Angeles City

[Goferring]

Because despite popular opinion, they do not have to do that to survive. If any monger learned anything from Covid, then that should have been it.

Agreed. The cost of sitting around home all day is minimal. They return not because they have spent money on cost of living but uncles and boyfriends have drained it all.

G.

[Mr Enternational]

Apparently we are now coming into high season and so the hired holes return after their lengthy hiatus. I am not sure how the hookers can afford to burger off for the guts of a month

Because despite popular opinion, they do not have to do that to survive. If any monger learned anything from Covid, then that should have been it.

[Jarango]

At breakfast today, the mamasan told me the wildebeest are on the way back after their Christmas migration to the provinces. Apparently we are now coming into high season and so the hired holes return after their lengthy hiatus. I am not sure how the hookers can afford to burger off for the guts of a month but perhaps one of my 19 year old 10/10's exemplifies. Her boyfriend (wtf) is a retired Korean general. Seems Koreans are the best meal tickets these days.

Most Koreans are seedy looking and many of them have gone to seed before their time. Without Angeles they would be virgins. Very heavy Korean gangster scene here. Quiet but menacing and far too many.

Ex military goons floating to slurp your noodles in peace.

[ThreeInches]

I say the same thing, but guys insist because it is sex work, it should be paid as multiples of what regular people make.

Whos not going to pay $20 for a cheeseburger if their is a pussy in it?

[Mr Enternational]

This kind a defeats the purpose of why I frequent the Philippines I catch girls on their first few days in the bars or at lease first few weeks.

Korean managers always try to push the MOST fucked girl in the bar stating that "they always get bar fined". Why the hell do I want to fuck the MOST fucked girl in the bar?

Man this happens in every thread. You get a new girl who requires minimal money. You are cheap and the girl has to be ugly. After she is out there a while and becomes popular and she is booked up and been ran through and guys are giving her all kind of money, she is all of a sudden a top looker and knows her worth. Yeah, give me the new low-key chick.

[Mr Enternational]

Women with micky mouse degrees get 500 PHP a day here, the cal centre lot clear about 900 PHP a say and you are paying farm hands multiples of that to do a runner.

I say the same thing, but guys insist because it is sex work, it should be paid as multiples of what regular people make.

[Jarango]

Sounds like either or is a bar owner?

I hang out with the non p4 p locals and they turn me off the hired holes. Lots of nice women here but life is very hard. The prettys are snapped up by rich foreigners / sponsors and my own gifts were refused, showing we have not a clue what the real rules are. The cops hauled in a neighbour for giving a hooker a hard time. She followed him back to the nest and sent the SWAT in on him. A lot to be said for giving this entire shot show a miss.

[KumuMan]

What a frickin fake moron!

Q Bar was never and is not a Korean bar. Mostly Westerners. Even in Avalon Bar during this weekend, the crowd was mostly Westerners. Obviously, you've never been there.

Madonna Bar? Yes, I agree it is a Korean bar. Has a Korean owner, Korean papasan, and mostly Korean clientele. LOL! But bar hopping there on January 18? LOL! It was closed this weekend! It just reopened on the 19th.

But fuck the Madonna Bar! As I tried to enter around opening time of 5 pm, the doorman said there is a mandatory drink required just to view. I was going to buy a beer anyways, but I hate to be forced. I'm not sure if that's the policy for the entire night, or just opening time. Later during the night, they had the curtains fully opened. Not that many girls. Also, I asked him what the barfines were. It was about the same as before, between 6K to 12K. I hope Madonna goes out of business. I hate that business model. Highest barfines for girls that aren't that good. Most of the girls are similar to what you can get at other bars. In caveat though, I haven't seen the top 2 12K "Angels" (I was told that's what the 12K girls are called).

There are some good aspects of Madonna Bar though. I spoke with a semi-regular that used to work at Madonna. She said the girls are "required" to performed for multiple shots. She said you have to do it, even if it is for 5 times. I asked her if the girls are allowed to reject customers. She said it depends. With the issues of human trafficking, I thought the girls would be protected. She said if the papasan hears about it, he will get mad, and ask the girl if they think are are princesses. She said the girls can be fired. But I'm guessing if you are in demand, you won't be. My semi-regular girl isn't that cute. LOL! What the waitress told me a few months ago matches; she said the girls are guaranteed to stay with you long time. With those prices, they should be.

For those that are interested, the Dragon Bar is for sale. It is currently advertised in the Blue Book for 17 million pesos (negotiable). 10 year lease. For a failing business, that is a lot of money. That American that bought that bar is an idiot. Why in the world would an American buy a Korean Bar. It has a bad location, but it was THE top Korean bar a few years ago.

Sounds like either or is a bar owner?

[KumuMan]

Women with micky mouse degrees get 500 PHP a day here, the cal centre lot clear about 900 PHP a say and you are paying farm hands multiples of that to do a runner.

That came out of left field I agree?

[ThreeInches]

I haven't seen the top 2 12K "Angels" (I was told that's what the 12K girls are called).

This kind a defeats the purpose of why I frequent the Philippines I catch girls on their first few days in the bars or at lease first few weeks.

Korean managers always try to push the MOST fucked girl in the bar stating that "they always get bar fined". Why the hell do I want to fuck the MOST fucked girl in the bar?

So I told him I liked new girls and she kind of switched gears. Evidentially that is what these guys like community vetted girls. Personally I am after the constant infux of fresh meat but to each his own. There are plenty of VIP girls I personally got on the VIP list they and the Korean guys who got my sloppy seconds can thank me for that. I catch them early break them in and over multiple bar fines this creates a snowball effects and I move on to the next fresh batch. Its odd how when I'm balls deep in these women the Koreans are not interested but after they get broken in my old bar fines are fully booked.

[Jarango]

Women with micky mouse degrees get 500 PHP a day here, the cal centre lot clear about 900 PHP a say and you are paying farm hands multiples of that to do a runner.

[GreenBud]

Bar hop 18,1,2025.

Korean oriented bars, Atlantis bar, QBar, avalon bar, monsoon bar, gold moon bar madonna bar again very short on girls, what girls were working were not great at all but a step up from the western bar girls, korean punter numbers well down, saw no other westerners in these bars at all.

What a frickin fake moron!

Q Bar was never and is not a Korean bar. Mostly Westerners. Even in Avalon Bar during this weekend, the crowd was mostly Westerners. Obviously, you've never been there.

Madonna Bar? Yes, I agree it is a Korean bar. Has a Korean owner, Korean papasan, and mostly Korean clientele. LOL! But bar hopping there on January 18? LOL! It was closed this weekend! It just reopened on the 19th.

But fuck the Madonna Bar! As I tried to enter around opening time of 5 pm, the doorman said there is a mandatory drink required just to view. I was going to buy a beer anyways, but I hate to be forced. I'm not sure if that's the policy for the entire night, or just opening time. Later during the night, they had the curtains fully opened. Not that many girls. Also, I asked him what the barfines were. It was about the same as before, between 6K to 12K. I hope Madonna goes out of business. I hate that business model. Highest barfines for girls that aren't that good. Most of the girls are similar to what you can get at other bars. In caveat though, I haven't seen the top 2 12K "Angels" (I was told that's what the 12K girls are called).

There are some good aspects of Madonna Bar though. I spoke with a semi-regular that used to work at Madonna. She said the girls are "required" to performed for multiple shots. She said you have to do it, even if it is for 5 times. I asked her if the girls are allowed to reject customers. She said it depends. With the issues of human trafficking, I thought the girls would be protected. She said if the papasan hears about it, he will get mad, and ask the girl if they think are are princesses. She said the girls can be fired. But I'm guessing if you are in demand, you won't be. My semi-regular girl isn't that cute. LOL! What the waitress told me a few months ago matches; she said the girls are guaranteed to stay with you long time. With those prices, they should be.

For those that are interested, the Dragon Bar is for sale. It is currently advertised in the Blue Book for 17 million pesos (negotiable). 10 year lease. For a failing business, that is a lot of money. That American that bought that bar is an idiot. Why in the world would an American buy a Korean Bar. It has a bad location, but it was THE top Korean bar a few years ago.

[PhilJoy]

Have to agree 100%, especially over the last few years, in truth none of the fun of yesteryear remains, no flesh to be seen, very few girl smiles to be seen, crazy girl prices, crazy lady drink prices (small juice most times).

Hi Napa,

I must say I have to agree.

However, I don't think it only applies to AC.

Makati is a rort when it comes to LD's and the like.

In the end, you're paying what you would at home without a guarantee of a decent outcome.

I love the Filipinas, so I'm not giving up on the place anytime soon.

I'm always thinking outside the box and bypass the typical girly bar scene and the results have been very satisying.

Additionally, many guys have recently posted about their adventures to other areas of The Phils and how that has worked out well for them.

I've found that if you put a bit of effort in, you'll find some diamonds in the most unlikely places.

Once you hook up with them, keep in touch via WhatsApp etc. And you'll have a contact ready when you next return to their area / province.

_ Phil.

[Goferring]

Been using dating apps for years with success, like ThaiFriendly in Thailand and Pinalove in The Phills. Pinalove worked well in Manila and other areas, but in Angeles I just can't figure out how to select the correct location area on the search filter: the drop-down menu shows Manila and other cities / provinces, but not Angeles. The closest I can find is Pampanga. But that doesn't work well either because that only shows about 5 girls under 30 years old. What am I missing here? Why isn't Angeles in the locations?

Pinalove's Search function isn't the best. Girls may be in the same location but listed differently depending on how she describes herself or how PL identifies her GPS location.

Time to brush up on your PI geography. LOL. A girl in the area might be described as Pampanga, Angeles, Balibago, Santol etc.

PL accepts cities, location and 'near me'. If you are in town try the near me function and reduce the radius. If you're not, then name a hotel or similar. So it has a discrete place to work off.

Enjoy. G.

[TravelingMan3]

My thoughts on AC as someone who lives in the Mecca of the Asian mongering scene at least (Pattaya). My first trip to AC was in 2015 and even though it wasn't the glory days you still had mega gogos like Dollhouse and Atlantis that had what felt like at least 60 chicks minimum 20 hot ones each night. You go to these places now it's no atmosphere and it's mostly slop leftover chicks. The no atmosphere comment is meant for most of the bars not just the two listed there just no vibe to the place. Then these days chicks say no they don't want to go with you a lot more than in years past so now when your doing a bar crawl around and finally find the one cute enough after two hours of drinking and searching she say no I don't want to go. That is a killer, if this was years ago from the day when I first started going and there were at 10 chicks in her bar they you would take instead then no big deal nowadays that's a big problem.

Now for most that's enough to keep them away however I'll be back in April as I don't want to do Songkran in Pattaya I won't be spending my full time in AC but instead using it to get to where I'm really going and I'll see how it looks. To me part of the reason guys still think AC is even a good mongering destination at this point is because the girls speak English. Chicks not speaking English isn't a big deal to so I rate places like Thailand ahead of it of course but even Indonesia is better cheaper better looking girls and a number of venues to find them at.

Back on AC quality maybe way down but I wrote about this in my report this past July I did see attractive chicks it's just that they all were at Mega Dance and they weren't customers but in fact staff who work at the club. I didn't investigate whether or not they were available and or for how much.