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  1. #51

    GFE Escorts speaking English in BCN.


  2. #50

    Mongere's Great Madrid low end breakdown.

    A fantastic account of how and where to find value in Madrid. Very selflessly contributed by Mongerer. Thanks for the generousity of spirit!

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...drid&p=2222530#post2222530.

  3. #49

    Madrid. Pigmallion Bar and Indies Pick Up.


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  5. #47

    Correct link to Madrid Insider Tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Bijou  [View Original Post]
    Eddythe Eagle2 has provided some very useful information on getting to some venues using local transport and where to meet some of the girls who work at Estark Whiskeria outside of the bar.

    http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=197636
    Here is the correct link http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1917636.

  6. #46

    Insider Tips for Madrid

    Eddythe Eagle2 has provided some very useful information on getting to some venues using local transport and where to meet some of the girls who work at Estark Whiskeria outside of the bar.

    http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=197636

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    CDS Romanian good service providers!

    In the last 3 months I've been to Estark, Flowers, Vive and Factory Air in Madrid, and Glass Palace, Scandalo, Fontana and Milady Palace in Malaga and on the Costa del Sol. There are less, but still a lot of Romanians in Spanish clubs. The greatest sadness of all of this is that in fact IMHO their service levels are generally excellent. My favorite in Malaga is Melissa in Scandalo. Romanian, stunning, terrific service and a lovely girl. Second favorite there is Savannah. Romanian. Great service. Favorite in Estark is Ana. Blonde, great figure, great service and lovely girl and. Romanian. Favorite by a mile in Factory. See recent post. Julia - romanian and one of the best looking girls I've ever been with anywhere.
    Gracias PayForIt. In the spirit of open mindedness I shall put some of your CDS Romanian testimonials to the test in 2 weeks time! Any further descriptions, more detailed, of these.

    Chicas would be appreciated. Wouldn't want an impostor taking their place and leaving the room bow legged and bandy! Looking forward to the pre-match Q. & A. Already.

  10. #42

    Romanians in FKKs and Spain

    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe1976X  [View Original Post]
    Well done for posting your Madrid sexploits PL. Your entertainment by EEs and Romanians seems a strange choice. Surely they are poor service providers in Germany too. Every time you do a pre-session in depth Q&A with them they lie, deceive, cheat and then try and up sell in the room and have very little commitment to a good service. Compared with Latinas and Brazilians in particular who generally don't have these traits maybe with the exception of a proportion of Colombians!

    So in Germany are the EEs, Moldovan pretending to be Romanians and ROs providing genuine quality services in those big clubs? Are there many Latinas in these clubs?
    I got to the FKKs a lot. I can tell you that in my experience more than 80% of the girls there are Romanians. There are very few Latinas though lots of girls say they are Spanish (until you speak Spanish to them and they look horrified and confess to their true origin). They will also plead to be from Italy, half Italian, half Turkish and so on.

    However those traits are also in Romanian girls in all the Spanish clubs. In the last 3 months I've been to Estark, Flowers, Vive and Factory Air in Madrid, and Glass Palace, Scandalo, Fontana and Milady Palace in Malaga and on the Costa del Sol. There are less, but still a lot of Romanians in Spanish clubs. The greatest sadness of all of this is that in fact IMHO their service levels are generally excellent. My favorite in Malaga is Melissa in Scandalo. Romanian, stunning, terrific service and a lovely girl. Second favorite there is Savannah. Romanian. Great service. Favorite in Estark is Ana. Blonde, great figure, great service and lovely girl and. Romanian. Favorite by a mile in Factory. See recent post. Julia - romanian and one of the best looking girls I've ever been with anywhere.

    Latino girls are more passionate but their upselling is notorious. Particularly, as you say, Columbians who always want to do Charlie. Not for me either.

    This is all very sad. There is nothing wrong with Romanian girls or people. They are very nice. I am sad for them that they wish to hide their nationality and I'll be very happy to continue to session with my favourites in all these clubs. All Romanian apart from Elizabeth in FKK Oase. Hungarian!

  11. #41

    Madrid and Spain better options.

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    The fact that I keep going back to this to get the addresses for Google maps tells me that it should be featured here for convenience. Well done PL.
    http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?788-Madrid&p=1807678&viewfull=1#post1807678
    Well done for posting your Madrid sexploits PL. Your entertainment by EEs and Romanians seems a strange choice. Surely they are poor service providers in Germany too. Every time you do a pre-session in depth Q&A with them they lie, deceive, cheat and then try and up sell in the room and have very little commitment to a good service. Compared with Latinas and Brazilians in particular who generally don't have these traits maybe with the exception of a proportion of Colombians!

    So in Germany are the EEs, Moldovan pretending to be Romanians and ROs providing genuine quality services in those big clubs? Are there many Latinas in these clubs?

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    Madrid addresses

    The fact that I keep going back to this to get the addresses for Google maps tells me that it should be featured here for convenience. Well done PL.
    http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?788-Madrid&p=1807678&viewfull=1#post1807678

    Quote Originally Posted by PussyLiccker  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for all the info guys. Here is my report.

    I've only done club visits, and will sequence the clubs from best to worst in terms of optics level of the girls. They were Mon and Tues visits.

    1. Vive. Calle Marques De Viana 15, Madrid

    In the city center of Madrid. Only drink voucher for 17 Euros entry, no foods. Restaurant on the left side of the entrance if hungry. It is indeed the largest of the clubs I've visited, and the largest LU of all the clubs. Girls are dressed. Meaning dressed in dresses (I've attaced an image of give an idea of what they typically would wear).

    You will see a big yellow Vive sign outside the club. Walk through the open main entrance with the bouncer standing by, and on the left is a booth to pay for entry. 17 Euros to enter, and you will be handed a drink voucher to exchange for a drink at the bar inside the club. After paying, made my way through the doors, and low and behold a quite large interior like a big warehouse sized, high ceiling ect,. There are big screens above displaying videos. Against the wall, higher level, the stage for WGs to do a strip dance every so often. One of the girls I took seems to regularly do strip dances. In the middle are two enclosed rectangular shaped bars. Around the bar are chairs, and girls and punters mingling, and drinking. On the right there is a minibar, and next to it a vip type area with a stripper pole, and couches. On that side, there will be a line of girls sitting in chairs or standing around. Others walking around trying looking for their victims. LOL.

    Most of the girls I've talked to were Moldavians, Romanians, and some Latinas from Brazil. The Latinas from Brazil were well endowed with big assets (rather large tits and big asses), very vuluptious. Some above average lookers. Good number of older types, but late 20's (around 27) seems to be the avg age. Good mix as far as the color of hair shapes and sizes. Estimate Mon 80 girls and Tues more with 100.

    Everybody are wearing regular clothing (Suits, casuals, etc.), and as mentioned girls wearing dressed. Below middle to middle aged crowd. You get some idea of the silhouette of the girl as the dresses are tight around the body. The girls are not really pushy, but they are trying to get you to session so, they will do what they can to get your interest up, like touching you or dancing, grinding against you, chatting you up. I didn't get any attitude from girls for refusal.

    The pricing is 100 for the girl and 10 goes to the club for a 30 min session (So, 1 HR would be twice that, 220). There is a door on the same wall as the entrance on the other side, that door leads to the lockers where girls have their things. One girl got her bag out of there. And then you follow her down, and you will find the desk where you pay 110, and the girl gets her 100. Although girls prefer 1 HR rooms, 30 min seems common. The room has a shower inside, so you can shower before the session if you haven't done so already. The girl carries a card that she must charge every time to use the lights in the room. 5 Euros to charge.

    I went with two girls, and service was below avg. My standards are in comparison to all my experiences in German clubs. One girl did BBBJ, and the other CBJ. At this club, didn't ask girls for their service. Didn't attempt to negotiate.

    Alisa? 27 Blond Ro sporting a blue dress. More than slim, medium build, be-cups. She dances on stage from time to time so you can know her body before taking a room. She doesn't seem to mingle with the men on Mon. Friendly, but we all know that's not a sure indicator of a good session in the room. Half hour session. Pretty standard. Minimal kissing, BBBJ ok.

    Anna. Dark Brunette Ro. 27 Light skinned. Skinny, A-cups. Liked her look from a distance, but closer up, you can see she didn't look as pretty faced as I thought. CBJ, wtf. Mechanical. Not worth it.

    Based on two sampling, and the mediocre sessions, the high rate is not worth it. I tried to pick the best looking ones there, and I can't call the girls real stunners as I've have seen quite a lot punting at various spots. It's the biggest and best of Madrid, but doesn't mean the LU is spectacular. Just decent.

    Mon, I got there around 9 which seems too early for the day. Few girls around compared to 1 when I made my way back, and saw the large crowd of men and women.

    2. Flower's. Calle Rosa de Lima, 2 28290 Las Rozas, Madrid

    Located far out from the other clubs on the North West of Madrid. Saw the sign for Flower's as I got close, but didn't see an obvious sign for Flower's, but I saw an entrance way on the side of the hotel with a bouncer on the table. Didn't pay entry, and walked down the stairs. Walk down the stairs, and you see the bar at the center, twice the size of Whiskeria. Like a sports bar, with soccar game on big screens on both ends. Got a drink (I believe it's required) and sat at the bar, and Nicole approached.

    Session-ed with Nicole. Blond blue eye'd girl from Valencia with another friend from the same location. She proposed anal if I session with her, so I decided to try. 75 Euros including anal and BBBJ. Mechanical, and she told me 1 finish and that's it. I finished rather quickly since I was backed up a bit, but her not being a GFE, no after sex cuddling or any of that. Pretty standard mechanical session.

    The room the girl takes you to is the room she stays.

    There good number a Latinas there, and all shades. There is also a Japanese girl there if Asian is your thing. Optically, it's like a smaller version of Vive. Vive just has heaps of girls in comparison. Not as many as Whiskeria at peak times. Estimate 20 girls on Tues. 75 Euros pricing for girls seems to be static as I didn't run into girls that lower the pricing like Estark Whiskeria or Factory Air.

    3. Estark Whiskeria. Carretera de Villaverde a Vallecas, km. 3.5, 28053 Madrid

    It's part of Hotel Diana Plus which is a big one in Madrid. You park on the left parking area infront of the hotel as you enter the gate. Walk up the stairs and you will see a flashing neon sign. Flashing Estark and Whiskeria on and off. Walk though the door, and you will see the bar, and notice the smaller spaced area. On the right of the bar, the entrance way to the rooms where girls are staying at. At first, I didn't know I was obligated to buy a drink although I saw others holding a drink until a bounder told me I buy or I leave. 9 Euros for a coke. 2 Euros for Sheets, condom if you take the girl to the room. Not quite sure, but I believe you are required to buy a drink everytime you take a girl to the room? Or was it that I didn't buy a drink so they required that I buy one before I take her up? If I'm only allowed to buy one drink, not bad. I pay 2 Euros every time as the girls lower their rate there. Girl's rate offered from 50-70 Euros.

    There are older girls around 30's to young ones around 20. I saw one dressed in bikini, and others wearing dress, jean shorts, etc. With tight dresses or if she is uncovering her belly, you can get an idea if she has a belly. Belly is a big turnoff for me. Estimate Mon 15 girls, 25 Tues.

    Session-ed Beatrice, 20. Black haired skinny A-cup pretty faced white skinned Romy had jean shorts, and top showing off her body. She's probably the best session of the trip, which isn't saying much. Not GFE, quite inexprienced mechanical. BBBJ, pussy sliding, DFK. Believe it or not, Beatrice was the best session of the trip! Although the rate she offered was 60, she offered 1hr 100(offered CIM if I extended), and two hrs 150. But, I had no interest in continuing the mediocre session.

    4. Hotel Factory Air. Avenida Gumersindo Llorente 19, Madrid 28052

    Didn't pay entry both days I visited. Like the other bars, punters sitting at the bar with drinks. Didn't buy a drink. Much larger than Estark Whiskeria or Flower's. Large warehouse sized like Vive, but smaller.

    Majority seems to be Romanians. Sitting along the right wall and around the bar. The left bar side consists of the older type Latinas with Romanians on the right side. There was a girl met that claiming to be Bulgarian. Estimate about 30 girls on Tuesday night.

    A older type blond lady I'd estimate around 35 yrs would come by and would try to entance me for a long time despite I could not communicate with her. She offered 50 for the room. The girls didn't attract me on both visits. Estimate Mon 20 girls, and Tues 35 girls.

    4. Luxor Hotel. Avenidad Andaluca 144 - Poligono La Postura - 28343 Valdemoro, Madrid

    South of Madrid. Walked in and was about the size of Flower's. 10 for entry with a drink. 5 fat girls around bar on Tuesday night. The worst LU of them all. Not doable at all. Walked out in 10 min. Estimate Tues 10 girls.

    Summary

    Overall, Estark Whiskeria and Flower's seems to be worth visiting for the rate and the girls there. Luxor doesn't seem worth visiting. Vive is quite expensive, and even with highest level of optics there, can't say I'd visit again as my stats were quite low as far as the services. Didn't care to sample more given the high rate.

    I realized I was quite spoiled punting in Germany, and was spoiled for looks and services, and did not think Vive was club full of stunners as been said. Best LU in Madrid, yes, but I can't say I saw real stunners there to be honest.

    In general, no service I've received from the girls were GFE. All were quite mechanical except two that were slightly better. BBBJ seems to be on the offer commonly, but at Vive I've run into a girl that I didn't ask prior that only does CBJ.

    I'm starting to get why P46 takes place at a hotel in Madrid. The girls generally stays at the hotel. There is a shower in side to wash up.

    Hotel I stayed in was Hotel Mercader which was 3 min drive from Estark Wiskeria, and was good base for several clubs that were 4-15 min in vicinity except Flower's. Nice rooms at a good rate. Pain in the ass to find as my TomTom didn't recognize the address. Also, people don't speak English so getting directions was a challenge.

    Calle Eje 2-7 A Poligono Alimentario Mercamadrid,18 Madrid Madrid 28053.

    Ideal time to start punting for me was starting at 7 pm on most places. Estark Whiskeria, Factory Air has enough girls around that time, but Flower's I believe later. And of course Vive get's going around 11 pm I believe.

    Tips for those using GPS to find the places:

    Luxor hotel Madrid.

    Avenidad Andaluca 144 - Poligono La Postura - 28343 Valdemoro, Madrid.

    The city you should put in for the above address is Valdemoro instead of Madrid. I use TomTom and as I type it would say Avendidad De Andalucia. Vive is in Madrid, so Madrid is the city you put in.

  13. #39

    Massage places on Costa Del Sol

    Nice post on Massage places on Costa Del Sol with links by Payforit.

    http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1801313

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    Massage places on Costa Del Sol

    Nice post on Massage places on Costa Del Sol with links.

    http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1801313

  15. #37

    Madrid venues (3/15) by So Happy

    Here is a useful summary of some venues in Madrid:

    http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1700533

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