Angeles City

[A Traveler]

And exactly that's why I hate the changes brought to AC by the Ks to AC: the fucking evening gowns, that's a deceiving practice used to conceal and enhance, any professional mongerer should stay away from that as far as possible, and that's the reason why I'm avoiding that type of bar, always trickery it's involved.

My choices when going shopping are in this order: naked, taped, bikini, tight clothing (pants, dress, etc.).

I wholeheartedly agree, but what are our choices? I only saw naked here once, late at night, for only about ten minutes. The number of bars with tape / bikini / tight clothes is limited, and if we only stick to those our choices are less.

[Old And Ugly]

Yesterday I visited Atlantis, which I understand is under new management. There were a lot of ladies on the stage, and very few customers early in the night when I visited. I believe girls from Dollhouse, which is being renovated are temporarily based out of Atlantis. A lot of the ladies were tall and wearing evening gowns or black tape, but none of them appealed to me. There were some cute young ones in uniform who I thought were barfinable.

......... Unfortunately I was disappointed when I undressed her. She was too petite and skinny for my tastes, but some guys would like that. I prefer a more full figured lady with hips...............

And exactly that's why I hate the changes brought to AC by the Ks to AC: the fucking evening gowns, that's a deceiving practice used to conceal and enhance, any professional mongerer should stay away from that as far as possible, and that's the reason why I'm avoiding that type of bar, always trickery it's involved.

My choices when going shopping are in this order: naked, taped, bikini, tight clothing (pants, dress, etc.).

[A Traveler]

Eight years ago, I was last in Angeles. I've rarely checked this forum, yet I've noticed a remarkable decline. Or so it seems. After the pandemic, the influx of Koreans, and a shift in the women's mentality, what remains of Angeles?

This question is broken down into countless specific sub-questions, for which I struggled to find answers amidst the chaos of the forum, so I'm summarizing them here as best I can.

Is it still possible to find really beautiful women in Angeles for little money, and if so, how?

Are there specific bars? Do you have to befriend the Koreans? Should you contact freelancers instead?

The answer could also be no. Perhaps the days of Angeles as it once was are simply over. I'm not sure yet. It probably requires personal experience on-site. Or perhaps reports and answers here from people who know both the old and the new Angeles..

Sure, it's different, but it's still fine. The thing to keep in mind is that most of the guys here having fun are not posting on this forum. There's still a bunch of bars in a compact, walkable area full of ladies. Sure, a lot of ladies are just average, but there's always young pretties somewhere if you take the time to hunt. The fun of a place like this is the hunt and visiting different venues. If you don't like barhopping this place might not be for you. It sucks that barfines are 5,000 and it will probably be ST, but it is what it is.

As for the K bars, it's unfortunate they are not fun places to hang out, and function more like take-out brothels. But they can have pretty girls in them. Just poke your head in and take a look, because all of the available girls will be sitting on the stage. There are no more in back. Ignore the waitresses and guys telling you to have a seat. If you see a girl you like go in and sit down and they will all stand up so you can call the one you like down. Otherwise just leave. That's what the Asians do (not all Asians are Korean here).

[A Traveler]

I visited Carousel early in the evening. Only a couple customers early in the evening. Most girls on the rotating stage were average, but two looked barfinable.

Next up Lucifer, same story, a couple attractive ladies, most just average. The place was quiet early in the evening. I only had 1,000 to pay my 100 tab, and had to wait 30 minutes for change. After 20 minutes I went over by the cashier, who asked staff to borrow money until that had the 900 for me.

I went back to Champaign at 8 to see my first night girl. The place was crowded and there's quite. Few girls, most pretty attractive. Champaign is a fun bar. But my girl didn't seem all that excited to see me. Had one drink with her and chatted, then back to my place for boom boom. It was pretty satisfying, but I don't think she likes me. I asked for her WhatsApp, and she took my number, but refused to message me, then was straight out the door. I guess I know where to find her if I want another satisfying quicky, but I'll probably move on.

Tomorrow I'll take a night off. I have three weeks so can pace myself.

[PhilJoy]

Eight years ago, I was last in Angeles. I've rarely checked this forum, yet I've noticed a remarkable decline. Or so it seems. After the pandemic, the influx of Koreans, and a shift in the women's mentality, what remains of Angeles?

The truly great thing about a forum is the diversity of perspectives. So here are the questions about an alternative perspective:

Where can you most easily find conditions like in old Angeles? Or, to put it another way: Where should you go if you want to meet really beautiful women for little money?

Today I only have questions. Just two, in fact. I promise to contribute to the answers in the future. In Angeles or wherever.

Hope, it's well worth asking the question.

Just my opinion, but the good old days are gone.

I've stated here before that Angeles is basically my last resort as I really don't particularly like the place, when you can score something in nicer places. I only visit Angeles when work takes me close.

Other guys may have more positive experiences _ Each to their own.

From personal experience. I'd advise to take the freelance route anywhere in The Phils.

A little more time involved, but for a lot less cash. It seems outsiders have taken over running the bars for profit and don't consider the customer or the working girls. From all recent reports, the prices are huge for barfines, lady drinks and ST only.

Learn to play the current game, and go the freelancer route would be my advice, but others may differ.

I'm sure a lot of other guys will be able to offer varied advice.

Regards _ Phil.

[NewHope]

Eight years ago, I was last in Angeles. I've rarely checked this forum, yet I've noticed a remarkable decline. Or so it seems. After the pandemic, the influx of Koreans, and a shift in the women's mentality, what remains of Angeles?

This question is broken down into countless specific sub-questions, for which I struggled to find answers amidst the chaos of the forum, so I'm summarizing them here as best I can.

Is it still possible to find really beautiful women in Angeles for little money, and if so, how?

Are there specific bars? Do you have to befriend the Koreans? Should you contact freelancers instead?

The answer could also be no. Perhaps the days of Angeles as it once was are simply over. I'm not sure yet. It probably requires personal experience on-site. Or perhaps reports and answers here from people who know both the old and the new Angeles.

Is it still possible to find out for sure? Should the answer be a definite no (which I doubt), the question of alternatives inevitably arises. The world is vast. What gets worse in one place gets better in another. As we know, the world as a whole is always getting better. It all depends on your perspective. The truly great thing about a forum is the diversity of perspectives. So here are the questions about an alternative perspective:

Where can you most easily find conditions like in old Angeles? Or, to put it another way: Where should you go if you want to meet really beautiful women for little money?

Today I only have questions. Just two, in fact. I promise to contribute to the answers in the future. In Angeles or wherever.

[A Traveler]

Yesterday I visited Atlantis, which I understand is under new management. There were a lot of ladies on the stage, and very few customers early in the night when I visited. I believe girls from Dollhouse, which is being renovated are temporarily based out of Atlantis. A lot of the ladies were tall and wearing evening gowns or black tape, but none of them appealed to me. There were some cute young ones in uniform who I thought were barfinable.

I tend to gravitate towards venues I had good experiences at recently. Last year I took a charming 19 year old half Chinese girl from Baccara, so I went there next. The lineup was just average looking ladies, non I would pay 5,000 for. Annoyingly a grumpy lady sat next to me and kept gesturing at the stage for me to pick someone. There's no concept of just sitting and finishing a beer in these bars, so no way to explain that I'm not interested in any of the ladies. She got grumpier each time she gestured and I wouldn't pick anyone.

Next back to Arcadia to barfine glasses girl. The fat supervisor sat next to me and said it was her day off (which could be true, or it could me she was already barfined). But the beautiful girl with long hair and bangs was on stage, so I pulled the trigger on her. Interestingly she said she was from Manila, not Samar. She was petite and looked 18 but said she was 22. Of course she had a two year old. She told me up front short time only for 5,000, which I appreciated. Her service was exceptional. She paid attention to me, laughed at my jokes and stayed off her phone. I just fed her at McDonald's then took her straight home. Unfortunately I was disappointed when I undressed her. She was too petite and skinny for my tastes, but some guys would like that. I prefer a more full figured lady with hips. She asked for a condom but I just asked to finish on her tummy, which she readily agreed to. Like I said, exceptional service, but I don't think I'll be taking her again because she was too small for me. Interestingly, "bigger" ladies with hips sometimes complain about my size, but she had no complaints and let me bang her hard.

Short time for 5,000 kind of sucks, but it was nice when she left at ten and I was able to get a full night's sleep.

[PhilJoy]

I'd be interested if I can find a way that is reliable and confidential.

I might look for a walk in clinic here. My family doc is a bit of a man hating femnazi so I wouldn't be surprised if my wife "accidentally" got to see my records. Not good indeed. There is no way I'd resort to buying off the street on Burgos, AC etc. Maybe a legit PI Pharmacy but never a street vendor.

I'm not a fan of surprises so I do get regular before and after tests. I'm not going to say that I've been totally incident free but I've been at this a long time and never had anything that a jab or a week's tablets wouldn't fix. Hopefully not famous last words. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

I think I just got lucky with my female doc in Australia G.

No wife or partner at home to worry about, so that helps.

She actually gets it, that while I travel for business most of the time, the bulk of it is fondling fun.

She's single and drinks a lot. Has given up the smokes a while back.

Kinda down to earth, you might say.

Regular tests done and she knows what to look for.

Street tabs are definitely not recommended by her, including vitamin see & V. A lot are now coming out of India in mass production factories with no obvious regulations in place according to her.

_Phil.

[Goferring]

I was kinda thinking the same thing G and whether or not to bother.

My doc in Australia is amazing and she knows basically what I get up to as she prescribes me vitamin V all the time as she reckons the stuff on the street in Asia is dodgy.

So I'm sure she could assist. She does my bloods on average every three months, and surprisingly the liver's perfect. We check for everything including STD's.

However, I'm also wondering if that stuff works or is worth it.

(I haven't looked at Dr. Google yet).

Having said that, I've been doing the freelancers in The Phils for years now and have never had a problem.

Can you get it cheap in The Phils at Mercury Drug or similar, I wonder?

_ Phil.

I'd be interested if I can find a way that is reliable and confidential.

Most western countries now screen their international post for meds so the Online Pharmacies are not as reliable as before. I've had meds seized before and receiving numerous emails about them could be hard to explain.

I might look for a walk in clinic here. My family doc is a bit of a man hating femnazi so I wouldn't be surprised if my wife "accidentally" got to see my records. Not good indeed. There is no way I'd resort to buying off the street on Burgos, AC etc. Maybe a legit PI Pharmacy but never a street vendor.

I'm not a fan of surprises so I do get regular before and after tests. I'm not going to say that I've been totally incident free but I've been at this a long time and never had anything that a jab or a week's tablets wouldn't fix. Hopefully not famous last words. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

Am I the odd man out? I get 800 pics and videos sent to me everyday by chicks I have fucked and I never even look at them. The last thing I want is to be inundated by pics and videos of someone I have already done all that stuff with live. Giving someone money for that shit? Never!

I missed seeing this previously. I'm the opposite; if she wants to send something, great. If not, I have some precious memories.

These are the things a fella puts up with in Phils.

The big difference is that both of you keep your play phones active and meet girls 24/7/365. I put my phone away after returning and literally don't even turn it on until heading back to the airport for my next trip. I will have a few unread messages but the old girls already know it's a pointless exercise and the new girls soon give up.

As I said before, I'm upfront with all girls that there is no point messaging me while I'm away. The difference is that I actually do it. I've lost count of the number of guys I've met that say there's no point chatting while home but they always end up doing the whole LDR deal and surprise surprise it costs $$$ or ends in disaster.

Enjoy. G.

[A Traveler]

Since we're talking about Prep: I just received an email from Prep Online. It says they are resuming shipments to the US. The price now includes tariffs.

[A Traveler]

Trav, that's why I do the freelancer option.

A bit more groundwork involved, but always profitable.

I'm basically calling the shots and bypassing the middle-men, so both parties are better off.

It's generally 3 k take it or leave it, with a free feed and drinks thrown in and payment in the morning to ensure a long-time encounter.

(95% take it).

If they're exceptional, I'll slip another 500 - 1 k into their bra on the way out.

Within ten minutes a message comes through via Whatsapp.

"We meet again tonight, Sir?

As long as you're still having fun, that's all that matters.

Just my experience_ Phil.

What's your preferred method of finding freelancers here? Tan Tan? Date in Asia? Pina Love?

[A Traveler]

On day two I traveled to Perimeter. I always have to make an effort to get down there, since I refuse to engage with the trike guys on Walking St. I probably picked a bad time, Sunday at 2 pm. All the girls must have been in church, as the bars were practically empty, with maybe only one or two older ladies. The exemption was Garfield's Last Stand, which had about a dozen ladies standing in a corner when I poked my head in. None of them really appealed to me though.

On a side note, who names these places? What does "Garfield's Last Stand" even mean?

On the way back I checked out the new City Side mall, which is now accessible from Don Juico Ave. What a stupid mall. It's mostly emtpy. You have to keep going outside and back inside and up and down escalators to get to the different building. There's nothing there of value.

I went out again on Walking / Red St around six. I wanted to check out the new Arcadia. Ten years ago this place was a sight to behold, packed to the gills with 18,19, 20 year olds in bikinis and skirts. I managed to pull a 19 year old for a multi day GFE. Then covid hit and it became Genesis, a Korean-style place, but it did still have some pretties.

Under the new name it's still Korean-style, but all the customers were white, and the mama who sat next to me said the customers were mostly white. The girls wear their own outfits, and they were standing and active the whole time I was there, not sitting around on their phones. There are some cuties. One with glasses caught my eye, which I'm a sucker for. Also another I liked appeared. But in these K bars the girls don't look at you and smile, so you have to make an effort to call one down and hope for the best. Since it was the first bar of the night I didn't feel like doing that.

I checked out Shooters, which had super-hot girls the last couple times I was there. But not so tonight.

I was afraid to go in Lollipop, because I took a girl six months ago. She was shy and reserved and said she didn't barfine. I had to go back a couple times until she would barfine with me. She said it was her first barfine. I take what these girls say with a grin of salt, but it seemed plausible. I think she liked me, because she kept messaging me after I left AC, and I eventually ignored her messages.

She was still there, and has gone full ho. It was hard to recognize her because her hair was dyed and styled. She was aggressive and talkative, gave me lap dances and grabbed my crotch. She even brought up a three way, but it would be with one of the ugly girls there. She was the only attractive one at the time. It was kind of a turn off, considering how demure she was. Maybe it was a mistake, but I did barfine her, because it's nice to see a familiar face. The boom boom was fine. She didn't pretend to like me and gave a bit of a porn star performance.

Day 3 was a day off. I just visited the My Skin clinic around the corner from Walking St. The Dermatologist is competent and reasonably price.

I like to have a plan. Tonight I'll check out the new Atlantis, then go back to Arcadia to try my luck with either glasses or the or beauty.

[A Traveler]

Regarding where I got the PREP meds, I used this website: https://preponline.st/buy-prep/, and it was legit. I've used it for a few year. It takes some time for meds to arrive, since they shipped from either India, HK or Singapore, I can't remember. If you're American, I'm not sure if it still works due to the administration's tariffs and the removal of the de minimums exception for shipments worth less than $50. I got mine early last year.

Note that the website has changed three times. They emailed me with the new address each time. So sign up to their mailing list to keep up.

[WestCoast1]

Am I the odd man out? I get 800 pics and videos sent to me everyday by chicks I have fucked and I never even look at them. The last thing I want is to be inundated by pics and videos of someone I have already done all that stuff with live. Giving someone money for that shit? Never!

I missed seeing this previously. I'm the opposite; if she wants to send something, great. If not, I have some precious memories.

But the things they say when messaging. Too funny sometimes. This is one my regulars in Malate. She's been having breakups with the boyfie since they got together just before covid. About twice a year they break up. That lasts 2 weeks, followed by make-up sex. Last year they broke up mid-year, he blocked her on social media (as usual), and they never got back together. A real shame for me, as she has gone from being a good regular provider, to a regular horny provider.

These are the things a fella puts up with in Phils.