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  1. #44972
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterMonger  [View Original Post]
    BOYCOTT PATTAYA for 2 or 3 years and it might become good again. No matter what they say 60% of their economy relies on Foriegners so we have the power if we are smart and just stop coming here!.
    Yeah let's boycott Pattaya because one newbie and 6 of his friends have been screwed by some people in Pattaya, while their wallets were not adequately filled, and they didn't received their desired services.

  2. #44971
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterMonger  [View Original Post]
    In a city with millions of people I would not say there are lots of options. The biggest problem I have with the food is the quality of the meat, sauce, and rice is all much lower than it was before. Many restaurants were disgusting or super small portions. My other post lists the good ones but just leave Pattaya. A few places you can eat for $2 but most will cost you over $10. Around $50 if you want a steak.
    Pattaya doesn't have millions of people. Chon Buri Province only has 1.6 million population.

    I don't compare the taste of the food I eat with what the food at a completely different restaurant tasted like to an unknown person at an unknown previous time. Call me weird, but I just go on how it tastes to me. I ate at Thai, Chinese, Indian, English, Scandinavian and Australian restaurants. A few were a bit expensive, most were $3-$5.

    ENGLISH is NOT spoken by many except old women over 35.

    Worst English proficiency I have experienced in a long time!
    I don't know. Except for the women working at my hotel, I didn't speak to any over 35. I also didn't attempt any literary or philosophical discussions with the various working girls. For the necessary purposes (chatting before fucking and fucking) all had sufficient knowledge of English to get the job done.

    MINIMUM price for a livable hotel is $20 a night which is NOT cheap in SE Asia. MOST hotels are above $60 a night.
    A quick search shows nearly 900 hotels in Pattaya under $60 per night and under 600 for $60 per night or more.

    I don't live in hotels. They are for short term stays, usually under 2 weeks. Depending upon my plans, the room can be from basic to penthouse. All I need is air conditioning, a private bathroom, wifi and a bed. For 7 nights in a room with all of the above I paid 4445.28 thb, or $133.75, $19.10 per night. The room and hotel was spotless, the location was ideal for my purposes. I guess I'm lucky. I can afford to spend under $20 per night for a room without crying.

    His women are old, try anything he suggested with a girl under 25 and you will probably get limited kissing, a short blowjob, complaining about positions and rushing. The older women have been going without a condom for so long they know condoms are total Bullsh*t. Unfortunately the younger generation have been completely brainwashed and are mostly psycho about using a condom or if you are lucky they want double which means means about $80 for short time no condom at the cheapest. Of course there are exceptions, especially if she let's you eat her pussy and you do a good job, but the normal situation is like the one I have described which has been experienced by me and my 7 mates I am here with in Pattaya. From Jomtien to North Pattaya.
    There you go again, proving your intelligence claims to be grossly exaggerated.

    The girls I spent money on were in the 20-25 range. Working girls kiss for 3 reasons. The first is because the customer negotiated for it and agreed to pay for it. The second is because it can help to speed up the process of getting the session to a satisfactory conclusion. The final reason is because they are enjoying the process. I never have, never will negotiate for kissing, because at that point you might as well be kissing a sex doll (and if you can actually enjoy using a sex doll, you lack any credibility when it comes to judging others interactions with real women). If a woman is kissing me, either she's enjoying it, or she wants to help me enjoy it.

    Of course all of the above (kissing, BJ, multiple positions) are facilitated by personal hygiene. Brush your teeth, wash your ass and crotch. Add in making her feel good and it's a whole different world.

    SOI 6 Girls are desperate to get you to buy drinks or take you up to a room above the bar for a 30 minute rushed session with limited service for $80-100 with drinks and room. Pay Attention to the actual number of girls leaving the bar and who they are leaving with. It isn't going to be you.
    I have no opinion on this, as Soi 6 didn't provide the atmosphere I was looking for.

    Bottom line there are no standards in Thailand except in places like Bo Win. Everything you get you have to negotiate for and it kills the whole vibe for me.
    But you've already stated that nobody in Bo Win will fuck you. So the only place with standards has declared that you do not meet their minimum standards.

    Nothing I got had to be negotiated for. Everything I got was as reported.

    Tomorrow is one of my friend's birthday and after that we are headed back to Bangkok. The off to a different country that is really good but I will never share where it is because there are too many evil people reading this forum who want to destroy every good place just like they have destroyed the Philippines and Thailand!

    BOYCOTT PATTAYA for 2 or 3 years and it might become good again. No matter what they say 60% of their economy relies on Foriegners so we have the power if we are smart and just stop coming here!
    You came there and brought 7 friends and you're saying other people should not go to Pattaya? So the smart move, by your standards, is not what you continue to choose to do?

  3. #44970
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the report.

    Regarding someone going through your pockets while you are in the shower, do you have reason to believe this happened to you or is that just a concern? When shower is separate room from massage room, I put my valuables in my pants and then carry my pants to the shower room with me.
    I put it in an earlier report. My travel wallet is difficult to get money out of, unless you're taking all the money. During a massage I put my watch in the pocket with my travel wallet. After the massage my watch was laying on the shelf next to my shorts. No money was missing. With a regular wallet or money clip something probably would have disappeared.

  4. #44969

    No Kissing No Blowjob = Sex Doll

    So during the pandemic in China things got pretty bad. My girlfriend broke up with me because her parents said if she kept seeing me they would stop seeing her because they were afraid my foreign friends had covid and would give covid to me and in turn I would give it to her.

    At that time I decided to purchase a tpe sex doll on taobao which I paid about $500 US dollars for which is a lot in China. I wasn't sure what to expect but for $500 it was probably the best $500 I ever spent. The mouth, vagina, and ass all had a different shape and a different feeling. In the ass opening I could cum in under 3 minutes.

    Pattaya reminds me of this because if you pricks Don't Force the girls to kiss you and give you good blowjobs then there is no difference in using the tpe sex doll or the Thai woman. I finally found a cute one on Beach Road who was 18 years old from Uzbekistan. When I tried to confirm that kissing with the tongue and the good blowjob was available she said "no way" angry and frustrated I said there's no possible way that a guy is going to get you and agree to no kissing and no blowjob for 2,000 baht short time.

    She replied nobody on beach under 22 years old kisses and on a few do blowjobs!

    STOP! PLEASE JUST STOP!

    My neighbor in my hotel is from India. I heard him start and finish the deed in under 1 minute so I waited for the girl to come out of his room. I showed her a website about an obscure rash and told her it was coming out of India.

    You guys don't require the full services or take only 1 minute to cum and I find about it I will sabotage you in ways you cannot even imagine.

    Stop the insanity.

    MM.

  5. #44968

    No Kissing No Blowjob = Sex Doll

    So during the pandemic in China things got pretty bad. My girlfriend broke up with me because her parents said if she kept seeing me they would stop seeing her because they were afraid my foreign friends had covid and would give covid to me and in turn I would give it to her.

    At that time I decided to purchase a tpe sex doll on taobao which I paid about $500 US dollars for which is a lot in China. I wasn't sure what to expect but for $500 it was probably the best $500 I ever spent. The mouth, vagina, and ass all had a different shape and a different feeling. In the ass opening I could cum in under 3 minutes.

    Pattaya reminds me of this because if you pricks Don't Force the girls to kiss you and give you good blowjobs then there is no difference in using the tpe sex doll or the Thai woman. I finally found a cute one on Beach Road who was 18 years old from Uzbekistan. When I tried to confirm that kissing with the tongue and the good blowjob was available she said "no way" angry and frustrated I said there's no possible way that a guy is going to get you and agree to no kissing and no blowjob for 2,000 baht short time.

    She replied nobody on beach under 22 years old kisses and on a few do blowjobs!

    STOP! PLEASE JUST STOP!

    My neighbor in my hotel is from India. I heard him start and finish the deed in under 1 minute so I waited for the girl to come out of his room. I showed her a website about an obscure rash and told her it was coming out of India.

    You guys don't require the full services or take only 1 minute to cum and I find about it I will sabotage you in ways you cannot even imagine.

    Stop the insanity.

    MM.

  6. #44967

    No Kissing No Blowjob = Sex Doll

    So during the pandemic in China things got pretty bad. My girlfriend broke up with me because her parents said if she kept seeing me they would stop seeing her because they were afraid my foreign friends had covid and would give covid to me and in turn I would give it to her.

    At that time I decided to purchase a tpe sex doll on taobao which I paid about $500 US dollars for which is a lot in China. I wasn't sure what to expect but for $500 it was probably the best $500 I ever spent. The mouth, vagina, and ass all had a different shape and a different feeling. In the ass opening I could cum in under 3 minutes.

    Pattaya reminds me of this because if you pricks Don't Force the girls to kiss you and give you good blowjobs then there is no difference in using the tpe sex doll or the Thai woman. I finally found a cute one on Beach Road who was 18 years old from Uzbekistan. When I tried to confirm that kissing with the tongue and the good blowjob was available she said "no way" angry and frustrated I said there's no possible way that a guy is going to get you and agree to no kissing and no blowjob for 2,000 baht short time.

    She replied nobody on beach under 22 years old kisses and on a few do blowjobs!

    STOP! PLEASE JUST STOP!

    My neighbor in my hotel is from India. I heard him start and finish the deed in under 1 minute so I waited for the girl to come out of his room. I showed her a website about an obscure rash and told her it was coming out of India.

    You guys don't require the full services or take only 1 minute to cum and I find about it I will sabotage you in ways you cannot even imagine.

    Stop the insanity.

    MM.

  7. #44966
    I went out the other night with some friends and we all agreed that town is kinda quiet now. We went to the popular Heaven above even though I don't like to visit because it's always crowded. Well it was indeed quiet this time but I looked around and there weren't many lookers amongst the ladies. I'm not into paying the rates that are being asked for in gogos or even soi 6 for the most part so I went to a GC for a short time still just a 1000 baht plus 300 for the room.

  8. #44965
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Safety and security didn't appear to be an issue. At no time did I feel any undue risk. However, keep your money with you, or locked up, if you leave the massage room to shower. There are some who will go through your pockets.
    Thanks for the report.

    Regarding someone going through your pockets while you are in the shower, do you have reason to believe this happened to you or is that just a concern? When shower is separate room from massage room, I put my valuables in my pants and then carry my pants to the shower room with me.

  9. #44964
    Quote Originally Posted by GentileBear  [View Original Post]
    Both of these ladies who were good companions in bed have messaged me on Line asking me 'When I Back' - How did they get the ability to compare notes about me? The two never met around me. I am thinking it is slow over there in Pattaya, or it's just the time for them to Text all their old line contacts from a month or 2 months prior. But I got a text from both of them today in a time-span of less than 20 mins!?! Wow.
    Don't assume they compared notes about you because they asked when you are coming back. Even chicks who are not hookers ask me that all the time. It is just a normal thing that people ask.

  10. #44963

    Ladies Compare Notes via Line

    Both of these ladies who were good companions in bed have messaged me on Line asking me 'When I Back' - the crazy thing is Nim, the better looking one to the left. Red lipstick. Works in a bar by Prime Burger (Tree Town area) - and the other one works in Soi 6 bar. How did they get the ability to compare notes about me? The two never met around me. I am thinking it is slow over there in Pattaya, or it's just the time for them to Text all their old line contacts from a month or 2 months prior. But I got a text from both of them today in a time-span of less than 20 mins!?! Wow.
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  11. #44962

    The truth

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    There are plenty of food options, and I found them all to be enjoyable. So many expats bring their food with them. You can get pad thai right next door to a place serving bangers and mash. Prices are excellent. If street food and night markets are your thing there are plenty of options.

    English is spoken by many. Better communication leads to better outcomes. Hotels can be found for crazy cheap prices. Drinks are also cheap, in the bars and in the stores.

    Most girls offered MSOG. One girl discovered there was no condom in the room and immediately offered BB, only asking that I pull out. All gave BBBJ without hesitation. One took the CIM and only complained because she wanted to ride my dick. She eventually thanked me after I got her off with some hard finger banging combined with spanking.

    The Soi 6 girls were too desperate and grabby. That whole vibe turned me off. However, many guys are going to love that. Walking Street, Soi 6, LK Metro, Soi 13/1 and Soi Boomerang all had a more relaxed atmosphere.
    In a city with millions of people I would not say there are lots of options. The biggest problem I have with the food is the quality of the meat, sauce, and rice is all much lower than it was before. Many restaurants were disgusting or super small portions. My other post lists the good ones but just leave Pattaya. A few places you can eat for $2 but most will cost you over $10. Around $50 if you want a steak.

    ENGLISH is NOT spoken by many except old women over 35.

    Worst English proficiency I have experienced in a long time!

    MINIMUM price for a livable hotel is $20 a night which is NOT cheap in SE Asia. MOST hotels are above $60 a night.

    His women are old, try anything he suggested with a girl under 25 and you will probably get limited kissing, a short blowjob, complaining about positions and rushing. The older women have been going without a condom for so long they know condoms are total Bullsh*t. Unfortunately the younger generation have been completely brainwashed and are mostly psycho about using a condom or if you are lucky they want double which means means about $80 for short time no condom at the cheapest. Of course there are exceptions, especially if she let's you eat her pussy and you do a good job, but the normal situation is like the one I have described which has been experienced by me and my 7 mates I am here with in Pattaya. From Jomtien to North Pattaya.

    SOI 6 Girls are desperate to get you to buy drinks or take you up to a room above the bar for a 30 minute rushed session with limited service for $80-100 with drinks and room. Pay Attention to the actual number of girls leaving the bar and who they are leaving with. It isn't going to be you.

    Bottom line there are no standards in Thailand except in places like Bo Win. Everything you get you have to negotiate for and it kills the whole vibe for me.

    Tomorrow is one of my friend's birthday and after that we are headed back to Bangkok. The off to a different country that is really good but I will never share where it is because there are too many evil people reading this forum who want to destroy every good place just like they have destroyed the Philippines and Thailand!

    BOYCOTT PATTAYA for 2 or 3 years and it might become good again. No matter what they say 60% of their economy relies on Foriegners so we have the power if we are smart and just stop coming here!

    MM.

  12. #44961

    Pattaya wrap up

    My 8 day visit to Pattaya ended Sunday. There were things which I enjoyed and things which I didn't.

    Climate options are either hot and humid or raining, hot and humid. Daily heat index often exceeds 120°F, rain does make it comfortable except for the humidity. I'd recommend bringing an umbrella and hoping for rain.

    There are plenty of food options, and I found them all to be enjoyable. So many expats bring their food with them. You can get pad thai right next door to a place serving bangers and mash. Prices are excellent. If street food and night markets are your thing there are plenty of options.

    Getting around is easy and cheap, and it's a very walkable city. Baht buses are everywhere and Grab is quick and cheap, wait times of 2-3 minutes.

    English is spoken by many. Better communication leads to better outcomes. Hotels can be found for crazy cheap prices. Drinks are also cheap, in the bars and in the stores.

    My sessions, on average, were excellent. It's been since I broke up with my last girlfriend since I've had girls kiss like that. Most girls offered MSOG. One girl discovered there was no condom in the room and immediately offered BB, only asking that I pull out. All gave BBBJ without hesitation. One took the CIM and only complained because she wanted to ride my dick. She eventually thanked me after I got her off with some hard finger banging combined with spanking.

    The constant calls of "massage ka" were a bit annoying. Walking past 5 spas, each with 5 girls out front all saying the same thing gets old. The Soi 6 girls were too desperate and grabby. That whole vibe turned me off. However, many guys are going to love that. Walking Street, Soi 6, LK Metro, Soi 13/1 and Soi Boomerang all had a more relaxed atmosphere.

    Safety and security didn't appear to be an issue. At no time did I feel any undue risk. However, keep your money with you, or locked up, if you leave the massage room to shower. There are some who will go through your pockets.

    Overall I'm satisfied with my visit, and may return to give it another shot.

  13. #44960
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterMonger  [View Original Post]
    These are BoWin girls 32 km northeast of Pattaya but they will not service non-asians anymore.

    Show us the trash you are getting.

    I think it is possible to find a longterm Thai girlfriend if you demonstrate you will support her family but the prices in Thailand are out of control and it is only going to get worse.

    Prove me wrong with more than just your words! I will meet any of you outside and you show me something I don't know. I have been mongering since the beginning of ISG.

    Boycott Thailand. Maybe in 10 years they will learn their lesson, kinda like China right now!.
    Sorry. I didn't know I needed your supervision to watch me fuck. I typically prefer to fly solo, since any man interested in watching my naked ass makes me nervous. Clearly the only way you'll accept anything is if you see it for yourself.

    Just spitballing here, but maybe your inability to get laid is tied to your inability to communicate effectively, your inability to interact with reality, or your inability to recognize your own failures.

    I have no current interest in getting a long-term Thai, or any other nationality, girlfriend. Not sure where you're coming from on that. Not sure why that would be a topic of discussion on this thread. Further evidence of communication issues?

    Maybe the Bo Win girls just no longer find it advantageous to do you. Anyone with an IQ over 90 would require more than 1 data point before reaching a conclusion. I don't have the time or desire to test your hypothesis. Maybe next time.

    How long you've been mongering is irrelevant. If you want to get technical, my first mongering experience was 45 years ago. However, there was a 30 year period, when I seldom had time or desire to pay for what I was getting for free. Once I was no longer interested in putting forth the effort, I took the easy, pay as you go route.

    There are a few things which intrigue me. First, how can a self-proclaimed, highly intelligent man (something you've failed to demonstrate), not recognize the inescapable reality of YMMV? I've personally compared experiences with 3 trusted friends with the same girl. Three of us gave her rave reviews, while the fourth considered her below average. I've read reviews from many mongers with differing opinions. None of them are wrong, because this is all subjective. Your experience does not equal my experience.

    Second, why do you bother? If I walk into a restaurant and the service sucks, I walk out. I don't scream at everyone to leave because I'm not getting good service. I don't insist everyone should boycott the restaurant. I simply go where my needs will be met. If a friend asks me, I'll share my opinion, but they can make their own decision. If I couldn't get laid in Thailand (arguably the easiest place in the world to get laid), I'd pack my bag and get on a plane headed elsewhere.

    Finally, do you understand basic math? Even in Pattaya the ISG community makes up a small percentage of the active mongers, and the majority has clearly disagreed with your assessment. You're asking all vegans to boycott McDonald's and expecting McDonald's to notice.

    A boycott by all of ISG could only make the situation (as you see it) worse. Most ISG members are westerners. Take the westerners out of Thailand for 10 years and you get a new generation who has no interest in us. They have been getting everything they need from the Korean and Chinese mongers. Show up, be respectful of the culture, be friendly, keep a positive attitude, and you get the things you want.

    Didn't you already declare that you're out of here?

    Now for everyone else, Pattaya really isn't my cup of tea. I can recognize why so many people are so passionate about it. It's quick and easy to find a red light district, I did it without even trying. Getting around is a breeze. Options for mongering are unlimited. In my experience, the women are either quite passionate or quite willing to make you believe they are passionate. Although my sample size is small, things like DFK and BBBJ are more readily available than in Colombia. No girl asked me for a tip, or offered extra services for an upcharge. No girl appeared disappointed when I offered no tip.

    Food, lodging and common items are cheap. Baht buses are cheap and convenient. 7-11's are everywhere, the food is quite good and everyone has a smile for you (unless you walk around constantly whining). At no point did I feel any safety or security issues, except for traffic. Even the touts and beggars were easy to deal with.

  14. #44959
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Has anybody been to this FKK style club on 3rd Road or even stayed at its hotel, eaten in the restaurant.

    Facilities look amazing. Karaoke rooms, indoor pool, bedrooms are very smart. Might just have to give this a try on my next trip.
    There's been barely a mention of the place since it first opened six months ago so I doubt that it is doing well. By now I would have expected a few reviews and I don't see that. There are a few comments are about the location and opening times but that's it.

  15. #44958
    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    When Japanese and Korean guys are present, the rest of us have problems competing with them too. People that really know Pattaya understand this.
    Just a detail: instead of "Japanese" read "Chinese / Taiwanese".

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