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  1. #20336
    Quote Originally Posted by Apprenticed  [View Original Post]
    Hi brother. Could you recommend me some locations that are not so expensive in Manila?

    Going to Philippines soon, I'm concerned about the prices in Manila and wondering if I should to Angeles City or Cebu instead.

    I hear the in Manila if the bar fine is 5000 I'll still have to pay another 5000 for the girl as their price is not included in the barfine.

    10000 for taking a lady to the hotel seems a bit steep.
    10 k is really the all in price for a barfine on Burgos. However it's one of the most expensive choices in town and you are paying for convenience. If you walk out the door there are street walkers available for 20% of that. Online girls are available from free to 4 k. The same for striking up a natural conversation with girls in a food hall.

    If ranking locations just by price it is Manila, AC, Cebu, provinces. If ranking methods it's KTVs, barfines, online, friends and referrals then natural meetups with civilians.

    Enjoy. G.

  2. #20335
    Quote Originally Posted by MohdirFan82  [View Original Post]
    Burgos is most touristy and expensive part of town. Next time do little homework before come and have few connections.
    Hi brother. Could you recommend me some locations that are not so expensive in Manila?

    Going to Philippines soon, I'm concerned about the prices in Manila and wondering if I should to Angeles City or Cebu instead.

    I hear the in Manila if the bar fine is 5000 I'll still have to pay another 5000 for the girl as their price is not included in the barfine.

    10000 for taking a lady to the hotel seems a bit steep.

  3. #20334
    Quote Originally Posted by FictionalSpace  [View Original Post]
    Long overdue documentation of a visit to Cebu and Manila a couple of months ago.

    Spent two days, three nights in Cebu. First time there and I found it to be much more enjoyable than Manila at a more affordable cost. Tinder and PL were both very productive and I met 4 very excellent contacts in that time. One ditched her mom at the mall to drop by my hotel room for a quickie before quickly heading back.

    I was also back in Manila for the first time in a few years. I wish Marriott still had a Makati property. Met plenty of girls via dating apps, but staying in Malate was more hassle than in Makati IMO. Prices seem to have gone up a bit since my last visit, as well, but that's the story in so many places these days it seems.
    Hi brother, did you met these girls in the dating site for transactional sex or just for normal date?

    How much did they charge?

    I'll have to decide whether to go to Manila, Cebu or Angeles City and not sure which one better for mongering.

  4. #20333
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    10-20 years ago China had good fun at good value. Especially Shanghai (red rope Sauna / Massage), lots of online action (Craigslist, roadside barber shops, KTVs, Freelance bars etc. Zhuhai near Macau was well known as well as Donguan and other hot spots. But the CCCP decided that it was a bad image and now everything is pushed underground and not accessible to the average foreigner. There are still higher end KTVs etc but good luck even finding where they are let alone getting in. You may find a few desperate aunties near your hotel at night but really no reason to go there to fuck.
    Thanks Expat. Great info. As we do business with the 'adult industry' in China, I'm probably better off asking my suppliers subtlety if they can line me up prior with a bit of 'fluff' when I arrive there. Nearly all the 'workers' here in Australia now are either from China or Taiwan, so I thought it might be a relatively easy option there. As G mentioned, I can imagine it being a 'mechanical' and stricter experience in mainland China. And one doesn't want to fuck up and get on the wrong side of officialdom and a dodgy legal system. If I have to forgo a few nights of 'sweet and sour' on a two day business side trip from Manila, then it doesn't really matter _ Phil.

  5. #20332
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilJoy  [View Original Post]
    Hi G,

    Good info. We actually buy products from China and I'm interested to know if it's a good source of action compared to the PH. I've put off a few business trips there as the visa process is a pain and prefer to work with our suppliers online. I have to spend a day to travel and submit my paperwork to their embassy and then spend a day to pick up my passport and visa if it's approved for a two night trip.

    We buy vibrators from Shenzhen.

    The great thing is, if I'm in The PH, it's a really close fight to Hong Kong and Mainland China. Although the Chinese are more efficient doing business, The Philippines is much easier and you know you're going to get some action 'after work' Cheers Phil.
    10-20 years ago China had good fun at good value. Especially Shanghai (red rope Sauna / Massage), lots of online action (Craigslist, roadside barber shops, KTVs, Freelance bars etc. Zhuhai near Macau was well known as well as Donguan and other hot spots. But the CCCP decided that it was a bad image and now everything is pushed underground and not accessible to the average foreigner. There are still higher end KTVs etc but good luck even finding where they are let alone getting in. You may find a few desperate aunties near your hotel at night but really no reason to go there to fuck.

  6. #20331
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    To answer your question, PH is much better purely as a fun hub.
    Enjoy. G.
    Thanks G. I'll be in the PH for a business trip and was thinking of going to to Shenzhen as a side trip as it's a short flight to Hong Kong and then a train trip into mainland China. I've done a bit of research and it seems the scene there is a lot different _ Phil.

  7. #20330

    Overdue Report

    Long overdue documentation of a visit to Cebu and Manila a couple of months ago.

    Spent two days, three nights in Cebu. First time there and I found it to be much more enjoyable than Manila at a more affordable cost. Tinder and PL were both very productive and I met 4 very excellent contacts in that time. One ditched her mom at the mall to drop by my hotel room for a quickie before quickly heading back.

    I was also back in Manila for the first time in a few years. I wish Marriott still had a Makati property. Met plenty of girls via dating apps, but staying in Malate was more hassle than in Makati IMO. Prices seem to have gone up a bit since my last visit, as well, but that's the story in so many places these days it seems.

  8. #20329
    Quote Originally Posted by PhilJoy  [View Original Post]
    Hi G,

    Good info. We actually buy products from China and I'm interested to know if it's a good source of action compared to the PH..
    It's was totally different. Pussy everywhere, technically very skilled providers but very mechanical ie absolutely no GFE. I paid a pittance but that was a long time ago. I've heard there have been significant price rises and some areas have even become stricter.

    To answer your question, PH is much better purely as a fun hub.

    Enjoy. G.

  9. #20328
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    As a comparison:

    China: girls paid per hour and per drink. I didn't sample but expect extras were available in the KTV room. I paid extra for a girl to follow me home to the hotel for uninspiring CFS.

    China2: KTV with attached spa. Received great legit body massage then moved to a private room my introduction to Fire and Ice BBBJ. Girls were not stunners but definitely formally trained in how to please..
    Hi G,

    Good info. We actually buy products from China and I'm interested to know if it's a good source of action compared to the PH. I've put off a few business trips there as the visa process is a pain and prefer to work with our suppliers online. I have to spend a day to travel and submit my paperwork to their embassy and then spend a day to pick up my passport and visa if it's approved for a two night trip.

    We buy vibrators from Shenzhen.

    The great thing is, if I'm in The PH, it's a really close fight to Hong Kong and Mainland China. Although the Chinese are more efficient doing business, The Philippines is much easier and you know you're going to get some action 'after work' Cheers Phil.

  10. #20327
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    I agree with the changing $100 at the airport. If you draw for an ATM you will only get 1,000 p notes.

    The USD exchange rate is not exact and you will get some some smaller notes.

    As anyone who has been in a cash only economies, change or small bills is always an issue.

    Always pay with the largest note that the seller will accept, that generates sufficient change. I like to have 2,000 to 3,000 peso in small notes.
    The T3 money exchange rates are pretty decent. No problem to exchange $500 there.

    At some point I get a bundle of P100 x 100 = P10,000 and never have a problem paying for anything. My advice is to load up on P100 when you.

  11. #20326
    Quote Originally Posted by Nite_Runner  [View Original Post]
    Fellas,

    ......
    ATM Machines.

    If your card doesn't work with one bank ATM, try another. For whatever reason, my Chas Schwab ATM card didn't work at BDO but it worked flawlessly everywhere else, no idea as to why. There are several ATMs in the MNL Arrivals Terminal, strongly suggest getting $100 USD converted as it makes life super simple if you arrive late at night.

    .....

    N_R.
    I agree with the changing $100 at the airport. If you draw for an ATM you will only get 1,000 p notes.

    The USD exchange rate is not exact and you will get some some smaller notes.

    As anyone who has been in a cash only economies, change or small bills is always an issue.

    Always pay with the largest note that the seller will accept, that generates sufficient change. I like to have 2,000 to 3,000 peso in small notes.

  12. #20325
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]

    Other gents?
    I have very limited experience in KTVs, in the Philippines and elsewhere. However, I have both gotten laid and been rejected in them.

    MNL: super cute girls, Quoted $$ per 30 minutes and LD. No onsite facilities nor bar-out facilities. I didn't stay.

    DVO: cute girls, $$$ per 30 minutes and LDs. I received onsite BBBJ and FS. Girl also offered her WA no for after hours hook up.

    As a comparison:

    China: girls paid per hour and per drink. I didn't sample but expect extras were available in the KTV room. I paid extra for a girl to follow me home to the hotel for uninspiring CFS.

    China2: KTV with attached spa. Received great legit body massage then moved to a private room my introduction to Fire and Ice BBBJ. Girls were not stunners but definitely formally trained in how to please.

    Enjoy. G.

  13. #20324
    Quote Originally Posted by MamaGuevos  [View Original Post]
    I have never been to a KTV in the Philippines (or anywhere else). I have been to Manila / Makati maybe 6 or 7 times and always pulled a "wife" (who worked during the day) for my stay from pinalove and then would monger during the day from Burgos or one of the malls. This routine certainly scratched my itch. But the last time, the "wife" fell in love with me (or fell in love with my wallet) and it was problematic when I left, so I was determined that the next time I visited, I would only do ST with the pinalove girls during the day and do KTVs at night. BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT KTVs WERE FULL SERVICE PLACES, LIKE FKKs IN Germany.
    Whoa Nellie! Never been to the FKK's, but there would be no comparison. KTV's in the Malate Korean district are as I previously described. Besides the fact that there is no barfine (that I'm aware of) for takeout, and I've never heard of anyone bragging of hammering one of those girls in a privado room, consider that the girls are used to making thousands nightly in tips from drunken older K / J's for nothing other than looking cute and a few hours of chat in the bar. Why on earth would she want to go home with you and become a 2-pop cum-bucket overnight for a few thousand pesos?

    For fun, there is an open-door restaurant on Adriatico (between Remedios and Nakpil Sts), across the street from Upstage Gold bar. Its open 24 hours. Shift change is 6 am. Have had breakfast there dozens of times (it was a go-to place when staying at Malate Bayview Mansion). At 6 am you will see the girls coming out of the KTV's at the end of their shift. They all look the same: Cute, usually short, hair ponytailed thru the back of a baseball hat, wearing shorts with cropped sweatshirts. They pile into lines of waiting taxis (lined up almost all the way back to Robinson's) to go home. But several will walk across the street to vest. They will sit down with 6-8 of her friends already waiting for her (already drinking, running up a bill), or the friends will show up shortly. Buckets of beer, breakfast foods, bottles of booze are wasted across the table. Thousands of pesos. The bill is quickly dispatched by the girl. Her earnings from the night allow her to spend half of her pay on a pinoy-style breakfast with friends. You don't see that from SW or gogo bar girls.

    Quote Originally Posted by MamaGuevos  [View Original Post]
    Are there any KTVs where full service is offered?
    I think yes, but not like the ones in K-town. You can easily find YT vids of the Ktown KTV's. Other board members have mentioned dive-bar, low-end KTVs with girls available for privado action, near the old EDSA plaza. Not sure if the bars still exist, or prices.

    Quote Originally Posted by MamaGuevos  [View Original Post]
    Have I been misreading all the descriptions of KTVs for the last 15 years? I am not interested in hanging out with beautiful girls unless the night ends in sex.
    Not sure what descriptions you have been reading. Here on ISG? YT? Various posters here have posted YT links to these places, but I don't recall any good FR's describing what you have in mind. There is also a similar place on Burgos called Junko Premiere; have never seen any girl walking out with a customer (same format: p500 for drink all you can for 90 minutes, pretty girls).

    Other gents?

  14. #20323

    KTVs: Call me naive but

    I have never been to a KTV in the Philippines (or anywhere else). I have been to Manila / Makati maybe 6 or 7 times and always pulled a "wife" (who worked during the day) for my stay from pinalove and then would monger during the day from Burgos or one of the malls. This routine certainly scratched my itch. But the last time, the "wife" fell in love with me (or fell in love with my wallet) and it was problematic when I left, so I was determined that the next time I visited, I would only do ST with the pinalove girls during the day and do KTVs at night. BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT KTVs WERE FULL SERVICE PLACES, LIKE FKKs IN Germany.

    I have a little experience with Karaoke places in Korea and China, but I was set up by local work colleagues with extremely pretty girls, and I never attempted to get one of the girls to have sex as my work colleagues were with me. I have always been amazed at how much they liked to get really, really stupidly drunk, rather than focus on fucking the girls (and the next morning behaved as if nothing had happened).

    I honestly do not have any plans to visit the Philippines until 2026, as I will go to BKK on my annual trip to Asia in January 2025 with Pattaya as a side trip (usually I go to Manila as my side trip).

    Are there any KTVs where full service is offered? Have I been misreading all the descriptions of KTVs for the last 15 years? I am not interested in hanging out with beautiful girls unless the night ends in sex.

  15. #20322
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I suppose one will be well advised to change your old notes for new ones at a bank before flying out.
    My Man,

    Yes!! Basically, new, unmarked, no tears or significant creases and you should be fine. Also, having spent too many years traveling internationally, to never depart the US without at least two sources of (liquid) cash. Currency rules change do change on occasion and you never want to be reliant on one source if abroad.

    N_R.

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