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  1. #866
    I was in Kunshan in October and stayed at the Crowne Plaza. At that time they were not photographing those who checked in. I did not see any of the procedures in place that you encounter in Shanghai.

    Red Rider.

  2. #865

    Kunshan hotels

    Are the hotels in Kunshan checking guests ID like the current trend in Shanghai? One in Shanghai asks for name, age, sex,"relationship" on the check in form and warns of "severe penalty for not registering".

    Also claims that police checks the location a few times a week.

  3. #864

    No Laoban in Suzhou, but Wuxi is possible

    Quote Originally Posted by JayBird  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I have been to the dance hall next to Tuanqiejiao metro station several times the past month. It's open, though they close a few hours every day in the late afternoon. Lights are on but roaming seems to be more and more accepted and openly enjoyed. Ladies are for the most towards the older side.

    Second questions: Except for the Tuanqiejiao dance hall, could you guys share which dance halls you've been to lately? To save everyone from wasting time searching around for accessible dance halls it would be great of we could help each other out.

    http://www.aishx.biz/

    https://www.shlf.pe/
    I have been refused entry to all Suzhou dance halls recently. Lanbao and Jinza already refused me early January but later also Tuanqiejiao wouldn't let me enter. I am not Asian looking although speak reasonable well Chinese.

    I tried my luck in Wuxi, just 10 minutes away but high speed train. The Lianrong dance hall in Jiefang Xi Lu 12 is not so big but there are some nice women who will also join you to nearby hotels.

  4. #863

    Where is Tang Yue?

    Please give us the address for Tang Yue, sounds just my kind a place. I will have time alone in CNY and need distractions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smapti  [View Original Post]
    http://www.mhshequ123.com/

    Requires a VIP login, but has good info from time to time.

    http://sexinsex.net/bbs/index.php

    Scroll down to the bottom where it says "Adult information". Then click the Central China link. As you said, Chrome translate is your friend. Also Perpera Chinese Dictionary plug-in. You do have to pay for a login to check the info, but I believe I paid for a VIP once several years ago, and never had to pay again. I can still access the adult info. Unfortunately, I'll give you a head's up and say that there's not a lot of new stuff on Suzhou. But you can search through the older posts and see if you can find anything. A lot of the BBS stuff is probably wiped out by now, but many of the spa places are still open (the ones that look real fancy on the outside).

    I'll go ahead and tell you what I've found to work for me so far:

    Tang Yue.

    Jiangnan.

    Jiangnan appears to be just a BBBJ place with clothes on. But Tang Yue is topless with a boob massage / hand job / some touching, and sometimes some other extra treats, depending on the girl. Nice place, really. If you don't like the girl, just keep requesting another one. They're used to it. Looks totally like a family place on the outside.

    Can you suggest any other places?

  5. #862

    Tan Yue Jiangnan

    Can someone send the street numbers and directions to these pleasure palaces?

  6. #861
    Quote Originally Posted by Smapti  [View Original Post]
    http://www.mhshequ123.com/

    Requires a VIP login, but has good info from time to time.

    http://sexinsex.net/bbs/index.php

    Scroll down to the bottom where it says "Adult information". Then click the Central China link. As you said, Chrome translate is your friend. Also Perpera Chinese Dictionary plug-in. You do have to pay for a login to check the info, but I believe I paid for a VIP once several years ago, and never had to pay again. I can still access the adult info. Unfortunately, I'll give you a head's up and say that there's not a lot of new stuff on Suzhou. But you can search through the older posts and see if you can find anything. A lot of the BBS stuff is probably wiped out by now, but many of the spa places are still open (the ones that look real fancy on the outside).

    I'll go ahead and tell you what I've found to work for me so far:

    Tang Yue.

    Jiangnan.

    Jiangnan appears to be just a BBBJ place with clothes on. But Tang Yue is topless with a boob massage / hand job / some touching, and sometimes some other extra treats, depending on the girl. Nice place, really. If you don't like the girl, just keep requesting another one. They're used to it. Looks totally like a family place on the outside.

    Can you suggest any other places?
    Whoa this is a very good find. It looks like sexinsex needs vpn connection to access and new accounts take a few days to activate. In the meantime, any advice on finding Jiangnan and Tang Yue? Can you post the pinyin with numbers / tone markers? Just searching for these in English turns up nothing on baidu maps.

  7. #860
    Quote Originally Posted by JayBird  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    Second questions: Except for the Tuanqiejiao dance hall, could you guys share which dance halls you've been to lately? To save everyone from wasting time searching around for accessible dance halls it would be great of we could help each other out.

    http://www.aishx.biz/

    https://www.shlf.pe/
    http://www.mhshequ123.com/

    Requires a VIP login, but has good info from time to time.

    http://sexinsex.net/bbs/index.php

    Scroll down to the bottom where it says "Adult information". Then click the Central China link. As you said, Chrome translate is your friend. Also Perpera Chinese Dictionary plug-in. You do have to pay for a login to check the info, but I believe I paid for a VIP once several years ago, and never had to pay again. I can still access the adult info. Unfortunately, I'll give you a head's up and say that there's not a lot of new stuff on Suzhou. But you can search through the older posts and see if you can find anything. A lot of the BBS stuff is probably wiped out by now, but many of the spa places are still open (the ones that look real fancy on the outside).

    I'll go ahead and tell you what I've found to work for me so far:

    Tang Yue.

    Jiangnan.

    Jiangnan appears to be just a BBBJ place with clothes on. But Tang Yue is topless with a boob massage / hand job / some touching, and sometimes some other extra treats, depending on the girl. Nice place, really. If you don't like the girl, just keep requesting another one. They're used to it. Looks totally like a family place on the outside.

    Can you suggest any other places?

  8. #859

    Update

    Hi,

    I have been to the dance hall next to Tuanqiejiao metro station several times the past month. It's open, though they close a few hours every day in the late afternoon. Lights are on but roaming seems to be more and more accepted and openly enjoyed. Ladies are for the most towards the older side.

    PanLiLu still have BBS sex available, though the ladies there are generally 40+ and nothing to look to. A place for the desperate.

    Does anyone know if Suzhou have similar websites as Shanghai (see below)? I'm sure there must be a similar scene here as well. When I go to Shanghai I use these sites both for sauna visits and to visit QQ girls. All in all most of the experiences are recommendable. Would appreciate if someone could share a Suzhou based website. By using Google Translate or similar tools it's not a problem to navigate these websites.

    Second questions: Except for the Tuanqiejiao dance hall, could you guys share which dance halls you've been to lately? To save everyone from wasting time searching around for accessible dance halls it would be great of we could help each other out.

    http://www.aishx.biz/

    https://www.shlf.pe/

  9. #858

    Crown Plaza or Holliday Inn.

    Do you know if these hotels offer massage with HJ or BJ? Thanks in advance.

    Quote Originally Posted by FernandoAlonso  [View Original Post]
    As there is so little about Changsu (not Changzhou), which is named as Changsu, Suzhou but is actually 60 km away from Suzhou and almost as big as the latter. Most long noses will stay in the Holiday Inn or Crowne Plaza, which is a bit isolated, so grab a cap if you can find it and venture out. In case you try to use google or Apple maps to locate the hotel, forget it. It is in the northeast of the city besides the huge sport complex. No idea why the search function of both map apps is not able to locate this. Anyway now you know.

    First do not try to find Dongmen Lu, it does not exist. Qhinhu Lu does, however action is limited to two open MPs and two or three shady KTV, one kicked me out, the other the owner claimed only sing and drink and offered to accompany me, which I friendly declined. I am pretty sure both are naughty KTV, but maybe not for foreigner and being alone I did not want to go are the risk..

  10. #857

    Suxhou very north

    Still Suzhou but at the edge of the metropolitan area, has anyone any info's on any pleasant activities or bar's etc. In Zhangjiagang I've found myself out here for the next few months.

  11. #856

    Dance halls

    Quote Originally Posted by CoconutWater89  [View Original Post]
    Yep. I went to MeiMei a few days back and had a good experience. The place was much more packed than usual; middle aged / elderly chinese men have been yearning for their fix and girls have been out of work. The male: female ratio was considerably less favorable than in the past, which I think is probably because a lot of the dance hall girls already moved and found new work elsewhere. I remember about summer 2018 it was like 3 girls:1 guy in the afternoon at meimei. Now it was maybe 1.2 or 1. 5:1.

    I'm personally very okay with this more PG-13 arrangement as it was very likely to best and most fun Chinese learning tool I'd ever had access to. Met a handful of girls who became just normal platonic friends with in there as well. I think the more "professional" freelancers like the freakishly big boobed mid 30's northern woman with the deep voice at LanBao or the other tall northern girl with the bolt-ONS in meimei know how to be discrete. It was mostly the aging peasant women who probably drew the ire of the police and government by doing stuff that was just too brazen.

    Let's hope that they don't punish the whole industry for a few bad apples if the old ladies start getting aggressive again. Dance Halls forever!
    Good to hear dancehalls are open again. But, it was the free roaming and the free roaming +++ on and off the dance floor that kept me interested. I'm just glad I was there to experience the free roaming when the lights were at their darkest.

  12. #855

    Bar Fine

    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing4987  [View Original Post]
    What is the cost for takeout from the bar street venues in Suzhou? 10 years ago at Blue Lady Bar the house fee was 100, and takeout was about 350.
    Prices may vary from place to place and from the time of the evening. But in the last 12 m bar fine was still 100 rmb, but the salaried portion can be from under one K to 2 k depending on the girls self-assessment and market condition.

  13. #854
    Quote Originally Posted by Keric333  [View Original Post]
    Dance halls are up and running again. For how long, I don't know. No one really knows the situation. Most dance halls are now priced at 20 or 25 for entrance. 20 per dance except for LanBao which is 30. Things have changed a bit from the old days as lights are not as dim as they use to be. I also believe that cameras are installed all around the dance areas. So free roaming isn't as open as it once was. Many of the girls have been out of work for months so a few are willing to do take outs. As for how much, it's as much as you are willing to pay. You will have to haggle considering there is no set price and every girl works for themselves.

    K.
    Yep. I went to MeiMei a few days back and had a good experience. The place was much more packed than usual; middle aged / elderly chinese men have been yearning for their fix and girls have been out of work. The male: female ratio was considerably less favorable than in the past, which I think is probably because a lot of the dance hall girls already moved and found new work elsewhere. I remember about summer 2018 it was like 3 girls:1 guy in the afternoon at meimei. Now it was maybe 1.2 or 1. 5:1.

    I'm personally very okay with this more PG-13 arrangement as it was very likely to best and most fun Chinese learning tool I'd ever had access to. Met a handful of girls who became just normal platonic friends with in there as well. I think the more "professional" freelancers like the freakishly big boobed mid 30's northern woman with the deep voice at LanBao or the other tall northern girl with the bolt-ONS in meimei know how to be discrete. It was mostly the aging peasant women who probably drew the ire of the police and government by doing stuff that was just too brazen.

    Let's hope that they don't punish the whole industry for a few bad apples if the old ladies start getting aggressive again. Dance Halls forever!

  14. #853

    Dance halls

    Dance halls are up and running again. For how long, I don't know. No one really knows the situation. Most dance halls are now priced at 20 or 25 for entrance. 20 per dance except for LanBao which is 30. Things have changed a bit from the old days as lights are not as dim as they use to be. I also believe that cameras are installed all around the dance areas. So free roaming isn't as open as it once was. Many of the girls have been out of work for months so a few are willing to do take outs. As for how much, it's as much as you are willing to pay. You will have to haggle considering there is no set price and every girl works for themselves.

    K.

  15. #852
    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyVisiting  [View Original Post]
    Which "all the way down" road is this, down Changwu Rd or Panli Rd or?

    I tend to contact my WeChat contacts but finding new contacts is not easy.
    Prepare for some disappointment. One of these places puts a very attractive thin late 20's / early 30's girl at the desk, but then this lady brings you to a collection of mostly old fatties. I found one decent chunky lady who was still pretty and at least under 40 and actually gave the best or second best service I've ever had (probably because she knew deep down she should be paying me and not the other way around) so I can't say its totally terrible. The rooms were also very nice with great beds, good AC, comfortable, private etc. There is legit massage service attached to these places (done by the hot girl) in some cases. If / when crackdown ends and the good looking ones become more bold, it'll be a go-to.

    I went during the holiday last month and couldn't find a single decent bird, but if I had to guess I'd say the okay looking ones were less desperate and more likely to take time off.

    If it's still hard to find, just walk around each exit. There's 3 places with footbath / massage signs right next to one of the exits maybe 5-8 minutes of walking away from the exit, then a whole bunch more down the road.

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