Pattaya Reports

[Turgid]

.......It is in choosing the girls who choose you.........

It is important to me for a girl to refuse me. That way I would have been saved from a bad experience of poor service from a girl who really does not want to be with me. In China I was refused occasionally but I was also with girls who clearly did not want to be with me, one even cried during the deed. I prefer to be refused which gives me an opportunity to be with a girl who will give good service.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

There is no usual. They stay what you negotiate.

Excellent argument : I have a small dick so give me a good price. I'll bring it up again ^^

In any case, being a potential regular customer plays a certain role in the negotiation. They also come to approach former customers when they can't find any otherwise. It's easier in this case to negotiate the prices down. And probably also the duration.

One more reason to say that TF is more suited to long stays than short ones I think.

[Shikhar10]

... I think for most guys the moment they sign up they are inundated with messages from freelancers.

For better privacy, I have removed myself from TF search. Only the ladies I send a message to can see my profile.

[SubCmdr]

I wouldn't waste my time on TF.

It's for people who spend months and years living there. For the weekenders, you are better off at the places you already visited. Ok, so that is your opinion and you are welcome to it. But I am going offer mine, except mine is supported by documentation.

Example I

First week I was here I met three girls off of Thai Friendly and reported about it. All great experiences! 1000 - 1500 THB. Was told they were ugly just because of the price that I paid. In fact, there were those telling me I was lying on my dick. Now look at them. Choking on their mother fucking foot cause they didn't wash it before putting it in their mouth! If it doesn't taste so good, then make sure you know what you are talking about before you start beating on your keyboard.

Example II

Why not just use Thai Friendly? I've been here almost 3 weeks now and I've only been using TF to source my providers. I've been paying on average 1200 baht per session and the majority of them are BBFS. I never pay for no stupid lady drinks or even regular drinks for that matter. If I want a drink I go to Tops Daily where they sell the big green bottles of Singha beer for 64 baht. The whole concept of barfines and lady drinks is absurd. But to each his own I suppose.

Gabacho Out.

It is Gabacho's first visit to Pattaya, Thailand. And he has been running up into Thai girls since wheels down.

I wouldn't waste my time on TF.

Tell me again my brother why you have this opinion? On what basis are you provide this opinion to us?

He has to comment on every post

I comment on what I know. Have you ever seen a post from me about a soapie massage place? No you have not. Why? Because I have not been to one. If others followed that simple rule then we would not have to wade through so many bullshit posts like ones that Mogwai likes to throw up.

I did post quite a lot in the pastBut in the end it became boring and too time consuming to write reviews.

This mother fucker wrote a post to say he does not post anymore. WTF?!.

[Shikhar10]

... Just swim in the waters available to you and have fun and be grateful that you had the opportunity to do what millions of others could not...

Absolutely. I am happy with my experience. I wanted to post about the not-so-positive experiences anyway, so that other first-timers from India can calibrate expectations accordingly.

I wouldn't waste my time on TF. It's for people who spend months and years living there. For the weekenders, you are better off at the places you already visited.

Okay.

... These ladies have a choice of who they want to fuck and not fuck. We are not buying a product are we? ... they have the choice to choose their client for many reasons ...

Of course. I did not mean otherwise.

Thanks for your response, LoneWolff.

[LoneWolff]

Thanks for responding. I would be happy to spend more at Soi 6 but what do I do with the money exactly? I was already offering LDs to women I fancied. What more could I do?

Not much. These ladies have a choice of who they want to fuck and not fuck. We are not buying a product are we? Just an hour of time from a person for their service and they have the choice to choose their client for many reasons. We can increase our odds but there are certain girls who even refuse to go with western white guys apparently if you read some of their reports here. There is already a hue and cry about it in Philippines forum and to a smaller extent in Thai forums. Girls prefer Asians like Koreans and Japs more, then come westerners, then Middle East and finally Desis.

The places that offer lineups such as soapies are more suitable for a sure shot selection. AFAIK, yet to read a report where a Soapie lady has turned down a client. Probably a 99% chance of nothing going wrong there. However the ladies are usually older, padded with makeup and the mechanical nature of sex ruins it.

[CaliGuy33]

I am 30/ M / Indian. I visited Pattaya for 4 days in the last week of August.

Barfined (ST) twice from Soi 6 and twice from two of the top Gogo bars at Walking Street.

I thought I should share my retrospective. Be warned, it might feel a bit like a rant about the Indian experience in Pattaya.

1. I was denied entry at Pin-Up and XS Gogo Bars. At both places, the guards said "members only, 5000 THB fee". Granted I am very brown and obese, I think I was dressed fine. I visited the Walking Street alone, so I did not seem like one of those creepy Indian groups either. Before entering a bar, I confirm LD and BF prices. Maybe that made them think I am a stereotypical Cheap Charlie from India. I was willing to spend good money but not just for the privilege to enter the damned bar. I tried to communicate the same by offering to buy drinks for security guards at both the bars. At XS, I even opened my wallet to show them the cash I have on me. That only prompted them to reduce the "membership fee" to 3000 THB "just for me". I left after hearing that. Maybe a little more convincing would have worked? Whatever. It was a little frustrating to be expected to just throw a lot of money away to prove I can spend as much as Koreans and Americans. Why not have a cover charge system instead? More than happy to guarantee spending 5 k THB on LDs and BFs but I would still be a little worried about bill padding or excessive LD requests from staff when paying a big amount upfront. Any thoughts on this from fellow Indians / non-Indians?

2. Onto the other two Gogo bars I did BF from. I will not name them for privacy; apparently Indians very rarely visit Gogo bars. The first bar asked for 500 THB "membership fee". That was much more reasonable than the 5000 THB demand from other bars. I handed the guard the cash. He said something along the lines of, "just buy me a drink", so I did not end up paying the 500 THB fee after all. Just paid for my drink and a guard's drink to enter. At the second bar, I was not stopped at entrance at all. I offered the guard a drink anyway. He was very happy. I offered a drink each to two waitresses. They paid special attention to my requests.

3. As expected Soi 6 is much more value for money. Of course here as well, the experience is not as good as it is for Americans and Koreans. Those dudes (regardless of age, weight, etc.) were getting a lot more attention from the pretty ladies. Two ladies refused my offer to buy them drinks. It was a little upsetting in the moment but I did not brood over it. In retrospect, I am very happy these ladies had the agency to refuse my advances if they did not feel like being with me. Soon enough, I found a pretty lady who agreed to get a drink with me. Lots of kissing and groping inside the bar. We went upstairs for ST. It was fun. I regret not LTing her. I spent 2500 and 3000 baht all in (my drink, LD, BF and lady's fee) for the two times. Much better value for money than Walking Street. Sure, Gogo bars will have higher concentration of "more desirable" ladies but Soi 6 has so many ladies, you will very likely find someone you like and for much cheaper.

4. No luck on TF with subscription. First question I ask is if the lady freelances. Most did not respond. Some that did never messaged again.

I had a few questions as well (I have RTFF):

1. One lady from Soi 6 I barfined the previous day sent me angry Line texts after she spotted me heading to another bar on the street. This happened even though I told her during our first interaction that I am butterfly. Could I have prevented her being (fake?) upset? Not sure what her expectation was.

2. A lot of the ladies I bought a drink asked if I have a girlfriend. Are they asking about my previous barfining history? Or if I have a girlfriend back home? Or something else? I remember reading somewhere that Pattaya's entertainment industry is built around GFE but in this forum, I see lots of people here not sticking around with one lady. Am I missing something?

3. Do I need do something more to get better response on TF? My profile only had one face-to-waist photo. Is that enough? How long do you all spend messaging ladies on TF? It sure felt like a lot of work to do.

Please reply / message me if you spot any behaviour I can improve for a better experience for myself or the ladies.

Pretty brutal if you're not getting ladies hitting you up on TF. I think for most guys the moment they sign up they are inundated with messages from freelancers.

[Paolo99]

Thanks for responding. I would be happy to spend more at Soi 6 but what do I do with the money exactly? I was already offering LDs to women I fancied. What more could I do?

Just pay a drink to the girl you like, if she is responding well keep paying a few drinks (one after one, no racks and no tequilas). During that time, talk with her and be touchy, try to feel her everywhere. If things are going good, take her upstairs (after negociating a price). If not, move to another bar or come back to the soi later if you don't see anyone.

The girls are seeing all kind of guys walking the soi up and down frequently, they don't necessarily know who is here to have a good time and who is not. They will know when they will see you having a good time with a girl, and spending on drinks. Your next visit some of the other girls would have noticed you, and slowly more and more girls will want to jump on you, but it takes time. One or two days might not be enough to get the same treatment that the guys you've seen.

[LoneWolff]

I am 30/ M / Indian. I visited Pattaya for 4 days in the last week of August.

Barfined (ST) twice from Soi 6 and twice from two of the top Gogo bars at Walking Street..

I think you did well for your first visit I believe. Otherwise you wouldn't be so alarmed about the lack of access to all clubs.

First of all, I would not give a damn about it since the visit time for us is usually just a few days and Pattaya has thousands and thousands of girls to choose from. It's not like you are losing out on everything. You did not get access to the best location on the beach, but you can still be happy with the sea in front of you anyways. Just swim in the waters available to you and have fun and be grateful that you had the opportunity to do what millions of others could not.

Secondly, clubs are there to make money. They are not here to entertain everyone who comes to Pattaya. They are doing what is right for their business model. And they are 100% right in doing so. If you run a business you will want the best spending and well behaved customers. And they do use their best judgement in filtering out certain races which is not fair to some of us but if you see around you deep down know they have to do it.

I wouldn't waste my time on TF. It's for people who spend months and years living there. For the weekenders, you are better off at the places you already visited.

[SubCmdr]

Thanks for responding. I would be happy to spend more at Soi 6 but what do I do with the money exactly? I was already offering LDs to women I fancied. What more could I do?

Brother, the answer is not in spending more. It is in choosing the girls who choose you. On Soi 6 not all girls are willing to take the BIG BLACK DICK. I don't worry about those girls who are not willing to take it. I focus on those girls that are willing to take it. Girls ask me to Bar Fine them all the time. I say no most of the time. Because I just refuse to pay a lot for pussy.

I am nearly 60 years old, fat, ugly, dumb disrespectful of people and a narcissist. Yet, I have have no trouble hiring a prostitute all over Pattaya. Personally I don't get it. It only makes sense to me if you are focused on the girl instead of the deal. If you cannot figure out if a girl wants to go with you or not by personal interaction you are going to have disappointing experiences. Hone your intuition. Stop being focused on the material things. Yes, these are prostitutes. But they are also girls. That means they are naturally in their emotions. Furthermore you are dealing with another human being. This human being has come to work with any number of problems in their lives personally and professional. Keep that in mind when you are dealing with these girls. Stay in the moment and your moments will be more rewarding. Trust me..

At least Sub posts reports. Whether you love him or hate him, he contributes useful info.

[SubCmdr]

More than 50% of the ladies who come to my condo want to be paid via bank transfer rather than cash.

Fuck that! I only pay my prostitutes fiat currency in THB. My personal philosophy is to pay cash until I cannot. Like at the move theater I had to buy a card in order to purchase tickets. So, I did. But I least I got a discount. Also, many food courts let you pay cash at the main station where they put a credit on a card that lets you make purchases in the food court. I had to mail a package and they would only allow bank transfer. I paid it. But I also thought it was fucked up. Legal Tender means it is legal to use for all business transactions in the mother fucking country. Get the fuck!.

[Mr Enternational]

A lot of the ladies I bought a drink asked if I have a girlfriend. Are they asking about my previous barfining history? Or if I have a girlfriend back home? Or something else?

They are just making small talk. Tell them yes and she likes ladies too.

Do I need do something more to get better response on TF? My profile only had one face-to-waist photo. Is that enough? How long do you all spend messaging ladies on TF? It sure felt like a lot of work to do.

I just copy and paste "Hello,. What you doing" to all of them that I am interested in. Whoever answers then I work from there. Some do not answer for days, weeks or even months after.

[Shikhar10]

You can get the same treatment as these guys if you're willing to spend as much as you were willing to spend on walking street.
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Thanks for responding. I would be happy to spend more at Soi 6 but what do I do with the money exactly? I was already offering LDs to women I fancied. What more could I do?

[Turgid]

......1. One lady from Soi 6 I barfined the previous day sent me angry Line texts after she spotted me heading to another bar on the street.......

When you see her go with a customer send her an angry text complaining about that.

[Mogwai]

If you stopped posting then I don't understand what you are doing here now? You say you don't have much to say about the other options, but you do about Thai Friendly. Plenty of the guys need help in that area.
So whats stopping you from contributing about that? TF in Pattaya is one of the major mongering options. TF in Pattaya is different than BKK and other places because 95% of the ladies are FLs. Other areas in about 50/50.
So, are you still here to contribute or just muddle and puddle around. At least Sub posts reports. Whether you love him or hate him, he contributes useful info.
With you, you have over 2000 posts. With experience like that, you are qualified to contribute in any section of the forum. Please post up.

Here are some examples:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...386&viewfull=1#post2916386. Post no. 42305.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...376&viewfull=1#post2916376. Post no. 42304.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...813&viewfull=1#post2903813. Post no. 41910.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...821&viewfull=1#post2891821. Post no. 41613.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...978&viewfull=1#post2881978. Post no. 41193.