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    The thing is.

    It is where you feel comfortable.

    Oase, and until recently Palast filled that niche, and I await the reopening of Palast Freiburg with anticipation.

    The problem on the Palast front is when it will reopen?

    I have emailed them several times now without an answer.

    Apparently the original owner is back, which is a huge relief, as the place can get it's cool vibe back, the question is when.

    A few of the girls have have moved to Oasis whilst this situation becomes clear, and it will be interesting to see whether they stay at Oase when Palast.

    With the outdoor areas, Oasis in April forwards will be incredible as always with the outdoor areas, it is truly a resort.

    Comparisons are odious, as the saying goes, but:

    A) I don't like Sharks in the winter, it's too heavy with circling predators, the management amongst them IMHO.

    B) Palast is not open for it's best season which is April / May and I cannot plan for that.

    C) The best girls from Palast are now at Oase, but also doing short contrasts in Switzerland to keep their options open.

    The Rashina lady I met at both locations is apparently based in Bregenz, and booked out for her next two weeks at her home base with private work.

    It does make you wonder whether the FKK resorts can trade on individual talent over the longer term.

    There will always be new girls, but women with drive and talent are few in this business.

  2. #28287
    Quote Originally Posted by Saturn11  [View Original Post]
    This is one of things I dislike about Oase. If there are loads of naked girls walking around I don't need porn on the screens, would much rather have sport on them. Depending on the type of porn being shown it can have the opposite effect and put me off wanting to have sex.
    Porn in the lounge. Sports played in the dining and jacuzzi areas. You can have either for your taste.

  3. #28286
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluat  [View Original Post]
    The bar area is large and had TV's all around playing porno which is a great touch.
    This is one of things I dislike about Oase. If there are loads of naked girls walking around I don't need porn on the screens, would much rather have sport on them. Depending on the type of porn being shown it can have the opposite effect and put me off wanting to have sex.

  4. #28285
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonsai  [View Original Post]
    Could it be, that shark girls have to pay more to the management?

    Otherwise I don't understand how the girls asking for soo much more than before.
    All girls in Sharks (and Oase) seem to work off 50 euro increments hence if the price goes up it's by 50 euros at a time so it ended up doubling. In other clubs I have seen prices like 70 and 80 euros and it works fine but for the girls in Hessen clubs everything including extras seems to be in 50 euro increments.

    Another factor is there are less customers, you might think it would be a buyers market therefore but it doesn't always work that way. For example in Goldentime in Vienna it was 100 euros for 30 minutes last year then the girls changed their pricing to 150 euros saying there were less customers so they needed to make more money per room. Of course them increasing the prices means there are even less customers now!

    One thing to be grateful for us Oase and Sharks are so close to each other. Sharks has increased the price girls have to pay for entry by about 10 euros I think but I imagine they are worried about increasing the price for men to enter due to the competion from Oase. In Berlin where there is no competition Artemis is now 90 euros.

  5. #28284
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your contribution. Rest assured, you made a good decision based on your criteria. It's worthy to consider that assessments of clubs are significantly subjective. I have some disagreements but respect your decision as I think it was the right one for you. Oase and Sharks both peak at 7 pm when both early and late shifts are present. You saw Oase at it's best, 7 pm on a Saturday night. Basically 7 pm on a Saturday night is the best line up at just about every single FKK. By 8 pm, you also saw prime Sharks and determined that it was better. From an optics POV, I would make the exact same assessment. Believe me, Oase didn't get much better after 7 pm. Perhaps a couple of girls rolled in late, but you likely saw 95% of all girls. Current Cosmina of Oase, is former Sharks Cosmina from 10 years ago. She still looks good but I would seriously consider the validity of any argument that uses her as justification of superior line up qualify on a Saturday evening. She aged well, but 10 years is too much to overcome in the hooker optics world. Any 2 girls you may have missed would not have elevated Oase optical quality over Sharks optical quality on a Saturday night.

    Personally, I don't even love Sharks at the moment as I think overall experience is important and don't think that on average, you get the best service, especially if considering quality to cost ratio. However, I agree that your decision if based on optics was the correct one. Even considering my current poor opinion of Sharks, I can easily say that it provides the most number of high optic girls. Taking the average of the top 3 girls at Oase, you would probably find 2 x to 3 x as many of the same optical quality at Sharks. Thanks for your feedback and please provide more as you visit clubs, ignoring mongers who may criticize any and every decent point of view. There are a lot of egos on the forum and mongers are often an insecure bunch. But please know that your post was probably more valuable to the board than 9 out of 10 other posts, mine included. Hope other infrequent posters will be encouraged to do the same.
    I was at the party and yes, casting was low on day, Nadia and Mady ex History. Ch are back since then and improving, funny behavior for Nadia, and 2 prettiest appeared after 7 pm and the 2 pretty dancers, when Neli would be one of the very prettiest in any club, not good in room for me, even quite a kisser and she seemed to like to suck, but no skill, probably to try to save her vagina. For a guy demanding for looks, Oase is better on evening and Sharks is low since Summer, even Valentina should be back.

  6. #28283
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluat  [View Original Post]
    I'm going to say some controversial stuff that will probably ruffle the feathers of the Oase defenders, but I feel like it needs to be said so others don't waste their time and money like I did. I think first thing that needs to be more clear is when someone here says Oase has a "better" lineup then Sharks you have to know exactly what type of girls they are referring to. Are they talking about slender body girls, MILFs, voluptuous girls, big girls, fat girls, etc? I've attached an image of women's body type as a reference so people understand what I'm describing in my observations of Oase.
    Thanks for your contribution. Rest assured, you made a good decision based on your criteria. It's worthy to consider that assessments of clubs are significantly subjective. I have some disagreements but respect your decision as I think it was the right one for you. Oase and Sharks both peak at 7 pm when both early and late shifts are present. You saw Oase at it's best, 7 pm on a Saturday night. Basically 7 pm on a Saturday night is the best line up at just about every single FKK. By 8 pm, you also saw prime Sharks and determined that it was better. From an optics POV, I would make the exact same assessment. Believe me, Oase didn't get much better after 7 pm. Perhaps a couple of girls rolled in late, but you likely saw 95% of all girls. Current Cosmina of Oase, is former Sharks Cosmina from 10 years ago. She still looks good but I would seriously consider the validity of any argument that uses her as justification of superior line up qualify on a Saturday evening. She aged well, but 10 years is too much to overcome in the hooker optics world. Any 2 girls you may have missed would not have elevated Oase optical quality over Sharks optical quality on a Saturday night.

    Personally, I don't even love Sharks at the moment as I think overall experience is important and don't think that on average, you get the best service, especially if considering quality to cost ratio. However, I agree that your decision if based on optics was the correct one. Even considering my current poor opinion of Sharks, I can easily say that it provides the most number of high optic girls. Taking the average of the top 3 girls at Oase, you would probably find 2 x to 3 x as many of the same optical quality at Sharks. Thanks for your feedback and please provide more as you visit clubs, ignoring mongers who may criticize any and every decent point of view. There are a lot of egos on the forum and mongers are often an insecure bunch. But please know that your post was probably more valuable to the board than 9 out of 10 other posts, mine included. Hope other infrequent posters will be encouraged to do the same.

  7. #28282
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Unlike Sharks, Oase literally has a shift system. Girls choose to work the day shift or the night shift. When they come early, they can stay through the night if they choose. For night shift, they may arrive early, but if they arrive after a cutoff time, they have to pay more for their entry. While girls can choose to arrive later, in reality, most of the times, they are there by 6 pm. First, they don't want to pay more than they have to pay only to have less hours to make money. While you may see a girl starting later than 7 pm on occasion, the reality is that by 6 pm, almost every girl who will be there, has already arrived. Some girls will take a while to get ready, but most will not take an entire hour. If a monger is there between the 6 pm to 8 pm hours, whether summer or winter, he will see both line ups and hence will see Oase with its peak line up, missing only one or two girls. That is an undebatable fact. What is true is that Oase keeps a better late line up than Sharks. That is because the night girls are required to stay until feierabend, closing time. That however has no effect on on the peak hours being the intersection of day and night shifts between 6 pm and 8 pm, an indisputable fact of the club for at least the past 10 years.
    Some of the prettiest and on last Saturday party, start after 7 pm in lounge. Cosmina also appeared late. Leaving at 7 pm was a mistake missing the best, when Sharks is more a day club til midnight / 1 am, when Oase casting mostly worth after 7 pm on Winter to 3/4 am, some girls stopping, resting 1 hour before closing when they made enough money, Cosmina worked til 5 when I was leaving. I got Bianca at 4 am few weeks ago. I really liked 2 dancers shows on evening party.

  8. #28281
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonsai  [View Original Post]
    Could it be, that shark girls have to pay more to the management?

    Otherwise I don't understand how the girls asking for soo much more than before.
    I really don't have an answer to that, all I can relate from the conversation is that she was told how much she could charge.

    She agreed a room with extras, but the client had the fun and did not pay what was agreed.

    There was zero support from management.

    Depending on the establishment, the girls pay a daily fee, or the entrance charge as part of their contract with the club.

    The other part is what you see on the disclaimer: the girls are independent and set their own charges, so to be told what to charge.

    And not being supported by management in a transactional matter is not really OK.

  9. #28280
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonsai  [View Original Post]
    Could it be, that shark girls have to pay more to the management?

    Otherwise I don't understand how the girls asking for soo much more than before.
    Sharks management ask girls to lower their rate, but they can t force. Many girls at Sharks and some at Oase like Neli turned crazy, asking more expensive than German escorts, when they don t have the level. My tip is: don t go with these girls asking more than 150/60 which is less expensive and higher quality for me than 100/30 . I m not desperate, to pay crazy rates, when those asking the most expensive, are usually not the best, nor the prettiest. I still find higher than at Sharks for 150/60+, so I won t pay more expensive for lower quality.

  10. #28279
    Unlike Sharks, Oase literally has a shift system. Girls choose to work the day shift or the night shift. When they come early, they can stay through the night if they choose. For night shift, they may arrive early, but if they arrive after a cutoff time, they have to pay more for their entry. While girls can choose to arrive later, in reality, most of the times, they are there by 6 pm. First, they don't want to pay more than they have to pay only to have less hours to make money. While you may see a girl starting later than 7 pm on occasion, the reality is that by 6 pm, almost every girl who will be there, has already arrived. Some girls will take a while to get ready, but most will not take an entire hour. If a monger is there between the 6 pm to 8 pm hours, whether summer or winter, he will see both line ups and hence will see Oase with its peak line up, missing only one or two girls. That is an undebatable fact. What is true is that Oase keeps a better late line up than Sharks. That is because the night girls are required to stay until feierabend, closing time. That however has no effect on on the peak hours being the intersection of day and night shifts between 6 pm and 8 pm, an indisputable fact of the club for at least the past 10 years.

  11. #28278
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Sharks management told girls they ask too expensive and fuck club business with less clients, but most are really not smart, when Sharks management told new girls like Cami to work for 80/30 and 120/60 . Problem is WGs are independant workers and they prefer to make cellulite on ass, rubbing on seat, when I don t see any at Sharks worthing 200/60 , when some ask 250 or even 300 , and some pay.
    Could it be, that shark girls have to pay more to the management?

    Otherwise I don't understand how the girls asking for soo much more than before.

  12. #28277
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonsai  [View Original Post]
    The inflation at shark is very high. (does it has something to do with the management?

    The entrance was 65 before covid and now still 65 (0%.

    But the prize for girls increase from 50/100 (30/60 min) to 100/150 for 30 min and 200/250 for 60 min. (+150%.

    The price for German escort was before covid average 70/80 for 30 min and 120/150 for 60 min.

    And now it still the same!! Or slightly higher maybe +20%.

    Even the former sharks famous top girl Helli / Kelly is now in Darmstadt (not sharks) and charges only 100/30 min and 150/60 min.
    Sharks management told girls they ask too expensive and fuck club business with less clients, but most are really not smart, when Sharks management told new girls like Cami to work for 80/30 and 120/60 . Problem is WGs are independant workers and they prefer to make cellulite on ass, rubbing on seat, when I don t see any at Sharks worthing 200/60 , when some ask 250 or even 300 , and some pay.

  13. #28276
    Some night team girls start after 7 pm on Winter and that was for 2 prettiest and black Jeny on this Saturday party and also for the great show, best ever seen in FKK. My a bit professional tip is better to start at Sharks and move to Oase at 8/9 pm on Winter, when day team is average at Oase and Sharks is falling at 1 am, when Oase works till 3/4 am. I discovered Bianca at 4 am. Few girls also start late at Sharks like Kendra, Nadine, Ariana sometimes. On this Saturday, Cosmina arrived late, working til 5 am at Oase. My on the field experience when I m a foreigner who don t play tourist. On Summer, Oase garden and swimming pool are better. I don t pay for average quantity, not even to empty balls, but for dream. Neli made me dream looking at her and rubbing on me while social time, but not in bed, but I would go to her look in any club. Of course, I will not repeat but because of her extra machine behavior and she should not last for long when she is new, she didn't know where is room I chose, and not busy for such look, when I always try real beauties.

  14. #28275
    Quote Originally Posted by KittyG6969  [View Original Post]
    I have seen Sharks and hated it, there is a dynamic there that few people understand.

    The management tell the ladies what they should charge which I believe is not quite correct, result being that the girls are there to earn under financial pressure, and it shows.


    No thank you, there is a human side to this, and the connection matters to me at least.
    The inflation at shark is very high. (does it has something to do with the management?

    The entrance was 65 before covid and now still 65 (0%.

    But the prize for girls increase from 50/100 (30/60 min) to 100/150 for 30 min and 200/250 for 60 min. (+150%.

    The price for German escort was before covid average 70/80 for 30 min and 120/150 for 60 min.

    And now it still the same!! Or slightly higher maybe +20%.

    Even the former sharks famous top girl Helli / Kelly is now in Darmstadt (not sharks) and charges only 100/30 min and 150/60 min.

  15. #28274
    Oase night line up arrives by 6 pm. Leaving at 7 pm means a visitor was able to see the line up during the peak hours between 6 pm and 8 pm when both day and night line up are present.

    I have many times done the same when all clubs have their best line up present in the evening and night but Oase is the best club to spend the morning and afternoon. A good schedule is to start at Oase doing an early room then enjoying the best venue in Germany, awaiting to see who shows up at night. It night shift does not offer any targets, or perhaps only one, you can leave once you l've see them or do another room. If choosing not to stay at Oase, following up with a visit to Sharks, arriving at 8 pm, is not a bad day at all. I'm had many days like this were you spend a nice day at Oase with one or two rooms, then catching another one or two rooms at Sharks. On the best days in years prior, a monger could see a total of over 300 girls with over 30 targets.

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