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  1. #24462
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    Just my two cents.

    Just my opinion but regardless it won't change any of us. When it comes to pussy there is really no real logic to what people say or do? I've seen people of all professionals and I. Q. Try to justify why they do the things they do but in any normal situation wouldn't use the reasoning as they would for pussy. The reasoning is as old as the profession itself that is why I jokingly use and call Thailand, not the Land of Smile, but Land of Stupidity even the best smartest succumb.
    Enjoy and good luck fellas.
    Totally agree with you sir. Mongering is not work but a hobby we all share. It is not necessary that every time you will get to bang a chica of the specifications you like or the for the price you think is correct. Better to go with the flow and in the end enjoying this hobby is more important than all the looks and prices and services discussed over and over again. Afterall even the hookers are human. You win some, you lose some.

  2. #24461
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    Just my two cents.

    Just my 2 cents, nothing I have said is going to change anything it goes on just like the oldest profession. Enjoy and good luck fellas.
    Great read. For guys like me who have just discovered LOS, I understand why we go stupid. But we will eventually see through the BS.

    I treat these things like the weather. I don't care what the weather forecast is (unless its a tornado, hurricane or some other disaster), I still get out of bed and try to have a bit of fun.

  3. #24460
    Just my two cents.

    Just my opinion but regardless it won't change any of us. When it comes to pussy there is really no real logic to what people say or do? I've seen people of all professionals and I. Q. Try to justify why they do the things they do but in any normal situation wouldn't use the reasoning as they would for pussy. The reasoning is as old as the profession itself that is why I jokingly use and call Thailand, not the Land of Smile, but Land of Stupidity even the best smartest succumb.

    All interesting and valid but reading present and in the past since this site and others started it is the same argument like a cheap suit it goes out of style then comes back never fails. Here is a simple example people talk about " beauty is in the eye of the beholder, another mans trash is another man treasure " etc etc then thereafter say and start up again and again about looks and price. It is as everyone have dementia or Alzheimer's the conversation is the same over and over again why? Why because we are talking about pussy!

    As far as I'm concern once you put a number or label something you are stuck. She is a stunner? She is a 6. 5 7. 0? They got to be 19-23 years old? The ratio of men is greater than the women? Japanese / Koreans like a certain look Whites another or I can't compete? Too old too young? 500 or 1000 baht for Beach Road girls or ladies? They have HIV? 2000 baht you can only get trash? Pattaya isn't what it use to be not the same as my last trip?

    Once you set a goal, have a list or criteria you are lost, it becomes harder to find! you are never satisfied.

    Pussy, will drive you crazy and for some not too far off? Yes, it is becoming work because people have made it work as I cited above. Nothing personal but I visited a number of G-clubs and came away with a blank, but good report.

    The reason guys in general don't like going shopping with girlfriend or wife is because it is too much damn WORK! They got to go into every store, touch everything on every single rack, reasoning for everything just like above, in the end hours wasted get back into the car out of the lot and bang bumper to bumper traffic now will miss the game I've been waiting all week to watch. Just makes you want to just stay home and be alone.

    Personally, I glad I'm getting old and right now a bit tired as noted just too much work. Glad I'm not on vacation since time seem to just stand still, if I don't have it today I can have it tomorrow majority of the time I pass it is just too much work at times and I don't have any or all of the so call criteria's. These days go out and just keep it simple and if I draw a blank it is just a blank there is always tomorrow?

    Just my 2 cents, nothing I have said is going to change anything it goes on just like the oldest profession. Enjoy and good luck fellas.

  4. #24459
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Well I guess so when you got shit like this happening. Chick in Bangkok comes to stay with me for 1000 baht when she is in Pattaya. She said that in Bangkok guys are paying from 3000 - 5000 baht just for a chick to go to dinner with them.
    LOL. She didn't get the memo. She says, "Dubai, American" customers give her and other girls 3000-5000 baht and sometimes for doing nothing but have dinner. Apparently, even if they are lying (who knows in this case), many Thai P4P girls are unfamiliar with this popularly held notion that it is supposed to be the "Japanese" who are the low-demand over-payers in this grand show.

  5. #24458
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Have been making my monthly G club visits this week.

    Really nothing too special except my favorite girl.

    Camel Toe. A couple of girls that were Soi 6 level but dominated by a Japanese guy who hoarded 5 girls. Maybe 12 girls there. Difficult to catch a motorbike or taxi leaving the bar.

    Heavens. Wow has this place gone downhill quickly. My understanding is most of the girls have left. About 10 girls.

    Passion. About 15 girls. Best one being one that left Heavens. Compared to other G clubs except The Den and kit Cat, this bar from my limited experience is very low mileage in what you get from a girl for a ladydrink. No HJ, girls don't strip, only mouth kissing. No DFK.

    Kinnaree. About 40 girls. Too much of a sausage fest during high season. Newbies may find some girls hot but nothing for me here. Same girls for a very long time.

    Pirates. Maybe 8 girls. Some of the nice girls have been missing since New Year. Nothing special here. Still have one girl with top gogo quality face but big butt and doesn't seem friendly at all. Saw a Korean guy come in and out of the room with her in under 5 minutes. No lie! I'm assuming that included shower time.

    Club 4 or 007 - don't remember which is which. 8 girls. 1 was ok. Bought her a drink. Sat in the sofabed booth. Absolutely useless. What a dud! Why did she call me into the bar if she was going to be such a useless tit? Left halfway into her first drink. I don't have time to waste with useless girls like this.

    Jade House. About 20 girls. A couple would have looked ok 10 years ago. I have a friend working here. Not hot but she's fun so I visit once in a while. Decent food served Wed-Sun. Some days free, some days with 300 baht in drinks.

    On a related note, has anyone been to Seven Club on LK Pavillion off 3rd Road? Saw a listing on Love Pattaya but I swear I have never spotted this bar. Been to Geisha Bar a few times and never seen a Seven Club. Will check it out. Also, there are a couple of bars on 3rd Road. One is called Pimp Club or something like that. Is that a G club, a nightclub?
    Awesome run down my friend!

    Any news on the two new clubs that have opened up in Avenue mall (on the top level)?

  6. #24457
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    We've been saying for several years that getting laid in BKK is work. A far cry from the days when it was like shooting fish in a barrel.
    Well I guess so when you got shit like this happening. Chick in Bangkok comes to stay with me for 1000 baht when she is in Pattaya. She said that in Bangkok guys are paying from 3000 - 5000 baht just for a chick to go to dinner with them.
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  7. #24456

    Many ways to skin a cat.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Have been making my monthly G club visits this week.

    Really nothing too special except my favorite girl.

    Camel Toe. A couple of girls that were Soi 6 level but dominated by a Japanese guy who hoarded 5 girls. Maybe 12 girls there. Difficult to catch a motorbike or taxi leaving the bar.

    Heavens. Wow has this place gone downhill quickly. My understanding is most of the girls have left. About 10 girls.

    Passion. About 15 girls. Best one being one that left Heavens. Compared to other G clubs except The Den and kit Cat, this bar from my limited experience is very low mileage in what you get from a girl for a ladydrink. No HJ, girls don't strip, only mouth kissing. No DFK.

    Kinnaree. About 40 girls. Too much of a sausage fest during high season. Newbies may find some girls hot but nothing for me here. Same girls for a very long time.

    Pirates. Maybe 8 girls. Some of the nice girls have been missing since New Year. Nothing special here. Still have one girl with top gogo quality face but big butt and doesn't seem friendly at all. Saw a Korean guy come in and out of the room with her in under 5 minutes. No lie! I'm assuming that included shower time.

    Club 4 or 007 - don't remember which is which. 8 girls. 1 was ok. Bought her a drink. Sat in the sofabed booth. Absolutely useless. What a dud! Why did she call me into the bar if she was going to be such a useless tit? Left halfway into her first drink. I don't have time to waste with useless girls like this.

    Jade House. About 20 girls. A couple would have looked ok 10 years ago. I have a friend working here. Not hot but she's fun so I visit once in a while. Decent food served Wed-Sun. Some days free, some days with 300 baht in drinks.

    On a related note, has anyone been to Seven Club on LK Pavillion off 3rd Road? Saw a listing on Love Pattaya but I swear I have never spotted this bar. Been to Geisha Bar a few times and never seen a Seven Club. Will check it out. Also, there are a couple of bars on 3rd Road. One is called Pimp Club or something like that. Is that a G club, a nightclub?
    So, in summary: You hit 7 G Clubs this week and you were hard pressed to find a single G club with more than 1 young, under 25, cute girl (actual, not just looks under 25) ?

    In other words, if a particular G club has more than 3 guys there already, the 4th person coming in is left with the rest? BTW, the lighting in Kinnaree is very good at hiding the age and true looks of the girls there.

    Find me a girl who is even a 6 or 6. 5 , under 23 year old, in a beer bar, and I can transform that girl in under 1000 baht (new haircut / style, manicure, pedicure, new dress for 400 baht) into something pretty darn good that you will NOT find in a Kinnaree.

    The point being, for those who have time, and are here for more than 4-5 days and are not under time pressure, you can find some that are like finding a house with ' good bones ' that you can spruce up with some paint and minor inexpensive improvements, IF you like them and are good for you, and keep them for several days so that you have a good return. Unless of course, you are the catch and release ST seeking guy.

  8. #24455
    Have been making my monthly G club visits this week.

    Really nothing too special except my favorite girl.

    Camel Toe. A couple of girls that were Soi 6 level but dominated by a Japanese guy who hoarded 5 girls. Maybe 12 girls there. Difficult to catch a motorbike or taxi leaving the bar.

    Heavens. Wow has this place gone downhill quickly. My understanding is most of the girls have left. About 10 girls.

    Passion. About 15 girls. Best one being one that left Heavens. Compared to other G clubs except The Den and kit Cat, this bar from my limited experience is very low mileage in what you get from a girl for a ladydrink. No HJ, girls don't strip, only mouth kissing. No DFK.

    Kinnaree. About 40 girls. Too much of a sausage fest during high season. Newbies may find some girls hot but nothing for me here. Same girls for a very long time.

    Pirates. Maybe 8 girls. Some of the nice girls have been missing since New Year. Nothing special here. Still have one girl with top gogo quality face but big butt and doesn't seem friendly at all. Saw a Korean guy come in and out of the room with her in under 5 minutes. No lie! I'm assuming that included shower time.

    Club 4 or 007 - don't remember which is which. 8 girls. 1 was ok. Bought her a drink. Sat in the sofabed booth. Absolutely useless. What a dud! Why did she call me into the bar if she was going to be such a useless tit? Left halfway into her first drink. I don't have time to waste with useless girls like this.

    Jade House. About 20 girls. A couple would have looked ok 10 years ago. I have a friend working here. Not hot but she's fun so I visit once in a while. Decent food served Wed-Sun. Some days free, some days with 300 baht in drinks.

    On a related note, has anyone been to Seven Club on LK Pavillion off 3rd Road? Saw a listing on Love Pattaya but I swear I have never spotted this bar. Been to Geisha Bar a few times and never seen a Seven Club. Will check it out. Also, there are a couple of bars on 3rd Road. One is called Pimp Club or something like that. Is that a G club, a nightclub?

  9. #24454
    Quote Originally Posted by Haven123  [View Original Post]
    But, these days, it's a lot of work. And, that is what is so frustrating and I think Pattaya is fast reaching a point where the work (vs the money) is just becoming a very steep climb, IF you like me want under 23, GFE and solid 6-7. 5 with a rare 8. I for one find that the ones above 8 are just too full of themselves and simply not worth my time for a busted experience.
    We've been saying for several years that getting laid in BKK is work. A far cry from the days when it was like shooting fish in a barrel. I think long time residents like myself became quite spoiled in the late 90's early 00's.

  10. #24453

    How much clothing also factors into the pricing

    Quote Originally Posted by Haven123  [View Original Post]
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
    I'll say this much though, the less the girl has on and is showing me what she has to offer, the higher my payout might be. The more clothing, the more I question the body, the lower I offer.

  11. #24452
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    What exactly do you mean with this?
    I wonder if the average Thai girl knows what you mean with it.
    Why do you think they would not understand? A very common name for a Thai woman is Porn, which means blessing.

    I mean do not let something that may be good for you slide by for whatever reason. But nobody is going to try to break down what you mean. Most of running game is talking slick and showing confidence.

  12. #24451

    A couple of thoughts on the distribution curve (as I call it)

    IMO, nothing is 100 pc this or that in Pattaya (more so than anywhere else). One needs, IMO, to always keep in mind that you are looking at a mix, or a distribution of many types of girls, at all locations. IMO, a lot of the disagreements on this board is posters viewing or seeing things in a polarized way and not as a clear distribution curve.

    I don't think you can simply state that one place or any type of girl is this or that (meaning a sure thing for a target objective, whatever that might be for a specific guy) . Some examples from my own observation over many months in Pattaya (but I am far from being any kind of expert so please take it FWIW):

    1. There are beach road girls that do come to Insomnia or Ibar (but a lot more to say Lucifer or Red Car). Anyone who thinks that this is not the case is simply misinformed. Girls from massage places, beer bars, go gos, and regular girls (example , working at a hotel or even 7 Eleven) go to the discos (" to enjoy" their terminology) and are open to " going with man" , as they often refer to it.

    Now, I don't know what the distribution looks like, but I would guess less than 10 pc (but that's still a lot of girls) are from beach Road. Girls have specifically said they have in the past been at beach Road when they need some money ASAP.

    2. Not all girls at even the best go gos are what one would call go go material. As a matter of fact, based on my recent experience (which is very limited to say about 8 diff go gos in WS and LK Metro ), I would say a full 50 pc are VERY average, meaning a 6/6. 5 or below. Some are pretty poor lookers IMO. And yeah, this even applies to Imagine (what's up upper level). Maybe 20pc of a typical top quality go go , IMO, is worth bar fining.

    So, yes there is a distribution of 4's, 5's, 6's, 7's, 8's, a few 9's in all go gos.

    Most places have a fixed bar fine, some have multiple levels, but still, even in each level not all girls are equivalent.

    So, I would suggest not paying a steep bar fine for a 6 in a go go. And certainly don't pay 4 k.

    There are 6. 5 's and the occasional 7 even avail at Insomnia for 2 K LT, and, if you are very lucky even a 7 at a beer bar. I was lucky enough in the last 8 days to bar fine four 7's from a beer bar for anywhere from 350-700 and 2 K LT. After a lot of time and work searching. I would suggest smaller beer bars in Jomtien and even Simon complex and others nearby on 2nd RD.

    3. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but age is not. IMO! The vast majority of the girls at a G club like Kinnaree are definitely in their 30's. I am not paying for that cause I can get better in that age group in the US, some parts of Europe and in Latin America without a bar fine. Again, age distribution is all over the place at beer bars (so many 40 plus yo) and many go gos with 30 plus (do they need a boob job due to age and gravity). But one thing about the G clubs, like Kinnaree, they seem to have a better personality than the average girl at a top go go.

    4. Young 8. 5 's and 9's are very few and are mostly at the go gos and a sprinkling at Insomnia, IMO. However, IMO, there is no denying that in those venues they do prefer Korea's and Japanese by a long shot. Money will not make a diffrence and chances are not under 8 K. At Insomnia many will simply do the hand together gesture and just turn away or say they are busy or thank you. So, yes, again there is a clear distribution in this sense that has become more pronounced in the last couple of years.

    5. Yes, there is more demand than the supply of girls, at all venues. But as I (and Mr ENT) would note, you only need one (unless you are Sexmachine's wingman (who I now refer to as "2 IstheMinimum". So, the distribution is what it is. If when you are there, that one - that will fit your bill - is not there or unavailable to you, keep moving and keep looking. Somewhere along the line, the distribution curve, particularly at the right time of day, will make you lucky. But if you are here for 4-5 days then Soi 6, G clubs or go gos are your best options for point and click...but they are by and large, ST in premises options only (something I simply do not do ).

    So, always be mindful of the distribution curve. Also, WS is now closing at 3-330 am, so one has to start early say by 1030 ( or in the case of some go gos by 830-9 as the older Korean and Japanese like to retire early with their barfine of the day.

    But, these days, it's a lot of work. And, that is what is so frustrating and I think Pattaya is fast reaching a point where the work (vs the money) is just becoming a very steep climb, IF you like me want under 23, GFE and solid 6-7. 5 with a rare 8. I for one find that the ones above 8 are just too full of themselves and simply not worth my time for a busted experience.

  13. #24450
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    One of my favorite lines to tell a chick is, "Don't miss your blessing."
    What exactly do you mean with this?
    I wonder if the average Thai girl knows what you mean with it.

  14. #24449
    Quote Originally Posted by Axiata  [View Original Post]
    What I meant by ratio is that when a ratio is heavily in favour of the working girls the clever ones know that they are in high demand. So they will either look for multiple pops or highest dollar for a long time. The odds are not in a punters favour.
    IMHO too many guys give too many women too much credit. They are not as clever as you make them out to be. Women are not sitting around thinking they are in high demand and that they can have any man that comes along and that any man will go to the ends of the earth for her. Women, and people in general, are very insecure. You can get any woman by not groveling over her and by playing on her insecurities. Act like she should be trying to get with you instead of you would do anything to get with her; especially when it comes to a hooker! One of my favorite lines to tell a chick is, "Don't miss your blessing." You can change her life, but what can she really do for you besides open her legs the same as any other woman can?

  15. #24448

    Ratios

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Proven yet again? Spending more does not get you better. How can you tell how the chicks in What's Up look anyway with that damn blue light?

    What does a ratio matter? You see a chick you want and you talk to her. Damn what everyone else is doing. It is not like people are coupled off and there are no more girls available.
    Thanks Mr E.

    You are right. Looks are very subjective regardless of the light. My eye sight is not great at night but I did not really notice the blue lights in Whats Up. The girls looked good even with dodgy eyes.

    What I meant by ratio is that when a ratio is heavily in favour of the working girls the clever ones know that they are in high demand. So they will either look for multiple pops or highest dollar for a long time. The odds are not in a punters favour.

    Happy Hunting.

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