Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Cocr Brotheler]

"If these drug lords had any brains they would make their billion or million and leave the country to retire. ".

And convert into non-traceable assets like BTC (bitcoin) and / or precious metals.

[Hargow20]

$205 million is nothing. Awhile back a drug lords house was raided & they found $20 billion in a room. If these drug lords had any brains they would make their billion or million and leave the country to retire. Or go into a legitimate business.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathani...h=38b63b472bd1

But, while legitimate commerce between Mexico and China is growing, Chinese groups are also becoming more involved in drug trafficking and money laundering in Mexico. In 2007, police in Mexico City seized $205 million in cash from a home owned by Chinese businessman Zhenli Ye Gong. More recently, USA Police have arrested several Chinese nationals for their involvement in sophisticated money laundering operations.

[Hargow20]

The big downside is that you will not necessarily see the judge immediately. I believe they can hold you in jail overnight.

They take your drivers license and then you follow them to the police station. I met their supervisor that spoke English and I paid the fine. It was 2000 peso for tinted windows. Magically my supposed speeding violation wasn't mentioned. It probably would be better off for me to have paid 500-1000 peso to the officer that pulled me over than to go to the station, but the girl I was riding with told me to go to the station.

[Artisttyp]

What certain look gets you messed with? What specifically do you mean by profiling?

Baseball hats on backwards. Baggy hip hop clothing. Large backpacks etc.

[Flyer47]

I've been stopped on foot by the cops so many times in Tijuana over the years I've lost count. Never tried to hide anything from them and have never had anything stolen. Once they realize I don't speak Spanish they usually send me on my way. Even if you do speak Spanish don't with them. Play the stupid tourist role. I've also noticed over the years that if you have a certain look to you your more likely to be fucked with. Unlike in the US where if you look at somebody the wrong way your deemed racist, in Tijuana they don't care. Profiling does go on in Tijuana so beware! Another good rule of thumb is not to be a dick when stopped or pulled over but don't be timid or show fear either. Moe.

What certain look gets you messed with? What specifically do you mean by profiling?

[Captain Solo]

Despite checking ATMs for fraud devices before each use, just about every time my wingmen and I used ATMs in HK, Cascada or out on La Zona's streets, our debit cards have been hacked. A few week later the cards would have mysterious cash withdrawals and purchases of pizzas, fast foods, merchandis, etc. A couple hundred dollars each, in various places in the US and Latin America. So they copy the cards and sold info to thieves. In most cases the banks detected fraud, alerted us and refunded our money. But if it happens too often banks may cancel your accounts.

Had no problems when cards were used in HSBC branch, Sorianna supermarket and a few convenient stores in Tijuana. I never had problems with ATMs in the US.

Don't know how the criminals did it but the ATMs in La Zona Norte must have been professionally rigged internally by the owners themselves to copy cards' info and record passwords. It's common knowledge Tijuana's red light district is controlled by the Sinaloa drug cartel. They can do whatever they want with the businesses there and nobody can touch them.

[Dogers69]

I want to be there if upon arrest, any of you guys try to explain that you want to take a uber to see a judge instead if traveling in a cop car.

A back of a police car would be great. Instead if you look closely the criminals are in the back of a pickup truck handcuffed. Better hope they don't do what Baltimore police got sued for, slamming on breaks and making sharp turns so the handcuffed criminals in back of their paddy wagon bounce all around.

[Jackie888]

I've read reports of mongers telling the policia to take them to the judge instead of paying a bribe. What happens if you decide to see the judge? Are you required by law to get in the back of the police car to see the judge? Can you arrange for your own transportation to see the judge? If you get pulled out of a taxi or an Uber to see the judge, could you take that taxi or Uber to see the judge instead of getting in the back of the police car?

Also, I believe I have heard fees that the judge assigns can be paid in San Diego. Any more information about this?

I am just curious about all of this and thank you to everyone on the forum, there is a lot of useful information on this forum.

I want to be there if upon arrest, any of you guys try to explain that you want to take a uber to see a judge instead if traveling in a cop car.

[KBToys]

I've read reports of mongers telling the policia to take them to the judge instead of paying a bribe. What happens if you decide to see the judge? Are you required by law to get in the back of the police car to see the judge? Can you arrange for your own transportation to see the judge? If you get pulled out of a taxi or an Uber to see the judge, could you take that taxi or Uber to see the judge instead of getting in the back of the police car?

Also, I believe I have heard fees that the judge assigns can be paid in San Diego. Any more information about this?

I am just curious about all of this and thank you to everyone on the forum, there is a lot of useful information on this forum.

They take your drivers license and then you follow them to the police station. I met their supervisor that spoke English and I paid the fine. It was 2000 peso for tinted windows. Magically my supposed speeding violation wasn't mentioned. It probably would be better off for me to have paid 500-1000 peso to the officer that pulled me over than to go to the station, but the girl I was riding with told me to go to the station.

[Flyer47]

I've read reports of mongers telling the policia to take them to the judge instead of paying a bribe. What happens if you decide to see the judge? Are you required by law to get in the back of the police car to see the judge? Can you arrange for your own transportation to see the judge? If you get pulled out of a taxi or an Uber to see the judge, could you take that taxi or Uber to see the judge instead of getting in the back of the police car?

Also, I believe I have heard fees that the judge assigns can be paid in San Diego. Any more information about this?

I am just curious about all of this and thank you to everyone on the forum, there is a lot of useful information on this forum.

[TJLee]

A group of soldiers will also greet you when you entered the first rotary gate.

[Captain Solo]

The government is weak and ineffective, laws and order broke down, cannot protect citizens, the population splinters into groups fighting for themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIFvY06_-1Q

[MongerHunger]

Saw a shit load of military on patrol last night (Saturday). A shit load. Talked to a mother hen chica. And she told me yeah, she noticed it too and it is probably due to the big increase in violence lately. National guards knows they're in a civilian area so they seemed pretty mellow. But I don't think Mexican soldiers knew because they loaded their SAWs with full belts as they went through the alley. Fuck.

I seen lots Mexican Army soldiers on patrol this past weekend in Zona Norte mounted on pick ups and also walking on patrol. There was also the National Guard and Municipal Police. It was a strong show of force in the area.

[Captain Solo]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathani...h=38b63b472bd1

But, while legitimate commerce between Mexico and China is growing, Chinese groups are also becoming more involved in drug trafficking and money laundering in Mexico. In 2007, police in Mexico City seized $205 million in cash from a home owned by Chinese businessman Zhenli Ye Gong. More recently, USA Police have arrested several Chinese nationals for their involvement in sophisticated money laundering operations.

[KBToys]

I am no expert on Mexico but Mexico is definitely amidst a civil war right now. There's so many billions up for grabs. Mexico is 1 of the top tourist destinations in the world, a growing economy. So much of what we see in the alley, is akin to the north Korea south Korea competitive military parades, and long range missile showoff. Basically each group in Mexico wants to show their face, show they are in charge. And this is just between the different government agencies, state and federal, city, . Doesn't even begin to get into the "other" groups who are at war with the government and each other. I get as far away from the guns as possible because I never know if one can slip up, or maybe he's in a bad mood and doesn't like gringos.

I see a different side of Tijuana and have been living in the city for the past year. So many luxury condo developments are going up, more English speaking tourists at Soriana and Wal-Mart. The civil war that is going to happen is more likely to occur in the USA With the high cost of living, soaring inflation, and mentally unstable people shooting up schools, churches, and concerts. I'm all for the 2nd amendment and gun rights, but lots of mentally unstable individuals lately in the USA I have been living in Tijuana for the last year and have yet to hear any gun shots. I know a few stabbings occurred at bars, but they were femicide incidents where the guy was upset the lady didn't want to dance so I guess he thought they deserved being stabbed in the torso a couple of times.

The only times I've heard gunshots in my life were in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Atlanta, GA near six flags. I should have experienced more when visiting New Orleans, but luckily just hung out on Bourbon St. Any place can be dangerous, but just have to keep your head on a swivel and don't be a soft target. Also only place in Mexico where you are most likely to be popped is in Cancun or Tulum with the street dealers battling for territory. Look at the news article about some of them trying to shoot at each other on jet skis and also in Tulum some tourists got hit with stray rounds during a shootout. Stay safe and have fun!