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  1. #26801
    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMonger  [View Original Post]
    I notice that the more veteran the bargirl is the more adamant they are about using a condom. Freelancers or non pros most likely will never insist on it. But I have had pros insist on it which is why I tend to try and pick up a non pro before a real barfine if at all possible.
    You've one a lot of research on condoms. For the veteran bargirl they need to be using condoms. It's just statistics. If 1 in ten men have an STI and they are fucking 30 guys a month then they are getting exposed. Multiple x 12 months. The genuine innocent girl pickup might only see 1-2 cocks a month so he exposure is less.

  2. #26800
    Quote Originally Posted by RainmanSahut  [View Original Post]
    It's gone from being, enthusiastic bareback, in fact offense is taken otherwise; to assumed to be the customer's option; to the girl makes a fuss about it but complies grudgingly; to the girl will outright walk without being paid rather than do bareback.
    I notice that the more veteran the bargirl is the more adamant they are about using a condom. Freelancers or non pros most likely will never insist on it. But I have had pros insist on it which is why I tend to try and pick up a non pro before a real barfine if at all possible.

    I always carry my own stock of 0. 004 L or XL condoms. The condoms they provide is like fucking a garden glove no heat or anything transfers through the condoms they are like military strength multi use condoms, you could be set of fire and your dick would probably be fine if you use their condoms. The 0. 004 condoms are bearable. I used to use these in Japan when I was in Japan, just make sure you find L or XL, the normal sizes are extremely narrow. The length of the normal sizes is fine but the actual length is fine but the narrowness scrunches up my dick something awful. Its even worst when I'm hopped up on Cialis. I haven't tried 0. 001 in a while condoms because I think they are made out of this plastic bag like material that is not as pleasant to use but maybe they have made some improvements to them since I last tried them. I saw some new brand called Aoni that are 0. 001 on amazon stating they are the worlds leading 0. 001 brand. Might give them a try on my next trip whenever that is. That being said I always have my own supply just in case.

    There may or may not be methods I may or may not have employed to get around the condom use. All of them require you to be a magician, seasoned and a scumbag so I wouldn't advise it but there are ways to start sex with a condom on and finish with it off you just need to be a monger dark arts practitioner.

  3. #26799

    Condoms, should I use them?

    Just like VietNam, You can bet your bottom dollar the girls and the PI have turned condoms into a money making business.

    Bring your own or ride them Hard Cowboy, Bareback for Sure!

    Read below story.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/asia/...ntl/index.html

    Rainman.

    Been here in the Philippines nine years. Not Angeles, Western Visayas, so YMMV. In that time I have seen condom usage amongst pros go from zero, to the point where in I've had girls nope out of the short time hotel rather than fuck without condom.

    It's gone from being, enthusiastic bareback, in fact offense is taken otherwise; to assumed to be the customer's option; to the girl makes a fuss about it but complies grudgingly; to the girl will outright walk without being paid rather than do bareback.

    At least here. I never go to Angeles so IDK about that, but that has been my experience.

  4. #26798

    Condom usage amongst pros has changed radically in the last decade

    Been here in the Philippines nine years. Not Angeles, Western Visayas, so YMMV. In that time I have seen condom usage amongst pros go from zero, to the point where in I've had girls nope out of the short time hotel rather than fuck without condom.

    It's gone from being, enthusiastic bareback, in fact offense is taken otherwise; to assumed to be the customer's option; to the girl makes a fuss about it but complies grudgingly; to the girl will outright walk without being paid rather than do bareback.

    At least here. I never go to Angeles so IDK about that, but that has been my experience.

  5. #26797
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    Never mention condom with normal girls in Philippines. They will have an argument with you.
    It depends what you mean by "normal girls. " Studies have shown that Catholic Filipino families that are more well to do have fewer kids than poor Catholic families. Possible explanations: women in more well to do families have more formal education, including information about contraception, and they feel more empowered to ignore Catholic doctrine on contraception. Studies across many developing countries show that women's education is the strongest predictor of lower fertility rates.

    Okay, it's also possible that poor Filipinos have more sex.

    A year or two ago somebody posted a link to a public television documentary about a hospital in Manila City that births more babies than any other hospital in the Philippines, especially for poor women. Before discharging the women the nurses tried mightily to convince the women to undergo tubal ligation or, at least, to accept an IUD. A few did, but many others would not, arguing either that their husbands or mothers insisted that they not agree to birth control or sterilization.

    The point is that well to do Catholic women appear to be more accepting of contraception than poor women. If education and income enter into the question of who is a "normal girl," we should expect that many might be accepting of condoms and contraception more generally. Of course, they could also be good girls who think they should remain virgins until marriage.

  6. #26796
    Quote Originally Posted by SoapySmith  [View Original Post]
    WC not withstanding--and he too has commented on the wisdom of BB--I'm pretty sure there are numerous mongers in the Phils forum that use condoms, and they're neither of these categories. I think your classification system may be incomplete.
    You forget to assume Soapy that SubComm may know this because he is in one of the 2 categories himself?

    LOL.

  7. #26795
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    Mexico /

    No big mystery that I find Phils a considerably better place. Regarding the BB thing, I don't recommend that anyone follow in my footsteps (d*ck-steps).
    I believe it is the catholic religion which forbids anything artificial and encourages procreations. Yet to see anybody insisting on condom in Philippines. During HIV scare long time I insisted covered. Girls had a puzzled look to mean ' I am not a prostitute' although they work in bars fuck for money day in and day out. For them they think it is insulting to think of them of not clean. Even I mentioned stinky pussy they just ignored me. Just do not want to believe there are STD. Surprisingly there were very low cases of HIV compared to Thailand.

    Some young girls are scared of getting pregnant and they half heartedly mention condom. But getting into the act they have completely forgotten about it and later insist on you cum outside as if it prevents pregnancy.

    Never mention condom with normal girls in Philippines. They will have an argument with you.

  8. #26794
    Quote Originally Posted by SubComm  [View Original Post]
    Condoms are only for sailors and gays.
    WC not withstanding--and he too has commented on the wisdom of BB--I'm pretty sure there are numerous mongers in the Phils forum that use condoms, and they're neither of these categories. I think your classification system may be incomplete.

  9. #26793

    Don't do what I do. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CenTexCrash  [View Original Post]
    Getting away from my known haunts of Mexico and Athens, I've had BBFS with.
    Mexico / Central America are the worst for condoms. Trying to get a first-time girl to BB is near impossible, you will need to be one of her trusted regulars and you are willing to cough up extra. Have had regulars request from +20% to +100% more for it, and refuse if I wouldn't agree to it in advance. Ditto for pics. Once went down the line in the Zona alley, got the same answers from nearly a dozen girls in a row: How much sweetie? "Twenty minutes twenty dollars". How much for 60 minutes? "Sesenta" ($60, $1 per minute was common at the time). Sin (without) condom? "No!" You allow pics? "Hahaha loco. Move on". With the last girl I asked, she gave the same answers except the pics question: "Yes pics. But no sexo. Naked pics and 20 minutes. Two hundred US dollars".

    No big mystery that I find Phils a considerably better place. Regarding the BB thing, I don't recommend that anyone follow in my footsteps (d*ck-steps).

  10. #26792
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    GFE can be had in many places. BBFS is hard to find these days. Some in Thailand allow for extra fee. Most other places very difficult. If the girl likes you or drunk may allow.

    In general most Philippine girls allow BBFS irrespective of from AC bars or from dating sites. Before Covid I have had BBFS from almost always from Philippine, most often in Thailand, some from DR, rarely from Costa Rica, very rarely from Cambodia, couple of girlfriends in China Most other countries covered only.
    Getting away from my known haunts of Mexico and Athens, I've had BBFS with.

    -a ONS with a civilian clubbing in HiSo available for over night.

    -a Manila Burgos massage, but only after I told her what I wanted. Very mechanical. And her co worker rifled my clothes and helped herself to 3000 p cash in one pant pocket.

    -a brothel girl in Buenos Aires where all WGs are from Paraguay. Official Latin American policy is condoms for poking, by I had enough charm and maneuvers to slide in after BBBJ, she was hesitant at first but decided I wasn't too threatening and she probably didn't feel like arguing in Spanglish so she just let me do my raw xp. I guess I got lucky.

  11. #26791
    Quote Originally Posted by BrizLad  [View Original Post]
    The sugar dating scene seems to progress to BBFS after 1-2 meetings.

    To be fair to the working girls, the really professional girls really do need to be using protection.
    Condoms are only for sailors and gays.

  12. #26790
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    GFE can be had in many places. BBFS is hard to find these days. Some in Thailand allow for extra fee. Most other places very difficult. If the girl likes you or drunk may allow.

    In general most Philippine girls allow BBFS irrespective of from AC bars or from dating sites. Before Covid I have had BBFS from almost always from Philippine, most often in Thailand, some from DR, rarely from Costa Rica, very rarely from Cambodia, couple of girlfriends in China Most other countries covered only.
    I'm in Pattaya and I go often to Cambodia and I can say you that all the girls I fuck allow BBFS. Just a few girls ask me extra fee. Usually I give them 500/1000 more! I love to fuck in Soi 6 or Soi LK in Pattaya.

    And in PP in Cambodia, any bars on street 136 or near.

  13. #26789
    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver22  [View Original Post]
    I know a big draw of AC is the true GFE with BBFS as part of that. With AC shut down for the foreseeable future (hopefully it comes back), where are some other alternatives for this kind of experience?
    The sugar dating scene seems to progress to BBFS after 1-2 meetings.

    To be fair to the working girls, the really professional girls really do need to be using protection.

  14. #26788
    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver22  [View Original Post]
    I know a big draw of AC is the true GFE with BBFS as part of that. With AC shut down for the foreseeable future (hopefully it comes back), where are some other alternatives for this kind of experience?
    GFE can be had in many places. BBFS is hard to find these days. Some in Thailand allow for extra fee. Most other places very difficult. If the girl likes you or drunk may allow.

    In general most Philippine girls allow BBFS irrespective of from AC bars or from dating sites. Before Covid I have had BBFS from almost always from Philippine, most often in Thailand, some from DR, rarely from Costa Rica, very rarely from Cambodia, couple of girlfriends in China Most other countries covered only.

  15. #26787

    Alternatives to AC for GFE

    I know a big draw of AC is the true GFE with BBFS as part of that. With AC shut down for the foreseeable future (hopefully it comes back), where are some other alternatives for this kind of experience?

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