gel / lube (3) wipes and (4) oil. I never knew that they were supposed to be carrying around rubbing / massage oil in their purses. This is just what was reported to me by one girl. Maybe the paper towel thing is just an empty threat to encourage them to use less paper towels? Seems over the top to me.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1470983]There were free paper towels in all rooms. How should that work anyway? The girls carrying huge purses to hold the paper towels?

Pre-IAA line-up was great. Over 100 girls:

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HB[/QUOTE]Thanks for the effort to give us some of the more important choices from the "a la carte" menu.

Any idea if Lavinia is back?

I am planning a visit for Saturday, I wonder if it wil be very busy with the IAA.

PS trying to look at the board to see if there is any new talent I should note down for my visit, but it's difficult to find info on girls among all the food-related info. I mean I like my food but as others stated before I do not go to Oase for food.

Thanks HB for the extensive list.

[QUOTE=Alchemist7744; 1471365]Any idea if Lavinia is back?

I am planning a visit for Saturday, I wonder if it wil be very busy with the IAA.[/QUOTE]I guess it will be very busy. Lavinia wasn't back yesterday.

HB

[QUOTE=Alchemist7744; 1471365]Any idea if Lavinia is back?

I am planning a visit for Saturday, I wonder if it wil be very busy with the IAA.[/QUOTE]Lavinia probably should be back by now or very soon. I will probably check with her in about a week and post if I know something.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1471398]I guess it will be very busy. Lavinia wasn't back yesterday.

HB[/QUOTE]Well, it will change me from the last couple of times in June when it was quite empty. Just hope the queue for the rooms is not too bad.

And thanks to both Hessen Bub and Syzigies for the info

As a regular visitor of Oase, I had not such a good feeling of the changing atmosphere last time, but I hoped things would improve if the new layout, re-decorating, etc has settled in a little. Since I visited several other clubs in the mean time, I was interested to see how things worked out and are in comparison.

The good news is the renovation is really almost complete now. Only the Wintergarden (on the place of the large sauna) is not finished yet, but it will be a matter of weeks. Everything looks and smells (!) good, also downstairs in the men's locker room (which looks twice as big).

More good news is that Oase still has the best (looking) porno line-up of Germany! .

Great looking girls, especially between 17-22 during the "double shift". More impressive looking line-up than Golden Time, World, Sharks, Samya, Acapulco etc.

It is real pity however, that the main focus of Oase is now on the "outside" (so good looking rooms, girls, showers, etc). It really lacks in the intimate interaction between the girls and the guys. Less than a year ago, it was very common to have extensive foreplay in the bar, kino, etc, but now most girls don't want to do it nay more (I did see a total of 3 oral actions in the kino during whole day / night, where this used to be a continuous event!).

Of course there is more possibilities if you know some of the girls (happily I still do) , but even even for experienced punters, there is less and less pre-room interaction, so no way to check to chemistry with new girls at forehand (which used to be common). Also there are less and less "service stunners" as we used to know (like Lavinia, who was not there, and Krina, who happily was there, with 10 kilo less she looked better than ever!). Also some known girls decreased their service, as is already discussed in this thread (Amalia, Montana, etc, etc.) and girls like Maria (RO. 22) do their thing, but are totally uninterested / not motivated / not willing / etc at all.

Most of the girls are stressed (more than before) and have an attitude and ego that might match their looks, but do not match their service skills in any way! It seems time Mauro gives again one of his famous Quarterly briefings to the girls, how to behave and treat paying customers, but maybe he did not have time (or care) because "the big renovation would solve all problems". A real pity.

About the new "dining rules" is already enough said. Of course everything is better than the crap they served before, so let's start to say it is a real improvement for sure. That they increased the price from 65 to 70 euro, is also ok, but that you can only eat one time (either breakfast OR buffet OR grill (outside) OR something from menu (10 euro value, after 17:00) is something that will not last for long (you get one extra wristband, which is taken in when you order food). All girls are obliged to work for at least 12 hours, and most men stay 10 hours or more, so at least two meals would be considered normal. Either increase the price little more, or make all before 17:00 for free. Now you have a complex ordering / paying / casino chip system, for prices that are high (compared to normal German restaurants) and NO possibility to order food outside anymore (BTW, the local pizzeria's will notice a drastic decrease of revenue for sure). The restaurant food (17:00-04:00) is not bad, and also waiting times are nornal (even during IAA times).

Biggest problem however with Oase is not the food (as said, it is much much better than before) , but the lack of / decreasing contact between the girls and the men. This contact is more cool and distant, and in combination with the (bad) attitude of most girls, this does not result in many sessions.

The girls who work somewhat longer in Oase notice this change of atmosphere too, and see many regular customers leave to other clubs (Sharks, World, etc). Focus seems more and more on (Italian / Asian / US / etc) tourists, and not to regulars. Pity, because see what happened to Palace this way.

Unbelievable and a real pity that the core values of Oase are diminished in less than a year. It already has its impact on the number of men, because with the line up of 80-100 (beautiful!) girls, there were less men, and it was quiet all day / night, even with IAA going on 25 minutes driving away!

I really hope Mauro (or somebody else) takes this serious, and can change the (service) attitude of the girls If not, Oase will fall-out my club top-10 of 2013 (it was top-3 in 2009-2011, and still top-5 in 2012).

A real pity, because Oase still has the best (looking) porn line-up in Germany!

[QUOTE=Maxime; 1472019]As a regular visitor of Oase, I had not such a good feeling of the changing atmosphere last time, but I hoped things would improve if the new layout, re-decorating, etc has settled in a little. Since I visited several other clubs in the mean time, I was interested to see how things worked out and are in comparison.

The good news is the renovation is really almost complete now. Only the Wintergarden (on the place of the large sauna) is not finished yet, but it will be a matter of weeks. Everything looks and smells (!) good, also downstairs in the men's locker room (which looks twice as big).

More good news is that Oase still has the best (looking) porno line-up of Germany! .

Great looking girls, especially between 17-22 during the "double shift". More impressive looking line-up than Golden Time, World, Sharks, Samya, Acapulco etc.

It is real pity however, that the main focus of Oase is now on the "outside" (so good looking rooms, girls, showers, etc). It really lacks in the intimate interaction between the girls and the guys. Less than a year ago, it was very common to have extensive foreplay in the bar, kino, etc, but now most girls don't want to do it nay more (I did see a total of 3 oral actions in the kino during whole day / night, where this used to be a continuous event!).

Of course there is more possibilities if you know some of the girls (happily I still do) , but even even for experienced punters, there is less and less pre-room interaction, so no way to check to chemistry with new girls at forehand (which used to be common). Also there are less and less "service stunners" as we used to know (like Lavinia, who was not there, and Krina, who happily was there, with 10 kilo less she looked better than ever!). Also some known girls decreased their service, as is already discussed in this thread (Amalia, Montana, etc, etc.) and girls like Maria (RO. 22) do their thing, but are totally uninterested / not motivated / not willing / etc at all.

Most of the girls are stressed (more than before) and have an attitude and ego that might match their looks, but do not match their service skills in any way! It seems time Mauro gives again one of his famous Quarterly briefings to the girls, how to behave and treat paying customers, but maybe he did not have time (or care) because "the big renovation would solve all problems". A real pity.

About the new "dining rules" is already enough said. Of course everything is better than the crap they served before, so let's start to say it is a real improvement for sure. That they increased the price from 65 to 70 euro, is also ok, but that you can only eat one time (either breakfast OR buffet OR grill (outside) OR something from menu (10 euro value, after 17:00) is something that will not last for long (you get one extra wristband, which is taken in when you order food). All girls are obliged to work for at least 12 hours, and most men stay 10 hours or more, so at least two meals would be considered normal. Either increase the price little more, or make all before 17:00 for free. Now you have a complex ordering / paying / casino chip system, for prices that are high (compared to normal German restaurants) and NO possibility to order food outside anymore (BTW, the local pizzeria's will notice a drastic decrease of revenue for sure). The restaurant food (17:00-04:00) is not bad, and also waiting times are nornal (even during IAA times).

Biggest problem however with Oase is not the food (as said, it is much much better than before) , but the lack of / decreasing contact between the girls and the men. This contact is more cool and distant, and in combination with the (bad) attitude of most girls, this does not result in many sessions.

The girls who work somewhat longer in Oase notice this change of atmosphere too, and see many regular customers leave to other clubs (Sharks, World, etc). Focus seems more and more on (Italian / Asian / US / etc) tourists, and not to regulars. Pity, because see what happened to Palace this way.

Unbelievable and a real pity that the core values of Oase are diminished in less than a year. It already has its impact on the number of men, because with the line up of 80-100 (beautiful!) girls, there were less men, and it was quiet all day / night, even with IAA going on 25 minutes driving away!

I really hope Mauro (or somebody else) takes this serious, and can change the (service) attitude of the girls If not, Oase will fall-out my club top-10 of 2013 (it was top-3 in 2009-2011, and still top-5 in 2012).

A real pity, because Oase still has the best (looking) porn line-up in Germany![/QUOTE]Was at Oase on Friday and got the same feeling. Was at Shark on Wedensday and I feel there was more possibility to small talk with the girls at Shark.

[QUOTE=Maxime;1472019]Also some known girls decreased their service, as is already discussed in this thread (Amalia, Montana, etc, etc.) and girls like Maria (RO. 22) do their thing, but are totally uninterested / not motivated / not willing / etc at all.[/QUOTE]Seems likely you meant "Amelia" rather than Amalia. Amalia is very white skinned magnificent large B / small C cups 30 year old Romanian / Macedonian nurse and Amelia is tall darker skinned slightly curly haired small saggy tits girl. Amalia gives me great service with nothing decreased at all.

[QUOTE=Gratass65;1472122]Was at Oase on Friday and got the same feeling. Was at Shark on Wedensday and I feel there was more possibility to small talk with the girls at Shark.[/QUOTE]Indeed, and it is a pity it was not an incident, but a decreasing trend in my last few visits, also noticed by other regulars and the girls.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1472247]Seems likely you meant "Amelia" rather than Amalia. Amalia is very white skinned magnificent large B / small C cups 30 year old Romanian / Macedonian nurse and Amelia is tall darker skinned slightly curly haired small saggy tits girl. Amalia gives me great service with nothing decreased at all.[/QUOTE]Indeed I ment Amelia, the darker skinned girl with curly hair.

This is a really late report that I am doing mostly from memory. I arrived at in the early afternoon and a majority of the girls were in the pool or around the pool area sunbathing. There didn't seem to be much action. It was probably about 32C that day. Inside I traded some intelligence with a guy who worked at a bank in Sweden. He says he also reads this forum from time to time, and his handle is his the town where his mother grew up. He said he had met Basketcase. And we both joked that I was secretly Szygies, because I mentioned something about Lavinia.

I'd say I am about the Hessen FKK clubs about 15-20 times a year. If I am there during the week and the day, I prefer Palace. If on a Friday or Saturday night, I go to Oase 75% of the time and World 25% of the time. So I'd say depending on the turnover, there are typically about five or so girls that I know and will say hello too me, and possibly a dozen or more so that recognize me.

On the day I tried a new girl who I believe was named Alexa or Alexia. She was from Romania, about 165cm, long brown hair to the bottom of the back. For a smaller framed girl, her breasts were extremely saggy, but I imagine they would look extremely lovely C / D cups in a bra. She said that she had only been in the club about a week after a short stint in Spain. She only hung around with one other girl, so the story made sense. Additionally, she was a little bit reluctant with the blow job. She seemed to stall, preferring foreplay instead (she kissed but no with the tongue). I finished doggy style watching her floppy breasts sway. She is a sweet girl, perhaps her service levels will improve on subsequent sessions, so repeat factor 60.

Based on a recommendation, I tried Kiana from Czech Republic. Several have written about her. I had trouble finishing. We tried multiple positions, and she exhibited some attitude. She finished me with her hand. She is a little bit thicker framed than I like, but not big at all, so repeat factor 10.

The last girl was Deborah, the redhead from Romania. I never sessioned with her, but I figured she might be more inclined to give me good service since I was relatively certain that she would recognize me as a semi-frequent customer. I was quite tired, so I decided to relax and have a 30 minute cum in mouth finish. Her BJ was serviceable. Cute girl, repeat factor 20.

[QUOTE=Maxime;1472019]Krina, who happily was there, with 10 kilo less she looked better than ever![/QUOTE]This is awesome news! Could somebody inquire about her planned schedule? What days she typically works and if there are any planned vacations in the next month? She typically finishes at about 10pm, correct? I probably won't bother to make the trek until after the IAA, but if I know she is there I may make an exception!

Ana / Lavinia is back from holidays.

HB

Huge lineup this Saturday, must have been well over 120 Girls with more arriving well into the night. Vast numbers but the room wait late at night increased as the night wore on. No room cleaning, lack of towels and no paper towels in room meant you fucked on other guys cum if you wanted to fuck after 10pm. Sums it up. Dirty. Nothing like dirty sex with hot women. I've had cleaner rooms at partytreffs. And putting the Girls Dressing room behind the new Restaurant is genious, get to see the Girls in full light. Saw Little barbie put on a towel to enter the Dressing room since it states you must be clothed to enter and then she would discard that towel into the bin after 2 minutes of use. Wonder how many other Girls are doing this. But the Pizza was very good and the new coffee machine was putting out some fantastic lattes. Anyone asking for a coffee out of those old dreadful machines should be shot.

On Saturday more than 150 girls (checked in) actually, but less Messe-men showed up as expected, some girls very nervous about this.

Yes the pizza is good and the Italian coffee is ok.

Yes Lavinia was back, fully booked.

A lot of reliable providers in my opinion are available, both Romanian and not.

Like Isabella, Polish girl very very sweet, or Chantal, fresh new doll face from Romania, professional service but very customer oriented.

Any intel on the big Russian girl friend of Sunny? She looks hot.

And what about the 2 Czech sisters?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1472694]But the Pizza was very good and the new coffee machine was putting out some fantastic lattes. Anyone asking for a coffee out of those old dreadful machines should be shot.[/QUOTE]The old lady staff member used to get annoyed by me as I always said I would only accept the double Espresso from the black Lavazza machine (which was slow). Agreed, the other old coffee machines were undrinkable, possibly using a very cheap brand of coffee too."Brewed iron filings" material.

I don't quite understand. Why would girls be required to be not naked entering their change room? This is FKK, right?

The general idea with beds has always been to lay out enough towels so that you are not fucking on top of other guys bed stains.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1472694]No room cleaning, lack of towels and no paper towels in room meant you fucked on other guys cum if you wanted to fuck after 10pm. Sums it up. Dirty. Nothing like dirty sex with hot women.[/QUOTE]Do they douche their pussies out after each guy has finished or do you get the chance to stir the porridge?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1472706]I don't quite understand. Why would girls be required to be not naked entering their change room?[/QUOTE]They have to walk through the restaurant, maybe that's why they have to be covered using a towel, hygiene reasons.

Stir the porridge? That would require BB and CIP.

HB

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1472706]I don't quite understand. Why would girls be required to be not naked entering their change room? This is FKK, right?[/QUOTE]The rule is that the girls have to be covered when passing through the restaurant. That is the rule. The rule is motivated by hygiene. Other clubs have this rule too. Apparently, some people believe it is not "clean" to have the girls uncovered in the restaurant.

I don't really see the sense in this rule though. The guys are perfectly welcome to have uncovered chests in the restaurant. Why the difference? Do guy breasts not have some germs that the girl breasts possess? So, somehow it is perfectly hygenic for my breasts to be exposed but not for the girls? Also, do people really think that germs are going to jump from a girl's pussy into someone's plate? So, when it comes down to it, it's just a perception thing. Anyways, there seem to be enough people with these ideas in their head that the rule makes sense to keep those folks happy. How can it be not hygenic in the restaurant but perfectly hygenic in the lounge where people are enjoying their drinks? Are food plates somehow susceptible to germs jumping from a girl's pussy in a way that drinks are not? None of this seems to make much sense to me, but I'm no expert on germs.

As for the lack of paper towels in the rooms, that's just shameful for an FKK to forego a simple basic like paper towels, especially with Oase's increased entrance price. Shameful. Shameful and cheap.

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy;1472997]I don't really see the sense in this rule though. The guys are perfectly welcome to have uncovered chests in the restaurant. Why the difference? Do guy breasts not have some germs that the girl breasts possess? So, somehow it is perfectly hygenic for my breasts to be exposed but not for the girls? Also, do people really think that germs are going to jump from a girl's pussy into someone's plate? So, when it comes down to it, it's just a perception thing.[/QUOTE]I have to agree. Its silly. The under arm stench of some guys comes from germs breeding in the oil glands beneath the outer skin but come out with the body oils being secreted. This is a difficult problem to fix, as washing the outside skin doesn't get rid of the bacteria inside. The smell of some guys is so strong it could put me off my food. Unfortunately my nose is very sensitive. I would have to move away a reasonable distance. Some guys have bad mouth odour too, so I cannot stand talking face to face too close. Compared to this, a completely nude girl passing through the restaurant would not bother me in the slightest. Crikey! I lick girls' pussies and assholes. Clearly I am not thinking they are bacteria laden, and yes the idea of any bacteria jumping on to my plate is absurd compared to direct sucking and licking for very long periods. I suppose at least I choose who I lick and would not do so if a girl was smelly.

I assure you that in real nudist holiday camps, no one is covering up to enter a food area, or in a restaurant. Okay I do understand the concept of towels protecting the seats and furniture from guys' potentially dirty asses, but there we are talking direct contact. Towels cannot protect us from all the bad smells.

Overall I believe that girls are far more careful with cleanliness than the guys are, on average. I see plenty of guys arrive at club and take no shower before going out to mingle with the girls, even though they have body odour. Personally, I would not risk it.

I recall the odd girl exception. One girl at Palace came over and climbed on top of me (originally I was considering her) , but her breath was so "rotten drain" like, that I had to turn my head away immediately, and never considered a session again. Slight smokers breath I can stand, as have got used to it a bit. I have had more than one GF who smoked.

I apologise for lack of specific girl reports for a few weeks, but surely all can be rectified when I return to Frankfurt this weekend, although I suppose will mostly take my regular girls.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;1472417]This is awesome news! Could somebody inquire about her planned schedule? What days she typically works and if there are any planned vacations in the next month? She typically finishes at about 10pm, correct? I probably won't bother to make the trek until after the IAA, but if I know she is there I may make an exception![/QUOTE]Krina indeed works from 10-22 normally. If you plan to meet her, don't wait too long.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1472456]Ana / Lavinia is back from holidays.

HB[/QUOTE]Good news, thanks!

[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1472701]And what about the 2 Czech sisters?[/QUOTE]Both very nice in the looks, but read report of MacAdonis and don't regret about not going to the room with them anymore. (tried to book them too, but where totally not interested, good example of some of the large group of new girls in Oase that have too much of an attitude to work in a club like this, but come away with it since the "tourists" don't care.)

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1473083]I have to agree. Its silly. The under arm stench of some guys comes from germs breeding in the oil glands beneath the outer skin but come out with the body oils being secreted. This is a difficult problem to fix, as washing the outside skin doesn't get rid of the bacteria inside. The smell of some guys is so strong it could put me off my food. Unfortunately my nose is very sensitive. I would have to move away a reasonable distance. Some guys have bad mouth odour too, so I cannot stand talking face to face too close. Compared to this, a completely nude girl passing through the restaurant would not bother me in the slightest. Crikey! I lick girls' pussies and assholes. Clearly I am not thinking they are bacteria laden, and yes the idea of any bacteria jumping on to my plate is absurd compared to direct sucking and licking for very long periods. I suppose at least I choose who I lick and would not do so if a girl was smelly.

I assure you that in real nudist holiday camps, no one is covering up to enter a food area, or in a restaurant. Okay I do understand the concept of towels protecting the seats and furniture from guys' potentially dirty asses, but there we are talking direct contact. Towels cannot protect us from all the bad smells.

Overall I believe that girls are far more careful with cleanliness than the guys are, on average. I see plenty of guys arrive at club and take no shower before going out to mingle with the girls, even though they have body odour. Personally, I would not risk it.

I recall the odd girl exception. One girl at Palace came over and climbed on top of me (originally I was considering her) , but her breath was so "rotten drain" like, that I had to turn my head away immediately, and never considered a session again. Slight smokers breath I can stand, as have got used to it a bit. I have had more than one GF who smoked.

I apologise for lack of specific girl reports for a few weeks, but surely all can be rectified when I return to Frankfurt this weekend, although I suppose will mostly take my regular girls.[/QUOTE]Hello Syzygies.

Yeah, there was a girl at Palace that had the stank breath. That is the deal breaker, I'm afraid. You would guess that if she smelled bad up top, never mind French kissing. The Australian kissing is out of the question. I suppose it would be a good idea to take along a bottle of mouthwash. Some girls carry some in their purses, but I guess most of them do not. Looking forward to reading your report.

FiddyCent

[QUOTE=FiddyCent; 1473436]Hello Syzygies.

Yeah, there was a girl at Palace that had the stank breath. That is the deal breaker, I'm afraid. You would guess that if she smelled bad up top, never mind French kissing. The [B]Australian kissing[/B] Is out of the question. I suppose it would be a good idea to take along a bottle of mouthwash. Some girls carry shome in their purses, but I guess most of them do not. Looking forward to reading your report.

FiddyCent[/QUOTE]LOL, never heard it referred to as 'Australian kissing', but makes sense.

I always carry mouthwash & gum, and will do so when I return this weekend. Just makes sense.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1473436]Yeah, there was a girl at Palace that had the stank breath. FiddyCent[/QUOTE]I don't understand the problem with bad breath. Bad breath can be easily recognized during the conversation in main area. Just don't take that girl to the room.

[QUOTE=Myrmidon; 1473444]LOL, never heard it referred to as 'Australian kissing', but makes sense.

I always carry mouthwash & gum, and will do so when I return this weekend. Just makes sense.[/QUOTE]I have no idea what is "Australian".

Bad breath seems to be much more prevalent in older people (like myself) , so we have to be particularly careful.

I take the mouth cleaning further. Mouthwash is not a guarantee. It is said that mouth washes with alcohol are not good as dry up natural saliva somewhat. I use a plastic tongue scrapping device as gunk on back of the tongue is a major cause of bad breath. Also floss to make sure nothing stuck between the teeth. Gum is good as promotes saliva.

Stomach bacteria or viruses can also cause bad breath. The common bacterial infection is well treatable.

I just believe if your mouth is immaculate and smell free, then will get more enthusiastic kissing from the girl.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1473513]I have no idea what is "Australian".[/QUOTE]Thought that referred to Going 'Down-Under', (DATY).

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1473513]I take the mouth cleaning further. Mouthwash is not a guarantee. It is said that mouth washes with alcohol are not good as dry up natural saliva somewhat. I use a plastic tongue scrapping device as gunk on back of the tongue is a major cause of bad breath. Also floss to make sure nothing stuck between the teeth. Gum is good as promotes saliva.
[/QUOTE]I like using gum, since flossing or over exuberant brushing could lead to small cuts in the gums, etc.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1473513]I just believe if your mouth is immaculate and smell free, then will get more enthusiastic kissing from the girl.[/QUOTE]

Agreed! And that is the objective...

Guys,

Let's not forget about the "Lounge and chat area" for all the aul gassin about Australia and Mouthwash etc.

If possible info on Oase for here.

Cheers

I went to Oase this past week for the IAA Messe. I went on a weekday afternoon around 4pm and stayed until 7pm. The placed was completely empty. There were people who thought that the place would be packed, but it was surprisingly dead-both very few men & women. I asked the girls and they were disappointed in the turnout. They said that the weekend was excellent, but he weekdays were very poor. I actually went to the IAA (frankfurt auto show) , and it was packed. There were easily thousands if not tens of thousands of people there.

I sessioned with Karla. She provides excellent service. She very much is like a gazelle. Extremely thin, small tits but perky, and cute little ass. The kind that when you see in a porno, you just think,"damn, that is a tight little ass". Just perfect heart-shaped and tight with skinny legs. She is very much my type, and she is very nice. No rushing, no upsell. Just "I do what you want."

I then sessioned with a new girl whom I had never seen before. Her name is Vanessa (yes, they're all Romanian). There was an older Vanessa who was dark haired andd claimed to be from spain, but I've not see her around at all. She may have left Oase. I no longer see saggy tits Maya, one of my favorites from before.

Vanessa is blonde, and 23. She is smoking hot. She has a beautiful face-she looks almost german with the blonde hair and blue eyes. She has perfect tits with the big nipples that stick out like little rockets. Her nipples are pinkish, also. She has a very nice ass that is tight and petite. She is an opticfuck, I think. She was all business. A gentle upsell, but not too bad. Get down to business. Blow job, start fucking and let's get it overwith. Not the greatest sservice, but she certainly got the job done.

Overal, the lineup at Oase is quite solid. It's very strong. They have a fair number of young new chicks there, but there is still the same contingent of the same crew (the buck toothed girl with dark hair and perky nips, the older 45 yo lady with short hair, the contingent of Romanian girls who have been there for years). I will definitely be back.

[QUOTE=Catmouse123;1474289]I went to Oase this past week for the IAA Messe. I went on a weekday afternoon around 4pm and stayed until 7pm. The placed was completely empty. There were people who thought that the place would be packed, but it was surprisingly dead-both very few men & women. I asked the girls and they were disappointed in the turnout.[/QUOTE]I think many experienced goers to Oase have reported that Messe has little effect on Oase, especially early on weekdays, maybe some effect at the end of the week. When going to Oase, I have never been concerned about the Messe at all. Trains can be packed out in the morning with Messe travellers but I get on at Frankfurt West (already past the Messe stop). Bigger effect at the Palace as its much closer. Non forum readers going to messe events might see FKK advertising in newspapers, magazines, then choose the nearby ones, most likely. First time I ever saw an FKK ad, I was not in the ISG, and I did not even know what FKK was. Thought it could be related to a Table-top dancing place. LOL. Was a Palace attendee Asian American that suggested I should check out the ISG forum.

Nice report about the 2 blonde Romanians which pretty much confirms what other writers have said about Karla / Carla / Erica and Vanessa. Originally I was intending to try Vanessa, as good looking and nice ass, but so many ordinary reports here (lacking the GFE style) have put that off till I really can't find anything more exciting. Seems everyone agrees Carla is great in the room. Never seen anything but all good reports on her. She is just a little bit on the small side. LOL

Hi,

Short update.

Pizza was good. Room system is okay with me. Line up was good in terms of looks however.

Girls service was rubbish. Most girls I went with wanted to upsell! Significant number of new girls.

Frankly speaking it is not my number 1 club anymore and the new girls have quite an attitude problem.

Didn't enjoy this trip only had 2 amazing session with 8 others were forgettable.

In this trip I tried new girls only (does not include the old girls that I have reviewed before)

Prefer colo and gt more actually. LOL

IAA and automechanica used to have a huge effect on Oase. From Monday thru Sunday the place was packed with girls (120+) and men. From 9/10pm there were long queues of guys trying to get in, couples waiting for rooms for 60min+, public action everywhere. At times the place looked like a gay club filled with hundreds of guys. That may have changed.

At Palace last week you had to wait for 70min for a room. Many girls were not amused.

HB

[QUOTE=Catmouse123;1474289]I no longer see saggy tits Maya, one of my favorites from before.[/QUOTE]Can't call her saggy tits Maya anymore. She recently had her boobs done and they look pretty firm now.

Still not had the opportunity to fuck her yet.

Anyways, if you want to see her again, you can catch her at Club LaBoum as moded tits Maria. LOL.

Link attached.

[url]http://www.clublaboum.ch/maria.html[/url]

Talking of which, made an unscheduled pit stop in Zurich recently. Went off the beaten path to try this club out only because of this blond called Barbara.

[url]http://www.clublaboum.ch/barbara.html[/url]

Oh my fucking god. One word - Hot!!! Fantastic butt. Amazing view from behind whilst in doggie. Yummy!!!

Howie

[QUOTE=Howie; 1474544]Can't call her saggy tits Maya anymore. She recently had her boobs done and they look pretty firm now.

Still not had the opportunity to fuck her yet.

Anyways, if you want to see her again, you can catch her at Club LaBoum as moded tits Maria. LOL.

Talking of which, made an unscheduled pit stop in Zurich recently. Went off the beaten path to try this club out only because of this blond called Barbara.

[url]http://www.clublaboum.ch/barbara.html[/url]

Oh my fucking god. One word. Hot! Fantastic butt. Amazing view from behind whilst in doggie. Yummy!

Howie[/QUOTE]Yeah I couldn't agree more. She looks good with the new perky tits. Love licking and sucking it like a lollipop.

FYI Maya's best friend from Oase and Colo (uses the name Loretta before this) is at la boum as well Lorette ([url]http://www.clublaboum.ch/lorette.html[/url])

Club la Boum to expensive nearly 400 euro for an hour.

Have a friend who recommends MILF Jennifer ornhole. Hot looking MILF with a really tight asshole that can take a hard pounding.

Just arrived to my country from Frankfurt. I visited Oase for 2 straight days with my friend. Now it was his first experience at such club. Actually it's even more fun to find an excitement in other person than to be excited myself, as I was ready for the beautiful line-up and he was just amazed by the amount of beautiful girls there.

We arrived in Frankfurt on Wednesday and decided to stay in the hotel in Friedrichsdorf as I proposed to visit Oase 2 straight days. I was expecting a huge number of people in the club as IAA still goes on and even small hotel near Oase had last two rooms when we ordered (two weeks ago). However, I was pleasantly surprised that there were not too many men both days. Girls said that on the week-end Oase was full but after it situation changed. There was just one time when one of us had to wait for the room and it was just for 7-10 minutes. Probably, later in the night situation could be different but we left both days near 1:30 am.

I would not like to deeply touch the situation with food. I ate just once, my friend twice. He was satisfied by the service. I was not (waited too long). However, as I need pauses between girls anyway I will not consider it as a real problem situation. Also, for me, the restaurant is a very good strategic place, as girls' changing room is at the back of it (before it was men's) , so I can see all of them after they get free from the session. And if I like to go with someone, she'll be in my vision straight after her shower.

As for girls. Unforunately I completely forgot names of two Hungurian girls, whom I had session with on Wednesday. One of them looks as she's about 25 (I think) with a very nice smile, good looking, she has not blonde hair but almost silver (I know it sound stupid, but I can't find proper English words) , B-size cups and nice ass. She told me she worked at the club for several years already. The service was very nice, probably the best blowjob of both days and very good sex. I was also surprised that she was not upselling but downselling). Despite my first proposal of an 1-hour session, after I finished she proposed us to stop at half an hour if I want. I agreed and thus gave her only 50 Euro. 7/10 look and 8/10 sex.

The second girl was much worse. A small Hungarian, black hair, nice A-cups. She approached me in kino section and offered me a session. I don't know even why I agreeed as she's not my type of girl completely. She was highly upselling and service was bad. We stayed one hour, she gave me massage, but sex was of a low quality and she was talking about her money problems and her fear (she worked only 2 weeks as she said) all the time. I also don't remember her name. 6/10 look and 4/10 sex.

I also talked to Elena from Romania and we agreed to meet the next day but unfortunately she didn't come on Thursday.

The next day, on Thursday, I arrived at 17 and had 3 sessions. After I tried to wait for either Elena or tall blonde girl, who looked like Uma Thurman and attracted my attention on Wednesday, I decided that I don't want to waste my time and started the day with Eliza. She's a tall Romanian girl with nice B-cups and ass and she's really sweet as a person. Unfortunately, I can't say sex was good for me. Blowjob was poor and sex was just average. She's a very good and smart girl but really needs to improve her skills. 7/10 look and 5/10 sex.

The next one had to be this "Uma Thurman-like" girl and after my friend tried her and recommended. I decided to take her also. She said her name is Dora and claimed to be Albanian. I don't know if it's true but at least she mentioned the name of the capital of Albania right. I really liked her look but I don't even know how to describe and assess sex. I feel as it was good but I couldn't cum. We did it for 45 straigt minutes, different positions and I sweated like never before in my life. Still couldn't cum. It seems they put something into spaghetti carbonara. Despite it I can't blame her for anything. She did her best. 8/10 look and 7/10 sex.

After that we were approached by the pair of Czech girls. Elizabeth and Adele. My friend liked Liz and I was impressed by conversation with her friend. I needed some pause and she went with someone for an hour but after that I invited her to the room. And that was the best sex in Oase I had both my visits. Adele probably doesn't have the look most men prefer. Not the skinniest girl, not tall (heels are very high) but she's just a great lover. I mean I know most of it is just a show from her side (as it's her job) and I'm not a guy who would say, that the girl had a great time with me despite it's her job. I clearly believe she played but I would give her porn Oscar in this case. It was 146% GFE (Russian joke). Her look, her voice, her moves. Everything was perfect. I think I saw her 2 months ago and had some feeling that she'll be a good option but didn't choose her. Now I think I'll return and repeat for sure. 7/10 look and 10/10 sex.

So that was my short report. I didn't try other clubs but for me there is no need to try them. I like Oase and hope to return. The question for usual visitors. Do they work on Christmas holidays? Or girls return to their countries?

[QUOTE=Howie; 1474544]Can't call her saggy tits Maya anymore. She recently had her boobs done and they look pretty firm now.

Still not had the opportunity to fuck her yet.

Anyways, if you want to see her again, you can catch her at Club LaBoum as moded tits Maria. LOL.

Link attached.

[url]http://www.clublaboum.ch/maria.html[/url]

Howie[/QUOTE]Sorry Howie, but I don't think that's Saggy Tits Maya. First, that link describes her as 18. She's definitely not 18. Second, Maya definitely has green eyes. The girl in your photo does not.

Striking resemblance though.

[Actually, we've already had this same conversation on August 15, 2013 on this same thread Howie]

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1474391]Hi,

Short update.

Pizza was good. Room system is okay with me. Line up was good in terms of looks however.

Girls service was rubbish. Most girls I went with wanted to upsell! Significant number of new girls.

Frankly speaking it is not my number 1 club anymore and the new girls have quite an attitude problem.

Didn't enjoy this trip only had 2 amazing session with 8 others were forgettable.

In this trip I tried new girls only (does not include the old girls that I have reviewed before)

Prefer colo and gt more actually. LOL[/QUOTE]Ciao my twin brother CaptCabins,

We really are alike. I also found at Oase my last few visits that there is more prevalence of upsell, wanting to charge extra for ball lickibg and sucking and wanting a session to more than 50 euro.

Yes I know there will be those others who say this is nonsense and that it necer happened to them and so it cannot be true. But this personal experience and that matters more to the reporter than whatever any other stud says since they were not there.

Even now I think more on whether I will go back as regularly as before. There has to be a significant draw and right now the list of draw cards for Oase is pretty slim.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1474553]Yeah I couldn't agree more. She looks good with the new perky tits. Love licking and sucking it like a lollipop.

FYI Maya's best friend from Oase and Colo (uses the name Loretta before this) is at la boum as well Lorette ([url]http://www.clublaboum.ch/lorette.html[/url])

Club la Boum to expensive nearly 400 euro for an hour.

Have a friend who recommends MILF Jennifer ornhole. Hot looking MILF with a really tight asshole that can take a hard pounding.[/QUOTE]Hey Captain,

Agreed it is quite a pricey joint though everything (on their service menu) is inclusive in you stay 30mins or longer.

Both Lorette and Jennifer are on my 'to do' list.

I just missed out on Lorette on the day I arrived into Zurich which was a late evening. She had left earlier in the day for Romania. Too bad.

Jennifer has crappy hours. Only works Monday to Fridays and from opening to 8pm which does not work for me.

By the way, do you know if Lorette and Maya/Maria are still visiting Cola? Ie alternating between Laboum and Cola. Might try and catch them when I next visit there.

Howie

[QUOTE=Howie; 1474792]Hey Captain,

Agreed it is quite a pricey joint though everything (on their service menu) is inclusive in you stay 30mins or longer.

Both Lorette and Jennifer are on my 'to do' list.

I just missed out on Lorette on the day I arrived into Zurich which was a late evening. She had left earlier in the day for Romania. Too bad.

Jennifer has crappy hours. Only works Monday to Fridays and from opening to 8pm which does not work for me.

By the way, do you know if Lorette and Maya / Maria are still visiting Cola? Ie alternating between Laboum and Cola. Might try and catch them when I next visit there.

Howie[/QUOTE]I haven't seen them at Colo yet.

Both of them are good GFE.

Catmouse would be happy he found his girl. That is Maya and Loretta. Have fucked them both no mistake it is them.

[QUOTE=Yakob; 1474625]Ciao my twin brother CaptCabins,

We really are alike. I also found at Oase my last few visits that there is more prevalence of upsell, wanting to charge extra for ball lickibg and sucking and wanting a session to more than 50 euro.

Yes I know there will be those others who say this is nonsense and that it necer happened to them and so it cannot be true. But this personal experience and that matters more to the reporter than whatever any other stud says since they were not there.

Even now I think more on whether I will go back as regularly as before. There has to be a significant draw and right now the list of draw cards for Oase is pretty slim.[/QUOTE]Agreed. World is my no 1 club now in Hessen.

The studn can think what they like at the end they are paying a working girl.

Some American indian think he is a husband to FKK girl and scared to share his FKK wives.

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy; 1474600]Sorry Howie, but I don't think that's Saggy Tits Maya. First, that link describes her as 18. She's definitely not 18. Second, Maya definitely has green eyes. The girl in your photo does not.

Striking resemblance though.

[Actually, we've already had this same conversation on August 15, 2013 on this same thread Howie][/QUOTE]You belief what the website tell you? Its a freaking brothel? Bet you belief it when the prostitute tell you that you are handsome and a stud to them. Nvm you still pay for sex huh.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1474391]Line up was good in terms of looks however.

Girls service was rubbish. Most girls I went with wanted to upsell! Significant number of new girls.

Frankly speaking it is not my number 1 club anymore and the new girls have quite an attitude problem.[/QUOTE]+1

Same experience here (see my last review) , Oase was in my top-3 in 2012 and before, one year ago it already went down to top-5, and since the rebuild (especially the kino!) and the change of attitude of many (new) girls, it is almost not a top-10 club for me anymore. Many other, better places in Germany where the girls offer GFE as well as PSE, including many public action and presales (and much closer to home also!).

Looking at the beautiful line up while relaxing in the whirlpool is still great, but don't expect 4 high-service sessions on one day in Oase anymore (as it used to be.)

[QUOTE=Maxime; 1474921]+1

Same experience here (see my last review) , Oase was in my top-3 in 2012 and before, one year ago it already went down to top-5, and since the rebuild (especially the kino!) and the change of attitude of many (new) girls, it is almost not a top-10 club for me anymore. Many other, better places in Germany where the girls offer GFE as well as PSE, including many public action and presales (and much closer to home also!).

Looking at the beautiful line up while relaxing in the whirlpool is still great, but don't expect 4 high-service sessions on one day in Oase anymore (as it used to be.) [/QUOTE]Hi Maxime and newbies,

I totally agree with you on all points.

If you ask me last year before November 2012 I would say it is no 1 club in Hessen. But now OMG the vibe I get from new girls is just pretty much near palace (not as bad as Palace is the worst to me in Palace but they got reall lookers (model type prostitute). If Oase girls service gets worst then I would say it would be worse than Palace due to the one meal deal, normal girl looks and sharky and rude girls.

This time around when I reject a girl politely it is more than once a girl would just get up with an atiitude and one girl said " ahh. Old men". WTF. Of course old men and young losers go to brothels and lets not forget that you are a prostitute. The girls certainly thinks they are better than the men (only from the new girls the old timers still treat the clients with respect). Owh I don't know it was crappy to me when I compared it to GT / Colo or World. Even the good looking marie never disses her clients like some of the new Romanian girls.

I have explored other fkk and was hoping I could give a really good positive about oase but heck only good thing I like is the whirlpool that maxime describe and the pizza! Thats it.

Oase should do better to be more competitive IMHO.

Hi there Maxime, can you advise your current top 3 clubs? Have limited time in Germany and would love to put it to good use. Last year enjoyed Oase and Sharks.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Maxime; 1474921]+1

Same experience here (see my last review) , Oase was in my top-3 in 2012 and before, one year ago it already went down to top-5, and since the rebuild (especially the kino!) and the change of attitude of many (new) girls, it is almost not a top-10 club for me anymore. Many other, better places in Germany where the girls offer GFE as well as PSE, including many public action and presales (and much closer to home also!).

Looking at the beautiful line up while relaxing in the whirlpool is still great, but don't expect 4 high-service sessions on one day in Oase anymore (as it used to be.) [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Maxime; 1474921]+1

Same experience here (see my last review) , Oase was in my top-3 in 2012 and before, one year ago it already went down to top-5, and since the rebuild (especially the kino!) and the change of attitude of many (new) girls, it is almost not a top-10 club for me anymore. Many other, better places in Germany where the girls offer GFE as well as PSE, including many public action and presales (and much closer to home also!).

Looking at the beautiful line up while relaxing in the whirlpool is still great, but don't expect 4 high-service sessions on one day in Oase anymore (as it used to be.) [/QUOTE]Interesting reading this. My experiences at Oase throughout the years have declined steadily culminating last year. It seems that service has declined even more this year. I stopped going to Palace because of this. My experiences in China were similar. I think I'll stick to Latin America.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1474415]IAA and automechanica used to have a huge effect on Oase. From Monday thru Sunday the place was packed with girls (120+) and men. From 9/10pm there were long queues of guys trying to get in, couples waiting for rooms for 60min+, public action everywhere. At times the place looked like a gay club filled with hundreds of guys. That may have changed.

At Palace last week you had to wait for 70min for a room. Many girls were not amused.

HB[/QUOTE]Not anymore. I was there during the IAA messe and it was not that busy. No need to wait for the room. More detailed reports later.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1475102]Not anymore. I was there during the IAA messe and it was not that busy. No need to wait for the room. More detailed reports later.[/QUOTE]Yesterday evening at Oase was very busy, busier than most Saturdays earlier in the year that I attended. However can be deceptive due to all the couples queuing for the room keys. The queue length varied a lot. My worst wait for a room would have been about 10 to 15 mins. Not too extreme. Maybe the room queuing system helps a bit. Lavinia reported that Friday was extremely packed and difficult to move through the club, and a significant queue of guys on entry at one time.

The odd couples were having sex in the kino, but not many.

Perhaps Messe is having some effect. Huge crowds on the Friedrichsdorf morning train yesterday but nearly all got off at Messe.

The other factor is the line-up at Oase is pretty phenomenal. There are a very large number of new girls that seems to have arrived in just the last 2 to 3 months.

After a few weeks away, returned to Oase yesterday. First chance to try the refurbished locker room and restaurant area.

Club rules are increasing. Girls are not permitted in the Jacuzzi it seems. First "breakfast" session was with Lavina (Rom). Also called Anni / Anna. Her distinctive diamond encrusted balls hanging from the navel were missing. Need repair it seems. Has the diamond encrusted hoop ear-rings. Still can be identified by blonde hair with a few spiral curls, C cups, black mole below the left collar bone. No tats. Won't bore you all with the session details has been covered many times before. I'll omit details of my other regulars too, other than to say my regulars that were present were: Lavinia (Rom Anni) , Magda (Rom Daria / Margita) , Amalia (Rom) , Elizabeth (Cze) , Roxy (via Spain / Serbia? Evita) now apparently deciding to call herself Jonessa who speaks many languages.

A girl I decided to try was Aida (Slov) called Anita by the girls. I think was new sometime in 2013. Killer curvy model body similar to her friend Roxy / Evita. Super ass, A cups very nice shape and nice nipples. Slightly angular face. Brown hair with maybe a very slight reddish tinge. Reminds me a little of another Slovakian Carla (also called Julia by girls and previously once called Angela / Angie I think) with similar face and the stunning ass. Very playful girl while queuing for the room key. DFK kissing in room, seemed to enjoy the DATY, okay blowjob but not exceptional, Very nice fuck in several positions with tight pussy. No restrictions and even allowed fingers deep in the pussy. Liked to play the music to set the scene. Yes would definitely repeat.

For food I used the band for the No. 3 Speciale Pizza. Was quite good. Did not try the breakfast as ate breakfast at home. Also spent 10 Euros to eat a Panna Cotta with Roxy. Was quite good with red sauce tasting good, but another sauce on side of plate was clearly condensed milk with possibly a touch of vinegar which I left behind. Coffees were good. Not like the old shitty machines that produced undrinkable stuff.

Relax couches by the Jacuzzi are gone. The only place that is safe for relaxation are now the 3 couches by the Sauna. Girls are not allowed in there.

A large number of girls, maybe as many as 30, were girls I had never seen before (2 month absence), and the standard of the new girls was well above average. I lot of sets of really nice tits and asses. Plenty of gazelles. The line-up is really good despite 50% plain Janes and buffaloes and very few black girls present.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1475154]After a few weeks away, returned to Oase yesterday.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Zyzygies. Very good information.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1474808]Agreed. World is my no 1 club now in Hessen.
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I see it differently. I am more looks oriented. Oase became boring early in the year due to a weak line-up. Now there has been a massive influx of new girls during 2013. Many pretty gazelles with hot bodies. So can safely ignore the old boring girls. My last visit to World about 3 months ago had a very weak line-up, most of my regulars missing, which could well have been temporary, but rumours of girls being sent to Leipzig.

I have not experienced any changing in the levels of service at Oase which may mean I have got lucky in choosing well. Also I am not affected by girls who don't like to perform at their peak for 50 Euros, as I hardly ever take a 30 min session unless the girl is not good at all. Do my regular girls at World perform any better than the regulars at Oase. Simple no to that. Okay One or two World girls I am particularly missing and will get back to soon.

Kino changes don't affect me as I never used the kino at Oase, and used the world kino only on crazy party days. I don't "need" to have large audiences to my fucking.

Most new Oase girls I have tried this year have performed very well. I am very wary about picking girls until I have had a lot of time to sum them up though. If many others are seeing a decline, so be it. Its not effecting me. Still many optifiks yet to be tried.

Maybe problems with girls at Oase stem from trying too many different girls with short very assessment periods before choice. There have always been non-GFE type sharky upsell girls in Oase, since I can ever remember (Maybe less of them in World) but there still remains many great girls to be had.

I am becoming wary to form any opinion of a club for too long. The quality of the line-up is changing dramatically worse or better within a short few weeks. At the moment, many new girls are being attracted to Oase, it could be for the wrong reasons, but girls often find they make more money at Oase. Lavinia would testify that while she was a moderate earner at World, she now makes very good money at Oase (significantly more). Never ever upsells.

Regarding service World is more consistent than Oase. Same for Sharks. Both clubs do have a lot of regulars, Oase was losing a lot of regulars, there's many business people, sex tourists, messe audience. They are satisfied with lower service levels and willing to pay more than the standard and to take sessions longer than 30min. So at Oase (same at Palace) you will get good service as a regular from girls who know you. You may get poor service from new girls if you are chosing a 30min standard session. At Sharks and World that is not as common. So I will still visit Oase but currently I prefer Sharks. And sometimes World for a change.

HB

Apologies, as I am a somewhat unsocial type, and some girls I never talk to for years and so don't know all the names of long time girls. However I can mention a portion perhaps 50% of the whole line-up. Probably there were 90 to 100 girls all up. Severe shortage of black/Latina girls and just one Thai.

If not mentioned assume: mid size (KF36), mid height, straight long dark hair. Hopefully not too many errors.
Girls I probably never met before since last visit 2 months ago (possibly only 50% of new girls listed)
. Adele (Cze? Elizabeth's sister),? Since 2013
. Anka/Anca? (Rom) A? cups, slim blonde, since mid 2013
. Bella (Rom) B- cups, curvy blonde, pretty face upturned nose, since Mid 2013
. Cynthia (Ser), C+ cups, v.tall voluptuous tan? skin, single braided ponytail, since mid 2013
. Emma (Rom) saggy A cups, med blonde, since July? 2013
. Laura (Rom) A cups, slim blonde, since July? 2013
. Lucy (Rom) A cups, v.slim brunette, since July? 2013
. Marise? (Rom), A cups, v. slim short blonde short hair, since mid 2013?
. Nellie (Rom?) A cups, v.tall slim dark blonde shoulder length, since mid 2013 or maybe returning?
. Paula (Rom) B+ cups swollen nipples, voluptuous curly haired light brunette (dark blonde), since mid 2013
. Sara(h) (Rom) C cups, voluptuous brunette, since July 2013
. Sophia (Rom) B- cups, short slim-voluptuous blonde, since Aug? 2013

Girls previously met:
. Aida (Slo Anita/Anna) A cups, voluptuous (fab ass) brunette, since 2013
. Alexa (Rom half Thai) A cups, slim v.short brunette, long term
. Alicia (Rom) B+ cups, voluptuous tall slight tanned brunette, long term 2y+
. Amalia (Rom/Macedonian) B+ cups, slim white skinned brunette, 30 Y.O., since early 2013
. Ambra (Rom) C impants, voluptuous golden blonde, oiled skin, long term
. Amelia (Rom) saggy A cups, slim tall tanned reddish-brunette, since Feb 2012
. Bianca (Rom) A cups, tall slim black hair, long term
. Carla (Rom Erica) A cups, v.slim blonde/green hair, with face piercing, since 2013.
. Cynthia (Ger? ), saggy A cups, slim non-curvy med short dark skinned girl, since mid 2013
. Deborah (Rom) saggy A cups, slim curly redhead, since 2012?
. Dora (Rom) A cups, tall slim kooky platinum blonde, long term
. Elena (Rom) A+ cups, slim (ass increasing) tall dark blonde (l.br with blonde streaks), long term?
. Elizabeth (Cze Eliza) A+ cups, tall voluptuous brunette, since early 2013.
. Gloria (Rom) saggy B- cups, voluptuous brunette, tats, long term
. Ilona (Ven "Zeta-Jones") D implants, tall big tanned skin, upturned nose, long term
. Jennifer (Rom? via Madrid) B+ cups, voluptuous sway back brunette, bee-sting lips, since early 2011
. Jessica (Rom) A- cups, slim brunette (hair changed to brown), hook nose, long term?
. Julia (Rom Alexia's sister) A cups, v.slim tall (model) light brunette, since 2012?
. Kim (Thai) saggy A cups, slim tall dark skin, since 5 y?
. Laura (Rom) C to D cups, tall big voluptuous brunette, since early 2013.
. Lavinia (Rom Anni) C cups, voluptuous blonde often with spiral curls, upturned nose, since Aug 2012, ex Anna (World).
. Lucia (Ita/Rom?) A cups, large short dark blonde short hair thick belly, since 5y+
. Magda (Rom ex-Daria) A cups, slim blonde, significant lower back tats, since 2010?
. Melanie (Deu) B? cups, v.tall v.big blonde, makes goggle eyes, long term
. Monica (Bul) C implants, tall slim-voluptuous brunette, long term
. Morena (Rom?), B cups, large m.tall brunette, upnurn noose, since 2013
. Nichole (Rom) C cups, voluptuous tall, v. long black hair, pretty face, since 2012
. Patrizia (Bra) B cups, voluptuous dark skin, since May 2011
. Rebecca (Rom) B+ cups, voluptuous+ ass curly blonde, since mid 2013
. Roxy (Ser? via Spain - Evita, now to be Jonessa?) A+ cups, tall v.voluptuous curvy brunette (fab ass) tanned skin, since mid 2012
. Sara(h) (Rom) B cups, voluptuous brunette, long term?
. Sunny (Deu) C+ implants, v.tall big size, v.short blonde hair, long term
. Vanessa (Rom) A+ cups, slim curvy short pretty blonde (great ass), since 2013
. Victoria (Pol), A cups, slim to medium older blonde, long term

Plus many other buffaloes, uglies, silly-cones etc.

Known girls missing:
Gabriella(Ven), Judith(Hun), Diana(Dom), Luna(Dom), Eva(Ken), May(Thai), Sylvia(Hun), Maria(Deu), Crina(Rom), Tina Turner Sisters, Mellisa (Rom/Tur), Alexia(Glasses), Jasmine(tall), Anelia (Bul), Angelica (Rom), Anna (Rom), Bianca (Rom Amalia's friend), Carla (Slo Julia), Katerina (Rus), Luisa (Mar), Mia (Cub), Suzanne (Jam)

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1475205]Regarding service World is more consistent than Oase. Same for Sharks. Both clubs do have a lot of regulars, Oase was losing a lot of regulars, there's many business people, sex tourists, messe audience. They are satisfied with lower service levels and willing to pay more than the standard and to take sessions longer than 30min. So at Oase (same at Palace) you will get good service as a regular from girls who know you. You may get poor service from new girls if you are chosing a 30min standard session. At Sharks and World that is not as common. So I will still visit Oase but currently I prefer Sharks. And sometimes World for a change.

HB[/QUOTE]An old German guy who used to be Palace regular visiting Oase told me Sharks used to good, was sold to new owners and has recently gone down hill in the line-up. I guess others might see that differently?

Did not see who he sessioned with at all at Oase, but I remember Palace girls suggested he did not have a very good reputation among the girls.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1475185]Lavinia would testify that while she was a moderate earner at World, she now makes very good money at Oase (significantly more). Never ever upsells.[/QUOTE]I can easily find 10 girls like Lavinia (looks and room performance) in World and Sharks.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1475229]. Elizabeth (Cze Eliza) A+ cups, tall voluptuous brunette, since early 2013.[/QUOTE]Big scar from motorbike accident on her leg? I met her in Sharks during her short visit there. Very good chemistry and still I'm regretting not to go room with her.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1475244]An old German guy who used to be Palace regular visiting Oase told me Sharks used to good, was sold to new owners and has recently gone down hill in the line-up.[/QUOTE]Believe whatever you want. You will find me swimming with the sharks.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1475262]Believe whatever you want. You will find me swimming with the sharks.

HB[/QUOTE]I don't say I believed him. Prefer wider balanced opinions. Always a skeptic till I see with my own eyes, and even then still sceptical. LOL

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1475229]Girls I probably never met before since last visit 2 months ago (possibly only 50% of new girls listed)

Adele (Cze? Elizabeth's sister)? Since 2013
Anka / Anca? (Rom) A? Cups, slim blonde, since mid 2013
Bella (Rom) B- cups, curvy blonde, pretty face upturned nose, since Mid 2013.
Cynthia (Ser) , C+ cups, v. Tall voluptuous tan? Skin, single braided ponytail, since mid 2013.
Emma (Rom) saggy A cups, med blonde, since July? 2013.
Laura (Rom) A cups, slim blonde, since July? 2013.
Lucy (Rom) A cups, v. Slim brunette, since July? 2013.
Marise? (Rom) , A cups, v. Slim short blonde short hair, since mid 2013?
Nellie (Rom?) A cups, v. Tall slim dark blonde shoulder length, since mid 2013 or maybe returning?
Paula (Rom) B+ cups swollen nipples, voluptuous curly haired light brunette (dark blonde) , since mid 2013.
Sara (h) (Rom) C cups, voluptuous brunette, since July 2013.
Sophia (Rom) B- cups, short slim-voluptuous blonde, since Aug? 2013[/QUOTE]P. S. Nearly every one of these newer girls listed were doable in the looks category for me and I am fairly fussy. I probably would not take Lucy (body too straight) , Emma too saggy, Marise too skinny.

I would like to know if anyone has seen Sylvia (Hun) , a real Hungarian (LOL) , tall dark blonde slim girl with saggy A cups, and narrow pretty face, or knows what has happened to her. As I went with her just once 2 months ago and she was a total GFE sex bomb in the room. Can't recall better service for some long time, if ever. I don't recall seeing any further reports on her.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1475205]Regarding service World is more consistent than Oase. Same for Sharks. Both clubs do have a lot of regulars, Oase was losing a lot of regulars, there's many business people, sex tourists, messe audience. They are satisfied with lower service levels and willing to pay more than the standard and to take sessions longer than 30min. So at Oase (same at Palace) you will get good service as a regular from girls who know you. You may get poor service from new girls if you are chosing a 30min standard session. At Sharks and World that is not as common. So I will still visit Oase but currently I prefer Sharks. And sometimes World for a change.

HB[/QUOTE]Based on recent experience I agree with HB on all points. Only thing is for me world is no1 sharks is no 2. Am sot so sure where to place oase LOL.

But Sygies you are right lots of new girls gazelle bodies but poor attitude in my opinion. But yes most of this session was 50 euro with 2 100 euro session and 1 150. If you spend more some girls would upgrade their service.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1475229]Apologies, as I am a somewhat unsocial type, and some girls I never talk to for years and so don't know all the names of long time girls. However I can mention a portion perhaps 50% of the whole line-up. Probably there were 90 to 100 girls all up. Severe shortage of black / Latina girls and just one Thai.

If not mentioned assume: mid size (KF36) , mid height, straight long dark hair. Hopefully not too many errors.

Girls I probably never met before since last visit 2 months ago (possibly only 50% of new girls listed)

Adele (Cze? Elizabeth's sister)? Since 2013

Anka / Anca? (Rom) A? Cups, slim blonde, since mid 2013

Bella (Rom) B- cups, curvy blonde, pretty face upturned nose, since Mid 2013...[/QUOTE]Actually I would recommend Adele to everyone. She claims to be Liz sister, yes. Doubtful for me as they told they can work together in pair, but who knows) Still under impression about her service. Several times already thought that it's very good she doesn't work in Moscow or I would become complete bankrupt.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1475315]Based on recent experience I agree with HB on all points. Only thing is for me world is no1 sharks is no 2. Am sot so sure where to place oase LOL.

But Sygies you are right lots of new girls gazelle bodies but poor attitude in my opinion. But yes most of this session was 50 euro with 2 100 euro session and 1 150. If you spend more some girls would upgrade their service.[/QUOTE]It will be interesting to see in the coming period. I am yet to try any of the girls arriving in just the last 2 months. Good girls that I have tried that were new this year (I believe) were Amalia (Rom) , Elizabeth (Cze) , Sylivia (Hun) , Maria (Deu) , Aida(Slo), Eva (Ken) , Angela (Rom) - gone now. All were either great, v. Good, or acceptable, and GFE. Did I get incredibly lucky? I had not read reports on any of these girls prior to trying. Others I tried this were longer term girls, not new. I may have been more lucky with selections this year than any previous year. I am thinking Oase has improved a lot for me in recent months where at the later part of 2012 I was very bored by Oase and around October 2012 I switched to World as my regular club.

I guess my mode of operation is unlike the average punter in that it takes me a lot to decide to try a new girl over my regulars. I sometimes sus out the girls character for long periods, before taking the bait. However most of these new girls listed were fairly quick decisions. These girls impressed me in relatively short times. I am actually not a really patient type of character.

I take on all these comments that there are some suspect performing girls arriving. I think of mixed reports for Ingrid, Angelina, Vanessa, etc, girls where I did not bite. Did not get a strong enough attraction or the right vibe. On the other hand I have heard how great some girls are that I am yet to try. E. G. Skinny Carla with the blonde / green hair. Hopefully I will try some of the very new lookers very soon and make the probe, e. G. Little Sophia has a hot body, Bella has a very pretty but naughty sexy face. Then there is Sara (h) and Paula with both with specially great tits, Cynthia with big tits. Can these optifiks all perform? Time will tell. Its unusual for me to try more than one new girl per visit. When I have a good collection of known girls, I don't get bored with them all in a hurry.

It doesn't really bother me how many poor girls the club has as long as there is also a great supply of good GFE girls. Oase has always had many suspect girls for as long as I can remember. Many are still there and some I don't even have a clue what their names are. I just never got attracted to their approach style or attitude.

I forgot to mention Nina and Steffi also absent on Saturday. Its harder too think of girls not there.

Will be interesting to reassess World again and try out Sharks where nearly every girl will be new to me. Will they have enough girls that can match the standard of some of the bodies and faces of Oase's best lookers? That will be the critical issue for me as I have no doubt I can find good performers. I feel at the moment that there are fewer stunning bodies and very pretty faces at World, even if a pretty good gazelle supply.

I mean who are the super pretty girls at World? Are there a lot of new girls also at World? I can think of some with moderately good looks. e.g. Samantha is very cute to me. Neya looks quite good but not stunning. Diana is pretty to me.

What's wrong with this forum? Only about one Sharks girl report in the last month. Slightly better for World but not much. Is the comparison of these clubs coming from actual recent experiences? O.K. I know HB reports elsewhere.

Szygies,

I tried Cynthia before, but never reported it. She is from the eastern part of Serbia, a tiny village called."Romania". Anyway, I believe I've read a report from another member. You can probably search for it, as she claimed to be from Bolivia at that time. When I tried her, she thought I was a noob and maybe didn't see me as a potential repeat customer. That was probably about a year ago when she was new at the club. We did a 50 EUR session. Quite a bit of complaining and upsell attempts. But would be interested in knowing if her service levels have improved...

McAdonis

Had 4 sessions on my last visit. 3 new girls. 1 regular I've known for years. Out of the 3 the first session was great, a girl who was at Sharks before. The 2 new girls where average service or under. Angelina and "Juicy".

HB

[QUOTE=McAdonis; 1475383]Szygies,

I tried Cynthia before, but never reported it. She is from the eastern part of Serbia, a tiny village called."Romania". Anyway, I believe I've read a report from another member. You can probably search for it, as she claimed to be from Bolivia at that time. When I tried her, she thought I was a noob and maybe didn't see me as a potential repeat customer. That was probably about a year ago when she was new at the club. We did a 50 EUR session. Quite a bit of complaining and upsell attempts. But would be interested in knowing if her service levels have improved.

McAdonis[/QUOTE]Ha ha! Seems that Serbian girls are always from somewhere else. She wasn't exactly at the top of my list of priorities, but if I get to her, I will certainly report. Roxy / Evita claims to be from Spain but speaks Serbian with Cynthia, Slovakian with Aida / Anita, maybe Romanian with some other friends. I can't work out where she really comes from.

Fantastic lineup on a Saturday, the daytime shift was to put it mildly 'average'. Nighttime rocked. Figured I'd try it on a Tuesday to compare. Daytime was pathetic. Didn't even do any girls until 6pm. Nighttime had some ok lookers show up to spice things up. Tried the pizza the first day and a pasta dish the second. The pizza was decent, the pasta was barely worth 5 euro's. Guy next to me ordered a steak and the thing would have fit in the palm of my hand. A huge fucking plate and a miniature steak and potatoes in the middle.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1475367]It doesn't really bother me how many poor girls the club has as long as there is also a great supply of good GFE girls. Oase has always had many suspect girls for as long as I can remember. Many are still there and some I don't even have a clue what their names are. I just never got attracted to their approach style or attitude.[/QUOTE]+1 on that one.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1475367]What's wrong with this forum?[/QUOTE]You may add tons of reports of rip-off artists at Oase, but very few seems to have the balls to report the names and a short note on what happened with a particular girl. What's that all about? It's not that I don't believe there are rip-off artists and bad performers at Oase, but those reports of late are not much helpful. I mean, Oase must have had 300+ girls attending so far in 2013, but all this thread delivers is perhaps 5- 10 names of bad providers. Guys, you can do better than that!

The very purpose of this forum should be to provide intel of the really good and the really bad providers in order to save money but not at least time when making decisions in a jungle of naked girls. So many girls, so little time.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1475229]. Carla (Rom Erica) A cups, v.slim blonde/green hair, with face piercing, since 2013.[/QUOTE]Carla's "face piercing" on her eyebrow is really a "Fake piercing". It's a tatoo, not metal studs. You should try her Syz, she's really good and has great muscle control.

Beffen

[QUOTE=Beffen1; 1475425]Carla's "face piercing" on her eyebrow is really a "Fake piercing". It's a tatoo, not metal studs. You should try her Syz, she's really good and has great muscle control.

Beffen[/QUOTE]okay She is not quite my typical spec, being a bit skinny and slightly punky, but I note unanimously highly recommended. She comes across as a very confident girl in her abilities and everything. Likes to speak Deutsch more than English or maybe thinks I am a Deutscher.

Did I maybe spot someone rather Beffen looking (anyway looked very familiar - previously seen in World)?

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1475229]Apologies, as I am a somewhat unsocial type, and some girls I never talk to for years and so don't know all the names of long time girls. However I can mention a portion perhaps 50% of the whole line-up. Probably there were 90 to 100 girls all up. Severe shortage of black / Latina girls and just one Thai.[/QUOTE]Syzygies, this is amazing. How do you do this? Do you have a note pad or write it down on an I pad or phone? Anyway, thanks for putting this list up. For those who want to see the list, click on the link, "view original post".

Not a lot to add after Syz's extensive posts. I was there on Thursday, almost all day from noon till 3 AM. I do not like the new food rules and missed the lunch buffet. I do not like pizza and the a la carte did not look so appealing.

Saw Aida, who claims to be Sovakian but stumbled when I asked her a few questions about Bratislava. I dropped it. Who cares? She has a great body and fucks good. She gives better service if you do one hour and most guys do not like that :-D.

Saw Roxana from Romania. There is another Roxy from Serbia. 30 minutes. It was OK. $70 for sex and BJ for 30 minutes with a beautiful girl. You can't beat that.

Saw couple more and with one I went twice. Unfortunately, I do not remember the names now but overall had a great time and I liked it better than GT in NRW, which I went to on Wednesday. The line up at Oase was good to very good. I don't mind the new kino. Almost every girl offered me an introductory BJ in the open kino area.

I can't believe that I am blanking on the name of the girl I went to the room twice and once for one hour. She has been working at Oase for only a week. She is Romanian, petite, slicone B-C cups, black hair pulled tight into a pony tail and angular features. Great service and very friendly. She told me something interesting. She was working at Globe and went on vacation for 4 weeks. Three weeks in cyprus and one week at home. Apparently she gained 2.5 kilos and they sent her back and asked her to come back after she looses it. Globe has a chart of their ideal height to weight ratio. For her height, she is supposed to be 41 kg and now is 43 kg. She is one of the few girls at Oase now that actually has a six pack and she got sent back! No wonder Globe has the reputation of having the best lookers in all of FKK

[quote=syzygies;1475154]club rules are increasing. girls are not permitted in the jacuzzi it seems.[/quote]yes, girls are not allowed in the jacuzzi unless a guy is paying them for their time. so, they can actually go in the jacuzzi if they're "with" a guy. i don't know why anyone would pay a girl to just sit with them in the jacuzzi but hey, lots of guys pay for some weird shit.

also, sex in the sauna is supposedly a big no-no too. girls can't sex in the sauna unless it happens to be with a guy whose name happens to start with the letter "m" and end with the letter "o" with the letters "aur" falling somewhere in between. of course, i remember some of those oase rooms before they installed air conditioning. those rooms could have qualified as a sauna back in those days.

these rep001tered reports of bad service / rudeness / bad attitude surprise me. the only instance of rudeness i experienced my last trip was from emma (blonde) who claimed to be from poland (warsaw upon further questioning). she approached me while i was sitting at the tables just by the garden entrance in the jacuzzi area. in response, i did the standard,"what's your name? where are you from? how long have you been here? etc" conversation. within about 30 seconds of meeting me, she asks me if i want to go to the room. as i was just relaxing after some heavy sessions, i said i was just fine for the moment, to which she stormed off in a huff while scoffing,"too many questions!" i can't imagine that she'd be any good in the room with a bad attitude like that, but i can't really say since i never had the inclination to try her after that abysmal interaction. these girls fail to realize that when they act this way, they are shooting themselves in the foot to the extent that they've ruined any future chance with that same customer even if that customer didn't happen to be ready to go with her at that very moment. also, she is the one who approached me. her frustration would be a bit more understandable if i had instead approached and bothered her (albeit not just for 20 seconds). but this interaction is by for an outlier. very rarely do girls bother me in the club and when they do, i find the interactions quite positive or quickly terminated if i don't wish to interact.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1475436]Syzygies, this is amazing. How do you do this? Do you have a note pad or write it down on an I pad or phone? Anyway, thanks for putting this list up. For those who want to see the list, click on the link, "view original post".[/QUOTE]Not amazing as half the lineup is missing. Sure wrote down abbrev. name for the girls I know. A little more for those I just met, e.g. "Emma blo sag tit". The hard part is to list girls that were absent. E. G. Missed Angelina (if still works there). You can bet I will know the newbie girls' names next time better than I ever remembered before, just by writing them down. There are girls I have met before that I do not remember the face too. E. G. I forget what Ingrid looks like so can't say if she was there or not. I forget blonde Roxy's looks too. Bound to be an error or two. Used Excel to sort names into alpha sequence. Can you believe it. I don't know any of the Alinas. There are several girls I sort of know but forgot the name for now.

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1475438]Saw Aida, who claims to be Slovakian but stumbled when I asked her a few questions about Bratislava. I dropped it. Who cares? She has a great body and fucks good. She gives better service if you do one hour and most guys do not like that :-D.

Saw Roxana from Romania. There is another Roxy from Serbia. 30 minutes. It was OK. $70 for sex and BJ for 30 minutes with a beautiful girl. You can't beat that.[/QUOTE]If Aida (Anita) is not Slovakian, could make sense if she was also Serbian, or Romanian.

Lavinia showed me her holiday snaps at the black sea and in the mountains in Romania. She is one girl I actually believe. Apparently her mother lives in Spain (father in Romania) and hence Lavinia was educated in Spain from a young age.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1475390]Had 4 sessions on my last visit. 3 new girls. 1 regular I've known for years. Out of the 3 the first session was great, a girl who was at Sharks before. The 2 new girls where average service or under. Angelina and "Juicy".

HB[/QUOTE]Can the new good girl be mentioned?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1475571]Can the new good girl be mentioned?[/QUOTE]I did in my post: Angelina and Juicy. Both from Romania, although Juicy claimed to be half Italian.

[QUOTE=Beffen1;1475425]Carla's "face piercing" on her eyebrow is really a "Fake piercing". It's a tatoo, not metal studs.[/QUOTE]I thought it was just make-up and not a tattoo.

HB

After benefiting from all the info on this board, thought it was time for me to chip in a bit.

Anyway had my first visit a Oase last Saturday. Arrived around 3 pm and the place was already half packed looking at the number of locker keys left at the reception.

While wandering around, a brunette with big eyes offered to show me around so off we went for a small tour. Of course the end of the tour ended with a proposal of going to a room which I accepted as her face was definitely to my liking despite some pretty small A cup boobs.

Her name was Jucy or Jessie and she claimed to be half Italian half Ro. While she was pretty sweet during the tour, it was another case of total change once in the room despite the fact I took up the offer of CIM.

Started with BBBJ right away and it was totally mechanical. Understood right away she just wanted to get over with it as fast as she can. Stopped BBBJ without asking and rode me right away cowgirl the fastest she could obviously to make me finish asap.

Stopped her to change positions and entered her doggie style. Within only a few minutes she wanted to change again which really annoyed me since I was just starting to enjoy myself.

While we were supposed to change to missionary, she asked if I wanted to finish with CIM right away which really annoyed me. Since I knew this was going nowhere I accepted and she finished me off in her mouth.

Yet, she didn't even bother to take my full load as she jerked away just when I started to release it full force.

Was a total disappointment, gave her 100 Euros and left quite frustrated.

Spent some time on the deck chair by the pool and went to the Kino. Turned down a few girls til Emma, supposedly from Poland, came to me. She had saggy tits but a very cute face so decided to give it a shot.

That was the second mistake of the day.

In the room she offered a 1 hour session which I accepted. She did BBBJ for like 20mn and it was just plain bad. She tried to change pace here and there but her tech was just plain bad to me.

Then she started riding me. No expression nothing, she looked plain bored. So changed to missionary and I tried to lift her legs up which she didn't allow.

Pissed me off, so asked for doggie style and took her really hard. She just buried her head in the pillow and I finished off.

Barely 40 mn had passed so asked for a few mn of rest. Gave me maybe 2mn before she stood up and said let s go.

Another bad experience for the day.

Went to grab a pizza around 18h00 and met a cool dude who was kind enough to tell me who the famous Lavinia was as well as shared some veteran info with a newbie like me.

That's when I realized I had ignored her when she was trying to catch my attention earlier on.

Looking at the way the place was getting packed I knew I had no chance to get her later.

Wandered around but at 20h00 the wait for rooms had gone insane, with couples waiting for the rooms in the garden as well. Decided to end it and left, which was the right thing to do as the queue to get in went all the way to the parking.

Shared a cab with a Japanese guy and found out he got totally screwed 2 times.

The first time, the girl told him it was 150 for a pussy fucking session. Since he didn't understand what pussy was, he agreed thinking it might be anal or something only to end up paying 150 for a basic session.

Second time, the girl put his dick into her ass without asking, he jerked away but she said too late, you pay me 150 more.

Told him the official rates and told him to agree on the rates before starting a session especially since these girls just love to cheat on Japanese customers who are just not used to discuss prices.

The poor guy was totally frustrated but still took it with a smile at the end telling me it was the price for gaining experience.

Overall I found the Oase line up to be pretty good. Many girl next door looking girls and not too many silicone enhanced boobs which is a good change from Palace.

But I think the number of sharks is as high as anywhere else.

Still will definitely go back again.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1475593]I did in my post: Angelina and Juicy. Both from Romania, although Juicy claimed to be half Italian.

I thought it was just make-up and not a tattoo.

HB[/QUOTE]Nice with Juicy, did she lived up to her Juicy name? LOL.

They claimed to be half Italian if they can speak a little Italian learned from Italian TV-shows back home in RO. LOL

[QUOTE=VonSauer; 1475606]The poor guy was totally frustrated but still took it with a smile at the end telling me it was the price for gaining experience.

Overall I found the Oase line up to be pretty good. Many girl next door looking girls and not too many silicone enhanced boobs which is a good change from Palace.

But I think the number of sharks is as high as anywhere else.

Still will definitely go back again.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report. But I would recommend world or Mainhattan in Hessen.

But GT or Colo would be better IMHO.

For newbies I think you could sample some new girls but if you want to make your trip worth it better stick with some of the girls reviewed here and try some new girls as well. In that case you wouldn't end up with all shitty sessions as at Oase the number of sharks has increased. Even among regulars like Yakob seems to get not so good service as compared to before.

Pizza to me was nice.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1475593]I did in my post: Angelina and Juicy. Both from Romania, although Juicy claimed to be half Italian.

HB[/QUOTE]You appeared to mention 3 new girls but only chose to name 2 whose performance was not so great. The unnamed girl was supposed to be good but you avoid to name her?

I don't want to hide her from you. LOL. She wanted to leave the day after I fucked her (no, not because of that). Her name was Inna from Latvia, former Yulia drom Sharks. She works very unregularly.

HB

[QUOTE=VonSauer; 1475606]Went to grab a pizza around 18h00 and met a cool dude who was kind enough to tell me who the famous Lavinia was as well as shared some veteran info with a newbie like me.

That's when I realized I had ignored her when she was trying to catch my attention earlier on.

Looking at the way the place was getting packed I knew I had no chance to get her later.

Wandered around but at 20h00 the wait for rooms had gone insane, with couples waiting for the rooms in the garden as well. Decided to end it and left, which was the right thing to do as the queue to get in went all the way to the parking.

Still will definitely go back again.[/QUOTE]That was me dude. Lavinia was actually available for a small window after dinner. I chatted to her briefly and mentioned I had recommended her. The wait for rooms queue looked long but no more than 15 mins max.

Looks like some of the new girls are dangerous. I will try to find some good ones in the near future. I already ruled out juicy Lucy and Emma thanks.

I have been much luckier with newer girls this year. See some of my recommendations.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1475442]I can't believe that I am blanking on the name of the girl I went to the room twice and once for one hour. She has been working at Oase for only a week. She is Romanian, petite, slicone B-C cups, black hair pulled tight into a pony tail and angular features. Great service and very friendly. She told me something interesting. She was working at Globe and went on vacation for 4 weeks. Three weeks in cyprus and one week at home. Apparently she gained 2.5 kilos and they sent her back and asked her to come back after she looses it. Globe has a chart of their ideal height to weight ratio. For her height, she is supposed to be 41 kg and now is 43 kg. She is one of the few girls at Oase now that actually has a six pack and she got sent back! No wonder Globe has the reputation of having the best lookers in all of FKK[/QUOTE]Which FKK is Globe and where is it?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1475765]I don't want to hide her from you. LOL. She wanted to leave the day after I fucked her (no, not because of that). Her name was Inna from Latvia, former Yulia drom Sharks. She works very unregularly.

HB[/QUOTE]Ah yes sorry, I see the Inna report now. Not sure why I missed it before.

Seems that the Customers are not liking some of the girls and some of the girls are not liking the customers LOL, (I don't mean you of course) or maybe the rules, or just the location is inconvenient.

Works irregularly, only when horny? LOL

I am worried that my sex-bomb Sylvia (Hun) has disappeared too. I didn't even collect the phone number as she assured me she would be around. Her techniques were experienced and her sexual passion was high. You could tell, she wanted more than just the money. Some girls really know how to hook a customer as a regular. Its a great pity they aren't all that brilliant.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1475817]Works irregularly, only when horny? LOL .[/QUOTE]Horny = broke. Yes.

HB

[QUOTE=VonSauer; 1475606]Shared a cab with a Japanese guy and found out he got totally screwed 2 times.

The first time, the girl told him it was 150 for a pussy fucking session. Since he didn't understand what pussy was, he agreed thinking it might be anal or something only to end up paying 150 for a basic session.

Second time, the girl put his dick into her ass without asking, he jerked away but she said too late, you pay me 150 more.

Told him the official rates and told him to agree on the rates before starting a session especially since these girls just love to cheat on Japanese customers who are just not used to discuss prices.

The poor guy was totally frustrated but still took it with a smile at the end telling me it was the price for gaining experience.[/QUOTE]Reading about the girls who do this kind of bullshit always pisses me off! And, I get tired of the guys who always find some basis for defending this and similar rip-off type of behaviors from the girls. It's just despicable to treat a customer this way, and there's no excuse for it. Any tute found out to be engaging in this type of behavior should be outed by name here on the board post haste. Better yet, she should just be fired. Dismissed from the club. Booted out. At the very least, she should be denied business and "starved out" by mongers in the know. Let her put that in her ass and smoke it!

[QUOTE=VonSauer; 1475606]Shared a cab with a Japanese guy and found out he got totally screwed 2 times.

The first time, the girl told him it was 150 for a pussy fucking session. Since he didn't understand what pussy was, he agreed thinking it might be anal or something only to end up paying 150 for a basic session.

Second time, the girl put his dick into her ass without asking, he jerked away but she said too late, you pay me 150 more.

Told him the official rates and told him to agree on the rates before starting a session especially since these girls just love to cheat on Japanese customers who are just not used to discuss prices.

But I think the number of sharks is as high as anywhere else.[/QUOTE]Its a pity we don't have the names of these girls to be avoided. Normally its not necessary to discuss prices unless you don't know the prices which can be fatal. I just say I know the prices if the girl should mention the topic.

Its much easier for regular attenders to the club as we get to watch guys being taken by the girl and see what happens at pay the money time. This helps to get some idea of the sharks. I am rarely going with a girl immediately the first time I meet her. If any aggressive behaviour then definitely not.

Actually I went with Amalia first time I met her straight off, but that was an accident, as I thought she was someone else. It was a bit dark and my eyes were not adjusted and anyway her body was amazing. I was lucky she turned out to be a very good girl.

Can be definitely worth having a list of highly recommended very nice girls on the first visit. I think on my first visit to World last year, a very World experienced buddy showed up by chance, and I could ask him if he knew anything about certain girls I liked the look of. Most of them got the thumbs up. Not that many sharks at World. Some girls are not sharks but just perform poorly. That is a different problem. So try World some day. Can take a taxi from Giessen railway station.

[QUOTE=RickPfl; 1475801]Which FKK is Globe and where is it?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Globe is in Zurich, Switzerland. Just a short train trip east from the city. More expensive. 140CHF / 30mins. But no problems with level of service IMO.

[QUOTE=VonSauer; 1475606]Told him the official rates and told him to agree on the rates before starting a session especially since these girls just love to cheat on Japanese customers who are just not used to discuss prices.

The poor guy was totally frustrated but still took it with a smile at the end telling me it was the price for gaining experience.[/QUOTE]"The price for gaining experience" is called "tuition" in Japan, high tuition though.

FKK is a kind of school to him, where he can learn a lot of things.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1476006]Some girls are not sharks but just perform poorly.[/QUOTE]I agree with this. Sometimes a distinction can be made between "sharkiness" versus being "just" a poor performer. The former always goes with the latter, but not vice versa. For example, a girl could have just plain bad technique and not know what she is doing. Or, maybe she's just not really into the job and it shows. Those types of things don't necessarily make her a shark. She's simply a poor performer for whatever reason, but not a shifty shark (and also should be avoided nevertheless!). But now a shark? Poor performance is inherently a part of her modus operandi!

[QUOTE=Boofer; 1474990]Hi there Maxime, can you advise your current top 3 clubs? Have limited time in Germany and would love to put it to good use. Last year enjoyed Oase and Sharks.

Regards.[/QUOTE]Of course it is very personal, but if you (like me) think the service of the girls is of the highest priority (more than club facilities, etc) , then the more smaller clubs are preferable (Oase used to be one of the few large clubs with good service of the girls) , and most of them are in NRW (so not in Hessen / Frankfurt area).

My current (service) top-3 is Haus Panthera, Babylon and Freude (or Club Neby).

From the bigger clubs, only Sharks and Acapulco currently (!) are on acceptable level regarding service of the girls, closely followed still by Oase (it is not as bad as Palace or Golden Time yet).

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1475205]Regarding service World is more consistent than Oase. Same for Sharks. Both clubs do have a lot of regulars, Oase was losing a lot of regulars, there's many business people, sex tourists, messe audience. They are satisfied with lower service levels and willing to pay more than the standard and to take sessions longer than 30min. So at Oase (same at Palace) you will get good service as a regular from girls who know you. You may get poor service from new girls if you are chosing a 30min standard session. At Sharks and World that is not as common. So I will still visit Oase but currently I prefer Sharks. And sometimes World for a change.

HB[/QUOTE]+1.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1475185]I see it differently. I am more looks oriented. Oase became boring early in the year due to a weak line-up. Now there has been a massive influx of new girls during 2013. Many pretty gazelles with hot bodies.[/QUOTE]Indeed, Oase still has the best (looking) porn line up, but as said, much less consistent in service than it was before. Of course still enough good girls in the 120+ line up, but the lack of active foreplay, makes it not worthwhile to drive so far when much better girls can be found in other clubs.

[QUOTE=The Cane;1475864]Reading about the girls who do this kind of bullshit always pisses me off! And, I get tired of the guys who always find some basis for defending this and similar rip-off type of behaviors from the girls. It's just despicable to treat a customer this way, and there's no excuse for it. Any tute found out to be engaging in this type of behavior should be outed by name here on the board post haste. Better yet, she should just be fired. Dismissed from the club. Booted out. At the very least, she should be denied business and "starved out" by mongers in the know. Let her put that in her ass and smoke it![/QUOTE]+1

And the big change is that before Mauro / management did control the service level of the girls somehow, but now focus is on getting as much tourists / bizz men inside as possible, regardless of the service. That's why many regulars (except Syzygies) look elsewhere.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519; 1476067]"The price for gaining experience" is called "tuition" in Japan, high tuition though.

FKK is a kind of school to him, where he can learn a lot of things.[/QUOTE]If they are some newbies Japanesse reading this be aware that Romanian girls at Oase likes to pull a fast one on you because:

A) you don't clarify the price.

B) you will pay whatever the amount the girl ask without arguing.

I have met few Japanesse who were charged 100 euro for 30 minutes session. And one fat guy was charged 400 euro for 1 hour anal.

But got to love the Indians.

A) haggling is the norm

B) putting in the girls ass and the refusing to pay is the norm (according to the girls the Indians argument is that anal or vaginal is the same as he is paying for sex)

C) even after shower and wipe they still smell like moving tandorri chicken.

I have mentioned all girls I can think of. Quite a few girls present that I don't know. Big turn out of girls. Not so many men.
No queuing for rooms. Only one or two black girls, and one Thai.
Defaults: mid size (KF36), mid height, straight long dark brunette

- Aida (Slo/Rom Anita/Anna) B- cups, voluptuous (fab ass) brunette, since 2013
- Alexa (Rom half Thai) A cups, v.short slim brunette, long term
- Alexia (Rom) B cups, tall slim curvy brunette glasses, since early 2013?
- Allysia (Rom) C? cups, tall voluptuous brunette with white boob tube, since Aug 2013
- Amalia (Rom/Macedonian) B+ cups, slim white skinned brunette, 30 Y.O., since early 2013
- Andrea (Rom) A+ cups, slim tanned brunette fringe pony-tail, pussy diamond, since Aug 2013
- Anna (Rom?) C cups, Voluptuous dark blonde, slightly bigger than Lavinia, since Aug 2013
- Bella (Rom) B- cups, curvy blonde, pretty face upturned nose, since Mid 2013
- Bianca (Rom) A cups, tall slim black hair, long term
- Carla (Rom Erica) A cups, v.slim blonde/green hair, with fake face piercing, since 2013.
- Carla (Slo/Rom Angela/Julia), B- cups, m.tall slim, l.brunette, incredible ass, since 2012?
- Cassandra (Rom) B cups, voluptuous blonde bombshell with tats, since ? 2013
- Cindy (Gha/Deu), saggy A cups, slim non-curvy med short dark skinned girl, since mid 2013
- Cleopatra (Rom) A cups, voluptuous brunette in single plait, since ? 2013
- Crina (Rom) C cups, voluptuous wavy brunette, since 2010
- Cynthia (Ser/Rom? - Vitrina), C+ cups, v.tall voluptuous tan skin, since mid 2013
- Dora (Rom) A cups, tall slim kooky platinum blonde, long term
- Elena (Rom) A+ cups, slim (ass increasing) tall dark blonde (l.br with blonde streaks), since Aug 2011
- Elizabeth (Cze Eliza, Liz) A+ cups, tall voluptuous brunette, since early 2013.
- Emma (Rom) saggy A cups, med blonde, since July? 2013
- Jasmine(Rom Yasmine) B cups, v.tall slim brunette with glsses (sometimes), since 2013?
- Jennifer (Rom? via Madrid) B+ cups, voluptuous sway back brunette, bee-sting lips, since early 2011
- Jessica (Rom) A- cups, slim brunette (hair changed to brown), hook nose, long term?
- Jonessa (Rom? via Spain - Evita, Roxy) B- cups, tall v.voluptuous curvy brunette (fab ass) tanned skin, since mid 2012
- Julia (Rom Alexia's sister) B- cups, v.slim tall (model) light brunette, since 2012?
- Katia (Rom) B cups, plumb dark red hair, since 2013?
- Kiana (Rom) C+ cups, voluptuous l.blonde, since Aug 2013?
- Laura (Rom) C to D cups, tall big voluptuous brunette, since early 2013.
- Lucia (Ita/Rom?) A cups, large short dark blonde short hair thick belly, since 5y+
- Lucy (Rom) A cups, v.slim brunette, since July? 2013
- Magda (Rom ex-Daria) A cups, slim blonde, significant lower back tats, since 2010?
- Marisa (Rom), A- cups, v.slim short blonde short hair, since mid 2013?
- May (Thai - Mae) A cups, v.short, tanned skin, since Feb 2011
- Melanie (Deu) B? cups, v.tall v.big blonde, makes goggle eyes, long term
- Mellisa (Rom) 0 cups, slim brunette, used to smoke a lot, long term
- Nina (Deu) A+ cups, tall v.slim blonde, eagle wings tat on back, long term
- Patrizia (Bra) B cups, voluptuous dark skin, since May 2011
- Rebecca (Rom) B+ cups, voluptuous+ ass curly blonde, since mid 2013
- Sara(h) (Rom) C cups, voluptuous brunette, since July 2013
- Steffi (Rus) B implants, slim blonde, long term
- Sunny (Deu - not?) C+ implants, v.tall big size, v.short blonde hair, long term
- Vanessa (Rom Montana) A+ cups, slim curvy short pretty blonde (great ass), since 2013
- Victoria (Pol), A cups, slim to medium older blonde, long term

Not seen today:
- Adele (Cze? Elizabeth's friend),? Since 2013
- Alicia (Rom) B+ cups, tall voluptuous slight tanned brunette, long term 2y+
- Ambra (Rom Raffaela) C impants, voluptuous golden blonde, oiled skin, long term
- Amelia (Rom) saggy A cups, slim tall tanned reddish-brunette, since Feb 2012
- Anelia (Bul), C+ cups, voluptuous sandy reddish-blonde, since2012
- Angelina (Rom), A cups,tall slim tanned brunette with face piercing
- Anka/Anca? (Rom) A? cups, slim blonde, since mid 2013
- Anna (Rom) A cups, slim blonde, long term
- Bianca (Rom Amalia's friend), A cups, Tall slim brunette, since 2013
- Deborah (Rom) saggy A cups, slim curly redhead, since 2012?
- Diana (DomR) C implants, short slim dark skin brunette, great lips, since 2010
- Eva(Ken), saggy B cups, v.tall slim black girl, since 2013
- Gabriella(Ven) C implants, short slightly plump m.dark skin brunette, v.long term
- Gloria (Rom) saggy B- cups, voluptuous brunette, tats, long term
- Ilona (Ven "Zeta-Jones") D implants, tall big tanned skin, upturned nose, long term
- Judith(Hun) A cups, slim wavy l.brown hair, sky blue eyes, long term
- Katarina (Rus) B- cups, plump brunette with glasses, long term
- Kim (Thai) saggy A cups, slim tall dark skin, since 5 y?
- Laura (Rom) A cups, slim blonde, since July? 2013
- Lavinia (Rom Anni) C cups, voluptuous blonde often with spiral curls, upturned nose, since Aug 2012, ex Anna (World)
- Luisa (Mar), 0 cups, slim tanned skin brunette, v.long term
- Luna(DomR) C implants, slim voluptuous black girl, since early 2012
- Maria(Deu) B cups, slim brunette, may be gone, Mon&Wed , since 2013
- Mia (Cub) ? Cups, slim black girl, since 2013
- Monica (Bul) C implants, tall slim-voluptuous brunette, long term
- Morena (Rom?), B cups, large m.tall brunette, upturn nose, since 2013
- Nellie (Rom?) A cups, v.tall slim dark blonde, since mid 2013?
- Nichole (Rom) C cups, voluptuous tall, v. long black hair, pretty face, since 2012
- Paula (Rom) B+ cups swollen nipples, voluptuous curly haired light brunette (dark blonde), since mid 2013
- Sara(h) (Rom) B cups, voluptuous brunette, long term
- Sophia (Rom) B- cups, short slim-voluptuous blonde, since Aug? 2013
- Suzanne (Jam) C+ cups, voluptuous black girl, since Sep 2012
- Sylvia(Hun) saggy A cups, tall slim d.blonde, since Jul 2013
- Tina Turner Sisters, massive D cups

Girls done today: Bella, Amalia, Carla (Slo Julia). Details later. No bad sessions.
Many girls on the "to do" list: Julia, Jessica, Bianca, Carla (Erica), Jennifer (again - last session a long while back), absent Sophie, Adele.
Intended to try new Sarah but she left around 10PM.

ABC but not in that order.

My Wednesday visit started with bumping into the new much slimmer Crina who has lost a lot of kilos basically same as me by laying off the all sweet foods and starchy carbs in my case. However I told her I would like to try a new girl first.

Really was thinking of Sarah with the nice sized tits but she wasn't in evidence at the right time.

Decided to try Bella (Romanian of course) with a cute and naughty looking face with upturned nose. Blonde average height and a not quite slim with B- cups. Bella gave okay kissing, reasonable BBBJ but not very deep. Did it like sucking on a very large lolly. Seemed to like the DATY. Not a very active girl and very "go with the flow" type. So nothing was wrong and nothing was specially exciting, maybe a little lacklustre."Fuckable" about sums it up. Would I repeat? Maybe, but depending on if I could not find any better options. Not going to the top of list by any means.

Bella: Face 7. 5, body 7, performance 6. 5 (average).

2nd up, Amalia, medium height quite white skin, magnificent wide slung B+ to C- cups with no sag. Aged 30 nurse has no child so body still great. Amalia acts just like a GF to me, including great kissing, so sessions are always great. I specially like it when she rides me cowgirl. A favourite repeated many times. Romanian but Macedonian blood so doesn't look very typical. Will go away in October to get some teeth work. Doesn't smile much except when make her laugh. Ass is a fraction small. Not to be confused with tan skinned Amelia with saggy tits.

Amalia: Face 7. 5, body 8. 5, performance 8. 5.

Next the kooky Carla (claims Slovakia?) who was once once Angie / Angela but is called Julia by her friends. Slightly reddish light brown hair I think. Partially reversed nipples that pop out when licked. B- cups. Very curvy gazelle with best ass in the house. She likes checking out her body in the mirror. Can't guess why as it's so perfect. That's what gets me in. I can't resist her body. Have to put up with her chit chat. Kissing yes by not exactly DFK. Liked the DATY. Has her music playing. At first she is arching her back to escape the sensation which makes it difficult then later she changes to make it much more easy once she is really getting into it. Copious juices start to flow. She likes it but did not want it to be too quick LOL. Nice BBBJ and has a tight pussy. Great fuck in several positions, especially doggy with the view of the magnificent ass. She did not mind me putting a finger very deep in her pussy while getting BBBJ which turned me on a lot. Not sure if she does any extras like anal or CIM. She did suggest come on her face, but that is too ugly for my liking, and I would certainly not pay 50 for it (since it does not interest me). Was 3rd session all up with Carla. Not to be confused with skinny blonde / green haired Carla from Romania (also known as Erica).

Carla / Julia: Face 7. 5, body 9. 5, performance 7. 5.

Didn't take any extras, only extra time.

No girl at Oase has a face that scores 10, and even Marie, when she used to be here, would only get a 9 for me. For performance, Sylvia (Hun) would score damn close to a 10. Not sure if she is coming back to Oase. I really hope she is just on holiday.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1476540]If they are some newbies Japanesse reading this be aware that Romanian girls at Oase likes to pull a fast one on you because:

A) you don't clarify the price.

B) you will pay whatever the amount the girl ask without arguing.

I have met few Japanesse who were charged 100 euro for 30 minutes session. And one fat guy was charged 400 euro for 1 hour anal.

But got to love the Indians.

A) haggling is the norm

B) putting in the girls ass and the refusing to pay is the norm (according to the girls the Indians argument is that anal or vaginal is the same as he is paying for sex)

C) even after shower and wipe they still smell like moving tandorri chicken.[/QUOTE]There are reports of girls at Oase going the other way of offering 20 euro sessions or Italian guys going from girl to girl to say 20 or 30 and eventually you may find a desperate girl who says yes to the deal to make some money if their business is slow. Sometimes you get standard session plus CIM for 50 from some girls.

I had one girl reported on extensively on this thread throw in rimming my ass for 50.

Colourful writing CaptCabins.

Thanks for the list, Syzy. Is Isabella / Lila from the Polish Mafia still around? Where is the original tall, slim, B cup, brunette Alexia with glasses from 2011-2012?

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1477112]Thanks for the list, Syzy. Is Isabella / Lila from the Polish Mafia still around? Where is the original tall, slim, B cup, brunette Alexia with glasses from 2011-2012?[/QUOTE]Bb. Alexia is still at Oase.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1477112]Thanks for the list, Syzy. Is Isabella / Lila from the Polish Mafia still around? Where is the original tall, slim, B cup, brunette Alexia with glasses from 2011-2012?[/QUOTE]Don't know much about the Polish group I'm afraid. I'm sure several would be present. I know only about 60% of girls present on Wed at a guess, probably a higher percentage of the pretty all natural gazelles (my spec).

Alexia listed is the original tall slim one with glasses and a purposeful not so feminine walk, I think, who appears to be sister of Julia. I wasn't aware she had been around for so long. I have a feint feeling you are stirring me because I did not know when she started and hence put a big question mark on the date. LOL

I forgot, the very curvy blonde Roxanna, at Oase long term, was present too.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1477168]Alexia listed is the original tall slim one with glasses and a purposeful not so feminine walk, I think, who appears to be sister of Julia. I wasn't aware she had been around for so long. I have a feint feeling you are stirring me because I did not know when she started and hence put a big question mark on the date. LOL[/QUOTE]Alexia, I don't recall her with glasses, we have a interesting conversation about life and thwn we went together zu Zimmer, she was quite hot in Zimmer, we stood up and had sex on the bed looking into the surrounding mirrors.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1477168]Alexia listed is the original tall slim one with glasses and a purposeful not so feminine walk, I think, who appears to be sister of Julia. I wasn't aware she had been around for so long. I have a feint feeling you are stirring me because I did not know when she started and hence put a big question mark on the date. LOL[/QUOTE]Although it's in my nature to stir the pot it definitely wasn't the case here. I'm glad she's around and look forward to seeing her again. I read she left oase.

Again thanks for the list. Always find those useful.

[QUOTE=Yakob; 1477061]There are reports of girls at Oase going the other way of offering 20 euro sessions or Italian guys going from girl to girl to say 20 or 30 and eventually you may find a desperate girl who says yes to the deal to make some money if their business is slow. Sometimes you get standard session plus CIM for 50 from some girls.

I had one girl reported on extensively on this thread throw in rimming my ass for 50.

Colourful writing CaptCabins.[/QUOTE]Really. Wow ok I have never experienced that. Most I ever gotten is rimming for free and extra time. Never had 20 euro offer of sex and com with 50 euro. Hmm I am tempted to do this by visiting clubs on slow period and on odd days like Sunday LOL.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1475767]That was me dude.

I have been much luckier with newer girls this year. See some of my recommendations.[/QUOTE]I am not surprise you met Sygiez and he is one one of the writers that doesn't mind sharing good and bad girls. So if I met someone who is willing to share info at Oase and recommends Lavinia then chances are I have met Syzgies LOL.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1476700]- Vanessa (Rom Montana) A+ cups, slim curvy short pretty blonde (great ass) , since 2013.

Intended to try new Sarah but she left around 10PM.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your extremely helpful list, as it gave me a very good refresher before I hit Oase yesterday afternoon. It is always good to be reminded of the names of those I had met in the past so that I would not look too ignorant asking `eh, what is your name again? '

But I think you have conflated 2 persons. There were 2 Vanessas present yesterday. I tried the 2013 Vanessa for the first time, as for some strange reason she kept on coming to me the whole afternoon to ask me to go with her, even though there were many other customers for her to work on. Service was standard. The old Montana was also around.

I also tried a new Sara (Rom) , who said that it was spelt without an `h'. I am not sure whether she is the same Sara (h) in your list as she claimed that she has been here for just 2 weeks. She was short, hair appears a slightly reddish brunette, more like a B cup, and more gazellish than voluptuous, and so sweet and pretty that I had to take her to the room straight away. Service was standard though and she seemed not quite sure what to do; so I presume she is really 2 weeks old.

Visited Oase after a long time yesterday, redone and better; at least the restaurant and excellent food; they serve fresh Pizzas and Pastas; wow! Reached there at 3. 30PM, initially the line up was OK and not many males, so quite much upselling. Waited for almost an hour before I picked the first goddess; Valencia- mix of Austria and Brazil. Not an absolute stunner, but I like her atypical features-half Brazilian, half European and yes good height with good assets at top and bottom end (I like curvy ones; not in to very skinny and tiny ones). Face more like Brazil, OK English but excellent service. BBBJ was very good, willing to kiss and OK with DATY (no fingers inside allowed though-fine with me). Money, time and most importantly juice well spent (at certain age it is the most important as we all know). Both the line up and the crowd swelled up as the time went by. Many stunners now but I could see some attitude with beautiful faces and body. One of them, Maurreen (hope I remember and spelled correctly, very beautiful face and nice body) was asked about kissing and when was told it was not available (for me kiss is essential) , a gentle decline followed. For some reason got offended. By 9 pm long queues for the Zimmer. Got hold of a tall tanned Romanian (Nancy with a tattoo depicting Nicholas in-between the shoulder) , good but hurried service, which I could understand. Time was the most important as it was full house outside. Spent around 6 hours and came back. Still one more day left in Frankfurt.

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1477196]Alexia, I don't recall her with glasses, we have a interesting conversation about life and thwn we went together zu Zimmer, she was quite hot in Zimmer, we stood up and had sex on the bed looking into the surrounding mirrors.[/QUOTE]I don't recall her ever being without the glasses to be honest, so not sure if you refer to the same one.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1477112]Thanks for the list, Syzy. Is Isabella / Lila from the Polish Mafia still around? Where is the original tall, slim, B cup, brunette Alexia with glasses from 2011-2012?[/QUOTE]Lily has not been seen neither on Wed or Friday. The Polish contingent remains with Isabel and MILF Victoria. Perhaps Lily is on vacation or that time of the month again, who knows?

Alexia, skinny / slim with black and white trim glasses was seen on both Wed and last night.

BTW, Steff is back and was fully booked all night.

The lineup for the room was horrendous. Avg wait time was 20 min.

Locals are hedging themselves by sharing the wealth at Shark and Mainhattan. Only tourists and locals that live 10 km radius are attending Oase.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;1477457]But I think you have conflated 2 persons. There were 2 Vanessas present yesterday. I tried the 2013 Vanessa for the first time, as for some strange reason she kept on coming to me the whole afternoon to ask me to go with her, even though there were many other customers for her to work on. Service was standard. The old Montana was also around.[/QUOTE]okay I was only going by reports of others that Vanessa used to be called Montana perhaps somewhere else, but could be I got mixed with a different girl. I will drop the Montana bit, since I have not talked to her and got that directly. The Vanessa I refer to (2013) , is a very good looking blonde with good body, great ass, but gets rather so-so reports about her performance I think.

[QUOTE]I also tried a new Sara (Rom) , who said that it was spelt without an `h'. I am not sure whether she is the same Sara (h) in your list as she claimed that she has been here for just 2 weeks. She was short, hair appears a slightly reddish brunette, more like a B cup, and more gazellish than voluptuous, and so sweet and pretty that I had to take her to the room straight away. Service was standard though and she seemed not quite sure what to do; so I presume she is really 2 weeks old.[/QUOTE]I did not ask how to spell it since wasn't booking her. Hair colour sounds roughly right although not exactly reddish like Deborah, but I know what you mean. Bronze to copper perhaps, not very dark. I would not think much less than average height which could be short to you, but plenty of others a lot shorter. LOL Often the girls are sitting so its hard to tell how tall they are if not standing right next to me. Tits could be only a B+ (similar to a C-). Medium size to me, and yes could qualify for the gazelle section, definitely not overweight. In saying voluptuous, I do not mean overweight in any way, but rather nicely curvy and not skinny / slim. I think just 2 weeks and looks timid.

I am more than happy to show her what to do sometime. You could be a little more detailed about the service. I mean was BBBJ soft and slow, deep or shallow, fast, toothy, or not at all?

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1477112]Thanks for the list, Syzy. Is Isabella / Lila from the Polish Mafia still around? Where is the original tall, slim, B cup, brunette Alexia with glasses from 2011-2012?[/QUOTE]Banana man,

Confirmed, Polish Lily was on vacation in Poland and just returned yesterday so she started her first day back at Oase today (Saturday). She always look nice, a real girl next door type.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1477112]Is Isabella / Lila from the Polish Mafia still around?[/QUOTE]Both Lila and Alicia (Pol) were back for their first day yesterday afternoon, so the Polish mafia is almost complete. I have no reports to make as all my regulars were back and I did not need to experiment with new ones.

The wait at dinner time was terrible yesterday; my Spaghetti Bolognese took 30 minutes to come and it tasted ghastly. Rooms were also in short supply by evening time. The crowd thinned out by 10. 30pm, which is very strange for a Saturday night. Some girls told me that this was because the Italians no longer stay the whole day and night as there is no longer continuous supply of free food!

There very few men in the early afternoon. Some of the girls grumbled that the new arrangements were keeping customers away and that they had absolutely no business so far. Lavinia, on the other hand, said to me that she was grabbed every time she left the washroom such that she had no time even to enjoy a quiet smoke!

When a large group of orientals arrived later in the afternoon, the girls attacked them with glee, and processed them super fast again and again. So, I think they probably finally got their required returns for the day just from that group.

I tried another new girl today, a Marina from Romania, who left World for Oase because she said that she could hardly make enough money at World to cover even essential expenses like entrance fee and transport. She was very obliging and passively allowed me to tell her how I wanted it. But I felt very guilty after a while as she looked and behaved like a very sweet girl (she was 18 and looked that age) , such that I finished quickly and gave her a tip.

[QUOTE=TankTank123; 1478258]There very few men in the early afternoon. Some of the girls grumbled that the new arrangements were keeping customers away and that they had absolutely no business so far. Lavinia, on the other hand, said to me that she was grabbed every time she left the washroom such that she had no time even to enjoy a quiet smoke!

I tried another new girl today, a Marina from Romania, who left World for Oase because she said that she could hardly make enough money at World to cover even essential expenses like entrance fee and transport.[/QUOTE]Oase has been really busy at times but Sunday day business could be significantly affected by special entry price at Sharks which has a few good quality girls for looks even early.

It's interesting that with major superstars like Lena gone, Lavinia has been able to become a top in demand girl, not by superstar talents, but good looks, a good attitude, goals for her future, and good honest hard work. A few other girls could well learn from this if they are not too stupid. Collecting regular customers and a good reputation works wonders. For some reason many girls concentrate on processing newbies. Hard to understand.

If Marina should emulate, she could also increase her earnings dramatically, and it's not that hard to earn better at Oase.

My recent World visit saw the club very quiet up until guys started arriving very late. Tough for the girls to do well. No one looked really busy early Friday evening.

Howie, Scott your favourite Maya is back in Germany!

[QUOTE=TankTank123;1477775]Both Lila and Alicia (Pol) were back for their first day yesterday afternoon, so the Polish mafia is almost complete. I have no reports to make as all my regulars were back and I did not need to experiment with new ones.[/QUOTE]I would highly recommend Lila / Isabella (the round face girl I presume?).

Alicia is better looking but no dfk only lfk when I was with her.

Most of the Polish girls (well all the ones I have met in Oase) have great attitude.

Hi all,

Just wondering can an Oase girl say no to a customer based on Mauro old / new rules?

If I plan to have a lesbian show between 2 different girls can we select 2 different girls that don't know each other and can they reject the mongers offer?

- I am thinking of pairing Alicia poland / Alexia with one of the Tina turner sister.

Is I am not mistakes for lesbian show it is 100 euro for each girl for 30 minutes am I right? Can I have oral sex from both of them or is the price only for the ladies to bonk / lick each other only without sex with me?

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1478442]Howie, Scott your favourite Maya is back in Germany![/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel Captain, though not sure if she's a favourite of mine yet as I've yet to fuck her for the first time.

We will see.

Howie

with a short stopover in frankfurt this past weekend, i made a brief visit to oase last saturday. my previous two visits this year back in march and july were pretty crap. with the recent chatter of an improved line up consisting of a large influx of newbies, i figured this was as good a time as any to check it out again.

well i have to say that i was not too disappointed this time around. arrived at 8pm and stayed until the early hours. was fairly busy early on until 11pm and then the crowd started to taper off. overall a fairly subdued night. tried the special pizza which was quite good. only had to wait ten minutes for this to be prepared but then that was around 11pm when it was not too busy in the restaurant.

had two encounters during my stay and scoped out two others for next time when i plan to revisit in november.

my first was a repeat (second time) with alexia from romania. the tallish brunette with awesome gazelle ass and exquisite b cups. wears glasses now but when we first met she had not. a lot have been said about her in this forum and the report consensus have been mixed. she looked damn hot that evening so i had no hesitation in seeing her, especially seeing that ass and those tits of hers again. we first met at the end of last year and i was amazed on how she remembered me. she knew what i enjoyed and when we had been together. i mistakenly mentioned november but she instantly corrected me with december which was spot on. in the room, she was open to all kind of services. my choice and more than i would normally go for. she was even complaining how i wouldn't dfk her passionately enough, lol, as i only gave her light pecking kisses. i normally reserve this intimacy for my fkk wives. as i hadn't had backdoor action for a while, i couldn't pass up the opportunity of invading that awesome pooper of hers. whilst she knelt before me in a praying position at the edge of the bed with her butt exposed, i entered her from behind standing upright and pumped away. it was bliss.

alexia is one of those who is a ymmv kind of girl. she has good rapport if she likes you. she chats a lot with her fellow co-workers, the oase bar staff and also has some hardcore admirers. quite playful too at times. after i spent my time with her, she was quickly swooped up by one of her regulars for the next few hours.

later on that night, i saw a petite babe who had been absent all evening until 1am when she made a grand entrance into the main room. slim, a cups, cute butt, bleached blonde. face so and so with a temporary tattoo of three stars above her left eye. goes by the name of carla and previously known as erica at world and daniela at sharks. she had that kind of nasty look about her and so i jumped at the chance to take her to the room for a session. inside she was pretty much up for anything. before you could say 'flash gordon', i ended up being balls deep in that tight backdoor of hers. her muscle control was outstanding. she squeezed every last drop out from me. so much so, i was out of commission for the rest of the evening after that.

two that were also on my radar that night were blonde 'bubble but' roxanna and an unknown by the name of carmen. both from romania. carmen had short cropped light brown hair, solid body, medium height with a tattoo at the back of her neck. the funny thing about carmen was that she had a slight resemblance that reminded me facially to former world / sharks star adrianna though i knew it was not her. does anyone have any reports on this hottie carmen?

others that were of interest to me were slim blonde vanessa and another slim, short haired brunette, no tattoos and whose name i did not catch. has same body type as vanessa but more flat chested. be interested to learn more about her if anyone knows.

to wrap things up a pretty intense night for me though it ended with a slight disappointment. this being my third visit to oase this year, i left being still none the wiser on who lavinia is. it's like a quest for the holy bloody grail. lol.

looking back maybe i should have asked alexia.

howie

[quote=howie; 1478630]to wrap things up a pretty intense night for me though it ended with a slight disappointment. this being my third visit to oase this year, i left being still none the wiser on who lavinia is. it's like a quest for the holy bloody grail.

howie[/quote]you will have no chance of seeing lavinia if you arrive at 8 pm. her sessions are long ones and she leaves at 10 pm to get back to giessen. to get her, you have to come at a less busy time, wait at the money lockers area and pounce when her previous customer is still getting money out of the locker. otherwise she will be waylaid by other customers on the way to the showers. i succeeded with this strategy on last saturday and sunday afternoon. but i was almost foiled on sunday as her previous customer kept his money in the men's changing room downstairs and she therefore waited at the top of the stairs instead. luckily she peeped into the bar area for a few seconds and i spotted her face.

Hi Howie,

Would you say Alexia has a tight rectum for anal sex? Which is tighter Alexia or Carla?

Reason I ask is because I want to know how you define tight as when I pay for anal I like the feeling of tightness but with some girls having sex in their ass is just like having sex with their pussy LOL.

[quote=tanktank123;1478651]you will have no chance of seeing lavinia if you arrive at 8 pm. her sessions are long ones and she leaves at 10 pm to get back to giessen. to get her, you have to come at a less busy time, wait at the money lockers area and pounce when her previous customer is still getting money out of the locker. otherwise she will be waylaid by other customers on the way to the showers. i succeeded with this strategy on last saturday and sunday afternoon. but i was almost foiled on sunday as her previous customer kept his money in the men's changing room downstairs and she therefore waited at the top of the stairs instead. luckily she peeped into the bar area for a few seconds and i spotted her face.[/quote]yep, that sums it up well. my ideal time would be before 12 midday, e. g. 11:30, when can often catch her having a relax smoke.

[QUOTE=Howie; 1478630]Others that were of interest to me were slim blonde Vanessa and another slim, short haired brunette, no tattoos and whose name I did not catch. Has same body type as Vanessa but more flat chested. Be interested to learn more about her if anyone knows.

Howie[/QUOTE]There are plenty of past reports on Vanessa, not so glowing. You may have been better off to miss out. I was certainly considering her, but never pulled the trigger.

On the other hand, Carla / Erica always gets glowing reports.

Don't know anything about "Carmen".

[QUOTE=Howie; 1478630]This being my third visit to Oase this year, I left being still none the wiser on who Lavinia is. It's like a quest for the holy bloody grail. LOL.

Looking back maybe I should have asked Alexia.[/QUOTE]Your best bet is to look for guys who look like regulars (ie, an older German guy) or who just seem to know a lot of girls.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1478521]Hi all,

Just wondering can an Oase girl say no to a customer based on Mauro old / new rules?

If I plan to have a lesbian show between 2 different girls can we select 2 different girls that don't know each other and can they reject the mongers offer?

- I am thinking of pairing Alicia poland / Alexia with one of the Tina turner sister.

Is I am not mistakes for lesbian show it is 100 euro for each girl for 30 minutes am I right? Can I have oral sex from both of them or is the price only for the ladies to bonk / lick each other only without sex with me?[/QUOTE]The girls can say no to whoever they want. They don't have to agree to go with another girl in the room either, nor do they have to do stuff with another girl if they don't want to. In the same way, I'm glad that we guys have the freedom to say no to the girls we don't want to go with either.

Best thing is to find a girl you like and then work with her to find a suitable partner that you both like and be up front about what you're looking for. Although not apparent at first glance, there are quite a few girl "factions" at Oase. There are plenty of girls who don't like some of the other girls for whatever reason. Although this isn't usually so obvious at first glance.

Regarding prices, I would expect normal 100 Euro total for both for a half hour, plus any extras. That's what I pay when I go with two girls except that I don't have the girls do things with each other, just with me. It wouldn't surprise me if some girls asked for extra for doing stuff with the other girl though. I personally wouldn't pay extra for that though. Just me.

One of my favorite two girl experiences was when I went with two girls, one very experienced and one fairly inexperienced. The new girl was very shy about doing anything in the kino and kept refusing to do stuff with me in the kino, insisting on going to the room. So, I made it my mission to get her in the kino for some recreational activities. The turning point was when I got the new girl to go with me to the kino with a more experienced girl. The experienced girl was quite helpful in coaching / corrupting the newer, inexperienced girl on doing public stuff for me in kino. It's always a nice feeling corrupting a new girl.

Just watch out for the girls who start asking to lick the other girls pussy, that adds 100 to the half hour.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1478876]Just watch out for the girls who start asking to lick the other girls pussy, that adds 100 to the half hour.[/QUOTE]I save that for Thailand, where is no extra charge for inter-pussy licking. Took 2 girls for the whole night recently. I like DFK with the extra tongue too.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1478936]I save that for Thailand, where is no extra charge for inter-pussy licking. Took 2 girls for the whole night recently. I like DFK with the extra tongue too.[/QUOTE]Syzgies in Thailand how much does it cost to have girls that are into threesome with lesbian action?

And can you really get hot girls that could rival Romanians girls?

Some German guy I met says Angeles city is way cheaper and better than fkk?

Cambodia is also another hidden gem.

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy;1478856]One of my favorite two girl experiences was when I went with two girls, one very experienced and one fairly inexperienced. The new girl was very shy about doing anything in the kino and kept refusing to do stuff with me in the kino, insisting on going to the room. So, I made it my mission to get her in the kino for some recreational activities. The turning point was when I got the new girl to go with me to the kino with a more experienced girl. The experienced girl was quite helpful in coaching / corrupting the newer, inexperienced girl on doing public stuff for me in kino. It's always a nice feeling corrupting a new girl.[/QUOTE]And their names? Would like to try this experienced and inexperieced girl. Perhaps we other monger can try them out.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1478823]Your best bet is to look for guys who look like regulars (ie, an older German guy) or who just seem to know a lot of girls.[/QUOTE]Really should not be difficult to recognise. Voluptuous natural Cs blonde (often with a few spiral curls) , no tats, quite busy, with distinctive single black mole just below left collar-bone. Often has an "amused" but sweet smirk on her face. Often with "diamond" crusted hoop ear-rings. Used to have little diamond balls hanging from navel, but somebody broke them.

On the other topic of girls not liking each other, of course some will be jealous of the busy girls, or competing for favouritism by certain customers. Lavinia is a girl who focusses on her own business and not that of the other girls. She complained to me about some girls gossiping heaps about problems in their personal life, e. G. Boyfriends, and why should Lavinia be interested, as she doesn't even know the girl well and certainly not the BFs. She also mentioned that one red-headed girl was annoyingly giving her advice about not talking to customers too long for free, etc. As if Lavinia would need any advice LOL. Naturally if Lavinia likes the customer, and she is relaxing, she doesn't mind a bit of a friendly chat. Discussed political corruption problems in Romania with me, including problems being ignored like of stray dogs being a danger to children. Showed me her holiday pics on the phone too, mountains and the black sea, including family and her beloved dog. Lavinia probably is not keen on other girls who can't mind their own business. She is there to concentrate on working well, to save for her future projects and goals.

These days I have to remember to take my glasses around with me. Its amazing how many girls want to show me pics on their phone, which I don't see that well without the glasses (long sighted). Perhaps my really short range glasses for best close-up pussy views. LOL

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1478727]Hi Howie,

Would you say Alexia has a tight rectum for anal sex? Which is tighter Alexia or Carla?

Reason I ask is because I want to know how you define tight as when I pay for anal I like the feeling of tightness but with some girls having sex in their ass is just like having sex with their pussy LOL[/QUOTE]I think for many girls, the pussy feels better. The tightness and feeling is better spread over the length of your shaft rather than concentrated on the single A hole spot. Also anally, many girls start off very tight but after a short while are no tighter than the pussy. Then there are some girls that have pussy muscles that squeeze / massage your dick too.

As I take long sessions, I don't want to waste my money on the back door. If the girl has sloppy or cavernous pussy, like tall Jasmine or black Eva comes to mind, then I can understand that anal might be better. With a really great feeling pussy, it can be a lot better than an a-hole, IMHO. Each to their own. I didn't take any a-hole in FKK for years. I take it for free elsewhere occasionally (still not my preference). Just don't think 100 is good value. 50 for CIM is better value to me, so I take that occasionally when a bit "fucked out".50 extra for kiss at the Palace is again not worthwhile. 50 for COB is again a rip-off. I don't take that.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1478521]Hi all,

Just wondering can an Oase girl say no to a customer based on Mauro old / new rules?

If I plan to have a lesbian show between 2 different girls can we select 2 different girls that don't know each other and can they reject the mongers offer?[/QUOTE]These are mighty strange questions. Girls rejecting customers is completely normal at FKK and happens every day. An Italian buddy of mine, M gets rejected nearly 50% of the time due to his giant dick. LOL.

If you want a lesbian show, clearly you have to find out who is good at it first, and let them select the compatible 2nd girl or suggest alternatives. You are going to just waste money with 2 randomly selected girls who don't want to work together. 90% of girls don't want to lick pussy anyway. I get a lessie show in Bangkok where I already know which girls can provide it properly. I doubt if FKK is the ideal place to get this for a good price.

This short report has been pending since a while because I rarely can follow and write the forum.

After a long interval, I visit Oase on the beginning of September, during the IAA Messe time. I know the timing is not decent, but we were in a group of guys and most voted for Oase.

A lot of changes during my absence, at first, totaly new faces, new girls but still a strong line-up.

Now, the entry is 70 Euro and you have the right to consume one meal only (ordered from a menu, which I didn't time to sample)

The percentage of girls from Hungary maybe slightly increased, compared to last year?

New inside decoration, new VIP things, which doesn't make much sense for me.

Alas, rooms doesn't change (or maybe the one I used remain intact).

I had restricted time in the club, we were there well after midnight, so I didn't had much time to choose a girl, from a whole bunch of girls which all seems new to me (the only face I reckognise was the tall blond well built German (short white or blond hair) , maybe her name could be Geralda.

So, at the end I was biten by a Romanian.

Antonia

I don't want to generalise but she had the whole stereotype of Romanian girls; she promise too much things in the lounge but she provide a few of them in the room. She told she kisses good, but at the end, I find out she doesn't do a real DFK, she even didn't bother to remove lipstick, just a standart mechanical session, in all aspects. I should be warned when she told me she was working in Palace, previously. I can't blame her, the fault was mine to choose her. Now, why all the FKK girl try to get out from the room after 15-20 min? We have also timekeeping abilities? If they don't like our 50 bucks, they can return to their daily life and learn there are harder ways and longer hours to earn that 50 bucks. Don't they understand that customers will decide to go other places who provide more value for money. But the problem is, Oase and also Palace, is attracting lots of "one time visitors", there are endless amount of those type of customers.

I won't recommend Antonia.

[QUOTE=Creature2; 1479282]So, at the end I was biten by a Romanian.

Antonia

I don't want to generalise but she had the whole stereotype of Romanian girls; she promise too much things in the lounge but she provide a few of them in the room. She told she kisses good, but at the end, I find out she doesn't do a real DFK, she even didn't bother to remove lipstick, just a standart mechanical session, in all aspects. I should be warned when she told me she was working in Palace, previously.[/QUOTE]I have been "bitten" by German girls, Chinese girls, Turkish girls, Romanian, Bulgarian, Dominican, etc. So I don't quite understand "Romanian stereotype". Maybe it should read "FKK fast session girl stereotype". Maybe 70%+ of the girls are Romanian. 80% of my favourite girls are Romanian. No surprise. If all Romanian girls were bad, the clubs would probably disintegrate.

Romanian hookers are way better than the girls in my home country, in both looks and attitude. That is enough for me.

Maybe there are a few countries that provide very few poor girls, maybe not. I don't recall many bad Hungarian, Polish, or South American girls, but maybe that was because there were so few Hungarians and Poles or just luck.

Some great Romanians at Oase: Alexa, Amalia, Bianca, Carla / Erica, Crina, Deborah, Dora, Elena, Elizabeth, Jennifer, Julia, Lavinia, Magda (Daria) , etc. And many more I haven't even tried yet. Its tough for the casual visitor to find all the good girls as there is no approval stamp on them. Some of girls I tried that say they come from X may actually be from Romania too. However most of the really good Romanians are happy to say they come from Romania too.

I watch girls and avoid girls that always seem to do 15 min sessions. The odd 15 min session proves nothing but if its always like that with a girl, that is a bad sign. Girls that do a lot of long sessions are usually very good.

Its quite possible that a lot of new girls that arrived in just the last 2 to 3 months are below the top standard of girls at Oase, specially if they were rejects at other clubs. New girls from early in the year mostly seemed to be quite good, at least the ones I tried out.

[QUOTE=Creature2; 1479282]I don't want to generalise but she had the whole stereotype of Romanian girls; she promise too much things in the lounge but she provide a few of them in the room. She told she kisses good, but at the end, I find out she doesn't do a real DFK, she even didn't bother to remove lipstick, just a standart mechanical session, in all aspects. I should be warned when she told me she was working in Palace, previously. I can't blame her, the fault was mine to choose her. Now, why all the FKK girl try to get out from the room after 15-20 min? We have also timekeeping abilities? If they don't like our 50 bucks, they can return to their daily life and learn there are harder ways and longer hours to earn that 50 bucks. Don't they understand that customers will decide to go other places who provide more value for money. But the problem is, Oase and also Palace, is attracting lots of "one time visitors", there are endless amount of those type of customers.

I won't recommend Antonia.[/QUOTE]Creature same experience but as I said the service level has dropped at Oase (only applies to the new girls as prior to this I have had great service at Oase).

Many are just interested to process their client as fast as they can due to the situation you mention. Most girls thinks that guys that come are 1st time customer so lets just screm them ASAP get the hell out (since they don't intend to get repeated from the guys).

To be fair, though it is easy money the girls they need to pay quite a high interest to their pimps and meet their daily or weekly quota.

Syzgies thank you for you reply. It is an odd question but a girl told me they can't refuse to a customer by saying I don't want to go with you. Somehing about club rules saying they can't reject a customer based on the skin colourpreference.

Totaly agree with that we don't have generalise it there were too many point affected the success of a session:

A) Messe time is not a good choice for clubbing. Be) we get in the club late nite and this didn't help the necessary time to relax and choose a girl for a session.

See) While waiting some favorite girls to return, I suddenly realise that time is passing and will have even no 30 min for a session.

So all went wrong, since the beginning till the end. We initially intended to go to Sharks but ended up doing Oase etc. Not only me, but some business colleagues were not also lucky with some Roumanians. Although some other were happy with Romanian girls and Hungarian girls. So we can't generalise.

Yesterday, I was in FKK Dietzenbach, went with a Romy and a Bulgarish, not so bad but shortish session. Today, I went once more and had three different Romanian girl and always stayed more than 30 mknutes in the room. 10 min couch time even doesn't count. So, I return to the same conclusion, we shouldn't generalise but Roumanian girls has a bad reputation, this is another fact.

Hello,

First timer here, so please forgive simple questions.

I read through multiple TRs and other comments. I get it that Palace has more sharks and service levels may not be ideal.

However, I am not too demanding. No interest in deep kissing, or BBBJ. I am a bit of hypochondriac, so CBJ is just fine. No interest in extras. If the girl is pretty, I am good with one hour sessions.

But I prefer medium height, slim, blondes. Pretty face is most important. Is Oase or Palace the right place, or is Mainhatten?

Also, can I get a taxi easily to get back to bad homburg from Oase at say mid night, or even 10PM?

Is it true that the bed sheets are cleaner at Palace and not so at Oase? That does not sound too appealing.

How is the traffic on Friday and Saturday in late November? Which club has more girls, especially the slim, pretty blondes I prefer?

Many thanks.

Also, forgot to ask. I love watching other people doing the deed.

Which of the clubs in Frankfurt affords the best opportunity where one can watch action in the open area? I realize it is possible at many of these clubs, but is one of them likely to have more men and gals going at it in the open areas?

Thanks again.

Hi all,

I am about 2 weeks from my visit to Oase and I have a several questions for those who have been there:

- All day pass? I arrive into FRA at about 6am on Saturday and will get to my hotel by around 8am. So, I will have the whole day in the area. Is the pass good for the day and you can leave and return as I please?

- When should I go? Should I hit up the place in the early morning or afternoon to start with? I have read that later in the day, post 6pm the line up gets better. In fact from what I have read here in this forum, much better later, like around midnight? Is that still the case for those of you who have visited recently?

Thanks!

Mike

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1479420]Creature same experience but as I said the service level has dropped at Oase (only applies to the new girls as prior to this I have had great service at Oase).[/QUOTE]This is the main problem now in Oase. Of course there are still many good girls around, but where it used to be 90, and 80% of the newbees, now it is only 20% of the newbees who qualify as good service providers. Regular customers notice this already, and went elsewhere (like me).

Pity, let's hope the strict service policy from 2 years ago will be introduced again soon!

(and yes, then girls who don't want to comply, can look for another club, eg Palace, to rip the tourists off!)

[QUOTE=Maxime; 1479762]This is the main problem now in Oase. Of course there are still many good girls around, but where it used to be 90, and 80% of the newbees, now it is only 20% of the newbees who qualify as good service providers. Regular customers notice this already, and went elsewhere (like me).

Pity, let's hope the strict service policy from 2 years ago will be introduced again soon!

(and yes, then girls who don't want to comply, can look for another club, eg Palace, to rip the tourists off!) [/QUOTE]I have tried going elsewhere like Sharks, as an experiment. My overall satisfaction rate with trying "new" girls (new to me) is no better than at Oase. It a large extent it has been related to luck. Even advise from experienced FKK goers has not always worked out. Even watching girls for a long period of time did not totally work out for me. See my Sharks report soon.

I am somewhat shielded from the newest girls at Oase as did not find a massive compulsion to try too many of the girls that just started in the last 2. 3 months, as there were plenty of interesting girls from earlier times at my great regular girls. I was also lucky to not pick certain other suspect new girls for 2013 like Angelina (did not appeal at all and a bit pushy) , Vanessa (never got to top of the list) , Ingrid, etc.

It has to be largely luck that I tried great new girls Amalia, Elizabeth, Maria (Deu possibly new) , Sylvia, Aida, black Eva, Angela, etc. This year. Some of these girls already seem to be gone from Oase.

Being an Optifik specialist, I rate line-ups largely by the looks of the girls, with pretty faces being most important, and great bodies 2nd. I think good performers can always be found amongst the Optifik set at Oase and at most clubs.

In the end, right now for me, Oase still has the most girls that I am keen to fuck on each visit, most of those being girls I would like to repeat with. For guys that have a need to always be choosing mostly new girls never tried before, I can understand that Oase may be a risky proposition.

When I have a large set of known good girls, I rarely try more than one new girl per visit. So my overall advice to Oase goers, is to concentrate somewhat on known good girls, and reduce the risk of bad luck.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1479396]I have been "bitten" by German girls, Chinese girls, Turkish girls, Romanian, Bulgarian, Dominican, etc. So I don't quite understand "Romanian stereotype". Maybe it should read "FKK fast session girl stereotype". Maybe 70%+ of the girls are Romanian. 80% of my favourite girls are Romanian. No surprise. If all Romanian girls were bad, the clubs would probably disintegrate.

Romanian hookers are way better than the girls in my home country, in both looks and attitude. That is enough for me.

Maybe there are a few countries that provide very few poor girls, maybe not. I don't recall many bad Hungarian, Polish, or South American girls, but maybe that was because there were so few Hungarians and Poles or just luck.

Some great Romanians at Oase: Alexa, Amalia, Bianca, Carla / Erica, Crina, Deborah, Dora, Elena, Elizabeth, Jennifer, Julia, Lavinia, Magda (Daria) , etc. And many more I haven't even tried yet. Its tough for the casual visitor to find all the good girls as there is no approval stamp on them. Some of girls I tried that say they come from X may actually be from Romania too. However most of the really good Romanians are happy to say they come from Romania too.

I watch girls and avoid girls that always seem to do 15 min sessions. The odd 15 min session proves nothing but if its always like that with a girl, that is a bad sign. Girls that do a lot of long sessions are usually very good.

Its quite possible that a lot of new girls that arrived in just the last 2 to 3 months are below the top standard of girls at Oase, specially if they were rejects at other clubs. New girls from early in the year mostly seemed to be quite good, at least the ones I tried out.[/QUOTE]I don't feel that I stereotype Romanians. Although Black girls are not my thing, and I strive for certain looks, more of Germanic / Nordic with blond / brunett with grey / blue / green eyes, and tall playboy model curvature. Majority of the Romanians I see at the club don't have the looks I'm looking for, but only a few. Going only by service, doesn't do it for me, and I get bored of girls too quickly, I don't like to repeat. I want someone fresh every time, and it's the same old Romanians at Oase. Also, you got to consider that the FRA clubs such as World, Oase, Sharks, and Mainhatten are packed full of them, and these are rush clubs unlike more relaxed NRW clubs where there are more variety (but not so much anymore), Romanians could get a bad rep.

I agree. 15min proves nothing. It could be the girl is that good or the customers she was with was ready to release quickly and were done. I don't really pay attention to customer's reactions when coming out of the room, I can't be sitting there all day looking at their reactions, it takes many customer's reactions to imply anything, and in the end it's just implications. Reason why I say this, I pick random girls not based on reports, and based on my preferences and I get lucky and other times not. I know being safe is good(going with the same girl guarantees good session), with the same old girls, but I get bored of that.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1479823]I don't feel that I stereotype Romanians. Although Black girls are not my thing, and I strive for certain looks, more of Germanic / Nordic with blond / brunett with grey / blue / green eyes, and tall playboy model curvature. Majority of the Romanians I see at the club don't have the looks I'm looking for, but only a few. Going only by service, doesn't do it for me, and I get bored of girls too quickly, I don't like to repeat. I want someone fresh every time, and it's the same old Romanians at Oase. Also, you got to consider that the FRA clubs such as World, Oase, Sharks, and Mainhatten are packed full of them, and these are rush clubs unlike more relaxed NRW clubs where there are more variety (but no so much anymore), Romanians could get a bad rep.[/QUOTE]Interesting view point. I can well appreciate that the NRW area might be a better hunting ground for you, but probably not for me.

So it seems that "Romanian Stereotyping" (by some) maybe more of a looks oriented preference rather than be service oriented, with many guys not going for the darker style of Romanians at all, and even wary of the blonde lighter skinned ones. However I find that in this region, German girls generally are the more risky for best GFE service, even if some look good.

I too am very looks oriented. Eye colour doesn't matter to me. Try Elizabeth though. I think has nice eye colour as does Judith but not Germanic looking. Maybe some girls should be considering the green coloured contact lenses LOL. Nordic girls I agree with. Girls in Sweden certainly look far superior to German girls, but they don't work FKK. Years ago there was a super stunning Lithuanian (I think) girl Marina at the Palace, and I have met the odd stunning German girl. The Romanian girls I like, tend to be the ones who are not so Gypsy looking, but occasionally I like a darker one.

Wanting a fresh new girl every time, is certainly a problematic thing at some clubs, if expecting great service. World may be the most reliable club in the area where a high percentage of girls turn out good, but well down for really pretty Germanic looks. The only pretty German girl I tried, was a quite bad session. Other very poor girls were a gypsy looking Ionella (now called Lorena at Sharks), and Samira. Almost all remaining session were O.K. to great. Didn't really click with Simona, and Larissa (cute ass) was very dick scared. So those two not considered for repeats. Majority of girls at World have been fairly good sessions.

If you are not into Romanians or Latins in a big way, clearly Oase is the wrong place to be, I think. I tried Nina (Deu) and she was okay but not exactly GFE. Maria (Deu) was good GFE but looks like she has departed. Marie (Deu) was not GFE and departed. Ricky was not GFE, not into fucking (dick scared) , and a toothy BBBJ and long departed too. So Maria (dark hair) was the only one I wanted to keep repeating (but reportedly gone).

Speaking of gypsies, have you noticed that they play gypsy music on Saturdays at Oase?

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1479838]Speaking of gypsies, have you noticed that they play gypsy music on Saturdays at Oase?[/QUOTE]At Oase and World, there is a certain amount of Gypsy music and Saturday is my most usual day, with the very heavy drumming, and even some of the Romanian girls describe it as bullshit music. Skinny blonde Karina at World comes to mind as a girl who hates the Gypsy music. There is also some Romanian pop music too like from Alexandra Stan "Mr. Saxo Beat" or old Ozone hit "Dragosta Din Tei (Numa numa iei)", etc.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1479835]If you are not into Romanians or Latins in a big way, clearly Oase is the wrong place to be, I think. I tried Nina (Deu) and she was okay but not exactly GFE. Maria (Deu) was good GFE but looks like she has departed. Marie (Deu) was not GFE and departed. Ricky was not GFE, not into fucking (dick scared) , and a toothy BBBJ and long departed too. So Maria (dark hair) was the only one I wanted to keep repeating (but reportedly gone).[/QUOTE]I know Ricky and been with her many times and she is not matchting your description of being dick scared and toothy BBBJ at least not with me?

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1479848]I know Ricky and been with her many times and she is not matching your description of being dick scared and toothy BBBJ at least not with me?[/QUOTE]Maybe you like very strong BBBJ. I like very soft and slurpy. Ricky had far too much power for my liking. Maybe I just caught her at the wrong time when she seemed reluctant to fuck much. I am no pounder but maybe a bit longer than average. Definitely she liked doing BJ more than any extended time fuck. I am not known for being quick. Did not seem keen to like doggy at all. But simply the BJ was not to my spec. Anyway definitely no doubt "Riccarda". Not a GFE type girl.

I did not have any reason to make her my regular girl.

a week ago this past wednesday i entered the recently renovated oase. despite it being a sunny and relatively warm day, the ladies were confining themselves to the indoors. so it was no problem grabbing a lounger out by the outdoor jacuzzi / pool and bar. most of the ladies only ventured as far as the door from the indoor jacuzzi / restaurant area to the outdoor saunas.

the male numbers were low on arrival, at roughly 20-25, swelling to almost equal the ladies by 7pm. as is usual, i need more than 3 days to get over the jet lag / fatigue, but i was emerging from the fog.

my first this day was aris of romania. aris is about 5'8", bleached blonde hair pulled back into a bun. her face is oval, with high cheek bones and almond shaped eyes, giving her a high fashion model look. her breasts were augmented by a master surgeon: there is no trace of the incision, and they are soft & supple. her nipples are large and erect. not a spinner, she is a woman. her legs seem to go on forever and this night were encased in fishnet stockings.

aris rarely hunts. she has no need to. her prey will come to her. she can be found by the no-smoking tables at the top of the jacuzzi area, or on the round platform in the main lounge, outside the kino, (smoking area).

she is very good. aris was sitting on a sofa in the lounge. i had first noticed her back in the jacuzzi area. her beauty is undeniable. i was hooked as soon as i first saw her. in the lounge we exchanged glances and i nodded to her. she came over and as is the custom she laid across my lap. we held the usual conversation: how are you, what is your name, where are you from? we continued briefly in general conversation. the word zimmer did not come up. it didn't have to, it was assured. she was so close that it was very easy to kiss her. it became dfk, with stroking of appropriate body parts by both parties. in no time flat i signalled her, and anyone else who was watching, that i was ready for the zimmer! she smiled coyly, and we were off.

in the zimmer the dfk continued at a fever pitch. i had suggested initially a 30 minute session, which she unhesitatingly agreed to. in the zimmer i said, lets see how it goes, for more. the kissing continued, as did the stroking. she began to kiss me all over, my face, chest, arms and so on. when possible she stroked me with her breasts. and she fed them to me, for as much as i wanted! i indicated we would be there for an hour!

the bj, was delightful! lots of bls and perineum stroking. as befits such a beauty, her manicure and pedicure were flawless and beautiful. it was readily apparent that aris's job was to be beautiful, and she was very good at it.

as expected there were various positions available and used. i enjoyed missionary and folded deck chair as i gazed into her eyes while she smiled wickedly. when i reached in for a kiss, she would quickly flick lick my lips before returning to a solid lip lock.

daty was delightful and digits were encouraged. she shuddered violently during one episode of daty with digits. and she had me shuddering a lot: from her mouth on all parts, and with her body, that grasped me and would not let go.

but, in the end i am a mere mortal and had to give this goddess her due. and gave i did! she cleaned me up with towels and then we were off, hand-in-hand to the pay locker. 100€ richly deserved! with a fresh robe and towels, i was off for a hot shower and some earned rest.

there were more activities, lounge time outside in the hot sun, relaxing in the main smoking lounge ogling the parade of naked ladies, dinner in the restaurant, but these are of little interest. as the evening progressed the night shift ladies finished entering and the numbers of men began to swell. wait times for zimmers began to increase. i had seen aris early enough that we were able to select a favourite air conditioned zimmer: the pharaoh room. i have had many good sessions in that room over the years. but now there was a lull in the zimmer wait times as many men headed off to the restaurant for dinner.

while the food selection may be limited, the lady selection is not! there were blondes (mostly bottled) of all shades, and lots of black hair. some hair is short, but most is long. there are spinners, women and plus-sized (only a couple). ladies are tall in the heels, but there were some real tall ones. a couple had glasses. some tattoos, piercings of various locations. you want a particular type? she's probably waiting for you there.

my second choice for this day was cindy, a tall jamaican with shoulder length frizzy hair. we met where she often sits: the end of the bar as you enter the smoking lounge. cindy is another lady who does not have to hunt. she is a spinner with conical breasts which are topped with extended nipples.

i was resting on the sofas by the bar when i noted cindy perched oh her stool. wearing only black stockings, she was an impressive sight. again, i nodded her over and she began beaming as she approached. she assumed the position on my lap and we had our standard conversation. it once again was quickly apparent what i had on my mind. after several minutes of dfk with this naked lady on the sofa, (and can she kiss!) we were off to the zimmer, this time one of the newly air-conditioned zimmers by the jacuzzi.

in the zimmer the pace of dfk continued. cindy was as intense as aris, kissing my body all over. though her breasts were not as large as aris's, cindy's certainly were soft and offered up continually. like all the other girls, cindy was shaved. this was another safe full-course session, including delightful daty and digits. multiple positions were employed and it was clear that she knew her stuff. but i did not achieve the same connection i had with aris. maybe it was the lack of 'dirty talk' in those sexy east european accents. what-ever, in the end i had my second release of this day and was feeling happy, but dazed. wednesday had been a good day.

arriving back at oase friday night it wasn't too long until i fell under the spell of aris again. but this time i did not go with her. there were so many choices, and i wanted to experience the variety. also, i knew we'd be back the next day and aris would be here until sunday.

also present was the slightly pudgy brunette lucia, from italy, (right next to bucharest). as was usual with my past encounters with this girl, she is quite sweet and enticing, until you tell her you're not interested. then she becomes quite negative.

so my first of the evening was with alexa of romania. alexa is cute, with a slight over bite. she wears her shoulder length black hair loosely pulled back with some allowed to fall loose on the left side of her face. i did not conduct a full interview before we went for the zimmer. although it was relatively early in the evening, there was already a wait for available zimmers. anxious to get underway, i suggested using one of the outside tents. alexa was agreeable, so we made our way all the way from the main lounge to the tents near the outside pool. it was cool this evening, so all the tents were available. the only obstacle: the soft grass strip the girls have to cross in those silly high heels. just a good excuse to hold onto them.

our first kissing was in the tent and it was brief, shallow french kissing. she quickly moved on to the bj. the air was cool, but we were heating it up, so i didn't notice the cold. the bj was good, but it did include a little toothy massage. not too long and we moved onto the main event: missionary, folded deck chair and one or two others. in the end, it was a quick session with little chemistry / connection. ok but certainly far from the class of aris!

for the rest of the evening i was checking out several prospects as they serviced clients in the kino. the action rate in the kino had dropped after the wall separating the kino from the main lounge was removed. but the wait for rooms grew quite long on occasion, causing some couples to use the kino. many abandon the outdoor tents because of the cold.

in any event, i was not overly impressed with what i was seeing. i was considering leaving. but before i could locate my wingman to confirm the decision, i suddenly saw a vision before me. i wasn't sure at first, but she had the look: slightly wild black hair, attractive face and wearing glasses. i was pretty sure i had seen, but not sessioned with her, a couple of years ago. there was a sure fire way to confirm who she was: she had a betty boop voice! as i approached her, janey was speaking with another lady. sure enough, there was that tell tale high pitched voice!

i wasted no time making contact. janey / jaynee from bulgaria is a very pretty girl. and a very smart one. she has this sexy secretary look going on with her glasses, but when she removes them as the action heats up, she is quite stunning, imho. i had met her three years ago but had not sessioned. i would not make the same mistake again.

i approached janey and addressed her by name. although i knew she did not know my name, i toyed with her a bit, before i advised her that she did not know me, but that we had met previously and i remembered her. in the end she was delightful! we headed to one of the tents and again i got to help the lady cross the turf. inside, we quickly began to heat things up with lots of dfk, body kissing, stroking and more. janey had a light, sensuous touch. we moved on to a delightful bj, moving back to the high standard previously set by aris. daty was an enjoyable experience. the usual multiple positions followed until i set off a weak salute. the pace of the week was taking its toll on me. but i would not dishonour the lady: she was beautiful, sensual and successful.

with meeting, and enjoying, janey, that left only hungarian judit on my to do list for oase. unfortunately i never ran across her on this trip. so i concluded my friday with janey. my wingman and i would return here one more time.

and that time was the next night:saturday night! this would be my last kick at the cat in oase. i would see aris one last time, but first i wanted to see a lady i had tried to meet on our previous visits, but i had not been able to connect with her. she would move on or be approached by another client. but finally i got to approach her near her regular position just outside the restaurant.

i was after daria of romania. she had long curly brunette hair, (likely extensions) , and a youthful look to highlight her puffy-like breasts. again i errored by only conducting a brief interview. for example, she agreed to kissing, but i did not specify dfk, so had to settle for lfk! things went from bad to worse when daty was removed from the menu. but the final straw was the fact that her cell phone rang, not once, but three times! she did not answer, but we both seemed to pick up the pace as she said it was her mother. i was not impressed. i also quickly was loosing interest in daria, and becoming disappointed in myself. i had no one to blame for this disaster than myself. i had let my appetites reign over a better selection process. but this downer complex was to be short lived. i still had aris to see!

but it was getting late in the tour, meaning that it was getting harder to get up for every encounter, if you get my drift. and getting up was no guarantee of a fabulous flourish to finnish.

and such was the case with aris. she pretended to be miffed that i had not sessioned with her the day before. but in reality she was just taking a different tact with me. amazingly, in next to no time she had me rising under the assault of her kisses. all over. we were on a sofa in the lounge, so i had a leg draped over my lap, an arm around my shoulders and a lot of stroking going on. what can i say? one thing led to another. again. off to ze zimmer.

once in the room we resumed where we had left off on wednesday. the only difference was, i didn't seem to be able to finish. aris was giving it her all. this is one nasty lady. and i mean that in the best way! she was stroking me, talking, rubbing me, and herself. she suggested things and in the end, she was rewarded with a proper salute! in the end, we spent a delightful hour in the zimmer. aris was rapidly becoming my favourite.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1479922]Maybe you like very strong BBBJ. I like very soft and slurpy. Ricky had far too much power for my liking. Maybe I just caught her at the wrong time when she seemed reluctant to fuck much. I am no pounder but maybe a bit longer than average. Definitely she liked doing BJ more than any extended time fuck. I am not known for being quick. Did not seem keen to like doggy at all. But simply the BJ was not to my spec. Anyway definitely no doubt "Riccarda". Not a GFE type girl.

I did not have any reason to make her my regular girl.[/QUOTE]We clearly have different experiences. She always gave me soft and slurpy BJ with no hands. We fucked several times in the Kino, in Zimmer for 1 hour and I've never seen any reluctant or complains. She was more GFE to me than Nina. Oh well YMMV, unfortunately she not at Oase anymore but she was a star to me. She probably was a bit snob and many men were a bit "afraid" or intimidate of this tall blond girl.

[QUOTE=Myrmidon; 1479945]My second choice for this day was Cindy, a tall Jamaican with shoulder length frizzy hair. We met where she often sits: the end of the bar as you enter the smoking lounge. Cindy is another Lady who does not have to hunt. She is a spinner with conical breasts which are topped with extended nipples.

I was resting on the sofas by the bar when I noted Cindy perched oh her stool. Wearing only black stockings, she was an impressive sight. Again, I nodded her over and she began beaming as she approached. She assumed the position on my lap and we had our standard conversation. It once again was quickly apparent what I had on my mind. After several minutes of DFK with this naked Lady on the sofa, (and can she kiss!) we were off to the zimmer, this time one of the newly air-conditioned zimmers by the jacuzzi.

In the zimmer the pace of DFK continued. Cindy was as intense as Aris, kissing my body all over. Though her breasts were not as large as Aris's, Cindy's certainly were soft and offered up continually. Like all the other girls, Cindy was shaved. This was another safe full-course session, including delightful DATY and digits. Multiple positions were employed and it was clear that she knew her stuff. But I did not achieve the same connection I had with Aris. Maybe it was the lack of 'dirty talk' in those sexy east European accents. What-ever, in the end I had my second release of this day and was feeling happy, but dazed. Wednesday had been a good day.

Arriving back at Oase Friday night it wasn't too long until I fell under the spell of Aris again. But this time I did not go with her. There were so many choices, and I wanted to experience the variety. Also, I knew we'd be back the next day and Aris would be here until Sunday.[/QUOTE]Wow, Aris certainly sounds great even if doesn't match my typical Spec.

Can there be two black Cindys in Oase? Or perhaps you are an Optimist and I am a Pessimist? LOL. I asked the quite slim medium dark skinned frizzy-haired Cindy where she was from and she said Deutschland (LOL) although other reports suggest Ghana. Still she did not look that dark as what I would expect for Ghana? I can't claim to know. Jamaica seems possible. However where you say "tall", I would have said short to medium with high stilts. I described the tits as saggy A cups (quite small) , where you say "conical breasts which are topped with extended nipples". Were they really that good? Sounds like a different girl. Her pussy lips are large protruding, right? And her hips / thighs are not that broad? Maybe I have got the wrong one and there really are two of them?

Anyhow, she performed great, which rarely surprises with black / latin girls.

I always wondered who was the new Daria, that caused the former blonde skinny Daria to change her name to Magda, which is closer to her real name. I never met the new one yet.

During my time there, I only noted one black Lady. I had a particularly hard time, for some unknown reason, to remember her name. So I could be off on the description. Don't forget, I am a 'tourist' only visiting 1x / year, so I am dazzled by the beauties and easily confused. The lips were indeed protruding. Height? Those shoes always confuse me.

One thing I am not confused about: Aris is not happy at Oase. She said men have told her that they are intimidated by her (good looks) and go with girls who provide poorer service. She is not as busy as she would like. Hint: If you like a top notch performer, who cares that you are happy, who has the imagination / skill set to make you happy, then go see Aris. She had less eye makeup for our second tryst, but I still wish I'd spent three hours with her. She managed to up sell me to an hour without saying a word, simply by providing service that made me want to spend more time with her.

As for Daria, the puffy nipples / breasts and the usual station by the restaurant, or the round Dias in the main lounge, give her away. Not that I would want to find her again.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1479966]Wow, Aris certainly sounds great even if doesn't match my typical Spec.

Can there be two black Cindys in Oase? Or perhaps you are an Optimist and I am a Pessimist? LOL. I asked the quite slim medium dark skinned frizzy-haired Cindy where she was from and she said Deutschland (LOL) although other reports suggest Ghana. Still she did not look that dark as what I would expect for Ghana? I can't claim to know. Jamaica seems possible. However where you say "tall", I would have said short to medium with high stilts. I described the tits as saggy A cups (quite small) , where you say "conical breasts which are topped with extended nipples". Were they really that good? Sounds like a different girl. Her pussy lips are large protruding, right? And her hips / thighs are not that broad? Maybe I have got the wrong one and there really are two of them?

Anyhow, she performed great, which rarely surprises with black / latin girls.

I always wondered who was the new Daria, that caused the former blonde skinny Daria to change her name to Magda, which is closer to her real name. I never met the new one yet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Myrmidon; 1480015]During my time there, I only noted one black Lady. I had a particularly hard time, for some unknown reason, to remember her name. So I could be off on the description. Don't forget, I am a 'tourist' only visiting 1x / year, so I am dazzled by the beauties and easily confused. The lips were indeed protruding. Height? Those shoes always confuse me.

One thing I am not confused about: Aris is not happy at Oase. She said men have told her that they are intimidated by her (good looks) and go with girls who provide poorer service. She is not as busy as she would like. Hint: If you like a top notch performer, who cares that you are happy, who has the imagination / skill set to make you happy, then go see Aris. She had less eye makeup for our second tryst, but I still wish I'd spent three hours with her. She managed to up sell me to an hour without saying a word, simply by providing service that made me want to spend more time with her.

As for Daria, the puffy nipples / breasts and the usual station by the restaurant, or the round Dias in the main lounge, give her away. Not that I would want to find her again.[/QUOTE]This is a common theme and validated with my conversation with Alexa. She said, men doesn't want to go with pretty girls instead only want to talk them but ended up always booking less optic girls because they can have their ways with them. I would say this is true for Italian and Turkish men but not sure of all men.

BTW, nice trip report, I wish I was there.

[QUOTE=Myrmidon; 1480015]During my time there, I only noted one black Lady. I had a particularly hard time, for some unknown reason, to remember her name. So I could be off on the description. Don't forget, I am a 'tourist' only visiting 1x / year, so I am dazzled by the beauties and easily confused. The lips were indeed protruding. Height? Those shoes always confuse me.

One thing I am not confused about: Aris is not happy at Oase. She said men have told her that they are intimidated by her (good looks) and go with girls who provide poorer service. She is not as busy as she would like. Hint: If you like a top notch performer, who cares that you are happy, who has the imagination / skill set to make you happy, then go see Aris. She had less eye makeup for our second tryst, but I still wish I'd spent three hours with her. She managed to up sell me to an hour without saying a word, simply by providing service that made me want to spend more time with her.

As for Daria, the puffy nipples / breasts and the usual station by the restaurant, or the round Dias in the main lounge, give her away. Not that I would want to find her again.[/QUOTE]Blardy hell now I am jealous LOL. Didn't meet this Aris. Hey Ultrahappy one for your list (if she is not already in there) LOL.

Myr on your last visit was there a lot of latina girls? When I went there only one girl was there. The really tanned skin who has the MILF look. Didn't fancy her looks but she is a nice girl.

[QUOTE=Myrmidon;1480015]One thing I am not confused about: Aris is not happy at Oase. She said men have told her that they are intimidated by her (good looks) and go with girls who provide poorer service. She is not as busy as she would like. Hint: If you like a top notch performer, who cares that you are happy, who has the imagination / skill set to make you happy, then go see Aris.[/QUOTE]Well how much can a girl expect from the quality of the customers? I don't understand why men would be intimidated by a girl's good looks. I always go for the best looking girls in the house to my taste (with a good personality and vibe too. Meaning not too bitchy or too arrogant). I went for Lavinia and Marie on same day, as the best two lookers I could find, having initially been wary of Marie in particular. Marie was okay performer if not GFE and Lavinia was really good. I told her the first day (maybe her 2nd week at Oase) I would be her regular customer for sure.

At Sharks, I had to take Roxanna, easily the best looker to my taste and she is confirmed as a great GFE performer. I don't really see a pattern of bad performance with great looks. The best 4 lookers at World all perform well for me. Then again I never get to find out how good the ugly ones can be. Maybe ugliness can make some girls more humble. We can forgive the beautiful girls for being more self confident, and they don't have to do weird nasty stuff to make good money.

Once a girl with a walrus body that worked at Oase, probably just the one day. Claimed to be German / American mixed parentage. Intelligent girl to chat to but not intelligent enough to loose a lot of weight. Of course I did not want to fuck her at all, even if she were to pay me. Not sure if she would be able to find a customer at all. Significantly worse looking than your average non-FKK girl.

Maybe Aris will be happier in time. If gets consistently good publicity, guys will start seeking her out, or will just see her, ask the name, and remember they heard how good she was.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1480042]Once a girl with a walrus body that worked at Oase, probably just the one day. Claimed to be German / American mixed parentage. Intelligent girl to chat to but not intelligent enough to loose a lot of weight. Of course I did not want to fuck her at all, even if she were to pay me. Not sure if she would be able to find a customer at all. Significantly worse looking than your average non-FKK girl.

Maybe Aris will be happier in time. If gets consistently good publicity, guys will start seeking her out, or will just see her, ask the name, and remember they heard how good she was.[/QUOTE]I choose the best looking girls as well also in IRL,

You are a bit hard on the fatter and less good looking girls, there are guys for every type of girls, some guy are shy and don't have courage to even speak to the good looking girls, then the smart guys would pick her first.

Some guys just want an avg. Girl or looking for a girls that remind him of the high school days, even a neighbors daughter.

So guys looking for top girls book these girls and guys looking for avg. Would pick those. No rocket science.

In general if the girl is sweet, smiling, charming, provide decent service, easygoing but has an avg. Look will have more customer than a great looking *****.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1480024]Myr on your last visit was there a lot of latina girls? When I went there only one girl was there. The really tanned skin who has the MILF look. Didn't fancy her looks but she is a nice girl.[/QUOTE]I don't recall meeting any Latinas.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1480024]Myr on your last visit was there a lot of latina girls? When I went there only one girl was there. The really tanned skin who has the MILF look. Didn't fancy her looks but she is a nice girl.[/QUOTE]CC,

For some reason the Latin girls are well down, just now. In my last two visits only saw Patrizia (Bra) , Ilona (Ven) a little like Zeta-Jones on steroids, and Cindy (from somewhere?). Saw Ilona doing public sex I think (for the exhibitionists).

Syz

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1480249]CC,

For some reason the Latin girls are well down, just now. In my last two visits only saw Patrizia (Bra) , Ilona (Ven) a little like Zeta-Jones on steroids, and Cindy (from somewhere?). Saw Ilona doing public sex I think (for the exhibitionists).

Syz[/QUOTE]Cindy is from Jamaica. She lives in the NRW area so is only occassionally in Oase. She gives really good sessions.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1480042]Maybe Aris will be happier in time. If gets consistently good publicity, guys will start seeking her out, or will just see her, ask the name, and remember they heard how good she was.[/QUOTE]To add to my pal Myrmidon's report, Aris will be away after Oct 16 and on her return she may be packing her gears and head over to Palace for a try. Both Myr and I discovered Aris last year when we bumped into each other at Mainhattan. Great PSE and GFE experience Aris provides.

[QUOTE=Wassab;1480639]Aris will be away after Oct 16 and on her return she may be packing her gears and head over to Palace for a try.[/QUOTE]I mentioned Aris very favourably here back in early June, and I'm amazed I haven't seen anyone mention her up until now.

When I saw her one night, I asked her how her day had been and she said I was only her second client.

I just don't get it. Gorgeous busty blonde who doesn't hassle and provides a great time, and no-one is interested?

[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks; 1481003]I mentioned Aris very favourably here back in early June, and I'm amazed I haven't seen anyone mention her up until now.

When I saw her one night, I asked her how her day had been and she said I was only her second client.

I just don't get it. Gorgeous busty blonde who doesn't hassle and provides a great time, and no-one is interested?[/QUOTE]The only explanation I can offer is that tastes vary. Also I am mainly sticking to favourites and rarely take a new girl on first sighting. I took till 2nd visit to try Lavinia because was occupied with my regulars. Then there are little things. Wrong shaped nose can put me off, also piercings, also covering the tits, etc.

True super stunners like former Marie and Cassandra are always taken though.

Gentlemen,

How thin or bad is the line up at Oase or Palace for the period between December 24 until January 5?

If I can get to the FKK's during that period, will I be sorry I came because there are no hot girls there, because most girls went home for vacations and too few remain working in Oase or Palace to make it a good trip?

Who has been in Oase or Palace during the same period December 24 until January 5, in previous years, and can you describe what kind of line up was there in terms of quality and quantity?

Is it a big mistake to come to FKK's then?

I have time to travel then, but don't want to have a lousy trip by going to FKK's unless it can be good there.

[QUOTE=LilJoey; 1481299]Gentlemen,

How thin or bad is the line up at Oase or Palace for the period between December 24 until January 5?

If I can get to the FKK's during that period, will I be sorry I came because there are no hot girls there, because most girls went home for vacations and too few remain working in Oase or Palace to make it a good trip?

Who has been in Oase or Palace during the same period December 24 until January 5, in previous years, and can you describe what kind of line up was there in terms of quality and quantity?

Is it a big mistake to come to FKK's then?

I have time to travel then, but don't want to have a lousy trip by going to FKK's unless it can be good there.[/QUOTE]Read the reports especially those nearing new year. Last year line up during the time you specified was one of the worst. I would avoid this time if I was you. If you can reschedule.

[QUOTE=LilJoey; 1481299]Gentlemen,

How thin or bad is the line up at Oase or Palace for the period between December 24 until January 5?

If I can get to the FKK's during that period, will I be sorry I came because there are no hot girls there, because most girls went home for vacations and too few remain working in Oase or Palace to make it a good trip?

Is it a big mistake to come to FKK's then?[/QUOTE]It will be a barren, destitute wasteland. You will only find a few buffaloes roaming the plains there. You would be better off staying home and molesting yourself.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1481333]Read the reports especially those nearing new year. Last year line up during the time you specified was one of the worst. I would avoid this time if I was you. If you can reschedule.[/QUOTE]I did read the reports for the dates at the end of December 2012 and into 2013, and there were no statements contained in them indicating the nature of the line up. In fact there were reports about the Sylvester party, and reports for the days after that and continuing until the beginning of January. So from the reports at the end of 2012 it seemed that there was what to fuck in the clubs on those days. That is why I asked for an accurate description from those who have been in the FKK's at this time and know from personal experience rather than by hearsay and rumor, are there any hot girls to fuck who stay at the clubs and work, and do not go home?

[QUOTE=LilJoey; 1481299]Gentlemen,

How thin or bad is the line up at Oase or Palace for the period between December 24 until January 5?[/QUOTE]I spend last year two days between Christmas and New Years Eve at Oase. Till late afternoon only a few girls were working. But this has changed with entering the nightshift. On Friday and Saturday were around 50 girls working at nightshift including many well known very good performers e. G. Lavinia. Due to the fact that only some guys were at club this were two very good relaxing days with nice available girls.

A total desaster was only the Oase New Years Eve Party with around 25 girls and 300 guys.

[QUOTE=Craiova; 1481471]I spend last year two days between Christmas and New Years Eve at Oase. Till late afternoon only a few girls were working. But this has changed with entering the nightshift. On Friday and Saturday were around 50 girls working at nightshift including many well known very good performers e. G. Lavinia. Due to the fact that only some guys were at club this were two very good relaxing days with nice available girls.

A total desaster was only the Oase New Years Eve Party with around 25 girls and 300 guys.[/QUOTE]Could have made it into gangbang scene LOL.

Just wanted to know if the two ebony sisters from Aruba are still around OASE or where they may have gone. Had a few great sessions with them about eight months ago. Any news on their whereabouts?

Is ball sucking considered an extra and if yes how much?

Just in case if I decide to go to Oase does anyone here know beauifull girls who provide this service and does not charge extra?

- Lavinia for istance lick it but she doesn't suck it.

[QUOTE=CRichards;1482302]Just wanted to know if the two ebony sisters from Aruba are still around OASE or where they may have gone. Had a few great sessions with them about eight months ago. Any news on their whereabouts?[/QUOTE]Richard are you refering to the Tina Turner sister? Are they really good? What service do they provide that make it so good? Do share as I would relly like to know?

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1482387]Is ball sucking considered an extra and if yes how much?[/QUOTE]Ball licking and ball sucking is usually at no extra. A lot of girls do some don't. Unfortunatly Oase develops more and more to a "tourists club". That means there aren't anymore so many regular clients and more and more once in a lifetime clients. And of course the girls try to sell things like ball licking or DFK as extra and some guys accept. I would never accept this. For instance I received this week even a fantastic rim job from a nice young girl included only by negotiating I stay one hour with her in room. Due to the fact that in allmost all Frankfurt area clubs we have a very weak business for the girls guys can make some good deals with the girls.

Hmm Lavinia I was quite often at world times with her and I believe she made very good ball sucking with me. Girls at Oase I remember and still there and doing good ball sucking e. G. Krina, Anna, Steffi and many more.

Due to mentioned facts I prefer the last year Sharks and Mainhattan. In both clubs I can recommend you some young nice girls doing super ball sucking included.

My first trip to an FKK. I took a train (S5) from Frankfurt and taxi. The taxi from Bad Hamburg was just over 15€ (not 12 as was reported here) and there were several waiting. I decided that saving the extra time (reported to be over an hour, round trip) was worth the extra cost going to Bad Hamburg versus Friedrischsdorf (5x2=10€ as reported but 16€ as experienced if the cost to Friedrichsdorf is accurate at 7€). Also, I went on a Sunday afternoon when finding a taxi could have been an issue.

Yes, I went on a Sunday even though I knew there would be fewer women because it fit in with my travel plans (I had arrived in Frankfurt late the night before). I was hoping that being the last day of the Auto Show in Frankfurt there would more activity but I was disappointed in the numbers (maybe around 20 women when I arrived and 40 in the early evening) and quality. I was told that the night before (a Saturday) there were 200 women and that you had to wait up to a half an hour for a room so there are advantages to going when it is less crowded.

I was impressed by the size and opulence of Oase. The outdoor area would be very nice when it was warm enough. As it was in late September there were only a few men outside and with one exception the only women outside were smoking or talking on their phones. The exception was a couple who went into an outside cabana for sex but they came from and went back indoors immediately afterwards.

You get a small locker upstairs (for money) and a bigger (but not very big) locker downstairs for your clothes. As has been written here the food situation isn't great. You get two wrist bands when you pay your admission (70€). One of them is worth a 10€ credit for food. I had the seafood pasta and it was acceptable. The only thing that I drink that was free was water. I am not big on alcohol so that was no problem with me but I would have prefered a juice as an option.

You get a robe and a towel when you check in (and sandals). I don't know why they are so stingy with towels but I kept my damp towel in my locker and walked around with the robe and that is a better situation than at Mainhatten where I went later as there you only get one towel. It can't be that expensive to have a supply of towels so that you can get a dry one each time you shower.

An important lesson: I didn't want anything special so I didn't discuss things before taking my first woman to a room. Miriam from Romania told me in the room that the 50€ only paid for a BJ and sex. Any sucking, DATY, etc. Was another 50€. She also offered a massage for that 50€ so I paid for my "lesson". The session was good and with the massage we probably went for an unrushed 45 minutes but I learned my lesson. I confirmed my few requirements with all the other women I went with and always paid just the 50€. However, all those other sessions ended quickly after I was "finished".

I stuck around till after dinner hoping that an evening shift would arrive. There were a few more women but not not many. However, I did find a second acceptable woman and had a session with Anna Marie from Transylvania. The service in both my sessions was good (not great) but both women I went with would be 7's in my rating scheme. Most of the ones I saw were 5-6's.

Comparing FKK's with other venues I have been to: Aside from the women there were a lot of other things to do such as drink at the bar, watch porno movies / tv (football / soccer) , eat, get a massage, shower / jacuzzi / sauna, and if the weather had been nicer swim / play outdoor games. That is more options than anywhere I have been too and I was very impressed. Also, having all the women walk around naked is very nice, too. I should mention that most of the women spoke some English. Like me, several of the women didn't speak German. The sex wasn't as good as in termas in Rio. The saunas in Macau offered lots of interesting things to do like getting your ears cleaned, ball massage, pedicures, etc. Which I prefer to a sauna / jacuzzi.

Overall I liked the experience and would rate it highly. However, compared to many of the termas and saunas I have been to the women were not top rank. I know that I went at a non-prime time but a sauna in Bangkok at a similar time would have better looking women and better service (on average) in my experience and opinion. (Note, I went with two women in Mainhatten so this comparison is made with a sample size of 4.)

[QUOTE=JPF; 1482710]An important lesson: I didn't want anything special so I didn't discuss things before taking my first woman to a room. Miriam from Romania told me in the room that the 50€ only paid for a BJ and sex. Any sucking, DATY, etc. Was another 50€. She also offered a massage for that 50€ so I paid for my "lesson". The session was good and with the massage we probably went for an unrushed 45 minutes but I learned my lesson. I confirmed my few requirements with all the other women I went with and always paid just the 50€. However, all those other sessions ended quickly after I was "finished".

I stuck around till after dinner hoping that an evening shift would arrive. There were a few more women but not not many. However, I did find a second acceptable woman and had a session with Anna Marie from Transylvania. The service in both my sessions was good (not great) but both women I went with would be 7's in my rating scheme. Most of the ones I saw were 5-6's.[/QUOTE]Yes this is the normal attitutde with the new girls. Last year it wasn't like this. Dfk, DATY, owo, sex are all inclusive of 50 euro.

Can you give us Miriam and Anna Marie description. Tatoos? Hair colour, height and etc.

Easiest way to get to Oase from Frankfurt without driving is to get the S5 train to Friedrichsdorf and then a cab to Oase from the station. The countryside in Friedrichsdorf is quite pretty and my scumbag brain tried to make me walk to the club again, but the overcast skies brought me back to reason. Cab to Oase is just under a tenner. 8+change for the return ticket from Frankfurt.

Got there around 3pm on Friday a week ago. First impression from Oase is that it must be bloody brilliant in the summer. Even now, I spent a good half hour lounging in the still adequate sun with a cappuccino. Interior-wise, the jacuzzi room is easily the best bit. The couch area is way too dark I think. It's no surprise from reports, but the rooms were constantly filthy with overflowing bins and stained mattresses. Even the girls were complaining. I'd also like to address the terracotta elephant in the room (with gold pyjamas?) and say that the whole greco-roman thing is ridiculously overdone and tacky. Fake stone and marble is fine, maybe a few columns, but dozens of plaster statues with golden clothes (and then kamasutra pics in the rooms) are so far past good taste that I'm wondering if it's some inside joke by the designer.

Girl-wise, there are definitely more grade-A stunners here than Mainhattan and probably Sharks too, or at least there were by the start of the night.

[b]Daniela+Diana[/b]: I stayed way below my budget for the first 2 days (especially at Sharks) , so I figured I'd splurge a bit more on my first FKK threesome. They are both Hungarian with dyed blonde hair. The curly one has a slightly better figure but the one with thicker straight hair has better tits. Both are great speciments. A one hour session with BJ, sex, DATY, two shots, massage in the middle, dual cim on one shot and lesbian show was a cool €400. Maybe a bit steep, but fuck it, I felt like it and the girls really performed. Only criticism to the session was that they would occasionally synchronise and change positions by speaking in Hungarian between them, which is bad manners if nothing else.

Note for new players: these girls will sexually rock your world by being open to most stuff, but make no mistake about it, they are absolute sharks. If you don't keep your wits about you and your guard up, they'll upsell you to your credit card limit and back in a heartbeat. Whenever one of them tries to introduce some new way of play (cim, anal fingering, whatever) by asking you if you like it, you ask "how much extra for that?" and stop everything until you get an answer. They're not dishonest, if you pay for it you'll get it and damn if you won't get it good, but an inexperienced, timid punter can end up with a €700 threesome once they start getting asses involved unless he puts an end to it early. There, now I won't feel guilty if you throw away a whole day's budget on these two sex machines.

[b]Andrea[/b]. Long haired (straightened blonde) Romanian with a little upper lip stud that almost looks like a birth mark. Likes kissing quite a bit. She accepted DATY with no issue and even made happy noises but later confided she's not a big fan of it. Gently tried for the cim upsell but didn't push it. Nice girl, nothing amazing.

[b]Jennifer[/b] (I think). Another Romanian with an upper lip stud, brunette this time, around 1. 63 without heels. Couldn't shake the feeling that I knew her from somewhere until I heard an Italian dude say she looks like Cindy Crawford and I'll be damned if she doesn't! Cute and nice, kissing and light DATY are on the house. She's pretty tight down below too (and proud of it) if it's something you're looking for specifically. Only potential problem is that she's quite ticklish so if you like manhandling girls in bed by grabbing their waist and moving them about (who doesn't?) , bad luck.

Of the girls I refused either due to not enough interest or not enough strength, I can recall 2-3 girls turn around and walk away without so much as an "ok". Can't recall names sadly. There were a lot more girls I'd like to have a go with but it was starting to get properly crowded so I grabbed dinner and headed out around 8:30. Over my stay I'd asked several girls including the receptionist what the best pizza is and the consensus seemed to be the "special", no. 3 on the menu. It really was excellent.

Overall, I'd say Oase was pretty good. I'm sure the outdoor area pushes it to stellar in the summer. The interior spaces don't offer anything special. The lineup is the best I've seen this week. Food was really terrific.

Quick note on the clientele: most of the people there were tourists or businessmen in town temporarily (including myself for that matter). Few regulars as far as I could make out, lots of oriental Asians, some Italians and a few Russians.


JPF mentioned FKKs being stingy with towels.

In every FKK I hit on my week in Frankfurt (Mainhattan, Sharks, Oase) I used at least 6 towels or more. You can get clean ones from the racks near reception any time you want. Get a couple, use one to dry after shower, toss it in the bins in the changing room and use the second one to walk around with. Repeat after sessions / sauna.

[QUOTE=JPF;1482710]My first trip to an FKK. I took a train (S5) from Frankfurt and taxi. The taxi from Bad Hamburg was just over 15€ (not 12 as was reported here) and there were several waiting. I decided that saving the extra time (reported to be over an hour, round trip) was worth the extra cost going to Bad Hamburg versus Friedrischsdorf (5x2=10€ as reported but 16€ as experienced if the cost to Friedrichsdorf is accurate at 7€). Also, I went on a Sunday afternoon when finding a taxi could have been an issue.[/QUOTE]I have taken taxis many times. From Friedrichsdorf its a little under 10 Euros, Perhaps 8 Euros+ (one way) for most optimal route. From Bad Homburg, if the taxi takes a cost optimal route it will be just under 15 Euros (never got 12 Euros - not possible on a meter I think). Often taxis do not pick the best route for cost optimization. They will pick a route where they can drive faster and more relaxed but may be longer. One taxi took me a very stupid route that was possibly the shortest distance but involved many traffic lights, wasted time and did not save any money.

Not sure if Sunday has a different taxi meter rate or not.

[QUOTE=JPF;1482710]
Overall I liked the experience and would rate it highly. However, compared to many of the termas and saunas I have been to the women were not top rank. I know that I went at a non-prime time but a sauna in Bangkok at a similar time would have better looking women and better service (on average) in my experience and opinion. (Note, I went with two women in Mainhatten so this comparison is made with a sample size of 4.)[/QUOTE]

You can't compare (well makes little sense) a non-peak time FKK club with something in another country. Its just not relevant, as completely culturally dissimilar, about what happens on a Sunday. "Sauna in Bangkok"? I live in Bangkok part time, and have been mongering to a wide variety of places but I don't ever recall using or rarely even seeing a Sauna. Its a hot country. Saunas would not be so popular I think. What sort of Sauna places do you refer to? Perhaps you not mean an actual "Sauna"? I don't use saunas so maybe just unaware.

I have a pretty good day on a Sunday at Oase after checking that Lavinia would be attending. Plus some other known good girls were around, even if wasn't top line up.

[QUOTE=Kempis; 1482849][b]Daniela+Diana[/b]: I stayed way below my budget for the first 2 days (especially at Sharks) , so I figured I'd splurge a bit more on my first FKK threesome. They are both Hungarian with dyed blonde hair. The curly one has a slightly better figure but the one with thicker straight hair has better tits. Both are great speciments. A one hour session with BJ, sex, DATY, two shots, massage in the middle, dual cim on one shot and lesbian show was a cool €400. Maybe a bit steep, but fuck it, I felt like it and the girls really performed. Only criticism to the session was that they would occasionally synchronise and change positions by speaking in Hungarian between them, which is bad manners if nothing else.

[b]Jennifer[/b] (I think). Another Romanian with an upper lip stud, brunette this time, around 1. 63 without heels. Couldn't shake the feeling that I knew her from somewhere until I heard an Italian dude say she looks like Cindy Crawford and I'll be damned if she doesn't! Cute and nice, kissing and light DATY are on the house. She's pretty tight down below too (and proud of it) if it's something you're looking for specifically. Only potential problem is that she's quite ticklish so if you like manhandling girls in bed by grabbing their waist and moving them about (who doesn't?) , bad luck.[/QUOTE]Thank for the report kempis.

Did you try fingering the girls and do they charge extra for that?

The price for thereesome with the services you said was correct. It is 400 euro. But my last experience is that I only wanted to CIM in only 1 girl mouth but suddenhly the other just came in and took my carbonara sauce as well hence it is 50 euro for her too. However in you lesbian show did this two lick each other pussy or just light nad fast licking?

[QUOTE=Kempis; 1482849][b]Daniela+Diana[/b]:

Only criticism to the session was that they would occasionally synchronise and change positions by speaking in Hungarian between them, which is bad manners if nothing else.[/QUOTE]Do you actually know Hungarian at all? LOL, or could at least recognise it? The reason I ask is that real Hungarians are very few, confirmed by a Hungarian girl Silvia (supposedly Hungarian. I could not check) , and so in all probability they may have been speaking Romanian together. Some of the Slovakian and Serbian girls are also reported to be really Romanian. Its very hard to tell for sure. I do recognise some Romanian words these days though.

Its not impossible that they were Hungarian, just moderately low odds. At the time Silvia told me she was Hungarian, she mentioned that she had found only 2 others that could speak Hungarian, and Judith was one of those. I guess Daniela and Diana might be newer girls, since that time.

The girls seem to be well used to other girls making up exotic places that they come from, and therefore don't bat an eyelid, but occasionally some girl indirectly dobs in other girls as not being from where they said.

I don't really care which countries the girls are from, its more a source of amusement, but don't be too sure which language they might be speaking. LOL. I make wrong assumptions myself.

If girls are Asian I am able to speak enough of most Asian languages to check, or at least know what they sound like, but I would have no idea what Hungarian sounds like, not yet having been there.

I have certainly met girls claiming to be Thai and Filipino that could not speak the language at all.

Luisa (Morroco?) was one of those. I often claim to come from Thailand too, for fun, since I do speak Thai and live there part time, but do not look like a Thai.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1482989]Do you actually know Hungarian at all? LOL, or could at least recognise it? The reason I ask is that real Hungarians are very few, confirmed by a Hungarian girl Silvia (supposedly Hungarian. I could not check) , and so in all probability they may have been speaking Romanian together. Some of the Slovakian and Serbian girls are also reported to be really Romanian. Its very hard to tell for sure. I do recognise some Romanian words these days though.

Luisa (Morroco?) was one of those. I often claim to come from Thailand too, for fun, since I do speak Thai and live there part time, but do not look like a Thai.[/QUOTE]On my first visit to FKK which was fkk Oase I once met a beautifull girl by the name of Samira who claims she is from Turkey. Looks Turkish and yeah she was a hot Turkish girl and when we went to the room I was so glad as she was freaking good. Once session was done and was going to have dinner she invited me to sit with her and her friends. And of course she was speaking Romanian. I then asked "hey you speaked Romanian too" and she laughed and smiled the same with her friends. It was then I realized apart from the Germans chances are you are bonking a Romanian.

It happens on your first trip. If you are from say oz, nz, USA, Japan and you are smilling after coming back from Oase thinking you have fucked a beautifull Hungarian, German, Romania, Turkey, Greece and Egypt. Well chances are you are probably bonked Germans and Romanians. LOL.

But to tell you the truth the best GFE in fkk so far have been Romanians and Moldovian (but could be Romanians too) ok English hookers as well (from my recent trip to London). And the worst is also Romanians. LOL.

Syzgies do you know how long Lavinia will be in Oase. Last time she was there I didn't see her.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1482989]Do you actually know Hungarian at all? LOL, or could at least recognise it? The reason I ask is that real Hungarians are very few, confirmed by a Hungarian girl Silvia (supposedly Hungarian. I could not check) , and so in all probability they may have been speaking Romanian together. Some of the Slovakian and Serbian girls are also reported to be really Romanian. Its very hard to tell for sure. I do recognise some Romanian words these days though.[/QUOTE]I would definitely not be surprised at all if they weren't Hungarian. Didn't really pay much attention to what they were saying (they were being fairly low volume, whispering even) since I had more important matters on my mind at the time, as you can imagine! It did sound a bit more slavic than Romanian but I really wouldn't be able to tell you.

In any case, I don't really care about nationality, and was in fact very surprised when several girls from all clubs I visited told me in conversation that some guys would turn them down on the mere mention of them being Romanian. I guess some girls decide that differentiating themselves or hiding the fact they're Romanian will help them get more work.

Did bump into a couple of Bulgarians in Mainhattan after another Bulgarian told me there were only 2 of them in the club (her and her friend). Any one of them could be lying for whatever reason. Could be simply making stuff up to avoid getting bored having the same conversations with guys!

[QUOTE=Kempis;1482849][b]Daniela+Diana[/b]: They are both Hungarian with dyed blonde hair. The curly one has a slightly better figure but the one with thicker straight hair has better tits.[/QUOTE]I saw Daniela and Diana prowl together last month, so I think these are the girls you were with. I have been with Daniela many times since last summer, and she is Romanian. Last year, she was called Anda. Diana is the old timer Romanian discussed many times in this forum, whose hair I believe has turned blonde when I saw her last month, such that I did not recognise her at first. Both are super performers.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1482728]Can you give us Miriam and Anna Marie description. Tatoos? Hair colour, height and etc.[/QUOTE]Sorry but after 2 weeks all four of the women I went with have sort of merged together in my mind and I can't give you distinguishing features. Both women in Oase had dark brown hair and were of average height which won't help you at all. I don't recall any distinguishing tattoos.

[QUOTE=Kempis; 1482849]

JPF mentioned FKKs being stingy with towels.

In every FKK I hit on my week in Frankfurt (Mainhattan, Sharks, Oase) I used at least 6 towels or more. You can get clean ones from the racks near reception any time you want. Get a couple, use one to dry after shower, toss it in the bins in the changing room and use the second one to walk around with. Repeat after sessions / sauna.[/QUOTE]

That is a primary reason I offer my reports: so others can learn from my mistakes. Thanks for the info.

At both Oase and Mainhattan I told them it was my first time and they gave me a long talk on the way things worked there but neither FKK told me about how to get fresh towel and I wasn't near reception very often to notice someone else replacing their towel.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1482887]You can't compare (well makes little sense) a non-peak time FKK club with something in another country. Its just not relevant, as completely culturally dissimilar, about what happens on a Sunday. "Sauna in Bangkok"? I live in Bangkok part time, and have been mongering to a wide variety of places but I don't ever recall using or rarely even seeing a Sauna. Its a hot country. Saunas would not be so popular I think. What sort of Sauna places do you refer to? Perhaps you not mean an actual "Sauna"? I don't use saunas so maybe just unaware.[/QUOTE]I am sorry that it doesn't make sense to you to compare different experiences in different countries. It does to me and perhaps it might to someone else who had experienced some but not all the different venues I described and was trying to decide if going to a new country is right for them. I qualified my answer by saying I had a small sample size in the FKKs and of course everyone's experience can be different but in my opinion every data point is useful.

I am sorry that I used the word "sauna" in describing the venues in Bangkok. I guess I had termas and Chinese saunas on the mind. What I meant and should have referred to are the fishbowl massage parlors in Bangkok (both soapies and oil massage with sex).

[QUOTE=JPF; 1483298]I am sorry that it doesn't make sense to you to compare different experiences in different countries. It does to me and perhaps it might to someone else who had experienced some but not all the different venues I described and was trying to decide if going to a new country is right for them. I qualified my answer by saying I had a small sample size in the FKKs and of course everyone's experience can be different but in my opinion every data point is useful.

I am sorry that I used the word "sauna" in describing the venues in Bangkok. I guess I had termas and Chinese saunas on the mind. What I meant and should have referred to are the fishbowl massage parlors in Bangkok (both soapies and oil massage with sex).[/QUOTE]okay I think comparisons are fine in general. I just didn't think that a particular time on a Sunday was a useful parameter. It would be better to compare the peak time at FKK Oase which is probably Saturday night from 7 or 8PM, with a peak time at a Bangkok Soapy venue which might well be 6PM on a Friday or Saturday. The FKK would have heaps more girls in general. I know little about Termas and Saunas.

For daytime Sunday, Sharks is pretty good right now due to cheap entry price attracting the customers and also the girls. Probably significantly better line up than Oase early on Sunday. Oase can be O.K. on Sunday daytime during good weather in the Summer, however a problem is most early customers are German and many of them seem to sit around and relax not at all worrying about looking for sex too quickly. So the girl line up is then typically limited.

... aka the young Demi Moore lookalike is back.

[QUOTE=Shark16;1483397]Daniela. aka the young Demi Moore lookalike is back.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Finally after 18 months. Lol. Still looks the same?

Coincidence? Tanktank just posted that blonde "Hungarian" Anda who is really romanian has returned to Oase with the name Daniela. Black hair Demi Moore Lookalike Daniela worked at a different club after she left Oase as Anda.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1483401]Thanks. Finally after 18 months. Lol. Still looks the same?[/QUOTE]Hey Banana,
Looks good. Body still smoking. Decent service. High in demand.

Daniela has still black hair. I never checked if she now uses a different name.

Anda:
- I knew a Romanian Anda from a year back who I don't think is there anymore (blond and skinny, have not seen her for about a year, she was pretty regular at Oase for about a year, decent service but I did not click 100% with her).
- I observed another Hungarian Anda at Oase this summer. Don't know much about her.
- Right now there is a third blackhaired Anda from Romania at Oase. I don't know anything about her other than that this is a different girl than Daniela/Demi Moore.

Cheers,
S16

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1483319]okay I think comparisons are fine in general. I just didn't think that a particular time on a Sunday was a useful parameter. It would be better to compare the peak time at FKK Oase which is probably Saturday night from 7 or 8PM, with a peak time at a Bangkok Soapy venue which might well be 6PM on a Friday or Saturday. The FKK would have heaps more girls in general. I know little about Termas and Saunas.[/QUOTE]In Bangkok I tend to go to massage / soapies in the afternoon and gogo bars (Nana or Cowboy) in the evening so for people like me the afternoon comparison is more relevant.

Two other points: I was at Oase from about 2pm till 9pm on a Sunday so saw both the afternoon and evening shift. Similar with Mainhatten on a Tuesday (I have not finished writing that report yet but my results in terms of women was about the same). Second, besides quantity of women I was also comparing on quality of their looks and I didn't find any 8's in the FKKs while I have in soapies (but my sample size is a lot larger there).

For me there are several 8s at Oase: Lavina, Amalia, Roxy, Magda, Carla. Perhaps you mark tougher. You may have been unlucky with the day. Absolute stunners are rare and similarly rare in Bangkok Oilies and Soapies. Many fake looks in Bangkok Soapies.

[QUOTE=Shark16; 1483402]Anda:

- I knew a Romanian Anda from a year back who I don't think is there anymore (blond and skinny, have not seen her for about a year, she was pretty regular at Oase for about a year, decent service but I did not click 100% with her).

- Right now there is a third blackhaired Anda from Romania at Oase. I don't know anything about her other than that this is a different girl than Daniela / Demi Moore.[/QUOTE]It is this blond and skinny Anda, now Daniela, and who was a regular last year that I was referring to, who is now back. She does not look like Demi Moore at all. I sessioned with her twice last month. She had to change her name due to the arrival of the 3rd black-haired Anda.

Checkout the last part with the girl wearing a black shirt.

[url]http://efukt.com/21098_Intentionally_Caught_Jacking_Off_2.html[/url]

I am not a smoker, so I don't know smoking policy in the clubs. But I will travel with the smoker. So my question is: where he could smoke in Oase. He needs two cigarettes per hour as minimum.

Second question: what is the latest time that we could order dinner in Oase?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Jymondor; 1485135]I am not a smoker, so I don't know smoking policy in the clubs. But I will travel with the smoker. So my question is: where he could smoke in Oase. He needs two cigarettes per hour as minimum.

Second question: what is the latest time that we could order dinner in Oase?

Thanks[/QUOTE]In the club, there are designated smoking areas such as the main lounge.

[QUOTE=Jymondor; 1485135]I am not a smoker, so I don't know smoking policy in the clubs. But I will travel with the smoker. So my question is: where he could smoke in Oase. He needs two cigarettes per hour as minimum.

Second question: what is the latest time that we could order dinner in Oase?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Your friend can smoke inside at Oase in the designated smoking areas. Particularly the kino area and the lounge area around the podium with the pole. The area near the bar where there is sofa seating adjacent the kino is non smoking the wellness area is also non smokibg but part of the wellness area closest the doors to the garden are smoking so it is a fine line.

Food is served up to 1 hour before closing time. So if its 4am closing the food is to 3am and if closing is 5 am then its 4 am food is served to.

Anybody met recently Alina aka Catherine Zeta Jones?

[QUOTE=Jymondor; 1485135]I am not a smoker, so I don't know smoking policy in the clubs. But I will travel with the smoker. So my question is: where he could smoke in Oase. He needs two cigarettes per hour as minimum.

Second question: what is the latest time that we could order dinner in Oase?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Smoking is not a problem. 90% of the girls need a smoke. Many places.

I think there is still food to moderately late. Don't know the time though. It's never been an issue. If you have a medical issue pack some emergency bananas in your bag.

Some guys don't show till very late. I guess they may still want to eat something. Check web site. May have open hours for Restaurant.

[QUOTE=JrSimon;1485221]Anybody met recently Alina aka Catherine Zeta Jones?[/QUOTE]The only girl I have met whose face looked like Zeta jones was Ilona (Ven) and she says she gets a lot of Zeta Jones comments. She is voluptuous with implants.

I did not meet any Alina's at all, even though there have been several, so no idea which one looks like Zeta Jones. I am guessing she has not been around recently. Will check further.

She looks like this :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=179995&d=1358967858[/url]

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1485269]The only girl I have met whose face looked like Zeta jones was Ilona (Ven) and she says she gets a lot of Zeta Jones comments. She is voluptuous with implants.

I did not meet any Alina's at all, even though there have been several, so no idea which one looks like Zeta Jones. I am guessing she has not been around recently. Will check further.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JrSimon;1485221]Anybody met recently Alina aka Catherine Zeta Jones?[/QUOTE]I saw her at Oase a few days ago.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1485269]I am guessing she has not been around recently.[/QUOTE]How about just keeping quiet if you have no clue?

[QUOTE=JrSimon;1485221]Anybody met recently Alina aka Catherine Zeta Jones?[/QUOTE]I no see Alina the one that look like Catherine the Zeta Jones. Only Alina is the one that has been at Oase for many years. This was during visit last week.

Maybe we see this weekend.

Yakob, Nice to hear you. If you are at Oasa tomorrow Saturday. Will be nice to see you. I will be there!

At Palace tonight and Shark on Sunday.

[QUOTE=JrSimon;1485221]Anybody met recently Alina aka Catherine Zeta Jones?[/QUOTE]Just confirming that Ahasveros is right. She was there last week.

It's funny how vets like Syzy and Yakob do not know her, as she is arguably the hottest girl in the club. All natural with killer curves. Maybe she also uses a different name at times? I never ask her name any more as I have known her for a couple of years now.

Alina1. Ro was also there. Always hangs together with Elena, if that really helps. The Elena I know is dark blond with quite long hair this time.

[QUOTE=Shark16; 1485436]Just confirming that Ahasveros is right. She was there last week.

It's funny how vets like Syzy and Yakob do not know her, as she is arguably the hottest girl in the club. All natural with killer curves. Maybe she also uses a different name at times? I never ask her name any more as I have known her for a couple of years now.[/QUOTE]Alina number 2 is definitely pretty, but your description of her as having "killer curves" shows just how subjective this game can be. I turned her down because to me, at least at the time I saw her, she was just too skinny! What I call a walking "stick with tits". Well, to each his own! I wonder if she knows we all refer to her as Alina Zeta-Jones? LOL!

I have not seen Zeta-Jones either. What day does she hang out at the club? I've been going there on occasions on Saturdays and never seen a hot Zeta-Jones. I'm not going there with 70 entry fee with 40min wait for Pizzas, it's not a long term club anymore because of the limited food (although food sucked) , and extra expenses for food. At Sharks you can get the same pizza for free with 10min wait times. Oase is really not heading in the right direction.

[QUOTE=Shark16; 1485436]Just confirming that Ahasveros is right. She was there last week.

It's funny how vets like Syzy and Yakob do not know her, as she is arguably the hottest girl in the club. All natural with killer curves. Maybe she also uses a different name at times? I never ask her name any more as I have known her for a couple of years now.

Alina1. Ro was also there. Always hangs together with Elena, if that really helps. The Elena I know is dark blond with quite long hair this time.[/QUOTE]Only Illona Zeta-Jones (Ven) tonight. No all natural killer curves Zeta Jones. Must she avoids nights when I go there (mostly Saturdays and some Fridays). Elena also missing, as was Amalia, Magda, Sylvia, both Carlas, and many others. Laura would probably have been the best looking curvy brunette tonight with a few pretty slim ones too.

Met tall blonde Diana who looks like Scarlet Johannson, together with Dana (very big saggies) and Analise, but decided to take Rena (Rina) (Rom) recently from World. 26 year old blonde with nice tits (like an 18 year old). She turned out to be a very sweet girl as you would expect from World. Good session.

Managed to get to Lavinia late before she went home.

Another busy blonde had a small ass and large curls, who I maybe would have liked to try.

Many girls with great bodies. Few with the face to match it. No Thai girls, only one black girl and she was not pretty. Many many very new girls. I know less than half of the girls these days.

Can I leave Oase, grab some food, and come back in an hour or so?

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1485487]Can I leave Oase, grab some food, and come back in an hour or so?[/QUOTE]Yes you can and people have gone to this extent during my recent visit. It will only make sense if you have a car. I would advise against this if you are taking public transportation.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1485487]Can I leave Oase, grab some food, and come back in an hour or so?[/QUOTE]Of course, I've done that before. They will save your locker.

[QUOTE=JrSimon; 1485356]Yakob, Nice to hear you. If you are at Oasa tomorrow Saturday. Will be nice to see you. I will be there!

At Palace tonight and Shark on Sunday.[/QUOTE]Sorry. I not go Palace at the minute. I go World this night. Sunday we see at Sharks. Sat I am not at Oase.

[QUOTE=Shark16; 1485436]Just confirming that Ahasveros is right. She was there last week.

It's funny how vets like Syzy and Yakob do not know her, as she is arguably the hottest girl in the club. All natural with killer curves. Maybe she also uses a different name at times? I never ask her name any more as I have known her for a couple of years now.

Alina1. Ro was also there. Always hangs together with Elena, if that really helps. The Elena I know is dark blond with quite long hair this time.[/QUOTE]Shark16,

I need to make a correction of your testimony.

I know who Alina (Catherine) is. I have fucked her before and enjoyed her glorious round shaped tits. I just did not see her during my visit that is all.

That is what I write. I no say I did not know who Alina is. It is Syzgies who says that he has no ken of Alina. Do not lump me with Syzgies.

[QUOTE=Yakob; 1485319]I no see Alina the one that look like Catherine the Zeta Jones. Only Alina is the one that has been at Oase for many years. This was during visit last week.

Maybe we see this weekend.[/QUOTE]Its understandable that you are misinterpreted. "no" cannot be used with a verb. Use "not" instead.

If you wrote "I did not see Alina (Z-J)", it would be clearer."I no see" is not English (Spanglish?) so could be interpreted as "I never saw Alina". In English "no" normally means "keine" or by itself "nein" but "not" means "nicht".

"no" should only be used with nouns. e.g. "there was no food (nothing to eat)". So "no" means like "not any" or "none".

None of us are perfect, and make many mistakes and spelling errors, but you really should make the effort to use "not". Doesn't really matter if the verb tense is not perfectly correct.

Just my opinions. Naturally you can do as you like.

[QUOTE=Yakob; 1485520]Shark16,

I need to make a correction of your testimony.

I know who Alina (Catherine) is. I have fucked her before and enjoyed her glorious round shaped tits. I just did not see her during my visit that is all.[/QUOTE]No problem. Thanks. Glad we cleared that one.

Yakob is German, please cut him some slack, but yeah, it's not helpful to be misinterpreted.

[QUOTE=The Cane;1485476]Alina number 2 is definitely pretty, but your description of her as having "killer curves" shows just how subjective this game can be. I turned her down because to me, at least at the time I saw her, she was just too skinny! What I call a walking "stick with tits". Well, to each his own! I wonder if she knows we all refer to her as Alina Zeta-Jones? LOL![/QUOTE]Hey Cane,
You are absolutely right. This game is definetively a very subjective one. Too skinny for you. Probably too fat for Syzy as he keeps ignoring her (or maybe it's her nose. LOL!). Anyway, she is just perfect in my eyes.

Either way, all we can do is give our subjective opinions and hopefully new readers will find perspective when making decisions. Those "feinschmecker debates" can be confusing at times. At the end of the day I think all serious mongers/newcomers really need to make time to visit the major clubs at least once to make up their own minds. That's what I did back in '05 and never regretted it. Picking a favorite club with girls that suits one's personal taste and budget comes later.

Cheers,
S16
Still finding value for money at Oase

Whatever Yakob is, he's capable of writing correctly. He's making fun of us. Why? I don't know. I also don't care.

The Alina (2) you are talking about is an OK PSE session. Art least she was when I fucked her more than 12 months ago. She does give a very good and long BBBJ with CIM, at least if performed in public with people watching her. Had her blow me for 28 minutes on the rear couch in the cinema and then shot my load into her mouth. That was my 2nd and last session with her. There's too many better options.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1485728]Whatever Yakob is, he's capable of writing correctly. He's making fun of us. Why? I don't know. I also don't care.

HB[/QUOTE]That was my reaction when I read his posts. Some of his posts are good grammatically and spelling wise, but then others are just horrible. There is such a striking contrast, that it leads many to think that it's being done purposefully. I cannot think of a good reason why he would do such a thing. I don't see why he would make such an effort to make fun of us or waste time writing here.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1485668]Yakob is German, please cut him some slack, but yeah, it's not helpful to be misinterpreted.[/QUOTE]Yakob is NOT German. His native language is English. (Many of his posts betray this, as he uses many idiotmatic phrases that ONLY a native English-speaker would know / use.)

He purposely mis-spells, for his own (hidden) reason (s). Example: He often writes "mans" instead of "men" when he knows damn well there is no such word as "mans", so what is the point of all this????

It does get a bit boring, really, and often it does lead to utter confusion about what he is trying to say. (See Syzygies's post below). Hopefully he'll get the message and stop playing this game.

[QUOTE=Ortos;1485738]Hopefully he'll get the message and stop playing this game.[/QUOTE]By way of clarification, I would like to add to Yakob:

I and I am sure many others very much appreciate your posts, the information you give and the spirit in which you conduct you posting, etc. You are a very valuable member here, so please don't misinterpret our critical remarks about your spelling. But clearly it's time to stop the silly word games, right? Thanks again, and look forward to your next reports.

O

[QUOTE=Ortos; 1485777]By way of clarification, I would like to add to Yakob:

I and I am sure many others very much appreciate your posts, the information you give and the spirit in which you conduct you posting, etc. You are a very valuable member here, so please don't misinterpret our critical remarks about your spelling. But clearly it's time to stop the silly word games, right? Thanks again, and look forward to your next reports.

O[/QUOTE]Who cares where mongers are from as long they behave and provide good intel, LOL.

[QUOTE=Ortos;1485738]Yakob is NOT German. His native language is English. (Many of his posts betray this, as he uses many idiotmatic phrases that ONLY a native English-speaker would know / use.)[/QUOTE]Yakob my twin brother is no German? This man told me he is German? Did he lied. I feel like being fucked in the ass by Yakob.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1485783]Yakob my twin brother is no German? This man told me he is German? Did he lied.[/QUOTE]When you met Yakob: Was it breakfast time? Did he hold in one hand zwei Schweinhaxe and a 1 litre stein of bier in the other? According to HB, this is the true test of being German. DNA testing be damned! :)

O

The reason why I brought up he was German was because a friend of mine told me a dude was Yokob when I was at GT. He told me he was German. His English seams to have the natural trait native speakers use (when written) , but it is still possible he is in fact German, and his written skills are better, and yes it is very unusual that his writing at times is that bad, it's not very consistent that creates suspicion. Reason why it's puzzling for me is that he does provide good info to the forum, and I'm not convinced his posts are for amusement.

[QUOTE=Ortos; 1485820]When you met Yakob: Was it breakfast time? Did he hold in one hand zwei Schweinhaxe and a 1 litre stein of bier in the other? According to HB, this is the true test of being German. DNA testing be damned!

O[/QUOTE]He might be half and half?

atYakob : how do I recognize Sunday at Shark?

[QUOTE=Yakob;1485519]Sorry. I not go Palace at the minute. I go World this night. Sunday we see at Sharks. Sat I am not at Oase.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ortos; 1485738]Yakob is NOT German. His native language is English. (Many of his posts betray this, as he uses many idiotmatic phrases that ONLY a native English-speaker would know / use.)

He purposely mis-spells, for his own (hidden) reason (s). Example: He often writes "mans" instead of "men" when he knows damn well there is no such word as "mans", so what is the point of all this?

It does get a bit boring, really, and often it does lead to utter confusion about what he is trying to say. (See Syzygies's post below). Hopefully he'll get the message and stop playing this game.[/QUOTE]I can use idiomatic phrases in Thai. Does not prove I am Thai. Yakob typically has appalling typing when using a phone. Fat fingers? No spelling check?

Some bad English could be related to very old bad habits or could be done on purpose. Obviously he is the only one who really knows why he is rather inconsistent.

I agree that lack of using NOT seems inexplicable given other far more complex phrases."No comprendo". Could be scared of a wife reading his posts and recognizing his style. LOL.

"By her own testimony". This is a strange one. Sounds legalistic or from the past. Could be a literal translation from some other language. I am not sure if this is part of hiding his identity or instead would give it away. Never saw a normal English speaker use this phrase.

I will be at Sharks on Sunday and I think Yakob will recognise me, if present, and maybe say hello. Yakob and Indi reported seeing me at World before but maybe didn't know till they read my report. Eventually I might understand, but he probably doesn't want his nationality broadcast, understandably.

My guess is that he could be using an Android phone with Swiftkey type Keyboard or just sloppy with typing on a phone when he is in the club. But then again, he is missing words in his sentences..

atsyzygies : it looks everybody will be at shark today. Me too.

How did I recognize you?

My last visit to Oase was in June, more than 4 months ago. At the time, they had just started using the new locker room by the jacuzzi for men, but that is now alocated for the girls. (They had not yet instituted the new "Key" Zimmer system, thank God!) When I first walked into the upstairs locker room, I found it quite funny (actually a bit cheap too!) that they simply moved "lock, stock and barrell" the old shitty blue lockers upstairs.

Now they have completely rennovated the original Men's Locker Room downstairs, yes? My question: Did they move those shitty blue lockers back downstairs? or did Mauro fork out some euros to construct brand-new lockers for the men now? Just curious.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1486001]"By her own testimony". This is a strange one. Sounds legalistic or from the past. Could be a literal translation from some other language. I am not sure if this is part of hiding his identity or instead would give it away. Never saw a normal English speaker use this phrase.

I will be at Sharks on Sunday and I think Yakob will recognise me, if present, and maybe say hello. Yakob and Indi reported seeing me at World before but maybe didn't know till they read my report. Eventually I might understand, but he probably doesn't want his nationality broadcast, understandably.[/QUOTE]"By his / her / my / their (whatever) own testimony" is a standard idiomatic phrase that is well-known and used by any native English speaker. It is not out of date or reflective of anything in particular.

I suggest those who are not native English speakers will not recognise the "native tone" of natural English speakers. Same for German, Dutch or Thai or whatever language, even Swedish! LOL.

Anyway, we should move this discussion back to more relavant and important subjects, no? I find it extremely uncomfortable (and unfair) to make multiple posts about another member's possible nationality, etc. The point has been made that nobody should "take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]" (another idiomatic phrase) by purposely mis-using bad grammer or purposely mis-spell words because of some hidden agenda. So let's leave this guy alone and move on, that's what I say. He's a great guy and a fantastic poster and we should all respect him and everybody else who chooses to share their views / info.

O

[QUOTE=Ortos;1486026]Now they have completely rennovated the original Men's Locker Room downstairs, yes? My question: Did they move those shitty blue lockers back downstairs? or did Mauro fork out some euros to construct brand-new lockers for the men now? Just curious.[/QUOTE]I think I posted about 5x that the upstairs locker is for the girls and just temporarily used as rhe men's locker until the renovation downstairs is done. There are new lockers downstairs. Same size, same shape, different design. Will give you eye cancer just looking at it. LOL. The new locker area is big, bright and clean.

Girls are complaining about lack of customers since Mauro introduced the new restaurant system.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1486043]I think I posted about 5x that the upstairs locker is for the girls and just temporarily used as rhe men's locker until the renovation downstairs is done. There are new lockers downstairs. Same size, same shape, different design. Will give you eye cancer just looking at it. LOL. The new locker area is big, bright and clean.

Girls are complaining about lack of customers since Mauro introduced the new restaurant system.

HB[/QUOTE]Yes, that is exactly what I wrote: That the upstairs locker room was used temproarily as the men's changing area whilst the original dowstairs was being rennovated over the spring / summer months. So you need not post it a 6thx, LOL!

But thanks for answering the question. Are the new men's lockers all the same size, or did they preserve the shitty Nos 30-49 lockers that are half-size?

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1486043]Girls are complaining about lack of customers since Mauro introduced the new restaurant system.[/QUOTE]And are there less men going to the club now?

Or is it the same number of men going but now having to spend more on food they have less to give to the girls?

I've seen the food that comes out of the menu, and it's really not that great (wow soup, pizza, pasta you have to pay for? 10e is included with club fee(now 70e), but most on the menu is more expensive!) , I'd rather take the old buffet and be able to eat any time I wish instead of wating for 45 min on food that they cannot have proper chefs to organize it better(what do we pay the entry for?). They would try to guess who ordered the dish as they came out. Magnum Alacart has 20 euros included in it, and that's with 50e entry fee, and there is also a good buffet. The food at Magnum is many times better than what I've seen at Oase restraunt(which is crap that is overpriced). Even Sharks serves pizza of same size and quality for nothing. That's in addition to wurst, soup, and pastries for self serve all day.

The best experience foodwise is GT. GT is getting much better with their services when it comes to providing snack / meals. They have quality chefs and ingredients and the food is well made, there are varieties to choose from, it's provided throughout the day and night, and you can choose when to eat. In addition, they serve omlets earlier on, and other breakfast meats and pastries throughout the day. That's in addition to all the free beer you can drink. They are not tap beer you get at Mainhatten either, you have many choices. You also have choices of many bottled beer in the fridge for taking.

At times, I would take a gamble and pay the 65e entry to peak in and see if there are any interesting girls inside, but not anymore. I don't want to do that anymore with wait for food etc. Many bad decisions lately with the taking down of the Kino wall, and low service by the new girls. This place is going down hill real fast.

This was my one trusty club in FRA with Mainhatten, and FRA is not the goto detination as it used to be.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker; 1486091]I've seen the food that comes out of the menu, and it's really not that great (wow soup, pizza, pasta you have to pay for? 10e is included with club fee (now 70e) , but most on the menu is more expensive!) , I'd rather take the old buffet and be able to eat any time I wish instead of wating for 45 min on food that they cannot have proper chefs to organize it better (what do we pay the entry for?). They would try to guess who ordered the dish as they came out. Magnum Alacart has 20 euros included in it, and that's with 50e entry fee, and there is also a good buffet. The food at Magnum is many times better than what I've seen at Oase restraunt (which is crap that is overpriced). Even Sharks serves pizza of same size and quality for nothing. That's in addition to wurst, soup, and pastries for self serve all day.

The best experience foodwise is GT. GT is getting much better with their services when it comes to providing snack / meals. They have quality chefs and ingredients and the food is well made, there are varieties to choose from, it's provided throughout the day and night, and you can choose when to eat. In addition, they serve omlets earlier on, and other breakfast meats and pastries throughout the day. That's in addition to all the free beer you can drink. They are not tap beer you get at Mainhatten either, you have many choices. You also have choices of many bottled beer in the fridge for taking.

At times, I would take a gamble and pay the 65e entry to peak in and see if there are any interesting girls inside, but not anymore. I don't want to do that anymore with wait for food etc. Many bad decisions lately with the taking down of the Kino wall, and low service by the new girls. This place is going down hill real fast.

This was my one trusty club in FRA with Mainhatten, and FRA is not the goto detination as it used to be.[/QUOTE]I see your point and I do share your frustration at some of the changes that had gone through our faithful and favourite club, Oase. However, for me, as long as Elizabeth, Alicja, Jill, Steffi, Carla and Roxanne are still there and providing their excellent services, I will continue to support my regulars by attending Oase. Palace used to be my go to but I have been protesting by not attending that club due to poor services and attitude of the girls and not so much about the club change of layout etc. The only club that I regret not attending during my most recent visit was World which has always been good to me in terms of services and amenities, historically speaking f course. Thanks to my recent travel companion for introducing me to Bernds, I am hooked on Bernds and as a result I would rank Bernds up in the top 5 clubs for services and attitude. It's true when veterans on here say YMMV and it's all comes down to attitude. Treat others similar how you would want to be treated.

Hi,

I spent maybe 50 times I in the past years in the Oase and I think it will be my last visit. The new rule concerning the breakfast is not at all what I would like to consider a positive thing. I took my breakfast and 30 minutes latter, I just wanted to take a piece of bread and the waiter was very rude saying it is just once. The girls seems to have low business or are tired but there is no positive spirit at all so I will stop going there and concentrate my money on the World.

Magnum charges 60€ entrance fee now. But besides that a 20€ voucher for ecxcellent food is included you also have te all-you-can-eat basic buffet included. Big difference to Oase.

Girls told me that the number of men coming to Oase has decreased significantly. I can't verify, haven't been there in the last 4-5 weeks. Too many good alternatives at Sharks and World.

HB

PS: Some girls used to eat 2 soups (5€ each) for the 10€ wristband-voucher. Not anymore. Mauro increased he price for soup to 10€. What a ...

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1486043]Girls are complaining about lack of customers since Mauro introduced the new restaurant system.

HB[/QUOTE]How much have they put into the remodel? A million euro's give or take? If they only took the extra 5 euro's and just had a buffet spread available all day, would that be enough to pay off the remodel? If we assume an average of 400 guests per day (including the girls) , that's an extra 2000 euro's per day. 730000 extra per year. More than enough to pay off the remodel which in itself will draw more customers. But paying it off wasn't the goal, they want huge profits to go with it. Hence the skimpy food. Hope Mauro doesn't assume his job is secure, if business drops past old numbers he's just like any boss of a failing company. Expendable to the bottom line.

This is the way you should think about the new system. You get about 5E in food for a 5E increase in entry. So, all that has changed is the "free" food is gone and you can't order out. Yes. The number of men is down. I don't know how Mauro is going to afford the new ventilation system. It surely is expensive to build as well as operate. I can see the cheap bastard shutting it down except on the hottest days. He is essentially turning it into a red carpet club without the low prices. This is supposed to be a sauna club. A place to rest and relax. Yet, there is not place to sit. Maruro would have done better by creating a large room to show football games to attract a big crowd.

[QUOTE=Akibono;1486155]This is the way you should think about the new system. You get about 5E in food for a 5E increase in entry. So, all that has changed is the "free" food is gone and you can't order out. Yes. The number of men is down. I don't know how Mauro is going to afford the new ventilation system. It surely is expensive to build as well as operate. I can see the cheap bastard shutting it down except on the hottest days. He is essentially turning it into a red carpet club without the low prices. This is supposed to be a sauna club. A place to rest and relax. Yet, there is not place to sit. Maruro would have done better by creating a large room to show football games to attract a big crowd.[/QUOTE]That is kinda true, they raise the 5e and pretty much the restraunt food is worth about that much(acually no, other clubs provide food without pay). They get rid of the food they used to have(less spending), so you are forced to order food if you stay long term since you cannot order out. All this time, when the club was doing ok, they couldn't provide a decent chef? If you stay at the club long time, all the food you order adds up. The scheme is to raise more revenue, and at the cost of us paying alot more for greater profit as the renovations can still be paid off without the increase. It's been like this for years, they should have renovated the nasty facilities anyhow then be so damn cheap for so long. It is rather greedy on their part, given that the upkeep of the club is not being done well, as they don't provide fresh sheets for the rooms and etc. They are rather conservative with what they provide there compared to other clubs, not worth the entry. I think they have passed the line of their greediness.

What are we getting out of the 70? The girls are there, what else? I guess water, cola, and nasty coffee.

Lets compare to GT. Fresh clean sheets, clean rooms, free beer, great chef and food(you don't have to pay extra for). GT did go from 50 to 60, but I believe given the food services are much better, it's worth it, and they won't be hurting for business, since it didn't create a worse environment like Oase. With all that, it's still 10 lower than overpriced 70 at Oase. There is no comparison. Also, the girls complain of the filthy facilities, and it doesn't help attract the girls either.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1486158]Lets compare to GT. Fresh clean sheets, clean rooms, free beer, great chef and food(you don't have to pay extra for). GT did go from 50 to 60, but I believe given the food services are much better, it's worth it, and they won't be hurting for business, since it didn't create a worse environment like Oase. With all that, it's still 10 lower than overpriced 70 at Oase. There is no comparison. Also, the girls complain of the filthy facilities, and it doesn't help attract the girls either.[/QUOTE]If you can get in that is! LOL! GT does have the best food though. I'll give it that. And the normal NRW price for anal is right! Well, at least much lower than in Frankfurt.

Where I grew up in a large inner city environment in the uk words like mans and others yakob uses are all very common in street lingo styles. All this cloak and dagger stuff is hilarious. I'm single no kids so no need to do the secret service act but I do realise some of you are married. As for gt turning people away bumbaclot!

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1486117]PS: Some girls used to eat 2 soups (5€ each) for the 10€ wristband-voucher. Not anymore. Mauro increased he price for soup to 10€. What a .[/QUOTE]Blardy little chief!

This goon bussiness strategy is to turn this darn place into Palace minus the good food and the central location.

New girls are getting more sharky than ever and well I am ok with the pizza actually but come on punishing the girls? For a mere 5 euro? What the hell! Those girls are already poor on top of that have to pay their damn sponsors to meet their daily quota and now Mauro is trying to stranggle the girls too. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

Well I for one am not returning to Oase anytime soon as I have other clubs as my options! Plus with the current girl line up not much insentive anyway!

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Changes in setup, massive changes in girls. Many new girls, with potentially suspect performance. The old known girls are safer bets. Not everyone is happy including the girls. Amalia and her friend Bianca have shown up at Sharks now. Lavinia continues to make the big money at Oase.

For anyone who hates the new setup at Oase, simply move to Sharks, World or Mainhatten.

For me, I just go wherever has the best girls.

[QUOTE=AlfaGt;1486116]Hi I spent maybe 50 times I in the past years in the Oase and I think it will be my last visit. The new rule concerning the breakfast is not at all what I would like to consider a positive thing. I took my breakfast and 30 minutes latter, I just wanted to take a piece of bread and the waiter was very rude saying it is just once. The girls seems to have low business or are tired but there is no positive spirit at all so I will stopp going there and concentrate my money on the World.[/QUOTE]+1.

Was my favorite club for long time, but now is just under in the top 10. Most important for me are the girls and their service / attitude, the "old" girls still can be ok, but most new ones are similar to the girls in GT (so terrible in attitude and service, GT already fell out of the top 10 few years ago because of this). The lack of atmosphere and attitude of the new layout (barely no kino / outside room action anymore, the crazy food rules, etc, etc) has made sure most of the regular customers moved elsewhere (only optik fuckers like SZ still found it ok, but I am sure they will wake up also the next months.).

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1486456]Changes in setup, massive changes in girls. Many new girls, with potentially suspect performance. The old known girls are safer bets. Not everyone is happy including the girls. Amalia and her friend Bianca have shown up at Sharks now. Lavinia continues to make the big money at Oase.

For anyone who hates the new setup at Oase, simply move to Sharks, World or Mainhatten.

For me, I just go wherever has the best girls.[/QUOTE]

And for you probably good looks is considered "best" ?

Sharks is the new Oase. For me. I've been vsisiting Oase regularly. 100+ times. Not anymore. Deja-vu. Same thing as with Palace some years ago for slightly different reasons. Everybody should state their unhappiness about the new setup when leaving Oase.

HB

[QUOTE=Maxime;1486466]And for you probably good looks is considered "best" ?[/QUOTE]Not at all. Best is super looking girls with super GFE performance. Sweet girls with no issues. PSE does not interest me.

[QUOTE=Maxime;1486466]Most important for me are the girls and their service / attitude, … but most new ones are similar to the girls in GT (so terrible in attitude and service[/QUOTE]Hey Max,
You seem to have had a terrible year at Oase. Care to share a few more names that has disappointed you?

Personally, I still happen to have great sex in the kino (couldn't care less about a 'missing wall') , love Italian food and can afford an extra 5- 15E for freshly made food. Still, the major point for me too is the service standards of the girls. Contrary to you all 'new' girls have been decent to me this year (new to me that is). Last one was Isabella. Ro, who delivered all standard services with gusto (BBBJ / DATY / DFK) , no upselling (but with a dirty little smile quickly let me know that extras were available) , great enthusiasm/illusion with a little bit of PSE attitude. Kinda cute too. 50E / 30 mnts (including relaxing aftersex). Obviously, I will bring back a few hundred bucks more to her in the coming months.

So tell me, who are these terrible new service providers? Looking through the reports on this forum there are very few girls with bad reviews (maybe 10 out of 300 girls in attendance). Let me see: Angela, Amelia, Candy, Emma / Emily, Ingrid, Kiana, Michelle, Montana / Vanessa. But who else?

I challenge you (and everybody else) to provide the names (and a short note on what happened). Contrary to normal practice on this forum I have no problems accepting second-hand stories. Smoking out the bad weeds is the purpose and would be very helpful to those of us who are still visiting this club.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Shark16; 1486519]I challenge you (and everybody else) to provide the names (and a short note on what happened). Contrary to normal practice on this forum I have no problems accepting second-hand stories. Smoking out the bad weeds is the purpose and would be very helpful to those of us who are still visiting this club.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ultrahappy; 1455791]But, I take issue with your accusation that I have not shared info about my specific girls. In fact, I have specifically reviewed or made recommendations one way or the other regarding 30 specific girls (most at Oase but some at other clubs). Of these reviews, I noted 3 as definite "avoids" and gave 2 "low" ratings. Yes, my numbers aren't as high as yours, but (1) I don't live in Europe as you do, and as I mentioned before (2) I keep going back to my same favorites over and over again so I don't sample as many women as others might for the same amount of club time. Sure, I haven't reviewed every single girl I've been with, but many of my encounters were quite uninteresting to report on.

In addition to reports about girls, I have posted quite a few reviews about clubs and tons of information in response to forum questions. I have received plenty of PMs thanking me for my helpful contributions. I've had at least two of my posts nominated to the Reports of Distinction thread (not by me).

So, while I salute you for your fine contributions, I do take issue with your denigration of my contributions.[/QUOTE]Shark16,

Please follow Ultrahappy posts contributions on names of girls that provide good or bad list. His extensive review of the girls may be very helpfull to you and the intel on the girls are amazingly so reliable. Be sure to go through all his extensive post. Much information on girls and the services they provided can be obtained.

HB

This is sad news. As a long time customer of Oase (though have been there since May). Oase has been my favorite club and hhave had many great times there. What has gone wrong? I note numerous posts. Of dissatisfaction.

Is there any Public Transportation to Sharks?

S. Trato.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1486494]Sharks is the new Oase. For me. I've been vsisiting Oase regularly. 100+ times. Not anymore. Deja-vu. Same thing as with Palace some years ago for slightly different reasons. Everybody should state their unhappiness about the new setup when leaving Oase.

HB[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Strato; 1486594]HB

This is sad news. As a long time customer of Oase (though have been there since May). Oase has been my favorite club and hhave had many great times there. What has gone wrong? I note numerous posts. Of dissatisfaction.

Is there any Public Transportation to Sharks?

S. Trato.[/QUOTE]I think the demise of Oase is greatly exaggerated by some. It depends greatly on your style of operation. If you are into trying completely new girls regularly after a brief meeting, knowing little about them, then its getting risky, but I do not get the same consistent bad vibes I am getting from Palace girls.

If you have a gradually built up several long term favourites, and had good luck with new girls tried after long and careful consideration, like I did before, then could have a great time regularly. Unfortunately many of my very best favourites have left now. Doesn't mean I rule out Oase. Just happen to be very keen on two or 3 girls at Sharks now, one of which migrated from Oase. More girls that are exciting me to try at Sharks right now and I am not feeling the same level of risk to it. Of course many tried will be just mediocre. Not every girl can be a super dynamite experience.

I have described the best public transport options to Sharks in the Sharks thread. Please look back just a few pages.

The ratings of the clubs, for me, waxes and wanes over time, with the coming and going of particular very special girls. After that, the rest is somewhat immaterial to me. Others consider a club from very different view points.

I went to this club back in July, I think it must have been. They were working a lot on the club then and by the sounds of it they must be finished now.

I found this club disappointing even back then. The actual setup of the club was great. The massive outdoor area, spa room and mirrored bedrooms. Really great club. But the level of quality of the girls was really disappointing to me. I just sat there for I think somewhere around an hour and a half after arriving, just not seeing anything that appealing. I'm a tits man and couldn't see one particularly good set in there. And to top it off girls kept approaching me and propositioning me, which I didn't think happened at FKK clubs. Got to admit that I was really fucking rude and dismissive of most of them. Pretty much ignoring some of them. I just wasn't in the mood. Looking back on it I'm really regretful of acting like that as it was terrible form. Just really wasn't in the mood.

Note: No idea what any of the girls I sessioned with's names are.

Eventually I spotted a really hot blond with incredible naturals and took her to a room. Polish I think. Probably a D-cup. Beautiful face and body. Wasn't getting a particularly good vibe from her though she gave a fantastic BBBJ before I fucked her in mish. I completely blew it and came while we were still in mish. Very rare for me and was hating myself, especially because I wanted to watch those epic naturals bounce while she rode me. Yeah, totally fucked up but what can you do?

Took ages to find another girl who really appealed to me. A Romanian with dirty blond hair. Tallish and slim. Big naturals. Was wearing a bra and got to admit I was very disappointed when she took it off. Very saggy. Poor judgement from a usually pretty switched on tit man. I actually do remember this girl's name. It was Emily. I remember asking her afterwards if she liked Pink Floyd, and mentioning their song "See Emily Play". Had a pretty good session with her. She also gave a really great BBBJ. Her hair was all done up and she was worried about it getting messed up. Wasn't happy when I suggested mish to start, because of her hair, but didn't hesitate to lay back for the pounding. Fucked her in doggy and CG after that. Good session.

Took forever to find my third and final girl. I was just looking around like WTF am I going to do? I want one more girl but none of these girls are really doing it for me. Sat / wandered around for ages. I was sitting at a table on the deck above the spa when this smokin' hot little Romanian thing came dancing into the room. I was just like yeah, what a delightful little creature, and called her over. She was so cute. Short and petite but with fantastic curves. Beautiful natural C-Cup. Cute face with reddish brown hair. Nice brown all over tan. Had a nice little chat before taking her to a room. She tried to upsell me straight away. She was pretty adamant but after she finally accepted that she was only going to get $50 out of me she still gave a really great service. There was very good chemistry. Another great BBBJ (def 3 of the best BJ's of my life at that club. They must have to take lessons or something lolz). Pounded her in mish, doggy and CG, making good use of the mirrors. Noticed she was looking in the mirrors a lot too, and watching me. We had this sort of eye contact through the mirrors thing going on during doggy, which was cool. Also really good eye contact while she was blowing me.

I think just before I was about to come in CG she stopped and climbed off, tired out and giggly. So I threw her on the edge of the bed and fucked her ferociously until I came. She was a really cool, fun girl. So cute and sexy too. I love that body type. Drives me wild. One of my fondest memories from my trip to Europe, she is.

Good food there too. Pigged out heavily.

So I parked my van in the back street near the club. The street that runs behind it. Near some farms. Slept in it overnight and the next day I go to drive off and my battery's dead. Oh shit. Nothing I could do so I went back to the club to ask for help. They were pretty good to me and let me use their phone to call the van rental company in England. That didn't work out so they sent one of the security guys with me to try and jump start it. Didn't work so they let me use the phone again, still no resolution. So they put me onto this garage down the road in whatever town that is, and I rode my bike down there and they sent out a mechanic who got me back on the road. Saw some really hot girls at the club when I was at the reception too. Looked like probably a better line-up than the night before.

So in the end I managed to find 3 girls who were really to my liking, but it wasn't easy and took a lot of time, and other than those 3 there was nothing there that I was especially impressed by. Plenty of hot girls I'd really like to fuck, but nothing special.

Hi,

Can anyone here provide intel whether the red haired Katya is still in Oase and has she lost her weight?

Is Alexia with glassess still around?

Is Marie back in Oase?

Takk

[QUOTE=Amriptna111; 1486944]Hi,

Can anyone here provide intel whether the red haired Katya is still in Oase and has she lost her weight?

Is Alexia with glassess still around?

Is Marie back in Oase?

Takk[/QUOTE]I don't know Katya, therefore I am guessing she has not been around recently (answer 'Sissy style'). LOL.

I no see Alexia the glasses (answer 'Yakob style'). LOL.

Marie is still at Colosseum. She is wearing nerd glasses since a couple of weeks.

[QUOTE=Amriptna111; 1486944]Hi,

Can anyone here provide intel whether the red haired Katya is still in Oase and has she lost her weight?

Is Alexia with glassess still around?

Is Marie back in Oase?

Takk[/QUOTE]Marie is not back, Katia still there, alexia still there.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1486494]Sharks is the new Oase. For me. I've been vsisiting Oase regularly. 100+ times. Not anymore. Deja-vu. Same thing as with Palace some years ago for slightly different reasons. Everybody should state their unhappiness about the new setup when leaving Oase.

HB[/QUOTE]You are spot on. I have two more entry cards for Oase and then I am coming to Sharks too!

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1487011]I have two more entry cards for Oase and then I am coming to Sharks too![/QUOTE]If you enter the club using your entry card, does Mauro limit you to one soup? Or ask that you pay 5euro extra for the pizza? Just curious.

O

If you bought your "6for5"-cards when entry was still 65€ Mauro will make you pay 5€ upon entry. After that it's the same new rules as for everyone.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1487033]If you bought your "6for5"-cards when entry was still 65€ Mauro will make you pay 5€ upon entry. After that it's the same new rules as for everyone.

HB[/QUOTE]Well, so far I haven't been asked to pay any extra on the 4 cards I have got through. Must be my winning smile and charming way with the ladies at reception.

[QUOTE=Rupert Pupkin2;1486699]So in the end I managed to find 3 girls who were really to my liking, but it wasn't easy and took a lot of time, and other than those 3 there was nothing there that I was especially impressed by. Plenty of hot girls I'd really like to fuck, but nothing special.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a normal scenario to me. The number of "specials" is not so high at any club. You managed to find 3 good ones. Yes that takes time. Nothing surprising.

I was in oase last July and lineup did not seem as strong as when I was there previous December. Does anyone know what the current lineup is like compared to the summer just gone?i have read mention of new girls in the last three months. Also can you generally expect a busier club in December as opposed to the summer or does the outdoor area make it more or less the same, ie outdoors in the summer attracting customers too even though its holiday season.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1487106]I was in oase last July and lineup did not seem as strong as when I was there previous December. Does anyone know what the current lineup is like compared to the summer just gone?i have read mention of new girls in the last three months. Also can you generally expect a busier club in December as opposed to the summer or does the outdoor area make it more or less the same, ie outdoors in the summer attracting customers too even though its holiday season.[/QUOTE]There is something that I've figured out after some time. Romanians vacation during the summer to early fall. That means they will work during late fall to when spring ends. You figure out the rest.

[QUOTE=Ahasveros; 1486958]I don't know Katya, therefore I am guessing she has not been around recently (answer 'Sissy style'). LOL.

I no see Alexia the glasses (answer 'Yakob style'). LOL.

Marie is still at Colosseum. She is wearing nerd glasses since a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]Spot on with everything.

Syzgies forgot to mention Katya is still big. Not the slim Katya from Jun / July 2012. She put on weight after summer last year. Still nice girl that will chat you up even after your session.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1487139]Spot on with everything.

Syzgies forgot to mention Katya is still big. Not the slim Katya from Jun / July 2012. She put on weight after summer last year. Still nice girl that will chat you up even after your session.[/QUOTE]Thanks Cap, I could not remember Katya's weight chances but not really a gazelle for me. I have seen her and Alexia very recently.

Is Ambra, blonde tanned fake-titted bimbo, supposedly from Hungary or maybe Romania, still there?

Anybody saw her these past days?

Ambra is from Romania and she was seen at Oase recently.

HB

[QUOTE=Rupert Pupkin2;1486699]Took ages to find another girl who really appealed to me. A Romanian with dirty blond hair. Tallish and slim. Big naturals. Was wearing a bra and got to admit I was very disappointed when she took it off. Very saggy. Poor judgement from a usually pretty switched on tit man. I actually do remember this girl's name. It was Emily. I remember asking her afterwards if she liked Pink Floyd, and mentioning their song "See Emily Play".[/QUOTE]"Emily tries but misunderstands, ah ooh...."
I guess she did not know what Pink Floyd is :cool:

Big naturals in a bra are always a hit and miss. I have had both disappointing experiences and also great suprises when the bra goes off and perky firm big boobs bounce out. I like the lingerie days in the clubs, especially when you know the girls who have nice boobs. For me it just adds the excitement and feeling knowing that great pair will pop out when you'll remove the bra.

-Kepp

[QUOTE=Silikon; 1487261]Is Ambra, blonde tanned fake-titted bimbo, supposedly from Hungary or maybe Romania, still there?

Anybody saw her these past days?[/QUOTE]I saw Ambra or Rafaella these past days at Oase. She is as tanned and tatooed and as silicon breasted as before.

[QUOTE=Silikon; 1487261]Is Ambra, blonde tanned fake-titted bimbo, supposedly from Hungary or maybe Romania, still there?

Anybody saw her these past days?[/QUOTE]Ambra is indeed still working at FKK Oase.

Enjoy

You guys are having bad times at Oase? I was just there a few months ago. I had a great time!

Now. To be certain. I didn't really like the KINO setup that much. But everything else was workable for me.

Girls? Whoa. Anka (Ro). I'd marry her! /Louisa / Sabrina (Czech) /Irina (Ro) /Maria. Jessica (Ro) /Anastasia (Ro) /. I even got fucked real good by Lucia and Angelina. Angelina is hot but a bit of a witch if you ask me.

I love these girls! Last time I was there there were even more that interested me but I didn't have the time to fuck 'them.

Sharks? I was told it was a warehouse atmosphere. Not too good. Maybe it's changed, I don't know. Maybe I'll stop by one day for my next visit.

But until I have a bad experience at OASE. Oase will continue to be my primary stop. I love Oase!

[QUOTE=Arctic; 1487554]You guys are having bad times at Oase? I was just there a few months ago. I had a great time!

![/QUOTE]A few months ago? A lot of changes since then. As recently as June and July Oase was at its peak for me. Right now it's hard to tell as several favourites have gone and not sure which new girls will be good.

I am much more fussy though. Lucia not an option. :eek:

[QUOTE=Arctic; 1487554]Girls? Whoa. Anka (Ro). I'd marry her! /Louisa / Sabrina (Czech) /Irina (Ro) /Maria. Jessica (Ro) /Anastasia (Ro). I even got fucked real good by Lucia and Angelina. Angelina is hot but a bit of a witch if you ask me.

T.

But until I have a bad experience at OASE. Oase will continue to be my primary stop. I love Oase![/QUOTE]I thank you for all your reports. It is good and informative. But I think everyone needs to know different strokes for different folks LOL.

A German frequent fkk goer would have a high standard of service requirements from the girls vs an American tourist for instance same goes with the girls attractiveness.

I for instance would avoid Lucia even if the sex is for free. Irina I would highly recommend and Anca (I only know the ever talkative Anca) but yes she was a cutie that would be worth the 100 euro session. Louisa is also good for me though her ass is on the meaty side.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1487676]I am much more fussy though. Lucia not an option. :eek:[/QUOTE]I tend to find Syzgies approved gazelles very good choices in terms of looks and services (maybe it is because we have similiar taste in terms of looks) but Syzgies has higher service requirements.

Attach is syzgies approval stamp for consideration.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1487722]I tend to find Syzgies approved gazelles very good choices in terms of looks and services (maybe it is because we have similiar taste in terms of looks) but Syzgies has higher service requirements.

Attach is syzgies approval stamp for consideration.[/QUOTE]Really? Are you just stirring? Others accuse me of just taking Optifiks without requirement for top service.

However you are right. For me Marie was great Optifik but I got bored with the lack of GFE. She did have awfully nice "gap" though.

I know it's mostly illusion but I am sure that some girls are performing significantly more GFE with me than what others report and some girls just love to perform for everyone.

Well was in FRA last week and wanted to check first hand the changes which took place at Oase. So there you go: 70 euros entrance fee, a raise of 5 euros. No more free all you can eat buffet, instead at the entrance you are given a wristband carrying a 10 euro value in order to buy from their new restaurant. The funny thing, is that only the Pizzas cost 10 euros, anything else is slightly more and of course once you use that 10 euro credit you have to pay in order to eat again if you wish. Non alcoholic drinks are free.

Now let's talk about the GG quality, well as it is almost the case all over europe these days, almost 90% of the gals were from Rumania, gone are all those Polish, German, Croatian and Ukranian girls of yesteryears. The Service sucks, these new gals are sharks, they seldom offer you good sex for 50 euros and most of them are openly telling you that a good time can be had starting from 100 euros and up. I went with a gal claiming to be Turkish, yeah right, to finally find out that she was also from Ru. Fiden was her name, nice face, gorgeous eyes and for 100 euro I fucked the living daylight out of her, she is one of the few nice gals left in there. The oldies, Steffi and Verona were also there but they look a little bit used up tese, so I passed. I need to find a new spot as the service at Oase as well as Palace have drastically changed.

Ended up the trip with a vist to FRA's redlight district, see these gals are really strange, here I was giving one 50 euros so she could suck me bareback and the next thing I know, she was rubbing her pussy against my cock and hey stupid me, I just put it in there and came inside her, I know I know I am nuts, had never done it before with a working gal, but she was cute and after the deed was done, she goes: oh don't worry I take pills so I am not going to be pregnant. She was located at Elbstrasse.

Great Report Sizeman, it's intersting to hear the ones that has attended the clubs long ago and their reactions to the recent changes. I also thought your experience at the RLD was pretty interesting. I've had similar experiences with girls having me rub my cock, but never thought about trying AO with them.

I used to go to the room alot with Fidan when I was a newbie at Oase. At times she would hang out with me without pressuring me to go to the room. I think it was good act, but she made it seam like she enjoying doing me in the room. lol. I got bored of her, and it was awkward everytime I see her at the club, and there were other girls that got awkward after I stopped going to the room with them. At the time, she didn't seam like an upseller, I guess she has changed.

Would all agree that out of the big hessen clubs oase consistenly has the best early week lineup mon / tue / wed? Thanks.

Romania = Ro. Russia = Ru. I suppose Fidan didn't shark you and you fucked her for 60min? She's wuite popular on Germsn boards, she does have a lot of regular guests and is not known for upsell or sharking. And she actually is half Turkish. And has a lot of Turkish guests.

HB

As HB indicated: It is not clear from your report what exactly were the session parameters with Fidan: Did you stay with her a full hour or only 30mins? 100e would normally indicate a full hour, right?

Thanks again for your report. Thanks for the additional clarification.

O

[QUOTE=Ortos; 1488884]As HB indicated: It is not clear from your report what exactly were the session parameters with Fidan: Did you stay with her a full hour or only 30mins? 100e would normally indicate a full hour, right?

Thanks again for your report. Thanks for the additional clarification.

O[/QUOTE]Ok, Fiden is from Turkey as she claims, but once I insisted, she recognized that she was in fact from Tatarstan and had grown up in RO not RU as I said, sorry about the confusion. She is extremly kind and friendly and did not UPSELL, she gave a great service. 69, Deep DFK and natural BJ, so I gave her 100 euros for approx. 40 minutes since she really deserved it, she did not ask for it I repeat.

Honestly you guys think that when you give these gals 50 euros they will stay 30 full minutes with you? I really do not think so. These new breed of RO gals are sharks, they openly tell you that 100 euro is what they seek and for a mere 50 you will only get the very basic stuff. Quiet a change from 3-4 years ago when all these hot gals wouldn't even ask you for extra in order to give you DFK. Go figure. Verona was ans still is the greatest example of a fabulous service so is Steffi who now goes by the name Olga.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1488879]Romania = Ro. Russia = Ru.[/QUOTE]Not exactly as Romania can also referred to as Rumania, and if you read his report, he call them Rumanians which should imply Ru meaning Rumania. Rus is clearly Russia. Given his premise and explicit mention of 100e with Fidan, it sounds like an upsell. There seams to be contradicting information about Fidan's Nationality. How do we know she is indeed half Turkish?

[QUOTE=Sizeman1;1488744]The Service sucks, these new gals are sharks, they seldom offer you good sex for 50 euros and most of them are openly telling you that a good time can be had starting from 100 euros and up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1488940]Not exactly as Romania can also referred to as Rumania,[/QUOTE]It's R[b]O[/b]mania. That's why it is "Ro" or ". Ro". And it is R[b]U[/b]ssia. That's why it is "Ru" or ". Ru". No need to confuse people by writing Rumania. Even in the German boards Romanian girls are described as from "Ro" although Romania in German is R[b]U[/b]mänien.

Fidan does speak Turkish and Romanian, both without any accent. That's what some Romanian girls and a Turkish guy told me. Even if she's not half Turkish. Who cares if her service is good?

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1488963]It's R[b]O[/b]mania. That's why it is "Ro" or ". Ro". And it is R[b]U[/b]ssia. That's why it is "Ru" or ". Ru". No need to confuse people by writing Rumania. Even in the German boards Romanian girls are described as from "Ro" although Romania in German is R[b]U[/b]mänien.

Fidan does speak Turkish and Romanian, both without any accent. That's what some Romanian girls and a Turkish guy told me. Even if she's not half Turkish. Who cares if her service is good?

HB[/QUOTE]Obviously, but he wasn't wrong, there is no rule saying Ro is Rumania."English uses both forms, Rumanian and Romanian, to denote the Romance-speaking population in the South-Eastern Europe north of the Danube, which was traditionally referred as Vlachs (or Wallachians). Both forms were adopted by the mid 19th century when the principalities of Wallachia and Moldova were unified to form a new state, Rumania or Romania. The forms Rumania and Rumanian were prevailing till the second half of the 20th century, when the forms with "o" gradually became more popular."

I don't see the need for the correction given all the info needed to know which country he is referring is in the report. Some logic and it is there.

You said she is half Turkish(speaking Turkish without accent doesn't make her Turkish and that's what you heard of course), I don't know where you are reading that her stating to be Turkish is a dealbreaker.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1488940]Not exactly as Romania can also referred to as Rumania, and if you read his report, he call them Rumanians which should imply Ru meaning Rumania. Rus is clearly Russia. Given his premise and explicit mention of 100e with Fidan, it sounds like an upsell. There seams to be contradicting information about Fidan's Nationality. How do we know she is indeed half Turkish?[/QUOTE]The correct spelling (in English) is "Romania". The use of the spelling "Rumania" is archaic and is no longer correctly used. This can be confirmed by any publication of worth and can also be easily confirmed by using any of the online encyclopedias.

Quote from Wikipedia: [i]"Romania (I / ro&650; &712; me&618; ni&601; /roh-MAY-nee-&601; ; [b]dated spellings[/b] Roumania[8] and Rumania; [9][10] Romanian: România [rom&616; &712; ni. A] (listen) is a country located at the intersection of Central and Southeastern Europe, bordering on the Black Sea. [11] Romania shares a border with Hungary and Serbia to the west, Ukraine and Moldova to the northeast and east, and Bulgaria to the south."[/i]

With regard to the abbreviated names of both Romania and Russia. ISO 3166 is a standard published by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). It defines codes for the names of countries, dependent territories, special areas of geographical interest, and their principal subdivisions (e. G, provinces or states). The official code for Romania is RO and the official code for Russia is RU. This can also be easily checked online.

With regard to whether or not Fidan is half Turkish, I would have to say that if Hessen Bub confirms that she is half Turkish, IMO there is a very good chance that she is indeed half Turkish. No need for Wikipedia in this case. LOL.

CD

Actually not sure what this discussion has to do with FKK Oase. Perhaps best to get back to our main topic and the lovely ladies (many of whom are Romanian) who work there!

CD

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1488966]Obviously, but he wasn't wrong, there is no rule saying Ro is Rumania.[/QUOTE]Whatever. It would just be easier if everybody was clear to use Ro for Romania and Ru for Russia. Why confuse users with archaic spelling?

Quote from [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania[/url] :

[quote]dated spellings Roumania and Rumania[/quote]HB

[QUOTE=Sizeman1;1488744]Ended up the trip with a vist to FRA's redlight district, see these gals are really strange, here I was giving one 50 euros so she could suck me bareback and the next thing I know, she was rubbing her pussy against my cock and hey stupid me, I just put it in there and came inside her, I know I know I am nuts, had never done it before with a working gal, but she was cute and after the deed was done, she goes: oh don't worry I take pills so I am not going to be pregnant. She was located at Elbstrasse.[/QUOTE]
Really! Pregnacy is not the problem. It's the least you should ever care about. The big question is what if she intentionally passed whatever STD she may have on to someone else? Would that be a criminal act if she knew she has STD and purposely tricked someone into bareback? If she did that to you, she probably has done that to someone else. That's a much bigger concern. I would not brush it off lightly.

[QUOTE=Investor;1488982]Really! Pregnacy is not the problem. It's the least you should ever care about. The big question is what if she intentionally passes whatever STD she may have on to someone else? Would that be a criminal act if she knows she has STD and purposely tricks someone into bareback? If she did that to you, she probably has done that to someone else. That's a much bigger concern. I would not brush it off lightly.[/QUOTE]Who is at fault here? If he does get STDs, it was his decision. Nowhere does it say she told him to put it in there BB. I've had girls rub my thing on their puss, but I don't believe their intentions was to do BB. There was one that probably would have, but It's not something I would take a gamble on. It was not in AO clubs(would never go to one, risks are just too high), it was actually in Oase, and other clubs. I also believe some of these girls can be pretty naive, they haven't been educated enough to know of the consequences of their actions unless told. The most restrictive girls(some are unnecessary) I've met were Germans, and I've been told by Romanian girls that some Romanians do more because they are from the country(rural areas) and don't know better. Could be BS to justify their low services.

[QUOTE=Sizeman1;1488744]I just put it in there and came inside her[/QUOTE]

ISO-3166
RO ROMANIA
RU RUSSIAN FEDERATION

A lot of people's education on STDs are just what they learn thru locker room gossip. You are responsible for your own actions. No one forced you to AO.

[QUOTE=Trans Atlantic; 1488998]ISO-3166.

RO ROMANIA.

RU RUSSIAN FEDERATION.
[/QUOTE]I guess the I stands for International and S stands for SexGuide. LOL. My point: He said Rumania, which isn't incorrect. RU was referring to Rumania or Romania as is commonly now called in the context of his report. ISO is based on English country name. No need to bring ISO into this, it's not like the reports here has to adhere to standards. lol. Who cares if Fidan is from Turkey, I certainly don't as HB was concerned with it as he investigated it. Still not certain of her origin though.

Had a mate in London who started bareback with a few Rom WG, of course. Don't know how many he went with but last mont STC testing he was confirmed HIV positive.

The percentage of getting HIV from a single intercourse session without condom is small but the possibility is there. My advice is get tested as early as you can. A responsible WG or those who value their health would have freaked out you did that and if she is relax about it then I take it health is not really a priority to her but fast money is. Just an advice.

I couldn't care less if Fidan is from Turkey, Romania, Rumania, Russia, Rossia or Mars. As long as her service is good.

HB

Guys, who cares about RO or RU, okay Hessen Bob from now on, I shall use RO and RU for Russian. If you guys read my reply post, you can see that I explained Fiden's origins as she said it herself: Tatar but grew up in Romania. This was even confirmed to me by couple of Oase gals whom I trust. Either way Fiden is a great girl, she really gives you 200% GFE and the 100euros I gave her were totally deserved, and once again, no she did not upsell.

Now regarding my bareback stupidity, I under no circumstances accuse that gal from forcing me to fuck her bareback, I am the sole responsible for my actions and this was the first time in 20 years of mongering that I did it. So please no lecturing okay? And I am old enough to decide by myself rather than learn from locker room gossip, so please spare me your sneaky comments.

Now the Turkish cab drivers outside the club, once told of the existence of a Turkish gal at Oase reacted angrily by replying that this particular girl is under no circumstances Turkish but a Romanian pretending to be Turkish. I am like yeah right like you guys have no working girls in Turkey? Same things was said about a Persian / Iranian gal I used to fuck some years back, Shirin, whom many Persian guys would gladly bang at Oase but would later deny her being Persian. By the way that Shirin loved to get sodomized, alas she has left for France was I told by yes. Another cab driver who happened to be Persian.

Go figure.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1489018]I couldn't care less if Fidan is from Turkey, Romania, Rumania, Russia, Rossia or Mars. As long as her service is good.

HB[/QUOTE]LOL. Agree. Alot of my repeats at Oase were Romanians, which I cannot avoid at Oase given the high percentage. I've run into some striking Romanians in my ventures although a small percentage given their prevelance. At the NRW, you would not believe some of the Romanians I've run into there. There are more of Romanians I like in the NRW. Like Antonia Mainhattan, there are the ones stands out from the pack in the way they look. Fidan's eyes look a bit Asian, and that made her stand out for me.

She is one half turkish and one half tatar who are an ethnic group in modern day russia a mixture of turks mongols and manchus. That is definite. Anyway again I don't care where a girl is from if I LIKE her. However the spread of nationalities on display is amazing coming from the uk and I DO find that very interesting and like to talk to the girls regarding their background.

Syzy, newcomer here, please bear with me, I see you use the expression gazelles, can you please explain what you mean?

I am most interested in relatively thin or at most good shape, not too tall (5'6" or less) and natural, somewhat smallish in fact but firm breasts. Pretty face is most important.

I do not care as much about extras, as about the physical attributes above.

Is Oase the best club, or is it Sharks? Or others. In Frankfurt in late November.

Also, how do the clubs and the girls at these clubs treat non Caucasian customers?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1487888]Really? Are you just stirring? Others accuse me of just taking Optifiks without requirement for top service.

However you are right. For me Marie was great Optifik but I got bored with the lack of GFE. She did have awfully nice "gap" though.

I know it's mostly illusion but I am sure that some girls are performing significantly more GFE with me than what others report and some girls just love to perform for everyone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1489167]Is Oase the best club, or is it Sharks? Or others. In Frankfurt in late November.

Also, how do the clubs and the girls at these clubs treat non Caucasian customers?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Late November is one of the worst time to visit Oase or Sharks.

Are you Indian? If yes I suggest you go to Palace as you will get a good deal there. Romanian wg have bias to south Asian. One of the trick Romanian wg will pull on south Asian customer is giving them covered blowjob once in the room and before that they will cover your pubic hair by placing tons of tissue paper on it.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1489167]Syzy, newcomer here, please bear with me, I see you use the expression gazelles, can you please explain what you mean?

I am most interested in relatively thin or at most good shape, not too tall (5'6" or less) and natural, somewhat smallish in fact but firm breasts. Pretty face is most important.

I do not care as much about extras, as about the physical attributes above.

Is Oase the best club, or is it Sharks? Or others. In Frankfurt in late November.

Also, how do the clubs and the girls at these clubs treat non Caucasian customers?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Sure gazelles are the slim ones like your spec.

There are a lot of girls with great bodies at Oase, World and Sharks. Not so many have the face to go with it. I can't say for sure which club will be best as girls keep changing. World may be the most reliable with least Sharks. Oase is reported to have not many girls happy with a 50 any more.

Non Caucasian is a bit vague. You best be more specific like Indian, black American, Chinese etc. Then someone of similar ethnicity can answer.

Girls do not treat every guy the same even when Caucasians. It depends if the girl likes you. I was knocked back by a black girl yesterday. I don't know the reason but don't assume it's racial.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1489167]Is Oase the best club, or is it Sharks? Or others. In Frankfurt in late November.[/QUOTE]Nr. 1 club is Sharks, for me already since 2012. Large choice on girls in average 60/70 girls. Some real stunnes, also not all the girls from romania or bulgaria, always girls from germany, africa sometimes caribik and always from Poland und Russia and from their former satellite states.

Service level of the girls quite good. No upselling for DFK or ball licking. Only a few low level provider.

Gerneral atmosthere very good, everything clean, friendly service staff, nice musik most of the time, very good wellness area and food is ok.

Nr. 2 club is Mainhattan for me since sommer 2013. Good choice on girls in average 50 girls. Also some real stunners. Porportion of romanish girl quite high but also some Caribik, Africa, germans and other east european countries.

Service level in general quite good. Maybe larger spread some top class performer but also some below average performer. Sometimes for newbies and touris a try for upselling DFK or ball licking as extra but only a few girls try this. So make before room clear what you want and get.

General atmosphere very good, good music, very good wellness facilities. Friendly service staff and the best food around the clock.

Nr. 3 World. Still a very good club. Service level still quite good, no upselling. But I miss there more and more the real beautiful girls. Rest everything good: friendly staff, good music and food, good wellness facilities.

Nr. 4 Oase. Used to be many years my number 1 club, lost this position already last year on Sharks. And the downhill trend in 2013 is going on very fast. Still the most girls in the area but only quantity less quality except some long time staying regular girls.

Main asset of oase were always the girls the rest like food and cleanness or friedliness. I think at oase they never heard this word. Was always lowest level.

But main problem behaviour of girls. Lots of upselling and some tries for rip off clients. Many low service provider and also there arn't so many stunners and if than servicle level very questionable.

Nr. 5 Palace Only there one or two times a year to confirm my opinion. Difficult to find a girl giving good service for 50 euro. Lots of upselling and tries to rip off clients. Also many very arrogant girls. Room yes or no and no more talk. System is clear you should not ask questions about service.

I completly avoid this place except one or twotimes every year just for curiosity.

[QUOTE=Trans Atlantic; 1488998]ISO-3166. RO ROMANIA. RU RUSSIAN FEDERATION[/QUOTE]Rather than bothering about ISO 3166, Oase and Palace should be made to undergo ISO 9001 certification (quality assurance) to help us all!

Craiova, your report seems to have thrown me in bit of a quandary now. Oase is my favorite FKK and have been there every year since 2008 to 2011. I haven't been there since the new interior got commissioned and was looking forward to seeing it, however with Sharks and Mainhattan now in the picture, and with falling Oase standards as mentioned by few other members here, I'm thinking of whether I should go to Oase and shatter the good memories that I have had of this place.

I plan to be in Frankfurt for 2 days out of which one day will be work related meetings and the other day is reserved for FKK. So now have to think, Oase or Sharks?

Krazydude it wasn't my intention to make you quandary. Of course you still can find nice beautiful girls with very good service at Oase. And in almost every country in the world guys would be happy having a club like actual Oase in the neighbourhood. But we lucky guys in this area have a lot of options. Not mentioned in the big 5 list there are at least 5 more smaller clubs were we find very good service provider. Sometimes better than in the big 5 because girls aren't spoilt by tourists.

So Oase offers still some good girls but the risk to get low level service provider is now higher than previous years. And as far as I know the main new building is still under construction. When it's open of course I'm also curious and will have a look. Open from the new facilities is only the restaurant and the renewed men's and girls locker room.

But I only gave my personal opinion about the actual situation about the Frankfurt big 5 FKK clubs. Anyway what you decide I wish you a nice day in the club.

Hi all,

I am a newbie to FKK's and going to be in Frankfurt area during November (Arriving 26th and leaving 27th).

I am being quite optimistic and wanting to visit 2 FKK's. I initially wanted to go to Palace but after reading all the reports of upselling and girls giving poor service for 50e I'm thinking I might go to Oase on the 26th and Sharks on the 27th.

I read that there was a girl at Oase (Aris-Rom). Last posts of her said she might be going to palace but have not heard anything since then.

Could any regulars please tell me if she is still at oase? If so whether you think she will be there on the dates I have mentioned? Should I call the club and ask them?

I would massively appreciate this.

Also what do you think of my intentions to trial oase day 1 and sharks day 2? Should I replace any for palace or stick to the plan?

Any comments would be much appreciated.

Cheers!

Hello,

This is my 2nd time in frankfurt, I will be there briefly for about 12 hours halt between my flights on 29th evening from 22h to 12h. I am just thinking of two alternatives (escort in hotel for few hours+FKK) or both if time permits. I will finish with the escort by 24 hrs midnight. So, the main issue for me is that I need to find a hotel in the center of ffm for the escort and then I should quickly dispatch myself to the nearest FKK preferbly Oase.

Plesase suggest possible alternatives for hotels and FKK club possibilities.

I'm looking for some escort friendly hotels in Frankfurt main area, please provide some pointers which are moderately inexpensive. Also, since this is my first trial with escort, I would like to ask from exp. Mongers, that what is the normaly way of bringing escorts, is it like you inform them your hotel address and room no. So they can come to your room directly OR should we go down to pick them up from the reception area (which not desirable)?

I'm going to be there tomorrow 29th. Please responsd.

Thanks in advance.

Craiova,

Interesting ranking and I almost agree. For me, Nr1 World and Sharks, Nr3 Mainhattan, Nr4 Oase, Nr100 Palace LOL.

For me you can avoid to loose time with escorts in Frankfurt and directly go on fkk where you can find as good girls and services as escorts for less money. Oasa or Shark are good choices.

[QUOTE=ScandicPunter; 1489487]Hello,

This is my 2nd time in frankfurt, I will be there briefly for about 12 hours halt between my flights on 29th evening from 22h to 12h. I am just thinking of two alternatives (escort in hotel for few hours+FKK) or both if time permits. I will finish with the escort by 24 hrs midnight. So, the main issue for me is that I need to find a hotel in the center of ffm for the escort and then I should quickly dispatch myself to the nearest FKK preferbly Oase.

Plesase suggest possible alternatives for hotels and FKK club possibilities.

I'm looking for some escort friendly hotels in Frankfurt main area, please provide some pointers which are moderately inexpensive. Also, since this is my first trial with escort, I would like to ask from exp. Mongers, that what is the normaly way of bringing escorts, is it like you inform them your hotel address and room no. So they can come to your room directly OR should we go down to pick them up from the reception area (which not desirable)?

I'm going to be there tomorrow 29th. Please responsd.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

Rank is really depend of your experiences on these clubs!

A week ago I was in Palace, Oasa and Shark.

I agree for Palace, it's last place of top list. Too much arrogant girls and silicon boobs.

But for Oasa I will not be so strict and will place that fkk still on the first place.

I like Oasa crowded on Saturday from 5. 6 pm, the choice of girls is then incredible and you really feel like in paradise of girls, about 100 of them. Of course a good choice has to be made. Then it's much better if you already know girls.

On second place I will put Shark, on 3rd place World, on 4th place Manhattain where I didn't have so good experience (small place with small choice) and Palace at the end.

[QUOTE=SharkEater; 1489511]Craiova,

Interesting ranking and I almost agree. For me, Nr1 World and Sharks, Nr3 Mainhattan, Nr4 Oase, Nr100 Palace LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SharkEater; 1489511]Craiova,

Interesting ranking and I almost agree. For me, Nr1 World and Sharks, Nr3 Mainhattan, Nr4 Oase, Nr100 Palace LOL.[/QUOTE]I think its very feasible for different guys to give different rankings, as we each have slightly different criteria for ranking the clubs. I think every club has quite a few girls to many that are poor for service, but this is not really an important factor for me as the known poor girls can be ignored. Its the top 5 to 10% of the girls that matters to me.

My important criteria (and for others will be different) :

1. How many "must do" girls are at the club that I am looking forward to even before I get there?

2. How many girls do I typically want to try?

3. What percentage of sessions were really enjoyable and did not regret?

4. Are the rooms having good air supply?

So far Sharks has one "must do" girl Roxanna and recently added Roxy (a regular). Maria is a probable. I like the rooms with windows.

World still has two or 3 "must dos" and several highly probable so is still slightly ahead. Rooms not as good overall, as hard to get the good rooms.

Oase still has Lavinia as the "must do" and a few probables (if present) , so it has dropped slightly below the other two, especially since regular girl Amalia is now Roxy at Sharks. I still have a lot of irregular or optional regulars at Oase. Rooms are variable. Prefer rooms with good air flow.

The food situation doesn't matter. The entry price on Sunday at Sharks is attractive. World costs me the most in overheads to get there and back (trains / taxis).

For other who don't rely on regulars, but always wanting to try new girls, I would expect World still to be the top club with least girls performing badly. Sharks would be O.K. and Oase maybe dropping away. I can't put Mainhatten on the list as have not tried it yet.

Palace is a standout for bottom place despite having good food. I don't have regulars there any more, the girls I miss don't seem to turn up when I am there, and I struggle to find any girls I really want to fuck or to repeat. Too much silicone, too much flab, too much upsell, and too much arrogance. The food doesn't really count for me.

The customer profile has to be a significant contributor to the behaviour of the girls. If the set of customers is allowing them to get away with upsell and poor service, then the bad girls are encouraged. Some girls with pretty face make money despite crap service. In World, they don't get enough business if they act like this.

[QUOTE=Craiova; 1489254]Nr. 1 club is Sharks.

Nr. 2 club is Mainhattan

Nr. 3 World.

Nr. 4 Oase. Used to be many years my number 1 club, lost this position already last year on Sharks. And the downhill trend in 2013 is going on very fast. Still the most girls in the area but only quantity less quality except some long time staying regular girls.

Nr. 5 Palace[/QUOTE]In the Frankfurt area, I tend to agree with you with Sharks at Nr 1. World / Oase come next, and Palace last. Mainhattan I don't know yet.

Some service clubs in NRW (like Panthera, Neby, Luder Lounge, Babylon, etc) are much higher on the list now, since the major drop in attitude of the Oase girls last year, where Oase dropped from Nr 1 to Nr 4 to Nr 8-9 on my list now!

Hi,

I'm an avid reader of these forums but not much of a poster.

I've only been to maidhattan and oase and not experienced any other clubs.

I will be visiting in early January 2-5 and wanted to ask of people's experience during these times? Which club will be the best to visit? I've never been to sharks but can see its a popular club, although there are not many posts there!

I'm planning on visiting maidhattan thu 2 Jan, and oase / sharks on fri / sat. Would this be a good choice?

[QUOTE=Simon2012; 1489973]Hi, I'm an avid reader of these forums but not much of a poster.

I've only been to maidhattan and oase and not experienced any other clubs.

I will be visiting in early January 2-5 and wanted to ask of people's experience during these times? Which club will be the best to visit? I've never been to sharks but can see its a popular club, although there are not many posts there!

I'm planning on visiting maidhattan thu 2 jan, and oase / sharks on fri / sat. Would this be a good choice?[/QUOTE]Just because a thread has many post doesn't mean it's the best club to attend at any given moment. I like the NRW clubs right now, but they have low post count here, but in Dutch boards it's tops. Of course the big clubs have higher post count statistically, but that doesn't mean it is the best club. The thread can have punters that repeat alot with girls in select clubs, and therefore, they post many reports on those threads, and other reasons. Also got to consider that there are much less punters here that live in close proximity to FKKs or Saunaclubs, and most likely their first club experience would be FRA or ART since it's very accessible and having good number of girls. For example, Palace is a tourist club, alot of tourists thend to go there. The popularity of clubs can change at anytime. For example, one club may at a given time have the girls most punters want, but then it could be on a slump. I think the best thing to do is go and see if you like the girls at the clubs since not every man has the same flavor of girls. For example, Sharks may have lower post count right now, but it seams to be quite popular among the punters here as of this moment. Oase has been my first club experience, and have had some good times there, but since I've been there so many time, the line-up doesn't do it for me any more, so I had to move on, and I've been taking trips to the NRW and been pretty happy. If you are new, Oase isn't a bad club, for punters that has been going there and do not like to repeat with girls like me, it may not be the best club at this moment, but then again you can have a sudden influx of nice girls show up at Oase. I definitely recommend trying out the other clubs in the FRA and NRW area.

[QUOTE=Simon2012; 1489973]Hi, I'm an avid reader of these forums but not much of a poster.

I've only been to maidhattan and oase and not experienced any other clubs.

I will be visiting in early January 2-5 and wanted to ask of people's experience during these times? Which club will be the best to visit? I've never been to sharks but can see its a popular club, although there are not many posts there!

I'm planning on visiting maidhattan thu 2 jan, and oase / sharks on fri / sat. Would this be a good choice?[/QUOTE]Although Sharks has relatively few posts on this forum, the German forum has over 7000 posts on Sharks which is quite a lot for the time it has been open, fast catching up to World and more than 50% of the Oase posts.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1489982]Although Sharks has relatively few posts on this forum, the German forum has over 7000 posts on Sharks which is quite a lot for the time it has been open, fast catching up to World and more than 50% of the Oase posts.[/QUOTE]I will definitely try out sharks as it's been recommend here. Ill report on that soon after my visit.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1489978]Just because a thread has many post doesn't mean it's the best club to attend at any given moment. I like the NRW clubs right now, but they have low post count here, but in Dutch boards it's tops. Of course the big clubs have higher post count statistically, but that doesn't mean it is the best club. The thread can have punters that repeat alot with girls in select clubs, and therefore, they post many reports on those threads, and other reasons. Also got to consider that there are much less punters here that live in close proximity to FKKs or Saunaclubs, and most likely their first club experience would be FRA or ART since it's very accessible and having good number of girls. For example, Palace is a tourist club, alot of tourists thend to go there. The popularity of clubs can change at anytime. For example, one club may at a given time have the girls most punters want, but then it could be on a slump. I think the best thing to do is go and see if you like the girls at the clubs since not every man has the same flavor of girls. For example, Sharks may have lower post count right now, but it seams to be quite popular among the punters here as of this moment. Oase has been my first club experience, and have had some good times there, but since I've been there so many time, the line-up doesn't do it for me any more, so I had to move on, and I've been taking trips to the NRW and been pretty happy. If you are new, Oase isn't a bad club, for punters that has been going there and do not like to repeat with girls like me, it may not be the best club at this moment, but then again you can have a sudden influx of nice girls show up at Oase. I definitely recommend trying out the other clubs in the FRA and NRW area.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your informative information.

As I'm in Frankfurt I'm only going to stay in that vicinity, palace is a no no, will be going to Manhattan, sharks and Oase.

A good variety I think!

I will be in frankfurt from 9/12 to 13/12 and will be doing 2 lots of 12 hour club visits on the mon and wed. I have never had a bad time time at oase and was there in July of this year last. The only other option would be a sharks visit but even though the good reviews I still think oase would have the strongest lineup early week mon-wed. Can someone confirm if I'm right or wrong? Finally what exactly is all the buzz about with sharks can't figure it out. Many thanks. one last post would early on in december ie the two dates above mean the lineup is still largely unaffected due to xmas. also e.european girls i hear celebrate orthadox xmas in january.

I know Oase has the largest number of girls (in terms of quantity) than other Hessen FKK clubs.

But how's the situation on slow days like Monday-Wednesday?

I mean, does Oase still have the largest number of girls than other Hessen FKK clubs (e. G, Sharks, World, and Mainhattan. No Palace because I've decide to skip Palace) even on slow days?

I may visit Oase on Monday or Wednesday, and stay there from 4pm to 10pm.

How many girls will probably show up during Monday and Wednesday from 4pm to 10pm?

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler; 1490216]I know Oase has the largest number of girls (in terms of quantity) than other Hessen FKK clubs.

But how's the situation on slow days like Monday-Wednesday?

I mean, does Oase still have the largest number of girls than other Hessen FKK clubs (e. G, Sharks, World, and Mainhattan. No Palace because I've decide to skip Palace) even on slow days?

I may visit Oase on Monday or Wednesday, and stay there from 4pm to 10pm.

How many girls will probably show up during Monday and Wednesday from 4pm to 10pm?[/QUOTE]Things change from week to week, but a very rough estimate:

Monday: 50- 60.
Tuesday- Wednesday: 60- 80.
Thursday: 70- 90.
Friday- Saturday: 80- 110.
Sunday: 60- 80.

During holiday season figures may be even lower. During the biggest exhibitions / fairs figures may be higher (100- 150).

Figures reflect my best estimate for peak times in the evenings. Daytime and late night: 50% of the above (but not everybody is ready to go at 10am, mind you).

Thanks Shark16.

Very informative.

Thanks Shark16, very helpful.

One silly question. It seems pretty much everyone is comfortable getting BBBJ at these clubs. What is the risk of contacting an std? Obviously, everyone has their own level of risk tolerance but is the risk fairly high, modest, etc.

The only time I visited places like this, I received a covered BJ. Perhaps I am a hypochondriac, but even the covered BJ was a bit scary.

Also, has anyone contacted herpes due to dfk at these clubs?

Pardon my limited understanding of health issues.

[QUOTE=Shark16; 1490346]Things change from week to week, but a very rough estimate:

Monday: 50- 60.

Tuesday- Wednesday: 60- 80.

Thursday: 70- 90.

Friday- Saturday: 80- 110.

Sunday: 60- 80.

During holiday season figures may be even lower. During the biggest exhibitions / fairs figures may be higher (100- 150).

Figures reflect my best estimate for peak times in the evenings. Daytime and late night: 50% of the above (but not everybody is ready to go at 10am, mind you).[/QUOTE]

Last time I visited Oase both my head and left leg disintegrated on exiting the club at 5am. Lucky for me the taxi driver knew a local garage where I was fixed pretty damn quick. The next day I found myself back at the doors to the Oase. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1490425]Thanks Shark16, very helpful.

One silly question. It seems pretty much everyone is comfortable getting BBBJ at these clubs. What is the risk of contacting an std? Obviously, everyone has their own level of risk tolerance but is the risk fairly high, modest, etc.

The only time I visited places like this, I received a covered BJ. Perhaps I am a hypochondriac, but even the covered BJ was a bit scary.

Also, has anyone contacted herpes due to dfk at these clubs?

Pardon my limited understanding of health issues.[/QUOTE]I wondered the same thing about BBBJs when I started this hobby. Initially I was comforted by the stories on this forum about guys who reported hundreds of BBBJs with no problems. But I still had my doubts. While my personal experience certainly doesn't qualify as a valid epidemiological study, I can now report hundreds of BBBJs later, that I have never contracted a single STD, although I did get a fungal infection one time. Over the counter Chlotrimazole, a topical ointment cleared it right up though.

It is difficult to find reliable information about the risks of BBBJ though because (1) scientists can't very well run control experiments on humans forcing a random 100 people to have sex with infected partners and (2) there's a ton of "scare" propaganda out there trying to scare teens into abstinence. I'm not trying to say the risk is zero here, but it's really low. How low? Based on my hunting for this information, I don't think the scientists have reliably quantified this risk, so we can't say anything other than it's really low (at least based on our experiences of hundreds of BBBJs while not catching anything). And yes, I undergo regular checks which have all come back clean.

Now if you get a cut down there somehow, you may have reason to worry about risk of infection. In that case, I would abstain or put on a raincoat for sure.

Your concern over CBJ seems just downright silly to me. You probably have a higher chance of winning the lottery than catching something by CBJ.

I wouldn't worry about DFK either. Given the prevalence of mouth herpes, you likely already have it. Read the information about oral herpes online and its prevalence in the population. By a certain age, most people have this already. It's just that most people are asymptomatic and thus are just carriers who show no symptoms and so have no idea that they have it. It's a minority of persons who are symptomatic. So if you haven't shown any herpes symptoms on your mouth by now, you probably already have it and are just one of the asymptomatic people like most of us. So, go DFK away and enjoy yourself.

You may catch a cold though. Speaking of catching colds, I did spend a week with one of my FKK-wives last year who had a really bad cold. We made out and DFK'ed like crazy the whole week, so I was sure I would catch her cold, but oddly, I never caught a cold from that week. Up until then, I would have guessed that making out with someone who had a bad cold would be a sure way to get a cold, but I guess making out with someone who has a cold isn't always enough to catch a cold.

[QUOTE=Shark16; 1490346]Things change from week to week, but a very rough estimate:

Monday: 50- 60.

Tuesday- Wednesday: 60- 80.

Thursday: 70- 90.

Friday- Saturday: 80- 110.

Sunday: 60- 80.

During holiday season figures may be even lower. During the biggest exhibitions / fairs figures may be higher (100- 150).

Figures reflect my best estimate for peak times in the evenings. Daytime and late night: 50% of the above (but not everybody is ready to go at 10am, mind you).[/QUOTE]Very good estimation from Shark16. My guess would be similar. Only Tuesday is for me a little bit weaker than Wednesday so betwenn Monday and Wednesday. And also in the last years on Monday and Tuesday many of my favorite girls took this day off.

So Oase still has on every day in the week usually the highst number on girls from all Frankfurt FKK clubs.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1490425]Also, has anyone contacted herpes due to dfk at these clubs?

Pardon my limited understanding of health issues.[/QUOTE]I have contracted a minor STD once which may have been due to BBBJ maybe 12 years ago. However testing for herpes showed negative after hundreds of BBBJs and DFKing.

Therefore risk is quite low, but not impossible. Can catch other viruses like colds or bacteria from girls of course.

The majority of people that are going to catch herpes viruses will have it already. Its very common.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1490535]I have contracted a minor STD once which may have been due to BBBJ maybe 12 years ago. However testing for herpes showed negative after hundreds of BBBJs and DFKing.

Therefore risk is quite low, but not impossible. Can catch other viruses like colds or bacteria from girls of course.

The majority of people that are going to catch herpes viruses will have it already. Its very common.[/QUOTE]Just to be clear, Syz is referring to herpes simplex 1 (oral herpes) , which has a prevalence in most Western populations of around 80-90 percent.

Herpes simplex 2 (genital herpes) has a prevalence of around 10-20% in most Western populations (females experience higher prevalence due to anatomical differences which makes infection easier for them than in males).

In other words, you likely already have oral herpes. Almost everyone has it whether they know it or not.

As long as you use a condom, your risk of getting genital herpes is really, really low. So low that everyone in fkk land is getting BBBJ and not worrying about it.

Unfortunately none of us are going to be able to give you a warranty on this so you just have to make your own risk based decision based on all the information available to you.

I think it is a very simple principle for mongers who travel and have fun with girls all over the world.

Always wear a condom before you start any action with the girl.

With the full covered blow job and full covered sexual penetration, you will be definitely be fine.

If you worry about the size or the quality of the condom, you can also bring your own condom (the small package one) with you all the time when you go mongering.

You can either put the condom in the pocket of your bathrobe, and wear the condom before you start any action with the girls.

Does anyone know if Karla (the one with the green streaks in her hair) is still at Oase?

She was one of the only girls in my life who could completely deepthroat me; and I have to feel that again.

Last time I was there on a Saturday in September and she wasn't to be seen.

Also, anyone know which girls are offering rimming and if that's an extra?

Thanks

For me is important like man, injection against hpv, hepatitis. The girls are stupid and do not think for this.

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy; 1490683]Just to be clear, Syz is referring to herpes simplex 1 (oral herpes) , which has a prevalence in most Western populations of around 80-90 percent.

Herpes simplex 2 (genital herpes) has a prevalence of around 10-20% in most Western populations (females experience higher prevalence due to anatomical differences which makes infection easier for them than in males).

In other words, you likely already have oral herpes. Almost everyone has it whether they know it or not.[/QUOTE]No I was referring to both types of herpes. I have never had a cold sore and I tested negative for both types. Either type could theoretically be passed by a BBBJ, however I seem to have caught neither, despite huge amounts of Kissing, BBBJ, DATY, etc.

I am not particularly concerned about catching either type also. I reckon I probably would have caught them by now if it was going to happen.

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy;1490456]You may catch a cold though. Speaking of catching colds, I did spend a week with one of my FKK-wives last year who had a really bad cold. We made out and DFK'ed like crazy the whole week, so I was sure I would catch her cold, but oddly, I never caught a cold from that week. Up until then, I would have guessed that making out with someone who had a bad cold would be a sure way to get a cold, but I guess making out with someone who has a cold isn't always enough to catch a cold.[/QUOTE]Sneezing in early stages of a cold transmits it way better than DFKing in the late stages I believe. I catch colds easily but mostly from the membranes inside my nose. The blood vessels are too close to the surface.

[QUOTE=Oralover; 1490707]Does anyone know if Karla (the one with the green streaks in her hair) is still at Oase?

She was one of the only girls in my life who could completely deepthroat me; and I have to feel that again.

Last time I was there on a Saturday in September and she wasn't to be seen.

Also, anyone know which girls are offering rimming and if that's an extra?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Rimming depends on girl mostly extra. Best rimming from a hot woman is Fiden. 100 euro extra plus 3 hour session so it cost me 400 euro.

2nd best Irina Romanian girl 50 euro extra

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1490425]The only time I visited places like this, I received a covered BJ. Perhaps I am a hypochondriac, but even the covered BJ was a bit scary.

Also, has anyone contacted herpes due to dfk at these clubs?[/QUOTE]I contracted herpes at fkk. I know is it from fkk as that is the only place I have has sex since early late 2011 till now.

Evaluate your own risk if your married and don't want any problems in your marriage then go for CBJ (which reduce the risk). If your single and don't plan to get married and can live with the risk like me then enjoy everysecond of fkk. If your a health freak and scared of getting anything then don't visit a brothel. Go sightseeing and spend money on local food and etc.

It is very simple actually.

[QUOTE=Amriptna111; 1490949]I contracted herpes at fkk. I know is it from fkk as that is the only place I have has sex since early late 2011 till now.

Evaluate your own risk if your married and don't want any problems in your marriage then go for CBJ (which reduce the risk). If your single and don't plan to get married and can live with the risk like me then enjoy everysecond of fkk. If your a health freak and scared of getting anything then don't visit a brothel. Go sightseeing and spend money on local food and etc.

It is very simple actually.[/QUOTE]I contracted clap at Artemis. I think now, having a one-hour long BBBJ with deep-throating increased my chances of getting it tremendously vs a 5 min BBBJ before covered sex. I learned later that the bacteria that cause the disease can live in the throat and never cause any symptoms to the carrier.

Well, it was cured over a week by taking antibiotics but pissing needles of fire for a few days is still not a pleasant experience. Even a scary one, perhaps, if one reads about drug-resistant strains of gonorrhea.

I would be more concerned with the risk of getting syphilis as it can go unnoticed for years and then make you seriously ill. On the other hand, if you get clap you most certainly will know it. That's why I always get tested after I get BBBJs.

So decide for yourself if the reward is worth the risk. (To me, it is, if I don't have my penis sucked for hours.)

[QUOTE=Amriptna111;1490949]I contracted herpes at fkk. I know is it from fkk as that is the only place I have has sex since early late 2011 till now.[/QUOTE]So you believe that herpes Type 2 was caught by BBBJ is that right? I am not dispuiting, just clarifying what activity you think was the most risky that you did.

Did you previously have any cold sores type 1?

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1491104]So you believe that herpes Type 2 was caught by BBBJ is that right? I am not dispuiting, just clarifying what activity you think was the most risky that you did.

Did you previously have any cold sores type 1?[/QUOTE]Syzygies,

It is really hard to say I got it from BBBJ or just normal skin contact as you know rooms in fkk are mostly poorly lit. I believe it is from BBBJ. You mean cold sores yes I do but I have had severe acne problems all my life.

Herpes is not life threatening just an inconvenience just a little bit for me. It can be an issue only for men who are in a relationship. Frankly speaking the only thing I am afraid is HIV others is not a problem well at least for me.

Thanks to everyone for their kind replies. And sorry to hear about your trouble.

In my case, as you astutely pointed out, it is the first (married) unfortunately, so I am a bit paranoid. I think that is the word I should have used more than hypochondriac.

The very few times I visited clubs like these, I passed on the intercourse and dfk, and just received covered BJ, although I paid the full amount. I think even the girls were a bit surprised I did not want intercourse. But that was in Spain and also in SAn Fran. I have been reading about German fkk for such a long time, and have built up so much anticipation that I will probably overcome my fears and yield into the temptation.

That said, I have to admit to something. The last time I was in Barcelona, I received a covered BJ as usual. But the girl put the condom in her mouth and put it on me. I was scared sh$$less, but too excited to object. And a couple of months later, I felt some pain in my testicles and got tested. Turns out I contacted chlamydia. It got cured easily, and I tested again 2 weeks later to make sure I was free of everything, and I was. I guess it is just my luck. In my entire life, I might have received covered BJ may be ten times or less and no BBBJ, no intercourse, so my suspicion is it was that single instance.

[QUOTE=Amriptna111; 1490949]I contracted herpes at fkk. I know is it from fkk as that is the only place I have has sex since early late 2011 till now.

Evaluate your own risk if your married and don't want any problems in your marriage then go for CBJ (which reduce the risk). If your single and don't plan to get married and can live with the risk like me then enjoy everysecond of fkk. If your a health freak and scared of getting anything then don't visit a brothel. Go sightseeing and spend money on local food and etc.

It is very simple actually.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I've read the reports saying that now you will get a "10 EUR food credit" after you pay the 70 EUR entrance fee.

You now have to order food from the bar / restaurant, and the only thing that is under 10 EUR is pizza.

So, if you don't want to pay more money on food, you can only order pizza once.

Is the above information correct? No free food which you can pick up and eat by yourself?

What about non-alcohal drinks (e. G, water or coke) , you have to pay for that?

This is not good.

I mean, if I pay 70 EUR for the entrance fee, I will expect that they offer at least the basic food (e. g, bread or sausages) and basic non-alcohal drinks (e. g, water or coke) for free.

I am not there for their food and drinks of course, but I will be very surprised if the food system in a FKK club is worse than a hostel breakfast.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1490810]Rimming depends on girl mostly extra. Best rimming from a hot woman is Fiden. 100 euro extra plus 3 hour session so it cost me 400 euro.

2nd best Irina Romanian girl 50 euro extra[/QUOTE]Is Irina the tall blond who used to work at Mainhatten?

[QUOTE=Oralover;1491156]Is Irina the tall blond who used to work at Mainhatten?[/QUOTE]No she is a brunette.

[QUOTE=Amriptna111;1491116]Herpes is not life threatening just an inconvenience just a little bit for me. It can be an issue only for men who are in a relationship. Frankly speaking the only thing I am afraid is HIV others is not a problem well at least for me.[/QUOTE]You are playing down things. When the outbreak happens I itches like hell and if you have an allergy it gets worst and the redness spreads to your thigh. There are also other type of std that can cause death not to mention hpv that can cause cancer. If you are an older gentlemen some medication can worsen the symptom and if you have leukimia or cancer and have an outbreak you will suffer!

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1491119]That said, I have to admit to something. The last time I was in Barcelona, I received a covered BJ as usual. But the girl put the condom in her mouth and put it on me. I was scared sh$$less, but too excited to object. And a couple of months later, I felt some pain in my testicles and got tested. Turns out I contacted chlamydia. It got cured easily, and I tested again 2 weeks later to make sure I was free of everything, and I was. I guess it is just my luck. In my entire life, I might have received covered BJ may be ten times or less and no BBBJ, no intercourse, so my suspicion is it was that single instance.[/QUOTE]And your spouse didn't get infected?

Can't get into too many details, but my sex life at home is close to zero.

[QUOTE=Trans Atlantic;1491173]And your spouse didn't get infected?[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

Does anyone know if Aris is still at Oase? Someone mentioned she was leaving after October 16th and maybe heading to Palace.

Also can any regular members (Syzygies etc) please tell me if I can on a Tuesday catch.

A) Lavinia / Aris (Oase)

B) Christina (World)

C) Roxanna / Catalina (Sharks)

Thank you,

Axr383

[QUOTE=Axr383; 1491278]Hi,

Also can any regular members (Syzygies etc) please tell me if I can on a Tuesday catch.

A) Lavinia / Aris (Oase)

B) Christina (World)

C) Roxanna / Catalina (Sharks)

Thank you,

Axr383[/QUOTE]I am not a Tuesday attender. Hessen Bub may be. Also it's very hard to predict Girls.

Catalina is a definite NO. Roxanna is a good chance as Monday is her one day off normally. I did not ask Christina nor Lavinia.

Girls without pimps can show up whenever they feel like it.

[QUOTE=Oralover; 1490707]Does anyone know if Karla (the one with the green streaks in her hair) is still at Oase?

She was one of the only girls in my life who could completely deepthroat me; and I have to feel that again.

Last time I was there on a Saturday in September and she wasn't to be seen.

Also, anyone know which girls are offering rimming and if that's an extra?

Thanks[/QUOTE]O:

I was at Oase this evening and repeated with Carla / Karla (see my previous reviews).

She provides the most consistent GFE that I have found at Oase including a world class BJ.

Her hair still has green highlights (previously purple).

She said that she would be working for the next week or so, then back to Romania for a few weeks, so act quickly if you want to catch her.

She's a sweetie.

BP

A brief report from this evening's trip to Oase.

Lineup was good, but not outstanding. Many of the same girls were there that I met during my last visit in July, but several interesting new options. Not as many "stunners" as usual, andvery heavily weighted to Romanians as usual, but still a number of good selections and some variety, if you are patient. New layout OK but does not appear to be much of an upgrade (only new amenity is the glass "relaxing room" across from the sauna by the stairs. Also agree with the comments that the new food plan sucks. Not there for the food, but not would be nice to have options for something other than a small pizza OR pasta OR salad for 70E entry.

Session 1. Roxy. Hungary. Little spinner with a great body and cute face, but not as impressive up close. Started well with DFK and average BJ, but tried to upsell CIM and ended up interrupting the flow, so not a great start. Would not repeat. Session 2. Repeat with Carla / Karla. Romania. Thin, athletic, dyed blonde pixie streaks of color in her hair (previously purple, now green). Outstanding GFE as always. Session 3. Cindy. Jamaica one of three black girls present this evening. Fantastic body with natural A cup breasts, a killer ass, and fantastic smile. Very sweet, affectionate and articulate. Speaks english well. 10-15 minutes of couch time before a one hour full GFE session. She is new (4 months at Oase she said) and definitely a keeper. 8/9/9 on my scale.

Guys:

Planning to visit the Frnk'furt FKKs sometime end of the month 3/4 days.

Any hotel recommendations names or areas - normal budget / tourist. With proximity to public transport (not planning to rent car).

I am assuming most FKKs (Oase, Palace, Mianhatten, etc) are on some public transport?

Thanks

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1491603]I am assuming most FKKs (Oase, Palace, Mianhatten, etc) are on some public transport?

Thanks[/QUOTE]YES! All the above mentioned clubs plus World and Sharks are reachable by train + taxi combo. I have done that many times.

So you can stay in Frankfurt and within 1 hour reach each of these places. Palace and Mainhattan are closest. 15 min taxi ride from Frankfurt downtown.

There are quite a few economical hotels close to main train station in Frankfurt, check booking.com.

-Kepp

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1491605]YES! All the above mentioned clubs plus World and Sharks are reachable by train + taxi combo. I have done that many times.

So you can stay in Frankfurt and within 1 hour reach each of these places. Palace and Mainhattan are closest. 15 min taxi ride from Frankfurt downtown.

There are quite a few economical hotels close to main train station in Frankfurt, check booking. Com.

-Kepp[/QUOTE]Keppana.

Thanks for quick response. Any specific hotel name or area. You would suggest.

SBT

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1491609]Keppana.

Thanks for quick response. Any specific hotel name or area. You would suggest.

SBT[/QUOTE]This could have been easily searched for in the General Section. I don't know how computer savy you are, I would think you should be able to use a price comparison website given that you can post on a forum. As Kepp has suggested, go to booking. Com or Kayak or any website you believe gives you a rate you like for a room. Also he mentioned main train station, it's a good a idea to get a room near the trainstation (hauptbahnhof It's called in German) if you like to save money on fares (trains are cheaper than taxi). It also happens that the rooms are the cheapest near the hauptbahnhof. You can also get a place near Oase itself if you would like a place near the FKK, you just need to look it up on the hotels map provided on the hotel search website of your choice. On maps look up where Oase is at, and look on the hotel search website to look for hotels that price / location that seams right for you. I would recommend a place near Central station (search for direction to Oase from central station on general info or Oase thread). If you have rental car, I would suggest a place close to Oase, but with a private parking. Look in the map for the hotels. If pricing of hotels and transportation is not of concern, search under this thread for talks of recommended hotels.

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1491605]There are quite a few economical hotels close to main train station in Frankfurt, check booking. Com.

-Kepp[/QUOTE]

Regarding the prior discussion about herpes, I looked back at my last test results for herpes, and I noticed that my results for Simplex 1 (that is oral herpes) was also negative. I had not really thought about that before because I always zeroed on my results for HSV-2 (genital herpes) to confirm that it was negative.

So, here's what I don't understand. If the prevalence of oral herpes (HSV-Simplex 1) is around 80-90% in Western populations, then how is possible that I am able to kiss all my dozens and dozens of Oase girls and still not catch the oral herpes virus? That just baffles me. With all the other guys that these girls are kissing, it would stand to reason that I should have caught it by now, but I haven't according to my latest lab tests.

I mean, I always use mouth wash after kissing my girls, but I can't think that would sufficient to prevent catching these sorts of viruses.

I realize that the blood serology tests have a naturally built-in 3 month delay due to the time required for antibodies to build up to detectable levels but I've been kissing Oase girls for quite a bit of time already.

Baffling.

Regarding SBTiger's question below, I also like using tripadvisor. Com and hotels. Com for finding hotels. I really read a lot of the other customer reviews to get a realistic idea about a given hotel. On tripadvisor, you have to be a little careful and ignore a bit the non-American hotel reviews because "spacious" to a European doesn't mean the same thing as "spacious" to an American. Me, I've stayed in some of the discount hotel chains in Germany and regretted it. Now, some of them like B&B Hotels are just fine, but some of the others like Ibis can be code-word for "downright shitty." Granted, I am sure that my experiences with hotels are much more limited than many of the Europeans on this board. Just my opinion based on my limited experience.

If your visit focuses more on Oase than the other Hessen clubs, I recommend that you stay in Friedrichsdorf or Bad Homburg. If your visit is over warm summer months, make sure your hotel has air conditioning because air conditioning isn't standard in Europe like it is in America.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1491486]I am not a Tuesday attender. Hessen Bub may be. Also it's very hard to predict Girls.

Catalina is a definite NO. Roxanna is a good chance as Monday is her one day off normally. I did not ask Christina nor Lavinia.

Girls without pimps can show up whenever they feel like it.[/QUOTE]Thanks Syzgies,

I am in Frankfurt Tues 26th. Flying out on Wednesday.

I unfortunately booked near Palace thinking it would be the right decision but since then the posts have all ranked palace bottom and I don't want to waste my money here when there is better talent and experiences further out.

I was thinking to do either Oase, Sharks or World but I am only in Frankfurt for 30 hours.

I would love to do two, which two would be best suited?

I will be arriving at FKK 1 around 2pm on Tuesday (as I land at 10am) and then going onto another FKK.

Of the three which one must I visit. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Is World doing lingerie theme on a Tuesday? Anyone been?

Cheers Guys!

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy;1491765]If your visit focuses more on Oase than the other Hessen clubs, I recommend that you stay in Friedrichsdorf or Bad Homburg. If your visit is over warm summer months, make sure your hotel has air conditioning because air conditioning isn't standard in Europe like it is in America.[/QUOTE]Actually this makes alot of sense even if only take public transport. The reason being is the convenience even at a higher cost. Let's say it's 50e a night by central station which is 40min(not even considering walk to the station, purchase tickets, and wait for train) train ride to the nearest town where you must get off to take a 10e cab to Oase. If you stay at the nearby town, no need for the 40min ride, and you simply need to take a cab to the club. That would save you time both ways which is close to 1. 5 hours. If let's say at the nearby town is 20e higher in hotel price, it's still be worth it since you don't waste the money on train fare (4. 25e) and there and back is double (8. 5e) , and you are only paying close to 10e more for the 1. 5 hours your are saving by staying at a hotel at a town near Oase. A real big benefit to staying at nearby town is that since you only need to take a cab, you are not tied to the train schedule of when to leave the club.

Also regarding the Herpes talk, Ultra, you can be part of the 10% that has immunity to the type 1. That could explain why you are not getting it from the girls. Also that percentage that do not have type 1, could be immune.

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy;1491765]Regarding the prior discussion about herpes, I looked back at my last test results for herpes, and I noticed that my results for Simplex 1 (that is oral herpes) was also negative.[/QUOTE]I think most us have plenty of opportunities to catch type 1. Those of us lucky enough to be not susceptible, I think we have a strong chance to avoid type 2 as well.

It's fortunate for us that chlamydia is easily treated since thAt is the most common and easiest to transmit.

The advantage of working girls is that are perhaps more likely to get checked than average girls, if they are smart.

My example applies well if you stay consecutive days to attend Oase only, but yeah I see your point also if you go there for only one day having a hotel nearby so that you can stay at the club late as you want without worrying about the train back if the hotel is a short cab ride away. That extra cost to be closer to the club, could be worth it to avoid this trouble.

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1491603]Guys:

Planning to visit the Frnk'furt FKKs sometime end of the month 3/4 days.

Any hotel recommendations names or areas. Normal budget / tourist. With proximity to public transport (not planning to rent car).

I am assuming most FKKs (Oase, Palace, Mianhatten, etc) are on some public transport?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I think it depends on what time of day you will sleep. I would consider staying near the main train station for best access to all clubs. If makes sense to stay near 1 club if you will do that club on consecutive days.

Could stay at clubs till late and catch first train back to Frankfurt e. G. At 4. 30 am. Then sleep till midday. Taxi back to Hotel in Frankfurt a bit too expensive from Giessen. From Sharks about 50 E, from Oase about 35 E, negotiate the price rather than taking the meter. I usually catch the train.

Another possibility is to stay each night at the location of the nearby club if you want to change accommodation often. A stay at the Giessen after visiting World is possible.

Get DB Navigator App for smartphone with all the train times and connections.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1491870]Another possibility is to stay each night at the location of the nearby club if you want to change accommodation often. A stay at the Giessen after visiting World is possible.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is a logical approach, however, from what I have seen, doing a minimal search, is that there is not an overwhelming selection of decently priced hotels within walking distance of Giessen Hbf and that generally hotels in Giessen seem (at least to me) to be over-priced vs the FFM Hbf area. Or perhaps I am missing something?

O

[QUOTE=Ortos; 1491970]Yes, this is a logical approach, however, from what I have seen, doing a minimal search, is that there is not an overwhelming selection of decently priced hotels within walking distance of Giessen Hbf and that generally hotels in Giessen seem (at least to me) to be over-priced vs the FFM Hbf area. Or perhaps I am missing something?

O[/QUOTE]There is the Gruenner Baum in Garbenteich. When I stayed in Giessen was at least a 20 min walk from the train.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1491870]Another possibility is to stay each night at the location of the nearby club if you want to change accommodation often. A stay at the Giessen after visiting World is possible.

Get DB Navigator App for smartphone with all the train times and connections.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ortos; 1491970]Yes, this is a logical approach, however, from what I have seen, doing a minimal search, is that there is not an overwhelming selection of decently priced hotels within walking distance of Giessen Hbf and that generally hotels in Giessen seem (at least to me) to be over-priced vs the FFM Hbf area. Or perhaps I am missing something?

O[/QUOTE]I have stayed in Best Western Plus Hotel Steinsgarten and Hotel am Ludwigsplatz in Giessen. Decent hotels, good enough for 1 or 2 nights. Taxi from Giessen HBF to these hotels costs about 10€ one way. The prices of these hotels are around 85 €/night which is a bit more than Frankfurt HBF area where you pay like 60 €/night for similar quality. So the saving is 25€/night, peanuts. Should not be a big deal for occasional visitor if staying in Giessen gives you other benefits. For example I have sometimes visited World 2 days in a row, then a hotel in Giessen is best. Also it is more trouble free when you don't have to think about the last trains + taxi fares back to Frankfurts etc. You can stay and fuck the girls in the club as long as you like and then take taxi to the hotel nearby.

DB navigator is brilliant tool.

It will be matter of minutes when someone posts the idea of renting a car. Oh yes I know, if you have a car then you naturally don't need to stay the night in Giessen. I rarely rent a car since the Warsteiner tastes so damn nice after a sauna and all that hard fucking :cool:

-Kepp

[QUOTE=Keppana;1492004]I have stayed in Best Western Plus Hotel Steinsgarten and Hotel am Ludwigsplatz in Giessen. Decent hotels, good enough for 1 or 2 nights. Taxi from Giessen HBF to these hotels costs about 10€ one way. The prices of these hotels are around 85 €/night which is a bit more than Frankfurt HBF area where you pay like 60 €/night for similar quality. So the saving is 25€/night, peanuts. Should not be a big deal for occasional visitor if staying in Giessen gives you other benefits.[/QUOTE]As you say, staying in Giessen (or Garbenteich for that matter) solves the dilemna of having to leave the club early and / or adjust your session selections in order to make the last train back to FFM.

However, I cringe at the thought of having to pay as much as 85e / night for a hotel room. Much too much for me. I don't need such a posh place, just clean / quiet / wc-in room, maybe a tv. There are alot of options in / around FFM Hbf for 40-55e, and that's what I was hoping to find within walking distance to Giessen Hbf. But the cheapest I found is 60 / night. If all I'm doing is sleeping for a few hours, I want to find a cheaper (but clean / quiet) option.

I just booked lots of nights at the Ibis Centrum near FFM Hbf for 35e / night, through some kind of 2 nights for one deal on the Accor Hotels website (this deal ended 31. 10. 13, BTW). I was able to save alot of money. But 85e / night is a huge jump up. It's a no go for me, or at least I want to avoid the feeling that I just dumped cash. Similarly, that's why I never contemplated staying at the Contel (?) Hotel right around the corner from Sharks: too expensive. Or the Flemmings next to Palace (that's back when Palace was worth visiting!).

These days when one engages in a 7-10 day FFK romp, saving 25e / night here and there does add up and becomes significant. So not exactly peanuts anymore.

I've known about the Garbenteich pension for some time, ever since Optimist (under his old posting name) published his experiences there. So maybe that is the best / only answer?

O

Use google maps. In Giessen you can stay for less than 50E in Hotel Adler or Gastehaus Wilhelma (both very close to central station). In Garbenteich the Grunen baum is usually full, but you have a hotel in Wtzenborn Steinberg (3km from World) by the same name that is very cheap. There are a couple more reasonably priced hotels you can get here. Or the etap budget in Linden of course, but that is about 9kmfrom World.

[QUOTE=Ortos; 1492099]These days when one engages in a 7-10 day FFK romp, saving 25e / night here and there does add up and becomes significant. So not exactly peanuts anymore.

O[/QUOTE]Sure, when staying for 7-10 days it's wise to save money in the hotels. I usually go to Germany for weekend trips and stay max 1 night in Giessen. That's why I usually book a bit better hotel and pay 20-25 € more. I don't like the idea of dumping cash either but I also don't like to stay in the cheapest hotels that have rooms like dungeons.

-Kepp

When in Frankfurt my preference is budget alternatives located close to the clubs as I am just in a hotel / guesthouse to sleep a few hours before I head back to the club / next club anyway. Also, I like the convenience of avoiding the late night travel to downtown. So, for those who are looking for the same I made a report a while ago which I think still stands (pricing mostly in the 35- 50E range). See [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1464-FKK-World-Giessen&p=1204551&viewfull=1#post1204551[/url].

In addition to the hotel / guesthouse alternatives in the report you can add:
- Hotel- Garni "Zum Trunk" in Friedrichsdorf-Köppern just a 10 mnts taxi ride from Oase. Very simple, but adequate (thanks to Bread for that one!). Around 35E I believe it was. Email [url]hotel-trunk@t-online.de[/url] .
- Zum Grünen Baum in Garbenteich very close to World (as recommended by Syzy and Ortos/Optimist); see [url]http://www.zumgrünenbaum-pohlheim.de/[/url]

So, local budget alternatives exist for those who want it.

Note: These alternatives are mostly of very modest / simple standard. Also, speaking / writing a little bit of German is a great advantage when trying out the smallest local family hotels / guesthouses (the staff not always used to foreign language clientele). Also note I have never tried out the cheapest alternatives around Hauptbahnhof and therefore I am not able to compare in detail.

Gents who like to travel in style have plenty of other local options both in Bad Homburg and in Giessen of course.

Or why don't you just try to live in the Oase girls room. I wouldn't mind LOL.

I have always wondered how the girls room look like.

But I know quite a number of them sleep naked in the summer yum yum.

I was in Oase yesterday and it was slow since it was Monday but I managed to speak to at least 15 of the ladies present and all of them came from Romania. I have nothing against Romania or Romanian girls but I like a little bit of variation.

Had two sessions of which one was good with a younger lady (21) with dark hair and small tits and one was soso with a little bigger lady with huge tits. I don't remeber their names.

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1492004]I have stayed in Best Western Plus Hotel Steinsgarten and Hotel am Ludwigsplatz in Giessen. Decent hotels, good enough for 1 or 2 nights. Taxi from Giessen HBF to these hotels costs about 10€ one way. The prices of these hotels are around 85 €/night which is a bit more than Frankfurt HBF area where you pay like 60 €/night for similar quality. So the saving is 25€/night, peanuts. Should not be a big deal for occasional visitor if staying in Giessen gives you other benefits. For example I have sometimes visited World 2 days in a row, then a hotel in Giessen is best. Also it is more trouble free when you don't have to think about the last trains + taxi fares back to Frankfurts etc. You can stay and fuck the girls in the club as long as you like and then take taxi to the hotel nearby.

DB navigator is brilliant tool.

It will be matter of minutes when someone posts the idea of renting a car. Oh yes I know, if you have a car then you naturally don't need to stay the night in Giessen. I rarely rent a car since the Warsteiner tastes so damn nice after a sauna and all that hard fucking :cool:

-Kepp[/QUOTE]Thanks all for the wide range of very useful and practical replies, including Sharks old reports (that page additionally has useful step by step directions to everywhere - very handy).

1. Giessen: On the map I see this as way North of Frankfurt the'town (50-60 KM). So that is the Giessen town / area everyone is referring to (there seems to be some street near main also called Giessen). But when I check Oase location- it seems very far from Giessen- am I reading the maps correctly? But I do see World is in Giessen. (I have not yet formed any opinion World vs Oase. But likely would may go to both, Palace being sort of ruled out based on all the reviews)

2. Last trains: What time are the last train. Midnight? Same on weekends? The DB Bhan site did not say (or I couldn't find) , have downloaded the App- hopefully it comes handy. One can always go early and come back early.

My 'general' preference is stay near main area. Hopefully there is more to F'furt than just the FKKs- also need to kill time during the day- maybe I find a gem.

Thanks.

Sam

My estimation about Oase's Romanian porportion is about 80 percent. There are most of the time always also some girls from Bulgaria, Moldova, Poland, Russia, Czech, former USSR states, the Caribbean, South America and even from Germany.

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1492498]2. Last trains: What time are the last train. Midnight? Same on weekends? The DB Bhan site did not say (or I couldn't find) , have downloaded the App- hopefully it comes handy. One can always go early and come back early.

Sam[/QUOTE]Need to kill time? LOL. Most visitors wish they more available.

Ok Giessen or Garbenteich are train stations relevant to World.

For Oase the stations are Bad homburg through to Friedrichsdorf closest. However Bad homburg is guaranteed to have taxis waiting.

Your DB Navigator App will tell you the last trains once you work out how to keep asking for "later".

Coincidently. The last train back from Giessen is 12. 08am and same time for last train back from Friedrichsdorf. If miss it there are still other lines.

Last train back from Darmstadt (Sharks) is 12. 30 or the slow one at 12. 35.

In most cases trains resume between 4 and 4. 30 am if you stay till club closing time.

On occasions I took a taxi all the way back from Oase. 35 euros fixed price. Taxi knows best route when price is fixed. When on the meter they like to go the long way that will cost more.

This web site has all the train time tables:

[url]http://www.traffiq.de/[/url]

All the regional S-bahn time tables are located here:

[url]http://www.traffiq.de/10.de.fahrplaene_zum_download.html?_vm=63[/url]

The S5 is the one you want to and from Oase, available here:

[url]http://www.traffiq.de/fm/20/2013_Buch_Linie_S5_ab_2012_12_09.pdf[/url]

It's handy to copy this pdf to your phone.

So, the last train out from Oase leaves at 23:08 from Friedrichsdorf and 23:15 from Bad Homburg.

Remember when buying your ticket to Oase, it's outside the regular Frankfurt zone, so you have to pay a little bit more by indicating your destination (that is, Bad Homburg or Friedrichsdorf as the case may be) or risk being fined by a train controller. Also, not guaranteed to be any taxis at Friedrichsdorf but 100% chance of taxis at Bad Homburg.

Or instead of these time tables, you could just use the trial & error method with the DB Bahn app as Syz pointed out to arrive at the same answer.

Sometimes, especially on Saturdays and Sundays, the S5 only leaves every half hour from Bad Homburg and even less frequently from Friedrichsdorf, so it pays to read the schedule to better time your arrival to the platform because if you just miss the last train by 2 minutes, you're stuck on the platform for another 28 minutes, which isn't any fun in the freezing cold.

Remember also that most taxi drivers will lie to you when you ask to be taken to a train station late at night. They will claim that you already missed the last train, that the station is closed for renovation, or that aliens have taken over the s-bahn. This is normal. Just ignore what the taxi guy says and insist on being dropped off. I am so used to this tactic that now, every time they tell me I missed the last train, I just reply,"Yes, yes, I know. I am not taking the train. I just sleep in the street. Kein Problem."

I can understand that the cabbies will lie or take longer routes intentionally, but are of them violent and rob passengers, especially foreigners who don't speak German. Oase is so out of the way, I hear fields around, I imagine there is hardly anyone around to help in the night if the cabbie decides to pull a gun on you.

Silly question I am sure, but I have lived in some sleazy places I guess.

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy; 1493038]This web site has all the train time tables:

[url]http://www.traffiq.de/[/url]

All the regional S-bahn time tables are located here:

[url]http://www.traffiq.de/10.de.fahrplaene_zum_download.html?_vm=63[/url]

The S5 is the one you want to and from Oase, available here:

[url]http://www.traffiq.de/fm/20/2013_Buch_Linie_S5_ab_2012_12_09.pdf[/url]

It's handy to copy this pdf to your phone.

So, the last train out from Oase leaves at 23:08 from Friedrichsdorf and 23:15 from Bad Homburg.

Remember when buying your ticket to Oase, it's outside the regular Frankfurt zone, so you have to pay a little bit more by indicating your destination (that is, Bad Homburg or Friedrichsdorf as the case may be) or risk being fined by a train controller. Also, not guaranteed to be any taxis at Friedrichsdorf but 100% chance of taxis at Bad Homburg...[/QUOTE]

Visited Oase Tuesday after exactly 1 year and it was like I didn't miss a week. I still knew about 70% of the girls many of them were shocked to see me. I still think Alexia with glasses is the best girl at Oase. There was 2 cute petite girls who I didn't see after my initial sighting of them. One was bleached blonde with blue tips. The other was a redhead. Would have went with either of them but both disappeared after my initial sighting of them.

I felt sorry for the girls. So many girls so few men. Many of the girls started leaving quite early.

I didn't see Daniella who was rumoured to be there and no sign of Lavinia.

The girl at the door was extremely friendly. Caught me off guard. LOL.

As for the food, I'm really not sure why everyone if bitching. The wood burning stove pizza is big and was delicious. I would easily pay 10 euro for that pizza at a restaurant. The pizza took less than 10 minutes to get to me.

As for the club layout, I really like how it is now. Never a bad thing to be eating in the cafeteria watching naked girls walk to the change room. The relax area is nice. The open kino makes the club look bigger. The change room isn't so grungy any more.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1493128]As for the food, I'm really not sure why everyone if bitching. The wood burning stove pizza is big and was delicious. I would easily pay 10 euro for that pizza at a restaurant. The pizza took less than 10 minutes to get to me.

E.[/QUOTE]+1 I actually like the pizza there LOL. Only thing is I wished they are buffet style where I can eat anytime I want. That's all.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1493061]I can understand that the cabbies will lie or take longer routes intentionally, but are of them violent and rob passengers, especially foreigners who don't speak German. Oase is so out of the way, I hear fields around, I imagine there is hardly anyone around to help in the night if the cabbie decides to pull a gun on you.

Silly question I am sure, but I have lived in some sleazy places I guess.[/QUOTE]HB summed it up best once when he remarked that this is Frankfurt, not Tehran.

The cabbies aren't going to physically mess with you.

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy;1493038]So, the last train out from Oase leaves at 23:08 from Friedrichsdorf and 23:15 from Bad Homburg.[/QUOTE]Not correct. I have caught the 00:08 from Friedrichsdorf (0:15 from Bad Homburg) many times. After that have to wait to something like 4:38AM (from memory - could be off as never caught that one). Normally the trains go every 30 mins but there is no 23:38 from Friedrichsdorf.

You should have used the DB Navigator App, its easier, tells if trains are late, when the next 3 departures leave, and can ask for later departures (or earlier).

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1493337]Not correct. I have caught the 00:08 from Friedrichsdorf (0:15 from Bad Homburg) many times. After that have to wait to something like 4:38AM (from memory. Could be off as never caught that one). Normally the trains go every 30 mins but there is no 23:38 from Friedrichsdorf.

You should have used the DB Navigator App, its easier, tells if trains are late, when the next 3 departures leave, and can ask for later departures (or earlier).[/QUOTE]You are quite right. I am apparently not able to read a train time table correctly. I overlooked the last column. Last trains out are indeed at 0:08 from Friedrichsdorf and 0:15 from Bad Homburg.

I really recommend that everyone rent a car. Way easier. Plus, you can stay as late as you want at the club. By the time you pay for the cab both ways from Friedrichsdorf or Bad Homburg, you've already spent 20-30 Euros which is almost as much the daily rental cost of a compact car from Sixt, assuming you aren't paying extra for insurance (if your credit card provides this) and assuming you rent from one of the non-airport locations and assuming you don't need to rent a gps (you can either use Google Maps on your phone or buy your own TomTom). Given all the time wasted with the train, the car is really the logical choice here given that you aren't really saving that much cash by taking the train.

Another reason I really like having a car is because then I can get away with not having a hotel room for my last night in town. I spend all night in the club and use the car to store my luggage instead of the hotel room and then fly out early the next morning.

Oct 18th had come and I boarded my flight to being my journey to Frankfurt. A few airplane meais and many hours later I land in Frankfurt at 5:15am Saturday morning. By the time I make it through passport control and collect my luggage I head to Sixt to pick up my rental car and off I go towards Friedrichsdorf to check into the Mecure. Luckily I was able to check in really early, around 8 am and take a rest. I got up around noon and was trying to decide whether to head up to World or simply head over and chill out for the afternoon at Oase which was about 10mins away. I ended up deciding on Oase and drove over there and arrived at 2:30pm. Pulling into the parking area there was an attendant in what looks like a security shack at the entrance of Oase. I drove right by the attendant and parked. I walked in and it was pretty quite an there were 3 girls near the entry area. Paid my 70 euros and got my key, two bands, robe, towel and slippers. The girl at the front desk showed me where the men's locker room was and pointed out where the kitchen / food area was and I was on my way.

After getting showered, robed up and make my way up the stairs to check out the place and the ladies. I wasn't expecting too much on the line up as it was just after 2:30pm and I would say there were about 10 guys and maybe around 10 girls. Most of the girls were not very impressive at all and I would say that rating wise I would say not better than an 7 for any of them. I decided to enjoy the outdoor area as the sun was out and it was actually quite nice to to lounge in the sun. I took a couple of laps around between lounging in the sun and going and getting a drink. Around 3:30p the number of girls was picking up and so was the quality. I was approached by Emma who claimed she was from Spain but she really looked like she might have been Romanian. Nonetheless, we ended up on the couch in front of the big screen where hardcore porn was playing away. Emma's English was pretty good as we chatted about her likes and dislikes and just basic chit chat. There was a lesbian video playing and I ask if she liked that and her response was "No, not really but if you are interested I have a friend who could join us". Well, point taken. No threesome. Emma asked if I was interested in heading to a room and I said yes. So, we ended up in a room in the indoor hot tub spa area. I ended up spending a nice hour with Emma. She had a nice body, performed a nice CBJ (covered at my request) and was working it nicely for a good 15mins before I let loose. Post the clean up she gave me a nice massage and chatted for awhile. Round 2 started with her giving attention to my little member during the massage and she covered me and off to a multitude of positions where after 20mins of pounding away I hit my second release. I was totally spent combining that with my jet lag. Cleaned up and went over to the locker and paid her with a 10euro tip. Emma was very nice but I don't think I would repeat again since by the time we finished, around 4:30pm the line up had grown quite a bit and the quality increased quite a bit too as there were a couple of stunners. At this time there were probably around 40. 50 girls. Being that I was spent, I went out and took time in the dry and wet sauna to relax and chill. At 5pm the pizza / pasta menu opens up for orders. I promptly put my order in at 5pm and got served up in about 15mins. The pizza was good. The table right near the locker room area entrance for the girls in the kitchen area is a great table to have. You see the girls coming and going and you can survey the talent as they come and go from the entrance.

After dinner I end up going out to the garden area for some more rest and relaxation. The sun was going down and it was getting cool of course. I spent the next 2 hours relaxing between the outdoor area and the dry and wet sauna. At around 8pm there are now about 120-130 girls roaming around. As I was coming in to get a drink and hanging out I had a number of girls come up to me to ask if I wanted company but I wasn't quite ready until Julia came by. This girl was a "10" girl next door. What I mean by that is that she didn't have a stunning face but it was next door hot and she had a spectacular body. She was 175cm and was way tall with heels. Julia was so so sweet. I decided to take her to the room and spent a quality 1 hour with her. Julia got me to shots 3 and 4 with a spectacular CBJ (again covered at my request although she really wanted to go BBBJ) and she had to work at it for a good 25mins until I blew. A nice massage later and I was up and ready to go as this girls body. Totally natural and just amazing, she said she was 18 and from what I saw and felt. 18 is about right. Took her threw missionary, cowgirl and then doggie. And that doggie view finally did it for me as I came for shot #4.

Well, that pretty much wrapped up my night. I ended up sticking around till around 11 but given the jet lag, four shots on goal. It was time to call it a day and head back to the hotel. There were many guys coming in at that time as there was a line building to get in. I would definitely come back again.

Thanks very much, nice report.

Did you negotiate upfront for multiple shots during the hour? Or is that a standard practice, I. E if you pay for an hour, you can have as many shots as possible in that hour?

What is the normal fkk rule on this? Is it standard, or to be negotiated session by session?

[QUOTE=FredZee; 1493445]Oct 18th had come and I boarded my flight to being my journey to Frankfurt. A few airplane meais and many hours later I land in Frankfurt at 5:15am Saturday morning. By the time I make it through passport control and collect my luggage I head to Sixt to pick up my rental car and off I go towards Friedrichsdorf to check into the Mecure. Luckily I was able to check in really early, around 8 am and take a rest. I got up around noon and was trying to decide whether to head up to World or simply head over and chill out for the afternoon at Oase which was about 10mins away. I ended up deciding on Oase and drove over there and arrived at 2:30pm. Pulling into the parking area there was an attendant in what looks like a security shack at the entrance of Oase. I drove right by the attendant and parked. I walked in and it was pretty quite an there were 3 girls near the entry area. Paid my 70 euros and got my key, two bands, robe, towel and slippers. The girl at the front desk showed me where the men's locker room was and pointed out where the kitchen / food area was and I was on my way.

After getting showered, robed up and make my way up the stairs to check out the place and the ladies. I wasn't expecting too much on the line up as it was just after 2:30pm and I would say there were about 10 guys and maybe around 10 girls. Most of the girls were not very impressive at all and I would say that rating wise I would say not better than an 7 for any of them. I decided to enjoy the outdoor area as the sun was out and it was actually quite nice to to lounge in the sun. I took a couple of laps around between lounging in the sun and going and getting a drink. Around 3:30p the number of girls was picking up and so was the quality. I was approached by Emma who claimed she was from Spain but she really looked like she might have been Romanian. Nonetheless, we ended up on the couch in front of the big screen where hardcore porn was playing away. Emma's English was pretty good as we chatted about her likes and dislikes and just basic chit chat. There was a lesbian video playing and I ask if she liked that and her response was "No, not really but if you are interested I have a friend who could join us". Well, point taken. No threesome. Emma asked if I was interested in heading to a room and I said yes. So, we ended up in a room in the indoor hot tub spa area. I ended up spending a nice hour with Emma. She had a nice body, performed a nice CBJ (covered at my request) and was working it nicely for a good 15mins before I let loose. Post the clean up she gave me a nice massage and chatted for awhile. Round 2 started with her giving attention to my little member during the massage and she covered me and off to a multitude of positions where after 20mins of pounding away I hit my second release. I was totally spent combining that with my jet lag. Cleaned up and went over to the locker and paid her with a 10euro tip. Emma was very nice but I don't think I would repeat again since by the time we finished, around 4:30pm the line up had grown quite a bit and the quality increased quite a bit too as there were a couple of stunners..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy;1493415]Another reason I really like having a car is because then I can get away with not having a hotel room for my last night in town. I spend all night in the club and use the car to store my luggage instead of the hotel room and then fly out early the next morning.[/QUOTE]Why do you want to fly out early morning? Not to go directly to work I presume.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1493061]I can understand that the cabbies will lie or take longer routes intentionally, but are of them violent and rob passengers, especially foreigners who don't speak German. Oase is so out of the way, I hear fields around, I imagine there is hardly anyone around to help in the night if the cabbie decides to pull a gun on you.

Silly question I am sure, but I have lived in some sleazy places I guess.[/QUOTE]This is Germany not some second / third world country. All you need is their license plate and they will be busted.

If you are really worried, you can mitigate this concern by spending all you euros at Oase before hopping into the cab.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1493458]Thanks very much, nice report.

Did you negotiate upfront for multiple shots during the hour? Or is that a standard practice, I. E if you pay for an hour, you can have as many shots as possible in that hour?

What is the normal fkk rule on this? Is it standard, or to be negotiated session by session?[/QUOTE]The assumption is that it is one "shot on goal" per 30min session. I didn't negotiate this upfront but when I was in the room I told the girls that I was interested in a relaxed session and 1 hour would be good. The reply was "great" and there was discussion of what to do first for the first "release" and then for the second.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1493692]Why do you want to fly out early morning? Not to go directly to work I presume.[/QUOTE]This is just when my return flight leaves. I don't control when my plane leaves. Morning return flights to the US actually work well for transatlantic flights because of the time difference. There are limited nonstop flight choices to my home city. So, this is just the way the times work out in my case.

I didn't want to post this on the public forum as I suspect no one else is interested in my response but since your account doesn't allow me to PM you, this was the only way I could answer your question. My apologies to everyone for cluttering up the forum with this rather uninteresting answer.

Don't worry Syz. I know why why you block PMs, so no need to explain.

[QUOTE=Ultrahappy;1493849]This is just when my return flight leaves. I don't control when my plane leaves. Morning return flights to the US actually work well for transatlantic flights because of the time difference. There are limited nonstop flight choices to my home city. So, this is just the way the times work out in my case.[/QUOTE]Don't be so concerned. The forum fills with loads of useless comments and useless questions as well, even useless reports not giving any specifics about girls. LOL.

I do feel for you, living in the US. My original country is also very far from good sex opportunities so that I would be forced to seek an Asian brothel when I get desperate, but this Christmas I will be reduced to wanking only for a few weeks I suspect, unless as Asian girl I have known for 20 years can escape her BF for an evening.

So expensive to fly to Frankfurt for sex. Would Brazil / Columbia be a cheaper option? At least you save on one Hotel night.

Hiring a car makes a lot of sense for you guys needing to absolutely maximize your mongering time over several days. As I normally monger only one day per week, when in Germany, I can't be bothered to go hire a car, and there is no where to park easily where I live in Frankfurt. I now have buddy Shark Eater who is also not normally bothering to hire a car, but we can share transport on occasions now.

I am not done with Oase like some others, not having "pulled the plug" completely just yet. However it has currently moved to my number 3 priority, as am starting to build a list of several favourites at Sharks now, and several of my Oase favourites have left / disappeared being Sylvia (Hun. Would return in a flash to do her again) , Amalia (now at sharks) , Maria (not Marie) , Luna, Lena (long gone) , etc, leaving Lavinia, and a few 2nd tier type girls, not quite perfection. I suppose there are some good girls that I never even tried just yet, but not optifik enough to have "pulled the trigger". Someone else reported not having "pulled the plug" LOL (I think might have been the wrong metaphor) and not yet having taken the girl.

Shark Eater tells me I must now try Mainhatten, but I am scared about having favourites at too many different locations and the effect on my weekly budget.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1493984]Don't be so concerned. The forum fills with loads of useless comments and useless questions as well, even useless reports not giving any specifics about girls. LOL.

Hiring a car makes a lot of sense for you guys needing to absolutely maximize your mongering time over several days. As I normally monger only one day per week, when in Germany, I can't be bothered to go hire a car, and there is no where to park easily where I live in Frankfurt. I now have buddy Shark Eater who is also not normally bothering to hire a car, but we can share transport on occasions now.

I am not done with Oase like some others, not having "pulled the plug" completely just yet. However it has currently moved to my number 3 priority[/QUOTE]Ouch reports without specific about girls LOL.

Yes to travel from the USA just to see FKK wives wow kinda feel sorry for you. Should try Tijuana in Mexico. Colombia would be a good destination too.

Syz to me Mainhattan is ok but line up is bellow par compared to Sharks or Oase. Better World IMHO.

I love Sharks now too. Well at least for a Hessen club.

Syzgies are you Asian?

All,

I have read a few of the recent posts, but have some questions for those who are more experienced and familiar.

This will be my first visit to an FKK. I plan on visiting on a Tuesday, what should I expect as far as quantity / quality on this particular day of the week?

I basically have the whole day free, so what is the best time to visit the club if I want to have 3-4 girls?

This being a club, do / will the girls drink / have a good.

Time with you? Or is it strictly down to business?

What are the odds of getting a threesome? Do you just ask the girl if she has a friend she works.

With? Without knowing any of the girls, what's the best indicator of service quality here? Simply reading the chemistry in conversation or are there red flags I should look out for?

Any responses are very much appreciated!

SRB

[QUOTE=AfterDark240; 1494274]All,

I have read a few of the recent posts, but have some questions for those who are more experienced and familiar.

This will be my first visit to an FKK. I plan on visiting on a Tuesday, what should I expect as far as quantity / quality on this particular day of the week?

I basically have the whole day free, so what is the best time to visit the club if I want to have 3-4 girls?

This being a club, do / will the girls drink / have a good.

Time with you? Or is it strictly down to business?

What are the odds of getting a threesome? Do you just ask the girl if she has a friend she works.

With? Without knowing any of the girls, what's the best indicator of service quality here? Simply reading the chemistry in conversation or are there red flags I should look out for?

Any responses are very much appreciated!

SRB[/QUOTE]I would recommend reading recent reviews about Tuesdays, and if you search this thread, you'll find that questions about line-up on particular day of the week has been asked numerous times. Since it's your first time, you won't be disappointed. Oase is a good choice for new punters to the scene as the transportation to the club is fairly easy to figure out (read the earlier posts and do some search in this thread on how to get to Oase and lodging) , and the line-up is quite large for days such as Tuesdays (although there will be a larger line-up toward the end of the week). No requirement to buy girls drinks (like clubs in other countris) , you can just talk to the girls and see if they would provide the service you are looking for. All girls at minimum should provide BBBJ, multiple positions, DATY, and most will DFK from my experience there. Some girls offer Anal sex and it's 100e extra, and CIM is 50e extra. They will sense that you are new to the club scene, and they will try to up-sell the extra services I just mentioned, and some will try to hustle you. Services such as fingering or balls licking is something they will try to hustle you on, so just try it and see how they react, if they say extra, don't go for it(unless you want to pay that extra), if they try to charge you for those at the end without prior knowledge, don't pay for it, and if they threaten to report to the front desk, let them as there is set rule for those services. If the girl doesn't tell you 30min is up during the session and you go over by around 10min, you don't need to pay as they are required to let you know of the 30min mark. I would recommend a watch. Threesomes are easy to find at Oase, sometimes you'll see two girls approaching men at the club. Also, if you really want girls to approach you (which is common at Oase) , you can sit at the porno theater, and they will come by, and sometimes two of them will approach for threesomes. You're in luck if you are looking for threesomes as they like to approach newbies for threesomes. Given it's your first time, just be aware of the price structure and the expenses for the extras. Many girls will approach, and don't be afraid to say no, so take your time before choosing the girl as there will be many hanging around in different areas, and keep in mind new girls will show up throughout the day, and the line-up peaks around 6-10pm. So if the earlier line-up doesn't do it for you, you can wait a bit for other girls to show up. Just look around and once you spot the one, take her for a spin. One warning, you may find a girl and most likely repeat with her as a first timer, I've read so many reports of that from first timers. Most likely you will find one you will really become fond of as a first timer to a club. I would recommend trying out many girls as you may find better services as you try other girls. If you need to be sure about the service before you choose, you can read the reports about certain girls that may or may not be still attending Oase (as some of the popular girls are reported to be leaving the club) , but good service indicators are something each punters pick up over time. One bad indicator is up-selling before start of the session.

[quote]Without knowing any of the girls, what's the best indicator of service quality here? Simply reading the chemistry in conversation or are there red flags I should look out for?

Any responses are very much appreciated!

SRB[/QUOTE]I don't anything about Tuesdays but I found Wed good from a out 5 pm.

Avoid pushy girls and stick to the polite ones. What which girls seem popular with regular customers and have very good interaction with customer when getting paid. Notice which girls are continually taking customers for just 15 mins. Can ask the customer how was the girl he just paid but if he is a newbie his views may be unreliable.

Be aware of the names of some of the highly recommended girls.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1494092]Ouch reports without specific about girls LOL.

Yes to travel from the USA just to see FKK wives wow kinda feel sorry for you. Should try Tijuana in Mexico. Colombia would be a good destination too.

Syz to me Mainhattan is ok but line up is bellow par compared to Sharks or Oase. Better World IMHO.

I love Sharks now too. Well at least for a Hessen club.

Syzgies are you Asian?[/QUOTE] I am lazy about travel. Can't be bothered to even travel to NRW. I don't like the sound of the ratios between guys and girls at certain clubs like GT, and BB reporting having to leave a club by 7PM before it gets crazy. LOL I like places where there a real lot of girls to choose from and not so many guys. At Sharks and World, there are so many men sitting around not doing a lot of sessions, so plenty of good girls available. I think this has an influence on guys liking the place. At Oase, finding Lavinia available is not so easy these days and a couple years ago finding Lena or Luna available was even tougher.

Thanks for the advice although conflicting a bit with advice from Shark Eater. I guess I will have to try Mainhatten when expected to peak. Just one or two like Roxanna will be good enough for me. Meeting Roxanna at Sharks on day one was fairly convincing. Now have a few other favourites added. Kati who has just moved there from Palace is like a bigger Lavinia although service a little more passive (I don't care) and Maria is the big Russian porn star version of Lavinia. For sure you will like if she has returned from holidays.

No not Asian and I am not telling on the forum because it would be a identifying. I am like the only one from my country. Lets say I am Thai but don't look like one at all.

My company likes to offer me assignments in the US but I resist strongly being very happy with Germany. My work bias for US expired a long while back.

@AfterDark240 and Syz.

Yes, at Oase I mainly observe to spot out the girls. Observing the girl's behavior works, it's the oldest way of getting a sense of people without direct communication. But most probable methods are "probable," sometimes just going for a girl you are attracted works also. I can tell you some of the outliers I've run into by just going for it, such as PHG's Latvian girl with bad vibe but fantastic in the room. At ACA, a Romanian that wasn't too polite outside the room, but was one of the best session I've ever had as a punter. My odds are pretty good with this method as I have about 70% success rate. Observing girls how quickly they come out of the room can be an indicator of either they get the men excited quickly or their service is bad. But if they are not new and repeatedly going in and out, that probably means they get the men exicted even if the session is short. Staying in the room full half hour is good indicator also. I personally don't think interaction at the paylocker reveal much. Oase girls usually have good attitudes with punters, but then you will run into a few that will give you a nasty face when you tell the the famous "maybe later" line. Those are the ones I never went with ever. So politely rejecting them and seeing their attitude could cue you in on how their general attitude would be like. When I first started visiting Oase, I was too afraid to reject the girls so I tried to be very polite, but now I realize that most of them has been working there for years and they are hardened. Also check to see if the BBBJ at the cinema is offered by the girls, I used to take advantage of couch time at the cinema with some kissing and nice relaxing BBBJ. I got to say the girls I've run into at Oase had some good BBBJ skills, no teeth, soft and nice. Hopefully they continuously get new girls with good optics and services as they have in the past. There hasn't been much reports of newer girls, so I'm not having much faith in Oase as of current. One more thing to add, Tuesday is a good day when it comes to ratio of girls to men as not many men are present at the beginning of the week. So more girls will be freed up majority of the time, and you will be approached more often than busier days. Sorry to make this sound like a study. It is quite interesting how things work at these clubs. Maybe one day I would get a grant to attend SCs and FFKs so I can do a study and write a graduate thesis. Get a Phd in FKK punting. lol.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1494388]I am lazy about travel. Can't be bothered to even travel to NRW. I don't like the sound of the ratios between guys and girls at certain clubs like GT, and BB reporting having to leave a club by 7PM before it gets crazy. LOL I like places where there a real lot of girls to choose from and not so many guys. At Sharks and World, there are so many men sitting around not doing a lot of sessions, so plenty of good girls available. I think this has an influence on guys liking the place. At Oase, finding Lavinia available is not so easy these days and a couple years ago finding Lena or Luna available was even tougher.[/QUOTE]Ok, I was wondering why I don't get reports from you on NRW clubs. Even at GT, there are many men that do not go to the room(beer is frei), and even the early week line-up is good and ratio is better. If you haven't been there, and inferring probably isn't sound as actually taking a look yourself. Something I've realized is that reports are reports and what you witness is what you witness. I've been to many clubs and will try others. So, if you haven't been to the NRW, take a shot. I'm interested in your reports on the clubs there. There are clubs in the NRW with plenty of girls / men so no excuses. And the pricing is right. 75 / hour. 50 Anal, and 25 CIM.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker; 1494391] Oase girls usually have good attitudes with punters, but then you will run into a few that will give you a nasty face when you tell the the famous "maybe later" line. Those are the ones I never went with ever. So politely rejecting them and seeing their attitude could cue you in on how their general attitude would be like.[/QUOTE]One guy on a forum even has a handle "Spaeter Vielleicht" (maybe later).

This is a good point. I did not go with Lavinia first time I met her, silly me but definitely took her the following week, likewise I rejected Sylvia (Hun) stupidly the first time, and finally she was best session ever at Oase. Both were very polite of course when initially did not take them. Other girls I have consistently rejected and they wonder why. Sometimes just not my spec (Veronica, Amelia).

Smart girls will know that a guy needs a break, needs time to decide, wants to feel he is making the decision himself, and will best know his girl type. Smart girls also know some tricks to hook the guys in a less direct way.

Watch the girls behaviour. This is more useful than listening to what the girl says. Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear.

[QUOTE=Shark16; 1492159]When in Frankfurt my preference is budget alternatives located close to the clubs as I am just in a hotel / guesthouse to sleep a few hours before I head back to the club / next club anyway. Also, I like the convenience of avoiding the late night travel to downtown. So, for those who are looking for the same I made a report a while ago which I think still stands (pricing mostly in the 35- 50E range). See.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1464-FKK-World-Giessen&p=1204551&viewfull=1#post1204551[/url]

In addition to the hotel / guesthouse alternatives in the report you can add:

- Hotel- Garni "Zum Trunk" in Friedrichsdorf-Köppern just a 10 mnts taxi ride from Oase. Very simple, but adequate (thanks to Bread for that one!). Around 35E I believe it was. Email.

[url]hotel-trunk@t-online.de[/url]

- Zum Grünen Baum in Garbenteich very close to World (as recommended by Syzy and Ortos / Optimist) ; see.

[url]http://www.zumgrünenbaum-pohlheim.de/[/url]

So, local budget alternatives exist for those who want it.

Note: These alternatives are mostly of very modest / simple standard. Also, speaking / writing a little bit of German is a great advantage when trying out the smallest local family hotels / guesthouses (the staff not always used to foreign language clientele). Also note I have never tried out the cheapest alternatives around Hauptbahnhof and therefore I am not able to compare in detail.

Gents who like to travel in style have plenty of other local options both in Bad Homburg and in Giessen of course.[/QUOTE]Trying to book hotel for 1st week of December, the websites (hotels. Com / booking. Com) are showing very high prices-

- Mercure / FRIEDRICHSDORF- $128 / night.

- Best western. $125++/Nt.

- Hotel Union, Munchener Str. (Central Station area)- $134 / Nt.

- ibis Frankfurt Centrum- $180.

The indications I got here in the forum was I should get in 60/70E range ($100<). Am I not doing something right?

What star ratings would imply decent / general amenities? Also what 'areas' should I look at besides 'central station' - what is name for Oase area or World area in hotel site?(Difficult to figure it out on the map)

Thanks

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1494399]Even at GT, there are many men that do not go to the room(beer is frei).[/QUOTE]I guess you mean the beer is free ("kostenlos","kostenfrei". Cost free)?

I can see some guys at Sharks hardly doing a girl (in some cases not one) on Sundays. 40 Euro entry and they can eat food, take a few coffees etc, and do their wellness shit.

I can cook food, make a good coffee, don't see a great reason to cook myself in the sauna, and hate real Thai massage (torture) , so I am definitely there for the sex. Nothing else really matters once there are 3 or more great girls. The cost of course matters.

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1494405]Trying to book hotel for 1st week of December, the websites (hotels. Com / booking. Com) are showing very high prices-

- Mercure / FRIEDRICHSDORF- $128 / night.

- Best western. $125++/Nt.

- Hotel Union, Munchener Str. (Central Station area). $134 / Nt.

- ibis Frankfurt Centrum- $180.

The indications I got here in the forum was I should get in 60/70E range ($100<). Am I not doing something right?

What star ratings would imply decent / general amenities? Also what 'areas' should I look at besides 'central station'. What is name for Oase area or World area in hotel site? (Difficult to figure it out on the map)

Thanks[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1493876][url]Http://www.messefrankfurt.com/content/corporate/frankfurt/en/messe/publikationen/messekalender/[/url]

If FRA isn't your destination city the search Google "city Messe calendar".[/QUOTE]There must be a Messe (or Fair) going on during the week. Edit: Prices are fine, nothing major going on.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1494410]There must be a Messe (or Fair) going on during the week.[/QUOTE]

Some events (nothing that huge I think) however I know the Concorde Hotel is fully booked on Monday 18 Nov. so maybe Food Ingredients fair is big and perhaps EuroMold:

Food Ingredients Europe 2013 Trade fair Germany Frankfurt am Main 19. 11. 2013. 21. 11. 2013
EWEA Offshore 2013 Trade fair Germany Frankfurt am Main 19. 11. 2013. 21. 11. 2013
27. Kongress der DGI: Gemeinsam in die Zukunft. Dialoge an Schnittstellen Congress
Germany Frankfurt am Main 28. 11. 2013. 30. 11. 2013
EuroMold 2013 Trade fair Germany Frankfurt am Main 03. 12. 2013. 06. 12. 2013
Black Sabbath Concert Germany Frankfurt am Main 04. 12. 2013. 04. 12. 2013
8. Deutscher Wirbelsäulenkongress Congress Germany Frankfurt am Main 05. 12. 2013. 07. 12. 2013

Try Trivago website. There are several Frankfurt Hotels starting at 40 Euros a night in that week starting Mon 2 Dec: Central, Alpha, Jaguar, Primus, Aria, etc. May not be right at the Central Rail Station, to get a cheap price. I did not check locations, but most within 2 km and can use the U-Bahn.
If you want a really class Hotel you will have to pay more, but if its just a bed to crash, why pay so much more?

Oase is near to Friedrichsdorf or even nearer to the village of Burgholzhausen.
World is near Giessen (18 Euro cab ride) or very near to the village of Garbenteich (Pohlheim) See www.zumgrünenbaum-pohlheim.de (need to book in advance).

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1494409]I guess you mean the beer is free ("kostenlos","kostenfrei". Cost free)?

I can see some guys at Sharks hardly doing a girl (in some cases not one) on Sundays. 40 Euro entry and they can eat food, take a few coffees etc, and do their wellness shit.

I can cook food, make a good coffee, don't see a great reason to cook myself in the sauna, and hate real Thai massage (torture) , so I am definitely there for the sex. Nothing else really matters once there are 3 or more great girls. The cost of course matters.[/QUOTE]Syz,

This happen in every clubs, the girls told me some men are just coming to the club for food and drinks, chat and feel up the girls, wasting their time but won't session, instead those men go home and jerk off or they might even jerk before coming to the club!

Pathetic, oh well their choice.

Yes, as Syz pointed out, nothing major going on. Look into price comparison websites.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1494413]Some events (nothing that huge I think) however I know the Concorde Hotel is fully booked on Monday 18 Nov.

Try Trivago website. There are several Frankfurt Hotels starting at 40 Euros a night in that week starting Mon 2 Dec: Central, Alpha, Jaguar, Primus, Aria, etc. May not be right at the Central Rail Station, to get a cheap price. I did not check locations, but most within 2 km and can use the U-Bahn.

If you want a really class Hotel you will have to pay more, but if its just a bed to crash, why pay so much more?[/QUOTE]Yes, hotel prices are not bad for that week actually. Quick search to Booking.com shows that rates are pretty typcial of non-major-Messe times.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1494299]if they say extra, don't go for it(unless you want to pay that extra)[/QUOTE]Hey PL,
I agree with 99, 99% of what you are saying, just adding to "unless you want to pay that extra": I think this is a big rookie mistake and would strongly recommend to NEVER yield to paying extra for something that is not considered an extra (ball-licking, fingering, kissing, massage, spanking, toy play). Girls will quickly talk with each other how easy it is to make you pay extra for "nothing" (by creating alternative price lists) , so from then on you will be the target of all the sharks in the club, not only the infamous sharks, but also the "supposed-to-be" nice girls who may also try taking advantage of you. Not a good idea.

Of new girls tried out at Oase in 2013, I had zero rip-offs, 20% were substandard, 50% decent to good, and 30% very good making it to my the reapeat-list. 2013 was no different than previous years. To me.

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1494405]Trying to book hotel for 1st week of December, the websites (hotels. Com / booking. Com) are showing very high prices-

-The indications I got here in the forum was I should get in 60/70E range ($100<). Am I not doing something right?[/QUOTE]I think Syzy and PL have pretty much answered this already. Just confirming that prices quickly rise during big messe (exhibition) events. Also, when I want the best deals I usually book a hotel 2- 3 months in advance (or even more).

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1494409]I guess you mean the beer is free ("kostenlos","kostenfrei". Cost free)?

I can see some guys at Sharks hardly doing a girl (in some cases not one) on Sundays. 40 Euro entry and they can eat food, take a few coffees etc, and do their wellness shit.

I can cook food, make a good coffee, don't see a great reason to cook myself in the sauna, and hate real Thai massage (torture) , so I am definitely there for the sex. Nothing else really matters once there are 3 or more great girls. The cost of course matters.[/QUOTE]Yes, I did mean "free." Yes, I think when I was at Sharks, I may have taken the sausage fest the wrong way, probably the men were just hanging around not going to the room.

If you cook up some nice dishes, I don't see the food being of much concern given you live in FRA. At some clubs in NRW such as GT, LV, and PHG as examples food is pretty well made. At GT and LV, they serve breakfast deli in addition to other european breakfast options, and they have a chef there to cook eggs your way. They have ingredients to cook some delicious omlet. That's not all, the chef is there most of the club opening and well change up what they cook throughout the day. For example, fries and ribs, and soup available with pastries. Also the varieties of beer offered are in bottled form and they are constantly stocked in the fridge for taking. Later at night pizza is available after chef leaves. At PHG during a German holiday, they would bring out snacks at various times. Berliners, pineapples, and etc. Their BBQ is really good also. The services by the management try to provide as cozy atmosphere as possible. And girls there are pretty nice, and men mostly hang around the girls not going to the room frequently. So, no wonder men come to these clubs to just relax and not go to the room.

I will be down at the NRW later this month, if you want to check out the clubs there, I will have a car and can show you around and point you to some nice girls. Unfortunately, you don't accept PM.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;1494405]Trying to book hotel for 1st week of December, the websites (hotels. Com / booking. Com) are showing very high prices.[/QUOTE]I checked some prices just for fun with.

[url]www.booking.com[/url]

I selected a whole week, from Monday 2. Dec until Sunday 8. Dec. 6 nights.

1. Hotel Excelcior, next to main train station in Frankfurt. 420 €, equals 70€/night.

2. Hotel Mercure in Friedrichsdorf. 444 €, equals 74 €/night.

Both medium class hotels. Breakfast was included.

I recommend you to book the hotels quickly before the prices rise.

-Kepp

[QUOTE=SBTiger;1494405]The indications I got here in the forum was I should get in 60/70E range ($100<). Am I not doing something right?[/QUOTE]Frankfurt hotel prices tend to be higher during the week, whilst at weekends the prices drop.

Central hotels will be more popular during December due to visitors from abroad in town for the Christmas markets.

According to a booklet I picked up during a stay at a B&B Hotel they're planning on opening one in Bad Homburg, there is a grey building on the right as you head out of Bad Homburg on the train to Friedrichsdorf, could that be it?

[QUOTE=Ableyone; 1494467]Frankfurt hotel prices tend to be higher during the week, whilst at weekends the prices drop.

Central hotels will be more popular during December due to visitors from abroad in town for the Christmas markets.

According to a booklet I picked up during a stay at a B&B Hotel they're planning on opening one in Bad Homburg, there is a grey building on the right as you head out of Bad Homburg on the train to Friedrichsdorf, could that be it?[/QUOTE]Here is one 12mins from Oase according to G-Maps. [url]https://plus.google.com/103284210814940851144/about?gl=us&hl=en[/url]

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker; 1494471]Here is one 12mins from Oase according to G-Maps.

[url]https://plus.google.com/103284210814940851144/about?gl=us&hl=en[/url][/QUOTE]Thats the closest one if you have a car but its probably a little too remote if using public transport; in which case the B&B Frankfurt West in Eschborn is the closest B&B hotel alternative at the moment.

[QUOTE=Ableyone;1494480]Thats the closest one if you have a car but its probably a little too remote if using public transport; in which case the B&B Frankfurt West in Eschborn is the closest alternative at the moment.[/QUOTE]Yes. 15 mins walk from U-bahn.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps?expflags=enable_star_based_justifications:true&ie=UTF8&cid=16370935410803967814&q=B[/url]%26B+Hotel+Frankfurt-Nord&iwloc=A&gl=US&hl=en

I stayed at this hotel a few years back. Small hotel directly north of Oase, couple of bank machines in the center of town and a few small markets to stock up on supplies. The hotel discounts their rate the longer your stay, they might not bump the price up when the messe is in town (although their website states they do). I actually walked to Oase, enjoying the quiet German countryside and a few good german beers along the way. Taxi ride back was around 8 euro's. The pension wall is closer but there's no atm's or markets from what I could gather. [url]http://www.hotel-romantica.repage3.de/[/url]

I am in Frankfurt Nov 22-24. Had already asked a bunch of silly questions which the senior members answered kindly and patiently. Anyways, mighty excited I should say. Based on all the feedback and what I read, I decided on Oase for Friday Nov 22 and Sharks for Nov 23 Saturday. I am flying out of Frankfurt on Sunday afternoon. I booked throug expedia, always use them, and I booked a room a room at Mercure in Freidrichsdorf for $62 for Friday night and at Ramada Inn in Darmstadt for Saturday night for $72. Both inclusive of taxes. I am guessing I can get a taxi from the hotels to Oase and Sharks w / o too much trouble, am I right?

Anyway, the room prices I got on Expedia are lower than what I hear other people quoting on booking. Com, etc. Also lower than what the hotel websites say themselves.

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1494518]I stayed at this hotel a few years back. Small hotel directly north of Oase, couple of bank machines in the center of town and a few small markets to stock up on supplies. The hotel discounts their rate the longer your stay, they might not bump the price up when the messe is in town (although their website states they do). I actually walked to Oase, enjoying the quiet German countryside and a few good german beers along the way. Taxi ride back was around 8 euro's. The pension wall is closer but there's no atm's or markets from what I could gather.

[url]http://www.hotel-romantica.repage3.de/[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1494704]I am in Frankfurt Nov 22-24. Booked a room a room at Mercure in Freidrichsdorf for $62 for Friday night and at Ramada Inn in Darmstadt for Saturday night for $72. Both inclusive of taxes. I am guessing I can get a taxi from the hotels to Oase and Sharks w / o too much trouble, am I right?

Anyway, the room prices I got on Expedia are lower than what I hear other people quoting on booking. Com, etc. Also lower than what the hotel websites say themselves.[/QUOTE]I am looking at Dec 3 - 6 (weekdays). Looked at Expedia (also). Getting same high rates - Ramada $109, Expedia not showing Mercure at all in Expedia, in Hotwire $147.

The issue also made a little more complex - as unable to understand local geography and German names- 'Old Opera stock exchange area', 'Old Frankfurt', etc. Also planning to use public transport (not wanting to mess with driving/insurance, etc)
Is 'Main Sud' the central station area?

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1494518]I stayed at this hotel a few years back. Small hotel directly north of Oase, couple of bank machines in the center of town and a few small markets to stock up on supplies. The hotel discounts their rate the longer your stay, they might not bump the price up when the messe is in town (although their website states they do). I actually walked to Oase, enjoying the quiet German countryside and a few good german beers along the way. Taxi ride back was around 8 euro's. The pension wall is closer but there's no atm's or markets from what I could gather.

[url]http://www.hotel-romantica.repage3.de/[/url][/QUOTE]This romantica website is totally in German (even Google translate / Chrome unable to help).

I did not think booking a reasonably priced hotel would be such an adventure.

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1494859]I am looking at Dec 3. 6 (weekdays). Looked at Expedia (also). Getting same high rates. Ramada $109, Expedia not showing Mercure at all in Expedia, in Hotwire $147.

The issue also made a little more complex. As unable to understand local geography and German names- 'Old Opera stock exchange area', 'Old Frankfurt', etc. Also planning to use public transport (not wanting to mess with driving / insurance, etc)

Is 'Main Sud' the central station area?

This romantica website is totally in German (even Google translate / Chrome unable to help).

I did not think booking a reasonably priced hotel would be such an adventure.[/QUOTE]Hi Tiger,

I am using frequently trivago. Com. They harvest a variety of websites. Just tried Bad Homburg on 3-6 Dec returning hotels starting at 69$ a night. For this part of Germany that is quite reasonable.

C.

[QUOTE=SBTiger;1494859]I am looking at Dec 3 - 6 (weekdays). Looked at Expedia (also). Getting same high rates - Ramada $109, Expedia not showing Mercure at all in Expedia, in Hotwire $147.[/QUOTE]Where exactly do you want to stay? I would check.

[url]www.hrs.de[/url]

Shows hotel from 50 EUR per night in FFM for these dates. Available in English.

HB

[QUOTE=Casey69; 1494896]Hi Tiger,

I am using frequently trivago. Com. They harvest a variety of websites. Just tried Bad Homburg on 3-6 Dec returning hotels starting at 69$ a night. For this part of Germany that is quite reasonable.

C.[/QUOTE]Booked thru Trivago - Hotel for 3 Nts. Central Frankfurt, Oskar von Millerstrasse 12, Frankfurt for $65 / Nt BF Incl. It has mixed reviews (incl bad area 'next to strip club / brothel' wow).

Does not appear too far from Trains (0. 8 mi)- still could be a late night cold walk.

The Cxln policy indicated (if I understood right)- I can Cxl before arrival (with only $30 fee) or I think can Cxl after a day of stay without fee.

So will be there- Oase / Sharks- wherever.

Still to plan / execute the next leg- Frankfurt to Vienna (got to go to GT) travel- one way flights nothing below $200 over night trains E95. I did not book this leg expecting to use local travel means- so will have to figure out.

Any wing men for these days 3rd-6th Dec? (PM me)

Thanks all again very very much.

Sam

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1494704]I am in Frankfurt Nov 22-24. Had already asked a bunch of silly questions which the senior members answered kindly and patiently. Anyways, mighty excited I should say. Based on all the feedback and what I read, I decided on Oase for Friday Nov 22 and Sharks for Nov 23 Saturday.[/QUOTE]You itinerary is very similar to mine, but I am more inclined to go for Sharks on Nov 22 and then probably Oase on Nov 23 or might skip Oase this time around. I fly out on the 23rd.

[QUOTE=Shark16;1483402]Looks good. Body still smoking. Decent service. High in demand. Daniela has still black hair. I never checked if she now uses a different name.[/QUOTE]I also saw Daniela back in October too. She said she had been home in Romania for one year and then came back to work at Oase. Body was still trim and she felt good to touch. She is so nice and warm and really gives a warm feeling when you have your arm around her. Still seems up for business and loves to have her ass licked. Seems that turns her on big time.

I always remembered Daniela from her days at Living Room where she was beloved of the locals there.

[QUOTE=Shark16;1494420]Of new girls tried out at Oase in 2013, I had zero rip-offs, 20% were substandard, 50% decent to good, and 30% very good making it to my the reapeat-list. 2013 was no different than previous years. To me.[/QUOTE]In first half of 2013 I was saying that Oase had definitely improved over late 2012. I think it just depends on the luck of girl selection to some extent. I am sure there were plenty of suspect girls. However regulars like myself can spend a very long time sizing up girls carefully before deciding to try them, meanwhile just doing their regular known great girls. I also had very few substandard sessions.

Recently, it dropped from favouritism for me due to several favourite girls leaving or disappearing, and due to finding the odd stunner at a competition club.

I don't know what all the fuss is with the food at Oase. The quality of the thin crust freshly baked pizza out of the clay oven is better than the shite from these other pizza chains.

So, I read quite a few comments about other clubs, and just got me thinking.

For those of you who have been to multiple clubs in the Frankfurt area, whatwould you suggest as the best to visit if it were your first time visiting a FKK, and why?

You are the second person to mention the awful idea that the measly pizza, instead of the options previously available, as a good idea. I don't own stock in the place, I am a customer, and a good one, so I can tell you what I think, IMHO. Anyone, who enjoys getting their money's worth for goods and services, knows that this is a RAW DEAL. Period. Nickel and diming your customer base over what was once included in the already high price of admission, is a sure fire recipe for loss revenue. Yes, I know; they are still big and bad, but in the long run, it will not be create revenue growth. There is way too much competition. People talk, there is the internet. Like me, a bunch of us make informed choices. I predict that a change in services should take place inside of 3 years unless uninformed tourists continue to flock there without comparing venues prior to paying a visit. I was planning on visiting the place; however, due to the changes, I don't care if they have "Miss Fill In The Blank" selling her goods there, I won't visit this place unless there is a drastic change; too many other great spots all over the Frankfurt area.

[QUOTE=Simex;1495171]I don't know what all the fuss is with the food at Oase. The quality of the thin crust freshly baked pizza out of the clay oven is better than the shite from these other pizza chains.[/QUOTE]

To add, there are some reports of girls leaving the club because of drop in clientel, and girls complaining that number of customers are decreasing. Also, the restraunt adds additional expenses for those that stay at the club for a long time. I've met many punters that likes to stay at the club for long duration, not sure what they think of the changes. The pizza of same quality can be had for 4 or 5e at any pizza place outside the club. Sharks has same quality pizza for free in addition to other food offerings and meals. And I won't need to go into quality of food service at other clubs for lower entry price as I have posted earlier.

Don't mind Simex, it's always one liners that he should keep to himself that add no info of value to this thread.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1495198]I was planning on visiting the place; however, due to the changes, I don't care if they have "Miss Fill In The Blank" selling her goods there, I won't visit this place unless there is a drastic change; too many other great spots all over the Frankfurt area.[/QUOTE]Each to there own. I did not stay away from Oase merely because the food was bad. I think the Spezial Pizza is good. I don't need huge quantities of food. To fill in the blank, if Sylvia of Hungary comes back I will be there like a shot. If Catalina works there I will be there. So will many others.

Some guys will there for Alexia, or Carla, or Lavinia, etc.

In the end, it's the girls that matter. So for me the only problem is not enough GFE stunners. It's how many girls that you badly want to fuck. If other clubs have super girls Oase needs to have better.

[QUOTE=AfterDark240; 1495191]So, I read quite a few comments about other clubs, and just got me thinking.

For those of you who have been to multiple clubs in the Frankfurt area, whatwould you suggest as the best to visit if it were your first time visiting a FKK, and why?[/QUOTE]Please Ask this in the Lounge, as this thread has been side tracked with too many unnecessary posts that could have been researched from prior posts or asked in the travel information thread. I would recommend the FRA clubs for first timers. I personally started out at Oase, but Sharks seems to be more popular right now.

SBTiger, next time, please ask in the travel information thread(it's down in the user threads section) regarding lodging and like similar.

I see that you all currently are busy discussing important topics like food and accomodation, but I thought you might enjoy me sharing my experiences from last night at the Oase with you. .

I arrived in the club at 5 pm, had a quick shower and headed to the lounge to scout for gazelles. I would have to say that the number of talent is pretty much like it has always been but perhaps with a slight decline in quality since my last visit during summer. This is just my third visit to the club and although it still gives me what I'm looking for I do appreciate some variety and find myself looking for something different / new. Rather strange when you are surrounded by striking naked bodies, but there you go. I loved the feeling I got on my first visit to Oase when there was an abundance of pussy I wanted to fuck, the delightful sensation of turning a corner and discover yet another body even hotter than the one you just had your eye on. Now I feel there are not so many surprises anymore and that spoils the experience for me a bit.

I recognized at least half of the girls from my previous visits. Unfortunately I could see no 10's around (my standard is very high) , but enough doable girls for all. One of the girls said that 95% were Romanian, but who cares as long as they look like your neighbours daughter? I'm not good with names, but one of the twins were there (Irene?) , the other one has apparently been deemed persona non grata by Mauro, unknown for what reason. Deborah, the redheaded Barbie-doll was there. So was the Elisha Cutberth look-alike. After a few minutes I noticed a tall, slender figure I fondly remembered from my last visit and I wasted no time.

Entrée.

Julia. 21 from Romania. Face 8, Body 9, Service 8. She definitely is one of the skinniest girls in the joint but, even if slim beauties are my thing, she is almost too thin. But an elegant creature I had fun with last time so I wanted a repeat session with. She has a very pleasant personality and gives a nice performance, one can drown in her smile and deep brown eyes. I would call it great GFE was it not for the fact that she doesn't do DFK. But neither do I so no problemo for me. After some initial chat she gave me a sloppy CBJ, then we moved into mish and then doggy. The sight of my dick between her tight asscheeks was a sight to behold, and fortunately I had the presence of mind to take a few mental snapshots for later enjoyment. I then had her stand up against the wall while I fucked her from behind. Back on the bed I had her ride me cowgirl before I decided it was time to give her my load. As expected, she thought COF sounded like a great idea, but the implementation of it wasn't really optimal. She instructed me not to come in her eyes or her hair as she previously had experienced sore eyes from getting sperm in her eye. I call it bullshit as it is just a measure to avoid having to fix hair / makeup after session. Anyway, had to accommodate her request and we ended up discussing which position I should be in relative to her face and mouth to ensure a reliable end result. Should my dick be below her chin pointing up? Parallell to her mouth? 90 degrees pointing up? This quickly transformed the whole thing in to some technical geometry exercise that was a bit of a mood killer. The ideal COF should be like, 'oh crap – I can't hold back any more, I'm going to come one your face now, here – take it you dirty *'. I still gave her my moneys worth though, I had been saving up for a couple of days so there was spunk all over her young face and mouth. In all the right places. Oh – and I got complimented on the taste of my semen. Maybe I should add that my sperm tastes good to my internet dating profile. Felt a little cheated when we passed the one hour mark (mainly because of a cigarette) without her telling me, but I still paid her the 200 she requested. May not repeat in the future because of that.

Main Course.

Vanessa. 23 from Romania. Face 7, Body 8, Service 7. Observing from behind a table in the smoking lounge I suddenly noticed the contours of a gorgeous body glide through the crowd. I put out my cigarette and went in hot pursuit but wanted to check out the face in normal lighting before closing the deal. Sometimes the darkness can hide attributes that make you regret your hasty decision when you get to the room. She had small tits and not the best of faces (still better than most) but is a blonde with a smoking tight body. Since this was a spur of the moment thing I hadn't had the chance to talk to her before we went to the room. I'm used to most of the girls being quite able in English, but after telling her where I was from I could tell by the dumbfounded look on her face and her meaningless reply that conversation was not in scope for this session. So I switched to the universal language of sex, pointed to my dick and ordered a blowjob. It was very efficient and professional, I'll give her that. She was skilled in her handicraft and we went through CBJ, cowgirl, doggy and mish in a flash. Felt quite good too, her ass is soo fab, but without the chemistry it does become somewhat mechanical. So I ended up having to jerk myself close to orgasm, and then she brought me over the top. In a strange way it was sort of a turn on the way she looked indifferently at me when I jerked off in front of her. I much prefer real feelings to the cheesy faked phrases of the 'oh please – I wan't you to come for me' kind. Will most likely not repeat if alternatives exist, but if I can't find a decent fuck anywhere else then I know I can get a professional bang from her. Damage only 50 Euro. A lot of bang (pun intented) for the buck.

Dessert.

Lea. 24 from Croatia. Face 7, Body 6, Service 8. I had been approached by a girl in the lounge earlier and when I politely told her that I was not interested in a session at that point she convinced me that she really was just interested in contact. So I joined her for dinner and we made conversation for an hour. She studies tourism in Zagreb and has a 4 month break from her studies and made this her career of choice during this time. She has previously been working 3 weeks in Mainhattan but moved to Oase this week. She'll be her until February, then never to return. Even if she wasn't the best looker in the place I found her interesting because of her freshness and that she isn't as battle-hardened as most other girls are. So I took her as my last girl on a hunch. We continued chatting in the room for almost one hour while she just cuddled with me and gave me a light massage. I had only 5 hours in the club and I really need some more time if I am to accomplish 3 pops. She told me what it felt like for her when she had her first client, it was difficult for her to cope with. All these real emotions were again a turn on for me and I asked her to put my dick in her mouth (in a nice way). It was quite charming to see how she struggled to put on the condom on my initial limp dick. Where other girls are experts at this, I ended up having to help myself. But her mouth made my junior come back to life. So much that I told her I wanted to fuck her tight pussy with my throbbing dick (in a nice way). She was very tight and it felt really good doggy style, she seemed to enjoy it also and pulled me in her repeatedly. But I had to conclude without a happy ending as I was running out of time if I was to catch the last train to Frankfurt, my member was all spent anyway. Stayed a bit over an hour, paid her 150, I hope she earns well during her stay at Oase. Will not repeat, but great novelty value, I don't regret my choice.

So, what's next? Probably not Oase. I've heard good things about World so I'll probably head there next time. But come summer I'll definitely be back to enjoy the garden and bugger the new fresh pussy arrivals from Romania.

[QUOTE=HockeyPuck821; 1497319]I see that you all currently are busy discussing important topics like food and accomodation, but I thought you might enjoy me sharing my experiences from last night at the Oase with you. .[/QUOTE]Finally a recent trip report from Oase among all the hotel and transit talk. Thanks for that.

Beffen

The line up by 2pm was already significantly larger than Sharks at its peak yesterday. It was also a good day for me as all my regulars, less Lavinia, were present and I did 5 in a row without the need to try any of the new girls. No reports to make though as these 5 have been well reported on before.

Irene's twin, together with Amanda and 2 others, were reportedly booted out for chatting together somewhere outside instead of tending to customers.

[QUOTE=TankTank123; 1497510]The line up by 2pm was already significantly larger than Sharks at its peak yesterday. It was also a good day for me as all my regulars, less Lavinia, were present and I did 5 in a row without the need to try any of the new girls. No reports to make though as these 5 have been well reported on before.

Irene's twin, together with Amanda and 2 others, were reportedly booted out for chatting together somewhere outside instead of tending to customers.[/QUOTE]TT,

Were you able to find Elizabeth? Also, Did you see Alicja (Pol) and Roxanne (Mol with amazing Ass!) during your visit?

I heard the lounge where the old sauna used to be is now complete, anything you can tell about this unique space?

W.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;1497510]Irene's twin, together with Amanda and 2 others, were reportedly booted out for chatting together somewhere outside instead of tending to customers.[/QUOTE]Seriously? Booted for chatting outside? What is this? A prison camp or an FKK?

Treating the girls like they're in a gulag will only drive them away. Mauro just keeps making their lives more and more unpleasant. I just hope he doesn't drive the good girls away.

Irene's twin gave good service too. That's a loss for the club. As for Amanda, I won't shed any tears when I don't find her there, but I suspect that driving her away could encourage her friends to jump ship with her since that group of girls were sort of joined at the hip so-to-speak.

My Oase passes are almost exhausted. I will soon be considering dropping Oase off of my favorites list.

[QUOTE=Wassab; 1497561]TT,

Were you able to find Elizabeth? Also, Did you see Alicja (Pol) and Roxanne (Mol with amazing Ass!) during your visit?

I heard the lounge where the old sauna used to be is now complete, anything you can tell about this unique space?

W.[/QUOTE]Yes, Alicia was present, but she might be retiring soon. I have not yet identified Elizabeth, and I do not recall seeing Roxanne yesterday; but since there were 100+ girls and I was in the room most of the time, maybe I just did not spot her.

New structure is finished but not open. I saw Mauro gesticulating towards the structure with 2 men who look like contractors, so maybe there are defects.

[QUOTE]What is this? A prison camp or an FKK?[/QUOTE]Interestingly. 2 of my regulars yesterday also used the word 'Prison Camp'. One also mentioned that like in prison camps, food cannot be brought in, and that they would be booted out if they even take a morsel of food from a 'visitor's meal!

Maybe there are aspirations / pretensions to turn Oase into an upmarket club like Globe? Globe comes to my mind as it has an Italian restaurant. Also, Globe has a rule that the girls must at all times sit in the visible areas and make themselves available to customers.

There are some critical differences though:

In Globe, the receptionist gives out robes in a pleasant setting, while in Oase, you have to wait for the bartender to have free time to give you the robe and towel, and crouch to hunt for slippers of the correct size.

In Globe, the receptionist controls the keys, ensures that the girl has given you the full stipulated time, and asks for immediate feedback whether the session was OK. In Oase, an attempt was made in the first few days of the new key system to keep track which girl had taken the keys. But the system has broken down, the recording has ceased, and last night keys were passed from one girl to another as in most peak periods.

In Globe, the restaurant is in an ornate quiet resplendent Italian-like hall. In Oase, the restaurant is in, er, the noisy, crowded entrance to the girls changing room.

I just hope that Oase does not take next step of raising prices to Globe standards. A management consultant might well advise that to achieve Globe standards in girl quality, the prices the girls charge should go up so that better girls would be attracted to come here, and the scums would be gradually purged away whenever caught chatting or when they lose their shape.

Oase cannot be like Globe in Zurich. Globe is in Zurich where the prices are much higher for services, and Oase is in Germany where you have many economical club alternatives. If that's what their intentions are, it's the wrong place to do so, they should move to Zurich first.

Oase in view of facilities and staff services, it's rather crude compared to other clubs like GT, LR, PHG, and etc. It would take alot of work to get up to that level. I don't foresee them reaching that level.

Main reason I used to go there is the girls, and the behavior of the girls were noticeably different than other clubs, and little after I figured out the rules are stricter for the girls there compared to Palace for example, which is probably on the opposite side of the spectrum.

The girls rules are different for clubs, GT has rules also but they focus on different aspects. Girls get thrown out there also.

If the the girl's services are high, customers will come, and if customers will come, girls will come also.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;1497626]In Globe, the receptionist controls the keys, ensures that the girl has given you the full stipulated time, and asks for immediate feedback whether the session was OK. In Oase, an attempt was made in the first few days of the new key system to keep track which girl had taken the keys. But the system has broken down, the recording has ceased, and last night keys were passed from one girl to another as in most peak periods.[/QUOTE]This is an interesting point, didn't really think about this. I've noticed that some clubs girls do stay until the half hour is up, and most likely because they must receive the key and etc. Not always the case, Palace they ask for key also, but I don't think girls has to stay full half hour.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1497632]Palace they ask for key also, but I don't think girls has to stay full half hour.[/QUOTE]In Palace, the keys are controlled by the room cleaning controller, positioned at the spot between the rooms and the main lounge, who gets a cleaner to change the sheets when the key is returned, before replacing the key on the key hooks. I do not notice the time being recorded. Anyway, the girls normally finish processing the customers within 15 minutes most of the time. However, I did get my full hour with Vanessa on Friday night.

I asked Amalia (no Roxy at Sharks) if she liked Sharks better. Yes much better for her. I asked why and was surprised by the answer. She said there were too many bad girls at Oase these days and that that was affecting the mix of customers. Did not mention the rules, food, etc. She may even have more customers at Sharks. The customers at Sharks are a better group and she gets more repeat customers. Her close friends Anita (Chris / Bianca) and Michaela (Helen) are also liking Sharks more.

I think this is the key. Better girls are moving from Oase to get to a club where they are more happy with the setup and the customers.

Lavinia has a strong will and is able to completely ignore other girls' bad attitudes and provide a good attitude herself, which is why she now makes so much money at Oase. The really busy girls can do extremely well at Oase and hence are reluctant to leave unless they can make same money at another club.

I remember in the past when Kimmi (Bra) moved from Palace to Oase stating that she could not stand the girls at the Palace any longer.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1497683]She said there were too many bad girls at Oase these days and that that was affecting the mix of customers.[/QUOTE]True. Amanda finally had to leave Oase (that's what I heard) and is now working at World. She and her close friends were the worst girls at Oase for a loooong time and Mauro didn't take any action against it. On the contrary, he even threw girls out Amanada and friends were complaining about.

Re facilities: I don't see that facilities at Oase are on a lower level than Living Room.

HB

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1497683]I asked Amalia (no Roxy at Sharks) if she liked Sharks better.[/QUOTE]Should have read Amalia who is now called Roxy at Sharks. I should have added that most/many of Amalia's regular customers at Oase are happy enough to see her now at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1497699]True. Amanda finally had to leave Oase (that's what I heard) and is now working at World. She and her close friends were the worst girls at Oase for a loooong time and Mauro didn't take any action against it. On the contrary, he even threw girls out Amanada and friends were complaining about.

Re facilities: I don't see that facilities at Oase are on a lower level than Living Room.

HB[/QUOTE]Many free types of beer, free wifi, eggs cooked to order in the morning, snakcks in the afternoon, a normal meal and a past choice each day, pizza at night. The only thing that works the other way is the swimming pool. Don't try to compare what you get in Hessen with LR / GT / PHG. The Hessen clubs will invariably lose out.

[QUOTE=Free Dude;1497738]Many free types of beer, free wifi, eggs cooked to order in the morning, snakcks in the afternoon, a normal meal and a past choice each day, pizza at night. The only thing that works the other way is the swimming pool. Don't try to compare what you get in Hessen with LR / GT / PHG. The Hessen clubs will invariably lose out.[/QUOTE]I was just talking facilities. Rooms, number of rooms, garden, swimming pool, sauna, steam bath, size in general, lockers. Not food, not WiFi, not free beverages. Not pricing. And I haven't been at Oase for pover 10 weeks, that hasn't happened at all in the last 12 years.

HB

Hi,

Is Andrea is here these last days? (Romanian 24, brown olive skin, brown hairs, long nose, with a tatoo (Angel's wings in the back).

Thank you

I think that the demand is rather inelastic. For people like me it is rather irrelevant if the cover charge is 70 or 100 Euro, the travel costs and the amount I spend on zimmers are the major expenses anyway. Personally I think the restaurant is a definite improvement and the new room where guys can relax in beds and cozy sofas is a big plus.

Anyhow. I still have a few fantasies to fulfill and one of them is a lesbian show, I just haven't been bothered setting it up before, I suspect it would be a disappointment. On Saturday Julia told me she does a lesbian show with her good friend Alexia (with glasses) only. Has any of you had any personal experiences with them together? It would set me back 300 Euros so it would be good to know if it is likely to be a dud.

[QUOTE=Wassab;1497561]TT, Were you able to find Elizabeth?.[/QUOTE]Hi Wassab,

I replied to you this morning that I had still not managed to find her after all these months. When I got to Oase this afternoon, bathed and went to sit in the lounge, a girl immediately came up to me and said "hello, I am Elizabeth". What a great service you provided all the way from Canada to get her to report to me! She was, however, disappointingly not much of a kisser, but she looked very beautiful in a classic way.

[QUOTE=TankTank123; 1497928]Hi Wassab,

I replied to you this morning that I had still not managed to find her after all these months. When I got to Oase this afternoon, bathed and went to sit in the lounge, a girl immediately came up to me and said "hello, I am Elizabeth". What a great service you provided all the way from Canada to get her to report to me! She was, however, disappointingly not much of a kisser, but she looked very beautiful in a classic way.[/QUOTE]TT,

I am glad you were able to find Elizabeth without even trying this time, LOL. She tends to wear a nice slinky satin black panties and most noticeably, she has flying hummingbird tattoo on her right shoulder.

It's interesting that you said that about Elizabeth specifically in the kissing department but my experiences with her has been completely the opposite or 100% GFE. Aside from her passionate kissing with DFK, she gives one of the best BBBJ that I ever experienced in the FKK-land. Elizabeth is not only pretty but she also has a friendly demeanor, very approachable. I look forward in spending more time with the gal when I return next Spring.

For Alicja, she told me a few months back that she is planning to retire but before transitioning to a normal life she may work at Oase either as a waitress or in the bar. I just hope I can get back to Oase before she hangs up that garter belt of her for good.

Thanks for the intel and glad you finally found Elizabeth.

BTW, If you are heading up to World this week then you may bump into a (temporarily) former girl of Bernds.

W

Elizabeth told me that she was definitely retiring in 2 months time as she would have reached her financial target by then. Thus, you might not get to see her next spring. She was certainly friendly and approachable. It could be an off day for her as she looked zonked out.

Alicia told me 2 years ago that she was going to retire last year. Last year she said she was going to retire this year. As she does not have any financial targets and seems to like this kind of life and pampering outside these 4 walls, I think you will still have a reasonable chance of seeing her next year.

Christmas decorations were being put up yesterday. Many of the 9 girls I was with the last 2 days moaned that Mauro had declared that any girl who is absent from the party in mid December would not be allowed back in the club. They said that when they protested that they had already made holiday plans, Mauro replied that that was their problem and not his. It seems that some of them are now checking around to see whether there would be a reasonably huge absentee list such that they cannot then all be sacked.

So for those of you planning to come to the party, it might be a 100% turnout if they believe his threat, or very few if there is a mass walkout.

[QUOTE=HockeyPuck821;1497907]I think that the demand is rather inelastic. For people like me it is rather irrelevant if the cover charge is 70 or 100 Euro, the travel costs and the amount I spend on zimmers are the major expenses anyway.[/QUOTE]For regulars living in Germany there is a difference. Just a short example: Oase does rarely have the 6for5 deal. So let's say you buy the 6 tickets, that's 58 EUR for entry. Another 15 EUR for some additional food. 10 EUR for one beer. Sums up to 83 EUR. At World beer and food are free, if you buy 10 tickets the price comes down to 47, 50 EUR. So if you do one visit per week or more this is relevant. Plus that currently service level at World is reported to be significantly higher than at Oase.

[QUOTE=HockeyPuck821;1497907]On Saturday Julia told me she does a lesbian show with her good friend Alexia (with glasses) only. Has any of you had any personal experiences with them together? It would set me back 300 Euros so it would be good to know if it is likely to be a dud.[/QUOTE]For me both girls do only give average or sub average service. I don't fuck them anymore and so I wouldn't take them for a threesome including an overrated expensive lesbo show. My 2 cents.

HB

[QUOTE]It's interesting that you said that about Elizabeth specifically in the kissing department but my experiences with her has been completely the opposite or 100% GFE. Aside from her passionate kissing with DFK, she gives one of the best BBBJ that I ever experienced in the FKK-land. Elizabeth is not only pretty but she also has a friendly demeanor, very approachable. I look forward in spending more time with the gal when I return next Spring.

W[/QUOTE]I found Elizabeth to be a very good GFE also.

Does anyone know the exact date for the Christmas party and if Polish brunette Yulia and the infamous Fidan still walk the corridors of Oase? Finally I understand from the 70 euro entrance 10 is allocated for food any extra you pay yourself. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong and give me an idea what food is available at what prices. last time i was there in july i do not think the food system was fully operational I touch down in Frankfurt on the 9th dec. Upon which my Hessen-Berlin stilleto and lip gloss adventure will commence!!!lol

For €10. Mainly Pizza's and Pasta. Their Pizza's are great though!

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1498333]Does anyone know the exact date for the Christmas party and if Polish brunette yulia and the infamous fidan still walk the corridors of oase? Finally I understand from the 70 euro entrance 10 is allocated for food any extra you pay yourself. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong and give me an idea what food is available at what prices. last time i was there in july i do not think the food system was fully operational I touch down in frankfurt on the 9th dec. Upon which my hessen-berlin stilleto and lip gloss adventure will commence!!!lol[/QUOTE]

Am I right that you get 10euros of food included in the entrance fee. Don't want to look puzzled when I arrive.

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1498373]Am I right that you get 10euros of food included in the entrance fee. Don't want to look puzzled when I arrive.[/QUOTE]Yup. And stick with the pizzas.

Bring protein bar into the club like I did if you don't want to spend money on food.

Be careful of new girls this Oase is no longer the same!

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1498373]Am I right that you get 10euros of food included in the entrance fee. Don't want to look puzzled when I arrive.[/QUOTE]The process is very simple but the choices are limited. You previously had to pay 65 for entrance fee and now you have to pay 70. With this fee, you get two wrist bands, one for proof of payment and the other is for your ONE meal. The meal choices are:

- if you choose to eat lunch buffet then that will cost you your one meal wrist band.

- if you choose to tough it out and save the wrist band for dinner then it can be traded in for a pizza or

- use the wrist band value (10 euros) towards other a la cart dishes such as specialty pastas etc.

Some have argued that the premium a la carts are not really worth the noted price which can range from 15 euros to 27 euros (if I recall)

Don't make a foolish mistake by attending the lunch buffet at 15:45 because at 16:00 they will clear the buffet table to get ready for dinner. Remember one bowl of cereal can cost you your lone wrist band so use it wisely.

Food has never been my concern but is for others. I usually have a nice meal in my hotel or by the train station before heading to Oase which tends to carry me over well the 18:00 mark. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=HockeyPuck821;1497907]Anyhow. I still have a few fantasies to fulfill and one of them is a lesbian show, I just haven't been bothered setting it up before, I suspect it would be a disappointment. On Saturday Julia told me she does a lesbian show with her good friend Alexia (with glasses) only. Has any of you had any personal experiences with them together? It would set me back 300 Euros so it would be good to know if it is likely to be a dud.[/QUOTE]I tried having a session with Alexia but she tried to scam me for 300E by trying to sell me a package in the kino. At that point I aborted. You rarely get a good session when a gal has already decided what you should pay her in advance. Not recommended.

Mohab, you stress way too much over your trips. Go with the flow and let things fall where they may. I make quick agendas before I leave too but they never go as planned.

[QUOTE=Akibono;1498411]I tried having a session with Alexia but she tried to scam me for 300E by trying to sell me a package in the kino.[/QUOTE]WTF was Alexia trying to upsell for 300 euro? Glad I have never experienced that stuff with her.

[QUOTE=Akibono;1498411]I tried having a session with Alexia but she tried to scam me for 300E by trying to sell me a package in the kino. At that point I aborted. You rarely get a good session when a gal has already decided what you should pay her in advance. Not recommended.[/QUOTE]You did the right thing, walk away and grab her friend just for good measure. That doesn't mean you avoid her on future visits.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1493061]I can understand that the cabbies will lie or take longer routes intentionally, but are of them violent and rob passengers, especially foreigners who don't speak German. Oase is so out of the way, I hear fields around, I imagine there is hardly anyone around to help in the night if the cabbie decides to pull a gun on you.

Silly question I am sure, but I have lived in some sleazy places I guess.[/QUOTE]As others have said, it is near impossible to find gun toting taxi drivers in Germany.

I had a taxi driver take the express way (Autobahn) , that is more miles and thus more Euros then the direct slow streets. From Bad Homburg to Oase. This is about as far as problems might go.

Do not worry. The cab drivers are highly regulated and licensed in germany and even have to take an exam to get on the road. They would not dare contemplate hurting a passenger as this would mean prison. The worst thing that can happen is that they tell you the train has stopped at 5am but you insist on going to the train station. Chill out and enjoy the wildlife on display. You are in germany a leading G5 nation and not in the ghetto projects! LOL

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1499123]Do not worry. The cab drivers are highly regulated and licensed in germany and even have to take an exam to get on the road. They would not dare contemplate hurting a passenger as this would mean prison. The worst thing that can happen is that they tell you the train has stopped at 5am but you insist on going to the train station. Chill out and enjoy the wildlife on display. You are in germany a leading G5 nation and not in the ghetto projects! LOL[/QUOTE]The only time a cab driver used the most efficient route back to Frankfurt was when we reached a fixed price deal. They like to use routes that burn extra kilometres.
The best route typically if on a meter is turn left at Ober Erlenbach and go to the B3. Very fast from there and relatively straight.

i just came back from my first trip in germany.

i stayed in a hotel near frankfurt central station (frankfurt hauptbahnhof) as my strategic base, and i visited the red light district (twice) , fkk oase (once) , fkk dietzenbach (once) , fkk sharks (twice) via the convenient public transportation from frankfurt hbf, and then i either walk or take a taxi directly to the fkk clubs.

i will post my fkk reports in the specific different club section.

since there's no "red light district" section in this forum, i just post the red light district experience here with my oase report.

"oase report"

12. 11. 13 tuesday.

get into oase at about 5pm, and left just about 11pm, because i lost my mood after one shitty session and one so-so session in oase.

first one was carly, from italy. she approached me appeared to be kind and honest in the kino.

after we go to the room, everything changed.

she started to explain "her rules":"50eur for suck and only hand job"and"100eur for suck and nice fuck. etc bullshit "

i was a bit shocked at this kind of attitude change, and replied:"well, but 50eur should include suck and fuck."

she replied:"no. 50eur is just hand job."

i started to show my unhappiness, i said:" everyone says 50 eur is for suck and fuck! fuck is included in the 50 eur!"

she then replied with embarrassment:"yes, but just a little bit fuck. nothing more."

at that point, i should just stop the deal and report this cheating scam to the oase reception! this girl actually tell lies to cheat customers! 50eur for hand job only? it's not about upselling or making business, it's cheating and scam!

however, i must be out of my mind at that time. i told her to finish the 50eur service. and she was totally silent and acted like a dead fish since she failed to scam me, so i was like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] a silent dead body. wtf!

finally i cum, but with a bad mood.

paid her 50eur and end this shit. (oh right, she dare to ask for tip after trying to scam me and offer all these shitty service and attitude. totally unbelievable!)

later, meet the second girl, alexia, from romania (with glasses).

she looked nice in the lounge, and when entering the room, she started to upselling me the 100eur session. i replied that i want the 50 eur session only, and she was fine with that. (good thing is that at least she didn't try to cheat me)

she actually did all the jobs, and at least, this time, i cum with a comfortable mood.

she asked for tip when i was getting my wallet. like i said, at least this time i cum with a comfortable mood, so i paid her 50eur+5eur.

i don't have much mood to stay in oase after one shitty sesssion and a so-so session, so i just left oase.

yes, oase did have the largest line-ups, but i guess i was just not lucky enough to meet the right one.

"frankfurt red light district report"

11. 11. 13 monday.

at elbestrasse 53 (komm or crazy sexy) , i found bianca, from romania.

she charged 50eur for basic suck and fuck.

yes, i know the price should not be more than 30eur. however, i'm asian and i cannot speak any german, which just showed those sharky prostitutes that i am a tourist target for rip-off.

i then asked her about the details (take off all the clothes, change position, how long the time is. etc) , she all agreed. in this kind of situation. 50eur is still reasonable, so i take the deal.

she did do everything she promised. although it is a little bit mechanical, but it was good enough to pleasure me.

in sum, not bad, but didn't worth for coming back again.

14. 11. 13 thursday.

at taunusstrasse 34 (rotes haus)

i made the biggest mistake of my whole trip to meet jasmin, from germany.

i asked everything before entering the room, but fuck! i just forget to ask "can i change position?"

after i went into the room, she insisted that 50eur includes only covered blowjob and the cowgirl position only. if i want to do the doggystyle position, it is 100eur extra! coverd blowjob was reasonable, but where the fuck the 100eur for doggystyle position came from! (extra 100eur for a doggystyle vaginal penetration? i am really sure that there's no such rule in the whole world!)

she kept saying that she is german, and that's why she's special and deserve more money. etc bullshit. (judging from her hair, she is definitely not ethnically german. so, she probably means she get the germany id or something, but it doesn't matter at all, because all she said were just bullshit.)

i realized she just wanted to make me suffer and then rip me off, so i told her to finish the original 50eur service and then i will leave at once.

however, after she failed to rip me off extra 100eur, she then started to persuade me to pay extra 50eur to "let me see something special".

i really lost my mood for sex after she made up so many bullshit and trying to cheat me and rip me off, so i told her to stop, stand up, put on my clothes, and leave right away. yes, i would rather give up the 50eur i have paid than suffer from this kind of shit service and attitude.

and you know what? when i was putting on my clothes, she still kept saying that she's german, she's special, so she deserved more money. etc bullshit. totally unbelievable!

after this shit, i decided i will never go to the red light district for the rest of my trip.

reports about fkk dietzenbach and fkk sharks will be written in the specific club section later.

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler;1499563]Since there's no "Red Light District" section in this forum, I just post the Red Light District experience here with my Oase report.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report.

In the past, I've seen reports on the RLD on general FRA thread here. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?678-Frankfurt[/url]

Also, there is the new Brothels section. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?775-Germany-Brothels[/url]

Sorry to hear that a girls tried to hustle you(or girls tend to hustle you. lol.). Italian girls tends to do that. lol.

In order to increase the likelyhood of better services I would suggest talking to the girl about what she does and etc.. before zimmer. Usually girls keep their word, although, from my experience when I ask them if they kiss, they say yes, and they would LFK(light french kiss). So what I do is try to test the girl out a bit, taking them to kino and see if they initiate any GFE or get you aroused.

Recent reports of Oase doesn't sound good. Alexia, 300e scam. 50e bj only scam? Unreal. I can see girls getting desperate if the business is low(usually I get better services in places where business is low), but I don't recall getting this kind of treatment, maybe when I was new there(not as bad as this), then services started getting better. I'm hoping it's just bad luck out of 100+ girls.

I thought 50e for covered bj and fikken is the typical price. Isn't there a choice to only do cjb or fikken for 30e? I must have gotten ripped off if that isn't the case. Some redlight girls will do a little more than mechanical sex at the RLD, but it's rare. I thought it is more common in Hamburg apartments, and there are good amount of German girls in those apartments. Good time to go to FRA RLD is during the day when pretty young girls work and head out at night. Whenever I went during the night, I see the nasty girls mostly.

What's up with you getting ripped off at Oase and RLD. You must really look like a newbie to alot of girls.

Sorry Solo. I have experiences the same thing only thing I did differently I walked and told the girl you can hustle me for the money but only after I we see the mgmt and when they have viewed the cams. All the girls back down when I said this with some pleading telling me they are sorry. This are mostly new girls the old girls are still ok but most of them have gone.

You should have told the german girl that all prossie are the same in the eyes of god. German or not she still sucks your Meat Popsicle for money.

You got it bad there. Can't even believe alexia was your best punt in oase as to me she is one of the worst. Better luck next time. Since your asian I suggest you try thai girls would be worth your money with less attitude.

Solo Traveler,

I forgot to mention this, when you get into the room and she say some BS like 50e for BJ only, get the hell out. No need to go through with the session as at that point the session is pretty much dead. Why suffer through a bad session, and kill your mood? I have walked out on girls that started to up-sell in the room. Also, don't be afraid to report her to the front desk as you are doing a favor to other punters for taking such actions. If you give into to these girls, they will keep trying with the hustle.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1499179]The only time a cab driver used the most efficient route back to Frankfurt was when we reached a fixed price deal. They like to use routes that burn extra kilometres.

The best route typically if on a meter is turn left at Ober Erlenbach and go to the B3. Very fast from there and relatively straight.[/QUOTE]I should add a clarification. The B3 is not actually the shortest route back to Frankfurt. It is shorter and quicker than using the A5. The shortest route via Marie Currie Strasse and Rosa Luxembourg Strasse has many turns and traffic lights so takes a bit longer. It may give the cheapest metered price. Note that none of these routes requires the taxi to head to Bad Homburg. A taxi will often turn towards Bad Homburg if on a meter to waste a few kilometres if you don't stop them from doing this. Some drivers are a-holes but not all. The a-hole drivers act so dumb and innocent, but can't be believed. That's why its best to agree to 35 Euro flat fee to Frankfurt. My place of stay is closer than central Frankfurt so I can get there on just 30 Euro on the meter when I specify the route, even though the driver doesn't believe it will be just 30.

Most drivers are using GPS, so they don't know the best route to my place, but will surely know the best route to standard destinations like near Frankfurt main station. GPS are are not programed to pick the cheapest taxi route.

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler; 1499563]She started to explain "her rules":"50EUR for suck and only hand job"and"100EUR for suck and nice fuck. Etc bullshit "

I was a bit shocked at this kind of attitude change, and replied:"Well, but 50EUR should include suck and fuck."

She replied:"No. 50EUR is just hand job."[/QUOTE]Jesus! I've never heard of that even at Palace!

Oase has problems.

You should have taken that Italo-Romanian shark to the reception when she started to tell you BS. Never heard of that at Oase, this is RLD behavior. 50€ is for DFK, DATY, BBBJ, covered sex. 30min. This report actually confirms to me that Oase is the new Palace. That's why I switched to Sharks and World.

Alexia. Average session, great body.

RLD FFM: The German girls in the RLD are 99% sharks. Especially in Rotes Haus (Taunusstr. 34) and Leierkasten (Elbestrasse 53). You were lucky to get real sex for 50€. Typically they will tell you it is 30 or 50€ for sex. You think "Great, I can fuck her!" and in the room she will tell you sex = hand job. The hand job then will be performed with a plastic glove, no body contact at all. There's exceptions, but not too many. If you want to find a good girl in the RLD, read the local German boards.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1499717]RLD FFM: The German girls in the RLD are 99% sharks. Especially in Rotes Haus (Taunusstr. 34) and Leierkasten (Elbestrasse 53). You were lucky to get real sex for 50€. Typically they will tell you it is 30 or 50€ for sex. You think "Great, I can fuck her!" and in the room she will tell you sex = hand job. The hand job then will be performed with a plastic glove, no body contact at all. There's exceptions, but not too many. If you want to find a good girl in the RLD, read the local German boards.

HB[/QUOTE]I had a good honest session with a Thai girl in RLD and a rip off session with a looker from Columbia. That was enough. I never went back. Its just curiosity value I reckon, particularly for guys like me that are not into quickies. Need to watch out for lady boys too.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1499735]Need to watch out for lady boys too.[/QUOTE]They are more or less only working at Elbestrasse 53 (Leierkasten). You can have great sessions in the RLD for 30 EUR including BBBJ, CIM and even BBFS if you are into that.

HB

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler; 1499563]I just came back from my first trip in Germany.

I stayed in a hotel near Frankfurt central station (Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof) as my strategic base, and I visited the Red Light District (twice) , FKK Oase (once) , FKK Dietzenbach (once) , FKK Sharks (twice) via the convenient public transportation from Frankfurt Hbf, and then I either walk or take a taxi directly to the FKK clubs.

"Oase report"

12. 11. 13 Tuesday.

Get into Oase at about 5pm, and left just about 11pm, because I lost my mood after one shitty session and one so-so session in Oase.

First one was Carly, from Italy. She approached me appeared to be kind and honest in the kino.

After we go to the room, everything changed.

She started to explain "her rules":"50EUR for suck and only hand job"and"100EUR for suck and nice fuck. Etc bullshit "

I was a bit shocked at this kind of attitude change, and replied:"Well, but 50EUR should include suck and fuck."

She replied:"No. 50EUR is just hand job."[/QUOTE]You go to a FKK (paying upfront fee). You expect 'standard' service'. So if the FKK management is failing to enforce minimum standards. They are in trouble.

Oase is part of my to do list in my up coming trip. Should I change to another venue?

Thanks.

Sam

My opinion: Skip Oase for World or Sharks.

HB

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1499800]You go to a FKK (paying upfront fee). You expect 'standard' service'. So if the FKK management is failing to enforce minimum standards. They are in trouble.

Oase is part of my to do list in my up coming trip. Should I change to another venue?

Thanks.

Sam[/QUOTE]To me Oase always had a certain percentage of girls that were upsell, or poor service or just to business like expecting the guy to just lie back and be done with whatever she thought was good. All clubs have some bad girls. Oase still has plenty of good girls, its just about what is your probability of finding mostly great girls without too many issues.

I think it is perceived that this probability has been declining. Regular customers may have collected a set of favourite girls over time, and as long as sufficient of the favourites remain, no problem. Guys who like to change girls all the time are perhaps facing more challenge to find the good ones. Take your time to assess girls and pick carefully.

There are known great girls or acceptable girls for me including: Lavinia, Magda, Elizabeth, May (Thai) , Crina, kooky Dora, Anna, kooky Carla (Julia)"the ass", Patrizia, if they attend, all fairly reliable service. The list has been declining with girls leaving. I have lost 3 of my top 4 favourites from Oase recently and a few more over longer time. There are other girls known to be good not quite my spec.

If you manage to make use of many highly recommended girls, things could go very well. If you don't know any girls, things could be more difficult. At least Lavinia is highly recommended (looks like a young Marilyn Monroe. Sort of). Also Carla (Erica) very small build with blonde and green hair seems to be very highly recommended.

Solo Traveller faired not so well, but I don't know his Carly. Alexia is an unreliable type I think. I did try her and for me, not enough chemistry to repeat.

Its also worth noting that Oase has seasonal issues. I would say there was a decline in later part of 2012, a big improvement in first half of 2013 (found some great new girls) and then decline again.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1499813]My opinion: Skip Oase for World or Sharks.

HB[/QUOTE]+1

I'd add the underrated Mainhattan to the mix. I thought Mainhattan had some nice looking young girls, almost as good as Sharks but fewer.

Anyone coming to Germany from America for the first time would think Oase is heaven. However, there are plenty of much better choices in both Frankfurt and Dusseldorf than Oase.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1499818]Solo Traveller faired not so well, but I don't know his Carly. Alexia is an unreliable type I think. I did try her and for me, not enough chemistry to repeat.

Its also worth noting that Oase has seasonal issues. I would say there was a decline in later part of 2012, a big improvement in first half of 2013 (found some great new girls) and then decline again.[/QUOTE]Correction!

I found that I didn't spell the cheating Italy girl's name in a proper way.

The cheating Italy girl's name is pronounced as "car-lie", so the best way to spell it in English should be "Carlisle".

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1499717]You should have taken that Italo-Romanian shark to the reception when she started to tell you BS. Never heard of that at Oase, this is RLD behavior. 50€ is for DFK, DATY, BBBJ, covered sex. 30min. This report actually confirms to me that Oase is the new Palace. That's why I switched to Sharks and World.[/QUOTE]Speaking of FKK Sharks, all my sessions in FKK Sharks were good! (with 6 different girls)

I even met a girl who gave me super unforgettable girlfriend experience!

My experience in FKK Sharks were all good, and that was why I went to FKK Sharks twice in two consecutive days (November 17 and 18).

Next time I had a vacation in Frankfurt (probably in July 2014) , I will stick with FKK Sharks, and I will also try FKK World.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1499717]RLD FFM: The German girls in the RLD are 99% sharks. Especially in Rotes Haus (Taunusstr. 34) and Leierkasten (Elbestrasse 53). You were lucky to get real sex for 50€. Typically they will tell you it is 30 or 50€ for sex. You think "Great, I can fuck her!" and in the room she will tell you sex = hand job. The hand job then will be performed with a plastic glove, no body contact at all. There's exceptions, but not too many. If you want to find a good girl in the RLD, read the local German boards.

HB[/QUOTE]Thanks again.

Next time, I may still give the Frankfurt Red Light District a try, but I will not expect too much from there.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1499818]Regular customers may have collected a set of favourite girls over time, and as long as sufficient of the favourites remain, no problem. Guys who like to change girls all the time are perhaps facing more challenge to find the good ones.[/QUOTE]As a periodic but infrequent visitor. 5 to 6 to times a year for about 5 to 6 days each time, I find it optimal to patronize a big club like Oase as I would then be able to maintain a core of 1st tier regulars who would reliably keep me satisfied. For example, in my trip last week, I sessioned with 5 of my 6 1st tier regulars, less Lavinia who was missing, on Sunday. On Monday, no 1st tier girls were working, but I had another very good day with Elizabeth, and 3 of my 2nd tier regulars, namely, Elena, Crina and Magda / Dahlia. I then normally spend the remaining time to try out new girls to find prospects to replenish my list of regulars as and when they retire. Having enough regulars means that I would almost never leave Oase unsatisfied.

I tried Mainhatten a few times over the last few years since they opened, but the girls were always changing. As such, it was a hit and miss each time; and it feels less homely with no familiar faces. I have been to Sharks many times, but I am still struggling to build up a reasonably sized core, as the population pool there to draw from is much smaller than Oase; and I do not have the luxury of being able to go there as often as Syzygies or others.

Anyway, I am flying off now and will not see FKK land again till next year. Happy Silvestre to all those going to the parties!

[QUOTE=Wassab; 1498383]The process is very simple but the choices are limited. You previously had to pay 65 for entrance fee and now you have to pay 70. With this fee, you get two wrist bands, one for proof of payment and the other is for your ONE meal. The meal choices are:

- if you choose to eat lunch buffet then that will cost you your one meal wrist band.

- if you choose to tough it out and save the wrist band for dinner then it can be traded in for a pizza or

- use the wrist band value (10 euros) towards other a la cart dishes such as specialty pastas etc.

Some have argued that the premium a la carts are not really worth the noted price which can range from 15 euros to 27 euros (if I recall)

Don't make a foolish mistake by attending the lunch buffet at 15:45 because at 16:00 they will clear the buffet table to get ready for dinner. Remember one bowl of cereal can cost you your lone wrist band so use it wisely.

Food has never been my concern but is for others. I usually have a nice meal in my hotel or by the train station before heading to Oase which tends to carry me over well the 18:00 mark. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Oase is a waste of time.

Too far out, no food, no drinks, others brothels offer these services so why would you go Oase?

[QUOTE=TankTank123;1499902]As a periodic but infrequent visitor. 5 to 6 to times a year for about 5 to 6 days each time, I find it optimal to patronize a big club like Oase as I would then be able to maintain a core of 1st tier regulars who would reliably keep me satisfied. For example, in my trip last week, I sessioned with 5 of my 6 1st tier regulars, less Lavinia who was missing, on Sunday. On Monday, no 1st tier girls were working, but I had another very good day with Elizabeth, and 3 of my 2nd tier regulars, namely, Elena, Crina and Magda / Dahlia. I then normally spend the remaining time to try out new girls to find prospects to replenish my list of regulars as and when they retire. Having enough regulars means that I would almost never leave Oase unsatisfied.[/QUOTE]Very fair assessment. I see you like very much the same types of girl as me.

Yes it takes time to build a favourites list at any club, even Sharks. Not all girls can be perfectly suited. Even Sharks has a few duds. Some girls known to be duds from previous venues where they worked, so no need to try them again.

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler; 1499857]Correction!

I found that I didn't spell the cheating Italy girl's name in a proper way.

The cheating Italy girl's name is pronounced as "car-lie", so the best way to spell it in English should be "Carlisle".[/QUOTE]okay That's a bit strange, never heard such a name, and Italian words don't have letter Y I think.

I believe that double vowels in Italian are pronounced separately so the closest to the sound to English "lie" would be something like "Lai" however its unlikely she is really Italian anyway.

I would recommend "Car-lai" as a clearer way to spell it.

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler; 1499563]First one was Carly, from Italy. She approached me appeared to be kind and honest in the kino.

After we go to the room, everything changed.

She started to explain "her rules":"50EUR for suck and only hand job"and"100EUR for suck and nice fuck. Etc bullshit "

I was a bit shocked at this kind of attitude change, and replied:"Well, but 50EUR should include suck and fuck."

She replied:"No. 50EUR is just hand job."[/QUOTE]Solo this italian girl does she have a big hair? Dark skin kinda like latina around 170 to 175 cm with heelp. Sparkling white teeth and has a prett face at least a 7/10?

They used to be the standard by which all other FKK's in the Frankfurt area were compared to. No any more. Not even close to what it once was. I agree with other posters: Try World, Sharks or Mainhattan. Oase IS now a big waste of time.

[QUOTE=MrManGuy; 1499911]Sounds like Oase is a waste of time.

Too far out, no food, no drinks, others brothels offer these services so why would you go Oase?[/QUOTE]

I am NOT exactly a new user of this forum, however this is my first post and I must admit that I could not restrain myself from posting after reading Solo traveler's report.

Over the years, I have always preferred to be a silent spectator gathering information from the posts and making my numerous FKK trips to Artemis (Berlin) , Oase (Hessen) , World, Golden Time (Vienna) , a success. I thank all the fellow punters for previous information over the years on this thread.

Till early this year, I was a regular to FKK Oase (my last trip back in March 2013). In past 3 years, I always had a mix of good as well as bad experiences at Oase, before something unusual which happened last year, when I bumped on to Adela. She has brown skin, black hair, belongs to this Romanian gang of girls at Oase, you could actually confuse her as an indian / pakistani / bangladeshi from the skin tone, unless you talk to her. During my first few visits, it was all great, I used to do 2 or 3 girls, mostly visited on saturdays. I always visited the club alone, and therefore approached a lot more, by girls (maybe because I am still only 28 yrs old). Most of them would not mind talking to me, since they recognized me from my previous visits. I always made it a point to say 'NO' quickly, if approached by a girl who did not appeal to me visually.

Soon, I started to develop a slight bias towards Adela (she admitted herself that she prefers being called by different names to different customers, Claudia, Viviana etc. But for me she is Adela). She was happy to hang with me in the club, even if we were not fucking. She would sit next to me, when not approached by customers, we often ate together as well. Most of the other girls in the so called Romanian gang also recognized me, there was this other girl with curly hair, who was an awesome belly dancer (sorry I am bad with names).

I believe at some point, late last year, I was doing only Adela, we would go in the room at 6 pm, stay there till 9 pm, come out to have dinner (we usually ordered pizza at reception since the food sucked anyway) , hang by the seating area, before she dragged me again to bed at 12. We would fuck in the room for hours with small pauses in the middle, lots of talking and soon in my following trips, I realized that she was also happy sleeping with me too till the close of club. For all this (almost 6 hrs of extreme GFE, something you would not expect from a pros) she was happy to charge only 200 euros. I actually used to tip her, but she never asked more than 200 from her side. One particular thing which I disliked about Adela was that she used to chase away the girls who approached me (who did not belong to this Romanian gang). This continued till my last visit (I know Adela since 3 years) , after which I decided to give it a break, and stopped going to Oase. Adela still texts me sometimes, we also talk on phone sometimes and make plans to meet. However, I have not been to Oase since March 2013, these days I prefer traveling to Frankfurt to spend a night with Adela, while staying at a hotel.

All this, when I do not speak any deutsch (lived long enough, but lazy to learn and wise enough to understand). I sympathize with Solo, for whatever happened, but you never know when you run onto someone like Adela (who may be probably just the right kind for you).

I usually travel a lot overseas all by myself for official work, always make it a point to check RLDs, most recent being Bangkok and phuket.

Dear Solo, Just wear an attitude, if you do not have one, and no damn shark can rip you off. Experience helps!

And by the way, I am an Indian, if this helps. .

Disappointed to know about the recent bad reports on Oase, Adela also told me that the club services have plummeted down. It has always been one of my favorite hunting grounds.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;1499966]They used to be the standard by which all other FKK's in the Frankfurt area were compared to. No any more. Not even close to what it once was. I agree with other posters: Try World, Sharks or Mainhattan. Oase IS now a big waste of time.[/QUOTE]Interestingly, late last year I was saying World was better than Oase when others said Oase wAs still the best in this area. Early this year Oase improved a lot in the line up. Now it's going bad, does Mauro yet understand that something is wrong and needs fixing? Or is he just going push on blindly with bad batches of new girls.

Will every club in turn go like this as girls get more dissatisfied with a 50?

Where does the real problem lie. It can't be as simple as putting the price up and charges for food, I don't think. Girls are saying they leave because of too many bad girls spoiling the club. Is this the real problem?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1500132]Where does the real problem lie. It can't be as simple as putting the price up and charges for food, I don't think. Girls are saying they leave because of too many bad girls spoiling the club. Is this the real problem?[/QUOTE]Short answer. YES the quality (service, behaviour, apperance) of the Oase girls is the real problem.

[QUOTE=Craiova;1500138]Short answer. YES the quality (service, behaviour, apperance) of the Oase girls is the real problem.[/QUOTE]Which is directly related to the clientele. Mostly Italian tourists (or other non-rgulars) that have low expectations, demands and are not likely to return anytime soon. I was in Andiamo in Austria earlier this year, which has the main problem (and about 95% Italian customers). I met a few girls I knew from Germany and they all told me to forget about DFK and that it was much easier to make money than in Germany; even there they belonged to the mediocre performers.

With the new pricing and the food stuff, Mauro clearly has shown to be more interested in this group of clients (locals know the alternatives) , with fitting girls moving there as well. From what the girls told me about the monthly meetings, it is mostly about how many towels they can use and similar BS. These meetings used to be about reminding the girls what service is expected by the clients (all hearsay of course, but it fits the narritive).

[QUOTE=Hallowed2323; 1500056]Till early this year, I was a regular to FKK Oase (my last trip back in March 2013). In past 3 years, I always had a mix of good as well as bad experiences at Oase, before something unusual which happened last year, when I bumped on to Adela. She has brown skin, black hair, belongs to this Romanian gang of girls at Oase, you could actually confuse her as an indian / pakistani / bangladeshi from the skin tone, unless you talk to her. During my first few visits, it was all great, I used to do 2 or 3 girls, mostly visited on saturdays. I always visited the club alone, and therefore approached a lot more, by girls (maybe because I am still only 28 yrs old). Most of them would not mind talking to me, since they recognized me from my previous visits. I always made it a point to say 'NO' quickly, if approached by a girl who did not appeal to me visually.

For all this (almost 6 hrs of extreme GFE, something you would not expect from a pros) she was happy to charge only 200 euros. I actually used to tip her, but she never asked more than 200 from her side. One particular thing which I disliked about Adela was that she used to chase away the girls who approached me (who did not belong to this Romanian gang).

Cheers[/QUOTE]This Adela sounds like a gypsy girl.

You are the first man I have ever met who spend 6 hours = 600 euro and got charge 200 euro. Did you ask for a discount or did you haggle. Reminds me about the midget in game of thrones who was shocked to hear that a working girl doesn't charge money for sex (in your case it was a big reduction). Can you give adela description such as height? Weight? Tatoos and etc? I love the discounter part but I do need to find the girl though LOL.

Vanekam my dear brother and may the lord of tandoori chicken protects us all.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1499954]Solo this italian girl does she have a big hair? Dark skin kinda like latina around 170 to 175 cm with heelp. Sparkling white teeth and has a prett face at least a 7/10?[/QUOTE]Her name is like "Carlai" if pronounced in German.

And like "Carlisle" if pronounced in English.

(I didn't spell her name properly in my first report)

When she wore high heels, she was around 175 cm.

She actually looked more like a Romanian.

Light skin.

She is naturally black hair, but she dyed most of her hair blonde.

She told me she was from Rome, Italy.

I really feel bad that I didn't report that cheating scam to the Oase reception.

Like others said, reporting everything which is not reasonable to the reception actually helps other punters and the club.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1500158]This Adela sounds like a gypsy girl.

You are the first man I have ever met who spend 6 hours = 600 euro and got charge 200 euro. Did you ask for a discount or did you haggle. Reminds me about the midget in game of thrones who was shocked to hear that a working girl doesn't charge money for sex (in your case it was a big reduction). Can you give adela description such as height? Weight? Tatoos and etc? I love the discounter part but I do need to find the girl though LOL.

Vanekam my dear brother and may the lord of tandoori chicken protects us all.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1500158]This Adela sounds like a gypsy girl.

You are the first man I have ever met who spend 6 hours = 600 euro and got charge 200 euro. Did you ask for a discount or did you haggle. Reminds me about the midget in game of thrones who was shocked to hear that a working girl doesn't charge money for sex (in your case it was a big reduction). Can you give adela description such as height? Weight? Tatoos and etc? I love the discounter part but I do need to find the girl though LOL.

Vanekam my dear brother and may the lord of tandoori chicken protects us all.[/QUOTE]Hello CaptCabins,

Vanakkam belongs to down south. I am from North india. So 'Namaste'.

Oh yes, the midget. I watch Game of Thrones too, still on Season 2, I started watching only recently.

You really think I would stay 6 hours with her if I had to pay 600 euros? LOL.

She is not very tall (without stiletto) , probably you are right, I think she is the gypsy girl with brownish complexion, you refer to. She told me that there are two other girls, one with red hair and other with curly hair, who are very good friends. The three of them stay together in Frankfurt.

In my first few trips to Oase way back in 2010, I saw her aggressively approaching the guys seated on the couch. During my last trips, she was mostly sitting by my side and never really approached anyone else. I never had to haggle with her. I guess, she is talkative, if the guy is familiar. We had this great chemistry going and she was just happy to see me in the club. She even taught me a few phrases in române&537; te.

Adela had problems if I talked to other girl, that sums it up, why I got discount? This is also the reason, why I stopped going to Oase. Why to pay entry fee, when she is ready to meet me outside? But I am not sure, if she behaves the same with others. After all, she is there for money. Isn't it? On one occasion, I thought she was some what rude to turn down an older guy, when both of us were discussing something.

In general, I think if you are a regular visitor and well behaved too, you would generally leave Oase satisfied (I am not very familiar with latest changes). I turned down Adela, the first time she approached me, but then, she came back with vengeance. LOL.

This winter, I am aching to return to Oase. Not at all happy after seeing bad reviews about this club, makes me doubtful, if this is really the place I want to go. But still, I think I will be back at least once (not for Adela this time) to check the renovated club. The kino thing does not appeal to me, ever since they removed the partition from main seating area.

Oase has always been the main reason for travelling to Frankfurt till now. I was there last July and saw the new setup which I thought was very nice, especially with Eros Ramozzoti playing near the changing room. I did see new girls there and although numbers were down due to it being summer I still find the very same and newer girls and had some lovely times. Surely all this talk of a complete demise of Oase has to be at least slightly overplayed? Ok so I would reckon at least 2-3 million euro has been spent on all the new buildings so a little more for food and entrance is surely not going to bankrupt the customers, after all everyone did complain about the food before? As for the girls service surely there are bad ones and lovely good ones in any club? Even 2 years ago some girls did try to hustle so that is in all clubs present. I'm finding it really hard to believe that Oase is no longer a target destination as it has always been? Maybe I am missing something here and if I am could someone let me know, as even I am now considering ditching oase in 2 weeks time. Many thanks.

2-3 Mio €? That's too much, Artemis cost about 5 Mio. Still there's quite a few guys I know who quit visiting Oase. Not only because of the 70€ and the food situation. Mainly because service levels of the new girls are down. My last visit was early September. Maybe I'll check Oase beginning of December.

Rumours tell that about 20 girls had to leave Oase.

HB

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1500231]Ok so I would reckon at least 2-3 million euro has been spent on all the new buildings so a little more for food and entrance is surely not going to bankrupt the customers, after all everyone did complain about the food before? I'm finding it really hard to believe that oase is no longer a target destination as it has always been? Maybe I am missing something here and if I am could someone let me know, as even i am now considering ditching oase in 2 weeks time. Many thanks.[/QUOTE]A big question is has this investment helped the club during the 8 months of the year when the garden isn't of much use? I didn't any improvement besides the restaurant. I used to love this club early to midweek, the lineup was always amazing and the numbers of guys to girls always about equal. Not so this year. Future visits I'll stick to visiting this club only on the weekends.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1500236]A big question is has this investment helped the club during the 8 months of the year when the garden isn't of much use?[/QUOTE]Yes, you no longer have to go downstairs when you need to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. For me expanding the garden didn't add much to the atmosphere either.

There is no way a club like Artemis cost 5mill to build and set up. Considering that property prices are probably equal to if not more in Germany than the uk. In Britain just a farmhouse would set you back a million easily and thats not considering the inner fittings at Artemis more than likely a lot more too. The large VIP house and restaurant section and extended areas with fittings easily 2 million in euro for oase IMHO.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1500158]This Adela sounds like a gypsy girl.

You are the first man I have ever met who spend 6 hours = 600 euro and got charge 200 euro. Did you ask for a discount or did you haggle. Reminds me about the midget in game of thrones who was shocked to hear that a working girl doesn't charge money for sex (in your case it was a big reduction). Can you give adela description such as height? Weight? Tatoos and etc? I love the discounter part but I do need to find the girl though LOL.

Vanekam my dear brother and may the lord of tandoori chicken protects us all.[/QUOTE]Hello CaptCabins I am from north so namaste.

Oh the midget. I watch game of thrones too. I think it needs skills to fuck more and pay less.

I never had to haggle with her. We shared a great chemistry. She had problem if I talked to other girls. But I do not think she deals with all customers alike. At times I have found her turning down a few guys when approached.

She is not very tall no tattoos slim body brownish skin tone.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1500158]You are the first man I have ever met who spend 6 hours = 600 euro and got charge 200 euro. Did you ask for a discount or did you haggle.[/QUOTE]I have seen this type of pseudo-relationship many times and although it is not a common occurance nor is it a particularly unusual occurance. Tends to occur to guys who regularly frequent a particular club (visit the club at least two or three times a month or more) and who hit if off with one of the hookers. The guy ends up paying this particular girl far less than would be the norm. I have seen guys pay €500 or €600 and in return the girl will spend 12 hours or more with him in the club and probably she will not go with other guys for that day. Now half of this time is generally not spent in the room fucking but instead is spent sitting together chatting or going for food, drinking etc. The downside is that the guy is almost bound to spend all his time when in the club with one particular girl. Going with other hookers in that particular club will generally break the magic of this type of pseudo-relationship. So yeah this type of thing happens to varying degrees. If you only visit a club occasionally, the chances of this type of thing happening are zero. However, in my book only seeing one girl is not really such a great advantage no matter how much money you might save. I go to the clubs for the variety not to meet one particular hooker all the time.

[QUOTE=Capt Dan;1500265]I have seen this type of pseudo-relationship many times and although it is not a common occurance nor is it a particularly unusual occurance. Tends to occur to guys who regularly frequent a particular club (visit the club at least two or three times a month or more) and who hit if off with one of the hookers. The guy ends up paying this particular girl far less than would be the norm. I have seen guys pay €500 or €600 and in return the girl will spend 12 hours or more with him in the club and probably she will not go with other guys for that day.[/QUOTE]Owh that is too much! 500 or 600 euro that is like 10 girls with 2 cims. Too much for one girl. I like haloweed deal 200 euro for 6 hours that is good. 12 hours for 400 euro that is nice deal!

I never gotten that treatment but I am calculative. I don't think I can spend 600 euro with half of it talking because during breaks I go and talk to the girls and touch them everywhere LOL. For 200 euro I am good.

Haloweed namaste too. Hopefully I can find this girl too. LOL but if she look indian I will pass it to ultrahappy as he likes indian girls.

Wish me luck. Praise all tandoori chicken.

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler; 1500170]Her name is like "Carlai" if pronounced in German.

And like "Carlisle" if pronounced in English.

(I didn't spell her name properly in my first report) [/QUOTE]I suppose I am being picky, but the final "L" in Carlisle is not silent. The "S" is silent. So does her name have a final "L" sound or not?

If not, you really only cause confusion by spelling that way.

[QUOTE=Capt Dan;1500265]I have seen this type of pseudo-relationship many times and although it is not a common occurance nor is it a particularly unusual occurance. Tends to occur to guys who regularly frequent a particular club (visit the club at least two or three times a month or more) and who hit if off with one of the hookers. The guy ends up paying this particular girl far less than would be the norm.[/QUOTE]Yes its not the norm, but possible. At one time I used to have a girl that I would pay only the first session and she would give me other sessions for no extra charge. The condition was I was not to fuck any of the other girls, like I was her property. So weird relationships can exist.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1500306]I suppose I am being picky, but the final "L" in Carlisle is not silent. The "S" is silent. So does her name have a final "L" sound or not?

If not, you really only cause confusion by spelling that way.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're right again.

Sorry, I am bad at Linguistics. I just keep making the spelling more confusing.

I used the google translation pronunciation function, and her name sounds exactly as "Carlai" pronounced in German.

(I key in "Carlai" and swithed it into German, and run the pronunciation function)

However, the word "Carlai" will be pronounced differently in English, and I also have difficulty finding a proper way to spell it in English.

Therefore, maybe I should not even try to spell it in English at the first place.

So, final conclusion, her name sounds exactly as "Carlai" pronounced in German when I used the google translation pronunciation function.

just spent the last three days at oase- i didn't visit any other clubs because my sweetie was there for me all three days and i didn't have a car so couldn't be bothered to schlep to world. let me just say that the lineups were very large and attractive and many very friendly and sweet girls were present. no complaints. and i really enjoy the restaurant. the food was freshly prepared and quite delicious- i had three different 10 euro pasta selections and each entree comes with a delicious small side salad (or fried / sauteed potatoes or mixed veggies) and fresh crusty bread. the pizzas were good too- i had a taste of a couple varieties from girls who couldn't finish their plates. it is much more civilized this way and i prefer this to the dismal food before. just eat a breakfast / lunch before you go and you should be fine with the dinner choices. the steaks looked delicious and next time i would not mind to pay an extra 20 euro for the steaks- they come with a huge portion of delicious looking sliced sauteed potatoes. two guys travelling together can each order their pizza and split it with their friend to stretch the nourishment throughout the night. and a small non-perishable sandwich or cakes in your bag to nibble as needed also helps.

the new men's umkleide is great. also, the new relax zone is a major plus, very comfortable and relaxing, unless there are a bunch of yammering mama's boys up there chatting away like hens lol. if you look at the bottom of the ceiling mural (oase version of cistine chapel) , there is a little cherub peeking over the wall who looks just like a famous board member lol.

cheers.

beffen

finally, made my first ever trip to a german fkk. have been reading about these things for nearly a decade, so a lot of anticipation. btw, i am posting this in both oase and sharks blobs, so apologies if you see it twice.

reached the place around 5:30pm on friday, and stayed till nearly 1:45am. plenty of time. did nt want to leave. it is a men's paradise, the german men are quite lucky.

for the americans reading, if all you have been to the us strip clubs, you would be shocked at your luck. i have been to some spanish clubs, but the fkks wipe the floor with the spanish clubs in my view. my reference point is some of the more famous clubs in the us, like mons venus in tampa, mitchell bros and new century in sf, some of the better clubs in la. i had not been to spearmint rhino in vegas for a long time and also not been to tootsies of late. but oase on friday had a line up of nearly 100 girls, and even the bottom 10 would be in the top half of mons or mitchell bros! and mons is supposed to have the prettiest girls among strip clubs, for example 2001 space odyssey right across has clearly worse looking girls. if you read tuscl or other strip club review blogs, you have posters always asking "are any extras available". well, guys at these fkks, any and all extras are available, with model type girls.

altogether, in 2 days at oase and sharks, i spent more than 1000 euros. ok, a bit steep. but then again, a few months ago i blew almost that much ($1100) on a bunch of lap dances in 2 days at mons, all i had to show was some grinding in my lap, boobies in my face but not even kissing the tits, and not much else. on the other hand, i went to the room 14 times with 12 girls (2 repeats) in those days at these 2 fkks.

at oase, i sessioned with sally, isabella, diana (petite brunette) , diana (taller blonde) , isablella (2nd time) alexia.

at sharks, i sessioned with angelia, jana, roxana, anita, a girl whose name i am blanking out on, roxana again, kosmina, neya.

i see all the carping, nitpicking, etc around here. i understand if you are a regular, take all this for granted, and of course visiting regularly and spending several thousands over the course of a year, one can get jaded and frustrated over small things, but seriously, the locals and the ones able to frequent these clubs have so much good, the small things hardly matter.

food? i thought the pizza at oase was just fine, plenty large and not bad tasting. honestly, i find much of european restaurant food not that good in the first place and prices to be a rip off (and not even water is given for free; ask for water and they open a bottle for a couple of euros) , so oase food was absolutely fine. i took a small bag with me (which fit into the locker, along with my knee length winter coat, sweater, trousers and shirt and shoes) with a couple of protein bars and a banana, in case there was no food and i got hungry past midnight. as it were, i just ate the banana, and did nt need all that much.

the first few minutes are a shock. you can read about all you want, but first time at fkk, especially oase, was something else. so many girls, all nude. most of them were medium height, slim, white, and under 25. i think i saw few 30+ aged women. very few with big asses. which is fine for me, i love the thin model types. faces were generally ranging 6 to 8. to give some reference, i find mons dancers to be 6 to 7 on average, a few 8's, and mitchell bros dancers to 5 to 7s, with a couple of 8's.

the place was generally packed. at least 40 to 60 men? may be more. they were rep001tered all over the place and of course many could be in rooms, difficult to say. in the lounge behind the entrance bar, and in the kino, men are sitting, making out, their robes partially or fully open, and at least a few hand jobs and blow jobs going on. in the whole night, i saw at least 3 men fucking in the open. i had asked about this in earlier posts here, so that was a big bonus. just in the prior week, i was at bagdad club in barcelona where i paid 90 euros entrance fee and the highlight is performers fucking on stage 2 or 3 times int he whole night; so, by that yard stick, just being in the lounge alone covered my entrance fee at oase.

i did find the oase girls to be more aggressive than at sharks. generally at sharks, they are a bit more laid back and approach you more discretely. at oase, they kept hitting you for a session constantly. but that hardly bothered me. i am used to being hounded for lap dances at the us strip clubs, and saying "no thnak you" or more likely "not just now, may be later", is hardly a bother.

now the one thing i regret was that i was not able to come that much. that is how i was able to session with that many girls in 2 days. i popped some viagra, and perhaps that was the reason. i was quite hard but not able to cum; this had never happened to me. in 2 days, i just had 3 pops. that was my personal failing.

also, i am somewhat of a hypochondriac, and very risk averse. so, i only wanted and got cbjs, and i had intercourse just 3 times (and i use double condom for intercourse, so that also has some impact on the inability to cum). did dfk (or i should say, mild dfk) with just one girl. no daty with any one. i am sure the regulars here think i am undemanding, but that is just fine with me. we all have our own risk tolerances.

but i did not find any of the oase girls to be rip offs. no one pressured me to go a full hour. the only one i spent a full hour was with sally, my first session. no one asked me to take extras, perhaps they could already sense it was a waste of sales effort by them, i was not even doing intercourse, why bother asking about anal sex or cim when i did not want bbbj.

what i liked about oase and this is the main reason i preferred oase over sharks was that you could do couch sessions. and watch other people's couch sessions. with all the girls i sessioned with, i spent at least 10+ minutes of couch sessions. with my first girl sally, i spent nearly 15 minutes in chit chat, and then another 5+ min mild petting. after i got over my initial shyness, i got bold and wanted blow jobs in the open, and all the other girls provided it. my entire session with alexia was in the bar lounge, we did not even go into the room. i got my blow job, tit fuck, and the rest from her on the couch. it is the debauchery aspect of this, that makes oase better in my view. on the other hand, sharks had the look and feel of an industrial warehouse, which it is. huge room like a football field, very spread out, and that bluish light. not very appealing.

coming to girls; sally. she claimed she was also new there. romanian of course. in fact, in my 2 days of sessions, other than jana, i think all the rest were romanians. as a side note, it is amazing to me that i hardly knew any romanians at all till now, and suddenly in 2 days i had sex with 11 romanians. anyway, sally was about 22, nice pretty face, not the perfect figure like isabella or roxana, but a bit bigger tits than those girls, brunette. nice sweet girl. i spent a full hour with her, and also one of the girls i actually had intercourse with. did finger her with a condom too (the only one i tried this on). she is open to dfk, so we did do some of that. even after a fl hour, i didn't pop, but i was happy.

then i found isabella. she has an amazing model type figure, thin at the waist, about 5'6' to 5'7" w / o heels. can't be more than 110 lbs. face is more of a 7, while i would have said sally is 8 on face and 7 body. i would give isabella 9 to 10 for body. i did a 30 min session, but prior to that a brief couch blow job, which really helped me to get over my inhibitions. i did not dfk with any one after sally, not even roxana who was intiating a lot of kissing. (as a non smoker, i find dfk with a girl who just smoked to be a put off, and practically every single girl smokes there, and quite frequently too). anyway, i had a nice 30 min session with her, and actually came in my cbj, my only pop at oase.

soon after i was approached by diana, the petite brunette and a blond friend of hers. they wanted to sell a 2 on 1 show. since i was not going to try intercourse itself, i never went for 2 on 1 shows. but i kept chatting with diana so her blond friend got the drift and left us. diana was sweet and after chatting for 50 to 10 minutes, we went into the kino and she gave me a couch blow job. that lasted 5 minutes, and then we packed off to a room. she has a cute round face, tiny body. i would give her 8 for body, may be 7 to 8 for face. she wanted to please, but no luck in cumming, so we left after 30 min. btw, she or no body else pressured me to stay an hour, even though i did not cum.

then i spotted diana, the taller blonde one, at the jacuzzi. she was with a friend, but came over to chat. she is relatively new to business, just a few months as i recall. was shy to some extent. she refused to give me a blow job in the public, but finally agreed to give a hand job in the kino and then moved into the room. i would give her 8+ for face, may be 70 to 8 for body. she is 5'7"" or more, not as model-thin as isabella, but is sweet. some kissing, some pretting, cbj.

by now, it was past mid night, and i wanted to go one step further. isabella was sitting alone in the kino, so went back to her. we chatted for a while, and then i talked about my public sex fantasy and she encouraged me to try it out. so, we moved to the more openly lit couch in the kino, first she gave me a blow job, and then rode me reverse cow girl, and then did a mish, all on the couch. seemingly no one cared, but boy, if i had ever imagined i would do such a thing, this was wilder than any such imagination. then we moved to a room. that was ok, but the only reason i overcame my fear of intercourse std risk was due to the public action, so room sex was a bit of come down. still, spent half hour with her, no luck with pop, and we left.

at this point, it was past 1pm, i had a long flight and long week, so needed to go to my room. but i could not get enough of this public thing, so hit upon alexia. she had been asking me from the time i walked into oase, so i though fair was fair. she is slightly older. 25 she said, and has a pretty face but not as model-type body as isabella. we moved into the bar lounge, and she did a cbj, tit fuck etc, all on the couch, sitting right across from sally my first fkk girl. i loved it. this was like some porn movie i was starring in. with alexia i never went to a room, the entire half hour was on the lounge couch.

for saturday i went to sharks around 5:30pm again. this time, i stayed almost to the close at 4:30am! not knowing when i would go back, i just did and't want to leave.

i already said i prefer oase over sharks, after my first experience. mainly due to the lack of open action and the spread out nature of the place. sharks seems to ahve more locals, while oase had more internationals. i found the quality of girls to be approximately similar. sharks had fewer, but you can still get your picks. the food is available all night, so that was good, but i found the pizza at oase better than the buffet at sharks. on the plus side, sharks had more fruits and stuff, which i did not see at oase. i found the cave like rooms near the jacuzzi to be unappealing, and the whole location of the jacuzzi is not nice. the steps are a bit steep, and it seems to be just a matter of time before one of the girls in their high heels trips over those steps and twists ankle. the thing i did liek about sharks though was the chip on your wrist band which lets you drink on the tab, and not having to pay right away. that was a turnoff at oase.

my first girl angelia, romanian of course, and she was sweet. some light french kiss, and the standard blow job. lots of body rubbing, petting etc. she was the only one who asked why not extend to an hour since i did not cum, but i wanted to sample as many girls as possible. i would give her 8 for both face and body.

then jana. i think some posters were calling her unfriendly, but i did not see that at all. she was hanging out at the german table next to the bar, with her 4 to 5 german friend, and as i was walking by, she called out. we talked for a few minutes, then went upstairs and sat on the lounge chair with her in my lap. of course, there is no couch action except kissing. but we talked a long time, at least 15 min, she was telling me about her life in stuttgart, and i told about my life in the us. went into the cave rooms upstairs, right next to the lounge chair. she was fun, and we tried various positions of cbj, and i had one of my 2 pops for the night.

then i came down to sit at the bar, and roxana was sitting next. it was a bit too soon after jana, but when roxana introduced herself, i knew i had to sample, given that i knew she was popular thanks to syzy and others. her english is more limited than others (btw, i was amazed how well most of the girls speak in english; i was at a club in barcelona, and the girl could not speak a word of english, it was communication nightmare). i have to say, roxana along with isabella at oase, had the best figures, or the type i like. i would give 9 to 10 for body (i would give 10, but one never knows if someone could be more perfect, hence my reluctance to say a definite 10). i would give roxana 7 to 8 for face. very sweet girl, clearly looking to please her man. my first session with her was an hour. i was quite aroused and tempted, so overcame my fears of std and tried intercourse. double condom of course, and she did not understand. she said i was the first man who used 2 condoms. after an hour i still did not come, and she was a bit disappointed i think, but i kissed her and assured i had a great time.

then after a few minutes, i ran into anita. i had talked to her earlier and i had one eye on her. she has a pretty face 8-9, and a 8+ body. dark hair. nice girl. in the room, she was ok, but after we tried cbj for a while i did not come, she was frustrated, and demanded more tip if she could make me cum. huh? is and't part of her job anyway. i stopped her, said just take it easy. my dick was getting sore from all the blow jobs and some sex, and not cumming; she was a pleasant girl to chat with. we made some jokes. she said german guys are humorless, don't understand jokes and only care about beer, cars, soccer (or football, as she called it) and girls. well, not all that different from american men, as i thought. anyway, we spent the last 10 minutes of our session chatting with no sex; still, i gave 20 euro as a tip, since she asked for it during our session (she did not deserve it, and was a bit of shark, but what the heck. 20 euro is not going to save my life).

after this i tried another romanian girl, but for the life of me, i can't recall her name and what we did. does not seem like a memorable experience.

then i ran into andrea. a nice bulgarian girl i think. had a nice sparkle in her eyes. we chatted for a few minutes. then she wanted to go to a room. i said i just came out, please give me some time. she wanted no part of that, perhaps thought i was trying to scam her, so she walked away. i think she lost an easy 50 euro, as i am an easy client, so i was not happy, but she looked cute; 8-9 for face. 7-8 for body.

then i ran into roxana again. we chatted briefly. chats are brief with roxana as her english is limited, a nd frankly i found girls like anita or jana easier to talk, while roxana seem to have very limited interests. anyway, we moved into a room. since i already fucked her, i was not afraid to start with intercourse. she was a bit surprised i think, as the first session was spent with 30 minutes on kissing, petting, body rubbing, etc. after some time, i asked her if she would fulfil a fantasy and she said anything, just ask. so i asked for rimming, and she said ok fine. obviously paid additional money, but we tried that for a couple of minutes and then i stopped her. it was just a fantasy, after watching a lot of porn, but once we tried, it was not that great, so it was done. but after all the excitement with roxana i was able to cum, and she was happy and relieved. i think she does take pride in her profession and if a man is unable to cum, she (and others too) take it as a personal failure, even if it is my problem and not theirs.

by now, it was quite late. i was debating if i should go to my room, crash for a few hours and catch my noon flight, or stay until the close. decided to stay till close, not sleep at all, and just pack off to the airport. i sat behind the bar near a pillar, and watching this girl kosmina. i think that is her name. romanian, really thin, tny face, brunette. she was sitting at the bar, and trying to convince a dude to go to a room. had her feet in his lap, giving him a great view of her pussy, and laughing at his every joke. that went onto for 30 minutes and she had no luck. finally she decided to walk away, after giving him a hug. i followed her and caught her near the sauna. we sit on the chair there for a minute and she says "want to go to a room"? i said can we wait a few minutes, i had a lot of sessions. she says, hey bud, time is money here, you either go to the room now, or i need to go. i say, well if you are in a hurry, you should go. she starts laughing and claims she was joking (i don't think she was joking; since i pursued her, she probably thought i would yield to her bluff). anyway, she uses the time for a smoking break (she smoke twice while sitting with the dude at the bar already). i wanted to try one myself, and she is surprised that it was my first, and really does not believe me anyway, and my clumsy smoking effort does bring some laughs. we go to a room, and the session is forgettable. my dick is getting sore after so many blow jobs, and the girls trying to take on a challenge and going hard at it, no pun. we stop after half hour as usual.

by now, it is past 3am. i move to the far end of the room; there were 2 girls sitting there and talking intensely. i sit on the other couch across. after 15 minutes i approach the brunette (neya) and say something. we start chatting and her buddy walks away. we just sit there and talk for more than 30 minutes. i told about my escapades, and she thought i was crazy for going hog wild. she tells me about her life, her problems. she was quite sweet. did not even want to go to the room, as i already told her how many sessions i had and my inability to come. after half hour, she wants to go home, so i feel bad and wanted to just tip her, but then said let us try a session. so we do just that. she is slow, and since i am sore, instead of a fast and furious blow job, she just takes me fully into her mouth and just keeps it there with very slow tongle action. felt quite nice. we do that for some time, then i stopped her and we just talk more. this time, she starts telling me her real intimate problems and asks for advice. at least she claimed no one else at the club knows what she told me. perhaps she felt i would never see her, and i had been so open with her, she trusted me. anyway, we spend more than 30 min in the room, mostly talking, and then i gave her 50 euro, and it is well past 4am. i sat at the bar for 20 minutes, drank some cappuccino, and went back to my room and then to the airport. in retrospect, i wish i had given neya a bigger tip, she was nice and sweet.

so, long report; but i got a lot of hep reading other reports, hopefully this helps some americans thinking about fkk visits. for the regulars i know my report adds limited value, and since i am very undemanding, probably adds no insight on how the girls i sessioned with, behave in different situations. except kosmina, anita to some extent, and may be sally my first girl who demanded a tip, i found all the rest to be sweet girls. clearly they are in it for the money, escaping life in romania or whereever else, but making the best of it. as an american, it is a heaven for me with hundreds of model type, very pretty. 21 year old girls, offering all kinds of sexual services, often in open public, for 50 euros. my goodness, at most european restaurants, dinner for 2 costs more than 50 euro; i find prices for most good in europe to be outrageous, most likely due to their vats or other structural reasons, but sex is so ridiculously cheap. over here, dinner for 2 at similar restaurants may cost $50 to $60, and for that you will get 2 to 3 lap dances at most at mons lasting 10 minutes, and not much more at mitchell bros.

At Beffen: You are getting old, if the food is of higher value for you than the girls. LOL.

HB

I wrote 5 Mio €, not Us-$. That's the number that was in the newspapers:

[url]http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_[/url] (Bordell)

"Das Artemis wurde von dem türkischen Geschäftsmann Haki Simsek füare etwa fünf Millionen Euro erworben und umgestaltet."

[url]http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/archiv/der-klub-artemis-ist-das-groesste-bordell-berlins--ein-unternehmer-liess-eine-lagerhalle-fuer-seine-zwecke-umbauen---er-nennt-es-ein-modernes-geschaeft-im-gewerbegebiet[/url].10810590, 10335124. Html

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1500533]At Beffen: You are getting old, if the food is of higher value for you than the girls. LOL.

HB[/QUOTE]True HB, I am indeed getting old, and feeling so, but the girls are still the number one priority, and I was not disappointed with the choices I made in that regard- in fact I was ecstatic. I was treated to nothing but top notch sex by my faves, Lavinia (all time fave) , young Laura, and Carla and that was what drove my choices of clubs this trip. If I weren't so smitten with them, I'd have tried some of the other gazelles at Oase like 20 year old brunette sweetie Isabella who was really cute- tall, with a mid length Cleopatra hairdo and sassy demeanor. I was just remarking that it was pleasurable to sit, relax, watch the parade of naked girls in and out of the umkleide frauen, and enjoy a freshly made plate of pasta mit salat und brot. For me the new food situation is kein problem, the lineup is as deep as ever, and now you can actually relax and sleep somewhere.

Isabella is indeed sweet and cute. Her face is 7 to 8 but I give her figure a 9 to 10, same as I did to Roxana. So, they would be my benchmarks at Oase / Sharks, and the two girls with the best body types I like to go for. If I was not stuck in USA but was around in Frankfurt, I would be going and seeing isabella every week, or more likely more than once a week.

I misssed Lavinia. I was new of course and did not know who was who, but anyone with a pretty face and good body I would have noticed; my guess is, on Friday night, she may have not been in, or perhaps was grabbed by regulars before she made it to the main lounges.

I agree with you in total; I thought Oase was very good. The debauchery is mind blowing. I saw some older looking dudes quite naked, sitting in the lounge or in the Kino, getting a blow job and hand job and looking like they were in heaven and not noticing anything around. I got a suck and fuck myself from Isabella in the Kino, but still was a bit self conscious although no one else cared. But these older dudes were so oblivious to everything else. If I was an old man and not getting any sex, I would retire to Germany, not Florida, LOL.

[QUOTE=Beffen1;1500571]True HB, I am indeed getting old, and feeling so, but the girls are still the number one priority, and I was not disappointed with the choices I made in that regard- in fact I was ecstatic. I was treated to nothing but top notch sex by my faves, Lavinia (all time fave) , young Laura, and Carla and that was what drove my choices of clubs this trip. If I weren't so smitten with them, I'd have tried some of the other gazelles at Oase like 20 year old brunette sweetie Isabella who was really cute- tall, with a mid length Cleopatra hairdo and sassy demeanor. I was just remarking that it was pleasurable to sit, relax, watch the parade of naked girls in and out of the umkleide frauen, and enjoy a freshly made plate of pasta mit salat und brot. For me the new food situation is kein problem, the lineup is as deep as ever, and now you can actually relax and sleep somewhere.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler; 1500350]I used the google translation pronunciation function, and her name sounds exactly as "Carlai" pronounced in German.

(I key in "Carlai" and swithed it into German, and run the pronunciation function)

However, the word "Carlai" will be pronounced differently in English, and I also have difficulty finding a proper way to spell it in English.[/QUOTE]I am an English speaker and I would pronounce it exactly the same way in English as what that pronunciation function from German does. I would guess the same for most European English speakers. The "ai" is similar to in a Mai Tai cocktail, or ordering a Chai at the coffee shop right?

English has to cope with some words that have a foreign origin. Exact vowel sounds are not as important in English as in other languages. Americans, English, South Africans, Australians, New Zealanders all pronounce their vowels slightly differently. What is absolutely important in English to being understood, is the correct consonant sounds. When a Thai girl says "rub" instead of "love", maybe I did not understand. LOL They don't pronounce either L or V like as in English. Sort of destroys the word.

[QUOTE=Beffen1;1500571]True HB, I am indeed getting old, and feeling so, but the girls are still the number one priority, and I was not disappointed with the choices I made in that regard- in fact I was ecstatic. I was treated to nothing but top notch sex by my faves, Lavinia (all time fave) , young Laura, and Carla and that was what drove my choices of clubs this trip. If I weren't so smitten with them, I'd have tried some of the other gazelles at Oase like 20 year old brunette sweetie Isabella who was really cute- tall, with a mid length Cleopatra hairdo and sassy demeanor. I was just remarking that it was pleasurable to sit, relax, watch the parade of naked girls in and out of the umkleide frauen, and enjoy a freshly made plate of pasta mit salat und brot. For me the new food situation is kein problem, the lineup is as deep as ever, and now you can actually relax and sleep somewhere.[/QUOTE]Yes I think that for guys who have their favourites, the demise of Oase is greatly exaggerated. Still sufficient good girls when you know who they are. If we had an exact list of all the good girls amongst the new comers, there would be little problem indeed. Guys seem to get very pissed off when trying the wrong new girl and finding she was an upsell specialist or ordinary service. Others are still in heaven at Oase.

I merely advise guys to evaluate the style of new girls carefully before pulling the trigger, or read the forum and see who gets consistently recommended. Lavinia is a girl of very nice looks and honest character. Always does her best but won't tolerate bullshit. Very good Language skills too. Not just a dumb blonde. Deserves to be a top rated girl. I should try these girls Carla and Isabella.

You seem to be slipping into a bit of Deutsch, LOL

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1500486]Altogether, in 2 days at Oase and Sharks, I spent more than 1000 Euros. OK, a bit steep. But then again, a few months ago I blew almost that much ($1100) on a bunch of lap dances in 2 days at Mons, all I had to show was some grinding in my lap, boobies in my face but not even kissing the tits, and not much else. On the other hand, I went to the room 14 times with 12 girls (2 repeats) in those days at these 2 FKKs.

Also, I am somewhat of a hypochondriac, and very risk averse. So, I only wanted and got CBJs, and I had intercourse just 3 times (and I use double condom for intercourse, so that also has some impact on the inability to cum). Did DFK (or I should say, mild DFK) with just one girl. No DATY with any one. I am sure the regulars here think I am undemanding, but that is just fine with me. We all have our own risk tolerances.[/QUOTE]Amazing report and many thanks. I hope you don't mind but for this trip since you are from the US would you mind sharing how much you spent in total (flight+accomodation+food and girls and etc.). I am just curious to know actually.

No offence but the services you require are quite basic and that is why the reason you find Oase was good. Things like DFK and RO is a must for me. Anyways different strokes for different folkes. Anyway thank you as you provide an informative report. I must try some of the girls you tried since for me in temrs of looks alone Alexia is good for me. Her service sucks though.

Your a good American who shared unlike the Ultratandoori.

If you are an experienced clubber or a regular and you stick to the girls you've known for a while. Oase is a good place to be. For newbies or first time visitors and if checking oit new girls the situation might differ.

HB

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1500757]Amazing report and many thanks. I hope you don't mind but for this trip since you are from the US would you mind sharing how much you spent in total (flight+accomodation+food and girls and etc.). I am just curious to know actually.

No offence but the services you require are quite basic and that is why the reason you find Oase was good. Things like DFK and RO is a must for me. Anyways different strokes for different folkes. Anyway thank you as you provide an informative report. I must try some of the girls you tried since for me in temrs of looks alone Alexia is good for me. Her service sucks though.

Your a good American who shared unlike the Ultratandoori.[/QUOTE]Man! What more details do you want? And you can call me by alias.

Thank you

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1500758]If you are an experienced clubber or a regular and you stick to the girls you've known for a while. Oase is a good place to be. For newbies or first time visitors and if checking oit new girls the situation might differ.

HB[/QUOTE]Don't you agree that it is the same pattern we saw at Palace some years ago when it started slipping to the point it became unbearingly annoying place for most of us? First it happend only to the new guys since the regulars still know which girls are good, but evenutally the lack of management of service standards causes even the best of providers to become kind of rotten, and eventually the "new girls" take over.

As far as we have the trend of more and more international guests nothing can stop this trend we see now at Oase and we have seen at Palace over the last years. In each of the big 5 Hessen FKK clubs you find in average at every time a percentage of more than 50 percent international guests somtimes up to 80 percent. The porportion of international guests increased very fast over the last years.

And today I've read the very good report from Jnpr30 about his trips to Oase and Sharks. He compared this clubs with his pay sex situation in America. Or some days I've read a report about pay sex in Japan. In both cases these guys feel like in heaven in a german FKK club.

And of course their demands on a good service level room is much lower than from us locals. And as long as the clubs are full with guys like that there isn't any reason for upgrade service level. Look at Palace we are complaining for years about the downgrade service level but there is no reason for Palace to change something as long as they have enough customers.

In other countries like in south and central america this pay sex business has developed in a kind of two price system. One for the locals and one for the tourists. But this has tradition in these countries also for other things like taxis, restaurants, hotels and all other services. In Germany we don't have this tradition this will officially never happen here. So for the next years I see more and more a trend to low level service or good service for a higher price in our big international FKK clubs in Hessen.

To spend that kind of money to get CBJs and only fuck 3 of the twelve girls you were with (with double condoms, no less) is, to me, insane. But then again, you're foolish enough to spend $1, 100 in lap dances, so at least you're getting more value in Germany. If you have that much fear of getting STD's, perhaps you should find another hobby. Bye the way, I believe that is it is considered less safe to fuck with two condoms, rather than one, because of the condoms rubbing against each other and making a break more likely.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1500486]Altogether, in 2 days at Oase and Sharks, I spent more than 1000 Euros. OK, a bit steep. But then again, a few months ago I blew almost that much ($1100) on a bunch of lap dances in 2 days at Mons, all I had to show was some grinding in my lap, boobies in my face but not even kissing the tits, and not much else. On the other hand, I went to the room 14 times with 12 girls (2 repeats) in those days at these 2 FKKs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1500943]To spend that kind of money to get CBJs and only fuck 3 of the twelve girls you were with (with double condoms, no less) is, to me, insane. But then again, you're foolish enough to spend $1, 100 in lap dances, so at least you're getting more value in Germany.[/QUOTE]That can easily happen with tourists. A regular usually has own selection of girls. The girls also know that they can't upsell to a regular guy, since it will be a waste of time.

It is more the body language of customer which can attract sharks. And never forget, at Oase, the receptionist always asks when she sees someone for first time "Is it first time?" I will not be surprised if the reply of the customer at that point is passed on to girls (something like Hey ladies! We finally have a newbie, all of you have been waiting for! LOL!).

I was a regular at Oase, but when I visited GT in Vienna for the first time, the girls at first thought of me as a "real newbie", only to discover later that I am even bigger shark! Haha!

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1500943]To spend that kind of money to get CBJs and only fuck 3 of the twelve girls you were with (with double condoms, no less) is, to me, insane. But then again, you're foolish enough to spend $1, 100 in lap dances, so at least you're getting more value in Germany. If you have that much fear of getting STD's, perhaps you should find another hobby. Bye the way, I believe that is it is considered less safe to fuck with two condoms, rather than one, because of the condoms rubbing against each other and making a break more likely.[/QUOTE]I think he should have gone to Palace too and he would have liked it there. Frankly speaking he is the perfect customer for the girls assuming he takes a shower before seeing the girls.

[QUOTE=Henio;1500884]Don't you agree that it is the same pattern we saw at Palace some years ago when it started slipping to the point it became unbearingly annoying place for most of us? First it happend only to the new guys since the regulars still know which girls are good, but evenutally the lack of management of service standards causes even the best of providers to become kind of rotten, and eventually the "new girls" take over.[/QUOTE]We will see. The trend is there. As said before: Oase is the new Palace. Sharks is the new Oase.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1500995]We will see. The trend is there. As said before: Oase is the new Palace. Sharks is the new Oase.

HB[/QUOTE]A club that doesn't allow public sex (unless a girl drags you to the very back) can never be the 'new oase'. Not until making out and a BJ before going to a room become standard here, will they be able to live up to that name. I get what you're saying though, with the good line up. I still prefer to go to World nowadays, since the 'old Oase' doesn't exist anymore (geez, and I've only been going to clubs for a couple of years!).

The problem is not that he was sharked: he wasn't, since he got the service he wanted. That is the problem. A CBJ and no intercourse for 50 Euro is a great deal for the girl but a terrible precedent for the rest of us who actually want BBJ and intercourse, as well as GFE. While I am sure he is a nice guy, he is the kind of person who, if enough of them start going to these clubs, is going to fuck it up for the rest of us by demanding so little in terms of service (because of STD paranoia in his case) that girls are going to go Palace and demand extra for what used to be standard services. He and the rest of those who demand so little in terms of service should do us all a favor and stay away from FKKs and sauna clubs and go to the RDLs where he can get the same low level of service he wants at a cheaper price.

[QUOTE=Hallowed2323; 1500956]That can easily happen with tourists. A regular usually has own selection of girls. The girls also know that they can't upsell to a regular guy, since it will be a waste of time.

It is more the body language of customer which can attract sharks. And never forget, at Oase, the receptionist always asks when she sees someone for first time "Is it first time?" I will not be surprised if the reply of the customer at that point is passed on to girls (something like Hey ladies! We finally have a newbie, all of you have been waiting for! LOL!).

I was a regular at Oase, but when I visited GT in Vienna for the first time, the girls at first thought of me as a "real newbie", only to discover later that I am even bigger shark! Haha![/QUOTE]

Whoa. I seemed to have rubbed you the wrong way. As I said, if you are lucky enough to go to these clubs regularly, bless you, but if you had lived in the US, you could spend a grand and not get much more than lap dances. In fact, in NYC at kne of those upscale strip clubs, you will get even less than those laps of Mons, and spend a lot more. Anyway, I am pretty happy with how my FKK visits went, and 1000 euros for 10+ girls and nearly 14 room visits is a fair price. The CBJ and no fuck was my choice. May be if my tests come out ok, and I get more comfortable, next time, I may get BBBJ or even a ball suck.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1500943]To spend that kind of money to get CBJs and only fuck 3 of the twelve girls you were with (with double condoms, no less) is, to me, insane. But then again, you're foolish enough to spend $1, 100 in lap dances, so at least you're getting more value in Germany. If you have that much fear of getting STD's, perhaps you should find another hobby. Bye the way, I believe that is it is considered less safe to fuck with two condoms, rather than one, because of the condoms rubbing against each other and making a break more likely.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. I guess my report was mainly meant for the US visitors, since I provide comparable data points in terms of clubs here. I guess I am, what Syzy calls, an opti flik man, so I do think I found the best looking girls around on those nights. I think Isabella and Diana and Sally were better looking than Alexia, and that's why I passed on Alexia at first although she was the first to hit upon me at Oase. But as the night went on, I felt bad that she had asked me multiple times, and what the heck, a nice blow job in the public is tough to pass from a pretty girl.

I would have liked to kiss the girls too, but almost all of them smoke, not just in general but while sitting on the couch with me, just prior to the session start. I think they need to kick their smoking obsession, to attract the non smokers. I asked them why they smoke so much and they say it is a stress relief. I asked why are you so stressed, and they said financial troubles, customers are tough, some are assholes, etc. So, I don't feel bad at all that I gave them 50 for an easy job, I feel bad I did not give them tips (which I gave to Sally and Anita, who actually were a bit sharkish)

I was in EU on business, so the transatlantic fare was not on me. The little side trip to Germany was not that expensive. German hotels were cheap, although tiny and very basic. I stayed at Mercure and Ramada in Darmstadt. Along with the sex in Germany, German hotel is the only other cheap thing in EU I find. Speaking of guys mocking me how much I paid and demanded so little, how do you guys pay those ridiculous fares for everything in the shops over there, from clothes to food to electronics to everything else. Perhaps you should come to the US to shop while we will come there for sex. LOL.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1500757]Amazing report and many thanks. I hope you don't mind but for this trip since you are from the US would you mind sharing how much you spent in total (flight+accomodation+food and girls and etc.). I am just curious to know actually.

No offence but the services you require are quite basic and that is why the reason you find Oase was good. Things like DFK and RO is a must for me. Anyways different strokes for different folkes. Anyway thank you as you provide an informative report. I must try some of the girls you tried since for me in temrs of looks alone Alexia is good for me. Her service sucks though.

Your a good American who shared unlike the Ultratandoori.[/QUOTE]

I have attached a photo that is a fairly good representation of my favorite at Oase, Carla. You will have to add purple or green highlights to the hair to be complete, but this help you identify her. Always dependable GFE from this slim Romanian sweetie.

Hi guys,

Very interesting to read some of your comments on Oase where I ventured this past weekend in what was only my second ever visit to one of these wonderful institutions.

Along with a couple of friends, I spent around six hours here on Saturday evening and then another shift approaching eight hours on Sunday afternoon / evening.

The three of us firmly immersed ourselves in the job at hand while taking our time to chose companions carefully & selectively once a connection (of sorts) had been established. We all had a fabulous time and can't wait to repeat the experience sometime early in the new year.

I should pint out that one member of our trio had been a few times this year therefore, I did have the benefit of his guidance on aspects regarding the general protocol. Being no stranger to the world of mongering particularly Thailand, Brazil, Spain, Czech Rep and the Dominican Rep, this was an environment I was extremely comfortable and at ease with.

Being rather partial to the dark oak, my first girl on Saturday evening was a tall slim, small ass black beauty from the Seychelles calling herself Jennifer (or similar sounding) she was excellent and got me off to a flyer, in fact after making full use of the 30 minute time frame where we adopted several positions I was completely and utterly "shagged out" this girl is built like an athlete and certainly gave me a great work out. What a fabulous start, her kissing was sensual and the sex was right out of the top drawer.

The same with all four of my Oase companions I declined any of the add on extras like anal and CIM. Money's tight these days so I was restricting my budget to €50 each session plus a drink at the bar. As you do.

Following this energetic session I needed period of recovery and a gallon of water plus some sustenance which was eagerly received in one of the excellent pizzas and a cup of coffee.

Now I was ready to go again and this time it was a tall full figured silicon enhanced blonde from Moldova. She was very professional, we acquainted ourselves over a drink in the cinema area where she soon had my robe open while dispensing a BBBJ. Then it was off to the room and my goodness if I thought Jennifer was the biz, this girl's performance hit another level, quite definitely right up there with the best P4P sessions I've ever had. Sweat was pouring from us both and I've seldom felt so relieved to 'pop my cork' I just knew those endless sessions at the Gym and pounding the treadmill would eventually benefit me in some way.

Next day Sunday all three of us guys were rather more subdued having had a rip roaring alcohol infused Saturday evening out and about in Frankfurt partying with the local talent, nonetheless it was once again great fun.

My two service providers were a petite Italian girl whom proved to be rather laklustre compared to the Saturday companions but in that sense, I was perhaps expecting too much however, normal service was resumed when a few hours later and following dinner and forty winks Luana from Serbia once again took me to the heights of an outstanding performance. What a passionate kisser this girl is. Wow wee.

So overall very impressed and eagerly awaiting my next visit once the piggy bank is replenished.

Of course I'd like to try some where different at some point but surely it can't get much better than this past weekend at FKK Oase. Can it?

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1501065]The problem is not that he was sharked: he wasn't, since he got the service he wanted. That is the problem. A CBJ and no intercourse for 50 Euro is a great deal for the girl but a terrible precedent for the rest of us who actually want BBJ and intercourse, as well as GFE. While I am sure he is a nice guy, he is the kind of person who, if enough of them start going to these clubs, is going to fuck it up for the rest of us by demanding so little in terms of service (because of STD paranoia in his case) that girls are going to go Palace and demand extra for what used to be standard services. He and the rest of those who demand so little in terms of service should do us all a favor and stay away from FKKs and sauna clubs and go to the RDLs where he can get the same low level of service he wants at a cheaper price.[/QUOTE]Agreed! So what can you do about it? Stop every tourist? LOL. The clubs would break down. I think you will not disagree with me if I say that FKKs mostly thrive on tourists, in general. Girls at Palace offer poor service, still the place is alive, simply because of messe visitors. We after all, are only a bunch of demanding regulars, the club may not really care for, apart from few incidents, here and there.

If it was not for these lavish tourists, most of these FKKs would cease to exit, and we would not be talking about them on this forum. So, I don't think, tourists need to stopped. As a regular, if one has demands, he should be able to extract it out from girls he fucks so often, either by hook or crook. Otherwise, probably, he doesn't deserve it, because neither he has the money nor the skill to get that.

[QUOTE=BonePony;1501198]I have attached a photo that is a fairly good representation of my favorite at Oase, Carla. You will have to add purple or green highlights to the hair to be complete, but this help you identify her. Always dependable GFE from this slim Romanian sweetie.[/QUOTE]That is a sweet photo and I bang Carla once too. A bit looge down there though.

[QUOTE=Free Dude;1501013]A club that doesn't allow public sex (unless a girl drags you to the very back) can never be the 'new oase'. Not until making out and a BJ before going to a room become standard here, will they be able to live up to that name. I get what you're saying though, with the good line up. I still prefer to go to World nowadays, since the 'old Oase' doesn't exist anymore (geez, and I've only been going to clubs for a couple of years!).[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I have to disagree about all this The Great Fall of Oase, etc. Having read this forum over the past few weeks, I went to Oase recently thinking to find doom and gloom no shadow of the old Oase we all dearly love, etc. I found, howver, to my delight, the club is firing on old the old thrusters: Great line up, old in-your-face Oase atmosphere, service very good and reliable from the many regular girls there, and I even tried two new girls (one a recent arrival from a club near Saarbruken, another just last night via Stuttgart clubs Paradise and Sakura) , both great performers. Mind you, as always one has to select properly and fish for the chemistry.

I also visited Sharks on Sunday past and whilst the line up was physically impressive and vast, the atmosphere there is rather sterile, esp compared to Oase, where it is so much easier to snuggle and test chemistry on the various couches than at Sharks. I am not saying one cannot test chemistry at Sharks nor get some coach action there, one can for sure, but at Oase the set up and dynamic are much, much better, I find. Public bbbjs were going on right and left in the so-called Kino area.

In short, I think that you can claim Oase is the new Palace, but just saying so does not make it necessarily true. Just as there was a lot of Palace-bashing going on in the past, there is now Oase-bashing. I still find Oase to as it used to be, in fact with alot of the attention now shifted over to Darmstadt, it seems a bit easier to get and find what one wants at Oase. I agree entirely with the recent post of Beffen, the club is still top-notch. The food: I could actually care less about, I do not go to eat there. But it is what it is. To HB and others, I think you should go back for another look in the near future, you might well tone down some of your negative rhetoric about this club if you make a new recent visit.

Best erotic atmosphere of all the clubs I have visited of late, and I do not applaud all the changes there. The girl line up and performance are still there. For me, anyways!

Just my real impressions.

O

Hmm. Is that a joke? I mean, I did end up taking a shower nearly 14 times and I assumed most do the same, and it sure seemed like the shower rooms were always full. That said, I was unsure if the girls clean themselves thoroughly after every session, including a mouth rinse, which is one reason why I could not bring myself to suck on the boobies or DFK (but the smoking was bigger factor in not DFKing). I washed and rinsed mouth myself after each session for my own sake, given my STD paranoia as someone said.

BTW, does anyone know what is the club policy on STD testing? I spoke to the girls and they said they do get tested but the details kept changing. One said every month, another said every 2 weeks, and one said Oase does not require testing but she gets tested herself etc. Since prostitution is legal in Germany, I would have hoped that clubs would be required to test the girls regularly, to maintain their license. If it is upto the girls to get tested when / as they like, that is less comforting.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1500967]I think he should have gone to Palace too and he would have liked it there. Frankly speaking he is the perfect customer for the girls assuming he takes a shower before seeing the girls.[/QUOTE]

I think I made the same point as well. Sharks was a bit too impersonal for me. Very spread out, more than half the girls just sitting on the bar chairs and chatting away; and the lack of public action. I asked Jana and a few other girls I sessioned with, and they all said Sharks has no public blow jobs etc. The club does not ban them per se, but just not done. In my mind, the public action, watching others while sitting right across, the debauchery aspect of this, is what is more appealing about a FKK than a regular brothel, albeit with very attractive girls at Sharks for sure.

If I were back in FRA next time I would skip Sharks and go back to Oase and perhaps try World. So, those people who complained that foreigners like me are lowering standards for the locals can be happy about keeping the sanctity of Sharks, LOL.

[QUOTE=Ortos; 1501260]Sorry, but I have to disagree about all this The Great Fall of Oase, etc. Having read this forum over the past few weeks, I went to Oase recently thinking to find doom and gloom no shadow of the old Oase we all dearly love, etc. I found, howver, to my delight, the club is firing on old the old thrusters: Great line up, old in-your-face Oase atmosphere, service very good and reliable from the many regular girls there, and I even tried two new girls (one a recent arrival from a club near Saarbruken, another just last night via Stuttgart clubs Paradise and Sakura) , both great performers. Mind you, as always one has to select properly and fish for the chemistry.

I also visited Sharks on Sunday past and whilst the line up was physically impressive and vast, the atmosphere there is rather sterile, esp compared to Oase, where it is so much easier to snuggle and test chemistry on the various couches than at Sharks. I am not saying one cannot test chemistry at Sharks nor get some coach action there, one can for sure, but at Oase the set up and dynamic are much, much better, I find...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BonePony;1501198]I have attached a photo that is a fairly good representation of my favorite at Oase, Carla. You will have to add purple or green highlights to the hair to be complete, but this help you identify her. Always dependable GFE from this slim Romanian sweetie.[/QUOTE]Carla. Her name at World was Erika.

HB

Ok, I guess it's good to hear not everything changed at Oase (although I'm not sure I'm likely to go back anytime soon). In my last last 4/5 visits it was going downhill very quickly. With hardly any public action and even my regulars (who were still good in the room) being very reluctant in kissing me 'outside'. With one exception (a new girl) , none of the girls I was interested my last visit, wanted to go to the kino. Room promises was all I got. I hope this is changing back; now I only have to wait for some normal food set up.

I still stick to my point of Sharks not deserving the 'new Oase' title.

Has anyone seen Fiden or Polish brunette Yulia at Oase recently? 1 week to go after a 5 month break back in hessen. Lovely.

A quick question to regulars:

Is it worth going to FKK Mainhattan instead of Oase on November 30 (Christmas party)?

I haven't been to Oase or Mainhattan of late, but was a regular at Oase till last March (at least once every month). Never attended any parties though.

I have not been to Mainhattan either, that's why the question.

I fly to US in the afternoon next day, so I plan to arrive at FRA an evening before. All I have is 1 night, so need to decide between Oase and Mainhattan.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1500995]We will see. The trend is there. As said before: Oase is the new Palace. Sharks is the new Oase.

HB[/QUOTE]Please translate this into clear language.

I did like Oase, though it might be getting slightly worse.

I did try Mainhattan, which I think is almost as good.

I thought Palace was sharkish and not so good. Are you saying Sharks is improving?

I do like fresh young natural next door girls, with non-saggy boobs, no kids. What other places do you recommend to me?

Artemis in Berlin is not what I like, too much silicone, too many German girls, too professional and old.

Occasionally I could go anywhere, should I go to places other then Frankfurt? Can you advise? What else is up to the old Oase standards?

I do not care about DFK, anal, porn star experiences, etc.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1499717]You should have taken that Italo-Romanian shark to the reception when she started to tell you BS. Never heard of that at Oase, this is RLD behavior. 50€ is for DFK, DATY, BBBJ, covered sex. 30min. This report actually confirms to me that Oase is the new Palace. That's why I switched to Sharks and World.

Alexia. Average session, great body.

RLD FFM: The German girls in the RLD are 99% sharks. Especially in Rotes Haus (Taunusstr. 34) and Leierkasten (Elbestrasse 53). You were lucky to get real sex for 50€. Typically they will tell you it is 30 or 50€ for sex. You think "Great, I can fuck her!" and in the room she will tell you sex = hand job. The hand job then will be performed with a plastic glove, no body contact at all. There's exceptions, but not too many. If you want to find a good girl in the RLD, read the local German boards.

HB[/QUOTE]Please tell me which are the good German boards. Are they free? Which one is worth paying? I remember once I tried to pay at a board and all attempts failed. Do you have instructions? Yes I read German.

[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist;1501766]I do like fresh young natural next door girls, with non-saggy boobs, no kids. What other places do you recommend to me?[/QUOTE]World and Sharks,

[url]www.lustscout.to/forum[/url]

[url]www.freiercafe.com[/url]

[url]www.roemerforum.com/forum[/url]

[url]www.rheinforum.com[/url]

All boards are free, in German and good information on German brothels.

HB

[QUOTE=Hallowed2323; 1501744]A quick question to regulars:

Is it worth going to FKK Mainhattan instead of Oase on November 30 (Christmas party)?

I haven't been to Oase or Mainhattan of late, but was a regular at Oase till last March (at least once every month). Never attended any parties though.

I have not been to Mainhattan either, that's why the question.

I fly to US in the afternoon next day, so I plan to arrive at FRA an evening before. All I have is 1 night, so need to decide between Oase and Mainhattan.[/QUOTE]For you I think you go to FKK Palace. They have chapati and dhal buffet and the girls they love international client. Oase and mainhattan may not be suitable for you as the girls there like men who shower.

[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist;1501766]Please translate this into clear language.[/QUOTE]Essentially I believe HB is saying that Sharks is heading towards being like Oase was a few years ago, although not yet as big in numbers of girls, and Oase is heading to be like the Palace was a few years ago, I. E. Is not as bad as the Palace is now in relation to upsell girls, aggressive girls, and lack lustre service, but moving in that direction. The large crop of new girls at Oase are not seen to be providing enough outstanding girls.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1501328]Carla. Her name at World was Erika.

HB[/QUOTE]To have the information. It would be hard to identify her from these without the face included but I definitely remember that body (#4 is the best representation). If I could just see the p*ssy, I could make a positive I'd.

I do like fresh young natural next door girls, with non-saggy boobs, no kids. What other places do you recommend to me?

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1501785]World and Sharks,

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HB[/QUOTE]Thanks.

What else? What other cities are worth going to if I have time to spare?

What fkk is as good or better as oase in its best days?

Berlin is probably hopeless, .

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1501841]Essentially I believe HB is saying that Sharks is heading towards being like Oase was a few years ago, although not yet as big in numbers of girls, and Oase is heading to be like the Palace was a few years ago, I. E. Is not as bad as the Palace is now in relation to upsell girls, aggressive girls, and lack lustre service, but moving in that direction. The large crop of new girls at Oase are not seen to be providing enough outstanding girls.[/QUOTE]I remembered someone mentioned that "A good club in the eye of frequent punters is not necessarily a good choice for newbies and infrequent punters", which I couldn't agree more after my first sexcation in Germany.

As my recent report said, my first impression on Oase (unfortunately, which is also my first impression on German FKK Clubs) was totally ruined by the cheating shark "Carlai", from Rome, Italy, who tried to cheat me that "50 EUR was for hand job only".

Besides, it seemed that almost every frequent punter on this forum agreed that the risk of meeting a sharky or pushy upselling girl in Oase kept increasing.

So, doesn't it just indicate that Oase is no more a "newbies-friendly" or " infrequent punters-friendly" club nowadays?

By the way,

Can someone help rank the Hessen Big Five (Oase, World, Sharks, Palace, Mainhattan) from the most "newbies / infrequent punters-friendly" to the less friendly in your own opinion?

Thanks

Well, Oase remains full of Romanians many of whom are unpleasant. Was there recently. A room of 75 or more girls. 10 gems. 20 deeply unpleasant and irritable. A few months back there were 1-2 girls from Latvia. Wonderful. Polish girls are almost always good finds. Bulgarians usually nice. There's at least 2 terrific Germans but they both work very part time. Something about these Romanians can really ruin the experience.

Of course there's some really good Romanian girls. But the unpleasant ones, their arrogance, their bitchiness, can really ruin the day.

Haven't read the board here in a while. What's the latest great FKK club these days? I went to Golden Sauna in Vienna-a bit more expensive, but transport is much cheaper (no car needed). Fewer girls but on the whole a better average experience. At Oase you really need to find the right girl and stay away from the miserable ones.

Also many Romanians now seem to want CIM or some extra or otherwise your 50 Euro isn't good enough.

Maybe it is time to complain to management?

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1501824]For you I think you go to FKK Palace. They have chapati and dhal buffet and the girls they love international client. Oase and mainhattan may not be suitable for you as the girls there like men who shower.[/QUOTE]I explicitly mentioned that my question was directed to regulars, not 'newbies'.

Someone seems to be offended because I do not give details about a girl. At least you could send me a message, instead of trying to provoke me. I guess you are just not 'Man' enough to do that. What's the matter with you mate? Not getting enough pussy?

And yes, ladies like the guys who shower with them. Not the guys like you, who shag alone helplessly like losers standing in shower, molesting themselves for half an hour without cumming a drop! You don't need a girl, but a doctor.

Learn spelling at least (its 'dal' not Dhal) before preaching more than you actually know!

I will write a report about my Oase visit next week, let me see if I hunt down another Adela. At Captcabins: Thanks mate! You provoked me, now I am up for it! Just the kind of spark I needed!

Hi all,

I might be heading south tomorrow towards FRA, and I am torn between revisiting Oase (only FKK I have been to, been there 5 times if memory serves) or try something new and sample Sharks.

While I am curious to try out new place / girls, I have a few god regulars at Oase and it is good to be farily sure of the quality I will get since I only do FKK every couple of months, plus I have to drive 4 hours to and from.

I have heard a few girls have been sent away from Oase, I will not regret Amanda (even if she was my first FKK experience and I did not find her so bad after all, once she knew what I liked she was actually quite good at it) , but I would like to know if her friend Alexandra is also not anymore at Oase. I find her quite prety and she gives a BBBJ the way I like it.

Which other girls have ben sent away?

I think I will make my choice tomorow mornoing before reserving the hotel for the night.

Gentleman,

I just saw a lineup that Syzgies posted on 26. 09. 13 in the German forum. Anelia from Bulgaria is back? Has there been a more recent sighting? Wish you had disclosed this data last time when I saw at Sharks, Syzgies!

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Alchemist7744;1502101]Hi I would like to know if her friend Alexandra is also not anymore at Oase. I find her quite prety and she gives a BBBJ the way I like it.[/QUOTE]The small curly haired Alexandra that paired up with Amanda the last few years was present 2 weeks ago. Now called Iris.

I found a very good number of natural girls at Artemis last April. I will return there in a few days. Many Polish, German and east European you just have to search. I would not dismiss Artemis even though there are some more professional types there. however to note still some extremely attractive girls there or I would not go or neither would anyone else. Finally girl request has anyone seen fiden or Polish brunette Yulia at Oase?

[QUOTE=McAdonis; 1502130]Gentleman,

I just saw a lineup that Syzgies posted on 26. 09. 13 in the German forum. Anelia from Bulgaria is back? Has there been a more recent sighting? Wish you had disclosed this data last time when I saw at Sharks, Syzgies!

Thanks![/QUOTE]
I checked my post. "Nicht gesehen" means (those girls) "NOT seen".

I posted the same lineup here in English on 26th Sep. You should have read that one.

[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1476700&viewfull=1#post1476700]Line up[/url]

In summary, I haven't seen Anelia for quite a long time. I don't think she was discussed at Sharks either. So the problem is purely yours, not being attentive to the Oase Thread here, and not understanding any Deutsch as well.

My Deutsch is pretty crap actually but I can understand some basics and try to speak with Roxanna in Deutsch as she seems to understand it slightly more than English at times. Some times I try both Deutsch and English. She did not seem to understand "Window" nor "Fenster". LOL

[QUOTE=Alchemist7744;1502101]I find her quite prety and she gives a BBBJ the way I like it.[/QUOTE]There was once I saw her give a BBBJ to a man seated on a high stool beside a table in the jacuzzi area in bright daylight in full view of everyone in the jacuzzi section. So there are others who obviously appreciates her BBBJ skills!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1502221]My Deutsch is pretty crap actually but I can understand some basics and try to speak with Roxanna in Deutsch as she seems to understand it slightly more than English at times. Some times I try both Deutsch and English. She did not seem to understand "Window" nor "Fenster". LOL[/QUOTE]Rosetta Stone German could really do with an FKK unit.

[QUOTE=Solo Traveler;1502054]I remembered someone mentioned that "A good club in the eye of frequent punters is not necessarily a good choice for newbies and infrequent punters", which I couldn't agree more after my first sexcation in Germany.[/QUOTE]I don't think so. The regular German customers are liking World and Sharks, and they are the best choice for newbies too.

[QUOTE]Can someone help rank the Hessen Big Five (Oase, World, Sharks, Palace, Mainhattan) from the most "newbies / infrequent punters-friendly" to the less friendly in your own opinion?[/QUOTE]okay I am not a newbie but at the Palace this year I may as well have been as have attended very infrequently for last 3-4 years. I did know a fewgirls and just a few knew me. Did not have a good time. Palace comes last unquestionably. I don't know how to rank Mainhatten as have not yet tried.

When I started coming to World, the girls would not know whether I was a newbie or not, but got consistently good sessions with little upsell problems. Possibly I was assisted by some buddy advice, but if a girl is hot enough, and I get a good vibe, I am willing to try. So I rank World as the safest place for a newbie, and its still very popular with experienced Germans. Its possible to find a crap girl there, but not a big percentage. I probably only ever had 4 or 5 disappointing sessions there in total over many visits. Sharks has quite a few good options for girls I am keen to fuck, which is what pulls me back there, but also has a few ordinary or poor girls, including some rejects from other clubs (who could have improved). Sharks also has quite a few highly recommended extremely reliable girls.

Oase is getting increasingly difficult with many girls not really happy to fuck for a 50 any more. So it moves to 2nd last place. I can still do okay there as have a pretty good idea about which longer term girls there are good or consistently recommended or have nice personality even if I didn't fuck them before. My face is well known. But a danger for newbies to be ripped off. At Oase it is very important to give the impression of being FKK experienced rather than have the girls think you are a newbie. Play it cool and somewhat disinterested. LOL

Perhaps should try to maintain a list of highly recommended reliably consistent girls at the clubs with descriptions. That would be the greatest possible service to the forum, although possibly a little unfair to the newer girls. The biggest problem is we don't know lots about every girl at times, when forum members are lazy to post a detailed report on every single girl tried.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1502292]ISharks has quite a few good options for girls I am keen to fuck, which is what pulls me back there, but also has a few ordinary or poor girls, including some rejects from other clubs (who could have improved). Sharks also has quite a few highly recommended extremely reliable girls.[/QUOTE]Same same for World.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1502303]Same same for World.

HB[/QUOTE]Yes, so in the end, its just personal opinion which place has the highest percentage of girls that are good, or in my case the highest percentage of girls tried that were good enough to want to repeat. In my case I give it to World where the highest percentage of girls tried were subsequently repeated. Some of the ordinary to bad girls I tried at World are not there any more. Examples of definite non-repeat girls: Simona (Diana's sister) quite ordinary for me (not GFE) , Ionella (now Lorena) appeared clueless or very lazy or a time waster, Larissa (the ass) was dick scared, a really hopeless but pretty German girl (forget the name) , Samira very dull in the room. Most other sessions have been good to better than good (perhaps I forget a few).

Definite repeat girls: Joanna, Karina, Nichole, Samantha, Diana, Antonia, Andrea, Ioanna, Christina (blonde) , Christina (brunette) , Catalina (should she return LOL) , Carolina (long ago) , Lea, Erika, etc. So the number of girls repeated or intend to repeat out weighs the number that would not be a repeat.

At Sharks I have repeated very few girls so far (only Roxanna taken every time) but a few are on the intend to repeat list. This could be partly be caused by a wider range of girls that I want to try out.

That was the basis I rate World as safer for newbies, but its possible I was very fortunate with my picks, as tended to take time to choose very slowly.

Overall I have not had that many really bad sessions at Oase, but quite a few girls were not good enough to repeat or I stopped repeating them. I definitely encountered upsell more at Oase.

Haha. My german is bad but good enough to understand "nicht gesehen". Just saw the name and got excited! Will read more carefully next time. As always, thanks for your timely reports, Syzygies.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1502221]I checked my post."Nicht gesehen" means (those girls)"NOT seen".

I posted the same lineup here in English on 26th Sep. You should have read that one.

[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1476700&viewfull=1#post1476700]Line up[/url]

In summary, I haven't seen Anelia for quite a long time. I don't think she was discussed at Sharks either. So the problem is purely yours, not being attentive to the Oase Thread here, and not understanding any Deutsch as well.

My Deutsch is pretty crap actually but I can understand some basics and try to speak with Roxanna in Deutsch as she seems to understand it slightly more than English at times. Some times I try both Deutsch and English. She did not seem to understand "Window" nor "Fenster". LOL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hallowed2323; 1502086]I explicitly mentioned that my question was directed to regulars, not 'newbies'.

Someone seems to be offended because I do not give details about a girl. At least you could send me a message, instead of trying to provoke me. I guess you are just not 'Man' enough to do that. What's the matter with you mate? Not getting enough pussy?

And yes, ladies like the guys who shower with them. Not the guys like you, who shag alone helplessly like losers standing in shower, molesting themselves for half an hour without cumming a drop! You don't need a girl, but a doctor.

Learn spelling at least (its 'dal' not Dhal) before preaching more than you actually know!

I will write a report about my Oase visit next week, let me see if I hunt down another Adela. At Captcabins: Thanks mate! You provoked me, now I am up for it! Just the kind of spark I needed![/QUOTE]My good friend I don't mean to rub your tandoori feathers the wrong way. It is my humble opinion Palace would suit you best due to the beautifull model Hollywood type ladies there. There is an Egpytian lady there who would be a good bonk for you. I forgot her name but she has a Cleopatra hairstyle. Dhal. Dal. Do well you know what I mean the yellow mushy food you guys like. Usually at Oase, Mainhattan or Shark they will serve beef on those occasion. I don't think you would like to see the cow that you worship on a silver plate being eaten by old men like me LOL I would like to message you my friend but your PM is not available as you are a regular member. Perhaps you could share with me your other alias that allows PM. LOL yes I not get enough pussy so I go to fkk just like you my friend ultra tandoori. Hunt don't hunt. Always talk and talk and talk just like UH. Results talks until then enjoy your dhal!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1502292]So I rank World as the safest place for a newbie, and its still very popular with experienced Germans. Its possible to find a crap girl there, but not a big percentage. I probably only ever had 4 or 5 disappointing sessions there in total over many visits. Sharks has quite a few good options for girls I am keen to fuck, which is what pulls me back there, but also has a few ordinary or poor girls, including some rejects from other clubs (who could have improved). Sharks also has quite a few highly recommended extremely reliable girls.[/QUOTE]Syzygies, thank you very much!

I had a overall good time in FKK Sharks on this vacation.

I will definitely try FKK World next time.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1502458]My good friend I don't mean to rub your tandoori feathers the wrong way. It is my humble opinion Palace would suit you best due to the beautifull model Hollywood type ladies there. There is an Egpytian lady there who would be a good bonk for you. I forgot her name but she has a Cleopatra hairstyle. Dhal. Dal. Do well you know what I mean the yellow mushy food you guys like. Usually at Oase, Mainhattan or Shark they will serve beef on those occasion. I don't think you would like to see the cow that you worship on a silver plate being eaten by old men like me LOL I would like to message you my friend but your PM is not available as you are a regular member. Perhaps you could share with me your other alias that allows PM. LOL yes I not get enough pussy so I go to fkk just like you my friend ultra tandoori. Hunt don't hunt. Always talk and talk and talk just like UH. Results talks until then enjoy your dhal![/QUOTE]I am aware of that Egyptian lady. She is obnoxious. In Palace, I was talking to the person sitting next to me once, she sat on my lap. I was clearly annoyed as I was in middle of a conversation. When I told her 'I see you later', she screamed at me 'What's so fucking wrong with you guys today? Am I not attractive? '. LOL. There was a lady Katrina whom I used to fuck often at Palace. I remember the first time she approached me, she was unstoppable. You can't do much, when a lady is talking sweet while holding on your dick, seated in lounge. More than being turned on, I was shocked! We walked to the room, while she was still holding on it. I was clearly embarrassed. A girl passing by, laughed and said 'Have fun! '. LOL. I think she quit this line. She was very pushy to meet outside, when I talked to her on phone. So I was always kind of suspicious. After she quit, I never went back again.

I have spent enough euros in past years on Palace, so I do not need a lecture on that club. Even some taxi drivers who wait outside knew me back then. Usually, I used to ring them up a day before, to let them know that I am coming to FRA. I know I can get any other f* taxi too, but that is not how I operate. I trust people for their reliability, in case of taxi drivers, it was mostly because of the information they provide.

I have a general suggestion: If you really need a good source of information about girls, talk to the cab drivers. I know it is very difficult to curb your excitement as one approached a club like Oase, but still, if you do, it helps. All these new girls who work at Oase, usually take the same cab everyday. If you ever happen to stay at this club till close and then come out, some of the cab drivers will decline to take you back. Why? Because they are waiting for the girls who are their regular customers. Hence, these cab drivers know every detail about the girls, who is coming who is going, which girl is the current favorite of customers etc. I struck gold when I got hold of one such taxi driver who was ready to blurt every information I need on condition that I am a regular customer. This taxi driver usually have other friends, who take other girl back. So, basically, access to chain info is what I am talking about. Please do not ask for numbers!

At CaptCabins: Perhaps, you generalized my attributes with a typical sub-continent guy. I am not. I am an atheist. I eat all kinds of stuff (including sharks. Hehe!) , hate bollywood music and listen to dark metal. I do not go to FKKs for food. I usually carry one or two small sandwich and a small bottle of rum. In the old set-up, I never ate that shit buffet. Adela used to insist that we order pizza jointly at the reception. Her friends would join in, we paid collectively, used to have nice pizza feast back then. After the food, both of us would share a cigarette, and then back to fucking. I think she hated smokers before but started smoking under my influence (LOL) , the atmosphere and line of her work aggravated it.

CaptCabins! If you keep talking crap, like the way you did for the 3rd time, I am going to stop posting. Sorry if you think I am rude, but I do not think, you know enough to advise me on girls. I get enough pussy both inside as well as outside, because the girls I know are ready to visit me as escort. Melody from Artemis is another one such beauty.

My first trip to a FKK club was at Oase Thursday night and I enjoyed myself there. From what I'd read on ISG and talking to friends it sounded like World would be a better club so I had decided to save it for last and visit Oase first. I'd say 95% of the girls I talked to were from Romania. Others that I remember were from: Slovakia, Thailand, Santo Domingo, and Milano, Italy (maybe Alexandra). I'm a native Engish speaker and after a bit noticed that some of the girls only understood the basics and just pretended to understand the rest of what I was saying. I switched to my sub-par Spanish and was able to communicate better with some of them. I don't like to negotiate ahead of time and try to just go with the vibe I'm getting from a girl which worked for the most part, but does have it's risks. I didn't have any of them try to pull the different positions are extra like I'd experienced earlier in my life at Amsterdam's RLD.

I went with 3 girls at Oase and they all seemed to enjoy kissing, and gave enthusiastic BBBJs. Two of them asked if I prefer CBJ or BBBJ. I usually don't finish from just a BJ anyways so told them that I don't care and whatever they are more comfortable with. My first session was with Brianna with blonde hair who had recently returned from Romania after having a baby about 5 months ago. She was a total sweetheart and eager to please. The 2nd was Angie who was a smaller framed girl with more of a classic gypsy look. Before we went to the room she offered to go back to my hotel room later and I said we'll see if we enjoy each others company in the room first. I had a hard time not laughing when she told me it would only be 150 to the club for her to leave early and around 500 to her. I've had entire trips to Central or South America cost less than that so declined. I told her I wasn't ready yet as I had just finished a quattro formaggi pizza and needed to wait to digest my food. She stayed and talked to me so I decided to take a chance on her a bit later. She was a good session as well but not as good as the first. My last girl was Amelia. I probably should have known better before going to the room with her, but it was getting late and I couldn't find some of the girls I'd been interested in earlier and the effects of chewing up half a Sildenafil made me a bit over eager. She was the only one who did the constant annoying upsell which normally would have taken me a bit out of the mood, but I blocked her out and got in a good cardio workout.

[QUOTE=Nabru;1502666]My last girl was Amelia. I probably should have known better before going to She was the only one who did the constant annoying upsell which normally would have taken me a bit out of the mood, but I blocked her out and got in a good cardio workout.[/QUOTE]Hahaa. Love it.

Oase or Sharks for Tuesady and Wednesday-are lineups OK on these days.

I am hoping to avoid Palace and Mainhatten. Based on all wisdom that I read?
I am going to stay near central so Oase and Sharks are farther but ready to take the trip - hoping it is worth it
Thanks.

Sam

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1502776]Oase or Sharks for Tuesady and Wednesday-are lineups OK on these days.

I am hoping to avoid Palace and Mainhatten. Based on all wisdom that I read?

I am going to stay near central so Oase and Sharks are farther but ready to take the trip. Hoping it is worth it.

Thanks.

Sam[/QUOTE]Why would you avoid Mainhattan? Which post are you referring to? Mainhattan may have half the girls as Oase but imo more girls I would go with in that half than at Oase.

Just avoid Dessous days. Tuesday is Dessous at World and Sharks. Wednesday is Dessous at Mainhattan and Palace.

Given the above I recommend Mainhattan or Oase on Tuesday and Sharks on Wednesday.

When I went to Oase recently, it was my first ever fkk and I was pretty happy to say as much to the girls there. Despite that I did not any girls trying to rip me off. No one even so much as asked me to extend the session to an hour, and no one even offered extras. Ok, since I did not even take regular intercourse with many girls, them trying to push me into anal sex etc would have been a waste of breath. But they could have offered CIM, facial, rimming etc etc. But none did. Also, with Diana the petite brunette and Isabella, I did some amount of couch session, and particularly Isabella was happy to do a blow job and fucking in 2 positions on the couch in kino, and then we went into the room from there, and the couch time was not counted in the half hour. I still paid her just 50 and in retrospect I feel bad. Should have given her a tip, which I did to some girls but none deserved a tip as much as Isabella.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1502292]I don't think so. The regular German customers are liking World and Sharks, and they are the best choice for newbies too.

Okay I am not a newbie but at the Palace this year I may as well have been as have attended very infrequently for last 3-4 years. I did know a fewgirls and just a few knew me. Did not have a good time. Palace comes last unquestionably. I don't know how to rank Mainhatten as have not yet tried.

When I started coming to World, the girls would not know whether I was a newbie or not, but got consistently good sessions with little upsell problems. Possibly I was assisted by some buddy advice, but if a girl is hot enough, and I get a good vibe, I am willing to try. So I rank World as the safest place for a newbie, and its still very popular with experienced Germans. Its possible to find a crap girl there, but not a big percentage. I probably only ever had 4 or 5 disappointing sessions there in total over many visits. Sharks has quite a few good options for girls I am keen to fuck, which is what pulls me back there, but also has a few ordinary or poor girls, including some rejects from other clubs (who could have improved). Sharks also has quite a few highly recommended extremely reliable girls..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1502814]Why would you avoid Mainhattan? Which post are you referring to? Mainhattan may have half the girls as Oase but imo more girls I would go with in that half than at Oase.

Just avoid Dessous days. Tuesday is Dessous at World and Sharks. Wednesday is Dessous at Mainhattan and Palace.

Given the above I recommend Mainhattan or Oase on Tuesday and Sharks on Wednesday.[/QUOTE]BB:

Thanks for the way advice, but by the way what is 'dessous' never heard of it before.

Thanks

Dessous days are days when the girls are not topless / nude.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1502820]When I went to Oase recently, it was my first ever fkk and I was pretty happy to say as much to the girls there. Despite that I did not any girls trying to rip me off. No one even so much as asked me to extend the session to an hour, and no one even offered extras. Ok, since I did not even take regular intercourse with many girls, them trying to push me into anal sex etc would have been a waste of breath. But they could have offered CIM, facial, rimming etc etc. But none did. Also, with Diana the petite brunette and Isabella, I did some amount of couch session, and particularly Isabella was happy to do a blow job and fucking in 2 positions on the couch in kino, and then we went into the room from there, and the couch time was not counted in the half hour. I still paid her just 50 and in retrospect I feel bad. Should have given her a tip, which I did to some girls but none deserved a tip as much as Isabella.[/QUOTE]Congratulations. You obviously chose girls well or managed to convey that you were knowlegable. However if you read this thread a lot, you would see reports of girls trying upsell and attempting rip offs. I still say that World is a safer place for newbies, as long as they choose very sweet and polite girls, and avoid any aggressive or pushy girls. Doesn't mean that guys cannot do very well at Oase, it is just a little more challenging to find the very best girls at Oase. At World, it seems fairly easy, and percentage of dud girls seems low, to me, and that is of course completely ignoring the fat, ugly, sillies or pushy girls. Even girls that would need to pay me, still get customers somehow. Some make up for plain looks with great service I would have to guess. The worst 3 or 4 girls I ever had at World don't work there any more. I think really bad girls don't survive long in World (maybe they can if really hot looking but I don't know who they are).

All the four girls I hired just over eight days ago at Oase asked me if I would like to compliment the thirty minute session with anal and while being quite partial to a dual hole activity, the additional cost of €50.00 made a decision to decline an easy one.

Three out of the four of my chosen ones gave an excellent service which included BBBJ in the Kino & then room, passionate tongue kissing and sex in at least four positions all for €50.00, why would I want to spend another fifty just to root her up the bum.

I did buy all of them an expensive drink at the end though & they seemed to appreciate that as well as being ready for it.

Recommend Carla, petite blonde Romanian, for a great experience. Friendly, cute, and the best deep throat.

Frank12

What is the date of the Oase Christmas party this year? I looked at the website but couldn't see a mention of it there. Thanks for the info!

[QUOTE=Pentire; 1503063]All the four girls I hired just over eight days ago at Oase asked me if I would like to compliment the thirty minute session with anal and while being quite partial to a dual hole activity, the additional cost of €50. 00 made a decision to decline an easy one.

Three out of the four of my chosen ones gave an excellent service which included BBBJ in the Kino & then room, passionate tongue kissing and sex in at least four positions all for €50. 00, why would I want to spend another fifty just to root her up the bum.

I did buy all of them an expensive drink at the end though & they seemed to appreciate that as well as being ready for it.[/QUOTE]Yes 50 is too much extra for A- especially considering that the base price itself is just 60. Is there so much extra effort involved for the girl. I do have met a couple of girls who told me - 'once you get used to it - it is no different'. But understand it is the going rate- is it negotiable? I think every thing is negotiable.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1503020]Congratulations. You obviously chose girls well or managed to convey that you were knowlegable. However if you read this thread a lot, you would see reports of girls trying upsell and attempting rip offs. I still say that World is a safer place for newbies, as long as they choose very sweet and polite girls, and avoid any aggressive or pushy girls. Doesn't mean that guys cannot do very well at Oase, it is just a little more challenging to find the very best girls at Oase. At World, it seems fairly easy, and percentage of dud girls seems low, to me, and that is of course completely ignoring the fat, ugly, sillies or pushy girls. Even girls that would need to pay me, still get customers somehow. Some make up for plain looks with great service I would have to guess. The worst 3 or 4 girls I ever had at World don't work there any more. I think really bad girls don't survive long in World (maybe they can if really hot looking but I don't know who they are).[/QUOTE]Syzygies:

For first time both to FKK and FRA. Is World reachable (with ease- I do have the directions) from Central. As compared to Oase etc- seems farther and am a little bit whatever.

I have 2 +1 days need to decide on 2 places.

Thanks

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1503163]What is the date of the Oase Christmas party this year? I looked at the website but couldn't see a mention of it there. Thanks for the info![/QUOTE]I only remember that it used to be about the same weekend as World, which is 7th of December. But they might have cancelled it?

According to fkk24dotde it is on the 14th

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1503236]Syzygies:

For first time both to FKK and FRA. Is World reachable (with ease- I do have the directions) from Central. As compared to Oase etc- seems farther and am a little bit whatever.

I have 2 +1 days need to decide on 2 places.

Thanks[/QUOTE]There are two trains per hour to Giessen, around 45 minutes and 14. 70 euro each way. When you get to Giessen you have two options, take a bus for under 2 euro which takes about an hour- (I forget the bus number but Lich is the destination and the stop is Garbenteich Sportsplatz). From there its a 5 minute walk to World and there are signs pointing the way.

Otherwise, you take a taxi. If you take one of the minivan taxis, its a fixed 10 euro fare, at least it was last year. If you take a regular car taxi, it's 18 or 20 euro one way. At night leaving, you'll have to take whatever taxi shows up unless you get a card from the minivan dudes to call.

The last train back to Frankfurt is 8 minutes after midnight and the next is at like 4:30 so you must essentially close the club. Don't miss the 4:30 on a Sunday morning or you'll wait until 06:30 for the next train . Been there, done that, bought 10 teeshirts. It's OK, they serve food at World right up to closing time and you get to listen to "Nothing Else Matters" by Metallica.

Beffen

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1503231]Yes 50 is too much extra for A- especially considering that the base price itself is just 60. Is there so much extra effort involved for the girl. I do have met a couple of girls who told me. 'once you get used to it. It is no different'. But understand it is the going rate- is it negotiable? I think every thing is negotiable.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Base price is 50€/30min. Anal is 100€ extra. CIM is 50€ extra.

HB

Thanks. BTW, didn't mean to question your judgement or anything. Just stating my experience, which is exactly one single time, so very limited data points. Also, I was very undemanding so the chance for upsell was less. And your reports are consistently helpful, so thanks Syzy.

Just a quick Q. Does World have as much public couch action as Oase? One reason I was somewhat disappointed with Sharks was that all the girls told me there is no public couch action (except kissing) possible at Sharks. This is the part I liked best at Oase. How does world stack up on that metric? To see others freely indulging in couch sex, and to participate myself w / o inhibitions is a big part of fkk thrill for me.

One other question I had which no one answered was regarding how often the girls get tested for std and what is the club policy and German policy in general. Does the club kick out a girl if testing positive for HIV for sure, but even other std? Does the German government tie the club license to the clubs monitoring the girls on std?

How can prostitution be legal if health safety is not tied in?

And how often do the girls take a wash and rinse mouth? Kissing a girl is fun but if she did nt rinse after her prior blow job, then that is yuck. I saw them go into wash rooms after each session, so I hope they clean after each session.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1503020]Congratulations. You obviously chose girls well or managed to convey that you were knowlegable. However if you read this thread a lot, you would see reports of girls trying upsell and attempting rip offs. I still say that World is a safer place for newbies, as long as they choose very sweet and polite girls, and avoid any aggressive or pushy girls. Doesn't mean that guys cannot do very well at Oase, it is just a little more challenging to find the very best girls at Oase. At World, it seems fairly easy, and percentage of dud girls seems low, to me, and that is of course completely ignoring the fat, ugly, sillies or pushy girls. Even girls that would need to pay me, still get customers somehow. Some make up for plain looks with great service I would have to guess. The worst 3 or 4 girls I ever had at World don't work there any more. I think really bad girls don't survive long in World (maybe they can if really hot looking but I don't know who they are).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1502886]BB:

Thanks for the way advice, but by the way what is 'dessous' never heard of it before.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Dessous means lingerie.

Hello gentlemen,

I have arranged an airport layover which will allow me to visit a club in the Frankfurt airport area from opening time until about 5 pm on Thursday December 5. I have read all the reports and the discussion about the merits of different clubs and would appreciate your recommendations. I will have a car so reasonable driving distance is no problem. I know that staying later or on a weekend would be better but I have what I have timewise and cannot change it. I have been to Palace a few times before and would like to try something different. I speak pretty good German and feel comfortable managing the women's advances and not being taken advantage of. Because I have 6 hours and will be getting back on a plane at 2000 I would like a place where I can relax, have a shower and a soak and a real massage, a decent lunch, and get fucked a few times! So a comfortable place to hang out is as important as being in the company of interesting women. I prefer slim women if that helps in your recommendation. I am thinking of Oase or Sharks or Mainhattan and have not been to any of these.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Yes I have cross posted this in different forums. For those of you who only read one!

[QUOTE=Jnpr30; 1503325]Just a quick Q. Does World have as much public couch action as Oase? One reason I was somewhat disappointed with Sharks was that all the girls told me there is no public couch action (except kissing) possible at Sharks. This is the part I liked best at Oase. How does world stack up on that metric? To see others freely indulging in couch sex, and to participate myself w / o inhibitions is a big part of fkk thrill for me.

And how often do the girls take a wash and rinse mouth? Kissing a girl is fun but if she did nt rinse after her prior blow job, then that is yuck. I saw them go into wash rooms after each session, so I hope they clean after each session.[/QUOTE]I thought I saw a couple fucking on a couch upstairs at Sharks. I wasn't that close though so could be wrong but it certainly looked like it from downstairs. I guess HB will know the Shark actual rules. I don't. There is always the kino in each FKK or at Oase there is outdoor sex during the warmer weather. I have had sex outside with Dora (Oase). Unfortunately I was finding it a little difficult as the couch was not level and a bit cramped. Eventually I decided to find a more standard bed. Maybe I am not young enough. Also had sex in World kino when rooms wait was bad. That was level and adequate space. Normally attracts a fair audience of "raincoat" brigade who want to get close, perve and maybe wank too. Too bad for them if the lighting is not good. I don't think I saw anything beyond DFK in World main lounge except during party "gang bangs" that I don't like to watch. Don't know the rules.

Girls are taking other person's cum in mouth so why not you too? LOL. If it is so yuck then I guess you would not dream of asking for CIM. Okay the difference is you pay for it, but its only a 50. Not surprising that some girls do not do CIM and some don't like to be ass-fucked either (just the same as you wouldn't like it LOL). You can expect girls to be thoroughly cleaning all that "yuck" out, but if you have microbe phobias, better stay away from FKK. Switch of your imagination of what the girl has been doing before, and enjoy.

Any club you go, you get a general vibe of the club having rip-off girls or honest girls. At the NRW for example, ACA, PHG, and Mondial, the girls are new so the service is YMMV, but they usually don't ask for CIM because they really do not want to do it even for extra because they are new and not broken in to the extras for money. The girls at those clubs are not sharky and provide honest services, an experienced monger can sense that. I thought even GT now with the new girls there, that the service level is much better. Being sharked for extras will be there at Oase like any other clubs, but more so at FRA clubs in general give that all extras are double NRW prices. At the NRW extras are 25 for CIM and 50 for Anal, and I have a hard time finding girls for such extras especially anal.

If CIM is 50, it's pretty much 30min session in just one swallow of man juice, I think girls would be more incline to do it at FRA because of such prices. Same with anal being 100e (two rooms) as long as your dick doesn't look too big. I don't do CIM or Anal at FRA because of such outrageous prices(relative I know, but relative to German FKKs since sexual service pricing is lower there).

The thing is Palace is notorious for being a rip-off joint, and even experienced mongers like I have hard time getting good services at 50. Other clubs in the area will have up-sellers just not as much as the Palace.

About the 50% moving on to other clubs, it's not surprising since when I attended there I would find some nice new girls show up every trip, but the new girls there are not as nice as before. I would still attend even though I do not like the food system and the new price if they had nice new girls. I don't know what happened. If they pick up again based on reports by regulars there, I will consider it. For now, I will only attend the NRW clubs since my favorite girls there has me coming back.

I've been reading some recent reports of men being ripped-off or sharked there, but I've seen it happen before when I attended regularly. When I was new at Oase way back, I was a bit naive and spend more money than I should have. One of my good girls I've seen her do that to some men they think it's easy to shark. She did not do that to me. You just need to play the same game so that you are not easy prey. I think some that get ripped-off at Oase will get ripped-off anywhere else IMO. Advice for those that are prone to getting ripped-off, first off know the prices and services, talk to the girl, and ask if they provide DFK or GFE. Also, the way she interacts with you is a sign what kind of service she will give, some will open up to more touching and etc. (if you touch them more and they are receptive it's a good sign) and invest their emotional energy on you, and after they do that you ask if they do this at that, and by that time it's hard for them to back out and mostly likely agree to DFK or other services that you seek. This works well for me.

Keep us all updated on this club, so that we know if this club will ever turn around to being the best of FRA again.

You are right, there is some amount of double standard and hypocrisy in my stance no doubt. The difference is, the girl is taking the juice from a person of opposite sex, the issue for me would be kissing a girl after she blew a man and didn't rinse. Don't think it happens, I assume they take care of their health for their own sake.

(I guess I shouldn't have used the word yuck, each to his own. In reality, what the girls do is hard, for just 50 euros as you pointed out, and I do respect them and feel bad for them, that's why I think tipping is very much warranted in the clubs especially to girls who make you happy. Heck, here in the US we give 20% tips for dinners and sometimes the service is just so so, and on some business dinners we end up tipping more than $150 for a group of ten, it is crazy. In comparison, tipping a ten or twenty to a girl for doing such intimate things is perfectly warranted)

The bigger concern for me is the std testing policy in the clubs, and how diligent they are and what thy do with girls who test positive on something like HIV. I still haven't seen if there is anything definitive and official on this issue I can read up.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1503445]I thought I saw a couple fucking on a couch upstairs at Sharks. I wasn't that close though so could be wrong but it certainly looked like it from downstairs. I guess HB will know the Shark actual rules. I don't. There is always the kino in each FKK or at Oase there is outdoor sex during the warmer weather. I have had sex outside with Dora (Oase). Unfortunately I was finding it a little difficult as the couch was not level and a bit cramped. Eventually I decided to find a more standard bed. Maybe I am not young enough. Also had sex in World kino when rooms wait was bad. That was level and adequate space. Normally attracts a fair audience of "raincoat" brigade who want to get close, perve and maybe wank too. Too bad for them if the lighting is not good. I don't think I saw anything beyond DFK in World main lounge except during party "gang bangs" that I don't like to watch. Don't know the rules.

Girls are taking other person's cum in mouth so why not you too? LOL. If it is so yuck then I guess you would not dream of asking for CIM. Okay the difference is you pay for it, but its only a 50. Not surprising that some girls do not do CIM and some don't like to be ass-fucked either (just the same as you wouldn't like it LOL). You can expect girls to be thoroughly cleaning all that "yuck" out, but if you have microbe phobias, better stay away from FKK. Switch of your imagination of what the girl has been doing before, and enjoy.[/QUOTE]

Anyone heard of this club- [url]www.dassudfass.de/site/index.php[/url]

It is next to my hotel here, any info will be appreciated (just my luck)

Thanks

[QUOTE=Pentire; 1503063]All the four girls I hired just over eight days ago at Oase asked me if I would like to compliment the thirty minute session with anal and while being quite partial to a dual hole activity, the additional cost of €50. 00 made a decision to decline an easy one.

Three out of the four of my chosen ones gave an excellent service which included BBBJ in the Kino & then room, passionate tongue kissing and sex in at least four positions all for €50. 00, why would I want to spend another fifty just to root her up the bum.

I did buy all of them an expensive drink at the end though & they seemed to appreciate that as well as being ready for it.[/QUOTE]As of 3 months ago the price of anal was 100 extra on top of the cost of the time spent. 50 euro is new price? Has Oase girl downgrade their pricing cause that would be real news to me.

[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1503586]Anyone heard of this club-

[url]www.dassudfass.de/site/index.php[/url]

It is next to my hotel here, any info will be appreciated (just my luck)

Thanks[/QUOTE]Oldest club in Germany I believe.

That's all I know though!

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1503315]Base price is 50€/30min. Anal is 100€ extra. CIM is 50€ extra.

HB[/QUOTE]Pricing structure is still in place.

HB

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1503565]I do respect them and feel bad for them, that's why I think tipping is very much warranted in the clubs especially to girls who make you happy. Heck, here in the US we give 20% tips for dinners and sometimes the service is just so so, and on some business dinners we end up tipping more than $150 for a group of ten, it is crazy. In comparison, tipping a ten or twenty to a girl for doing such intimate things is perfectly warranted)[/QUOTE]No, tipping is not warranted. The price is 50 and you must pay 50. If tipping was warranted the price would be 40 and you'd be expected to tip 10 on top of that.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1503565](I guess I shouldn't have used the word yuck, each to his own. In reality, what the girls do is hard, for just 50 euros as you pointed out, and I do respect them and feel bad for them, that's why I think tipping is very much warranted in the clubs especially to girls who make you happy. Heck, here in the US we give 20% tips for dinners and sometimes the service is just so so, and on some business dinners we end up tipping more than $150 for a group of ten, it is crazy. In comparison, tipping a ten or twenty to a girl for doing such intimate things is perfectly warranted)[/QUOTE]I am American, and it was sort of weird not to tip at first but I and my wallet got used to it really quick! Excessive tipping of service industry professionals is just an American tradition that stemmed from the belief that it was acceptable to pay waiters and waitress shit wages, give them zero health care, and then incentivize them to provide better service by paying 20% tips. In Europe, the onus is on the employer to pay their wait staff a sufficient wage-not pass it off to the customer.

In Europe, I generally will give a 1-2 EUR tip if the bill comes about 20-30 EUR. A larger 100EUR bill, is like a 5 EUR tip. This is what I do in Italy too, when its customary for the staff to come to your table 5-6 times (drinks, antipasti, first plate (pasta) , second plate (meat / fish) , dessert, apertiv)

If you want to show appreciation the girl, pay for an extra 30 minutes in the room after you cum. Essentially you are paying them so they can rest while on the clock. Or buy them a drink.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;1503663]In Europe, I generally will give a 1-2 EUR tip if the bill comes about 20-30 EUR. A larger 100EUR bill, is like a 5 EUR tip.[/QUOTE]Actually this is the lowest end. German people do give 5. 10 % tips in the restaurant.

[QUOTE=SharkEater;1503673]Actually this is the lowest end. German people do give 5. 10 % tips in the restaurant.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the correction SharkEater. Maybe I will aim at the middle of this 5 to 10 percent range next time. In America, it is customary to tip the bartender even though you walk up to the bar and get the drink yourself. Although that may be just to impress girls or to influence them to mix you a stronger drink. I haven't seen this in Europe.

The posts below are spot on. Tipping is not warranted, it ruins the prices for everybody, tipping is not compulsory and not customary in Fkks or anywhere in the sex industry really. And when there are tips they are usually much smaller than in America and only given out when you were thoroughly satisfied. And I personally find the American way quite questionable exactly for the reasons outlined by McAdonis, but that is off topic here. When there are tips they are on the order of 10 percent but there are also many Europeans who do never give out any tips.

Sudfass is one of the oldest FKK clubs but I believe is closed or has to close soon to make way for construction, but reportedly it had been crushed in recent years by the newer, bigger, better equipped clubs in the area anyway.

In a restaurant in Germany you are expected to tip. Not in the 15 or 20 percent range, but for a 100€ bill you can give 5 or 10€ tip depending on the service and food quality.

In a FKK club I do only tip if the service was extraordinary, otherwise it's the standard price.

HB

Don't think it is terribly off-topic as long as there aren't twenty posts in succession on tipping, LOL. Many of us travel often both for this hobby and for our professional live, so this is good general knowledge. Also, I understand the guilt my American countryman feels, but at the same time he should not ruin the established prices for the rest of us.

For those visiting America, it is good to know that waiters only get a base salary of $2-5 dollars per hour there, so they are very dependent on tips:

[url]http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/08/irs-tax-waiter-tips-automatic-gratuities[/url]

[QUOTE=Citizen Kane; 1503608]Oldest club in Germany I believe.

That's all I know though![/QUOTE]I checked it out, it is just next doors. It is a relatively small and sort off rundown kind of a place. The entrance is 25E (happy hour 20). I went in just to enquire. Saw a couple of naked girls in the reception area. Very average (maybe below). The receptionist said in an hour or so dozen more girls will be there,

More interesting there is also some 'booth' next door. Essentially walkin sex-20E for 20min (some extra upsells also). Average kind of girls. It seems you can get into the bldg walk the floors-knock at the doors if you like the girl- just do it- another innovative business model.

So my area is teeming with sex- rather Frankfurt is.

Guys I made it. Worked out the logistics including buying the train ticket from the machine with help of a police woman (none else).

Will file a detailed report in a couple if days (tired and can only type so much on my Tablet).

But overall 2 thumbs up- did not at all feel out of place at all as newbie, and great lineup (on a Tuesday- maybe it is the messe).

Tomorrow Sharks or Mainhatten!

[QUOTE=Amriptna111;1503599]As of 3 months ago the price of anal was 100 extra on top of the cost of the time spent. 50 euro is new price? Has Oase girl downgrade their pricing cause that would be real news to me.[/QUOTE]Anal is 100 extra (not 50) and not negotiable.