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  1. #11565
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    They can't even buy cigarettes with such cheap tip. My best tip is to drive 1000 kms to return on next week end and my girls prefer this, asking: When you come back?
    I wish other mongers including my self can pay with 1000 KM instead of 1000 EURO Siri LOL.

    I think prostitutes in brothel called FKK palace prefer 1000 EURO more than 1000 KM of driving by client LOL.

  2. #11564
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I don t pay for GND I would not go for free in real life. Behavior and manners are also very important for my desire, I stopped with some girls who really made me dream, because they became too prostitute behavior, losing charm for me..
    How do you define 'prostitute behaviour'?

  3. #11563
    Quote Originally Posted by Pksimar69  [View Original Post]
    This was my point, most girls especially in Palace would not be happy with a 5 e tip. I believe most girls in other clubs too.

    They are used to notes with more zero after 5.
    They can't even buy cigarettes with such cheap tip. My best tip is to drive 1000 kms to return on next week end and my girls prefer this, asking: When you come back?

  4. #11562
    Quote Originally Posted by TellYouNot  [View Original Post]
    If someone is not happy 5 Euros as a tip they need definitely need to get some perspective.
    This was my point, most girls especially in Palace would not be happy with a 5 e tip. I believe most girls in other clubs too.

    They are used to notes with more zero after 5.

  5. #11561
    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySign  [View Original Post]
    It's interesting to see how different hobbyists rate beauty based on certain standard that reflects their own personal experience. I suspect that there are mongers who rarely had intimate encounter with real beauties in their lives that when they see a pretty woman, they immediately claimed that she is a 10 or 11 or a supermodel simply because she's tall. What is everybody rating scale? Is it 1 to 10,1 to 12,1 to 15, or what? If your scale is, say, 1 to 15, you should normalize it to 1 to 10. Once you do that, your 11 may drop to 8. There need to be a standard of reference.

    I have met Leana in Palace and talked to her couple times. She's German from Berlin. Yes, she's tall, but she is too tan, too thin, and has too small tits. She needs to eat more and work out so her body can have better tone. She is definitely not a 10 overall. Forget about 11. I have mongered in FKK for more than 15 years. I have never seen a 10 or above (if there is such) in any FKK club EVER, nor will I ever expect to see one in the future. I've seen a 9 for face but only an 8 for body and vice versa. When I averaged face and body, I could only come up with 8. 5 overall. Don't get me wrong. I would go with an 8 any time without hesitation if she provides GFE.

    I wish you had elaborated your phrase 'good kisser' about Leana based on your own standard. A reviewer below begs to differ. Perhaps, you intentionally wanted to be vague and never mentioned any price. I doubt your 'good kisser' means intense, long duration, and passionate GFE kind of DFK. Correct? Are you sure you're not misleading everybody that Leana provides only tongue on cheek kind of LFK that you considered that as real 'kissing'? Are you sure you didn't just get CBJ as the reviewer below got? Did you ask her about DFK prior to going to the room? Did you speak German with her? Otherwise, did you pay any extra for certain GFE? Seriously, I wouldn't even mind to pay up to 200 Euro / HR to go with a real 10 or above (if I ever find one) if she could deliver all the services (long intense DFK, fingering, DATY, BBBJ & BL), but unfortunately or fortunately I've never met one in FKK. I have talked to Leana about GFE DFK, but she would not offer that. I ended up not going with her. I just want to put some perspectives into this discussion so other FKK newbie's can judge for themselves. The following poster gave a different review on Leana.
    For sure our beauty standard is fully subjective, so many times I heard about a beauty and was so disappointed when saw her, so now, I only trust my eyes and don't care about others list. Same for level of sex, depends on what we look for, but also from what we are, because some girls won't give all of us the same. Girls are interesting for me when you have to behave and deserve to get the best from them. Girls you see kissing, rubbing on everybody, ready for anything for money, lose interest for my desire. At the moment, Bosphore is very interesting for me, because I m really different there, found 3 high level who always ask: when you will come back? When I keep on looking for the dreamed one. I found in FKK land, at World, at Sharks, at LR, girls, all Romanians, who made me dream, prettier than most of my Russian escorts even including past top level agency Amour Russe, and also higher level than most of my so many escorts. In FKK land, I learned to know how they work for intimacy and to love Romanian woman types, had many really interesting Romanian beauties and still now, even a fire in bed, German angel face at the moment. I use supermodel word for taller than 175, when this is taller than 176 in fashion, and I saw in FKK land, deep country Romanians who are prettier than fashion famous supermodels if you see them without make up nor hair made for hours. About actress, look for example Cameron Diaz face without make up, even beauties are rare for me in FKK land, but I find few prettier faces. Romania FKK land still enjoyable for me and I may be the pickiest for looks when I can t find a beauty among 200 girls at Sharks, also can t sometimes at GT, 2 visits at Aphrodisia leaving full balls, even at Globe, but still find few who deserve I pay for. I pay only for looks who would attract me in real life, I don t pay for GND I would not go for free in real life. Behavior and manners are also very important for my desire, I stopped with some girls who really made me dream, because they became too prostitute behavior, losing charm for me. Each one own game in FKK land, where I found real beauties, competing with Russian escorts, and higher GFE level for less expensive, usually 100 for 1 hour, my standard. Can't say about German Leana because don t know her.

  6. #11560

    Wait. Really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abox79  [View Original Post]
    Good points well made Pksimar69. I've only done Palace twice, it's not been the best FKK based on my limited number of visits but not bad enough that I wouldn't recommend it. YMMV is a very true expression for this club. Yes, 5 Eu is too low.
    On the 5 Euro comment, you guys are kidding right? This is some crazy first world country bullshit. Why wouldn't you be happy with 55 Euros as opposed to 50 Euros?

    Hell if someone gave me 5 Euros, I'd take it a buy a lottery ticket. I would not be like 5 Euros, no, you keep it.

    The argument makes sense when someone is working for tips, for eg, American restaurant workers.

    If someone is not happy 5 Euros as a tip they need definitely need to get some perspective.

  7. #11559
    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySign  [View Original Post]

    Many low standard mongers have created a false impression to many newbie's who think they can just come to FKK clubs and fuck a supermodel. .
    I can't agree more with this. Super hot models don't go to brothels like FKK to fuck any random visitor. They are selective and have an elegant attitude you don't find in FKK.

    At least in my country all escort agencies have girls (mainly from Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Latvia) who are way better than FKK girls.

  8. #11558
    Quote Originally Posted by Abox79  [View Original Post]
    Good points well made Pksimar69. I've only done Palace twice, it's not been the best FKK based on my limited number of visits but not bad enough that I wouldn't recommend it. YMMV is a very true expression for this club. Yes, 5 Eu is too low.
    Well I have full respect for this girl that accepted the 5 euro tip. And I am sure she said thank you and smiled when she got the money.

    And I have full respect because she does not see clients like 'You fuck me and I fuck your wallet'.

  9. #11557
    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySign  [View Original Post]
    It's interesting to see how different hobbyists rate beauty based on certain standard that reflects their own personal experience.

    I wish you had elaborated your phrase 'good kisser' about Leana based on your own standard.

    Many low standard mongers have created a false impression to many newbie's who think they can just come to FKK clubs and fuck a supermodel. .
    While I don't disagree with anything you said, I think a dash of "YMMV" (your mileage may vary), is needed in many reviews. I won't argue beauty-it's like spice on a curry--your mild might be my hot. But kissing is something that I know directly from years of greeting new lips. I've had women that "don't ever kiss" kiss me in sessions and others that were goddesses in other reviews seem like new teenagers. I think it's a chemistry thing first and foremost. Then there's who came before you, how her (and your) day has been, etc etc.

    As to low standards. The first time I went to an FKK, I saw a room of naked women all being available and it looked like heaven. The more you monger and the more often you go to the same place, the higher the bar. Reviews, especially newer reviewers (to use one more cliche), need to be taken with a grain of salt. A first timer's review tell a newer visitor more honestly what to expect than an experienced monger's report. If someone hadn't been my wingman my first time, I'm sure I would have gone to the first girl who touched my towel and winked.

  10. #11556
    Quote Originally Posted by Howie  [View Original Post]
    Hey Sirioja,

    Is this German Lucifer of yours the same Germany Lucy in Acapulco Gold with the angel wing tattoos on her back? Short and blond with a really cute face. Come to think of it her face reminds me of Angie/Barbie's from Wellcum.

    Howie.
    She started at Great Palace, I discovered her at Palace, I returned to Palace for her, 4 1 h rooms on 2 week ends, I left Palace from her, saw her and refused her at GT and Velbert, yes small blond German Luci now sometimes at Gold, but at least only flesh, no plastic. Interesting experience with her.

  11. #11555
    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySign  [View Original Post]
    It's interesting to see how different hobbyists rate beauty based on certain standard that reflects their own personal experience. I suspect that there are mongers who rarely had intimate encounter with real beauties in their lives that when they see a pretty woman, they immediately claimed that she is a 10 or 11 or a supermodel simply because she's tall. What is everybody rating scale? Is it 1 to 10,1 to 12,1 to 15, or what? If your scale is, say, 1 to 15, you should normalize it to 1 to 10. Once you do that, your 11 may drop to 8. There need to be a standard of reference.

    I have met Leana in Palace and talked to her couple times. She's German from Berlin. Yes, she's tall, but she is too tan, too thin, and has too small tits. She needs to eat more and work out so her body can have better tone. She is definitely not a 10 overall. Forget about 11. I have mongered in FKK for more than 15 years. I have never seen a 10 or above (if there is such) in any FKK club EVER, nor will I ever expect to see one in the future. I've seen a 9 for face but only an 8 for body and vice versa. When I averaged face and body, I could only come up with 8. 5 overall. Don't get me wrong. I would go with an 8 any time without hesitation if she provides GFE.
    Remember the first time you see a prostitute that's the best she's ever got a look.

  12. #11554
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    First is not a looker, second on her first day. On March 2017 , got 1 hour full GFE rooms with German Lucifer for 100,4 rooms on 2 visits. When she came back from her break on April, she told me on bed: now kissing is extra 50 , girls ask me to ask. I answered: ok, room is finished. I didn't even touch her. She said: but you don t want to stay 30 mn for 50 you will have to give me? Stupid but honest. I answered: no, we go. I gave her 50 , I ate diner and drove to Velbert where I made a mistake about Kate, but no more problem after explanation. I refused many times Luci. De for more than 2 years. On a Saturday evening at GT, many guys were waiting for her. She came 3 times to ask if I wanted her, even when she was waiting for key with clients, I didn't go with her, nor at Velbert 1 month later. Repeated with her at Gold for really high level for 2 hours room.
    Hey Sirioja,

    Is this German Lucifer of yours the same Germany Lucy in Acapulco Gold with the angel wing tattoos on her back? Short and blond with a really cute face. Come to think of it her face reminds me of Angie/Barbie's from Wellcum.

    Howie.

  13. #11553
    It's interesting to see how different hobbyists rate beauty based on certain standard that reflects their own personal experience. I suspect that there are mongers who rarely had intimate encounter with real beauties in their lives that when they see a pretty woman, they immediately claimed that she is a 10 or 11 or a supermodel simply because she's tall. What is everybody rating scale? Is it 1 to 10,1 to 12,1 to 15, or what? If your scale is, say, 1 to 15, you should normalize it to 1 to 10. Once you do that, your 11 may drop to 8. There need to be a standard of reference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastiane  [View Original Post]
    I had spotted one girl with, easily, the best body in the club. She was really tall, with a real supermodel body and though I was exhausted I couldn't keep my eyes off that naked body especially those endless legs and that perfectly toned ass. Her long hair was brunette and she had a beautiful, typically oval, model face. Wow. An 11. Her body was even better than that of supermodels Gloria, Saskia and Laura of Globe!
    Leana, German, 180 cm without shoes!, supermodel, blue eyes, long black hair and the perfect supermodel body (lithe, long legged, toned, smallish breasts, round firm buttocks, only a tiny tattoo on wrist think). Told her I don't think I can come again but still wanted to go with her since she was so perfect. Spoke in German. The session in the room was a fantasy though I didn't manage to cum. Great BBBJ skills, good kisser, open minded. No DATY. Cow girl. Rimming OK. Very friendly too. Would definitely repeat and want to go to Palace just for her again for a full session when I am not so exhausted.
    I have met Leana in Palace and talked to her couple times. She's German from Berlin. Yes, she's tall, but she is too tan, too thin, and has too small tits. She needs to eat more and work out so her body can have better tone. She is definitely not a 10 overall. Forget about 11. I have mongered in FKK for more than 15 years. I have never seen a 10 or above (if there is such) in any FKK club EVER, nor will I ever expect to see one in the future. I've seen a 9 for face but only an 8 for body and vice versa. When I averaged face and body, I could only come up with 8. 5 overall. Don't get me wrong. I would go with an 8 any time without hesitation if she provides GFE.

    I wish you had elaborated your phrase 'good kisser' about Leana based on your own standard. A reviewer below begs to differ. Perhaps, you intentionally wanted to be vague and never mentioned any price. I doubt your 'good kisser' means intense, long duration, and passionate GFE kind of DFK. Correct? Are you sure you're not misleading everybody that Leana provides only tongue on cheek kind of LFK that you considered that as real 'kissing'? Are you sure you didn't just get CBJ as the reviewer below got? Did you ask her about DFK prior to going to the room? Did you speak German with her? Otherwise, did you pay any extra for certain GFE? Seriously, I wouldn't even mind to pay up to 200 Euro / HR to go with a real 10 or above (if I ever find one) if she could deliver all the services (long intense DFK, fingering, DATY, BBBJ & BL), but unfortunately or fortunately I've never met one in FKK. I have talked to Leana about GFE DFK, but she would not offer that. I ended up not going with her. I just want to put some perspectives into this discussion so other FKK newbie's can judge for themselves. The following poster gave a different review on Leana.

    Quote Originally Posted by PMunny  [View Original Post]
    8 pm Leanna German, very slim and tall, probably the best looking face in the club with amazing eyes (the nearest thing to a ten). A few tattoos on her arm, piercing blue eyes, small a cup tits. Had been trying to get her attention for ages, then she finally walked up to me. Was delighted and happily went to the room with her. Once inside she declared she didn't kiss or 69 but would prostate massage me! Very average CBJ, routine riding, when she said to change positions my guy got tired and she had to finish me off by hand. Rubbish session (I should have known better, she spent all her time playing a computer card game and not looking for sessions) and would never repeat. She impressively threw the sheet from across the room into the bin at the end. 50 for 15 minutes (wasn't even worth that). While the session was rubbish overall I was happy to have gone with her because she was amazing looking but should have made sure of better chemistry before going into the room.
    Many low standard mongers have created a false impression to many newbie's who think they can just come to FKK clubs and fuck a supermodel. They would be very disappointed unless their standards are so low that they would consider granny Sylvana as GND. There is no 10 in FKK. Why would a 10 or above need to work at an FKK club and let anyone screw her for 50 or 100 Euros when she has so many other options outside the clubs? Why would she need to do that when she can work as an escort or be someone else SB for a much more comfortable life? Before anyone wants to jump in and claims that he has fucked a 10 and got all the GFE services blah blah blah. Guess what. Look in the mirror and ask yourself to rethink about that. The 10 you thought was probably an 8 by any universal standard. Giving a 10 or higher in your delusional mind is like padding yourself on your back. Don't tell me that beauty is subjective or in the eyes of beholder blah blah blah. I know that. I got that. There got to be certain universal and objective standard to give someone a 10 as if she's perfect. There got to be one! Objectively speaking, it has to be tall, natural, proportional, and symmetrical. These are the qualities that are measurable, observable, and independent of race, ethnicity, and cultural background. They are probably the objective standard of beauty dated back to Leonardo DaVinci.

  14. #11552
    Quote Originally Posted by Pksimar69  [View Original Post]
    It is very interesting that you got good service for 2 round of 50's in Palace. VFM will always be in FKK land but it is rare in Palace.

    5 euro tip? Congrats to the girl for accepting it, many other would use it to wipe their ass.
    First is not a looker, second on her first day. On March 2017 , got 1 hour full GFE rooms with German Lucifer for 100,4 rooms on 2 visits. When she came back from her break on April, she told me on bed: now kissing is extra 50 , girls ask me to ask. I answered: ok, room is finished. I didn't even touch her. She said: but you don t want to stay 30 mn for 50 you will have to give me? Stupid but honest. I answered: no, we go. I gave her 50 , I ate diner and drove to Velbert where I made a mistake about Kate, but no more problem after explanation. I refused many times Luci. De for more than 2 years. On a Saturday evening at GT, many guys were waiting for her. She came 3 times to ask if I wanted her, even when she was waiting for key with clients, I didn't go with her, nor at Velbert 1 month later. Repeated with her at Gold for really high level for 2 hours room.

  15. #11551
    Quote Originally Posted by Fasbiranwar1  [View Original Post]
    Hello guys,

    I am planning to go FKK Frankfurt.

    Can you guys give me breakdown on the price and how it works please. Is it hourly basis or I have to pay every girl separately.
    You pay to get in and you pay to fuck each girl. Just that simple.

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