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  1. #5440

    Ha, Ha, Ha

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    He also continues to refer to organized retail theft, as in the smash-and-grab robberies taking place in big cities around the country, as "looting" in California. They are not "looting" in the legal sense in California:

    https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/463/

    Those smash-and-grab robberies have nothing to do with a state of emergency. They are organized retail theft crimes taking place in broad daylight in many cases and having nothing to do with otherwise ordinary law-abiding citizens seizing upon the opportunity to steal goods during a state of emergency.

    And, BTW, Tough On Crime Democratic California Governor Gavin Newsom passed a law allowing prosecutors to charge it as a felony regardless of the dollar amount, as is also stated in your link:
    Ha, Ha, Ha. That is funny! Tough on crime Gov Newsome. That is the best joke I have heard in a long time. If he wants a so tough on crime how come this is happening every day? Walgreens is losing stores because Newsome is tough on crime. This is a joke but the looting is a serious problem. You can't spin it different.

  2. #5439

    Bfd

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    It is a crime but the police don't handle any crime in CA under $1000 and they are not arrested or charged with a crime. If it is over $1000 and they are charged they are released immediately under CA bail laws. So in fact it is a crime that goes unpunished therefore continuing daily. Try telling the stores that are getting robbed daily that people are being arrested and are in jail. Camera footage shows same groups robbing same stores daily. I am sure you support this.
    So what you're saying is that you would prefer that California Law Enforcement agencies aggressively pursue sub-$950 shoplifting crimes while letting murder, rape, sexual abuse, bank robbery and other major crimes go unpunished. Because that's what you'll get. All Law Enforcement agencies have always had a limited amount of manpower to pursue crime. You would rather that they pursue minor crimes while letting dangerous crimes go unpunished.

  3. #5438

    A corrected lie is still a lie

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    It is a crime but the police don't handle any crime in CA under $1000 and they are not arrested or charged with a crime. If it is over $1000 and they are charged they are released immediately under CA bail laws.
    Well, time to stand corrected again. Because your revised claim is still a chicanery.

    Proposition 47 did not end prosecution of thefts under $950 in California.

    CLAIM: Under Proposition 47 in California thefts under $950 will not be prosecuted.

    AP ASSESSMENT: False. Proposition 47 was passed in California in 2014 and reclassified felony theft offenses as misdemeanors. It did not allow shoplifting and petty theft to go unprosecuted.

    THE FACTS: The false claim about the proposition circulated on social media with a video showing two individuals walking out of a T.J. Maxx in Granada Hills, California, with duffle bags filled with merchandise and their arms filled with clothing on hangers. No one attempted to stop the pair as they walked out of the store and through the parking lot.

    The scene was captured on video by another person in the store and circulated widely on news media.

    Adam Carolla, a comedian who hosts a podcast, posted the video to Facebook along with a false comment about Proposition 47.

    Thanks to Prop 47 thefts under $950 will not be prosecuted, Carolla commented on the post. So cops will not bother showing up. Just a reminder that you get what you voted for, California!

    But the post is incorrect. The 2014 proposition modified, but did not eliminate, sentencing for many nonviolent property and drug crimes.

    According to Alex Bastian, special advisor to Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascn who co-authored Prop 47, most shoplifting was already prosecuted as a misdemeanor anyway.

    What Prop 47 did is increase the dollar amount by which theft can be prosecuted as a felony from $400 to $950 to adjust for inflation and cost of living, Bastian said. But most shoplifting cases are under $400 dollars to begin with, so before Prop 47 and after Prop 47, there isnt any difference.

    Proposition 47 was enacted to comply with a 2011 California Supreme Court order, which upheld that Californias overcrowded prisons violated incarcerated individuals Eighth Amendment rights against cruel and unusual punishment.

    In 2011, our prisons were bursting at the seams, and California was ranked either first or second behind Texas as having the highest per capita incarceration rate of any state in the country, Kubrin said. It was so bad that the Supreme Court stepped in and told us we needed to reduce our prison population by 33,000 individuals.

    So the goal of Prop 47 was to limit our prison population, to reduce the number of people that we send to state prisons, said Kubrin. Prop 47 has achieved that goal while not causing crime rates to go up.
    So are you lying are ill-informed? Because it's either one or another, no third choice here.

    https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-160551360299

  4. #5437

    Chris Christie Interview

    Here he at length speaks out against popular Republican lies and conspiracy theories.

    https://www.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/a...b-ade70152540b

  5. #5436
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    You keep lying.

    You have brought up the following falsehood several times "It is not a crime to steal under $1000 in a store". This is pure, unadulterated BS. Try reading the following because there aren't many bigly words in it so you should be able to understand. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-160551360299.
    He also continues to refer to organized retail theft, as in the smash-and-grab robberies taking place in big cities around the country, as "looting" in California. They are not "looting" in the legal sense in California:

    https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/463/

    Penal Code 463 PC - California's "looting" laws. In Penal Code 463 PC, California law defines the crime of looting as taking advantage of a state of emergency to commit burglary, grand theft or petty theft. Looting can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony and is punishable by up to 3 years in jail.
    Those smash-and-grab robberies have nothing to do with a state of emergency. They are organized retail theft crimes taking place in broad daylight in many cases and having nothing to do with otherwise ordinary law-abiding citizens seizing upon the opportunity to steal goods during a state of emergency.

    And, BTW, Tough On Crime Democratic California Governor Gavin Newsom passed a law allowing prosecutors to charge it as a felony regardless of the dollar amount, as is also stated in your link:

    Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a law Wednesday aimed at curbing organized retail theft, according to Associated Press reporting. The law allows prosecutors to seek to charge the offense as either a misdemeanor or a felony.

  6. #5435
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    It was different 8 years ago. 8 years ago democrats were not defunding the police. 8 years ago VP Harris was prosecuting criminals not bailing them out of jail. 8 years ago the democrat party on California were democrats not socialists. 8 years ago schools weren't teaching critical race theory. By the way what were the Republican policies that caused the Great Republican crash that you keep talking about that wiped out millions of jobs. I can't seem to find that in past history. What year was that?
    [Deleted by Admin] There was no difference between now and 8 years ago other than the massive destruction of most things Trump touched.

    You think it is just a wild coincidence that every major economic downturn of the past 100 years began on a Repub so-called potus' watch? It is different policies all the time. In Trump's case it was defunding the CDC and pulling out every one of their Pandemic Prevention and Response Teams from those Chinese labs in 2018 against all expert advice not to do something so dangerous, foolish and unnecessary. Then when the experts' warnings did indeed come to fruition in late 2019/ early 2020, he lied to the world about his colossal blunder result being a "Democrat Party HOAX! We've got this under control! There will be NO coronavirus in the Fall (of 2020). " Then he spent a year telling the world "It will go away without a vaccine!

    Result? The huge economic Crash, massive USA job losses by the millions and, yep, the inevitable inflation due to his cowardice and lies destroying supply chains all around the world for years afterwards.

    For Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon / Ford, Reagan, Bush1 and Bush2, their huge or multiple Recessions were due to other new and unprecedented methods. But more often than not, as it was with Trump's Economic Disaster, it came down to them either doing nothing when the time and the Dems were begging them to do this or that or finally doing the exact wrong thing in response to a normal otherwise manageable economic cycle: as in being consistently mistaken that cutting taxes disproportionately for top income margins at the expense of all the other margins will create some magical Supply-Side / Trickle-Down economic expansion and jobs creation that NEVER has happened in the history of America and instead does exactly what any intelligent person would predict; it makes the super wealthy even wealthier and everyone else poorer.

  7. #5434

    I stand corrected

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    You keep lying.

    You have brought up the following falsehood several times "It is not a crime to steal under $1000 in a store". This is pure, unadulterated BS. Try reading the following because there aren't many bigly words in it so you should be able to understand. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-160551360299.
    It is a crime but the police don't handle any crime in CA under $1000 and they are not arrested or charged with a crime. If it is over $1000 and they are charged they are released immediately under CA bail laws. So in fact it is a crime that goes unpunished therefore continuing daily. Try telling the stores that are getting robbed daily that people are being arrested and are in jail. Camera footage shows same groups robbing same stores daily. I am sure you support this.

  8. #5433

    Why do you keep doing this?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    I live in California. Every day on our news we have looters robbing stores. 10 to 90 black looters hitting California stores every day. San Francisco and LA the worst. Walgreens has closed several stores in San Fran because they are getting robbed daily. Stores have limited hours because they are getting robbed every night. It is not a crime to steal under $1000 in a store and no police will come so 20 people steal $900 each. Maybe CNN does not report this but it is on our local news daily. Murders are up 30% to 100% in our major cities in 2021. Our government both local and federal with defunding the police has made California and the USA less safe. Especially in democrat run states. The newly elected black mayor of New York City has promised to increase the police force and to start decreasing crime and locking criminals up. BLM leader has promised bloodshed and destruction if he gets tough on crime. Democrats will keep pulling up distorted statistics and say there is no crime problem. I live here. I see it every day. Obviously you do not live in a democrat state or even in the USA or you would be a lot smarter.
    You keep lying.

    You have brought up the following falsehood several times "It is not a crime to steal under $1000 in a store". This is pure, unadulterated BS. Try reading the following because there aren't many bigly words in it so you should be able to understand. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-160551360299.

  9. #5432

    8 years ago

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Yep, that's the favorite old Repub anti-California chestnut!

    "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded!

    LOL.

    I lived in California for decades until about 8 years ago. I still have dozens of happy and satisfied friends living in the LOS Angeles area, watching their property values increase significantly annually, their salaries increase, their retirement investments improve substantially, their kids grow and thrive in good schools, active year round in great weather.

    Neither I nor any of them ever considered moving out of California because of the junk and problems you apparently found to wallow in and harp on for a single moment. The shittiest times I ever had anywhere in the USA were when Repubs were in the White House having it their way, which meant a Great Repub Crash, Recession and Millions of Jobs wiped out all across the country.
    It was different 8 years ago. 8 years ago democrats were not defunding the police. 8 years ago VP Harris was prosecuting criminals not bailing them out of jail. 8 years ago the democrat party on California were democrats not socialists. 8 years ago schools weren't teaching critical race theory. By the way what were the Republican policies that caused the Great Republican crash that you keep talking about that wiped out millions of jobs. I can't seem to find that in past history. What year was that?

  10. #5431
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Yep, that's the favorite old Repub anti-California chestnut!

    "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded!

    LOL.

    I lived in California for decades until about 8 years ago. I still have dozens of happy and satisfied friends living in the LOS Angeles area, watching their property values increase significantly annually, their salaries increase, their retirement investments improve substantially, their kids grow and thrive in good schools, active year round in great weather.

    when the Neither I nor any of them ever considered moving out of California because of the junk and problems you apparently found to wallow in and harp on for a single moment. The shittiest times I ever had anywhere in the USA were when Repubs were in the White House having it their way, which meant a Great Repub Crash, Recession and Millions of Jobs wiped out all across the country.
    I have lived in California all my life (more than 60 years).

    As a homeowner for over 35 years I have greatly enjoyed the boom times when the democrats ran things in Washington.

    As well as suffering through the downturns that gloomy republican administrations in the bad times delivered.

    Since Joe Biden took office my home value has soared this year.

  11. #5430
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    Obviously you don't live in California. California crime is totally out of control. The smart people that can afford to leave the do so.

    The democrat party caters to the people that vote for them. Criminals and illegals make up a big amount of them. For people that own a house property has increased but taxes in the state have gone up. If you are a renter then you are paying higher rent than most other states. Over 50% of people do not own property and pay high rent and high taxes along with the highest gas prices in the USA. The democrats have lied for decades to get control in CA. They will promise the world to their voters who are welfare cases, homeless, criminals and illegals. If that isn't enough they control the voting booths so they easily can cheat. That is why California is screwed. You don't live here. You don't pay taxes here. You don't buy gas and groceries here. You know nothing!!
    Yep, that's the favorite old Repub anti-California chestnut!

    "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded!

    LOL.

    I lived in California for decades until about 8 years ago. I still have dozens of happy and satisfied friends living in the LOS Angeles area, watching their property values increase significantly annually, their salaries increase, their retirement investments improve substantially, their kids grow and thrive in good schools, active year round in great weather.

    Neither I nor any of them ever considered moving out of California because of the junk and problems you apparently found to wallow in and harp on for a single moment. The shittiest times I ever had anywhere in the USA were when Repubs were in the White House having it their way, which meant a Great Repub Crash, Recession and Millions of Jobs wiped out all across the country.

  12. #5429

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    Be be thankful you live in a land where you are informed by an impartial media that has your best interests in mind.

  13. #5428

    Obviously you don't live in California

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, longtime hardline Repubs have been licking their chops anxious to get at and lock in California's 55 Electoral College awards since forever. They've tried everything; splitting the state in half, false claims about truck loads of Mexicans brought in to vote, lies about the crime rates, lies about nobody wanting to live there anymore, lies, lies, lies.

    California is the biggest EC Prize.

    The "I was a Democrat but Democrats destroyed California!" is on old chestnut favorite. Meanwhile, my property values and rental property rates there continue to skyrocket. Remember Yogi Berra's lament about a previously frequented restaurant?

    "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded!

    LOL. That's the crap they're trying to convince everyone about California.

    See, if longtime hardline Repubs can lock in those 55 California Electoral College awards, they won't have to work so hard to cheat everywhere else in order to "win"" elections despite their Party's consistently atrocious governance results vs that of Dems like Biden, Newsom et al.
    Obviously you don't live in California. California crime is totally out of control. The smart people that can afford to leave the do so.

    The democrat party caters to the people that vote for them. Criminals and illegals make up a big amount of them. For people that own a house property has increased but taxes in the state have gone up. If you are a renter then you are paying higher rent than most other states. Over 50% of people do not own property and pay high rent and high taxes along with the highest gas prices in the USA. The democrats have lied for decades to get control in CA. They will promise the world to their voters who are welfare cases, homeless, criminals and illegals. If that isn't enough they control the voting booths so they easily can cheat. That is why California is screwed. You don't live here. You don't pay taxes here. You don't buy gas and groceries here. You know nothing!!

  14. #5427

    Is George anti black?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Maybe that's why he's so pro abortion and pro defund the policia?

  15. #5426
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Really?

    I'm seeing California on the 17th place in violent crimes.

    After Texas, after Alabama, after Oklahoma, waaaaaaaaaaaaay after Louisiana and Alaska and most other red states in the Union.

    You wouldn't be knowingly misleading people here, would you?

    I mean, being a "former Democrat" and such?

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...the-us-states/
    Yeah, longtime hardline Repubs have been licking their chops anxious to get at and lock in California's 55 Electoral College awards since forever. They've tried everything; splitting the state in half, false claims about truck loads of Mexicans brought in to vote, lies about the crime rates, lies about nobody wanting to live there anymore, lies, lies, lies.

    California is the biggest EC Prize.

    The "I was a Democrat but Democrats destroyed California!" is on old chestnut favorite. Meanwhile, my property values and rental property rates there continue to skyrocket. Remember Yogi Berra's lament about a previously frequented restaurant?

    "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded!

    LOL. That's the crap they're trying to convince everyone about California.

    See, if longtime hardline Repubs can lock in those 55 California Electoral College awards, they won't have to work so hard to cheat everywhere else in order to "win"" elections despite their Party's consistently atrocious governance results vs that of Dems like Biden, Newsom et al.

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