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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaveli87  [View Original Post]
    It has blown up, when you look at the numbers to ratio of population the official daily counts are very high, and that's just the ones who got tested, so you know the people out there with it is at least at minimum 3 x higher. It is exceptionally high among blue collar workers, who live in the same accommodations, it isn't blue sailing by any means.
    And you have to wonder what the count is among sex workers and the risk they pose when they go about their 'business', considering their number in Dubai is in the tens of thousands. And a lot of these women live in apartments where in say 2 rooms, you have 15 people easily.

  2. #7274
    Quote Originally Posted by Makaveli87  [View Original Post]
    It has blown up, when you look at the numbers to ratio of population the official daily counts are very high, and that's just the ones who got tested, so you know the people out there with it is at least at minimum 3 x higher. It is exceptionally high among blue collar workers, who live in the same accommodations, it isn't blue sailing by any means.
    Anywhere with high density housing (eg labour camps, 6+ people to a room) is of concern. NYC is high density and it just now saying it is slowly managing the crisis. Singapore was great then migrant workers came back and lived in dorms (maybe 10 to a room) and COVID19 spiked again. Stats can be deceiving for sure as Trump thinks his stats are a badge of honour and his team have performed to gold + star standards LOL while most of the world think he is a moron who can't understand a basic kids book LOL.

    The way to know of the UAE is doing well is by the numbers cases reported ad the 'are' statistic. Have not see that for the UAE but at least it is testing more which is seen to be a good thing from most media reporting I read.

  3. #7273
    Quote Originally Posted by Cons68  [View Original Post]
    Yes I am amazed at how well UAE has managed this one. I am still kind of waiting for something to blow up but so far all good.
    It has blown up, when you look at the numbers to ratio of population the official daily counts are very high, and that's just the ones who got tested, so you know the people out there with it is at least at minimum 3 x higher. It is exceptionally high among blue collar workers, who live in the same accommodations, it isn't blue sailing by any means.

  4. #7272
    Quote Originally Posted by WickedRoger  [View Original Post]
    While I think some people are dreaming and I think not much will happen until September (summer and haj then over) the UAE is top of the table by far for tests per capita (16.9%) on MSNBC and other TV shows recently. When you compare to the USA (I think was 27th) you realise 1) what a liar Trump is, 2) how far USA has to go to meet UAE standards and 3) how well UAE is doing (albeit a smaller population base.
    Yes I am amazed at how well UAE has managed this one. I am still kind of waiting for something to blow up but so far all good.

  5. #7271
    Quote Originally Posted by AmRev2017  [View Original Post]
    My calculation says, by mid-July or so, Dubai will open up. There will still be cases showing up for infection for sure, but it will be in control. Already it seems that the number of Active cases has peaked. And now the graph is turning towards the downside.

    The same thing happened with South Korea. But yeah, "contact-sports" will be off-limits for some time.

    Cheers!!
    While I think some people are dreaming and I think not much will happen until September (summer and haj then over) the UAE is top of the table by far for tests per capita (16.9%) on MSNBC and other TV shows recently. When you compare to the USA (I think was 27th) you realise 1) what a liar Trump is, 2) how far USA has to go to meet UAE standards and 3) how well UAE is doing (albeit a smaller population base.

  6. #7270
    Quote Originally Posted by Killer69  [View Original Post]
    The pricing is a tricky one. People are losing their jobs and leaving, and less tourists will be travelling (by that I mean even when Dubai eventually opens back up to tourists) until a vaccine is found (plus the summer months here are dead due to the heat). This means there will be substantially less customers for WG's. I would imagine many WG's will leave because of this, leaving a limited number of WG's in Dubai.

    Reduced WG numbers would usually mean the price would go up if no other factors were taken into consideration, however given that for the pool of customers left there will be less money to go around (I. E. People cutting back on spend due to fear of losing their jobs) and the fact that many customers would want to avoid contact due to the high risk of being with a WG (due to reasons already mentioned here) then I would expect the prices to go down. That's just my opinion, but difficult at present to forecast the situation fully as a lot will depend on when they open Dubai back up to tourists. But until they do then prices for WG's should definitely be reduced given overall market conditions I believe.
    My calculation says, by mid-July or so, Dubai will open up. There will still be cases showing up for infection for sure, but it will be in control. Already it seems that the number of Active cases has peaked. And now the graph is turning towards the downside.

    The same thing happened with South Korea. But yeah, "contact-sports" will be off-limits for some time.

    Cheers!!

  7. #7269

    Tricky one

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    I've been wondering this too. How will Covid effect the punting scene, not just for punters but also for the tens of thousands of hookers in Dubai. Will prices go down? Punting is the most risky activity there is with regards to possibly catching the virus, everyone knows that. That's why Brothels and rnt shops are amongst the very last that are being allowed to open back up after lock down. Given the high density of hookers in Dubai, the Dubai authorities surely know how much they can contribute to the spread of Covid. Plus, a lot of these hookers live in cramped spaces, it's common for a single room to have 5-6 women sharing. Not good when you talk about social distancing. If they are serious at wanting to control the spread of Covid, surely it can't be business as usual. I could be wrong, but I think hookers are in for a tough time in Dubai. I hope I'm wrong and things become more or less the same as they were 6 months ago. Debate!
    The pricing is a tricky one. People are losing their jobs and leaving, and less tourists will be travelling (by that I mean even when Dubai eventually opens back up to tourists) until a vaccine is found (plus the summer months here are dead due to the heat). This means there will be substantially less customers for WG's. I would imagine many WG's will leave because of this, leaving a limited number of WG's in Dubai.

    Reduced WG numbers would usually mean the price would go up if no other factors were taken into consideration, however given that for the pool of customers left there will be less money to go around (I. E. People cutting back on spend due to fear of losing their jobs) and the fact that many customers would want to avoid contact due to the high risk of being with a WG (due to reasons already mentioned here) then I would expect the prices to go down. That's just my opinion, but difficult at present to forecast the situation fully as a lot will depend on when they open Dubai back up to tourists. But until they do then prices for WG's should definitely be reduced given overall market conditions I believe.

  8. #7268
    Another question is will there be a clampdown on prostitution given the obvious risks of contracting Covid through punting is the highest.

  9. #7267

    Dance Bars

    I think the Dance Bar type places will make a comeback. The girls are all far enough and every monger has his own tables. Some least.

  10. #7266
    Quote Originally Posted by Komnetkijken  [View Original Post]
    Guys, I believe the UAE-government (or actually the Dubai government) will take all measures required to ensure there will be no second outbreak of COVID in Dubai / UAE. Expo 2020 has been postponed; they cannot have that happen again. So I believe they will be very strict, and I don't believe clubs / bars will re-open again anytime soon. From the Dubai government point of view, it's just not worth it. Surely they will loosen measures once it's possible, but those are measures on public transport, malls, restaurant. You know, the usual industries. I don't they will allow clubs to reopen as it's obvious that this will create a great risk of new covid infections. And for Dubai, it will be *killing* if new infections are reported in international newspapers. That will drive international travel demand downwards, etc.

    The only solution is to have a vaccin + mass vaccination program soon. Only then, clubs and mongering will return to the level as we knew it. Maybe you must present a proof of vaccination upon entering, who knows. And even in that situation, it's hard to tell if it will be back to the old level. The mongering scene is related to the overall / general economic level in Dubai. If business is going down with 10-20%, then that will also impact the money spent on mongering, hence girls will not travel to Dubai to do this job, etc. If business is thriving, money is spent and there's money to be made by these girls.

    The above is just my 2 cents. I'm looking forward to the day I can fly to Dubai again.
    Bars at some hotels, the resort types, and on the palm, are already opening up, but limited to guests only at the hotel. And staycations are being marketed again for people to come and stay. So it isn't iron clad strict.

  11. #7265
    Guys, I believe the UAE-government (or actually the Dubai government) will take all measures required to ensure there will be no second outbreak of COVID in Dubai / UAE. Expo 2020 has been postponed; they cannot have that happen again. So I believe they will be very strict, and I don't believe clubs / bars will re-open again anytime soon. From the Dubai government point of view, it's just not worth it. Surely they will loosen measures once it's possible, but those are measures on public transport, malls, restaurant. You know, the usual industries. I don't they will allow clubs to reopen as it's obvious that this will create a great risk of new covid infections. And for Dubai, it will be *killing* if new infections are reported in international newspapers. That will drive international travel demand downwards, etc.

    The only solution is to have a vaccin + mass vaccination program soon. Only then, clubs and mongering will return to the level as we knew it. Maybe you must present a proof of vaccination upon entering, who knows. And even in that situation, it's hard to tell if it will be back to the old level. The mongering scene is related to the overall / general economic level in Dubai. If business is going down with 10-20%, then that will also impact the money spent on mongering, hence girls will not travel to Dubai to do this job, etc. If business is thriving, money is spent and there's money to be made by these girls.

    The above is just my 2 cents. I'm looking forward to the day I can fly to Dubai again.

  12. #7264
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    I've been wondering this too. How will Covid effect the punting scene, not just for punters but also for the tens of thousands of hookers in Dubai. Will prices go down? Punting is the most risky activity there is with regards to possibly catching the virus, everyone knows that. That's why Brothels and rnt shops are amongst the very last that are being allowed to open back up after lock down. Given the high density of hookers in Dubai, the Dubai authorities surely know how much they can contribute to the spread of Covid. Plus, a lot of these hookers live in cramped spaces, it's common for a single room to have 5-6 women sharing. Not good when you talk about social distancing. If they are serious at wanting to control the spread of Covid, surely it can't be business as usual. I could be wrong, but I think hookers are in for a tough time in Dubai. I hope I'm wrong and things become more or less the same as they were 6 months ago. Debate!
    They will just enforce 'social distancing' outside the room, in bars restaurants, keep pools and gyms closed until given the go ahead, as far as guests goes, there is nothing they can do other than saying NOT ALLOWED TWO GUESTS IN ONE ROOM, which they are not doing. They are putting temperature checks at doors.

  13. #7263
    I called up Dusit Thani yesterday just to ask, I said can I bring a guest, and she got my point and said Sir if SHE (I didn't say female guest, just guest) comes after you MAYBE it could be an issue and that it's better to register together. Basically not an outright no and most probably means it is allowed, because if it isn't, they usually tell you no and give out that silly line saying in line with police rules and law it isn't not allowed bla bla bla. Yeah, sure it isn't. I once had a receptionist get straight to the point telling me on the phone sir no it's not allowed to bring sharmoota.

    This issue of whether it's allowed or not is such a huge hassle, I don't get why some insist to have a strict policy, what the hell is the difference between registering together or her coming after? If she is allowed to come with you when you register, then it defeats the idea that maybe some hotels don't want to allow WGs because of family policy or they don't the hotel to be associated with such acts, so it doesn't have jack to do with that because you can get her in if you walk to the reception together and party in the room like it's 99 once inside.

  14. #7262
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyKII  [View Original Post]

    How will hotels handle guest policy? How will bars, clubs, discotheques, AMPS, etc. Handle P4 P?

    It's just to hear some thoughts.
    I've been wondering this too. How will Covid effect the punting scene, not just for punters but also for the tens of thousands of hookers in Dubai. Will prices go down? Punting is the most risky activity there is with regards to possibly catching the virus, everyone knows that. That's why Brothels and rnt shops are amongst the very last that are being allowed to open back up after lock down. Given the high density of hookers in Dubai, the Dubai authorities surely know how much they can contribute to the spread of Covid. Plus, a lot of these hookers live in cramped spaces, it's common for a single room to have 5-6 women sharing. Not good when you talk about social distancing. If they are serious at wanting to control the spread of Covid, surely it can't be business as usual. I could be wrong, but I think hookers are in for a tough time in Dubai. I hope I'm wrong and things become more or less the same as they were 6 months ago. Debate!

  15. #7261
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyKII  [View Original Post]

    How will hotels handle guest policy? How will bars, clubs, discotheques, AMPS, etc. Handle P4 P?

    It's just to hear some thoughts.

    My hope is, that from Sept. / Oct. On life is going back to normal and we can monger as usual.

    Stay safe and healthy!
    My guess is they will want everyone to register. Given how bad the business will be the rule I expect is that if she is registered they will let her in. They will be more worried about unregistered and if she can't be traced.

    Your every single movement is already known if they want to make that effort. Those will just get tightened.

    I am sure they know everything that's going on but letting it lie as it is a reality of tourism. They will work out sensible policies which will cater to tourist but be able to track all contact and prevent infections.

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