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  1. #12866
    The mentioned Apple again and services were DFK, BBBJ, fip, DATY, CFS, bbjcim with COF.

  2. #12865
    Quote Originally Posted by EnterTheV  [View Original Post]
    Nice you are in Busan, are you going to go to Green street?
    My bad on my previous post I meant lonelynight.net, Enter The Vs link is not in Korea LOL.

    I'm in Philadelphia. When I visit Korea (usually 1-2 times a year) I'll be honest I only been to Busan a small handful of times and the RLD once. I think it's Texas street? The street that has the big entrance thing you enter. Here's a picture of the entrance I posted too and the other says ChinaTown literally in Korean or Cha Ee Na Ta Oon letter for letter. You see it says Massage that it what it says above the 7/11 on the pictures. Places that are called like this with just Massage are generic spots and no good. I forget if I said this but even Clubs and Room Salons and Ahn Mahs (AMPS) the best ones just have an English name like Pink. Snow. Ace. Etc. And the customers already know what it is in there no need to have a sign saying MASSAGE or flashing red lights that say ROOM blinking all night and under it 60,000 TIP! No thanks, those are the low grade spots. Green street is the RLD street? When I went to my RLD tour around Korea and visited literally all of them except in like Teagu. Busand RLD was awesome IMO at the time but this was over 14 years ago. The damn government did a huge crackdown in 2005 which ruined the fun for all. The hookers used to protest all the girls from like Miari wearing red hats and sunglasses and all girls from Yongsan RLD wearing blue and so forth. But unfortunately the government wasn't having it. I remember being in Miari a couple times around those times after the crackdown like 2006 they were still open a good 60% of Miari but whenever the cops would come by all the pimpjummas I call them would raise an alarm and curtains close immediately and usually a captain in the front followed by like 7 young regular officers just walking through. Stupid imo, those cops all visited RLDs before especially during their military time away when they get a home pass they definitely get it in before having to head back to no female land. If green st is where the RLD is, I'm guessing it's like every other RLD in Korea in 2024, pretty empty and with only some girls working and the hagglers in the side allyways with the older cheaper foreigner friendly women.

    You going back to Korea anytime soon?

    Sam Katz aka AMPimp.
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  3. #12864
    Quote Originally Posted by SamKatz  [View Original Post]
    Got a new phone typing Itaewon I meant. 32 European? What country? I mean they have signs that say 30 age max but they let some people slide like hot girls obviously and guys who look younger who looks like he spends money or would help the business. But Hongdae is full of kiddos these days. Literally girls born in 2005 19 years old. I would take my chances in Itaewon and although it won't be as packed on Halloween due to the tragedy a couple years ago but it's still the epicenter for foreigners and gays / lesbians / trans (Jongro also has a gay area so be careful if you go there) But 32 you should be fine but it's alot of competition and white american guys are sought after the most, and Canadians and Australians are second and third and so on. They don't particularily like Russian or muslim countries or if your country has a poorer image (yes it's messed up but Koreans are one of the most if not the most judgemental people there is) But I'll try to give you some pointers just PM me and also maybe I could help you out with girls I know. If I don't get a PM, I say itaewon since you only have a few days and are they on the weekend? Alone? Tall? So many little factors that make or break a situation. I would say check out both if you had more time but I would try the exact opposite meaning go where no foreigners are so you stand out more and are intriguing to the girls in other areas since foreigners and all the English teachers and foreign students always go to the 3 spots Hongdae, itaewon and Kangnam (But Kangnam clubs you want to go to the hotel clubs and booking clubs-just google booking club Korea and you'll see what I mean) Also definitely some advice is do NOT tell any girl you are clicking with that you are only staying a few days because that means she will most likely dismiss you right then and there because it's not worth it and the attractive girls don't do one night stands like crazy like people sometimes say. There's a word for it I forget the word but means like they hide true intentions, pride dignity, and why the girls act drunker than they really are even to just kiss the first time meeting and just so many little variables that can change the game..
    Nice you are in Busan, are you going to go to Green street?

  4. #12863

    3 Days?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gelupal  [View Original Post]
    What do you mean by clubs or bars in Arron? I can't find this place. I will be mongering in a few days in Korea and still looking where I can get lucky, but it looks super tought; o.

    I'm 32 european and I wonder if it is even worth going to hongdae.
    Got a new phone typing Itaewon I meant. 32 European? What country? I mean they have signs that say 30 age max but they let some people slide like hot girls obviously and guys who look younger who looks like he spends money or would help the business. But Hongdae is full of kiddos these days. Literally girls born in 2005 19 years old. I would take my chances in Itaewon and although it won't be as packed on Halloween due to the tragedy a couple years ago but it's still the epicenter for foreigners and gays / lesbians / trans (Jongro also has a gay area so be careful if you go there) But 32 you should be fine but it's alot of competition and white american guys are sought after the most, and Canadians and Australians are second and third and so on. They don't particularily like Russian or muslim countries or if your country has a poorer image (yes it's messed up but Koreans are one of the most if not the most judgemental people there is) But I'll try to give you some pointers just PM me and also maybe I could help you out with girls I know. If I don't get a PM, I say itaewon since you only have a few days and are they on the weekend? Alone? Tall? So many little factors that make or break a situation. I would say check out both if you had more time but I would try the exact opposite meaning go where no foreigners are so you stand out more and are intriguing to the girls in other areas since foreigners and all the English teachers and foreign students always go to the 3 spots Hongdae, itaewon and Kangnam (But Kangnam clubs you want to go to the hotel clubs and booking clubs-just google booking club Korea and you'll see what I mean) Also definitely some advice is do NOT tell any girl you are clicking with that you are only staying a few days because that means she will most likely dismiss you right then and there because it's not worth it and the attractive girls don't do one night stands like crazy like people sometimes say. There's a word for it I forget the word but means like they hide true intentions, pride dignity, and why the girls act drunker than they really are even to just kiss the first time meeting and just so many little variables that can change the game. Or just right place wrong timing. Like the group of girls on Friday could be very receptive towards your approach and inviting but Saturdays group if rejecting everyone. That's why luck is always involved. I wish you luck regardless, just remember you are in Korea for a few months but I got to business meeting in Busan tomorrow so can we meet tomorrow, you want to close the deal on girl #1 atempt as fast as possible. Any signs of doubt get out and try again and so forth. Happy Hunting! Oh yeah hunting bars exist too but you got friends in Korea? That is important as hunting alone will look weird and cringe to alot of girls. But make the best out of your time in Korea! Let me know how things went if comfortable sharing but it's going to be tough only a few days especially if its weekdays only. Don't forget you can go the MPs agencys officetel spots (those cards all over the ground) brothels the few that remain open. Can utilize the Link Enter The V provided.

    Enter The V, nice site! Boy if most of them pictures are real you sure got it 100 x better than here LOL.

    Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

  5. #12862
    Gelupal
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamKatz  [View Original Post]
    TBH I would not longer near itaewon because never heard anything good out of any spots really. You have a much much better chance of scoring a chick at a bar or club in Arron since girls travel long distances to meet white guys especially like all my life as a Korean American I've only scored 3 times in itaewon while all my foreigner friends got mad girls and ladies of all ages for all age mongers. The only race I've seen having trouble was the brown skinned guys like from Pakistan or Bangledash etc. Kgirls are damn picky with higher standards these days due to not getting married or have kids but that also means a lot more 30-50 lonely women who live alone who seek male attention and touch. Take full advantage of that. I always tell foreign friends of mine you have better chances by going to itaewon or going the opposite route which is no itaewon / hongdae / gangnam. You have no competition in places like Jamsil and Ilsan and Daejeon Inchon etc and away from the army bases. As for RLDs YDP I talked to a friend he said he will go by sometime at night and tell me how it's looking nowadays but trust me a lot of them are closed especially 588 and Miari.
    What do you mean by clubs or bars in Arron? I can't find this place. I will be mongering in a few days in Korea and still looking where I can get lucky, but it looks super tought; o.

    I'm 32 european and I wonder if it is even worth going to hongdae.

  6. #12861
    Quote Originally Posted by SamKatz  [View Original Post]
    TBH I would not longer near itaewon because never heard anything good out of any spots really. You have a much much better chance of scoring a chick at a bar or club in Arron since girls travel long distances to meet white guys especially like all my life as a Korean American I've only scored 3 times in itaewon while all my foreigner friends got mad girls and ladies of all ages for all age mongers. The only race I've seen having trouble was the brown skinned guys like from Pakistan or Bangledash etc. Kgirls are damn picky with higher standards these days due to not getting married or have kids but that also means a lot more 30-50 lonely women who live alone who seek male attention and touch. Take full advantage of that. I always tell foreign friends of mine you have better chances by going to itaewon or going the opposite route which is no itaewon / hongdae / gangnam. You have no competition in places like Jamsil and Ilsan and Daejeon Inchon etc and away from the army bases. As for RLDs YDP I talked to a friend he said he will go by sometime at night and tell me how it's looking nowadays but trust me a lot of them are closed especially 588 and Miari.

    Enter The V $300 for BBFS? Wow! The agency here well we only have 2 is $360 and $350 and no BBFS and in NYC it's $400 plus no BBFS. The only ones that do BBFS that I know of here are the Chinese at the wall in AMPS that are 220-240 then some ask for an extra $80-100 for BBFS. I heard the usasexguidehas a whole BB forum thread for LA crazy! I'm too scared to go barrback in the V just because I know the girls don't get checked like they say they do and a lot of mongers visit Kensington which is a famous fentanyl tranquilizer open air spot the biggest with lots of SWs that mongers see when low on money and some mix it up. No matter what they tell you I know they don't get checked like that I asked girls in the past and they would say they don't have health insurance and they will get checked once they get back to Korea or whatever excuse the ones that became cool and honest with me. That's awesome had no idea it was even cheaper than crappy Phillybut I guess it's due to the competition I imagine it's brutal if you know how Koreans do business they even snitch on each other if you are making too much money. Also super lucky to have Japanese girls, Ive never even seen met a Japanese person in my life here lol besides when I went to Temple and even all the sushi restaurants are Korean or Chinese. Time to take a trip to LA sometime lol
    https://kbeautygirls.com/

    Yeah you lucky one of your friends got you in, The process can be dreadful here is one of the agencies so you can get the idea https://kbeautygirls.com/.

  7. #12860
    Quote Originally Posted by Garthie1  [View Original Post]
    Good report. The last time I went to YDP was two years ago in December. I walked through bundled up, so they couldn't tell that I was a white guy, but when I got close up, they politely declined. The first place on the right would take me even though I was a foreigner. She was hot but I was wondering what else was available and as I walked through nobody else would have me. When I returned to the first place, she brushed me off, so that was that. Overall, white guys aren't having much luck there (then). The only remaining RLD that's completely friendly to foreigners is Dongducheon, probably because of the US Army and all the TCN factory workers.

    There are three places on the main hill- Evergreen and the one next to it, Betty's around the corner at the top. Bean is not working now, so none of the places at the top of the hill are even worth considering- all old and unattractive. The other places on the street offer more in looks and variety, but not much as there are only four places.

    As for money, start with FS at 100,000 KRW and negotiate no higher than 150,000 KRW. If one place doesn't take it, another will. In these desperate times, you might get some extras for a slightly higher charge, you'll have to see. The service is rushed and probably not that great, but it's a foreigner friendly place and that's hard to come by in Korea.
    TBH I would not longer near itaewon because never heard anything good out of any spots really. You have a much much better chance of scoring a chick at a bar or club in Arron since girls travel long distances to meet white guys especially like all my life as a Korean American I've only scored 3 times in itaewon while all my foreigner friends got mad girls and ladies of all ages for all age mongers. The only race I've seen having trouble was the brown skinned guys like from Pakistan or Bangledash etc. Kgirls are damn picky with higher standards these days due to not getting married or have kids but that also means a lot more 30-50 lonely women who live alone who seek male attention and touch. Take full advantage of that. I always tell foreign friends of mine you have better chances by going to itaewon or going the opposite route which is no itaewon / hongdae / gangnam. You have no competition in places like Jamsil and Ilsan and Daejeon Inchon etc and away from the army bases. As for RLDs YDP I talked to a friend he said he will go by sometime at night and tell me how it's looking nowadays but trust me a lot of them are closed especially 588 and Miari.

    Enter The V $300 for BBFS? Wow! The agency here well we only have 2 is $360 and $350 and no BBFS and in NYC it's $400 plus no BBFS. The only ones that do BBFS that I know of here are the Chinese at the wall in AMPS that are 220-240 then some ask for an extra $80-100 for BBFS. I heard the usasexguidehas a whole BB forum thread for LA crazy! I'm too scared to go barrback in the V just because I know the girls don't get checked like they say they do and a lot of mongers visit Kensington which is a famous fentanyl tranquilizer open air spot the biggest with lots of SWs that mongers see when low on money and some mix it up. No matter what they tell you I know they don't get checked like that I asked girls in the past and they would say they don't have health insurance and they will get checked once they get back to Korea or whatever excuse the ones that became cool and honest with me. That's awesome had no idea it was even cheaper than crappy Phillybut I guess it's due to the competition I imagine it's brutal if you know how Koreans do business they even snitch on each other if you are making too much money. Also super lucky to have Japanese girls, I’ve never even seen met a Japanese person in my life here lol besides when I went to Temple and even all the sushi restaurants are Korean or Chinese. Time to take a trip to LA sometime lol

  8. #12859
    Quote Originally Posted by SamKatz  [View Original Post]
    Last I heard about Busans RLD is they are taking it down but I see this was posted a year ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SSmO1evED0 seems pretty open. I've been to literally every single RLD even the ones kinda considered a RLD like Seongnam where you have those spots with a bunch of girls in stewardess outfits then the next house has student outfits and so on. I know Incheon Yellow house is dead. Busan near Texas street near the station I've only been there twice since it's so far but they had an awesome selection of hotties. I agree Koreas government and laws are sos tupid like the economy is shit and only getting worse and prostitution isn't going anywhere why not let it operate and just have it sort of closed only where lots of kids and people have to pass by like Miari is closed off and has it's own curtain and maze to adventure through but not in my wildest dreams I thought it would die down to only a few shops and very bad selection. Better off going to the massage parlors or some "talking"(groping bars I call them) bars have some decent young girls but if you go to the ones with foreigners for English speakers you will get a Malaysian chick or Russian, New Zealand etc. Same as Kiss rooms and Bikini bars you have to be slick abd just get their Kakao and meet her outside.

    Oh. You are from LA! So lucky! You guys have the best AMP agencies by far along with NYC. We get a few LA girls from time to time, if you go to LA AMPS that's literally the only spot besides some NYC AMPS that have Kgirls in their 20's. We had imo one of thr best girls ever due to her service at the time and tenacity here in Philly before named Hana but goes by Mysterious M or Megan in LA now as a mamasan. I think she also partakes in the fun as well. The room salons in LA are not as good I heard but hey atleast they got them. I just don't agree with he outrageous prices for a night out with a couple friends but you have a great selection of hotties at AMPS and agencies with Kgirls. The hottest Kgirls are in LA and youngest because in my over 20 years of mongering in Philly they are always over 30 except 3 girls ever here. Only Chinese, Russian, Latina I've heard of girls in their 20's consider yourself in the best area for Kgirls LOL. You don't hit up the agencies / AMPS whatever you want to call them? My God my friend took me to one and was able to skip the dreaded verification process of taking a selfie holding your drivers license.

    Sam Katz aka AMPimp.
    Yup we have the famous K agencys bookers, BBFS goes around 300 $ or more Even some Japanese talent has come.

  9. #12858
    Quote Originally Posted by EnterTheV  [View Original Post]
    If I'm not satisfied with YDP I will go to Paju RLD which looks pretty big. Have you been to Busans RLD called green street? I've heard promising reports but very little info comes on the other thread ph well. I love Koreas RLDs Hopefully the government would stop cracking down on them.
    Last I heard about Busans RLD is they are taking it down but I see this was posted a year ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SSmO1evED0 seems pretty open. I've been to literally every single RLD even the ones kinda considered a RLD like Seongnam where you have those spots with a bunch of girls in stewardess outfits then the next house has student outfits and so on. I know Incheon Yellow house is dead. Busan near Texas street near the station I've only been there twice since it's so far but they had an awesome selection of hotties. I agree Koreas government and laws are sos tupid like the economy is shit and only getting worse and prostitution isn't going anywhere why not let it operate and just have it sort of closed only where lots of kids and people have to pass by like Miari is closed off and has it's own curtain and maze to adventure through but not in my wildest dreams I thought it would die down to only a few shops and very bad selection. Better off going to the massage parlors or some "talking"(groping bars I call them) bars have some decent young girls but if you go to the ones with foreigners for English speakers you will get a Malaysian chick or Russian, New Zealand etc. Same as Kiss rooms and Bikini bars you have to be slick abd just get their Kakao and meet her outside.

    Oh. You are from LA! So lucky! You guys have the best AMP agencies by far along with NYC. We get a few LA girls from time to time, if you go to LA AMPS that's literally the only spot besides some NYC AMPS that have Kgirls in their 20's. We had imo one of thr best girls ever due to her service at the time and tenacity here in Philly before named Hana but goes by Mysterious M or Megan in LA now as a mamasan. I think she also partakes in the fun as well. The room salons in LA are not as good I heard but hey atleast they got them. I just don't agree with he outrageous prices for a night out with a couple friends but you have a great selection of hotties at AMPS and agencies with Kgirls. The hottest Kgirls are in LA and youngest because in my over 20 years of mongering in Philly they are always over 30 except 3 girls ever here. Only Chinese, Russian, Latina I've heard of girls in their 20's consider yourself in the best area for Kgirls LOL. You don't hit up the agencies / AMPS whatever you want to call them? My God my friend took me to one and was able to skip the dreaded verification process of taking a selfie holding your drivers license.

    Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

  10. #12857
    Quote Originally Posted by SamKatz  [View Original Post]
    Found a video of YDP RLD a guy posted 7 months ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgAHttyovV8. I can't say for sure obviously but really think they are pretty dead even at night.

    YDL RLD at night- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB25DYnuQVkmostly closed wow! I'll never forget the days when it was packed.

    This is what 588 looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PF-G8fK-iM but besides the few stranglers it's going to be totally gone in time to build houses, stores whatever.

    So YDP RLD in 2024 is denying white foreigners? That is crazy! Me and my half white friends (they all look white for the most part) would have no trouble back around 2015-19. The RLD around Dongduchun is that Suwon? https://youtu.be/hdJ5I1B6cHw?si=DF9SwuyaE-b96Oqk&t=486 or is it another RLD? I never heard of one at Dongduchun during my tour of going to literally all of them as an experience. The RLDs are all pretty dead and going under redevelopment which sucks. I'm surprised you even had to negotiate in itaewon, among all the foreigners I know, nobody goes to those spots around itaewon. I'm surprised with the super increase in foreigners they don't accept white Americans which are most sought after by girls if they are dating non Koreans. It's the Nigerians and especially the Indian / Pakistanis and middle east brown mongers that have it really tough in Korea. I tried to help a Paki and his friend before and nobody would accept them. Sad but reality. Just surprised it happened to you too since white Americans are #1, then probably Canadians, Australians, etc. Hope things get better in Korea for all mongers!.
    If I'm not satisfied with YDP I will go to Paju RLD which looks pretty big. Have you been to Busans RLD called green street? I've heard promising reports but very little info comes on the other thread ph well. I love Koreas RLDs Hopefully the government would stop cracking down on them.

  11. #12856
    Quote Originally Posted by SamKatz  [View Original Post]
    The Kiss Bangs are very much a grey area meaning the prices are different for foreigners at times and the negotiation with every girl is different like for example I went with my friend who is half Korean half white but he looks white. The ones in Jongro are better than Hongdae. Hongdae is not for mongering, it's for clubs / bars and gen z kids and younger foreign English teachers. Even if you are under 30, try going to NB2 on a Friday night, it's way too packed and not worth it because there's a whole strategy behind the hunting game. White Americans are still most popular among foreigners, especially the English teachers since soldiers end up leaving eventually most of the time. You probably heard of lonelynight dot org, theres a few AMPS that are good but Kiss rooms in Hongdae alot have closed and the few left I never hear anything good about them. Jongro, Shilimdong, Kangnam, but if you have even 1 Korean native friend they can find everything online. Everything is on your phone. When kiss rooms first came out it was 60,000 w / hour just kissing talking and can grab some boobs and a camera in the room. Now most do HJ, BJ, and FS. They will try to get you for more money for being a foreigner but I suggest having a wad of cash ready in Korean money (to make it look more since the exchange rate is bad) and nothing over 200,000 extra. This is the top of the line young college girls. I've actually seen college IDs before and proven wrong, you won't find young hotties like this elsewhere besides the grade A room salons which is a waste of money and need to spend thousands and can even sponsor Kpop girl trainees or a couple on the come up but that's difficult and need connections. It's hard to explain directions for kiss rooms but definitely not in Hongdae. You'll see the difference going elsewhere. If the 50 minute initial price is only 60-70,000 w it's not one of the better ones. 90,000+ you know you are at a better one. The one on the site 10 minute I've been there before very nice interior and lady manager was hot too, managed to get BJ for 200,000 total. Tried to get her Kakao on the low but she said she will get in big trouble if caught so let it go..
    I'm in Koreatown LA and we have those Room salons just wish we had the Glass houses with girls LOL.

  12. #12855
    Quote Originally Posted by RawhHigh  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the tips! I am flying in at the end of month and will try that along anma, hyugetel!!

    Typically, what is the damage at the bar?
    50 k handjob or I walk. And I often do walk. If the girl is alone you can pay less. I used to trade an hour teaching for a handjob 10 years ago. Miss those days. One gal liked me and would study then blow me for free.

    BJ probably closer to 80 k with FS possible from 100 k.

  13. #12854

    Interesting.

    Found a video of YDP RLD a guy posted 7 months ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgAHttyovV8. I can't say for sure obviously but really think they are pretty dead even at night.

    YDL RLD at night- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB25DYnuQVkmostly closed wow! I'll never forget the days when it was packed.

    This is what 588 looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PF-G8fK-iM but besides the few stranglers it's going to be totally gone in time to build houses, stores whatever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garthie1  [View Original Post]
    Good report. The last time I went to YDP was two years ago in December. I walked through bundled up, so they couldn't tell that I was a white guy, but when I got close up, they politely declined. The first place on the right would take me even though I was a foreigner. She was hot but I was wondering what else was available and as I walked through nobody else would have me. When I returned to the first place, she brushed me off, so that was that. Overall, white guys aren't having much luck there (then). The only remaining RLD that's completely friendly to foreigners is Dongducheon, probably because of the US Army and all the TCN factory workers.

    There are three places on the main hill- Evergreen and the one next to it, Betty's around the corner at the top. Bean is not working now, so none of the places at the top of the hill are even worth considering- all old and unattractive. The other places on the street offer more in looks and variety, but not much as there are only four places.

    As for money, start with FS at 100,000 KRW and negotiate no higher than 150,000 KRW. If one place doesn't take it, another will. In these desperate times, you might get some extras for a slightly higher charge, you'll have to see. The service is rushed and probably not that great, but it's a foreigner friendly place and that's hard to come by in Korea.
    So YDP RLD in 2024 is denying white foreigners? That is crazy! Me and my half white friends (they all look white for the most part) would have no trouble back around 2015-19. The RLD around Dongduchun is that Suwon? https://youtu.be/hdJ5I1B6cHw?si=DF9SwuyaE-b96Oqk&t=486 or is it another RLD? I never heard of one at Dongduchun during my tour of going to literally all of them as an experience. The RLDs are all pretty dead and going under redevelopment which sucks. I'm surprised you even had to negotiate in itaewon, among all the foreigners I know, nobody goes to those spots around itaewon. I'm surprised with the super increase in foreigners they don't accept white Americans which are most sought after by girls if they are dating non Koreans. It's the Nigerians and especially the Indian / Pakistanis and middle east brown mongers that have it really tough in Korea. I tried to help a Paki and his friend before and nobody would accept them. Sad but reality. Just surprised it happened to you too since white Americans are #1, then probably Canadians, Australians, etc. Hope things get better in Korea for all mongers! All those RLD girls had to have gone elsewhere to work obviously, I say don't ever use those cards on the ground officetel girls because you can't see them before you screw them and all sports massage or double pole barber pole spots are low class older women. Also an important thing is the best AMPS and clubs and room salons don't say massage or room salon on them. Usually just an English word like "Cool" "Snow" "Tenpro" "King" etc. Can't wait to go back! I'll document next time and take pictures and write down names and everything.

    Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

  14. #12853
    Quote Originally Posted by EnterTheV  [View Original Post]
    Yes any Kiss bang you recommend? Heard you can also have FS at times? Is 588 completely gone or are there still some windows? Because I know Miari is still operating a bit and will check it out. I hope YDP stays open for us Mongers!
    The Kiss Bangs are very much a grey area meaning the prices are different for foreigners at times and the negotiation with every girl is different like for example I went with my friend who is half Korean half white but he looks white. The ones in Jongro are better than Hongdae. Hongdae is not for mongering, it's for clubs / bars and gen z kids and younger foreign English teachers. Even if you are under 30, try going to NB2 on a Friday night, it's way too packed and not worth it because there's a whole strategy behind the hunting game. White Americans are still most popular among foreigners, especially the English teachers since soldiers end up leaving eventually most of the time. You probably heard of lonelynight dot org, theres a few AMPS that are good but Kiss rooms in Hongdae alot have closed and the few left I never hear anything good about them. Jongro, Shilimdong, Kangnam, but if you have even 1 Korean native friend they can find everything online. Everything is on your phone. When kiss rooms first came out it was 60,000 w / hour just kissing talking and can grab some boobs and a camera in the room. Now most do HJ, BJ, and FS. They will try to get you for more money for being a foreigner but I suggest having a wad of cash ready in Korean money (to make it look more since the exchange rate is bad) and nothing over 200,000 extra. This is the top of the line young college girls. I've actually seen college IDs before and proven wrong, you won't find young hotties like this elsewhere besides the grade A room salons which is a waste of money and need to spend thousands and can even sponsor Kpop girl trainees or a couple on the come up but that's difficult and need connections. It's hard to explain directions for kiss rooms but definitely not in Hongdae. You'll see the difference going elsewhere. If the 50 minute initial price is only 60-70,000 w it's not one of the better ones. 90,000+ you know you are at a better one. The one on the site 10 minute I've been there before very nice interior and lady manager was hot too, managed to get BJ for 200,000 total. Tried to get her Kakao on the low but she said she will get in big trouble if caught so let it go.

    588 is completely gone for a while now. 588 died out after the 2005 crackdown. Before then it was Heaven! So many hot girls for only 60,000 w for 20 minutes, some charged 70 and just like every RLD, the hottest girls have the best spots like near the entrance and the old Shaq on the Celtics past their prime women are in the side allyways. Miari even 10+ years ago was dead. They only have a few houses open and the curtains are closed. The pimpjumma (pimp ajumma) just shows you a sneak opening the curtain for you with only 3 girls working and they are not attractive. Miari used to be so great too. Last I heard Chon Ho Dong still has a few open and YDP still has some open. Just ignore the older women near the main road and on the way to the YDP RLD. It's sad to see women their age still doing this and begging though.

    Rocko20, I don't know the geography but you might be talking about Pyuntaek or Yongjogol or Suwon RLD. Even as a Korean American myself I'll admit Koreas mongering scene can be racist as hell. That's why they have all the juicy bars and the lower class spots near all the Army bases. All my half Korean friends their moms met US soldiers back in the day so live near Kunsan, Uiejungbu, Donggochun, Songtan, Osan, etc and all got those bars and ghetto clubs specifically for coldiers but with older and lower class Korean ladies and Russians, Latinas, and southeast Asian country ladies. Same as Itaewon, that hooker hill is so horrible compared to the real mongering scene but I tried taking my foreign friends to some spots and some were welcoming but some charged him more or said we can't accept your friend. My taxi driver friend told me the high class AMPS don't accept foreigners because the super rich Korean old men will look down on the establishment if they see them accepting foreigners (especially black men). IMO, it's messed up since like you said Thailand, Colombia all other countries with a mongering scene is very welcoming of all men. Since 2016 though Korea has changed alot, they gay scene is gaining popularity, there's AMPS where you can have your session being viewed by others. Not my cup of tea. Also have to watch out in Jongro because alot of gay places and massage spots / saunas (they exist more than you think). My advice is always flash the cash, the prostitution scene in Korea is so competitive they don't get many customers. Especially YDP RLD because even when I used to go there a long time ago it was always pretty empty and girls begging oppa oppa for business.

    Overall, any Kiss room is Jongro or Kangnam area are going to be great but just don't get upcharged too much and AMPS they have upped their game to have different themes, different styles, services for all preferences. IMO, that place 1% on the website is great a hidden gem. You walk down the stairs and they have a glass wall and pick your girl who is dressed normally. This is a major turn on considering it feels like you met a girl naturally on the street instead of of a skimpy pink dress with high heels and caked in makeup with plastic surgeries. They have many regular looking girls you would see walking on the street and just pick and they send you upstairs and eventually she walks in and can opt for the blind people to give you a massage, eat a meal, sleep, anything you want. Plus after you are done they send you to the top floor where you get another massage done well. But all in all, RLDs are pretty dead and even YDPs quality has gone down so much even though there are still some nice ones, NOTHING compared to what it used to be. Also YDP was considered to be one of the bottom level RLDs out of the long list. I used to have a bunch of pictures (I posted a few on here already over 15 years ago but I had a good stash but hotmail decided to close their accounts one day and should work under outlook but doesn't. Oh well.

    I'll try to find the exact names but going with a native Korean will make your chances go up like no other plus no games and shadiness and so forth. That's how I hearned about everything from a native taxi friend LOL. Back in 2002 I told him I've never been out in Korea before and only came here to meet relatives before this summer take me somewhere nice and I'll hook you up and all fun from there! And most importantly, learning everything. Sorry for the longass post.

    Sam Katz aka AMPimp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamKatz  [View Original Post]
    The glass houses all mainly kinda died out but some still have a little selection. YDP is one of the luckier RLDs that didn't disappear or is dead as hell like 588 and Miari. All the glass house girls are similar, 15 minutes and you can bargain with them about the price because some charge more for foreigners, some don't take foreigners, etc. I'm Korean and they try charging me more at times. Anything over 80,000-90 is a red flag.
    I lived in Osan Korea for a year back in 2016 and my experience mongering there was not a good one. Granted, I'm not Korean, so many of the WGs in the RLDs near that one train station (can't remember the name) flat out rejected me which was shocking for me who had experienced the welcome a foreigner gets in thailand. I still managed to enjoy a few (mostly older ones who didn't reject me), but they didn't know a lick of english and I didn't know a lick of a korean which made the situation confusing. I also tried Itaewon, which was far more open to foreigners but their prices were high and there wasn't a lot of women available.

    Ironically, I had far more fun, success, and joy just dating and being with non-WG Korean women. I believe Korean women are the best looking Asians in the world, but I do wish their mongering scene was better.

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