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  1. #10932

    Eight most immutable Nevers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brauninc  [View Original Post]
    Just some interesting notes regarding Rnt's.
    It sure add's up in Rnt's. But the thrill of the chase is obviously very exciting still in these places.
    Brownie, these are all great points and thanks, they remind us of loss-prevention when doing these places. Here are a few of mine.

    1. Never book 'sight-unseen' Often we might be tempted to accept a phone booking where she sounds nice or the owners recommendation, she's young she's beautiful she's sexy she's very popular, it's all bullshit to screw a booking from you. Often, you get there, they're not cracked out what they say and the chemistry is simply not there, then you're up against a hard rock.

    2. Never pay up-front for extras. Always settlement on a happy completion. So many will tell you pay first as standard practice, well it ain't. You don't pay for meals up-front or do you? Unless they know you 50% will leave the tip to you the other 50% will ask to cough-up. They claim the last guy didn't pay and this may partially be true but there's always two sides to every story, it's quite likely her service was well below expectation so the customer defaulted. So this sounds alarm bells. AVOID!

    3. Never fail duty of care to tell her or the mamasan that the massage was crap or that she is over charging, I do, and surprisingly, I usually get a special deal the next time but not always.

    4. Never fail to have a strategy in place at front of house to enable you to politely back away from a potential booking you don't want. I'm fussy and I'm sure most of you are as well, so don't throw 70 $ away lightly. I have shops dialed in with names, I might ring first and ask who's working and with a bit of luck they might say there's new girl Tracy but I ain't going sight-unseen. I'll do a walk-in and ask for a girl on my phone who I know isn't working but get introduced to new girl Tracy, if however, she's not up to standard or the chemistry isn't there I'll tell them thank you but I'll come back when my regular is on which is a dummy call but I can walk away without losing face or leaving the girl uncomfortable. Other times, I might just say sorry I want a younger masseuse or I don't do Thai massage it's too strong and walk.

    5. Never be deceived by their monthly cycles. Some pack tissue downstairs without a period in the hope they have a device to hedge themselves in favour of coming in high and then offering only semi-nude for the same price but no-touch, they are tricksters be warned.

    6. Never fail to check, the check-in time when she actually comes in (and say 2. 40 OK) and not their reception booking time, sometimes quite different; In your time, they go to the toilet eat a little something stuff a napkin down their undies, make a call and so on.

    7. Never fail to complete your negotiations within the first 20 minutes. I always book an 1 HR (never a half HR HJ) with 30 min on the back (underpants on) and 30 front. My strategy is this; about 65% will ask for underpants off in the first minute or so if they don't I request it and almost will oblige, if by chance they refuse (the odd one) I know I'm on to a loser. At roughly 20 min in she's usually covered most parts and get a feel where things might be going, if the massage is crap and no chemistry and talking big dollars for nothing I apply the provisions of clause 10 of the Rub and Tug Act to terminate the massage within 30 min and put your stitches on and demand 20 $ back. On the other hand, if the massage is good but don't want extras with her the choice remains yours to continue, if however, it turns sour and she then gives you a crap massage pack and go and get your 20 $ back. This way you protect yourself both ways.

    8. Never fail to caution her and cut the massage short if she makes or receives calls or even goes out to receive customers, this pisses me right off.

    BTW, there are still great opportunities out there and I love the thrill of chase.

    Happy Hunting and punting.

    Lotus.

  2. #10931
    Quote Originally Posted by Brauninc  [View Original Post]
    It sure add's up in Rnt's. But the thrill of the chase is obviously very exciting still in these places.
    I was in Melbourne recently and went to a well organised massage and relaxation centre in the CBD, Little Burke Street I think. 2nd floor via lift or stairs. I was straight to the point and agreed on $100 tip for naked body slide. No pretend mediocre massage. She's just lying on the table with me and we doing things for the hour. No sex as such.

  3. #10930

    Rnt's.

    Just some interesting notes regarding Rnt's.

    Periods- you are presented with a girl in Stiletto's a short skirt and you agree to book her. She offers a HJ and you ask if its nude and she says period. You may accept a topless or clothed, but you are disappointed and feel you should go back the following week when she is clean. This means you have to spend more money than planned. The period stuff does not happen in a Brothel.

    Bartering- You pay you base fee for the massage, and you both cannot agree on the price of extra's- and you tell her to just continue doing a straight massage. Most guys are not there just for the massage, so you have wasted money in this instance. Of course you may return to see this girl again, with a new plan of attack, but that may end in more arguments re price.

    Too much for extra's- The girl asks too much for a nude HJ, so you agree that she only does a topless on this occasion. But you really wanted to see the bottom half, so you go back the following week, and ask if she will keep her top half on while giving you a naked bottom half HJ. This means you have spent 2 base fee's plus the extra's for the 2 visits.

    BJ and FS- In todays age, almost impossible to get these services from a hot youngster in a modern rnt- But this will require a lot of bartering, and I would assume many many sessions with the girl gaining her trust etc, so if you are planning these services, you may have to have 5-10 sessions with the girl before you then pay way over a standard brothel price.

    A private session- These girls that work in modern rnt's, are so fresh downstairs its not funny. Fresh as in not overly worked. The thought of asking one of these massage ladies to have a private session would be an ultimate turn on. Some of these girls would not have had intercourse in months. You may have 20 sessions with a massage girl, building a rapport, before you ask them if they would entertain the idea of letting you devour them privately. Could you imagine the asking price.

    It sure add's up in Rnt's. But the thrill of the chase is obviously very exciting still in these places.

  4. #10929
    Quote Originally Posted by Shazzam  [View Original Post]
    I've had zero luck in Melbourne using Wechat when sending messages to cute looking girls. Half I think are legit students who probably don't speak English that well and are shy if a Westerner sends them a message. And the others are massage joints or total scammers and a waste of time.
    A good looking girl on WeChat will get hundreds of hits a day. Some will get thousands of hits a week. The young girls are actually looking for a genuine romance with the possibility of a permanent resident visa attached. They are fine with dating good looking western men their age. I would say 99% of their hits get deleted immediately. If you are over 30, there's no point in even trying to connect.

    The older MILFs are lonely and looking for sex and short term flings. This is excitement they can't get back in China. I think this might be the best route if zero English, saggy tits and hairy pussies don't bother you.

  5. #10928
    Quote Originally Posted by AussieGaigin  [View Original Post]
    I use a fake name, but a natural picture of myself. I want to attract older women, so I am not bothered that 20 year olds do not contact me (other than offering "services"). I have met several rich widows / divorcee tourists looking for some company while visiting Sydney; they seem to prefer mature men. They invariably pay for the date, and it is surprising how quickly they become affectionate (holding hands, cuddling, kissing in public). They have little or no English skills, so conversations are via WeChat or Google translate. Sex is freely offered on the first or second meeting. I take a few years off my age, but none has ever queried this..
    This is an intriguing post. To of my wechat wins have been 50 year old divorced Chinese ladies. One lives in Australia, one from Shanghai. I think Australia (or any overseas holiday) is seen as a time to try something a bit different. Maybe there is a strategy to use location feature around tourist hotels. In my case, they both were in Australia to visit their university kids.

    Interestingly, one of those ladies will be heading to stay in Melbourne July. September of this year, so maybe look out for her on wechat. I still chat her there but for now I'm a long way away.

    PL.

  6. #10927
    Quote Originally Posted by AussieGaigin  [View Original Post]
    I use a fake name, but a natural picture of myself. I want to attract older women, so I am not bothered that 20 year olds do not contact me (other than offering "services"). I have met several rich widows / divorcee tourists looking for some company while visiting Sydney; they seem to prefer mature men. They invariably pay for the date, and it is surprising how quickly they become affectionate (holding hands, cuddling, kissing in public). They have little or no English skills, so conversations are via WeChat or Google translate. Sex is freely offered on the first or second meeting. I take a few years off my age, but none has ever queried this.

    I am not worried that the Chinese Government has access to my phone number; I doubt that they are going to come chasing me for fucking some of their women.
    Wechat is great if you work with Chinese factories. I do and the factory people find it way easier and free compared to mobile phones and emails.

    I've had zero luck in Melbourne using Wechat when sending messages to cute looking girls. Half I think are legit students who probably don't speak English that well and are shy if a Westerner sends them a message. And the others are massage joints or total scammers and a waste of time.

    Wechat is awesome in Asia. Not hard to start conversations in China, Philippines, Hong Kong, Singapore, Vietnam, etc but you still have to quickly work out the working girls from the legit girls and watch out for ladyboys advertising as girls, LOL.

  7. #10926

    New shop.

    Tried A relatively new shop today that I suggest is worth bypassing.

    Situated in Glenhuntly Rd near the corner of Jasper next to Subway.

    Attractive Japanese girl ok massage, but wouldn't budge on $50 for a fully clothed HJ.

    That's the figure I just can't come to terms with when one considers you can go to a fully licensed premises for an extra $10 or $20 not that they are my scene but paying $100 in total for a 30 minute massage with a handy is just over the top in my view and I won't be returning.

    Cheers,

    Pedro.

  8. #10925
    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    WeChat is controlled by the Chinese government. It's best to use a fake name and fake profile picture, although they will still have your phone number. More chance of getting a response if you use a photo of a young, good looking white guy. Chinese are racist, ageist and sexist.
    I use a fake name, but a natural picture of myself. I want to attract older women, so I am not bothered that 20 year olds do not contact me (other than offering "services"). I have met several rich widows / divorcee tourists looking for some company while visiting Sydney; they seem to prefer mature men. They invariably pay for the date, and it is surprising how quickly they become affectionate (holding hands, cuddling, kissing in public). They have little or no English skills, so conversations are via WeChat or Google translate. Sex is freely offered on the first or second meeting. I take a few years off my age, but none has ever queried this.

    I am not worried that the Chinese Government has access to my phone number; I doubt that they are going to come chasing me for fucking some of their women.

  9. #10924
    Quote Originally Posted by GenuineLotus  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys, I see no point in posting this in the Sapporo or Japan ISG, insofar that I returned from a 16-day workshop in Hokkaido this wk. The workshop was fully catered for with good hotels restaurants and so on, all the same, I took 185,000 why that's about 1800 Aussie thinking this would give me a punt-A-day, how wrong was I. Unlike Kyoto and Tokyo where in 2015 I had great massage experiences usually located on upper floors of commercial buildings around the CBD. Although Hokkaido is beautiful and welcoming it offered hardly a trace of massage street-life of extras. The best I could do was an arranged hotel reception underpants-on massage in my room by a 30 ish Japanese lady who kept strictly to the book with no wandering-hands back or front. The next day, I thought I'the book her again and break her-in, wrong was I again, instead a 50 to 60 YO auntie walked in with what looked like a tool-kit in her hand, presumably, her massage oil and cleaning cloth, I had a brief encounter with her at the door to find she only did the back. I felt perfectly OK to show her back to the front door and complained to reception sending me an auntie who did the back only; I said the hotel brochures show younger girls and added, most guys want quality younger women and said that's how it is sorry but no-go!
    Nice report Lotus. I've encountered the same in Japan. The best chance of any action is the Soaplands in the big cities. Most places are off limits to foreigners. The Japanese (and Koreans) don't like foreigners contaminating THEIR women, so only a few places, like soaplands will allow foreigners. The blow job bars where young girls blow guys usually won't allow foreigners. The other issue is that vaginal intercourse with a prostitute is illegal in Japan, so it's always not going to be offered. Massage plus HJ in the upstairs shops costs the same as Melbourne. About $100.

  10. #10923
    Quote Originally Posted by TryHardAussie  [View Original Post]

    Maybe nasty old white guys they don't like but I have been dealing with Chinese for over 30 years and what they respect is Age, Wisdom, Family and Knowledge.
    The only thing Chinese respect is money.

    Quote Originally Posted by TryHardAussie  [View Original Post]
    As to your second point it appears YOU want to do a bait and switch. That is just lame.
    The Chinese have been tricking us punters with bait and switch since the internet was invented. So playing it back is fine. These are hookers and pimps we are talking about, so normal rules of ethical business don't apply. I have found they don't really care. The only thing Chinese care about is money.

    Geez, you make it sound like I'm about to shoot Bambi.

  11. #10922
    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    WeChat is controlled by the Chinese government. It's best to use a fake name and fake profile picture, although they will still have your phone number. More chance of getting a response if you use a photo of a young, good looking white guy. Chinese are racist, ageist and sexist.
    With respect Engine Driver this is CRAP.

    My profile shows an old white fat guy with a caring nature, as shown by family pics etc.

    I hit rate on wechat is around 70% responses of all contacts and almost every massage girl responds.

    Maybe nasty old white guys they don't like but I have been dealing with Chinese for over 30 years and what they respect is Age, Wisdom, Family and Knowledge.

    Many may prefer keeping in there own groups in there private lives for a number of reasons such as language etc so if you call that racist then that's your problem, I bet when you travel if you travel overseas you prefer speaking English and eating meat and 3 veg.

    As to your second point it appears YOU want to do a bait and switch. That is just lame.

    Finally your first point is a mute point when we know ALL internet chat use etc is monitored by all governments.

  12. #10921
    Quote Originally Posted by AussieGaigin  [View Original Post]
    Pretty hard to get much out of WeChat unless you can read Chinese. Translate facility is limited. Best just to keep the app open all the time and hope girls will contact you. Make you profile "interesting".
    WeChat is controlled by the Chinese government. It's best to use a fake name and fake profile picture, although they will still have your phone number. More chance of getting a response if you use a photo of a young, good looking white guy. Chinese are racist, ageist and sexist.

  13. #10920

    Happy hands.

    I have been a few times.

    Hit and miss with girls in terms of looks.

    But services are all available.

  14. #10919
    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang1972  [View Original Post]
    I have downloaded wechat but how do you find the rnt and f / s massage places, I have gone to discover but I'm not sure what I else I should be doing any help or tips appreciated.
    Pretty hard to get much out of WeChat unless you can read Chinese. Translate facility is limited. Best just to keep the app open all the time and hope girls will contact you. Make you profile "interesting".

  15. #10918
    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang1972  [View Original Post]
    I have downloaded wechat but how do you find the rnt and f / s massage places, I have gone to discover but I'm not sure what I else I should be doing any help or tips appreciated.
    Some girls advertise massage, but you have to sus out the one's who look like they do and say Hello, especially one's who have phone numbers, and also while your on line they will find you.

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