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  1. #1685

    Gun Play THIS WEEK

    Lots of gun play around the zona this week. I personally ran away from a guy running down the alley with a gun in his hand. Two more murders followed on Articulo 123 . One was just this morning. Couple that with the recent death two weeks ago in the alley.

    New government and hot weather = Rocky Times.

    I'd love to post the relevant articles in spanish but not being able to load photos onto my post make it useless.

    Be Careful.
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  2. #1684

    Policias acting up.

    Wednesday 9 AM I was driving East on Coahuila back to the border when 2 policia patrol cars started following me.

    I turned South on Madero, approaching the Wax Museum, when the assholes flashed their beacons. 2 guys with no names, no badges approached our car. I was pissed off as usual and asked them in loud voice, "Que Pasa? Que Pasa?" The guy said he was searching for drugs and wanted to see my driver's license and car registration. I gave him the business card for Tijuana's Internal Affairs attorney. He looked scared but asked if I had any drugs or alcohol. I denied all.

    He started an embarrassed smile, asked me to calm down, "Tranquillo, tranquillo" and asked me to put my hands on the trunk for a search. I held my wallet and cash in both hands. He went through my pockets and was laughing at the big load of condoms in my pocket. They wanted to search my wingman. I already told him to hold his wallet and cash in hands if stopped by policias, so they could not steal anything.

    They let us go, smiling apologetically. They carefully drove behind us to hide their car's ID, but I took it down in the rear view mirror, P0443.

    Looks like policias are taking advantage of lax supervision during the transition of the new presidency to harassed people. Just put up with their bullshit but act with confidence until the new government takes firm controls.

  3. #1683
    Bigger payday / kickback from the clinic / hospital. Emergency surgery on his wallet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Travv  [View Original Post]
    To be fair, I saw the Tijuana policia helping an old American tourist with a cane in front of Tijuana Tillys Restaurant last Sunday. Looked like the guy was having a serious health problem and they were helping him into the patrol car to take him to a hospital. So they do provide a service and are not completely useless.

  4. #1682
    Quote Originally Posted by BaxterSlade  [View Original Post]
    Yep if they have half a brain it would be pretty easy for them to figure out who the riff raff are. So when they are stopping us clean cut american sex tourist types they have a pretty clear cut motive.And its not making the streets safer.

    And then they ask do you have drugs to act like that is there main concern. Ridiculos all they have to do is stand up in one of the upper floor windows in cascadas and watch the area in front of the Eduardo you would be amazed at all the drugs and money you will see changing hands.
    Fuck those thieving monkeys!
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  5. #1681
    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    When the police stop and search me and then tell me they need to search my wallet you know they are corrupt. !!
    Yep if they have half a brain it would be pretty easy for them to figure out who the riff raff are. So when they are stopping us clean cut american sex tourist types they have a pretty clear cut motive.And its not making the streets safer.

    And then they ask do you have drugs to act like that is there main concern. Ridiculos all they have to do is stand up in one of the upper floor windows in cascadas and watch the area in front of the Eduardo you would be amazed at all the drugs and money you will see changing hands.

  6. #1680
    When the police stop and search me and then tell me they need to search my wallet you know they are corrupt. !!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    I've said this before and I am not saying this to anyone in particular. Just a general comment.

    I think it's important to differentiate being stopped and questioned by police and being robbed by police. We talk alot about safety concerns. Only the police can combat that. So it's like having your cake and eating it too.

    Are there corrupt police? Certainly. But I also understand that some of their police work is to talk to people. And when I think about my activities, loitering in the alley for a short time, or when known dealers approach you, I can understand a question from the police.

    My only point is we absolutely need to warn each other about corrupt police activity. But we also don't need to overreact "normal" police work.

  7. #1679
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottHall  [View Original Post]
    I was exiting Chicago and headed toward Adelitas, and there was a policia car parked on the corner waiting for someone like me. They called me over for questioning and I had no choice but to comply. They asked me where I was going, what I was doing, where I was from, where did I work, do I have drugs. I gave them honest answers about everything and simply told them I was going to Adelitas. I put my cash in my hand and they frisked me down and they let me go. I had about 200 on me, I don't know if they would have tried to take some if I had left it in my pocket while they frisked me.
    I know.

    The policia definitely would have tried to palm some of your money if you gave them the opportunity.

  8. #1678

    Know how to handle Policias.

    To Scott Hall.

    You 've done well handling Tijuana Polciias properly. Polcicas and soldiers are poorly paid and hungry. If you leave your cash exposed, they would be tempted and would more likely than not, steal from you. But if you hold tight to your cash, they don't have the balls to rob it from your hands.

    The keys for survival and progresses in life are prior knowledge and experiences in handling difficult situations. If Tijuana does not have aggressive policia patrols, just imagine the level of violent and property crimes that wealthy mongers could be targeted for. A few mongers would be choked, beat up, knifed and robbed every day before they can get near La Zona to screw any girls.

    A few years back I found a few young Mexican soldiers manning a drug checkpoint mid way between Tijuana and Ensenada, wearing full battle fatigues, carrying weapons and heavy combat loads, hanging out in the hot sun, checking cars and buses. I gave them a few ice-cold Coke cans. They were grateful. I would not give money to solders or policias as that can be interpreted as bribes. But if I find them in needs, I would help and try to give them what they need.

    A few policias old timers in Tijuana could not shake me down with their automatic weapons late at night. They were reduced to begging me for cervezas money hehe.

    A few years back a couple young US Marines were drinking in Adleitas, marveling at the pretty and sexy chicas but did not have enough money to take them upstairs. I told them about street girls' deals and gave them enough money to have a taste of Mexican street chicas hehe. Marines, sialors, soldiers, airmen ect are precious US assets. They have been forbidden to go to Tijuana may be since 2008 due to cartel's violence. Poor kids.

  9. #1677
    Totally agree. And great point about it rattling the nerves and not being accustomed to that.

    I'm not in law enforcement but I think if I were, anyone in the zona might be suspicious. LOL I say that halfway as a joke. And I agree, if they could pick out the good guys and bad guys, that'd be great. But we all know the percentage of bad hombres in the zona is higher than many other places.

    Thanks for reporting. Sucks that it happened to you. But I appreciate you sharing that you were allowed to hold your money. Great to know and I'll benefit from that when it's my turn. I'm probably approaching my 50th trip so I'm probably overdue.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottHall  [View Original Post]
    Fair point but it seems like they single out tourists for these random searches. In my mind I'm like, what a waste of time and resources it is to hassle a guy who's done nothing wrong and no threat. Meanwhile there are a lot of genuinely dangerous people out there that they could be focusing on.

  10. #1676

    Policia.

    To be fair, I saw the Tijuana policia helping an old American tourist with a cane in front of Tijuana Tillys Restaurant last Sunday. Looked like the guy was having a serious health problem and they were helping him into the patrol car to take him to a hospital. So they do provide a service and are not completely useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    I've said this before and I am not saying this to anyone in particular. Just a general comment.

    I think it's important to differentiate being stopped and questioned by police and being robbed by police. We talk alot about safety concerns. Only the police can combat that. So it's like having your cake and eating it too.

    Are there corrupt police? Certainly. But I also understand that some of their police work is to talk to people. And when I think about my activities, loitering in the alley for a short time, or when known dealers approach you, I can understand a question from the police.

    My only point is we absolutely need to warn each other about corrupt police activity. But we also don't need to overreact "normal" police work.

  11. #1675

    Sat night.

    I was exiting Chicago and headed toward Adelitas, and there was a policia car parked on the corner waiting for someone like me. They called me over for questioning and I had no choice but to comply. They asked me where I was going, what I was doing, where I was from, where did I work, do I have drugs. I gave them honest answers about everything and simply told them I was going to Adelitas. I put my cash in my hand and they frisked me down and they let me go. I had about 200 on me, I don't know if they would have tried to take some if I had left it in my pocket while they frisked me. It's the first time I had ever run into policia in about 50 trips. It wasn't too big of a deal but it's definitely not something you want to get used to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    I've said this before and I am not saying this to anyone in particular. Just a general comment.

    I think it's important to differentiate being stopped and questioned by police and being robbed by police. We talk alot about safety concerns. Only the police can combat that. So it's like having your cake and eating it too.

    Are there corrupt police? Certainly. But I also understand that some of their police work is to talk to people. And when I think about my activities, loitering in the alley for a short time, or when known dealers approach you, I can understand a question from the police.

    My only point is we absolutely need to warn each other about corrupt police activity. But we also don't need to overreact "normal" police work.
    Fair point but it seems like they single out tourists for these random searches. In my mind I'm like, what a waste of time and resources it is to hassle a guy who's done nothing wrong and no threat. Meanwhile there are a lot of genuinely dangerous people out there that they could be focusing on.

  12. #1674

    Policia.

    I've said this before and I am not saying this to anyone in particular. Just a general comment.

    I think it's important to differentiate being stopped and questioned by police and being robbed by police. We talk alot about safety concerns. Only the police can combat that. So it's like having your cake and eating it too.

    Are there corrupt police? Certainly. But I also understand that some of their police work is to talk to people. And when I think about my activities, loitering in the alley for a short time, or when known dealers approach you, I can understand a question from the police.

    My only point is we absolutely need to warn each other about corrupt police activity. But we also don't need to overreact "normal" police work.

  13. #1673
    Quote Originally Posted by BaxterSlade  [View Original Post]
    From what I have been hearing lately it seems like the police are becoming more active in robbing gringo tourists. AND ITS NOWHERE NEAR CHRISTMAS..

    An amigo recently had the cab he was in pulled over by the police. He was ordered out, during the search a good chunk of his money disapeared, but they were kind enough to leave him enough to pay for his taxi ride.
    Elections were held just last weekend. So now is the best time for exploiters (like Tijuana Policia) to test how far they can go in their devious efforts.

  14. #1672
    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    I was walking in the alley and two cops stopped me the police car that is always parked on the west end. They questioned me and wanted to search my wallet. When I tried taking money and cell phone they objected. But then they let me hold it in my hands. The cops were disappointed when they did not find anything. That was kind of funny. After this they let me go.
    From what I have been hearing lately it seems like the police are becoming more active in robbing gringo tourists. AND ITS NOWHERE NEAR CHRISTMAS..

    An amigo recently had the cab he was in pulled over by the police. He was ordered out, during the search a good chunk of his money disapeared, but they were kind enough to leave him enough to pay for his taxi ride.

  15. #1671
    I was walking in the alley and two cops stopped me the police car that is always parked on the west end. They questioned me and wanted to search my wallet. When I tried taking money and cell phone they objected. But then they let me hold it in my hands. The cops were disappointed when they did not find anything. That was kind of funny. After this they let me go.

    Quote Originally Posted by WombatEd2  [View Original Post]
    After many years of having no contact with Tijuana LE, last Tuesday (7/3/18) I was stopped, searched, questioned briefly, and let go. No bullshit on their part. They were polite and patient as I emptied my wallet of dollars and pesos before turning it over to the to search (for drugs, they said). When they asked me if I had any drugs, I smiled politely, chucked politely, and said "no" in a tone that implied that I found that as silly as suggesting that I had the tooth fairy concealed in my trunk.

    I had been driving around the block looking for parking, and on what was probably my third pass, they pulled me over.

    The location was Coahuila & Martinez. I don't know why, but that intersection was swarming with police and soldiers. With all that "protection", it looked to me like a safe place to park on the street. And indeed, it was.

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