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  1. #13107
    LaBambaBoy ,

    Very eloquent summary. So wistful. You brought to life what we all feel after our return to our regular life after days or in your case weeks in the Disney land for adults. I mope and get depressed for weeks after my return, and waiting for my next trip. I hope you will get your own return trip soon, and faster than you expected.

    I doubt that the local German monger will ever feel what we do. Even the French, Dutch, Belgian, Italian and even English flying mongers will not have this feeling that you so nicely articulated. Every visit to FKK land is to be cherished and none to be taken for granted.

    Your comments about Romania are humorous but accurate. I too feel a connection with that country, that prior to my first FKK trip I had never felt before. I'm not quite sure if I will root for Romanian soccer team to beat USA in the World Cup although our standards have fallen so bad that it is a moot point. But nearly half the girls I have fucked in my life now have been Romies. That connection can be never be erased.

  2. #13106
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Great summary by LaBamba below. It should be read by any firsttimer to the Germany FKK Club scene.

    Here is another great summary / introduction by Pessimist: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2323319 taken from the Mainhattan thread (you can read his discussions with KK and others in that thread).

    In particular I liked his intro:

    If I may add something:

    Which club is REALLY the best? In addition to knowing your own priorities and preferences, to really know this you need to go and visit each club multiple times. The selection of girls is more volatile than reports on ISG are able to disclose. Don't judge (or praise) a place to harsh after only one visit. Any firsttimer to a club will find that there is change in lineup and ambience during the day (daytime / evening / night). Each gent must find his favourite time to visit. Obviously, there is also a huge difference in lineup and ambience from the hectic weekends (Friday / Saturday night) to the girls' off days (usually Monday and Tuesday). Some like the buzz and party mood of a weekend, others will prefer the relaxing weekdays..
    Thanks for the kind words, and I totally agree with you. I had some good conversations here and there with local German dudes, full of info.

  3. #13105
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Here is another great summary / introduction by Pessimist: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2323319 taken from the Mainhattan thread (you can read his discussions with KK and others in that thread).
    During a calendar year possibly 300 girls have visited the club. So, how much is a report reliable from one visit only? Things change.

    Another tip: Your local German guy in the club is your best friend. Don't ever forget this. If you know your priorities / preferences, he will suggest good clubs and potential girls for you. If you see someone you like in the club but wonders about performance, your local guy will often know more than most reports on ISG.
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    Good points Shark16 and the Mainhatten discussion does have some good points in it. A report from one visit is always welcome but as you say how reliable is that report as things change not just day to day but sometimes during the day. The calendar year thing is very correct and I notice this as I build up my days. If you plant your tail in one club (and by no means am I saying do not visit many as Pessimist suggested) until you find one or two that stick enough girls will roll thru. I've sampled girls from so many different places just in Mainhatten (although girls lie about past clubs many I did recognize from Sharks visits or Palace etc) and a few Atlanta girls even rolled thru Mainhatten which gave me an idea what to expect there.

    I will also add to your comment about the local German guys being your friend, add in the weekend warriors from Belgium, Austria and even Italy that come in. Their knowledge and experiences may not be as extensive as the Germans (in some cases they are, or more) but either way just backing up your point the Euro guys who commute in have much better pointers than many on ISG who simply play follow the leader, print out names other guys saw etc. I regret waiting too long to see the NRW RTC Clubs and the Hanau Clubs but I can also say if I didn't do it with the locals the services I got especially in the BC would have been less. Yes, Germans for 50 Euros get ' Wedding Nights + " ; and sometimes their guests do too.

    At F39 there was one girl I really wanted and two American guys told me she sucked but I didn't care as I wanted her. She didn't speak any English (or Spanish) was older and looked like she had been thru the ringer and right up my alley. She was well aware of one of the guys I was with being a regular and I told him maybe I would ask about finishes she allows and this guy told me the exact opposite of what the ISG tells you which is never to ask on the couch as your odds of getting shot down and having to use a gummi actually increase especially if she is a YMMV / on the fence type but he did add he would ask her to seal the deal as she knows him and has solicited him many times. He tells me under no circumstances do you ask on the couch as if she doesn't AO to completion she may tell the other girls, you might spook her and it is best to simply go to the room and pay the 30 e and bail if not what you wanted. 30 e is chicken feed and only you and the girl will know what happened, no ' he asked me for CIP' etc. Turns out she is a 50 percent cover user but since she knew the guy I was with it was bombs away and she had one of the largest (must have been like 6 or 7 inches long counting the dangling labia below) and sloppiest pussies and I had the best time burying my face in her 100 K+ kilometer driven pussy until I filled it up happily. Once I reported back to my friend he actually went and blew in her himself, little help from the Amerikaner who he thanked for taking the gamble

    The ISG (or any site) is really just a guide for us to share with each other the real guides are the boots on the ground and if you can find a few to help you it is perhaps the wisest move one can make at least in my case. And I can only speak from my experiences. Let the locals and for that matter the other girls you know do some of the work for you. My Gypsy dues I have paid since I started going also paid huge dividends in being told which girls to start with at each club up north and some were even contacted prior by either myself or Gypsies; had double support both from the girls at DayCare and the guys who know the Northern Gyspies. Might I also add sometimes if you are with a known guy girls that often serve light beers will make an exception and serve you a delicious full bodied brew.

    We captain our own ships but sometimes it is best to let someone else navigate you until you know the waters yourself. They also know the best places to eat so if any of you guys want to have a great day in the NRW I would highly suggest stopping in at Grimberg and seeing Caty / Katy; top notch service than after finished before the hotel stop in to this place for one fine meal.

    http://steakhouse-hauswitte.de/ ; and if in Dortmund after Verena this place is top notch too. https://dortmund.pfefferkorn-restaurants.de/ . I also learned much to my surprise that outside of probably Italy, NYC and Chicago that Germany has some of the best Italian food and pizza one can find.

    One probably wonders who spends 50 E to fuck than 70 e+ on food but the reality is all comes down to quality and value. I did have to make one concession however to be mentored by these guys which was if they removed me from DayCare to indoctrinate me in the NRW that I was under no conditions allowed to tip like I do the Gypsies and one even says it was my fault the Gypsies added a few more kilos than usual over the winter

  4. #13104
    No truth, all is subjective, as say girls: we are all different. Some look for trash sex, some like me try to feel same kind of sex I had with my real life girlfriends, why I need a woman image and behavior to be able to feel, and I m not interested by other kind of sex. Many guys think pretty girls won t be good, when I think I m on my best with princesses and not good with little GND. We all have our own subjective truth and things can change, a Romanian perfect beauty, 28 yo when we started, made me change for my tastes from Siberian looks. I m only a baby in FKK land since end of 2012, but nobody work harder than me and I saw many clubs changing, some down, some up like Oase at the moment for my subjective tastes. FKK land is a huge playfield with high quality at Globe and can sometimes find in Germany for less expensive.

  5. #13103

    Which FKK club is best? Intro for firsttimers to the Germany FKK Club scene

    Great summary by LaBamba below. It should be read by any firsttimer to the Germany FKK Club scene.

    Here is another great summary / introduction by Pessimist: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2323319 taken from the Mainhattan thread (you can read his discussions with KK and others in that thread).

    In particular I liked his intro:

    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    It is good advice to try out as many clubs as possible to figure out what suits you best. It is always a bad idea to listen to someone else's advice and exclusively rely on other men's reports to figure out where to do your mongering. Only you know your mind, heart and cock. You should figure out your most optimal mongering water holes by yourself, and the best way to do this is to sample as many as possible and settle down to your favorite ones.
    If I may add something:

    Which club is REALLY the best? In addition to knowing your own priorities and preferences, to really know this you need to go and visit each club multiple times. The selection of girls is more volatile than reports on ISG are able to disclose. Don't judge (or praise) a place to harsh after only one visit. Any firsttimer to a club will find that there is change in lineup and ambience during the day (daytime / evening / night). Each gent must find his favourite time to visit. Obviously, there is also a huge difference in lineup and ambience from the hectic weekends (Friday / Saturday night) to the girls' off days (usually Monday and Tuesday). Some like the buzz and party mood of a weekend, others will prefer the relaxing weekdays.

    By example from a club I know fairly well: It will have 40- 50 girls on a Monday, increasing to 60- 80 midweek, and 80- 100 on the weekends. But even if the numbers are basically the same for Friday and Saturday night, the LU is not exactly the same. Typically 20 of the girls will not work both those nights. There are also some girls that never work weekends. If visiting this club during a whole week, you will find that 120- 150 different girls visited the same week. The next week some will be starting a holiday period, while others will come back. Some new girl will be trying out the club for the very first time, while others will leave for another club. During a calendar year possibly 300 girls have visited the club. So, how much is a report reliable from one visit only? Things change.

    Another tip: Your local German guy in the club is your best friend. Don't ever forget this. If you know your priorities / preferences, he will suggest good clubs and potential girls for you. If you see someone you like in the club but wonders about performance, your local guy will often know more than most reports on ISG.

    But firstly; get your priorities / preferences sorted out. Learn to trust your instincts and to find chemistry with a girl. And finally; trust your own experiences.

  6. #13102

    Reflecting on a year of visits to FKK land.

    So, fellow mongers, for a variety of reasons, this past week was my last visit to Germany for quite a while. It marked my 3 week-long visit in the last year, which encompasses all my time in FKK land. I have some thoughts.

    Thanks to all of the great content and advice I got here (especially Kosher, Optimist, Lanthano, among many others), I was pretty broad in my experience. I managed to experience Sharks, Oase, Dietz, Bahama, Mainhatten, and Finca over those visits. (Write ups in the right forums for those who are interested.) While Oase and Sharks got the most attention (and Sharks had the best food, consistently), they were all worthwhile experiences. I'm most wistful about not having more time at Finca -- it is a club here the girls were fun and friendly across the board, which is rarely the case elsewhere. One day was not enough.

    I also had a pretty good time at the RLD. One of my visits included a stay right near there (and no car), and a walk, fuck and go home in under and hour for less than 50 E is always a fun event. Though you really do get a leg workout!

    I learned that 50 E30 rarely gets the best session at the big clubs; 100 E60 is so much more satisfying for the girls. I learned that DATY is received differently each time, which is part of the charm. That some girls are lousy kissers, and some will make you toes curl in seconds. I learned that optics are great for looking at, but do not at all correlate with service levels. I learned that talking, and listening, to a young Romanian girl can be surprisingly emotional, and lead to really great sessions. I also learned that some girls just want to have fun, and that's great too. I learned that German girls generally are a really lusty bunch, great in the room.

    I will never not see a headline about Romania without reading it; I'll always root for them to succeed. I'll root for their Olympic team, their football team, and I'll hope their education system allows their economy to blossom. I know lots of folks are tired of Romanian girls, or aren't wowed by their ethnic features. Cool. But for me. I came to love the Romanian girls, and I'll always treasure the memories. And thanks to KosherKowboy- I'll never hear the term "gypsy" without thinking of red couches and creamy pussies. I'll concede that some of the girls have a grating tone to their voice, but I am not so sure it's a Romanian thing, and it is certainly not a majority. I met so many beautiful Romanian sweethearts, I will always treasure Romania for what it gave me.

    I weep for the smoking; most of the girls said they started really young, and if you sit and watch, it tears at you to think of the health problems coming down the line. I remember lovely Sharks Bea, who I missed sessioning with on Friday (bummer, though I got a big hug), telling me she was going through a pack a night without even noticing, just because she was bored. Even Sharks Jennifer, a soccer player recovering from a meniscus tear, with thighs like steel cables, told me she started smoking at 12, wished she could stop because it tears at her lungs on the pitch, but just can't, it's a cultural thing. Still, so sad.

    I found I was happier with a rental car. It gives you a lot more freedom to discover, and to change plans on the fly. But I also learned that there is a big difference between a hotel with "parking" and one with "free parking". And while driving in Germany is really easy when you come from the States, as long as you stay to the right. The left lane will kill you. And you will pay a lot for parking if you need to park in the city. And if you get gas in the hinterlands, your USA credit card is often not going to be accepted, so carry that cash! (Lots of places in Germany are not enthused with credit cards the way we in the states are).

    One thing I regret was that I never met up with any of you to chat while mongering. I had a couple of good conversations with fellow patrons here and there, but mainly I like to watch the world go around, and there is not much better people watching than at an FKK, especially a big one.

    I'll always remember Mainhatten, because even though I never went back, it was my first FKK, and Kelly was wondrous. I'll remember all the girls at Finca, a club of uncompromising friendliness and comfort.

    And perhaps most of all I will remember Ro Damina and German Lara at Sharks -- they will be special treasures to me forever.

    Thanks to everyone here who gave advice along the way -- you all helped. And thanks to Germany, for having FKKs, the greatest places on earth.

  7. #13101

    Info.

    It's easy to be nervous when coming to an FKK the first time. My advice? Relax, it will all be good. Coming from the states, its hard to believe this can be legal. And easy. Most of your questions are the things that are discussed endlessly on this forum, so many regulars will be annoyed that you're asking the obvious questions, when you can find answers just by reading the FKK discussions.

    I suggest you don't do more than one club per day. No point really. There should be enough choice in any of the big clubs. You'd be wasting time and entrance fees for no good reason.

    There are young, slim, pretty girls at all the clubs. Your main decision is whether to go the true FKK clubs or the NRW Saunaclubs. The real FKK's are mostly around Frankfurt, and have the advantage of the girls being naked. Its a great experience, mind blowing really, and all of them really want to have sex with you. Many have Dessous (lingerie) day once a week so inform yourself.

    Sharks seems to be OK now for all possibilities without up sale, though many will try. Huge choice so you can safely stick to 30 E for 30 minutes, Though 60 for an hour gets better service.

    I always like Mainhattan, not smokey, good relax area where the girls don't bother you. Not as much choice, but enough. I like the way some girls fall in your lap as you're sitting on the couch. You can put your hands on their hips and waist, have a discussion and still say no.

    Don't be pressured into quick choices, take your time, and if it feels right go for it. At 50 E you're not losing much even if you have an occasional bad session.

    You'll mostly find Romanians everywhere. They are great, many have amazing bods, many are very sweet nice women. Who will give you a great natural blowjob while smiling laughing and making sure you have a good time.

    PSY us back and write reports. I always like hearing about first timers reactions to the whole phenomenon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kinghost  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I am from US and plan to visit Frankfurt-Cologne-Dusseldorf from 4-26 to 5-5, I will drive and expect to visit 1-2 FKK clubs per day. But I haven't figured out which ones I should go, there's a long to do list and I need your help to add or cut some:

    Sharks Oase Palace World Mainhattan Oceans Samya Mondial LivingRoom GoldenTime Magnum.

    I would be really appreciated if anyone could answer:

    1. Which clubs are the best for youngest / prettiest model looking girls?

    2. Which clubs have the most of Germany / Polish / Russian / Czech / Ukraine blonde girls? From reading this forum it seems Romanians are dominating.

    3. Which clubs have less upselling?

  8. #13100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinghost  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I am from US and plan to visit Frankfurt-Cologne-Dusseldorf from 4-26 to 5-5, I will drive and expect to visit 1-2 FKK clubs per day. But I haven't figured out which ones I should go, there's a long to do list and I need your help to add or cut some:

    Sharks Oase Palace World Mainhattan Oceans Samya Mondial LivingRoom GoldenTime Magnum.

    I would be really appreciated if anyone could answer:

    1. Which clubs are the best for youngest / prettiest model looking girls?

    2. Which clubs have the most of Germany / Polish / Russian / Czech / Ukraine blonde girls? From reading this forum it seems Romanians are dominating.
    I would like a bump for this post. I am also planing to visit an FKK and would like to know this info. Thanks.

  9. #13099
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinghost  [View Original Post]
    2. Which clubs have the most of Germany / Polish / Russian / Czech / Ukraine blonde girls? From reading this forum it seems Romanians are dominating.
    You're about 4-5 years too late for this.

  10. #13098

    Planning my first FKK trip, seeking advices

    Hi,

    I am from US and plan to visit Frankfurt-Cologne-Dusseldorf from 4-26 to 5-5, I will drive and expect to visit 1-2 FKK clubs per day. But I haven't figured out which ones I should go, there's a long to do list and I need your help to add or cut some:

    Sharks Oase Palace World Mainhattan Oceans Samya Mondial LivingRoom GoldenTime Magnum.

    I would be really appreciated if anyone could answer:

    1. Which clubs are the best for youngest / prettiest model looking girls?

    2. Which clubs have the most of Germany / Polish / Russian / Czech / Ukraine blonde girls? From reading this forum it seems Romanians are dominating.

    3. Which clubs have less upselling?

    4. Shall I expect to get LFK / DFK / DATY / BBBJ for the basic 50 euros /30 minutes? Is it generally I) available ii) need negotiation iii) hard to negotiate?

    5. If the girl insist the above GFE must come with 100 euros minimum, shall I reject? For 100 euros, can I ask for 60 minutes, or CIM for 30 minutes? Do you usually get much better experience with 100 euros?

    6. Do you usually tip? How much?

    Thanks again for reading and answering my questions!

  11. #13097
    Thanks for the info on Flixtrain. 10 euro from Dusseldorf to Hamburg. Pretty sure that's cheaper than diesel.

    I'm not a bus fan but some may be interested in the Interflix. 5 bus trip legs for 99 euro. Zurich, Amsterdam, Berlin, Prague, and Budapest for 99 euro. Can't beat that.

    https://interflix.flixbus.com/

  12. #13096
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Take it from someone who has taken the flixbus from Berlin to Frankfurt 3 times some years ago, it sucks. Trains are better, but with trains, you need to book well in advance for the good prices. Flixbus you can get for 20 e the same day as departure. The bus is not really very comfortable though, and mid way everyone gets woken up and have to leave the bus for 30-40 minutes at some roadside McDonalds. I wonder if Flixbus has an agreement with McDonalds, LOL!
    Flixbus runs a new service called Flixtrain. See for yourself. Clearly it is a train not a bus.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flixtrain

    At the moment at least, Flixtrain is cheaper than Flixbus, so this might be just promotional pricing to attract new customers and steal competition from DB. Today (Friday) I can book a Saturday afternoon train (on less than 24 hours notice) from Berlin to FFM for 39 EUR (4 h30 min journey) or I can book a FlixBus for 49 EUR (6 h30 min journey). That makes absolutely no sense to me at all why their train is cheaper than their bus connection. If I do that same search on DB website for Saturday afternoon, the tickets from Berlin to FFM seem to be between 100-150 EUR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Rental cars are so superior to this!
    Depends on the mongers needs and what their schedule is. Some international mongers just do four days at the same club and like to drink alcohol. In such a scenario, they just need a walkable hotel and round trip transport from the airport to FKK club. Train service can also be useful for people who have a business meeting the next day. For instance, someone could stay at Artemis until closing, than take the morning FlixTrain from Berlin to FFM. This allows them to sleep for 4-5 hours and be refreshed for an afternoon meeting in FFM.

  13. #13095
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Flixbus now runs a train service. For instance, a search for Frankfurt to Berlin today (on Wednesday) reveals that the Saturday and Sunday tickets can be low as 20 EUR. In general, they seem to be cheaper than using DB. But if you plan farther in advance or use the loyalty saver programs, I believe you can find cheaper tickets using DB. Only used Flixtrain service once, but WiFi worked as advertised. Train was about IC speed, not modern and sleek inside but clean. Downside is that they do not have many trains running. I believe for Frankfurt to Berlin, there is an early morning and an early afternoon.
    Take it from someone who has taken the flixbus from Berlin to Frankfurt 3 times some years ago, it sucks. Trains are better, but with trains, you need to book well in advance for the good prices. Flixbus you can get for 20 e the same day as departure. The bus is not really very comfortable though, and mid way everyone gets woken up and have to leave the bus for 30-40 minutes at some roadside McDonalds. I wonder if Flixbus has an agreement with McDonalds, LOL!

    Rental cars are so superior to this! Only thing that blows if you get a rental car is the added price if you deliver at a new location. And this is a main reason for me to have skipped Berlin / Frankfurt combo recently. Although I did notice a Ryanair flight between Shonefeld and Cologne with prices as low as 10-11 euro. I took it once as a transit on my way to Cologne, so I would choose this transportation method myself going forward. At least if the time of day is suitable. And then get a rental car in Cologne. Don't get a rental car in Berlin, as parking everywhere sucks. So you want to travel with public transportation there.

  14. #13094
    Well I'm white and like girls with some curves but also don't mind slim girls or full bodied ones. It all depends on the girl. Tough to generalize these things. Got to have chemistry and some attraction however.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Wawawetwet,

    Maybe half the forum here is Asian. And after awhile you realize that westerners and Asians have a slightly different take on beauty also. Many Asians preferring skinny or slim legs, while westerners care more about tits or shape of butt. Facial beauty preferences are also different for everyone here. And it changes as we age too. So take everything for a grain of salt that you read here regarding optics. And certain posters have personal vendettas against other posters or clubs. So better just scout yourself. For someone new to it, you cannot really go wrong anywhere. But if you do nrw, get a rental car in case you want to switch club and perhaps try to find out when a club has entry discounts (this goes for everywhere).

  15. #13093
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Flixbus now runs a train service. For instance, a search for Frankfurt to Berlin today (on Wednesday) reveals that the Saturday and Sunday tickets can be low as 20 EUR. In general, they seem to be cheaper than using DB. But if you plan farther in advance or use the loyalty saver programs, I believe you can find cheaper tickets using DB. Only used Flixtrain service once, but WiFi worked as advertised. Train was about IC speed, not modern and sleek inside but clean. Downside is that they do not have many trains running. I believe for Frankfurt to Berlin, there is an early morning and an early afternoon.
    Very useful. Thank you!

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