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  1. #4514
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    I've been chatting to a few girls on ThaiFriendly, Facebook and Instagram. 'Insta-ho' types with big asses and tits, gym selfies and professional photoshoots on their profiles. They're firm at 4000 thb short time.
    I love the 'Insta-ho' reference. I think you have done very well to get some of them to actually reply as these girls get 100's of daily messages across all their platforms. Maybe because you are actually in Phuket you get a better response. Maybe because Phuket is an island cut off from the rest of Thailand the remaining girls have a more limited range of customers.

    Since the pandemic started I have been trolling the 'Insta-ho' sub genre in Bangkok. These super hotties definitely still earn good cash hence ask and still get an above average price.

    I have written a pretty good script that gets a 20% response rate. I see them quote 3 k to 6 k short term with most being in the 4 k to 5 k range. Even seen a few ask 10 k for a few hours.

    If you can get an intro from a friend, get them both to come over or build some kind of relationship their prices come back to standard hottie price in BKK of 3 k st /5 to 6 k LT.

  2. #4513
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]

    Today, I've been prospecting on TF in Pattaya in preparation for my recent move. There's lots more girls in the 18-24 range than in Phuket. In an effort to remain organised, I tried to 'arrange' my Line contact list before adding any Pattaya girls. Like an idiot, I thought 'create' group was just an organisational feature. And so, what I've gone and done is add all the girls I've fucked and been talking to one huge group chat. They can all see who added them (me). And who else is in the group. Dealing with the fallout from that one. Yikes. I think it's good I'm leaving in a couple of days.

    Plan tonight is same same as last night, but this time I'm putting my big boy pants on and just talking to some girls. If I strike out on that, I think it'll just be a repeat with Cutie With A Booty.
    Line tip, Since you created the group and invited everyone you can edit and delete any or all other members.

  3. #4512
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    It is unusual to find two gorgeous working girls alone in a Thai bar full of farang. More typically these bar girls are closer to average appearance. There will be a few that look really good, but not many.

    Long ago I was with a non-P4P Thai girl listening to live music in an area known for freelancers. The bar had a few couples, a few farang men, and several small groups of unaccompanied Thai women. My date said that every unaccompanied woman in that bar was a freelancer. She "guaranteed" it.

    In the situation that you mentioned, I question how gorgeous they were. If the venue was known for freelancers I don't question that they were looking for clients.

    Regarding approaching working girls in bars, I typically just say "Hello, my name is Horse, nice to meet you". I'm double your age so I'm sure your success rate will be higher than mine, but generally the girls have been polite. When they have zero interest in me, they typically turn their heads before I get close enough to say hello. There may or may not be a language barrier. I dont try to use the few Thai words that I know.

    Hope your friend has a blast.
    I think they were gorgeous. Ultimately, that's the only thing that matters, right? 5 foot spinners no older than early twenties, casually but sexily dressed, very pretty, with long straight hair, deeply tanned skin, toned little stomachs, pert little asses and boobs.

    If you can provide a link to the standardized scale for ranking the relative hotness of girls, I'll try to be more accurate in future reportage.

    Anyway.

    Day 12.

    Slept for a few hours after dropping GTG back at her room, then got a grab down to the beach about 6 pm. There's two places to drink. Tropical at one end of the beach, Lamai Resort / Restaurant at the other. Tropical has more of a 'bar feel' and is cheaper. 80 thb for a San Mig, versus 150 thb at Lamai!

    Tropical was mainly just a dozen farangs propping up the bar and slamming back beers. One group of Thai girls posted up there all night, though. OK looking, not stunning.

    Lamai was 'heaving. ' Maybe, 200 people eating and drinking. Lots of foreign couples. Half a dozen groups of Thai girls in 2's and 3's, unaccompanied, some of them absolutely gorgeous.

    I spent the night between the two bars, eating street food and a stroll around the massage places. Not really my thing I've discovered. A few times I pass groups of girls on the street and 'give them eye' and a smile, which I get back. But, nothing more. Same same at Lamai. My fault. I'm 'shy' and just couldn't get over my reluctance to just approach.

    Only 'obvious' freelancers are a gaggle of ladyboys on mopeds, driving round and round and stopping by any lone man that looks in their direction. I'm fooled by one, he stops. Then the voice gives it away and I back off.

    While I've been making my rounds, I've been chatting to a few girls on ThaiFriendly, Facebook and Instagram. 'Insta-ho' types with big asses and tits, gym selfies and professional photoshoots on their profiles. They're firm at 4000 thb short time. I'm in Thailand mainly for the spinners. I'll go to Brazil and Colombia to fuck that kind of girl.

    Everything shuts down at about 11 pm, beer and street food diet has taken its toll on my digestive system, so I just get a bike taxi back to the hotel and sleep. Alone.

    Today, I've been prospecting on TF in Pattaya in preparation for my recent move. There's lots more girls in the 18-24 range than in Phuket. In an effort to remain organised, I tried to 'arrange' my Line contact list before adding any Pattaya girls. Like an idiot, I thought 'create' group was just an organisational feature. And so, what I've gone and done is add all the girls I've fucked and been talking to one huge group chat. They can all see who added them (me). And who else is in the group. Dealing with the fallout from that one. Yikes. I think it's good I'm leaving in a couple of days.

    Plan tonight is same same as last night, but this time I'm putting my big boy pants on and just talking to some girls. If I strike out on that, I think it'll just be a repeat with Cutie With A Booty.

  4. #4511
    Quote Originally Posted by DannyDuck  [View Original Post]
    I bet all my Apple share the gogo girls Mr E gets off the clock at Bargain Basement prices are the ones not meeting their Barfine Quota to qualify for Dalary.

    Nothing else makes sense.

    For reference. Stars get more than one customer a shift. Mr E types lucky to get 2 a month.
    Speaking mostly for my experiences and observations in Bangkok since I have barely mongered at all in Phuket and, frankly, I would be hard pressed to recall any of the few dozen Pattaya girls I have had over the years whose looks and demeanor would inspire me to repeat them for free much less for 1,000 baht, I think it was possible during Normal Times to catch a (star) go-go girl who routinely commanded a 2,500 - 3,000 baht fee for Short Time at least 6 or 7 times per week in a condition where she would flop spread eagle nearly comatose drunk at 4am on the nearest bed and after she woke up at 2pm later that day accept 1,000 baht note from whoever with a shrug and be on her way. Possible but rare.

    But seeing how those star girls share their Line info with their 2,500 - 3,000 baht fee customers every bit as readily and often as the "get barfined 2 times a month" girls do with their "come see me after work or your day off for 1,000 baht" customers, I'm guessing 99% of the time the Line messages the stars send or reply to are with the guys who see paying her only 2,000 baht for that Long Time or even a Short Time on her day off with no barfine or ladydrinks is also a pretty good deal. It's probably not going to be the guy who thinks 1,000 baht for a bareback (claimed as "standard" in Thailand) Long Time with a star go-go girl is plenty since getting that deal is commonplace for him and no reason it wouldn't or shouldn't be for everybody.

    Again, only talking about Normal Times up until about 18 months ago.

    I'm not saying it didn't happen or couldn't happen. But anyone who was heading to Bangkok during Normal Times on the assumption that if anybody and everybody could have and should have been doing exactly that with popular (routine daily 2,500 - 3,000 ST fee) go-go girls for the past 16 years then it ought to be a snap to swing it for 2 weeks was likely jolted out of that assumption and into reality rather quickly.

  5. #4510
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    Appeal for wisdom.

    Two gorgeous Thai girls alone in a bar full of farangs.

    Working obviously? And how on earth does one go about talking to them?

    Asking for a friend.
    It is unusual to find two gorgeous working girls alone in a Thai bar full of farang. More typically these bar girls are closer to average appearance. There will be a few that look really good, but not many.

    Long ago I was with a non-P4P Thai girl listening to live music in an area known for freelancers. The bar had a few couples, a few farang men, and several small groups of unaccompanied Thai women. My date said that every unaccompanied woman in that bar was a freelancer. She "guaranteed" it.

    In the situation that you mentioned, I question how gorgeous they were. If the venue was known for freelancers I don't question that they were looking for clients.

    Regarding approaching working girls in bars, I typically just say "Hello, my name is Horse, nice to meet you". I'm double your age so I'm sure your success rate will be higher than mine, but generally the girls have been polite. When they have zero interest in me, they typically turn their heads before I get close enough to say hello. There may or may not be a language barrier. I don’t try to use the few Thai words that I know.

    Hope your friend has a blast.

  6. #4509
    I bet all my Apple share the gogo girls Mr E gets off the clock at Bargain Basement prices are the ones not meeting their Barfine Quota to qualify for Dalary.

    Nothing else makes sense.

    For reference. Stars get more than one customer a shift. Mr E types lucky to get 2 a month.

  7. #4508
    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbass  [View Original Post]
    All due respect. Read what I wrote. I did not say don't travel there, I did not say don't get a manicure. I did not say don't eat at restaurants, don't take tours, do not rent scooters, don't buy drinks, don't get a massage on the beach, don't buy souvenirs.

    I said reset the market. Pay the Unicorn the correct rate, but don't grossly overpay an average Alice. IJS.
    Good to know mongerers can become or act like one of those global corporates able to "reset prices" in their advantage.

    I can imagine that if ST eventually went from 1 k (30 USD) to 1,5 k (45 USD), ((did it? By the way)) with the huge mass of sandbox travellers flooding Phuket, it's time "to reset the market" at its correct rate with the purchase power these masses have.

    On the other hand I can well imagine that after having spent a couple of thousands dollars in a 2-4 week holiday trip, the saving of 10/15 bucks a day by not "overpaying" will represent an awesome sum. I bet it will be used back home to buy shares at the stock market and carry on in being a smart investor: 500.00 $ will attract many financial consultants and I can only suggest to select them carefully.

  8. #4507
    Appeal for wisdom.

    Two gorgeous Thai girls alone in a bar full of farangs.

    Working obviously? And how on earth does one go about talking to them?

    Asking for a friend.

  9. #4506
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    I won't be doing sandbox as long as vaccinated foreigners are locked up because they sat on the airplane near unvaccinated but sick children. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that has already happened.
    lol it's people like you who will go to Phuket and will not want to go anywhere else.

    These are the best clients of Phuket sandbox.

  10. #4505

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    Day 11.

    Didn't really feel up to much after the night's activities with PTC. And it was raining again.

    So, another day of lazing. Some more messages from GTG, I was bored and lonely. And she's good banter. And 'free. ' So I invited her over to swim at the pool by my room, rain notwithstanding. She looks phenomenal in a bikini. Sun comes out just as she arrives, so we spend the afternoon lazing by the pool, drinking beer and swimming. I'm laughing hysterically at her revelation she can't 'swim down. ' By that, she means dive to the bottom of the pool. Every time she tries, she's just kicking along on the surface with her great arse sticking out of the water.

    Shower, take her to a little thai restaurant around the corner. And she can eat, as well as drink. Hit 7/11 afterwards and I'm not ready for beer after so much food, so she spends 20 minutes agonizing over the 4 different available bottles of crap red wine. Pick up some beer, cigarettes and condoms too (her call.).

    Back at the room, another epic drinking session commences. I hit my limit before her and crawl into bed at about 3 am while she finishes off a last beer. 30 minutes later, she's nudging me awake and crawling into bed with me, naked. Good deep French kissing, she's got over her reluctance to do a BBJ and I think she's going to break my neck with her legs when I go down on her. She's amazingly strong.

    We're rolling around on the bed, grinding on eachother. And I slip in, for a second. And she hilts herself. She gets a really worried look on her face and scrambles off to get a condom. Over the next two hours, we burn through the three-pack. And she seems like she's always on the edge of going bareback. She fucks like a wild animal and we're throwing eachother around the bed (I'm not huge and she's strong.).

    Finally, at about 5 am, we're done and try to sleep. My lower back and glutes are in spasm from the workout and it's really painful. She notices me squirming and gives me another deep tissue massage. That sorts out the problem, so we finally fall asleep.

    I wake her up at about 10 am. I'm starving, so we shower and head up to breakfast (I'm firmly over my reticence to be seen in public with a girl. And she looks like a normal 'good girl', not an obvious working girl.).

    Again, she can eat! She puts away a Thai breakfast and what passes for an English breakfast while I have some scrambled eggs and toast.

    After, the sun is out, so I drive us to a nearby waterfall and she plays tour guide / photographer while we swim in the various pools. Icecream afterwards and I drop her back at her shitty 'Guest House. ' Before we left the hotel, I put 1000 baht in her purse for a 'present. '.

    I could get used to the 'holiday girlfriend' thing. Heading back out later, solo, to see if I can score any of the freelancing chicks on Beach Road, now the weather is better.

    In other news, I've firmed up my travel plans. Flight to BKK (there's none direct to Pattaya from Phuket soon enough), taxi to Pattaya and I've booked a condo for a few days. I can't get my head around the travel restrictions / different zones, what you're allowed to do. So I'm just going to do what I do best, play the loveably clueless and ineffably polite Englishman.
    When you get tired of driving boats you realy should take up writing books. Your reports are very readable, top stuff!

  11. #4504
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I don't go the barfine route. I have been living in Pattaya for 12 years and even the 4 years I was visiting before that I didn't do barfines. Girls I have fucked for 1000 all night have told me about guys paying them 10,000 for a few hours. Means shit. There are ugly girls in the same bar with pretty girls and they cost the same at the bar. What you pay has nothing to do with how the girl looks.
    That should of course have read "high end soapies". Prices at oilies are almost always uniform.

  12. #4503
    Quote Originally Posted by TConor  [View Original Post]
    Once those wanting to come back to LOS and do not want to do a 14 day quarantine in BKK dry up the sand box will be empty.
    We'll see. For the moment, tourist spots like Patong and Rawai are slowly filling up with tourists, drip by drop, but surely.

    It's not just mongers. In the 2 hotels where I went there are also families with children and western couples.

    I have a panoramic view of Nai Harn beach and it gets crowded.. Nothing to do with what I'm seeing on youtube of Pattaya beach right now. From here I can't say if they are Thais or Farangs, but a while ago when I went down there were a lot of westerners.

    The shops in Rawai are almost all open. Honestly, despite the rainy season, it's not the desert.

    On the other hand, all of Thailand and all tourists know that (at the moment) almost everyone is vaccinated and that Phuket is one of the safest places. Lots of girls I know from Pattaya would love to come to Phuket (difficult since the new rules for domestic travel to Phuket last night). Many farnant are thinking of changing their plan and are now thinking of staying in Phuket.

    Nobody knows. But maybe Phuket will pull it off, there are some indicators in the green. To be THE international tourist spot in Thailand for the high season.
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  13. #4502
    Day 11.

    Didn't really feel up to much after the night's activities with PTC. And it was raining again.

    So, another day of lazing. Some more messages from GTG, I was bored and lonely. And she's good banter. And 'free. ' So I invited her over to swim at the pool by my room, rain notwithstanding. She looks phenomenal in a bikini. Sun comes out just as she arrives, so we spend the afternoon lazing by the pool, drinking beer and swimming. I'm laughing hysterically at her revelation she can't 'swim down. ' By that, she means dive to the bottom of the pool. Every time she tries, she's just kicking along on the surface with her great arse sticking out of the water.

    Shower, take her to a little thai restaurant around the corner. And she can eat, as well as drink. Hit 7/11 afterwards and I'm not ready for beer after so much food, so she spends 20 minutes agonizing over the 4 different available bottles of crap red wine. Pick up some beer, cigarettes and condoms too (her call.).

    Back at the room, another epic drinking session commences. I hit my limit before her and crawl into bed at about 3 am while she finishes off a last beer. 30 minutes later, she's nudging me awake and crawling into bed with me, naked. Good deep French kissing, she's got over her reluctance to do a BBJ and I think she's going to break my neck with her legs when I go down on her. She's amazingly strong.

    We're rolling around on the bed, grinding on eachother. And I slip in, for a second. And she hilts herself. She gets a really worried look on her face and scrambles off to get a condom. Over the next two hours, we burn through the three-pack. And she seems like she's always on the edge of going bareback. She fucks like a wild animal and we're throwing eachother around the bed (I'm not huge and she's strong.).

    Finally, at about 5 am, we're done and try to sleep. My lower back and glutes are in spasm from the workout and it's really painful. She notices me squirming and gives me another deep tissue massage. That sorts out the problem, so we finally fall asleep.

    I wake her up at about 10 am. I'm starving, so we shower and head up to breakfast (I'm firmly over my reticence to be seen in public with a girl. And she looks like a normal 'good girl', not an obvious working girl.).

    Again, she can eat! She puts away a Thai breakfast and what passes for an English breakfast while I have some scrambled eggs and toast.

    After, the sun is out, so I drive us to a nearby waterfall and she plays tour guide / photographer while we swim in the various pools. Icecream afterwards and I drop her back at her shitty 'Guest House. ' Before we left the hotel, I put 1000 baht in her purse for a 'present. '.

    I could get used to the 'holiday girlfriend' thing. Heading back out later, solo, to see if I can score any of the freelancing chicks on Beach Road, now the weather is better.

    In other news, I've firmed up my travel plans. Flight to BKK (there's none direct to Pattaya from Phuket soon enough), taxi to Pattaya and I've booked a condo for a few days. I can't get my head around the travel restrictions / different zones, what you're allowed to do. So I'm just going to do what I do best, play the loveably clueless and ineffably polite Englishman.

  14. #4501
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I don't go the barfine route. I have been living in Pattaya for 12 years and even the 4 years I was visiting before that I didn't do barfines. Girls I have fucked for 1000 all night have told me about guys paying them 10,000 for a few hours. Means shit. There are ugly girls in the same bar with pretty girls and they cost the same at the bar. What you pay has nothing to do with how the girl looks.
    I get it Mr. E that girls who find an over the top spender don't regard him as anything other than an opportunity to put some cash in the bank and perhaps develop into a high end sponsor. I get it that in a gogo the bar fine is the same no matter which girl you choose. I get it that there is no empirical evidence paying more gets you better service however being here over 20 years it has been my experience there is a definite correlation between price and looks. A simple illustration is the tiered pricing you find at higher end oilies or the rates better looking girls charge on escort sites. That said you seem to find your tricks online, something I have never cracked, perhaps it's different there.

  15. #4500

    Price discrepancies

    I am a little confused with all the back and forth regarding pricing.

    It is very important for me to never over pay as it is not good to mess up the ecosystem.

    Can someone either post or PM a real price scheme? I never been to Thailand and am planning a trip. Got a lot of good info but too much inconsistency in prices to feel comfortable going here yet.

    Thanks in advance.

    By the way. Colombia is doing good right now and prices are only slightly higher than pre covid if you are interested in drama free travel.

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