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    Reflecting on a year of visits to FKK land.

    So, fellow mongers, for a variety of reasons, this past week was my last visit to Germany for quite a while. It marked my 3 week-long visit in the last year, which encompasses all my time in FKK land. I have some thoughts.

    Thanks to all of the great content and advice I got here (especially Kosher, Optimist, Lanthano, among many others), I was pretty broad in my experience. I managed to experience Sharks, Oase, Dietz, Bahama, Mainhatten, and Finca over those visits. (Write ups in the right forums for those who are interested.) While Oase and Sharks got the most attention (and Sharks had the best food, consistently), they were all worthwhile experiences. I'm most wistful about not having more time at Finca -- it is a club here the girls were fun and friendly across the board, which is rarely the case elsewhere. One day was not enough.

    I also had a pretty good time at the RLD. One of my visits included a stay right near there (and no car), and a walk, fuck and go home in under and hour for less than 50 E is always a fun event. Though you really do get a leg workout!

    I learned that 50 E30 rarely gets the best session at the big clubs; 100 E60 is so much more satisfying for the girls. I learned that DATY is received differently each time, which is part of the charm. That some girls are lousy kissers, and some will make you toes curl in seconds. I learned that optics are great for looking at, but do not at all correlate with service levels. I learned that talking, and listening, to a young Romanian girl can be surprisingly emotional, and lead to really great sessions. I also learned that some girls just want to have fun, and that's great too. I learned that German girls generally are a really lusty bunch, great in the room.

    I will never not see a headline about Romania without reading it; I'll always root for them to succeed. I'll root for their Olympic team, their football team, and I'll hope their education system allows their economy to blossom. I know lots of folks are tired of Romanian girls, or aren't wowed by their ethnic features. Cool. But for me. I came to love the Romanian girls, and I'll always treasure the memories. And thanks to KosherKowboy- I'll never hear the term "gypsy" without thinking of red couches and creamy pussies. I'll concede that some of the girls have a grating tone to their voice, but I am not so sure it's a Romanian thing, and it is certainly not a majority. I met so many beautiful Romanian sweethearts, I will always treasure Romania for what it gave me.

    I weep for the smoking; most of the girls said they started really young, and if you sit and watch, it tears at you to think of the health problems coming down the line. I remember lovely Sharks Bea, who I missed sessioning with on Friday (bummer, though I got a big hug), telling me she was going through a pack a night without even noticing, just because she was bored. Even Sharks Jennifer, a soccer player recovering from a meniscus tear, with thighs like steel cables, told me she started smoking at 12, wished she could stop because it tears at her lungs on the pitch, but just can't, it's a cultural thing. Still, so sad.

    I found I was happier with a rental car. It gives you a lot more freedom to discover, and to change plans on the fly. But I also learned that there is a big difference between a hotel with "parking" and one with "free parking". And while driving in Germany is really easy when you come from the States, as long as you stay to the right. The left lane will kill you. And you will pay a lot for parking if you need to park in the city. And if you get gas in the hinterlands, your USA credit card is often not going to be accepted, so carry that cash! (Lots of places in Germany are not enthused with credit cards the way we in the states are).

    One thing I regret was that I never met up with any of you to chat while mongering. I had a couple of good conversations with fellow patrons here and there, but mainly I like to watch the world go around, and there is not much better people watching than at an FKK, especially a big one.

    I'll always remember Mainhatten, because even though I never went back, it was my first FKK, and Kelly was wondrous. I'll remember all the girls at Finca, a club of uncompromising friendliness and comfort.

    And perhaps most of all I will remember Ro Damina and German Lara at Sharks -- they will be special treasures to me forever.

    Thanks to everyone here who gave advice along the way -- you all helped. And thanks to Germany, for having FKKs, the greatest places on earth.

  2. #13101

    Info.

    It's easy to be nervous when coming to an FKK the first time. My advice? Relax, it will all be good. Coming from the states, its hard to believe this can be legal. And easy. Most of your questions are the things that are discussed endlessly on this forum, so many regulars will be annoyed that you're asking the obvious questions, when you can find answers just by reading the FKK discussions.

    I suggest you don't do more than one club per day. No point really. There should be enough choice in any of the big clubs. You'd be wasting time and entrance fees for no good reason.

    There are young, slim, pretty girls at all the clubs. Your main decision is whether to go the true FKK clubs or the NRW Saunaclubs. The real FKK's are mostly around Frankfurt, and have the advantage of the girls being naked. Its a great experience, mind blowing really, and all of them really want to have sex with you. Many have Dessous (lingerie) day once a week so inform yourself.

    Sharks seems to be OK now for all possibilities without up sale, though many will try. Huge choice so you can safely stick to 30 E for 30 minutes, Though 60 for an hour gets better service.

    I always like Mainhattan, not smokey, good relax area where the girls don't bother you. Not as much choice, but enough. I like the way some girls fall in your lap as you're sitting on the couch. You can put your hands on their hips and waist, have a discussion and still say no.

    Don't be pressured into quick choices, take your time, and if it feels right go for it. At 50 E you're not losing much even if you have an occasional bad session.

    You'll mostly find Romanians everywhere. They are great, many have amazing bods, many are very sweet nice women. Who will give you a great natural blowjob while smiling laughing and making sure you have a good time.

    PSY us back and write reports. I always like hearing about first timers reactions to the whole phenomenon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kinghost  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I am from US and plan to visit Frankfurt-Cologne-Dusseldorf from 4-26 to 5-5, I will drive and expect to visit 1-2 FKK clubs per day. But I haven't figured out which ones I should go, there's a long to do list and I need your help to add or cut some:

    Sharks Oase Palace World Mainhattan Oceans Samya Mondial LivingRoom GoldenTime Magnum.

    I would be really appreciated if anyone could answer:

    1. Which clubs are the best for youngest / prettiest model looking girls?

    2. Which clubs have the most of Germany / Polish / Russian / Czech / Ukraine blonde girls? From reading this forum it seems Romanians are dominating.

    3. Which clubs have less upselling?

  3. #13100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinghost  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I am from US and plan to visit Frankfurt-Cologne-Dusseldorf from 4-26 to 5-5, I will drive and expect to visit 1-2 FKK clubs per day. But I haven't figured out which ones I should go, there's a long to do list and I need your help to add or cut some:

    Sharks Oase Palace World Mainhattan Oceans Samya Mondial LivingRoom GoldenTime Magnum.

    I would be really appreciated if anyone could answer:

    1. Which clubs are the best for youngest / prettiest model looking girls?

    2. Which clubs have the most of Germany / Polish / Russian / Czech / Ukraine blonde girls? From reading this forum it seems Romanians are dominating.
    I would like a bump for this post. I am also planing to visit an FKK and would like to know this info. Thanks.

  4. #13099
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinghost  [View Original Post]
    2. Which clubs have the most of Germany / Polish / Russian / Czech / Ukraine blonde girls? From reading this forum it seems Romanians are dominating.
    You're about 4-5 years too late for this.

  5. #13098

    Planning my first FKK trip, seeking advices

    Hi,

    I am from US and plan to visit Frankfurt-Cologne-Dusseldorf from 4-26 to 5-5, I will drive and expect to visit 1-2 FKK clubs per day. But I haven't figured out which ones I should go, there's a long to do list and I need your help to add or cut some:

    Sharks Oase Palace World Mainhattan Oceans Samya Mondial LivingRoom GoldenTime Magnum.

    I would be really appreciated if anyone could answer:

    1. Which clubs are the best for youngest / prettiest model looking girls?

    2. Which clubs have the most of Germany / Polish / Russian / Czech / Ukraine blonde girls? From reading this forum it seems Romanians are dominating.

    3. Which clubs have less upselling?

    4. Shall I expect to get LFK / DFK / DATY / BBBJ for the basic 50 euros /30 minutes? Is it generally I) available ii) need negotiation iii) hard to negotiate?

    5. If the girl insist the above GFE must come with 100 euros minimum, shall I reject? For 100 euros, can I ask for 60 minutes, or CIM for 30 minutes? Do you usually get much better experience with 100 euros?

    6. Do you usually tip? How much?

    Thanks again for reading and answering my questions!

  6. #13097
    Thanks for the info on Flixtrain. 10 euro from Dusseldorf to Hamburg. Pretty sure that's cheaper than diesel.

    I'm not a bus fan but some may be interested in the Interflix. 5 bus trip legs for 99 euro. Zurich, Amsterdam, Berlin, Prague, and Budapest for 99 euro. Can't beat that.

    https://interflix.flixbus.com/

  7. #13096
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Take it from someone who has taken the flixbus from Berlin to Frankfurt 3 times some years ago, it sucks. Trains are better, but with trains, you need to book well in advance for the good prices. Flixbus you can get for 20 e the same day as departure. The bus is not really very comfortable though, and mid way everyone gets woken up and have to leave the bus for 30-40 minutes at some roadside McDonalds. I wonder if Flixbus has an agreement with McDonalds, LOL!
    Flixbus runs a new service called Flixtrain. See for yourself. Clearly it is a train not a bus.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flixtrain

    At the moment at least, Flixtrain is cheaper than Flixbus, so this might be just promotional pricing to attract new customers and steal competition from DB. Today (Friday) I can book a Saturday afternoon train (on less than 24 hours notice) from Berlin to FFM for 39 EUR (4 h30 min journey) or I can book a FlixBus for 49 EUR (6 h30 min journey). That makes absolutely no sense to me at all why their train is cheaper than their bus connection. If I do that same search on DB website for Saturday afternoon, the tickets from Berlin to FFM seem to be between 100-150 EUR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Rental cars are so superior to this!
    Depends on the mongers needs and what their schedule is. Some international mongers just do four days at the same club and like to drink alcohol. In such a scenario, they just need a walkable hotel and round trip transport from the airport to FKK club. Train service can also be useful for people who have a business meeting the next day. For instance, someone could stay at Artemis until closing, than take the morning FlixTrain from Berlin to FFM. This allows them to sleep for 4-5 hours and be refreshed for an afternoon meeting in FFM.

  8. #13095
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Flixbus now runs a train service. For instance, a search for Frankfurt to Berlin today (on Wednesday) reveals that the Saturday and Sunday tickets can be low as 20 EUR. In general, they seem to be cheaper than using DB. But if you plan farther in advance or use the loyalty saver programs, I believe you can find cheaper tickets using DB. Only used Flixtrain service once, but WiFi worked as advertised. Train was about IC speed, not modern and sleek inside but clean. Downside is that they do not have many trains running. I believe for Frankfurt to Berlin, there is an early morning and an early afternoon.
    Take it from someone who has taken the flixbus from Berlin to Frankfurt 3 times some years ago, it sucks. Trains are better, but with trains, you need to book well in advance for the good prices. Flixbus you can get for 20 e the same day as departure. The bus is not really very comfortable though, and mid way everyone gets woken up and have to leave the bus for 30-40 minutes at some roadside McDonalds. I wonder if Flixbus has an agreement with McDonalds, LOL!

    Rental cars are so superior to this! Only thing that blows if you get a rental car is the added price if you deliver at a new location. And this is a main reason for me to have skipped Berlin / Frankfurt combo recently. Although I did notice a Ryanair flight between Shonefeld and Cologne with prices as low as 10-11 euro. I took it once as a transit on my way to Cologne, so I would choose this transportation method myself going forward. At least if the time of day is suitable. And then get a rental car in Cologne. Don't get a rental car in Berlin, as parking everywhere sucks. So you want to travel with public transportation there.

  9. #13094
    Well I'm white and like girls with some curves but also don't mind slim girls or full bodied ones. It all depends on the girl. Tough to generalize these things. Got to have chemistry and some attraction however.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Wawawetwet,

    Maybe half the forum here is Asian. And after awhile you realize that westerners and Asians have a slightly different take on beauty also. Many Asians preferring skinny or slim legs, while westerners care more about tits or shape of butt. Facial beauty preferences are also different for everyone here. And it changes as we age too. So take everything for a grain of salt that you read here regarding optics. And certain posters have personal vendettas against other posters or clubs. So better just scout yourself. For someone new to it, you cannot really go wrong anywhere. But if you do nrw, get a rental car in case you want to switch club and perhaps try to find out when a club has entry discounts (this goes for everywhere).

  10. #13093
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Flixbus now runs a train service. For instance, a search for Frankfurt to Berlin today (on Wednesday) reveals that the Saturday and Sunday tickets can be low as 20 EUR. In general, they seem to be cheaper than using DB. But if you plan farther in advance or use the loyalty saver programs, I believe you can find cheaper tickets using DB. Only used Flixtrain service once, but WiFi worked as advertised. Train was about IC speed, not modern and sleek inside but clean. Downside is that they do not have many trains running. I believe for Frankfurt to Berlin, there is an early morning and an early afternoon.
    Very useful. Thank you!

  11. #13092

    Cheaper long distance train alternative.

    Flixbus now runs a train service. For instance, a search for Frankfurt to Berlin today (on Wednesday) reveals that the Saturday and Sunday tickets can be low as 20 EUR. In general, they seem to be cheaper than using DB. But if you plan farther in advance or use the loyalty saver programs, I believe you can find cheaper tickets using DB. Only used Flixtrain service once, but WiFi worked as advertised. Train was about IC speed, not modern and sleek inside but clean. Downside is that they do not have many trains running. I believe for Frankfurt to Berlin, there is an early morning and an early afternoon.

  12. #13091
    Perfect, thank you both. Haha, I agree, some small chat is fine, but otherwise not what I'll be there for. Make sense you pay for the time and not the shot. The posts don't generally say so seems to be understood. Right on. Looking forward to first trip to FKK land.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    MSOG = Multiple Shots On the Goal. 😁.

    Most FKK girls allows MSOG within the time you booked her, some even likes it more than some crazy customer creating headaches by talking weird shit for the remaining time after the first shot. But then again there are many snarky girls who want to end the session right after the first shot, even though technically they are supposed to spend (and fuck) the full 30 minutes (or multiple of it) time that she agreed with you.

    I personally never had any problem in doing MSOG with any FKK girls, and no WG ever tried to sell that as an extra to me, even in 50e / 30 minutes sessions.

  13. #13090
    Quote Originally Posted by Downandup  [View Original Post]
    All the FKK's will be open, it's a normal day for them.

    Will anyone know if you say MSOG? Even in English it's a puzzle of an acronym.
    MSOG = Multiple Shots On the Goal. 😁.

    Most FKK girls allows MSOG within the time you booked her, some even likes it more than some crazy customer creating headaches by talking weird shit for the remaining time after the first shot. But then again there are many snarky girls who want to end the session right after the first shot, even though technically they are supposed to spend (and fuck) the full 30 minutes (or multiple of it) time that she agreed with you.

    I personally never had any problem in doing MSOG with any FKK girls, and no WG ever tried to sell that as an extra to me, even in 50e / 30 minutes sessions.

  14. #13089
    Quote Originally Posted by Rogozhin30  [View Original Post]
    1) I'll be in Frankfurt for a week, including Labor Day / May Day. Will the FKKs be dead or even closed that day? How about the RLD?
    All the FKK's will be open, it's a normal day for them.

    2) Also I've seen some references to MSOG at FKKs. Of course it depends on the girl, but am wondering whether to expect this to be an upsell or included in the usual rate, say for an hour session.
    Will anyone know if you say MSOG? Even in English it's a puzzle of an acronym.

  15. #13088

    Labor / May Day.

    Hey fellas,

    Long time fan and lurker. Have tried to RTFF forum for an upcoming trip to Frankfurt. I also owe several mongering reports on Kenya, Nigeria, Ukraine, Indonesia, Vietnam. But for now have a couple questions. Based on recommendations of KK and others, looking forward to visits to Dietz and Mainhattan, possibly Sharks.

    1) I'll be in Frankfurt for a week, including Labor Day / May Day. Will the FKKs be dead or even closed that day? How about the RLD?

    2) Also I've seen some references to MSOG at FKKs. Of course it depends on the girl, but am wondering whether to expect this to be an upsell or included in the usual rate, say for an hour session.

    Thanks for all the info. Looking forward to perhaps meeting one or two of you at the clubs.

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