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  1. #7124
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Never had a 20 or 30 minute girl at Thermae. Have you? For me at least they are all generous with time there. I had one clock watching and warned me that my hour was nearly over. Ruined my mood for sex. Then I asked her if she wanted some food after our session and she said yes and spent the next 2 hours with me eating. Go figure.
    Good question. It is hard to remember the fine details now, it is so long since I had a decent experience with a Thermae girl. Last one I managed to fuck, I remember being restrictive about Kissing, DATY I forget? Fine details I forget. I guess her body was less good when she undressed. I think I recall silicones. I remember she was a bare pass at best. I remember memorable girls much better. Have not had a memorable girl from Thermae in recent years so no repeats at all.

    My main issue occurs before going with a girl. Clearly some girls want me, but I usually don't want them, and the reverse. Once on the bed the girls often become stiff and nervous. I like a girl who is relaxed and goes for it. Didn't happen. I just accept that it is a difficult hunting ground for me. Some girls I like the look of don't even want to make eye contact with me, let alone talk to me. Maybe I sure pretend not to speak Thai. I doubt it counts in my favour. The message is obvious. The Thermae. Great for some but not suited to everyone.

    Last girl was Lao from Wianjan. Very nice to talk to but clearly very inexperienced with Farang, maybe never had one. Clothes came off. Body was not that great. On the bed she seized up with stiff legs dick scared, did not make it easy to fuck her. In fact I was not able to fuck her. Legs just never relaxed. I think there may have been an issue with a sponge as well. Forget now. Always very hard to remember bad experiences accurately. A few months ago.

    Had vastly better luck with an experienced street walker on Soi 4 recently. She was from Bangkok (not isaan) tall and liked Farangs. She was really into it big time, full on kissing, DATY, good BBBJ, orgasmic, the whole lot, no time watching. I can't just fuck any girl. I need to find those that are really into it and want to enjoy themselves not just make money. So I know I get to be a more difficult customer as I get older, however when girl has right looks and attitude, everything can go great ( nearly wrote go swimmingly ha ha).

    I should be letting the girls choose me maybe, but they have to be my spec. I have never been able to pull a stunner (to my taste) in the Thermae. In a Cowboy bar, yes I can find one sometimes. I am able to choose girls with stunning tits and ass, because I can see what they have clearly. Even some great faces.

    When I was 35 YO, Thermae girls really liked me a lot, even very average looking. Now maybe too old, or not fat enough, or just not Asian.

    No need for me to waste my time in the Thermae. Never saw anything there incredibly special, where I could not find equal or better looks in a gogo bar. We each discover our more productive hunting grounds.

  2. #7123
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
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    I have never negotiated price at Thermae. A couple of girls who may not recognize me may quote me a price before we leave but you will never see me asking "how much?" at Thermae. I try to keep things simple and go with the flow. Negotiations just don't seem needed at Thermae. We all know the price at Thermae is 2500 +/- 500 baht for a 'Farang' surcharge if the girl doesn't find you attractive.

    ...
    I agree but would not confine it to Thermae. I submit that, as long as the girl has every reason to expect you will not require anything extra (i.e. BBBJ+CIM, BBFS+CIP, Anal) and you are fine with basic, standard fare of "lick around the edges, if that, slip on a condom and proceed" and you are prepared to pay the going rate (assuming you know the going rate), there is virtually no reason to negotiate price or anything else with any girl in any venue or on the street anywhere in Thailand. Any punter of any age, race, creed, physical condition or ethnicity can get 99% of the girls in the business to go with him without mention of money or any other detail as long as he fits that profile.

    Where it gets tricky and becomes at least a moderate challenge is when the punter, as it is for me, wants or needs one or more of the mentioned extras agreed to upfront (i.e. BBBJ+CIM, BBFS+CIP, Anal) in order to justify spending time, effort and money for it. In that case, extra money will very likely be mentioned by someone on either side of the negotiation or discussion. Usually the girl.

    That is when I have wound up agreeing to pay an extra 500 baht or so to Thermae girls and other girls in the business. Or maybe they are demanding an extra 500 baht surcharge for me being an unattractive Farang and the upfront agreement to provide BBFS+CIP is thrown in for free out of pity.

  3. #7122
    Quote Originally Posted by RobertLong  [View Original Post]
    I stay in a condo abnb on soi 21, Midtown Plaza. I always take a taxi with a lady, meter 45 thb, 100 thb max if they insist. I have never had a lady ask where you stay while nego the price.
    I would definitely take a taxi too if I was as far as Asoke. When I say Soi 19 I mean the Westin which according to Google maps is a 3 minute 230 meter walk and Soi 11 is Grand Swiss which is a 4 minute 300 meter walk and much longer via taxi trough traffic and the turnarounds.

    I have never negotiated price at Thermae. A couple of girls who may not recognize me may quote me a price before we leave but you will never see me asking "how much?" at Thermae. I try to keep things simple and go with the flow. Negotiations just don't seem needed at Thermae. We all know the price at Thermae is 2500 +/- 500 baht for a 'Farang' surcharge if the girl doesn't find you attractive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    However some girls are trying for 20 to 30 minutes.
    Never had a 20 or 30 minute girl at Thermae. Have you? For me at least they are all generous with time there. I had one clock watching and warned me that my hour was nearly over. Ruined my mood for sex. Then I asked her if she wanted some food after our session and she said yes and spent the next 2 hours with me eating. Go figure.

  4. #7121
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Could this be a possible reason you don't have much luck at Thermae? You know one of the first, if not the first, question a Thermae girl asks relates to where you are staying. The right answer is upstairs at Ruamchit. Believe me I have had Thermae girls unhappy I am staying even as near as Soi 11 or Soi 19 which are less than a 5 minute walk from Thermae. Staying in the hotel upstairs may also get you the 2500 baht price rather than a 3000+ baht price since they don't have to travel 20 minutes each way to a hotel near On Nut BTS.
    I stay in a condo abnb on soi 21, Midtown Plaza. I always take a taxi with a lady, meter 45 thb, 100 thb max if they insist. I have never had a lady ask where you stay while nego the price. Also I have always had ladies that take their time and always wait for me to finish. That is an issue I have had to deal with as I age. It takes much longer to cum. I even had one lady that took off the condom and said now you can. It might be the fact that I go early, before 10:00 and they know they can get back to catch a second customer in 2 hours. "Little Tokyo" or Thermae is easy pickings, I always look for attitude for my choice.

    RL.

  5. #7120

    Ruamchitt Hotel.

    I noticed the prices of Ruamchitt Hotel has gone up considerably after the OYO 108 group takeover. It's a bummer because I am staying there nowadays if I have to bring girls from Thermae to my room.

  6. #7119
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Is this a reasonable expectation? It's one thing if a girl stays 90 minutes or 6 hours ST on her own accord because she likes you but it's another to expect the standard 1 hour ST limit to be 90 minutes without offering her a tip or taking her LT. Do you actually tell all NEW gogo girls and bar girls up front that you expect 90 minutes ST? I can't see you doing that.

    No, let's not confuse not wanting to walk 5 minutes to be bad attitude and only interested in quickies. It's called being Thai and being lazy. One of the girls who complained about the walk is my Thermae girl you saw. She's damn lazy when it comes to walking but one of the best sex maniacs in the room. I called her out on it once and she says she needs to save all her energy for the room. None of the others who complained had bad attitudes either and I am definitely not one where they had an quick or easy session.
    Girls don't like walking. No problem. Simple answer is taxi or motorcycle. I never make a girl walk more than 50 metres in high heels. Purely up to her if she wants to walk. I always allow a taxi if she wants. So I guess I was misinterpreting your post before. Staying somewhere relatively close should never be a problem unless the girl is trying to make it a problem.

    Maybe my ST is unreasonable for some, I can make do with 60 minutes if I have to. However some girls are trying for 20 to 30 minutes. So I would make it clear I need at least 60 minutes if asked or if I get the rush rush girl vibe.

    2 hours was once considered the standard ST, and that is not many years ago, maybe just 5 years ago. What we are used to always seems reasonable given the price has risen rapidly.

    You were not here in old days (1991) where bargirl would stay all night for a measly 500 Baht (sometimes less) and then next day had to really kick her out. Never did ST back then except in a Soapy which cost more. Almost all girls were giving a great GFE. Girls often reluctant to leave. Farangs were treating them just so good compared to what they were used to, back then (hard to believe I know). Hence the old old term "you pay the girl to make her leave". Imagine now 1980. Girls were probably 200 Baht for the night (or less). Cheaper than the Hotel room, most likely. So made no sense to sleep alone ever, when sex and temporary hired GFs, better than what we were used to back home, were on tap. Thai food was also incredibly cheap back then but is still good value now. Back then girls usually did not have English, or very poor levels, so made sense to develop Thai Language skills.

    I digress, but we shows we pay much more to get much less. I don't want to ever get to a 30 minutes standard booking here. The big advantage of Thai girl mongering has always been to get more time for our money compared to European mongering. That meant 2 hour ST originally or all night LT. Getting the ST time seriously eroded, is not a great option for many of us. Even in Europe I never took 30 min bookings.

  7. #7118
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Soi 11 or 19 is not that far. If girl is unhappy with that, it shows she has a bad attitude and is interested in quickies. One reason I can get rejected is my ST is not very short. I take significant time. 60 minutes is barely enough for me. With a hot girl, I prefer longer so 90 minutes plus if in my own room.
    Is this a reasonable expectation? It's one thing if a girl stays 90 minutes or 6 hours ST on her own accord because she likes you but it's another to expect the standard 1 hour ST limit to be 90 minutes without offering her a tip or taking her LT. Do you actually tell all NEW gogo girls and bar girls up front that you expect 90 minutes ST? I can't see you doing that.

    No, let's not confuse not wanting to walk 5 minutes to be bad attitude and only interested in quickies. It's called being Thai and being lazy. One of the girls who complained about the walk is my Thermae girl you saw. She's damn lazy when it comes to walking but one of the best sex maniacs in the room. I called her out on it once and she says she needs to save all her energy for the room. None of the others who complained had bad attitudes either and I am definitely not one where they had an quick or easy session.

  8. #7117
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Could this be a possible reason you don't have much luck at Thermae? You know one of the first, if not the first, question a Thermae girl asks relates to where you are staying. The right answer is upstairs at Ruamchit. Believe me I have had Thermae girls unhappy I am staying even as near as Soi 11 or Soi 19 which are less than a 5 minute walk from Thermae. Staying in the hotel upstairs may also get you the 2500 baht price rather than a 3000+ baht price since they don't have to travel 20 minutes each way to a hotel near On Nut BTS.
    Soi 11 or 19 is not that far. If girl is unhappy with that, it shows she has a bad attitude and is interested in quickies. One reason I can get rejected is my ST is not very short. I take significant time. 60 minutes is barely enough for me. With a hot girl, I prefer longer so 90 minutes plus if in my own room.

    I expect these girls would be refusing a long DATY, and hounding the guy "when are you going to come, it hurts already?" My idea of good attitude was bar girl keen to make money but did not negotiate a price. When I asked if she will do ST or LT, she said no problem, up to me. I guess she does not get BFed every night let alone going multiple times. This makes her attitude much more like trying to please to the max and she wants me to repeat her. So cute natural and tall but not stunning and brown skin. Not everyone's taste but doable for me similar to the bargirls 28 years ago.

    I guess I can see why many guys claim stunning girls have bad attitudes. Does not have to be always the case. I do prefer to find a stunner suited to me, but tough to do it.

    All my regular girls, I ask if they would like a DATY before or after the sex, or skip it. They could skip it to save time, but none of them are keen to skip it (unless on heavy blood stage of period of course), and usually they like it to get really into it, before the fucking. So I like girls with this attitude.

  9. #7116
    I always stayed in the most expensive corner rooms that were almost double the price of the cheap rooms. Regular size hotel room. Yes they have tiny 15 sqm rooms but I never stayed in one. The names of the rooms have now changed since it's been taken over by the Oyo group.

    But the point of my post was to stay near thermae and not on soi 85 or even soi 33 to succeed there. Sofitel, s15 sukhumvit, and four seasons are also steps away.

  10. #7115
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Could this be a possible reason you don't have much luck at Thermae? You know one of the first, if not the first, question a Thermae girl asks relates to where you are staying. The right answer is upstairs at Ruamchit. Believe me I have had Thermae girls unhappy I am staying even as near as Soi 11 or Soi 19 which are less than a 5 minute walk from Thermae. Staying in the hotel upstairs may also get you the 2500 baht price rather than a 3000+ baht price since they don't have to travel 20 minutes each way to a hotel near On Nut BTS.
    But the rooms at Ruamchit are terrible. So tiny that if I stretch out both hands I could touch opposite walls. They make me feel claustrophobic. Went there for an ST with a Thermae girl a few years ago, the only one time I went there and I could not finish because I was so uncomfortable. Standard double room I think. Have they upgraded?

  11. #7114
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    In that area, I can suggest At Mind Executive apartments (5 minutes from On Nut BTS) in Soi 85 (much closer to Sukhumvit road). I have stayed there before, often heavily booked. However I think Feliz was better still only 100 metres from Phrakhanong BTS.
    Could this be a possible reason you don't have much luck at Thermae? You know one of the first, if not the first, question a Thermae girl asks relates to where you are staying. The right answer is upstairs at Ruamchit. Believe me I have had Thermae girls unhappy I am staying even as near as Soi 11 or Soi 19 which are less than a 5 minute walk from Thermae. Staying in the hotel upstairs may also get you the 2500 baht price rather than a 3000+ baht price since they don't have to travel 20 minutes each way to a hotel near On Nut BTS.

  12. #7113
    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    Even though I seldom stay in budget hotels, thank you for this info Syzygies. I'm sure many members here prefer a budget hotel and appreciate your post. I usually spend B2400-B2700/ night but I'm always interested in something cheaper of good standard. For the budget traveler I would like to mention Chateau de Sukhumvit on Sukhumvit / Soi 56. My friend stays here and I have visited many times. Rooms are B900-B1000 and are of a good standard. Not luxurious but good and clean. Bathrooms and showers are large. Mattresses are not too hard as I find in most budget hotels. I would stay here myself except their location is not ideal. It is a 10 minute walk from On Nut BTS which is too far for me. The neighborhood is residential and nice and quiet. They do provide a free tuk tuk service and you can easily find a motorcycle taxi from On Nut BTS.

    This hotel is owned by the owners of the Nana Hotel. I believe the son manages it. It is always interesting to see which luxury car he is driving to work each day. He has quite a collection.

    I would recommend this place for someone looking for a good, quiet well-priced hotel a little bit away from Sukhumvit Road.
    In that area, I can suggest At Mind Executive apartments (5 minutes from On Nut BTS) in Soi 85 (much closer to Sukhumvit road). I have stayed there before, often heavily booked. However I think Feliz was better still only 100 metres from Phrakhanong BTS.

  13. #7112

    Another Budget Hotel

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Some really budget Hotels tried this year (possibly all were no smoking. I don't smoke and don't know). Smokers might need a balcony:
    Even though I seldom stay in budget hotels, thank you for this info Syzygies. I'm sure many members here prefer a budget hotel and appreciate your post. I usually spend B2400-B2700/ night but I'm always interested in something cheaper of good standard. For the budget traveler I would like to mention Chateau de Sukhumvit on Sukhumvit / Soi 56. My friend stays here and I have visited many times. Rooms are B900-B1000 and are of a good standard. Not luxurious but good and clean. Bathrooms and showers are large. Mattresses are not too hard as I find in most budget hotels. I would stay here myself except their location is not ideal. It is a 10 minute walk from On Nut BTS which is too far for me. The neighborhood is residential and nice and quiet. They do provide a free tuk tuk service and you can easily find a motorcycle taxi from On Nut BTS.

    This hotel is owned by the owners of the Nana Hotel. I believe the son manages it. It is always interesting to see which luxury car he is driving to work each day. He has quite a collection.

    I would recommend this place for someone looking for a good, quiet well-priced hotel a little bit away from Sukhumvit Road.

  14. #7111
    Quote Originally Posted by OrientalLover  [View Original Post]
    I'm staying at Fraser Suites, soi 11.

    The room I'm staying in is one bedroom with balcony. It seems these rooms are recently renovated. About a 10 minute walk to sukhumwit road. The hotel has tuk tuk service to the main road but tuk tuk is never available and there is no scheduled time.

    Hotel is girl friendly hotel. Elevator is accessible by key card.
    The rooftop bar is super! Just view and music and drinks so bring your own girl!

  15. #7110

    Budget Hotels review

    Some really budget Hotels tried this year (possibly all were no smoking. I don't smoke and don't know). Smokers might need a balcony:

    * Feliz Apartments. Soi 69 very near to Phrakhanong BTS - 1400 Baht per night (or was it 1600? forgot) extreme value for money. Apartment has kitchen, microwave, washing machine, etc. , large fridge, very modern, balcony, bathroom probably small (no bath) but good. No faults other then room key left me no clue as to which floor I was staying on Ha ha, and did not even show the full room number (just last two digits). Bed comfortable.

    * Sakura Sky. Soi 33 - around the 1000 Baht mark for double room. Room is large for low price but thecor attempts style for Japanese customers but is damaged. Again value for money. The huge weakness is big gap under the door. Noise in the Hotel travels such as Thai couple on a naughty, squabbling down the hallway. The girl got shut out of the room without her phone etc. Conversation in Thai but I understand all too well. Hotel management seemed reluctant to do anything. No Bouncers or security staff I guess. No swimming pool? Some backpackers stay in dormitory section and there exist also capsule rooms. Bed mattress slightly on the hard side. Noise the big weakness (and unrepaired damage). Has a bath (big deal).

    * EM33 on Sukhumvit road near to Soi 33. Price just over 1 K. Very basic room for the dcor but okay Bathroom pipes have odour. Small fridge, no Breakfast available to my knowledge. Staff willing to microwave my food at reception. Reasonable value.

    * Case Study. Near to Petchburi MRT in small Soi of Asoke. Easy Motorcycle ride to get to Sukhumvit (or MRT if traffic jam). No elevator, no daily room clean, but good standard room, long and skinny room. Bathroom good. Very Quiet location. About 1200 Baht per night. Reception is caf downstairs and only open Caf hours. They probably won't know how many girls take to the room at night. Ha ha. Can collect some spare towels yourself. Small fridge but has a small freezer. Bed comfortable.

    * Studio Asoke, near Pullman Hotel in Asoke. Close to cowboy 1125 Baht at the time. Good sized room. Thecor very basic, damage not repaired. Was in room at back 4th floor so not that noisy other than distant motorbike roar. Medium fridge 4 ft tall with freezer. Bed very comfortable. Space to store your stuff so room not cramped. Big weakness is lack of power points. Bathroom has no inside power socket at all. One just outside around the corner. Wasn't originally a Hotel. Even desk lamp is not running because there is no power point available (used by TV and Cable TV box). Ha ha. Naturally everyone has adapters and power boards, right? At least the international travellers should have. So lack of power sockets easily solved by unplugging the TV and plugging in my universal double adapter and also a power board with several sockets. I have too many adapters for various countries. Very convenient location. Sukhumvit MRT is directly across the road. Easy walk to BTS and Cowboy. I would probably stay there more if wasn't booked out. A low floor near to Asoke road (if that exists) might be noisy. Has no bath. Why would one need that? 300 Baht key deposit. No smoking.

    My favourite choices would probably be Feliz Apartments (classy) if one can stand to be located at Soi 69 (Thais can't pronounce Feliz so not sure what they call it), right on the BTS though, and 2nd Studio Asoke if one does not mind no kitchen (low class but practical) - shortage of power points the main fault noticed.

    When I wanted a Hotel Room to impress the girl (ha ha), Column Hotel is my favourite, very classy, but price not too ridiculous (at the time). I don't stay expensive much any more in Bangkok. I stay in 3000 to 5000 Baht Hotels OS for work but don't see the need here, just to lie in a bed or sit at a desk. Keep money to spend on girls. ha ha. Good aircon, comfortable and good Fridge matter. I don't see any need to try to impress hookers by staying in a more expensive room. They would much rather receive a cash bonus from me, and I rarely do LT anyway.

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