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  1. #19355
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Wait and see. The order was specific about "soapy massage" (ab ob nuat) places like the ones on Rachada NOT being allowed to reopen. Not sure whether they'll enforce the ban against places like Snow White or Tulip, but it would be sensible to do so, since I doubt the shower and soap bits are the main issue with "soapies".

    Even if they're open, I don't think it's a great idea to be caught pants-down in thinly-veiled brothel obviously flouting Covid regulations at a time like this. Outcall is a better option.
    It was like this when they reopened after the last lockdown too.

    Massage parlors opened first, and soapy massage parlors followed some time later.

    My police contact at Thonglor already told me that the Sukhumvit parlors have been given the green light to reopen.

    Outcall isn't possible for those of us that has a girlfriend or wife living with us.

  2. #19354
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirt  [View Original Post]
    Massage parlors should be open as of tomorrow.

    The BMA announced today that they will ease restrictions on a few business areas, including parlors, starting tomorrow 22 Jan.
    Wait and see. The order was specific about "soapy massage" (ab ob nuat) places like the ones on Rachada NOT being allowed to reopen. Not sure whether they'll enforce the ban against places like Snow White or Tulip, but it would be sensible to do so, since I doubt the shower and soap bits are the main issue with "soapies".

    Even if they're open, I don't think it's a great idea to be caught pants-down in thinly-veiled brothel obviously flouting Covid regulations at a time like this. Outcall is a better option.

  3. #19353
    Massage parlors should be open as of tomorrow.

    The BMA announced today that they will ease restrictions on a few business areas, including parlors, starting tomorrow 22 Jan.

  4. #19352
    I found a girl that is doing freelance massage outcalls, not sure where and if I can share, but great body to ride, massage for about an hour, BBBJ and sex for 2 K.

    Not a spring chicken but great body.

    Should I get her to agree to share pics and LINE ID, is it within the rules to share it here? (could a Mod please let me know?

  5. #19351
    Quote Originally Posted by Thonglor  [View Original Post]
    I know what you mean about the hit and miss on service, but then it's kind of like that everywhere. Maybe the issue is that you pay more to find out if something / someone floats your boat when you try one of these places. Eg 4/5000 for full service as against half that along suk.

    Personally I much prefer the Kapoo places (and the better soapies): the girls are just, in general, prettier, and tend to be several notches classier than what is available in the usual places along suk.

    If anything, from my recent experience, the Kapoo places have better girls than even the high end soapies. I think higher class girls are attracted to Kapoo because they have more control, eg whether or not to have sex is entirely within their control, if they don't want they don't need to do!
    Can you share some names of kapoo places you like?

  6. #19350
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    So true.

    Over the years, I found that you can only negotiate a small number of technical aspects like two pops or anal. Anything else depends on the lady's attitude. If she's not ready to deliver it properly, and instead does it poorly with a sulky attitude, it'll be near useless, certainly not pleasant. Perhaps that's just me, and some guys are happy to plow on and do their thing regardless of reactions.
    I'm the opposite of the "plow on" guy. If she has a shitty attitude or is a very bad performer, I'll send her away before I finish and go find somebody better. If I finish with her, I can't enjoy somebody else for several hours. Depending on the exact situation, I might pay partial or sometimes full.

    Edit - I just realized this is the massage parlor section. My comments are more applicable to freelancers or bar girls coming to my hotel.

  7. #19349
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunlover2  [View Original Post]
    And trying to persuade a lady to abandon her service parameters and turn into a nymphomaniac has its own challenges.
    So true.

    Over the years, I found that you can only negotiate a small number of technical aspects like two pops or anal. Anything else depends on the lady's attitude. If she's not ready to deliver it properly, and instead does it poorly with a sulky attitude, it'll be near useless, certainly not pleasant. Perhaps that's just me, and some guys are happy to plow on and do their thing regardless of reactions.

    In addition, it seems to me that girls are surprisingly consistent about the stuff they do between punters and between sessions. If someone is typically a starfish or borderline, there's no combination of money, charm or magic words to turn her into a solid performer.

    A few times I had a quick one-and-done with a girl who seemed just ok, perhaps underwhelming, but later decided to treat her well and take her for a longer 2 x session in a more leisurely setting for 2 x-3 x more money. Never worked for me, they would deliver the 2 pops, but with the same lackluster attitude.

  8. #19348
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    In general, if the price is negotiable, making an offer first works far better than asking girls the price. This is doubly true at the time like this when the customer holds all the cards, and the girl is choosing between 1000 baht or nothing for the day.
    I prefer not to aggressively negotiate price, as IMO it increases the chances of a lackluster performance. I would rather negotiate on the time and activities side. Example: If you can find a younger / hotter provider at the Tulip tariff along with the typical Tulip attitude and services (MSOG and generally anything goes) I would sign up for that level of value.

    That said: the take it or leave it (or think about it) strategy has its place, but will more likely result in delayed gratification. And trying to persuade a lady to abandon her service parameters and turn into a nymphomaniac has its own challenges.

    SL.

  9. #19347
    Quote Originally Posted by NicFrenchy  [View Original Post]
    I was strolling the Oily route and found a cutie that was just sitting there, on her phone, tik tok-ing.

    We chatted a bit and she told me that the shop is closed but she could join me or we could go to her place.

    2100 for 90 minutes and only 1 shot. When I inquired about massage, she was puzzled "massage?

    Yes darling, you're quoting me the 1500 sex special and the 600 thb 90 minutes massage. If I finish before 90 mn, I expect a relaxing rub.

    No sir, 90 mn for sex, and when you finish she leaves.

    Does she not need customers? (granted she was the only gal there), or she still thinks it's the heydays of mongering. Either way, I politely declined and went on my way.
    The deal in most of those massage places has been one-and-done for a while now. So many are poor value and I wouldn't even consider them, but rather go to the known good ones which provide good service for the same price (Snow White, Tulip, Cherry, to some extent Mango). I don't really care to negotiate in all the gory detail what the service might or might not include, and 2. 1 k is too much for a one-and-done.

    If the shop is closed and the girl is sitting around soliciting customers, she's no longer an oily girl, but a freelancer. Don't ask her the price, but make her a decent offer (1000 baht ought to be enough for a streetwalker one-and-done). If she refuses, ask to exchange Line, she might come around later.

    In general, if the price is negotiable, making an offer first works far better than asking girls the price. This is doubly true at the time like this when the customer holds all the cards, and the girl is choosing between 1000 baht or nothing for the day.

  10. #19346
    Quote Originally Posted by NicFrenchy  [View Original Post]
    I was strolling the Oily route and found a cutie that was just sitting there, on her phone, tik tok-ing.

    We chatted a bit and she told me that the shop is closed but she could join me or we could go to her place.

    2100 for 90 minutes and only 1 shot. When I inquired about massage, she was puzzled "massage?

    Yes darling, you're quoting me the 1500 sex special and the 600 thb 90 minutes massage. If I finish before 90 mn, I expect a relaxing rub.

    No sir, 90 mn for sex, and when you finish she leaves.

    Does she not need customers? (granted she was the only gal there), or she still thinks it's the heydays of mongering. Either way, I politely declined and went on my way.
    Thai people not understanding how pricing effects sales? I'm shocked. Downright shocked. Haha but yes, that's crazy.

  11. #19345

    Business drops but prices don't

    I was strolling the Oily route and found a cutie that was just sitting there, on her phone, tik tok-ing.

    We chatted a bit and she told me that the shop is closed but she could join me or we could go to her place.

    2100 for 90 minutes and only 1 shot. When I inquired about massage, she was puzzled "massage?

    Yes darling, you're quoting me the 1500 sex special and the 600 thb 90 minutes massage. If I finish before 90 mn, I expect a relaxing rub.

    No sir, 90 mn for sex, and when you finish she leaves.

    Does she not need customers? (granted she was the only gal there), or she still thinks it's the heydays of mongering. Either way, I politely declined and went on my way.

  12. #19344
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirt  [View Original Post]
    The attitude and service these girls offer is pretty bad too. Every visit feels like a gamble.
    I know what you mean about the hit and miss on service, but then it's kind of like that everywhere. Maybe the issue is that you pay more to find out if something / someone floats your boat when you try one of these places. Eg 4/5000 for full service as against half that along suk.

    Personally I much prefer the Kapoo places (and the better soapies): the girls are just, in general, prettier, and tend to be several notches classier than what is available in the usual places along suk.

    If anything, from my recent experience, the Kapoo places have better girls than even the high end soapies. I think higher class girls are attracted to Kapoo because they have more control, eg whether or not to have sex is entirely within their control, if they don't want they don't need to do!

  13. #19343
    Quote Originally Posted by Thonglor  [View Original Post]
    Some pretty girls work in these places, though more expensive (for full service) than the Suk places.
    The attitude and service these girls offer is pretty bad too. Every visit feels like a gamble.

  14. #19342
    Quote Originally Posted by Shirt  [View Original Post]
    I won't name any names of shops in Sukhumvit (don't want to draw any negative attention from the police). I haven't really researched who's closed or not, but I know at least one shop that has a few girls available, even though their doors are closed. Just add the shops on LINE and ask if they take incall customers.

    I can name a few kapoo shops that are still open though. Since the police doesn't give a damn about them at all. Service at these places are for the most part crap as their girls are spoiled by Thai customers.

    Penthouse Spa on Ekkamai Soi 11 should still be open as they have some big shot Thai owner the police can't touch.

    Fruity Spa around Lad Prao should be open, they didn't give a damn about the lockdown last time, and it doesn't look like they care this time either.

    USB Spa near Central Bangna is still open as of today.
    Nearly all the Kapoo places in RCA seem to be open, as I discovered yesterday, however you may need to be a known face and use the back door, where they have one.

    Some pretty girls work in these places, though more expensive (for full service) than the Suk places.

  15. #19341

    Lockdown again

    https://www.thaienquirer.com/22198/b...-combat-covid/

    Some places will have to close I guess.

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