Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[Retiree1968]

Gonorrhea often cause pain in the epididymis? Bangkok is good to treat gonorrhea? Anyone already had gonorrhea or chlamydia? What about health insurance?

[Syzygies]

These are incredibly thin and they will fit most western dudes. I accidentally received their regular size and, ugh, way to tight for this otherwise averge-sized western dude. Sent them back to Japan for a refund.

Not that I was able to cum with them, nothing new there for me. On my last Pattaya trip I only had a couple to try and since Secret kept me sufficiently drained, I could not give them a fair test.

They are expensive but available on eBay.

These can be ordered from Shopee web site for 455 Baht (pack of 3) but web site is in Thai. I see these are Polyurethane, so I lose interest, due to lack of stretching ability and wrinkles. I already did not like Sagamis, but each to their own preference.

I see Mega Big Boys XL by Okamoto are supposed to be made of Sheerlon (whatever that is) and quoted as extra thin but no thickness measure is given. I suppose one just has to try and see if like them. I saw can order 10 for 680 Baht.

[Syzygies]

A few days ago I was with a hooker and she insisted on putting on the condom herself. She told me that she does not roll down the condom as it could slide towards the tip of the penis during sex. I allowed her to put the condom on me and she opened it wide an put it flush on the entire length of my shaft. During sex the condom did not slide at all. I have had the condom applied every now and then in that manner in the past but never made a mental note of the result. However, on many occasions in the past I have had to keep pulling the condom back to the base of the penis during sex. That did not happen on this occasion. Could it be that after having sex for over 40 years I have finally ascertained a way to avoid the condom sliding during sex? Time will tell.

Nothing can prevent sliding so easily I think. I use a similar technique to get it on, but still can slide.

If there were absolutely no air inside the condom slipping maybe be minimal because of the vacuum. Not easy to achieve zero air inside. The less the better. The technique for putting condom on certainly matters when it comes to keeping the air amount as low as possible.

If bottom rim of condom starts to pushed over some lube, then that lube promotes slippage too. So even without air, the base of condom can start sliding around a bit.

[FL Hawk]

These are incredibly thin and they will fit most western dudes. I accidentally received their regular size and, ugh, way to tight for this otherwise averge-sized western dude. Sent them back to Japan for a refund.

Not that I was able to cum with them, nothing new there for me. On my last Pattaya trip I only had a couple to try and since Secret kept me sufficiently drained, I could not give them a fair test.

They are expensive but available on eBay.

Just tried out one. Zero feeling. Because latex.

I had an Okamoto 002 polyurethane left. It refused to roll down properly. When I tried to put it right it snapped. Anyway anything that says 002 is unavailable now it seems. Deal breaker for me.

I'll try Amazon with hotel address. Need to be at hotel when it is scheduled to arrive.

[Travv]

There should be a review on Amazon on how to use poly Sagamis for larger guys. I am also unable to get the Sagami. 002 Large on unless I go through this procedure. Step one. Lubricate yourself with coconut oil. Oil does not affect poly Sagamis. Step 2. Unroll Sagami. Step 3, Pull the unrolled Sagami onto yourself, relying on the coconut oil to get it to slide on and fit. Step 4, Lubricate Sagami with more coconut oil. Done.

Just tried out one. Zero feeling. Because latex.

I had an Okamoto 002 polyurethane left. It refused to roll down properly. When I tried to put it right it snapped. Anyway anything that says 002 is unavailable now it seems. Deal breaker for me.

I'll try Amazon with hotel address. Need to be at hotel when it is scheduled to arrive.

[Turgid]

Just tried out one. Zero feeling. Because latex.

I had an Okamoto 002 polyurethane left. It refused to roll down properly. When I tried to put it right it snapped. Anyway anything that says 002 is unavailable now it seems. Deal breaker for me.

I'll try Amazon with hotel address. Need to be at hotel when it is scheduled to arrive.

A few days ago I was with a hooker and she insisted on putting on the condom herself. She told me that she does not roll down the condom as it could slide towards the tip of the penis during sex. I allowed her to put the condom on me and she opened it wide an put it flush on the entire length of my shaft. During sex the condom did not slide at all. I have had the condom applied every now and then in that manner in the past but never made a mental note of the result. However, on many occasions in the past I have had to keep pulling the condom back to the base of the penis during sex. That did not happen on this occasion. Could it be that after having sex for over 40 years I have finally ascertained a way to avoid the condom sliding during sex? Time will tell.

[XXL]

Just tried out one. Zero feeling. Because latex.

I had an Okamoto 002 polyurethane left. It refused to roll down properly. When I tried to put it right it snapped. Anyway anything that says 002 is unavailable now it seems. Deal breaker for me.

I'll try Amazon with hotel address. Need to be at hotel when it is scheduled to arrive.

[EihTooms]

Okamoto 003 are stretchable latex and readily available in 7 eleven, however they are made for Japanese. You really have to stretch them to get them on, and length does not reach the whole way. Would be nice if they sold a larger size.

I always put them on myself because I know the technique required. I am scared if the girl stuffs around trying to work out how to get it on, the dick will have gone down by that time. At least they don't slip off easily unless too much lube gets inside the condom. I used to use the large size Durex Comfort and sometimes still revert to those. Not that thick but still thicker than the 003's. Polyurethane condoms like Sagami never worked well for me because they don't really stretch (also makes it hard to get on) and I don't like the wrinkly quality.

It becomes easier just to have regular BB girls, and forget the condoms.

I am waiting for Okamoto 002 but in at larger width and length, rather than what seems like small size only. Condoms need to well hidden. The Mrs would know what they are for.

For those on the fence about going BB regularly for lack of enough sensation to make the sex worth it at all but are still worried about unwanted pregnancy, why not try using lamb skin condoms instead of latex?

I have tried Trojan NaturaLamb condoms recently and they seemed to allow more sensation than any others I've tried. No, I still did not finish wearing one in 3 separate attempts with three different girls. However, I felt that if I had abstained from sex for a week or two, was really super turned on by the girl, her pussy was perfectly snug and I was willing to risk rupturing just one vital internal organ rather than several in order to make it happen within a couple of hours working at it I might have been able to squeeze off an orgasm wearing one of those. In other words, they felt much better than any latex condom I have ever tried.

However, the big trade off for them feeling more "natural" is they do not protect against STDs. And they say so right on the packaging. Maybe that means this comment doesn't belong in this thread, except that the topic was condoms. They only help to prevent pregnancy. But they might assure a girl for whom there is no proof the man has gotten a vasectomy, which is always the case really, that she won't get pregnant. That is somewhat the reason I was willing to try them myself.

There are no lamb skin condoms sold anywhere in Thailand that I have found. Probably because they don't protect against STDs. I had to order mine on Amazon. Came to about $3.50 USD or about 105 THB per condom including shipping costs at today's exchange rate. I assume they are cheaper if you buy them over the counter in a country where they are sold.

[Syzygies]

It is infuriating to see condom technology remaining stuck in the 1920s. Any howsoever innovative condoms have been hard to get and beset by flaws like ridiculously inadequate lengths or girths. It's like a conspiracy was afoot to force men into unprotected sex.

Okamoto 003 are stretchable latex and readily available in 7 eleven, however they are made for Japanese. You really have to stretch them to get them on, and length does not reach the whole way. Would be nice if they sold a larger size.

I always put them on myself because I know the technique required. I am scared if the girl stuffs around trying to work out how to get it on, the dick will have gone down by that time. At least they don't slip off easily unless too much lube gets inside the condom. I used to use the large size Durex Comfort and sometimes still revert to those. Not that thick but still thicker than the 003's. Polyurethane condoms like Sagami never worked well for me because they don't really stretch (also makes it hard to get on) and I don't like the wrinkly quality.

It becomes easier just to have regular BB girls, and forget the condoms.

I am waiting for Okamoto 002 but in at larger width and length, rather than what seems like small size only. Condoms need to well hidden. The Mrs would know what they are for.

[XXL]

They were only available at Boots' and they were never plentiful. You would have to check several Boots pharmacies to muster maybe 4 or 5 pieces. Now for the past week I've tried in vain to find any in Pattaya. As usual the pharmacies could tell me nothing except the familiar "no hab". My suggestion they might want to order a load of them as I was prepared to buy in bulk only elicited a grin. A pharmacy placing orders? Ah-ah-ah, another crazy farang scheme!

With so many useless brands of condoms on the shelves it had to be this one that went missing.

It is infuriating to see condom technology remaining stuck in the 1920s. Any howsoever innovative condoms have been hard to get and beset by flaws like ridiculously inadequate lengths or girths. It's like a conspiracy was afoot to force men into unprotected sex.

[MongerForSex]

I caught syphilis in 2005. I get tested last week, RPR and EIA are negative but TPPA is still positive. The doctor says it will be positive for life. I always used condoms for oral, vaginal sex before catching syphilis. I stopped using condoms because I think it's ineffective, I stopped using condoms for oral sex. I bareback girls when she agrees. I never caught anything even herpes except for syphilis. I get tested every 3 months. I am still negative for syphilis and all other STDs are negative. I am sexually active.

Syphilis test is less accurate than hiv test. Maybe you never had syphilis.

[Syzygies]

That may very well be an ordinary piece of sponge crudely used to retard penetration. I think its quite difficult to detect the specially designed vaginal sponge, sold in pharmacies, through normal fingering as the sponge is made of soft material that feels like normal vaginal tissue. I think many working girls use them especially those who do bare back sex as they block the girl's cervix to keep sperm from getting into her uterus, and they continuously release spermicide. I'm not sure about their effectiveness in preventing the girl from getting STDs. No doubt many working girls who insist on CFS use them as well. Have you ever detected a vaginal sponge?

Ha ha. You really surprise me. I will have to go buy one, since I am very skeptical indeed that it will really feel like vagina tissue. I detect "luuk jiap" (literally means like fluffy baby chick) quite regularly in pussies. Some are really rough and some a bit smoother. If I can detect them, then they always obstruct the dick badly and make the fuck feel terrible for me, since I am not really short in the dick. As far as I know, there do not exist smooth ones feeling like a real pussy, but I will go find out.

So I do believe that some girls maybe using proper pharmacy items, and others maybe using something homemade that was cheaper.

I concede that I might not detect if something was 5 inches plus in there, but that is already past the uterus. So my fingers can always feel the uterus opening and if it was covered by anything. Bear in mind, very few girls have a vagina of over 5 inches in length before it get stretched by the sexual activity, unless they are abnormal, I think. I guess my longest middle finger reaches about 4. 5+ inches, past the uterus cervix usually at 4 inches or often less.

I do experience variation in the feel of vagina lining, with some girls extremely smooth and others a little more corregated (small undulations), but certainly feeling quite different to sponge like material.

Strangely some guys reckoned they never experienced girls with a sponge stuffed up there, meaning just blindly unaware, never sticking the fingers in deep at all, and possibly having short dicks too (Ha ha). I have experienced abrasive action of the sponge break a condom causing me to CIP as was not aware tip of condom was damaged (base of condom still in place), actually more than once but many years ago. It was not smooth enough by any means. It is quite unnatural thing to be there. In the modern day, I just can't fuck a girl with a sponge up there and have to get them to take it out. Some have denied it being there after I already discovered it (too late) but still were willing to surreptitiously take it out.

It is possible I have not detected such an obstruction for sure, if in very deep, and indeed extremely smooth such that dick did not feel anything was amiss, but I am doubtful. Sometimes I did not finger every girl deeply in the past if everything was going real smooth, and possibly if she was a regular. Tonight my Thermae girl pussy was not feeling good with dick in her pussy, so I certainly used digits to probe very thoroughly looking for anything strange, which I did not find. Her cervix was normal enough perhaps slightly descended.

Some girls never use a sponge in there, some only on their period (the major reason), and some use all the time. I am not really experienced with girls that allow BBFS using it with spermicide, however if it covered the cervix to prevent sperm entry that would mean it is in far too shallow and would likely be a severe obstruction. A dutch cap to prevent pregnancy is quite a different thing. I don't actually have any experience with any hookers at MPs allowing CIP but using a sponge. As far as I know, none of my regulars uses a sponge, and they don't like me to CIP either. If I finger, I can always feel the cervix opening clearly. (not covered).

I would rather have the nice feeling pussy but pull out to cum, instead of CIP. Sponges make the fuck feel so crappy. Dicks don't like abrasion.

[Turgid]

................I love putting fingers deep in girls pussies for a variety of reasons. One is to check for sponge retarding penetration............

That may very well be an ordinary piece of sponge crudely used to retard penetration. I think its quite difficult to detect the specially designed vaginal sponge, sold in pharmacies, through normal fingering as the sponge is made of soft material that feels like normal vaginal tissue. I think many working girls use them especially those who do bare back sex as they block the girl's cervix to keep sperm from getting into her uterus, and they continuously release spermicide. I'm not sure about their effectiveness in preventing the girl from getting STDs. No doubt many working girls who insist on CFS use them as well. Have you ever detected a vaginal sponge?

[BMoreDog69]

They only cover your dick, and depending on the condom, your dick, etc, they may not cover all of your dick that well.

To really prevent an STD transfer, and they are all a little different, you need to prevent most of the contact we're interested in. For example, herpes is a good example of an STD that you can get from non-penetrative sexual contact. It could be oral, or maybe some stripper / camel-toe slide, before suiting up for the main event.

For those concerned, while a bit fussy and messy, and more expensive, female condoms give a bareback like sensation, and actually do a better job of preventing genital contact during sex.

[Syzygies]

I always used condoms for oral, vaginal sex before catching syphilis.

So what is the theory for how it might be caught despite using condoms? Is there one? Surely not by kissing?

No condom slip off?

I have thought that finger in pussy and then touching other parts could be faint risk even if low probability. However I would love to hear any more plausible alternatives, for most likely ways the bacteria could be passed.

I love putting fingers deep in girls pussies for a variety of reasons. One is to check for sponge retarding penetration, another is to feel how her uterus is placed and will it likely cause problems if obtrudes too much (she has to have one unless LB or hysterectomy), finally fingers in the girl while tongue kissing helps get up real fast.

Years ago I caught Trachoma in the eye.

Here is a web site quote:

"Chlamydia can be spread during vaginal, anal, or oral sex, and can be passed from an infected mother to her baby during childbirth. The eye infections may also be spread by personal contact, flies, and contaminated towels in areas with poor sanitation. Chlamydia trachomatis only occurs in humans. ".

So my theory was I caught this from a hooker by fingers in her pussy. Doctor did not say anything like that but he called it Chlamydia. However it seems there are several types:

"Trachoma is caused by Chlamydia Trachomatis, serotypes (serovars) A, be, and see" After Monger for sex wrote a bit vaguely, I read that the Sexual Chlamydia are most commonly serotypes E and F and some others but not the same one as in the eye infection. So its the same bacteria, well actually not quite the same. There are several strains of HIV also with differing risk factors. Does not get much publicity.

Possible to be infected by more than one type of Chlamydia concurrently too. So the idea of catching it from the pussy becomes unlikely. Contaminated towel becomes more likely. However fingers rubbing on the eye is still highly likely to have put it in the eye I think.

Are condoms really ineffective? I really doubt that, but depends on the thing being transmitted and how easy that is. Still I am not averse to BBFS with selected girls that I think maybe less risky somehow (perhaps getting tested). Perhaps not choosing a girl that barebacks many guys every day, indiscriminately. Std rates are higher for hookers in Bangkok than in the country I read, particularly HIV. Hopefully most hookers with HIV are treating it with anti-retrovirals (90%) to reduce chances to pass on. I have no clue if they would insist on condoms or not. At least most hookers with it, will know they have it these days.