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  1. #2175
    Yeah pretty much, you have to be there to know it is what I'm trying to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScatManDoo  [View Original Post]
    So your supposed friend's ignorance of Tijuana is best explained by your prior ignorance of Las Vegas?

    Do any of you read?

  2. #2174
    Quote Originally Posted by LovesToSploog  [View Original Post]
    Well tijuana does carry a stigma, people I know from Guadalajara and Mexico City, think tijuana is just a dirty crime ridden area. Yet people from Guadalajara forget the neighborhoods outside of marketa San Juan de Dios is pretty dangerous anytime of day and people from Mexico City forget they have Tepito. Anyways you must have not read the article because it mentions like 4 different colonias (neighborhoods) that are far away from the actual zona norte or zona areo but that carries onto the entire image of Tijuana.

    I actually didn't know Las Vegas was more than just the strip until I went there and found out about downtown Las Vegas or Henderson the city next to it. Obviously you have to be there to know it.
    So your supposed friend's ignorance of Tijuana is best explained by your prior ignorance of Las Vegas?

    Do any of you read?

  3. #2173
    I've been to big cities like Chicago, St. Louis, New Orleans, San Francisco, I could compare the need to be on my toes because I know someone is watching whether it be a criminal and yes law enforcement. Perhaps I made a light statement that the zona norte is safe but when you have military patrolling the streets, that assures me that at least someone is watching out for me. Nonetheless I don't go looking for trouble so I am less likely to be attacked but then again I am aware I can't be a total tourist and act like nothing will happen to me. My point is that that article needs more context than just murders that occur in areas where hobbyist should be going out to, it just adds to the stigma that it is unsafe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ctytek  [View Original Post]
    Ehh. Comparing any area of Tijuana (Zona Norte or otherwise) with any US city is completely off mark. It is true that some parts of Tijuana are more dangerous than the others, but the violent crime is spread across the entire city. There have been a number of shootings and murders reported in the Zona and other so-called "safe parts" during the past 18 months. Several murders right in the alley in front of the clubs. Just read the local news.

    Tourist areas like the Zona and Centro are certainly safer and better policed than other parts of Tijuana, but they are still order of magnitude more risky than *any* US city. The part that makes everything worse is that Tijuana police is corrupt and targets gringos for extortion. So we have to be on the alert not just against the criminals, but the cops as well. We should not fool ourselves into thinking we are completely safe in the Zona.

  4. #2172
    Well tijuana does carry a stigma, people I know from Guadalajara and Mexico City, think tijuana is just a dirty crime ridden area. Yet people from Guadalajara forget the neighborhoods outside of marketa San Juan de Dios is pretty dangerous anytime of day and people from Mexico City forget they have Tepito. Anyways you must have not read the article because it mentions like 4 different colonias (neighborhoods) that are far away from the actual zona norte or zona areío but that carries onto the entire image of Tijuana.

    I actually didn't know Las Vegas was more than just the strip until I went there and found out about downtown Las Vegas or Henderson the city next to it. Obviously you have to be there to know it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClamSlammer  [View Original Post]
    Just wondering, who do you know that thinks Tijuana is just a little neighborhood of a larger city named " That would be equal to thinking Las Vegas is just a little section of a big city named "The Strip."

  5. #2171
    I have heard of those. Tijuana murder rate per capita is about 3 times higher than Flint. You can look up the statistics and do the math yourself. Tijuana is the 5th highest murder rate city in the world. You can also add the major level of police corruption and general dysfunction to the mix. This generally doesn't exist in the US on that level.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScatManDoo  [View Original Post]
    Have you ever heard about the murder rates of Flint Michigan? How about the violent crimes rates in nearby Detroit? Oakland California?

  6. #2170
    Quote Originally Posted by LovesToSploog  [View Original Post]
    For what is it, people tend to think that tijuana is one area in a city but in reality it's a large city with different little neighborhoods.
    Just wondering, who do you know that thinks Tijuana is just a little neighborhood of a larger city named " That would be equal to thinking Las Vegas is just a little section of a big city named "The Strip."

  7. #2169
    Quote Originally Posted by Ctytek  [View Original Post]
    Ehh. Comparing any area of Tijuana (Zona Norte or otherwise) with any US city is completely off mark. It is true that some parts of Tijuana are more dangerous than the others, but the violent crime is spread across the entire city. There have been a number of shootings and murders reported in the Zona and other so-called "safe parts" during the past 18 months. Several murders right in the alley in front of the clubs. Just read the local news.

    Tourist areas like the Zona and Centro are certainly safer and better policed than other parts of Tijuana, but they are still order of magnitude more risky than *any* US city.
    Have you ever heard about the murder rates of Flint Michigan? How about the violent crimes rates in nearby Detroit? Oakland California?

  8. #2168
    Ehh. Comparing any area of Tijuana (Zona Norte or otherwise) with any US city is completely off mark. It is true that some parts of Tijuana are more dangerous than the others, but the violent crime is spread across the entire city. There have been a number of shootings and murders reported in the Zona and other so-called "safe parts" during the past 18 months. Several murders right in the alley in front of the clubs. Just read the local news.

    Tourist areas like the Zona and Centro are certainly safer and better policed than other parts of Tijuana, but they are still order of magnitude more risky than *any* US city. The part that makes everything worse is that Tijuana police is corrupt and targets gringos for extortion. So we have to be on the alert not just against the criminals, but the cops as well. We should not fool ourselves into thinking we are completely safe in the Zona.

    Quote Originally Posted by LovesToSploog  [View Original Post]
    people can get the wrong idea of going to Tijuana, since most of the murders happen in neighborhoods that no hobbyists should be venturing off to. Zona Norte, Revolucion, zona areo are my stomping grounds and I have not felt any dangers being there with company or by myself. Obviously you need to be witty and aware of people watching you but that goes for anywhere you travel.

  9. #2167
    Thanks for the example. I'm from Santa Ana, I'm well aware of the dangers of big cities, however, from that article people can get the wrong idea of going to Tijuana, since most of the murders happen in neighborhoods that no hobbyists should be venturing off to. Zona Norte, Revolucion, zona areío are my stomping grounds and I have not felt any dangers being there with company or by myself. Obviously you need to be witty and aware of people watching you but that goes for anywhere you travel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orlanr  [View Original Post]
    Los Angeles is a very big city, just like Tijuana. There are many places I would not go during the day or night in LA. I would go to Disneyland 24 hours a day. Think of the La Zona as your Disneyland (Adult) but Disneyland.

  10. #2166

    Compare to LOS Angeles

    Quote Originally Posted by LovesToSploog  [View Original Post]
    For what is it, people tend to think that tijuana is one area in a city but in reality it's a large city with different little neighborhoods. I read the article and looked up the neighborhoods where the murders happened and I highly doubt anyone will be going off into the neighborhood in the day let alone the night. If you are venturing off to those neighborhoods, you're looking for trouble and trouble will obviously find you. The main area in the revolucion is safe, hell military humvees patrol the area. I went there last week from Friday to Sunday night and I couldn't believe how sprawling it was. A better context to the article should be posted since most members here won't be trying to find chickas there.
    Los Angeles is a very big city, just like Tijuana. There are many places I would not go during the day or night in LA. I would go to Disneyland 24 hours a day. Think of the La Zona as your Disneyland (Adult) but Disneyland.

  11. #2165
    Quote Originally Posted by WombatEd2  [View Original Post]
    Is this being reported by any news source that has at least a tiny bit of credibility?
    LOL, mongers that rely on breitBard should wear undersized bullet proof jackets when visiting Tijuana.

  12. #2164

    Cridibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by Travv  [View Original Post]
    Is this being reported by any news source that has at least a tiny bit of credibility?

  13. #2163
    For what is it, people tend to think that tijuana is one area in a city but in reality it's a large city with different little neighborhoods. I read the article and looked up the neighborhoods where the murders happened and I highly doubt anyone will be going off into the neighborhood in the day let alone the night. If you are venturing off to those neighborhoods, you're looking for trouble and trouble will obviously find you. The main area in the revolucion is safe, hell military humvees patrol the area. I went there last week from Friday to Sunday night and I couldn't believe how sprawling it was. A better context to the article should be posted since most members here won't be trying to find chickas there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Travv  [View Original Post]
    https://www.breitbart.com .

    6 April 2019.

    Robert Arce.

    "Cartel-related drug violence continues in the border city of Tijuana with 21 killings registered in less than a 48-hour period. Those deaths include three bodies abandoned in a burning vehicle.

    The killings began just after midnight on Wednesday when firefighters received a call about an abandoned vehicle burning on a dirt road in colonia Can del Padre. After firefighters extinguished the flames, they discovered the badly burned corpse of an unknown victim in the back seat. Upon opening the trunk, they then discovered two more badly burned bodies, according to local media reports. . . "

    Commenter: "There's a hot time in the old town tonight!" General advice if you do not want to visit the Tijuana morgue: Avoid being near dudes yelling "Cuanto, Cuanto. . . They tend to be bullet magnets".

  14. #2162
    Quote Originally Posted by Travv  [View Original Post]
    https://www.breitbart.com .

    6 April 2019.

    Robert Arce.

    "Cartel-related drug violence continues in the border city of Tijuana with 21 killings registered in less than a 48-hour period. Those deaths include three bodies abandoned in a burning vehicle.

    The killings began just after midnight on Wednesday when firefighters received a call about an abandoned vehicle burning on a dirt road in colonia Can del Padre. After firefighters extinguished the flames, they discovered the badly burned corpse of an unknown victim in the back seat. Upon opening the trunk, they then discovered two more badly burned bodies, according to local media reports. . . "

    Commenter: "There's a hot time in the old town tonight!" General advice if you do not want to visit the Tijuana morgue: Avoid being near dudes yelling "Cuanto, Cuanto. . . They tend to be bullet magnets".
    Yes, it is getting worse all over Mexico and probably with get much worse before if gets better. Time to be very careful.

  15. #2161

    Tijuana Drug War Rages: 21 Murders in less than 48 Hours.

    https://www.breitbart.com .

    6 April 2019.

    Robert Arce.

    "Cartel-related drug violence continues in the border city of Tijuana with 21 killings registered in less than a 48-hour period. Those deaths include three bodies abandoned in a burning vehicle.

    The killings began just after midnight on Wednesday when firefighters received a call about an abandoned vehicle burning on a dirt road in colonia Cañón del Padre. After firefighters extinguished the flames, they discovered the badly burned corpse of an unknown victim in the back seat. Upon opening the trunk, they then discovered two more badly burned bodies, according to local media reports. . . "

    Commenter: "There's a hot time in the old town tonight!" General advice if you do not want to visit the Tijuana morgue: Avoid being near dudes yelling "Cuanto, Cuanto. . . They tend to be bullet magnets".

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