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  1. #24498
    Quote Originally Posted by NRock  [View Original Post]
    This is the problem. You said you recognize that Indians have a bad reputation and want to find a solution, but then you are going to perpetuate the perception in LOS that Indians are cheap.

    How are you going to go to the clubs and not drink? How are you going to get girls if you don't offer to buy them a drink at the bar? (Separate issue being you will be kicked out of the GoGos that actually let you in for not buying drinks) 10 k is honestly unrealistic if you want to monger every day you are there. You could maybe get away with 2-3ST girls and the rest of the days is just walking around. But then what is the point of going?

    My recommendation is to not go until you have a more realistic budget, but since it seems like the trip is happening in a few days you probably have to hit up Beach Road or one of the Soi 6 bars (which will make you buy drinks). Soapies are likely to wreck your budget and clubs are simply out of the question.
    8-10 K per day is a good enough budget for food+drinks and mongering in Pattaya. Maybe not enough in Bangkok. You can definitely have 2 STs + 1 LT in that budget in Pattaya. Banging 3 girls a day is a decent average for a mongering trip of a few days.

  2. #24497
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdonkadonk  [View Original Post]
    Well, I guess that you don't have to. Personally I like to buy one lady drink to get some time to sit with the girl and get an idea of what kind of girl she is.

    Guess it is a personal preference to pay for that time to "interview" the girl before going up and since it is so small money we're talking about I find it to be well invested money. But sure, if someone is on a very tight budget, like our Indian friend Rocky2300, it is optional to to skip any drinks and go directly upstairs to the room. Still I would recommend to pay for that time to sit with a girl for a while, before taking her upstairs.
    Usually you can sit there and dick around with them all day without buying them a drink. They really don't have shit else to do (if it is not a really busy place - and if it is, then she is going to be gone right after the drink is finished anyway).

    The times that I do buy a chick a drink, I do it after she has been sitting with me screwing around for a while. That way I know whether she is there because "she wants to" and not because I used a "carrot on a stick" by buying the drink for her. In other words, I use drinks as a reward instead of a preward. I don't want to waste my money (as little as it may be) on someone I might be rejecting.
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  3. #24496
    Haven, my comment was based on my own experiences in gogo bars, FKK clubs, and many strip clubs around the world so my sample size is likely fairly large. I know what I see on how girls at specific bars perceive me. It's most obviously noticed in FKK clubs. In Pattaya, there are still many gogo bars where I have never bought a lady drink for anyone. In those bars, I do not get tons of smiles from girls who recognize me like I would in a gogo bar where they know I may buy a random girl an occasional lady drink.

    Maybe I will perform my own scientific studies when some of my friends come to town. Will hit the same gogo bars on consecutive multiple nights and see if the person buying a lady drink for a different girl each night gets more attention than the guy who never buys drinks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdonkadonk  [View Original Post]
    Well, I guess that you don't have to. Personally I like to buy one lady drink to get some time to sit with the girl and get an idea of what kind of girl she is. It will make it more easy to decide if I want to go with her upstairs or not. And sometimes I will find out that I don't want to go upstairs with the girl, for various reasons, and I just move on.

    Guess it is a personal preference to pay for that time to "interview" the girl before going up and since it is so small money we're talking about I find it to be well invested money. But sure, if someone is on a very tight budget, like our Indian friend Rocky2300, it is optional to to skip any drinks and go directly upstairs to the room. Still I would recommend to pay for that time to sit with a girl for a while, before taking her upstairs.
    I agree. I would rather dish out a bit of cash and get a lady drink to "interview" the girl first. Last week, I rejected a decent looking girl who grabbed me to sit with her at Ruby Bar. She was such a dud and failed her interview so bad that I left her before 1/3 of her drink was even finished. Imagine if I went to a room with her? I likely wouldn't have made it through our shower together. Walked by her again yesterday afternoon and she gave me a dirty look!

  4. #24495
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Why do you have to buy drinks? When you go to a restaurant do you have to buy appetizers? You can go to any place on Soi 6 and point at any chick and say let's go upstairs. The room is 350. Tell the girl 700 for her. 1050 all in. He could get 4 girls and a meal to eat after each one for every 3 girls that you get.

    Or you can go around closing time and find a chick. Pay the barfine (if the chick is cool she will just come to you after work without a barfine) and tell her 1000 LT for her.
    Well, I guess that you don't have to. Personally I like to buy one lady drink to get some time to sit with the girl and get an idea of what kind of girl she is. It will make it more easy to decide if I want to go with her upstairs or not. And sometimes I will find out that I don't want to go upstairs with the girl, for various reasons, and I just move on.

    Guess it is a personal preference to pay for that time to "interview" the girl before going up and since it is so small money we're talking about I find it to be well invested money. But sure, if someone is on a very tight budget, like our Indian friend Rocky2300, it is optional to to skip any drinks and go directly upstairs to the room. Still I would recommend to pay for that time to sit with a girl for a while, before taking her upstairs.

  5. #24494

    Soi 6

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdonkadonk  [View Original Post]
    My recommendation for Soi 6 still stands but you won't be able to take any girls long time from Soi 6 but you can afford a few short times there.

    You say that you don't drink but you are at least expected to get something, like a water, in a bar. That will be around 60 Baht and say that a lady drink is 160 so it comes to 220 Baht. 300 - 350 for the room plus 1000 for the girl. Around 1600 Baht for taking a girl there short time.
    Why do you have to buy drinks? When you go to a restaurant do you have to buy appetizers? You can go to any place on Soi 6 and point at any chick and say let's go upstairs. The room is 350. Tell the girl 700 for her. 1050 all in. He could get 4 girls and a meal to eat after each one for every 3 girls that you get.

    Or you can go around closing time and find a chick. Pay the barfine (if the chick is cool she will just come to you after work without a barfine) and tell her 1000 LT for her.

  6. #24493
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Thanks brothers for the information but I am a budget monger and my budget for girls is only 8 k baht (max. 10 k) for 5 days I am staying in Thailand. I don't drink so I won't have to spend on drinks.
    No brainer. Hit the disco and get a club soda. Get a chick for 1000 LT. Easy peasy. This chick got here at 11 pm last night and now it is after 2 pm and she is still here. 1000 baht. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill. Fuck with me and you will have money left over to take back home.
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  7. #24492

    Monkeypaw Serious Moment Here

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Thank you guys for guiding me, and I think that I will book another hotel room once I reach there, could you guys please suggest me some good hotels near soi 14 walking street (my current hotel) which won't be much burden on my pocket. Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars. And sorry for asking so many questions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300
    hey bro, read all your reports from a month back and really liked your style of writing reports. I believe from your reports that you have quite a lot of knowledge about Bangkok and Pattaya and a very good repo too. I am visiting Pattaya and bangkok on 7th february . Could you please help me out in bangkok ( i will be in bangkok from ( 10-12 ) or if you want we could monger together for a day or two either in bangkok or pattaya.
    My budget is a little on the low side , about 10000 baht for my whole stay for mongering . And i want to explore as much as possible. Would love to monger with you for a day or two.
    I am visiting with a male friend and we are from India .
    I hope you will help us by at least sharing your knowledge . And i would also love to know more about your expedition to Thermae,devils den and Angel witch all rolled into one place.

    Rocky2300
    I guess if a lost soul reaches out for a little help, Monkeypaw can assist a bit. Can't promise I can hang with you because I have a reputation to keep. Go Go bars both BKK and Pattaya, I am so well known, that if another ISG member embarrasses themselves or me, I usually have them kicked out. One time, out of being nice, an Indian member on this board PMed me about helping him get access into Palace and other bars on Walking Street. I met up with him and when they stopped him at the door, I gave the security nod, so they let him inside. When we took our seats, he didn't want to order a drink, but wanted to look for a few minutes. Not even a soda or water was ordered, then the waitress looked at me in confusion. I looked at the both of them and said, "I don't know this guy!" She said we thought he was with you? I said, "Nope, throw his ass out. I was saying Hello, to security with my nod. " So if your habits aren't like mine. We won't be able to hang. I don't drink much alcohol but do buy drinks and shots for the girls. I tip my waitresses well. I don't grope on girls or try to kiss them in bars. And I pay at least the standard going rate for the girl, no haggling down. Sometimes I pay more if it's a premium girl that just doesn't go with anyone. And always tip mamasan if she helps you select a girl. This is the Monkeypaw code for mongering in Go Go bars. This what makes me loved by these girls and #1. Don't forget to tip them when they perform and pay their taxi back always, when they travel to your hotel.

    You won't be able to catch in BKK anymore, because on the 6th, I'll be in Pattaya. As for your 10 days, 10,000 baht. That's not really my type of budget for fun. You are talking to somebody who spent 70,000 on just one night in Walking Street just at the Go Go bars, ended up not even getting a girl because I was so drunk, and had to walk back to my room in the rain because I had no taxi money. But it was a very memorable night, indeed.

    But you seem really lost, so I'll help you out a bit with some sound Monkeypaw advice. It's okay, I'm the expert at crap like this. I think you know already.

    1. No need to book another room, just yet. When you check into your hotel, ONLY you check in. Have your friend go wait some where else. And chill. You booked a room for 2, and only 1 person checks in. Tell reception, your buddy didn't make the trip and it's just you. Request two key cards still. If they only give you one, that's fine too. Officially, your room will booked for 2, but only 1 guest arrived, no joiner fee when a girl is brought back. These hotels don't know all their guests faces and remember there are usually 2 shifts (day / night) working. You take your buddy's luggage along with yours and bring it in to the room. Later, you go meet him to give him his key card and room number. Never walk in the lobby together with your buddy. They will not know who stays in that room anyways. The MOST important thing is only you check in for this to work, not two people.

    2. With the girls, it's easy now. But you can only have one girl in the room, and only he or you can be in the room as well. No Indian orgy, foursome crap can be going on in that room or you will get caught. You have to share the room. If you find a girl, you can take her to your room no problem. Take her to reception, they will ask room number and ID. Your buddy can wait outside somewhere. There are plenty on Indian food in the area. He can get some samosa or masala and enjoy the view. When he finds a girl, he goes to your room alone with your key. He will tell her the hotel name and room number and your name. He will go wait in your room. 5 minutes later, she will go to your hotel, tell reception YOUR name, and the room number. They will call in your room, and your buddy will "OK' her to come up. Reception doesn't know who they are talking to when they call into the room. Got it?

    3. You can possibly have a threesome if you and your buddy don't mind sharing a girl. I see why'all holding hands all the time on Walking Street, so I'm sure two guys rubbing naked up against a single Thai girl with some incidental touching shouldn't be an issue. Both of you find a girl outside, your friend goes wait in the room. No need to stop at reception. He leaves door unlock. 5 minutes later, you come with the girl. Leave her ID with reception. And walk with her to your room with the door unlocked and your buddy already naked. Then the both you can roll her around a flatten. If you get the itch late at night, you guys can find girls or maybe something else on WeChat. Just have them come up to your room. They only need your name and room number. But do tell the girl that there is another guy there. Some girls will bang two guys, no issue. Can't reiterate enough, that this only works with 1 person checking in, so make sure that's done.

    Your best bet is Beach Road freelancers that have all their teeth that run 1000-1500. Go go bars are at least 300 for drinks (even with just water or soda), 1000-2000 for barfine, and 2500-3000 minimum for the girl for short. They are still the highest quality in looks besides LK Metro. You get to see the merchandise before you order. Everywhere else, you are gambling. Soi 6 is so so in talent. Most are overweight, look like hoodrats that once belong to some Esaan Thai street gang or something. Girls are 1000, room and drinks add another 500. It comes down to what you really want to remember about your trip. I can come to Thailand and fuck 10 below average, ugly street girls and pay my hard earned money doing so. To me that is pretty stupid. I can do that in my own country for free. I'm not a unattractive guy. Can't speak for everyone on here and I don't know their story. But I rather go try to find that 1, 2, or 3 girl that I really really want. Quality over quantity. I want to remember the faces and bodies of these girls. I would pay more for that. Remember, the hunt in itself is the best part. Reward yourself with the girl you want, not the budget you set for just any girl. If you want to meet up still in Pattaya, I can get you into any and all the Go Go bars. You have to buy at least 1 drink (non-alcohol is okay), looking at the girls is just as fun. If you are okay with the drink, send me your email or contact via private message. - MP.

  8. #24491

    Impressive.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianG  [View Original Post]
    This is normal in every short time bars around the town. I had plenty of threesome in soi6 (different bars), club4, kinnaree, 007, and some bars in the Darkside and always charged a double room. If you take 3 girls you will be pay the room x3. Once in the darkside I took 5 girls and I had to pay room x5.
    5 girls?

    Outstanding work!

    Do you have a detailed report of this romp?

    I'm extremely keen for a 15 digit (what I refer to as) typewriter experience. IE: Five girls in the doggy position lined up side by side. I then move from hole to hole up and down the line until and then repeat until I cum.

    I have done the typewriter several times but only with three girls.

    For the record (no pun intended) Don Henley according to rumor is also an aficionado of this maneuver and helped himself to a 15 working girl typewriter at Heidi Fliess's establishment.

  9. #24490
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Thanks brothers for the information but I am a budget monger and my budget for girls is only 8 k baht (max. 10 k) for 5 days I am staying in Thailand. I don't drink so I won't have to spend on drinks. I knew that we might not be able to bring a girl for LT before the booking (which I did day before yesterday) but I will be there in 4 days and prices of hotels were skyrocketing due to high season ...
    I missed this post in the past. I see that you are on a very limited budget for the girls and I doubt that you will be able to take a girl every day in Thailand with that budget and you can definitely forget about Go Go bars. My recommendation for Soi 6 still stands but you won't be able to take any girls long time from Soi 6 but you can afford a few short times there.

    You say that you don't drink but you are at least expected to get something, like a water, in a bar. That will be around 60 Baht and say that a lady drink is 160 so it comes to 220 Baht. 300 - 350 for the room plus 1000 for the girl. Around 1600 Baht for taking a girl there short time.

    I am not very aware of hotel prices and it is true that now is high season but there will always be cheaper places to be found. Actually a friend of mine was thinking of coming here too, and soon, and he said that he wanted to pay 500 Baht and not more for a hotel (coincidentally he is also Indian). He asked me if I could check for some place for him and I did and I found a small guesthouse here in Jomtien where I live and it is 500 Baht a night. It's a separate room and it has shower, air con, TV and that is about what you need for a few days. Location is excellent in Jomtien just where the road turns to the beach and on the Baht bus route where you will reach Pattaya and Walking street in 10 minutes. I am just mentioning this as an example that it definitely is possible to find a cheap room if you just look around a little.

  10. #24489
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Maybe Mr. E will volunteer his services to take a couple of Indian guys around?



    No problem not drinking alcohol in gogo bars. Your drink will cost around 90 to 185 baht for a non-alcoholic drink and a lady drink will range from 150 to 215 baht, depending on the bar. with a 1600 baht budget per day you can see your money will not last long at all in gogo bars. Gogo bars are not cheap which is why most ISG members do not go to them often, if at all.
    For ST there are girls at beer bars you can find for say 500 bar fine, plus 1000ST, plus another min 500 baht for drinks and to have time to chat and build some kind of rapport. So, a min of 2000ST at a beer bar and about 3000 LT. But quality is all over the map at the beer bars and good looking young ones are slim pickings requiring a heck of a lot of time and work.

  11. #24488
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    This applies not only to Indians but to Farang and Asians as well. It's irrelevant if you only plan on going to a specific bar once but believe me girls notice if you bought lady drinks for anyone from a previous visit.
    With all due respect, I would submit that if you are a guy (like many older golfer type Koreans or just any fun guy) who buys multiple girls drinks and has done that on prior occasion (s) at the same go go bar, the positive attention that behavior gets is likely to be stored in a specific section of the brain's cortex vs. A poor single lonely guy who walks in, has one drink and leaves after 30 minutes. This other guy is not memorable and boring and that memory is stored in different sections of the brain because that memory has no specific associative power, since it has no 'value' . Additionally, if there are 20-30 girls in a go go bar on any specific night and say 100-150 guys are coming and going, not ALL the 20-30 girls will too remember or even try to remember EVERY single guy (50-150 of them) in that one single day who DID NOT buy a drink. It's just much associative memory overload, particularly when a girl has worked in that go go for weeks or months. BUT it is easier to recall positive memories when it is reinforced (memory overlays) multiple times by the same person or a specific ethnic group. That is how the brain receives, stores and organizes information in various DIFFERENT memory centers of the brain. Positive experiences, negative experiences, neutral experiences etc are all stored in different sections of the brain and with different " associations ". And this results in different measures of aided and unaided recall and no two girls memories will be just as good.

    Finally, if you are a guy who has been to a specific go go, say 3 times in a week, and not bought a girl a drink those times but enter a fourth time AND buy a girl a drink within say the first 5-10 minutes, all those prior memories (if any and I submit very weak recall) will be overridden by the brand new here and now memory. And, to top it all, if on the 4th visit, you also barfine a girl (vs that another guy who bought 12 drinks for 4 different girls but never bar fined a single one of them, you on the 4th visit after you barfined a girl are likely to be remembered by the girls (not all of them to be sure) and the memories of the 3 earlier visits whisked away into the far reaches of the memory as unimportant vs the newer memory. That is just how the neuroscience of the brain works. Positive experiences are stored in better / different memory areas and unimportant stuff that happens all the time is dismissed into the far reaches or sections of the.

    Brain where the organization, associative linkages and neuronal recall iis poor and inefficient.

    I know this is more than you bargained for BB, but this stuff is true and valid empirical based scientific fact.

    Neither the go go girls nor any other average human is gonna remember everything UNLESS it is memorable and has associative value . They are not gonna remember ALL the guys who did NOT buy drinks. But they are much more likely to remember the guys who bought LOTS of drinks or bar fined ANY girl there in the recent past. All a guy has to do on the 3rd or 4 th time, is buy a girl a drink within the first 5-10minutes and / or bar fine a girl from there and you are much more likely to be remembered by the girls there. These other guys who did NOT buy drinks is unimportant stuff and has very low associative value for the brain. It does its thing without any of us having any clue at all and we have very little control over how memories are stored, organized and recalled based on a number of factors that our non-conscious brain ( not the same thing as unconscious or conscious) takes into consideration.

    Yes, my man, I like to study stuff and a very huge part of my travels is to observe and analyze and learn about all kinds of stuff about the brain, consciousness and neuroscience ... and more crap than 99.999999 % of the humans ever do. Lol

  12. #24487
    Quote Originally Posted by NRock  [View Original Post]
    10 k is honestly unrealistic if you want to monger every day you are there.
    Maybe Mr. E will volunteer his services to take a couple of Indian guys around?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars.
    No problem not drinking alcohol in gogo bars. Your drink will cost around 90 to 185 baht for a non-alcoholic drink and a lady drink will range from 150 to 215 baht, depending on the bar. with a 1600 baht budget per day you can see your money will not last long at all in gogo bars. Gogo bars are not cheap which is why most ISG members do not go to them often, if at all.

  13. #24486

    Pattaya Scouting Day 1.

    Hi guys,

    This is my first FR and after RTFF for quite some time, it was a big help to understand how things work in Pattaya.

    Coming to the scouting report.

    Reached LOS in the morning and straight bus to Pattaya. Checked in at hotel. Needed a sure shot session so headed to Sabai Dee at 1530 hrs and the talent was pretty much there since I went in early.

    Chose girl #159 and she didn't disappoint. 3 k+tip for the soapie. She was really pretty and the figure top notch!

    Moving on, scouted through Soi 6 after that but jonny was a bit tired after that amazing session so didn't enter any.

    Realized that Soi 6 is full of talent only till 8 pm because then you will see all the talent with some other guy.

    Scouted through WS agogos next:

    BananaBoi's scouting list helped me through:

    Baccara: They kept telling me its for members. Probably no entry for me since I'm Indian.

    Palace: Same as above. They kept saying it's full.

    Sensations: A lot of girls but hardly any stunners. They were all in their early 20's and demanded 3 k for FS ST but only HJ. Declined on the spot.

    Sapphire: There were quite a few stunners. I bought drinks for many but they told me that they are not free tonight since its a Saturday. Rate was 3 k for ST FS+BBBJ.

    Barfine was 1.5 k for the above agogos.

    I decided to go off Agogos after that.

    Went to Soi 6 again but the bars were closing and the girls had found their LT. I took a Baht bus again and reached WS. BR FLs were pretty much there and some looked good. Maybe hit up few in the next few days.

    Tried few Indian clubs. If you are an Indian, the club punters swarm you a lot but make sure you go only to Nasha because that has a lot of girls. I entered there and boy, there was a lot of talent but mostly taken.

    The night went more on scouting so didn't try barfining. Maybe will do today at Sapphire.

    In the end, since this is my first time in Patts. Watched that sex show in Playgirl, had dinner and then back to room.

    I feel that starting late on a Saturday night was the biggest mistake. I'll start early from today.

    More for tomorrow cya!

  14. #24485
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Thank you guys for guiding me, and I think that I will book another hotel room once I reach there, could you guys please suggest me some good hotels near soi 14 walking street (my current hotel) which won't be much burden on my pocket. Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars. And sorry for asking so many questions.
    I can't help you with hotels near walking street.

    So far the advice you have received is excellent.

    As far as drinks are concerned, I understand that you don't drink alcohol, but you have to understand that the bars / gogos / discos make money from selling drinks. It is good that you are willing to buy the girls drinks. If you are good with buying drinks, then you should be able to get away with buying a water or two. Again, the bars make money by selling drinks, so if you are in a place for 3 hours and buy 1 drink, that is not good for the bar.

    You are going to face racism because you are Indian, so be prepared. I have seen girls in gogos refuse to even accept a drink from an Indian guy.

    Good luck.

  15. #24484
    Quote Originally Posted by NRock  [View Original Post]
    This is the problem. You said you recognize that Indians have a bad reputation and want to find a solution, but then you are going to perpetuate the perception in LOS that Indians are cheap.

    How are you going to go to the clubs and not drink? How are you going to get girls if you don't offer to buy them a drink at the bar? (Separate issue being you will be kicked out of the GoGos that actually let you in for not buying drinks) 10 k is honestly unrealistic if you want to monger every day you are there. You could maybe get away with 2-3ST girls and the rest of the days is just walking around. But then what is the point of going?

    My recommendation is to not go until you have a more realistic budget, but since it seems like the trip is happening in a few days you probably have to hit up Beach Road or one of the Soi 6 bars (which will make you buy drinks). Soapies are likely to wreck your budget and clubs are simply out of the question.
    Hey bro,

    I said that I won't drink alcohol because I haven't drank alcohol earlier in my entire life. And I never said that I won't buy ladies drink in fact I made it clear in my earlier posts that I will buy ladies drink.

    And I should also clear that I an not going there just to monger but also to visit different tourist attractions.

    I know that my budget is a lot less than it should be but I think that it will motivate me to explore more of the city and I find more interest in exploring rather than just banging the chicks. As said earlier, chase is better than the catch, at least in my opinion. And thanks for the insightful information.

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