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[QUOTE=MaraCucho;2541028]Going point by point:

*Is Venezuela open to tourists: I actually do not know how's the current situation. Last night I searched "LOS roques" out of curiosity on twitter and they do seem to be receiving to tourists. I'll try to ask around and see if I can get a more solid answer.

*Are Americans welcome: Man, 99% of the population don't give a crap about any hostilities our stupid government may have towards the US. Also, the people in the island are super-chill and friendly since their livehood depends almost entirely on the tourists. On the other hand, I think Americans still need a visa to enter Venezuela, I don't recall that situation changing.

*Low-intermediate spanish: Probably will be enough. Just bear in mind that few people around here speak english. Even people you would assume that *should* be english speakers (like, the person at the counter of a tourist agency), odds are that at best they barely know the language..[/QUOTE]I thought that you would like the red shirt, jajaja. But no prints. Had a class and we did a skit on Venezuelan television journalist and we wore the red shirts. It was during Hugo's time.

I'm sure that I'll get by with my Spanish. It's actually better for me if nobody or few speak English. I need the total immersion.

Thanks for all your input MC! I need to check on visa and a few other things. Hasta luego.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2541035]I am an American citizen.

Last time I looked, in order for an American citizen to get a visa to visit Venezuela, they need an invitation letter from a citizen of Venezuela. Then they need to meet in person with an official at a Venezuelan Embassy. Many, if not all, Venezuelan Embassies in the USA are closed due to the political situation. I think there might be one open in Texas. Otherwise, he will need to find a Venezuelan Embassy in a third country.[/QUOTE]Thanks MR. I was, kind of afraid of this being the situation. I'll look into it in greater detail. An embassy in Colombia may be the answer. Will post anything I find out. Politics aside, Venezuela seems like an awesome country with lots of natural beauty and mostly friendly people and hate to say it but few USA or Euro mongers. Not that all are bad but it only takes a few bad apples.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2541385]I thought that you would like the red shirt, jajaja. But no prints. Had a class and we did a skit on Venezuelan television journalist and we wore the red shirts. It was during Hugo's time.

I'm sure that I'll get by with my Spanish. It's actually better for me if nobody or few speak English. I need the total immersion.

Thanks for all your input MC! I need to check on visa and a few other things. Hasta luego.[/QUOTE]I did some inquiries and was told that the island is closed, no flights carrying tourists have been allowed this years. The inhabitants have been in talk with the government to open the island starting this Semana Santa, but nothing definitive so far. Man that REALLY sucks for the people in LOS roques, they depend almost entirely on the tourism business.

[QUOTE=MaraCucho;2541521]I did some inquiries and was told that the island is closed, no flights carrying tourists have been allowed this years. The inhabitants have been in talk with the government to open the island starting this Semana Santa, but nothing definitive so far. Man that REALLY sucks for the people in LOS roques, they depend almost entirely on the tourism business.[/QUOTE]Bad news but hopefully over soon. One good thing is that they should have been isolated from COVID and all are well. I think from what I could understand on the Venezuelan Consulate site that no visas for US residents at this time unless they are Venezuelan citizens.

All good my friend, I'll be there one day. Thanks for all your help!

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2541739]Bad news but hopefully over soon. One good thing is that they should have been isolated from COVID and all are well. I think from what I could understand on the Venezuelan Consulate site that no visas for US residents at this time unless they are Venezuelan citizens.

All good my friend, I'll be there one day. Thanks for all your help![/QUOTE]There's a famous American YouTuber who just went to Venezuela recently. So I wouldn't count it out.

I'll bet you could pay a Venezuelan girl from Seeking Arrangement to give you an invite letter.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2545070]There's a famous American YouTuber who just went to Venezuela recently. So I wouldn't count it out.

I'll bet you could pay a Venezuelan girl from Seeking Arrangement to give you an invite letter.[/QUOTE]Will check out the video, should be easy to find. I also need to see about the letter since I didn't see anything on the embassy's site for that.

Thanks for the info. Have a Venezuelan acquaintance here with family there so probably a better option.

[QUOTE=ChuchoLoco;2545604]Will check out the video, should be easy to find. I also need to see about the letter since I didn't see anything on the embassy's site for that.

Thanks for the info. Have a Venezuelan acquaintance here with family there so probably a better option.[/QUOTE]Man, that suggestion of paying a girl on SA to write the letter. Not sure about that. I mean, those girls are there to earn an easy buck, and I can see one taking advantage of the situation and just asking for more and more.

Honestly, if that letter thing is really needed (I've never heard of such a thing, if it is real then it must be a recent development), I could do it free of charge.

[QUOTE=MaraCucho;2547842]Man, that suggestion of paying a girl on SA to write the letter. Not sure about that. I mean, those girls are there to earn an easy buck, and I can see one taking advantage of the situation and just asking for more and more.

Honestly, if that letter thing is really needed (I've never heard of such a thing, if it is real then it must be a recent development), I could do it free of charge.[/QUOTE]Didn't see anything either on Embassy's site about a letter but Don't worry, I wouldn't do that anyway and probably wouldn't even ask an acquaintance's relative for a letter. I'l go when it's all approved and above board. I like to travel with no chance of being caught doing something under false pretenses or in any way that could go bad. How would I explain getting a letter from Caracas or anywhere and going directly to the islands and not even meeting or knowing the letter writer in Caracas? I'm sure I would be questioned thoroughly.

I've waited this long, I can wait a little longer. I went to Colombia in 1973 for the first time when I was 22. Saw a few Gringo who took dumb chances and didn't listen to my stay safe advice and they all had run ins with the authorities and I stayed sano why salvo then and still do but I've been lucky too.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/chimboteprensapopular/videos/791799094757439[/URL]

The authorities have been investigating the video that circulates on social networks, in which two foreigners throw from a bridge and kill a young man who said he was from Huánuco (Peru).

The video was uploaded to the TikTok social network through the Captustus account.

Due to the accent of their voices, the alleged murderers are Venezuelans, who, for no apparent reason, charged him by hand and threw him over the precipice, then celebrated that he had died.

Back some years ago I was almost making a trip but didn't. Now I would but it's impossible. There is also the risk thing as things haven't gotten any better over the last few years.

But still, Venezuela is in my head as a land far and apart where the women are all little miss universe and it's also beautiful geographically. So, I am looking at it as a prospect to pounce on as soon as they manage to overthrow this leftist government and the unholy link to Iran. Not happening anytime soon but so it's in my head.

Now people here said: you don't have to go to Venezuela or deal with women in Venezuela since they are all over in Colombia and Panama. I thought about it and figured that no, that's not quite true. Those who are in Colombia and Panama are mostly battle hardened conquistadoras, those who are still in Venezuela are less of this obvious kind. They have a different mind set.

So I meet them on SA, and there are a few I started conversing with, and one of them just blew right under my skin. There are all types:

1) the dreamy girl who is looking for a husband more or less
2) the online entrepreneur who starts ranting at you within the first few messages on WhatsApp that you're not already making yourself useful
3) the undecided girl, definitely would do stuff for money but still talks about relationship
4) the ones who are pressing for financial assistance fairly soon

Now about that assistance, it's quite an easy shtick to use for them, because things really are tough in VE. And also, $20 go a long way, so it's really not a big deal. Like I would never be an online simp throwing money at cam girls for example, but in this case I find myself considering giving some to take some of the pressure off, and see what will happen next.

But there is still the question what I even want from them if I can`t visit. So there is where bringing her to somewhere outside is an idea. There is a common story I have heard more than one say:

"I have a visa but my passport is expired and it costs money to get a new one"

This is peculiar since they can not tell me what kind of "visa" they are talking about. Visa to which country? And even if that is a line they all learn to use to set up more money being sent, it's still curious why they would talk about visa? I wonder if Venezuela has some sort of exit visa, like other communist states had (and still have), where you couldn`t leave? I'll inform myself about the passport issue and what's involved. If you know, please feel free to share.

I feel a tickle in bringing one or more of these girls somewhere nice to enjoy for a week. Since I am wired to enjoy the emotional connection more than just the fuck and go type of thing. This is playing to my taste. And this is why I decided that picking a Venezolana from there is better than looking for them in the puta scene in Panama and Colombia (not much looking necessary I hear.) The semi-pro gold-digger is different, because they at least try to create the full GFE and I have found there be a pleasant grey zone between real and fake GF, you can`t even tell, aren`t they all? The psychology of this is such that the less you are in the hard P4P business, you really are attractive to them for what you can do for them, so when they give you the experience they actually feel something. It's more enjoyable for both sides which is a win-win.

So there is this one who bombed herself right under my skin the way she looks, to me a 10 and just my type, and despite this unreal way of it coming about, I am enjoying falling for this with open eyes. Like I tell myself all the points that its not real, and yet I go for it anyway, because I know that even when in the end it turns out not real, it still is pleasant as if it was real. And when something feels totally real, and later turns out not having been, why even worry about the reality? That's what I have resolved, and this is why I am pursuing this angle with some pleasure. I'll move to some video "auditions" next, to test the chemistry.

The semi-pro nature is definitely different, for example, that girl who is about to crawl under my skin, into my head and into my heart, she actually seems to hold a real job occupying her from early morning to after 7 pm. Just got a message from her during her lunch break. Yesterday I thought she had just flaked out from me chasing after some other dudes, but no, after all sorts of negative thoughts and probing questions, I am pretty confident now that she really does work all day every day. And so you see, that is an entire different type of girl here. One you would never find in Colombia or Panama.

Then I wonder where I would take them. Riohacha is a place that's not even too far from the CO-VE land border. I wonder what the availability of overland travel is? Also, domestic flights in Colombia and between VE and CO, where is a good site to find out about that? Kayak.com doesn't even carry the Caracas airport right now.

I checked where Venezolanas can travel without a visa, and DR and Panama recently put in restrictions. There is also Brazil, which is more of my turf where I get around better being fluent in the language. Brazil has some restrictions for Venezolanas, but it might be doable. Seems like CO is the closest, although if it involves air travel it matters less. I wonder if there are any direct flights from VE to San Andres islands?

Shit, I wasn't going to immediately go from one emotional attachment to another one, but man this one really got me now, ... as the old rock song goes. But it's so much fun.

Spain is full of the hottest Venezuelan escort refugees. This is the favorite one for many of us, although she is in her 30's now. But there are many like her. The relatively wealthier, more sophisticated Venezuelans managed to get to Europe and many do sex work.

[URL]http://www.putasbarcelona.es/30195_xesca_688-398-465.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2567168]Back some years ago I was almost making a trip but didn't. Now I would but it's impossible. There is also the risk thing as things haven't gotten any better over the last few years.

But still, Venezuela is in my head as a land far and apart where the women are all little miss universe and it's also beautiful geographically. So, I am looking at it as a prospect to pounce on as soon as they manage to overthrow this leftist government and the unholy link to Iran. Not happening anytime soon but so it's in my head.

Now people here said: you don't have to go to Venezuela or deal with women in Venezuela since they are all over in Colombia and Panama. I thought about it and figured that no, that's not quite true. Those who are in Colombia and Panama are mostly battle hardened conquistadoras, those who are still in Venezuela are less of this obvious kind. They have a different mind set.

So I meet them on SA, and there are a few I started conversing with, and one of them just blew right under my skin. There are all types:.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2567177]Spain is full of the hottest Venezuelan escort refugees. ... more sophisticated Venezuelans managed to get to Europe and many do sex work.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the pointer. Interesting when next I should be in Europe. But it is really besides my point. Not that you were obliged to agree with me of course.

My point was that the Venezolanas that are in Venezuela are of a different kind. Not talking about the battle hardened pros. In fact, it could be that those are even in short supply now that most have left for better places.

I am talking of those who stayed behind and are rather semi-pro or non-pro. We can find them on SA but I wondered what to do with them? I find myself messaging many saying "oh I wish I could come" but that isn't the answer. They respond, but what where the heck will we go from there?

By the way, now I got the quote from one about what this passport and visa business costs. And I told her in friendly terms that I simply don't believe it. She said: USD 250 for the passport and USD 350 for this mystical "visa" for which I still have no explanation what it is supposed to be.

That to me indicates I am being ripped off. No way VE government fees are that high! Heck in Brazil a passport costs about 400 BRL, maybe 500 with the birth record and other stuff that might have to be issued first. But nowhere near USD 250 . Although, thinking of when the USDBRL forex was quoted at around 2, one might get to that level. And VE is well known for overestimating the value of its currency. Could it be that she was not lying after all?

Yeah, so this ain't working. Insta-love bait with fake medical bills. Like I'm some kind of idiot you can play with falsified medical bills and filtered and censored photos. Come on Baby. Thanks for saving my time by revealing this sooner rather than later.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2567903]Yeah, so this ain't working. Insta-love bait with fake medical bills. Like I'm some kind of idiot you can play with falsified medical bills and filtered and censored photos. Come on Baby. Thanks for saving my time by revealing this sooner rather than later.[/QUOTE]Stinky, my opinion as a local: Discard those sob stories, no girl is going to be in SA with the intention of paying medical bills, that's just a cheap way to appear innocent and desperate and incite an emotional response. There was a guy that I helped around while he visited Venezuela a few years ago and he had success meeting girls through SA, but they all were very upfront in what they were looking for. There was one girl that pulled the same shit as you describe, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it actually is the same person (and not a girl at all!) that is still scamming unsuspecting victims. Fortunately that guy quickly became aware of what was going on and cut all ties after minimal losses.

As for the $250 passport, if I recall correctly a new venezuelan passport costs $200 and to renovate your old one is $100. No idea what's up with those extra $50, perhaps she is adding up extra expenses like getting taxi cabs and lunch while in waiting (there is a LOT of that) in the line at the SAIME. But why not mention it? About the visa, yeah, we do need a travel visa to visit any of our neighbors, it's been like that for a while. And there are other requisites as well like proving where are you going, where are you staying, and that you have enough $$$ to pay for your travel. It is honestly not easy for us to leave, nobody wants to deal with us Venezuelans now that our country is in ruins.

[QUOTE=MaraCucho;2567960]There was one girl that pulled the same shit as you describe, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it actually is the same person (and not a girl at all!) that is still scamming unsuspecting victims.[/QUOTE]Exactly my thought. Analyzing the situation there is nothing whatsoever to even believe that this isn't some guy pulling off that stunt, and that he has some girlfriend who will from time to time help out if something needs to be shown.

It's textbook playbook.

And the only way to make this end is to walk away. Because the dude knows that as long as the fish is taking the bait, there is a chance to still get that hook in. You can argue until the cows come home. There will always be some excuse but never the simplest thing to just send some friggen unedited foto of the present situation.

It's a shell game. The situation around the dispute is what reels you in. The fact that you're not walking away.

I think Venezolanas on these sites are hopeless. It's just bullshit.