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  1. #6359
    Holy crap, so I've only been to Burgos one other time and had a GF in my hotel already so couldn't really partake and just got drunk. I spent hours going from bar to bar in AC basically just throwing my hands up and saying whatever I'll take her. Burgos I went to one place at 8, saw plenty that I would have probably taken but one that really was my type. I was in and out in 15 minutes. If I consider what I make per hour and factor it in to time savings, and use that to adjust the price from AC to Burgos. Burgos is way cheaper for me. Now I get if you sit around drinking and stuff that might not be the case, I can only drink a couple even if I am drinking so doesn't really matter for me. But I was shocked at the jump in quality, I remember AC having better quality in my head. LA Cafe is still more my scene than anything but haven't seen a lot there that peaked my interest. Cafe Havana might be the better route for me but last time I tried there I played the cheap pinching pennies game which I've stopped owing because of regretting missing out on so many for less money than I would tip a good casino dealer. Unfortunately I don't like any hotels around Burgos so I will have to taxi them back into green belt area. Not sure the name of the place it was on the green belt end on a side street. 2900 bar fine 3500 for girl.

  2. #6358
    Quote Originally Posted by Genmax  [View Original Post]
    The issue is a few of my colleagues will be staying with me at the hotel next week. What ever happened to the front desk just calling the room to let the guest up?

    I read a few pages back Cotton is closed? Any other good clubs hit up at EDSA?
    Girls come and go so quickly, you pretty much need to take a peek in each club. Don't overlook the bar at the top of the stairs, I had a nice surprise in there last time.

    Pitstop and firehouse are perennial favorites but they were disappointing earlier this year.

  3. #6357
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    The condo's use that method also. The card gets you to your floor and common floors (pool, gym) only. Why can't you bring the girl up after meeting in the lobby?
    The issue is a few of my colleagues will be staying with me at the hotel next week. What ever happened to the front desk just calling the room to let the guest up?

    I read a few pages back Cotton is closed? Any other good clubs hit up at EDSA?

  4. #6356
    Quote Originally Posted by Genmax  [View Original Post]
    Recently stayed at the Shangrala last month. Noticed the elevators at the Shangrla now require keycards to get up to the rooms. How would the girls come up to the room without a card?
    Well the standard method is they go to reception. Reception calls you and asks if you are expecting miss sweet thing. You say yes, they take her ID then they swipe her into the elevator and she can go to your floor. After she finishes she goes to reception. They ring and ask is it OK for her to leave. You say yes and they hand back the ID. The other option is you meet her and take her up.

  5. #6355
    Quote Originally Posted by Genmax  [View Original Post]
    Recently stayed at the Shangrala last month. Noticed the elevators at the Shangrla now require keycards to get up to the rooms. How would the girls come up to the room without a card?
    The condo's use that method also. The card gets you to your floor and common floors (pool, gym) only. Why can't you bring the girl up after meeting in the lobby?

  6. #6354
    Quote Originally Posted by BoyzRule  [View Original Post]
    What would you recommend be best for highest quality girls to go out on a date and have a couple hours of fun in the hotel? I am new to the forum and have done quite a few pages of RTFF. Here is what I think is my best bets:

    1. On Burgos: Plan be, Bottoms and Kojax seem to be the top bars with best girls.

    2. Online dating sites like PL etc. This is not my thing as I neither have the time or the inclination to go find and wait for someone.

    Are there any other avenues to get high quality, no drama girls to go out on dinners / club / dancing / drinking and action later? Last time I was in Manila, someone took me to a KTV (I think classmate) and there were bunch of good looking girls that we paid the Bar fine to take out. I don't remember how much we paid for it but IIRC it was around $200 to $250 (USD) and I was able to charge it to my credit card..
    Recently stayed at the Shangrala last month. Noticed the elevators at the Shangrla now require keycards to get up to the rooms. How would the girls come up to the room without a card?

  7. #6353
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Ill agree one is $30 and the other $200 but where in Jakarta are you getting near naked girls having their tits sucked and giving you a BJ in the bar?
    The Malio Club. My favorite bordello in the world! I love that place.

  8. #6352
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Koreans and Japanese are known to sit on their hands and concentrate on a girl's shoulder rather than tits, ass, and DFK girls. Will the girls there actually stop your wandering hands and mouth if they wander? What about other bars in Burgos? Is there limited hands on action in the bars?

    Thinking of going but if it's tame may need to rethink my plans. How many drinks do they girls devour per hour? I have a 3 or 4 drink per hour rule for gogo girls in Thailand. Will Burgos and EDSA girls follow that rule?
    Quote Originally Posted by WhatDHell  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion the best girls and value is to be found in Indonesia, if you take away the language issue. YMMV.

    Short answer, I think it's definitely worth experiencing. I can tell you that many times I am in a Gogo in Thailand and missing Philippines. I too enjoyed the Gogo scene more than most.
    Ill agree one is $30 and the other $200 but where in Jakarta are you getting near naked girls having their tits sucked and giving you a BJ in the bar?

    The Gogos in LOS are far more designed to extract your cash and turn over customers ASAP. You will find prettier girls there but it is stare at girls on a stage, pick a number and off to do the deed. I was there with a good looking, young, Asian American guy and the girls refused any of his requests that would add to the time involved.

    Depends on your preferences but the PI girls may not be as plentiful nor as good looking but they will party hard and show you a good time inside and out of the bar. And no need for Google Translate. If you're not a sucker, they will respect a reasonable LD turnover rate and often LDs drunk at the bar will be taken off the 10 drink bar fine anyway.

    Enjoy. G.

  9. #6351

    Bottoms

    Bottoms is the wildest bar that I know of anywhere. I will amend THAT LAST STATEMENT: Bottoms is the wildest bar I know of anywhere with sexy doable girls that I want to shag. The Bottoms Girl's tops come off as soon as a customer offers to buy them a lady drink and touching and licking their nipples are encouraged. The girls expect it. After the intros and initial fondling, invite your girl or girls to one of the more private booths on either side of the central stage. Everything is available from the girls in the booths except sexual congress and even that might be possible although I never went that far. Ha Ha.

    I have written about my farewell fall 2015 party in Bottoms. I had my two favorite girls (they are still my favorites) and a girlfriend of theirs, all 3 girls naked and giving me BJ's in one of the booths. Before starting up I negotiated with the mamasan on prices. Our deal was for the barfine = 10 tequilas (lady drinks) at 350 per drink and a special price for the third girl of 1000 p for her drinks and barfine included. The only other expense was for my 10 tequilas plus I bought a couple of tequilas for the mamasan and she comped a couple of tequilas for me. After all that we were all quite sauced and the girls and I taxied back to the Fairmont where we really party partied. I will never forget that night! It was one of my top 10 best nights ever. EVER!

    So, yeah, I like Bottoms. They have a few great girls in there. Not all. Some Bottoms girls are a little porky. Ha ha. Kojax is currently the bar with the real lookers although my 2 Bottoms girls would easily be in the top 8 girls at Kojax if they worked there, but Kojax is not as hands on friendly as Bottoms.

    This is just my 2 pesos worth. I skipped MNL last year in favor of spending 3 weeks in Jakarta instead. I had a great time in Jakarta, but now I am looking forward to my return visit to MNL coming up right around the corner, I am in BKK now and having a blast. I Will post a quicky review in the BKK reports forum soon. Stay thirsty.

  10. #6350
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Koreans and Japanese are known to sit on their hands and concentrate on a girl's shoulder rather than tits, ass, and DFK girls. Will the girls there actually stop your wandering hands and mouth if they wander? What about other bars in Burgos? Thinking of going but if it's tame may need to rethink my plans. How many drinks do they girls devour per hour? I have a 3 or 4 drink per hour rule for girls in Thailand. Will Burgos and EDSA girls follow that rule?
    The only two bars where my roving hands did not meet with resistance were bottoms and Mirrors. 3-4 drinks per hour seems just about right though to be honest there was constant hard sell starting literally 5 minutes after the first drink.

    It's not like the Gogo's in Bangkok or Pattaya so set your expectations right. However there is something about the philipinas that makes them seem much warmer than their counterparts in other Asian countries, including Thailand. Plus there is the advantage of language. I met this girl in bottoms yesterday who was actually fun to talk to. She had a sense of humour and was not only getting my jokes but happily having a real fun conversation.

    In my opinion the best girls and value is to be found in Indonesia, if you take away the language issue. YMMV.

    Short answer, I think it's definitely worth experiencing. I can tell you that many times I am in a Gogo in Thailand and missing Philippines. I too enjoyed the Gogo scene more than most.

  11. #6349
    Quote Originally Posted by WhatDHell  [View Original Post]
    girls have that typical look that is favoured by Koreans / Japanese. Lady drinks are lower that other places at 300 pesos but they don't really get you nothing. The girls expect to give you 'company' by sitting next to you as they devour watered down shots. Complete waste of time in my opinion.
    Koreans and Japanese are known to sit on their hands and concentrate on a girl's shoulder rather than tits, ass, and DFK girls. Will the girls there actually stop your wandering hands and mouth if they wander? What about other bars in Burgos? Is there limited hands on action in the bars?

    Thinking of going but if it's tame may need to rethink my plans. How many drinks do they girls devour per hour? I have a 3 or 4 drink per hour rule for gogo girls in Thailand. Will Burgos and EDSA girls follow that rule?

  12. #6348
    Quote Originally Posted by WhatDHell  [View Original Post]
    I found EDSA a little boring. Wasn't much happening. Maybe I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Further updates on Burgos:

    Xoxo bar, the one next to Kojax (which is currently closed) - pure Japanese / Korean bar. The girls have that typical look that is favoured by Koreans / Japanese. Lady drinks are lower that other places at 300 pesos but they don't really get you nothing. The girls expect to give you 'company' by sitting next to you as they devour watered down shots. Complete waste of time in my opinion.

    Apparently the bar fine is 3. 5 k with an additional 3 k for the girl. They'll have to line their pussies with gold to get my sorry Indian ass to part with that kind of money for a shag.

    Practically all bars I peeped into with the exception of bottoms, plan be, xoxo and mirrors were dead. Bored looking girls and no mongers.

    Mirrors remains my current favourite due to the fun atmosphere even though the girls are not really very good looking.

    If I wasn't such a twisted perve, I swear I would just stick to freelancers in PH, off the streets or off the net.
    I'd agree the bar is pretty low but but EDSA and Burgos are about as good as it gets Gogo wise in Manila. They are very much what you make of them: if you want a fun night out you need to arrive with the right attitude and make your own fun. It won't be handed to you. For beers and a boys night out AC is only a couple of hours away and a better option.

    After finding XOXO closed, I was informed that it, Kojax and PlanB are part of the same consortium. Apparently the girls rotate between venues and when Kojax is closed XOXO is open and vise versa.

    Yes, Burgos is aimed at tourists and those out to impress guests so its priced accordingly. Good girls can be found though and prices are much cheaper if you meet them when they are off shift. Now most of the volume and quality girls have indeed moved online.

  13. #6347
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    You could try EDSA.

    Expect less full nudity and shows than Patts and less materialism than Nana. Looks wise you will find more buxom / curvaceous girls but less long and lean. Surgery is pretty much unknown in PI girls.

    Enjoy. G.
    I found EDSA a little boring. Wasn't much happening. Maybe I was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Further updates on Burgos:

    Xoxo bar, the one next to Kojax (which is currently closed) - pure Japanese / Korean bar. The girls have that typical look that is favoured by Koreans / Japanese. Lady drinks are lower that other places at 300 pesos but they don't really get you nothing. The girls expect to give you 'company' by sitting next to you as they devour watered down shots. Complete waste of time in my opinion.

    Apparently the bar fine is 3. 5 k with an additional 3 k for the girl. They'll have to line their pussies with gold to get my sorry Indian ass to part with that kind of money for a shag.

    Practically all bars I peeped into with the exception of bottoms, plan be, xoxo and mirrors were dead. Bored looking girls and no mongers.

    Mirrors remains my current favourite due to the fun atmosphere even though the girls are not really very good looking.

    If I wasn't such a twisted perve, I swear I would just stick to freelancers in PH, off the streets or off the net.

  14. #6346
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Thanks so much for the bar reviews WhatDHell. I will be sure to check out the Burgos area when I am in town.

    Any other bar areas similar to this in Makati or around Manila? My buddy and I prefer gogo bars / strip club atmosphere.
    You could try EDSA.

    Expect less full nudity and shows than Patts and less materialism than Nana. Looks wise you will find more buxom / curvaceous girls but less long and lean. Surgery is pretty much unknown in PI girls.

    Enjoy. G.

  15. #6345
    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    If you RTFF, RK has explained in great detail why the upper class people would never go near a foreigner. Just accept that as foreigners, we will only get to socialise with the lower end of society.
    I don't have a problem with that. As the saying goes, no matter how pretty the girl, somewhere there is a guy who got tired of putting up with her bullshit. Many "models" claim that status because they paid a guy / agency to take pics for a portfolio.

    One can find supposed "models" on SeekingArrangement. Just be prepared to pay more and put up with their princess attitude. But if sleeping with a "model" makes one feel better about one's self, the price may be worth it.

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