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  1. #19108
    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    I will be making my 3rd visit to Pattaya next week. Thinking that Songkram was from April 13-15, I figured I would totally miss it, but now I see that in Pattaya it runs until at least the 19th (next Tuesday). I will arrive BKK at about 11:30 AM next Tuesday, then will take the Bell bus to Pattaya, probably arriving at around 3:30 PM. Bell has indicated that they will not offer hotel transportation on that day, so I will need to get a taxi I presume, as I will have a large bag. Anyone know what the approximate taxi fare should be to Soi 13? I understand Beach Road will be closed.

    I presume there will be relatively little traffic heading in to Pattaya on the 19th, as Bell was showing around 30 open seats. And my hotel has been showing a cheap rate, which makes it appear that Pattaya will be in the low season even if Songkran won't yet be officially over. I would not mind a day of Songkran as I have never experienced it before, but I think one day would be plenty!

    I will be in Pattaya a week, then will return to BKK for a week to see my "GF" again (a real life, super sweet, old fashioned Thai girl, still a virgin I met online a few year back), after which I will go, alone, to Phuket for 4 days, then either back to Pattaya for a few more days or possibly back to BKK to see the GF (if I manage to break through that kevlar hymen this time).

    Looking forward to it, but hope the last day (s) of Songkran won't mess things up.
    Based on your time frame, the time you indicate by the time you or Bell Bus get to the Bus station area the streets will be wall to wall cars and people. Even if you get to the Station I hope you can roll your big piece of luggage easily because you will need to most likely roll in all the way to the Hotel while getting soaked. You be better off getting in around 8 pm or cancel altogether and come the next day!

  2. #19107
    I will be making my 3rd visit to Pattaya next week. Thinking that Songkram was from April 13-15, I figured I would totally miss it, but now I see that in Pattaya it runs until at least the 19th (next Tuesday). I will arrive BKK at about 11:30 AM next Tuesday, then will take the Bell bus to Pattaya, probably arriving at around 3:30 PM. Bell has indicated that they will not offer hotel transportation on that day, so I will need to get a taxi I presume, as I will have a large bag. Anyone know what the approximate taxi fare should be to Soi 13? I understand Beach Road will be closed.

    I presume there will be relatively little traffic heading in to Pattaya on the 19th, as Bell was showing around 30 open seats. And my hotel has been showing a cheap rate, which makes it appear that Pattaya will be in the low season even if Songkran won't yet be officially over. I would not mind a day of Songkran as I have never experienced it before, but I think one day would be plenty!

    I will be in Pattaya a week, then will return to BKK for a week to see my "GF" again (a real life, super sweet, old fashioned Thai girl, still a virgin I met online a few year back), after which I will go, alone, to Phuket for 4 days, then either back to Pattaya for a few more days or possibly back to BKK to see the GF (if I manage to break through that kevlar hymen this time).

    Looking forward to it, but hope the last day (s) of Songkran won't mess things up.

  3. #19106
    Quote Originally Posted by BillInLosAnges  [View Original Post]
    Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.
    So take a walk down beach road (the "coconut bar") IT IS, OF COURSE, EASIER IF YOU SPEAK THAI.

    What you see is what you will get. Negotiate directly with the lady (but watch out. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is).

    HAVE YOU EVER EVEN BEEN TO PATTAYA? Kuhree mai ma pattaya? I suspect not.

  4. #19105
    Quote Originally Posted by BillInLosAnges  [View Original Post]
    Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.
    How does the mamasan hook you up? When I go to bars and gogo clubs I choose the girl I want, not the mamasan.

  5. #19104
    Quote Originally Posted by BillInLosAnges  [View Original Post]
    Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.
    Well sorry you feel that way. I'm black and live there part time. I have black friends that live there full time. None of us have ever had a problem like you claim. Maybe the Mama's at the clubs and bars you went to thought you like fat girls.

  6. #19103
    Quote Originally Posted by BillInLosAnges  [View Original Post]
    Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.
    BS.

    I see many Blacks doing well in Pattaya. You did poorly a first post, plust the lack of grammara.

  7. #19102
    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    I know a few guys who will take exceptional offence to those "going rates". LMAO.

    But guess what Uncle V, its Songkran so all the flaming may just be doused by the water jet manned by an Isaan cutie! 5555.

    Have fun! Happy Songkran.
    haha. I think I would rather be burned to a crisp than dealing with Songkran right now.

    Apropos my exchange last night with Haven, I just ran across this gem that I can't help citing:

    The immortal Casey Stengel debunking the canard that sex before a game was bad for ballplayers: "Being with a woman all night never hurt no professional baseball player. It's staying up all night looking for a woman that does him in. ".

  8. #19101

    Pattaya hates blacks

    Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.

  9. #19100
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]
    Dude! $160 for a night you will remember for a long time to come. Well worth it.

    2-3 K is the going rate now at Ibar. Yes you can pay less, but then you are not likely to get the girl you want and are likely to waste more time and money fucking around at the club when you should be fucking your dream girl back in the room.

    1500 baht is less than $45. If you like to get exactly what you want when you want it then that is not a lot of money. At least not to me. And I am no millionaire by any stretch.

    If you are a guy that wants value and quantity that's another story. To each his own. Do the work and save your $30-40.
    I know a few guys who will take exceptional offence to those "going rates". LMAO.

    But guess what Uncle V, its Songkran so all the flaming may just be doused by the water jet manned by an Isaan cutie! 5555.

    Have fun! Happy Songkran.

  10. #19099

    Prices

    Thanks, Uncle V. Yes, in this particular instance I felt a bit guilty about paying 2500 baht for the girl in Ibar. However, many times, you read reports about how cheap the girls are in certain destinations or venues but then when you get there, it seems that is already old news. Even on BR, I heard a girl quote a customer 2000 baht, albeit she was quite attractive, which gets to a certain point I would like to make. One night towards the end of my stay, I took a stroll on BR about 10 pm and counted about 275 FL's between the Hard Rock and the Burger King / Pizza Company. Out of this amount, only a few I would ever consider taking to my hotel. Most of the girls were not very attractive, hence BR reputation for being inexpensive. So the cute one who was asking for 2000 was an anomaly because of her comparative look (though she prob would have taken less depending on how astute a negotiator the punter was). Anyway, there are a lot of variables that are involved in how girls determine their price and what they
    will accept.

    But when fellow posters read about 1000 baht prices, or less, they need to keep in mind the attractiveness of the girl. And, sometimes, that can be quite low (from BR).

    The same applies at the Ibar. Sure, there are girls, even in there, who could never get 2500-3000 baht. There is a lot of average and below average in that place as well. These girls might go for 1500 but the girl I took out was hot and her expected rate was simply higher. I don't think she would have gone with me for 2000 though there were quite a few girls in the vicinity who would have gladly taken that amounts, but they were fuglies imo. The other thing that complicates the mix is whether it's long or short time. Even my 2500 baht girl was a bit obtuse about how long that would be, though, in the end, she stayed to about 9 am. I find you just never know as it depends on the hour we leave the venue, etc. It does seem a certain type of girl wants to leave (my apartment) about 4:30 am or so and call it long time. It's almost like the witching hour for them. Case in point, recently, I took a girl to my apartment in Bangkok for long time. I was quite randy that evening and we had sex almost continuously for two or three hours, with some rests in between. She left at 4:30 am and I did not complain. I was spent, she was exhausted, and what's the point for her to stay another few hours. But I got my money's worth in a shorter period of time than I had expected.

    So thanks for your encouraging words and into the breech we go...

  11. #19098
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]
    This damn suit is no match for your scorching prose. I will need skin grafts before my trip.

    ..........

    Uncle CC? I think you may have missed my point.))) I don't mind spending money at Ibar and have spent a tidy sum there in the past without even batting an eye. But I won't begrudge giving the girl a little extra. Especially if she reciprocates with some hot sex and some good lovin'.

    What I don't get is when guys complain about one thing but willingly do the other. But I guess that's just me.

    I really do hope we get to meet and hang out and am sure that the verbal sparing will be just as much fun as the hunt at Ibar. I guess the first round is on me (you clever bastard)!

    Stay horny my friend.

    (until further notice still) Uncle-V.
    Hahaha. Uncle V, I was just playing with you a little. Sometimes, I just try to take this board into a bit of playful direction. And my humor (or the lack of it depending on your point of view) is not for all.

    Anyways, it was a lighthearted attempt to induce a bit of different thinking / approach without being full of myself.

    Yeah, look forward to meeting ya too. Although I don't know if we'll get to hang out much with you wanting to run off to your loom rapido (haha pun intended) and don your suit on!

    BTW, that explains your sign off on all your messages and I can understand why you need to hurry back to your loom. We certainly don't want to see you erect ( without or without your protective gear) at Ibar. Well at least I don't!

    And, unlike you ( thankfully ), I certainly don't have the power to Stayyyyyyy Horny ! Consequently, I won't be in any hurry ! LOL! 😜

  12. #19097
    Quote Originally Posted by Haven123  [View Original Post]
    Uncle V, it's not very often that we get to imagine you with your fire retardant gear on. So here goes!!
    This damn suit is no match for your scorching prose. I will need skin grafts before my trip. Otherwise I won't even be able to get laid on Soi 6. 555.

    Your arguments are well formed and duly noted. In the end everyone IS different and into their own thing. I respect your cost calculus. But mine is a bit different. I really do enjoy my time with the girls in the room: fucking, cuddling, kissing and horsing around more than hanging out at the club.

    Uncle CC? I think you may have missed my point.))) I don't mind spending money at Ibar and have spent a tidy sum there in the past without even batting an eye. But I won't begrudge giving the girl a little extra. Especially if she reciprocates with some hot sex and some good lovin'.

    What I don't get is when guys complain about one thing but willingly do the other. But I guess that's just me.

    I really do hope we get to meet and hang out and am sure that the verbal sparing will be just as much fun as the hunt at Ibar. I guess the first round is on me (you clever bastard)!

    Stay horny my friend.

    (until further notice still) Uncle-V.

  13. #19096
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]
    Dude! $160 for a night you will remember for a long time to come. Well worth it.

    2-3 K is the going rate now at Ibar. Yes you can pay less, but then you are not likely to get the girl you want and are likely to waste more time and money fucking around at the club when you should be fucking your dream girl back in the room.

    ..........

    1500 baht is less than $45.

    Putting on my fire retardant gear now and getting ready to get flamed. LOL.
    Uncle V, it's not very often that we get to imagine you with your fire retardant gear on. So here goes!!

    1. Yeah, maybe you are right. But that's besides the point man. It's all relative. Recently there was a poster on the BKK board who was happy to pay 10 times that for his escorts. So, is he wrong then? Ah, no. It's all relative. Also, if I remember right this was a last night situation in Patts for Tomas before his move to BKK and on to Indo. (if I remember right).

    2. But also, as MR ENT says he lives there and anything more than $1500 be and he believes the girl may feel she's got someone she can get more from. Over time, later! And if someone like you, finds a girl he likes, and does pay more than the $2-3 k later then that's ok too. ' Cause it's all relative.

    3. Of course, the looks, dress and personality of the girl matter too and there is no equation, it's whatever works for you. Recently there was another poster who primary liked the beach RD girls and mostly went ST for less than $1000 B .So, it's all whatever works for you at that particular time.

    4. We are all different man! And many of us are even different on different days and different in different countries.

    5. For example, I see things differently when I am in Sao Paulo, BR vs Puerto Plata in the DR. And, sometimes if I go with a girl for a few days to a lux all inclusive resort in the DR, then it will end up being over $200 a night. But, each situation and each experience is different. In that sense, I can understand Tomas and I do understand both your POV and MR. ENt's too.

    6. And then there are strange dudes like me who gets more out of a nice dinner in a great setting or in a great disco bar with lots of beautiful girls, music etc providing a great ambiance than I often get back in the room! Why? Because at least for me, I look at things in a math kind of way and also look at pleasure for myself with my own sensory meter in a quantitative way.

    The total pleasure, sigmaad over time, say 2-3 hours in a place like Ibar enjoying the drinks, dancing, ambiance etc. , or over a 2-3 dinner in a similarly pleasurable setting (but different) also have sensory pleasure value and many times does compare better (for me in a relative way) than say 20-30 minutes with a girl in the room. Since unlike people like you who wear flame redartant suits I don't quite have the gear to last a whole lot longer. Even if doubled that with another 20-30 minutes in the am with the girl, it's still only 40-60 minutes, and I have to put up with the girl in the am, or during the night, worry about my stuff, walk her down in the am etc etc. Yeah, of course the kinds of pleasure you get from these 3 distinctly different kinds of pleasure seeking activities are not equivalent, we can all try to compute that for ourselves in our minds and with our senses and then make an instructive decision of relative values. At this point in my life, I often find that many people may not be totally honest with themselves about how and when to optimize these 3 kinds of pleasure situations, both before and after, with a feedback loop, when using both $ and time in such a rough inherently subjective valuation of relative pleasure.

    Hey, you asked for it! Obviously, not the same kind of incoming you were expecting for sure! LOL! BTW, it looks like maybe you don't like to spend much money in a place like Ibar, so (and this is a rhetorical question) can I then change your name from Uncle V to Uncle (Cheap) Charlie because of your relative valuation of that sensory pleasure vs the extra $30-$40 at the Ibar, in addition to other $ for your girl (s). Dude, when I see you I'm going to try to make you spend $50 at Ibar one night so you can still be Uncle V for the rest of us. Even if that means no girl for you but girl for me that night ! Haha. ROLFMAO!

  14. #19095
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]

    All that being said, the money I spent that night would have been better allocated to another time and place but sometimes you get the bug and sometimes the bug gets you.
    Dude! $160 for a night you will remember for a long time to come. Well worth it.

    2-3 K is the going rate now at Ibar. Yes you can pay less, but then you are not likely to get the girl you want and are likely to waste more time and money fucking around at the club when you should be fucking your dream girl back in the room.

    1500 baht is less than $45. If you like to get exactly what you want when you want it then that is not a lot of money. At least not to me. And I am no millionaire by any stretch.

    If you are a guy that wants value and quantity that's another story. To each his own. Do the work and save your $30-40.

    But be careful. Its damn easy to spend that at the bar in the meantime -- even in Pattaya. I'd rather be giving the money to the girl than the bar. Of course you can stand around all night nursing a beer. But no one likes a cheap charlie. Even if he looks like Brad Pitt.

    Putting on my fire retardant gear now and getting ready to get flamed. LOL.

  15. #19094
    Quote Originally Posted by AliasDonkey  [View Original Post]
    I've been to Pattaya a few time and was wondering if anyone knew of any bars offering darkside trips?

    I asked I-rovers and they said they no long offer this.

    Cherry Bar was mention on the web but have no email / contact info to ask if they still do this also.

    Any leads would be greatly appreciated.

    If not I guess I'll take a stab at going to a Gentlemans Club as opposed to doing both LOL!

    Thanks.
    This might be useful. I have visited a few and I saw no reason to visit that side of town again. And even if you do find something that floats your boat, good luck in getting her to join you at your hotel, which in all likelihood, will be near beach road. Of course, there are plenty of ST options available in those parts, if that is what you fancy.
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