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  1. #1146
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyReynolds  [View Original Post]
    Don't ask me where this place was cause if it wasn't for my coworker then I can guarantee you I would not have found it. These places are well hidden. I don't understand how the police crack down on these places but have obvious massage parlors everywhere.
    I'd be game to visit with you and even pay for you two as a "nice to meet you gesture".

    I haven't been able to find a local with whom to go so far.

  2. #1145
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyReynolds  [View Original Post]
    Running late on my reports, again. Got talking to a Korean coworker about the delights of this country. Then showed him the OP site, which I can't seem to be able to look at now for some reason (guessing the name changed again, tried a few different numbers at the end of it but none worked). Told him I wanted to try a lip cafe, so he found one and made us both an appointment.

    We both got two girls each for 150 k. 15 minutes each girl. Now these places have Korean college age girls, you can't kiss them, no FS, or doing anything to the girl. Least that's how it was for us. But of course, repeat enough with the right girl or even spit that Korean first time with a girl and YMMV. Coworker told me all these places have gone underground and are secretive. You need to use the site as they're not openly advertised how they used to be. BBBJs with CIM only at lip cafes.

    Get there, typical shower, then get in bed naked. The girls come lay down naked in bed with you. They'll have a cup full of mouth wash, thought this was for the guy cause we were going to make out a bit. I used the mouthwash foolishly, as there was no kissing allowed and I had to keep my mask on the whole time. I discovered what the mouthwash was for later. Pleasantly surprised.

    First girl was alright, short hair, could tell she wasn't really interested. BBBJ was ok, I'm foreigner size so she got tired and started using her hand. We didn't vibe well so I couldn't even finish. Apparently afterwards you are supposed to tell her how long of a break you want before the next girl comes in, I didn't know or understand this. Went and took another shower so I could be clean for the next girl and was hoping she'd help me finish.

    Went back to the room and laid down again, in comes the next girl. Looked prettier than the last girl, long hair, was very feminine and talked a bit with me. We caressed a bit and even complimented each other on our tattoos. Vibed a lot better with this girl and she even called me oppa LOL, already liking her. Don't know if I was just extra horny cause I didn't pop with the last girl, cause this girl was great. BBBJ was good and she know how to use her hands. I popped after about 10 minutes with her, CIM. She cleaned me up, spit my stuff out, then put the whole cup of mouthwash in her mouth.

    Afterwords she proceeded to continue the BBBJ service with the mouthwash in her mouth. First I was startled, then scared, and finally I just let it happen LOL, never had any girl do this for me before. Gotten BJs with mint gum in a girl's mouth, but never this. Wanted more since I only popped once but had work the next day, so me and my coworker left at around the same time.

    Don't ask me where this place was cause if it wasn't for my coworker then I can guarantee you I would not have found it. These places are well hidden. I don't understand how the police crack down on these places but have obvious massage parlors everywhere.
    Think the mouthwash is likely the girls choice anyway to sterilize the shafts. God knows where some guys have been hahaha.

  3. #1144
    Running late on my reports, again. Got talking to a Korean coworker about the delights of this country. Then showed him the OP site, which I can't seem to be able to look at now for some reason (guessing the name changed again, tried a few different numbers at the end of it but none worked). Told him I wanted to try a lip cafe, so he found one and made us both an appointment.

    We both got two girls each for 150 k. 15 minutes each girl. Now these places have Korean college age girls, you can't kiss them, no FS, or doing anything to the girl. Least that's how it was for us. But of course, repeat enough with the right girl or even spit that Korean first time with a girl and YMMV. Coworker told me all these places have gone underground and are secretive. You need to use the site as they're not openly advertised how they used to be. BBBJs with CIM only at lip cafes.

    Get there, typical shower, then get in bed naked. The girls come lay down naked in bed with you. They'll have a cup full of mouth wash, thought this was for the guy cause we were going to make out a bit. I used the mouthwash foolishly, as there was no kissing allowed and I had to keep my mask on the whole time. I discovered what the mouthwash was for later. Pleasantly surprised.

    First girl was alright, short hair, could tell she wasn't really interested. BBBJ was ok, I'm foreigner size so she got tired and started using her hand. We didn't vibe well so I couldn't even finish. Apparently afterwards you are supposed to tell her how long of a break you want before the next girl comes in, I didn't know or understand this. Went and took another shower so I could be clean for the next girl and was hoping she'd help me finish.

    Went back to the room and laid down again, in comes the next girl. Looked prettier than the last girl, long hair, was very feminine and talked a bit with me. We caressed a bit and even complimented each other on our tattoos. Vibed a lot better with this girl and she even called me oppa LOL, already liking her. Don't know if I was just extra horny cause I didn't pop with the last girl, cause this girl was great. BBBJ was good and she know how to use her hands. I popped after about 10 minutes with her, CIM. She cleaned me up, spit my stuff out, then put the whole cup of mouthwash in her mouth.

    Afterwords she proceeded to continue the BBBJ service with the mouthwash in her mouth. First I was startled, then scared, and finally I just let it happen LOL, never had any girl do this for me before. Gotten BJs with mint gum in a girl's mouth, but never this. Wanted more since I only popped once but had work the next day, so me and my coworker left at around the same time.

    Don't ask me where this place was cause if it wasn't for my coworker then I can guarantee you I would not have found it. These places are well hidden. I don't understand how the police crack down on these places but have obvious massage parlors everywhere.

  4. #1143

    Question about General Strategies in Opstar for successful users only

    It seems that many places in the website offers a la carte menu at fixed standard rates at 9, 11,13, 15 etc etc.

    Most places ask for extra for no CD +2 , CIM +1, CIP +1, and CIF +1.

    I identified 2 places in Cheonan that did not post extra prices for extra services mentioned above.

    There are about 4-5 Thai restos and 1 Vietnamese resto in Cheonan.

    Only 2 Asan places had girls who I was interested in which happen to be Thai.

    Of course Korean providers are charging extra so I am not even considering them at all.

    Pyeongtaek seem to have more options but it seems many of the Bijeon Sosa places don't really advertise or maybe names are different.

    I am guessing you have to type your messages in Korean if you want to play ball with Opstar businesses.

    In order to close the Opstar deal I am wondering about these questions:

    1. Do you contact by cell phone text message, Kakaotalk, Whatsapp or Line?

    2. Do you try to propose a time and preferred girls right away plus type of services you want right away?

    3. Are the weekend or weekday experiences better? Day or night? I see the daytime discount of 10,000 won for almost all places.

    4. How are the lip cafes in Opstar? Are they actually meaningful BJs with active mouths or are they actually tug / pull with gel then swallow / taste?

    5. What percent of them ghost or change their mind about the agreement over the messages?

    6. Which parts of Pyeongtaek, Cheonan, and Asan have better chance of accepting foreigners or gyopos? (parts I talk about Asan: Yonghuidong vs Dunpo, Cheonan Seongjeongdong vs Dujeong, Pyeongtaek downtown vs Bijeon / Sosa vs other).

  5. #1142
    Quote Originally Posted by JeanEspero  [View Original Post]
    When I returned many of the hot ones were taken around mid-afternoon but I still found someone there 100 k with CD and 150 k without. She brings you to the 2nd floor and each room had high security with locks on doors with different combinations. It was nice CIP experience as if she was my hot wife, but a bit rushed like most RLD moments. I always try to treat the girl well and say she is my wife and I can marry her when she retires. She says I can not marry her because I don't speak Korean enough. I am a one shot dealer, hard for me to double pump or go for 2 or 3 pointers. My Korean level is intermediate and I am able to express most of my creative thoughts well. I prefer looking university style and age slender girls with small boobs and a kind of loose my virginity with a hot girl experience seeker.

    Possible lesson learned: Pyeongtaek RLD might be more interesting in the daytime around lunchtime? Maybe Sosa / Bijeon opens late afternoon but couldn't verify.
    Thanks, I think I was due some failures cause I had been successful everywhere I had been to so far. I was due a few failures to humble me, can't win them all. First you lose your innocence, then you lose your ignorance. So need to gain more knowledge with trial and error.

    Most places in Sosa open around 2 pm, I think, least that what some of the managers tell me. Like I said before, you need to repeat so they can warm up to you and more to be available to you. Also, your sessions won't be so rushed. The fact that they are even entertaining the fact of seeing foreigners during COVID seems to be a blessing LOL.

  6. #1141

    Got to be a repeat patron

    Quote Originally Posted by JeanEspero  [View Original Post]
    Do all places have a weekday rate vs weekend rate? Is 130 k all inclusive 2 shots or do you pay for a la carte additions?

    I expect the girls to be enthusiastic the first time so that I am a repeat customer. I expect them to be lucky to see me.

    I love long nails; they make me stand up straight at attention, but I notice that the girls with pale white skin are usually more full of themselves and less motivated to please. I am a die hard guy preferring tanned chocolate skin.
    Only the places I've been to in Sosa I can speak on, so I can't speak for all locations. As they get far more traffic Fri and Sat, so the prices tend to be about 10 K Won higher at a minimum. Been a repeat customer at a couple places in Sosa on a weekday and weekend, where I noticed the differences. I haven't seen it go over 10 K difference.

    It is all inclusive, but unfortunately it is for 1 shot only and whatever the manager is comfortable with. I've seen the OP site, and none of the places I've been to, except one (report coming soon), are advertised on there. The OP site locations allow for multiple shots, so at this point I'm overpaying not using that resource. Best bet is to get a LINE and try to pull some of these girls to a hotel, also which I have yet to do. Getting tired of paying so much for 1 shot and no LINEs to show for it LOL.

    Don't expect to be treated like a King on your first time there, especially first time with that specific girl. From what I've read from others and personal experience, you need to be a repeat patron before they warm up to you. Unless your Korean is at a good level or you're Korean. I have noticed that the lighter skinned girls, whether Chinese or Thai, are as you described. My best sessions so far have all been with tanned skin Thai girls here, which have me as a repeat. Have yet to try any other Asian ethnicity except those two here, so further outings are mandatory to increase the testing pool.

  7. #1140

    Did Anny used to work in Shampoo or the Queen in Asan Onyang?

    Has anyone visited either shop Shampoo or the Queen in Asan near Onyang Oncheon Station? Any reviews?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlapStickFun01  [View Original Post]
    Came down for some meetings and had to get some play in since Seoul is dried up. Found a place on Op that had an American friendly girl. Her name was Anny. Cute little spinner that took a pretty good pound and her headgame was insane. Did the the course was 2 shots and a shower. I will go into more detail later. You can message the booker on line messenger.

  8. #1139

    Questions about Sosa Bijeon massage places

    Do all places have a weekday rate vs weekend rate? Is 130 k all inclusive 2 shots or do you pay for a la carte additions?

    I expect the girls to be enthusiastic the first time so that I am a repeat customer. I expect them to be lucky to see me.

    I love long nails; they make me stand up straight at attention, but I notice that the girls with pale white skin are usually more full of themselves and less motivated to please. I am a die hard guy preferring tanned chocolate skin.

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyReynolds  [View Original Post]
    Decided to go to Angel to collect on my discount. Got the weekday rate instead of the weekend rate, 130 K WON. Was also hoping the girl I keep seeing there was back, was still bent on getting her LINE. Feel as though I've built enough comfort with her to get some outside fun in a hotel. Keep in mind, I don't get to choose the girl, she's just the one that the clerk sends me. So either she's the one who handles all us dirty foreigners, that's the only girl there, or you got to earn the right to partake of the other girls in the roster. Based on how this visit went, I think it's the last option.

    Did the usual, shower and robe. I always wash the pelvic region extra thoroughly, don't want my manager to be displeased due to any smell in order to get better service. Also, to destroy any misconceptions they have about foreigners and better set it up for the next foreign guy in line..

  9. #1138

    Return to Bijeon / Sosa and Pyeongtaek RLD 3rd day of Chuseok

    Sorry to hear about your average experience in Sosa / Bijeon.

    Around lunchtime, I passed by the RLD and saw some 3-4 possible gems but they did not give enough eye contact. Around 12 noon or 1 pm might be a nice time to visit this area, although the day was the last day of Chuseok so maybe not sure if this is representative of a typical weekday in Pyeongtaek.

    I took the 888 A bus to Pyeongtaek Bijeon around lunchtime Wednesday last day of the 3 day Chuseok holiday. The door of the massage place I visited before was locked so either the place was closed for Chuseok OR I went to early in the afternoon.

    2 other places in Sosa were also closed so I just returned to the RLD area by taking bus 777 to keep the free transfer, then subway from Jije to Pyeongtaek mid afternoon.

    When I returned many of the hot ones were taken around mid-afternoon but I still found someone there 100 k with CD and 150 k without. She brings you to the 2nd floor and each room had high security with locks on doors with different combinations. It was nice CIP experience as if she was my hot wife, but a bit rushed like most RLD moments. I always try to treat the girl well and say she is my wife and I can marry her when she retires. She says I can not marry her because I don't speak Korean enough. I am a one shot dealer, hard for me to double pump or go for 2 or 3 pointers. My Korean level is intermediate and I am able to express most of my creative thoughts well. I prefer looking university style and age slender girls with small boobs and a kind of loose my virginity with a hot girl experience seeker.

    Possible lesson learned: Pyeongtaek RLD might be more interesting in the daytime around lunchtime? Maybe Sosa / Bijeon opens late afternoon but couldn't verify.

    I shall return as MacArthur says to Sosa Bijeon area next week to conserve my soldiers, my ammo and hard earned money.

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyReynolds  [View Original Post]
    Saw a couple Thai massage places that wanted to try out. Went to first one, think was called Koon, but was denied. Seems they don't want foreigners. Went to a couple other places, lights were one but no one was opening the door. Guess they're either closed or not accepting any foreigners either.

    Saw this place called Smile that I wanted to try, paid 50 K for 60 min. Usual shower, got an oil massage that was ok. This place has those mats on the floor, not the massage table everywhere else I've been to has. Then flip, girl was reluctant and wasn't sure about additional service as I was not average Asian male size. Sometimes I wonder why Asian men are envious of us foreigners, when they don't have to worry about getting turned at the door for these places or have their civilian women avoid us like we have the black plague LOL.

    Only thing she was willing to do was HJ or BBBJ, then she changed her mind and said only hand. I can no longer downgrade after being here, in the states you'd be lucky to get a HJ. If I wanted a HJ, then I'd just go back to my apartment and do it myself. That's almost as blasphemous as going to a restaurant and having to cook my own food.

  10. #1137
    Quote Originally Posted by JeanEspero  [View Original Post]
    S massage in Asan Technovalley has a very clean setup pay 80 k won for 90 minutes entrance fee (instead of the 60 k or so 60 minute option) then you pay 70 k won to the girl (there might have been other options).
    So 150 K total, shouldn't complain but seems a bit high. Susabol has places from 120 K - 140 K for same services with decent looking talent. I haven't been to S to compare and everyone has different tastes. I have a few more reports to add that I've been behind on. I know I'm the last one that needs to be talking about prices as others on this forum have told me these rates being paid are too high, especially since it's only 1 shot. These are 2 shot prices in other places, but you got to go thru the OP site to set those up.

  11. #1136

    Thai massage in Susabol

    Saw a couple Thai massage places that wanted to try out. Went to first one, think was called Koon, but was denied. Seems they don't want foreigners. Went to a couple other places, lights were one but no one was opening the door. Guess they're either closed or not accepting any foreigners either.

    Saw this place called Smile that I wanted to try, paid 50 K for 60 min. Usual shower, got an oil massage that was ok. This place has those mats on the floor, not the massage table everywhere else I've been to has. Then flip, girl was reluctant and wasn't sure about additional service as I was not average Asian male size. Sometimes I wonder why Asian men are envious of us foreigners, when they don't have to worry about getting turned at the door for these places or have their civilian women avoid us like we have the black plague LOL.

    Only thing she was willing to do was HJ or BBBJ, then she changed her mind and said only hand. I can no longer downgrade after being here, in the states you'd be lucky to get a HJ. If I wanted a HJ, then I'd just go back to my apartment and do it myself. That's almost as blasphemous as going to a restaurant and having to cook my own food. Oh wait, its Korea LOL. Seems I've been spoiled and need to humble myself.

    Asked if I could have a different girl provide services, but was told she's the only girl there. She could call a friend but would only do FS, no BBBJ. At this point, I didn't feel like waiting and felt I wasted my time. I thanked the girl and said I would just leave, no additional service wanted. Talked to the clerk, asked for 50% refund as I was in the massage for 30 minutes (yes, I looked at the clock). Guy didn't want to be helpful, said payment was for massage and it was given.

    Didn't want to argue with him, as I knew I wasn't going to win that battle. Would not recommend, unless you have far better luck than me. Think she quoted 50 K for BBBJ, don't really remember. Good luck out there!

  12. #1135

    Bijeon dong behind CGV Bijeon Pyeongtaek & Asan Technovalley has massage places!!

    Bijeon dong behind CGV Bijeon Pyeongtaek & Asan Technovalley has so many Thai massage places like a huge supermarket of 4th and 5th floor places.

    Wondering if anyone explored the following places in Bijeon CGV area:

    Kan Massage.

    Kun Massage.

    Gung Massage.

    Soon Massage.

    Yeowoo / Fox Massage.

    Swing Massage.

    Myeongga massage.

    Star massage.

    Geijok massage.

    Bijeon massage.

    From Pyeongtaek station use CGV Bijeon as the landmark looking at the 5 way intersection you can veer to the very left street in front the RLD area and cross then look for and take 888 A 888 B or 999 bus or taxi to that place. This is 300 meter north of Pyeongtaek City Hall (shi-cheong).

    Asan Technovalley has similar 6-8 places plus S massage.

    To get to Technovalley you take bus 503 from Onyang-Oncheon station OR better yet with more frequent intervals take bus 200 across the main street from Seonghwan Station.

    S massage in Asan Technovalley has a very clean setup pay 80 k won for 90 minutes entrance fee (instead of the 60 k or so 60 minute option) then you pay 70 k won to the girl (there might have been other options).

    Showers are in each room and bathroom is near the stairs outside the main entrance.

    The Thai girl in S massage was pretty hot but she was chubby; there seemed to be hotter ones there based on the kinds of medium height high heels suggesting I got a chubbier than normal girl and the high heels suggest there were more slender girls. There are 11-12 thai girls in the place and it seems to be pretty busy / popular most of the day or night. They could not pinpoint a less busy time when I inquired.

    YMMV and the condom did not seem to be optional but required. The Thai girl I had spoke English better than Korean.

    This is based on experience with one Thai girl and others might be different.

    After my nice Thai meal I explored / passed by the Pyeongtaek RLD near the train station and it looked very weak. The girls mostly looked in the late 20's early 30's and probably more YMMV than the Thai massage places plus look like they are in a hurry with no eye contact.

    My new plan of action in the rest of September and October is to stick with Miari slim pickings and explore Bijeon and Technovalley to find better Thai cooking.

    I am sure I can find it soon.

  13. #1134
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelingJohn#2  [View Original Post]
    It is now the same as so many before that has been destroyed.
    What did we do to deserve this man? I was planning to going to Suwon especially for this I'll probably still and see what I can find!

  14. #1133

    It was destroyed

    Quote Originally Posted by Penetrador  [View Original Post]
    What do you mean Suwon RLD closed? What happened to it?
    It is now the same as so many before that has been destroyed.

  15. #1132
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelingJohn#2  [View Original Post]
    With Suwon closed many foreigners are visiting Pyeongteak but there are no be row girls. There are really old girls next to the Hotel that will except anyone but they appear to be over 60.

    I have not tried any of the fatter girls so maybe they would be openminded.
    What do you mean Suwon RLD closed? What happened to it?

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