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  1. #28464
    Quote Originally Posted by Bollyking77  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:
    Geez King, perhaps your post was meant to be informative and helpful but as you can see from most member's reactions cheeky cheap charlies with a self-described game are not really appreciated and sorry to say just perpetuate misguided prejudice's. Not sure if it's a budget issue with you, if so understandable but if not I would loosen the strings and who knows you may end up enjoying the experience of buying a drink for the locals without looking for something in return.

  2. #28463

    Freelancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Bollyking77  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

    1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

    2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

    3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

    4. Give a shot to Tinder and WeChat nearby function. Sometime you may find beautiful girls here. ThaiFriendly did not work for me and I hate its messaging system. So don't waste time on it.

    5. On Soi 6, if a girl quotes you 1000, you should counter with 800. Tbh that's a very good price for 30 min boink, and the ones who don't accept that should be done away with.

    6. Another big con-game is ladies drink. Never ever buy them. Just buy your drink and get on with the game, since your objective to be let sit in the bar is already met with that. And if your goal is to pick up a girl from that bar, don't order a drink for self unless you can somewhat sense that your target (s) is interested in going out with you. Otherwise just skirt from outside. Enquire barfine the first thing, that evinces your interest to pick up a girl and not just dawdle there. Some are 300 but a lot I see these days 400-500.

    7. Try Insomnia and other clubs if you're in to freelancers. I really find them more easy going than establishment girls. Avoid beach road as lot of skanks and oldies there, they don't show a good sign of health.
    ฿700? For a decent freelancer that sounds like a group rate. How many in your group to get it down to that price?

  3. #28462
    Quote Originally Posted by Bollyking77  [View Original Post]
    3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.
    Since you are a young man in your mid 30's with OK game why bother paying the hookers? Pick up the freebies.

    I don't mind at all paying 2500 for an hour of soapy massage and fuck with a talented 25-30 YO Thai woman who knows how to handle a cock. I had recently a very nice session in Sabai Room.

    Yes Agogos are expensive but if I want to play with a 20-25 year old Thai body with nice natural tits in my hotel bed then I have to spend some cash. This one in the picture costed 1500 + 3000 + drinks.
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  4. #28461

    Palace Happy Hour

    Apparently, Palace has happy hour now. Unfortunately, it starts at 01:30 AM. One of a kind.
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  5. #28460
    Quote Originally Posted by Bollyking77  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

    1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

    2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

    3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

    4. Give a shot to Tinder and WeChat nearby function. Sometime you may find beautiful girls here. ThaiFriendly did not work for me and I hate its messaging system. So don't waste time on it.


    5. On Soi 6, if a girl quotes you 1000, you should counter with 800. Tbh that's a very good price for 30 min boink, and the ones who don't accept that should be done away with.

    6. Another big con-game is ladies drink. Never ever buy them. Just buy your drink and get on with the game, since your objective to be let sit in the bar is already met with that. And if your goal is to pick up a girl from that bar, don't order a drink for self unless you can somewhat sense that your target (s) is interested in going out with you. Otherwise just skirt from outside. Enquire barfine the first thing, that evinces your interest to pick up a girl and not just dawdle there. Some are 300 but a lot I see these days 400-500.

    7. Try Insomnia and other clubs if you're in to freelancers. I really find them more easy going than establishment girls. Avoid beach road as lot of skanks and oldies there, they don't show a good sign of health.
    Responding to you in no specific order.

    6 There is a reason why Indians are not admitted to clubs or bars or have to pre-purchase a drink at the door.

    5 1000 TBH is a reasonable price to pay a Soi 6 for ST. I would expect your experience would sub par if you did in FACT knock the price down to 800-900 Baht.

    For a guy who claims he goes to Pattaya once every 2 years I am surprised by your meanness.

    1 Accosting women may be acceptable where you come from but I do not think it is appealing to Thai women.

    2 I think you are having yourself and the forum on if you are claiming to be fucking beautiful 25 year old women for 800 TBH.

    4 TF works just fine, is the problem with the 10 minute wait between messaging? Buy premium while you are there you CHEAP CHARLIE.

    3 Only once because you don't buy drinks and are not allowed back in? I don't see gogo's as setting any trends. Since you have eliminated almost every other form of acquiring sex in Pattaya you are stuck with Soi 6 who by the way probably detest you because of point 5.

  6. #28459
    Quote Originally Posted by Bollyking77  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

    1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

    2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

    3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.
    Being touchy feely with any woman in public places is a big NO NO in Thailand and you will soon get yourself into to problems should you carry on. Also Bars in Pattaya refuse admittance to people from India. The girl is doing a Job, if you refuse to buy her a LD as you advise then of course she is going to ignore you and be snobby because you think she is going to provide her company to you for free. Let me give you one bit of advice. If you want real fun in Pattaya you need to be prepared to splash the cash at least a little, or you are just going to be a miserable cheap charlie. You think a Soi 6 BG is going to let you fuck her for 800 baht? A good looking Girl will make more on Drinks and tips then let you fuck her for 800 baht, maybe with a older and uglier girl would go for 800 baht. You get what you pay for. And as they say in Pattaya "No money No honey good bye darling".

  7. #28458
    Quote Originally Posted by HectorG  [View Original Post]
    Is Line the preferred mode of communication among Thai girls now?
    Yes, it's more popular than Whatsapp in Asia and all the girls use it as data appears to be cheaper than voice.

  8. #28457

    Excellent report

    Quote Originally Posted by Bollyking77  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.
    Bollyking, excellent report. I had to Google "Line ID". Is Line the preferred mode of communication among Thai girls now? I've used WhatsApp in the past with girls I've met in clubs. Good call on Insomnia too. That's a great discoteque and I would guess 95% of the girls in there are WG.

  9. #28456
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Some also have food and a pool
    I went to homepages of G clubs and facebook, but I found only one club that has a pool (Heaven). Are there some others?

  10. #28455

    Some tips from. My recent trip to Patts

    Hi,

    I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

    1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

    2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

    3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

    4. Give a shot to Tinder and WeChat nearby function. Sometime you may find beautiful girls here. ThaiFriendly did not work for me and I hate its messaging system. So don't waste time on it.

    5. On Soi 6, if a girl quotes you 1000, you should counter with 800. Tbh that's a very good price for 30 min boink, and the ones who don't accept that should be done away with.

    6. Another big con-game is ladies drink. Never ever buy them. Just buy your drink and get on with the game, since your objective to be let sit in the bar is already met with that. And if your goal is to pick up a girl from that bar, don't order a drink for self unless you can somewhat sense that your target (s) is interested in going out with you. Otherwise just skirt from outside. Enquire barfine the first thing, that evinces your interest to pick up a girl and not just dawdle there. Some are 300 but a lot I see these days 400-500.

    7. Try Insomnia and other clubs if you're in to freelancers. I really find them more easy going than establishment girls. Avoid beach road as lot of skanks and oldies there, they don't show a good sign of health.

  11. #28454
    Quote Originally Posted by Linyjo  [View Original Post]
    This is classic passive aggressive behavior of a bar girl.
    Actually, it is not. I have only shared a fraction of the story.

    In general, you are quite correct and you offer great advice on the subject. But, the responses I predict for Secret as being a typical BG are rarely even slightly accurate. A number of times I have predicted that she was about to ask for something or do something a BG would likely do, but she doesn't. She mostly has been acting like a normal woman who is depressed and unsure, who desperately wants to be loved but doesn't believe it will happen and who is doing something she finds repugnant and had never thought she would end up doing, so she holds back, and is afraid to open up. When she had to face remaining a BG for longer than what she was prepared to handle, facing men who degrade her, make fun of her, use use for fun and laughs, well, it finally made her so depressed she didn't want to talk to anyone about it. When you think you are bad, you tend to draw away from those you think good so you can stop thinking about how bad you think you are. I try to help her out here, reminding she is not bad, as she is trying to help her family.

    She is starting to open up a bit more. I will be over there in 4 to 5 days but she has asked me nothing lately about me coming over. She did say she missed me finally, but it was "Miss you", not "When are you coming here to see me?! I miss you so much but you are ignoring me! Why? You find another girl?" That is BG talk! Secret never has been like that.

    Anyway, the key thoughts are that we need to be careful. I am keeping a pretty good head on my shoulders here and not going off the deep end. If she stays a BG much longer I could see her staring to wonder why I am not doing more financially for her. I can understand a girl who is dying at her job wondering why her "rich" BF isn't helping her out much. Well, God lets us go through bad stuff and he doesn't help us much, but we hope he can at least give us comfort in our suffering and hope, eventually, for a better life. Which is what she is wanting for her and her family.

  12. #28453
    Quote Originally Posted by HectorG  [View Original Post]
    I would also like to know more about Gentlemen's Clubs in Pattaya. How are they different from GoGos or Beer Bars?
    Depends on what type beer bar you are talking about. G Clubs are like beers bars on Soi 6 in that you pay for a room to fuck the girl in. Sometimes you will find better decoration in a G Club. Some also have food and a pool. At some G clubs the girls will dress better {evening dress) and put on better makeup. A gogo is more of a strip club where in most they do not take clothes off. They pretty much shuffle around on stage to music.

  13. #28452

    Gentlemen's Clubs

    Quote Originally Posted by BambooPete  [View Original Post]
    Is this the one with swimming pool?
    I would also like to know more about Gentlemen's Clubs in Pattaya. How are they different from GoGos or Beer Bars?

  14. #28451

    Happy A Go Go and Windmill

    Made recently a visit to these clubs. In Happy, they were blocking Indian guys at the door, a doorman had a sign saying 200 (or 2. 000) baht to enter, the other two were just blocking a group of guys (a very old Black Guy not good looking was also blocked), because its in the end of an alley they have time to decide what to do. I am Caucasian and was allowed to enter without delays, inside there were mainly Japanese, in a ratio to Caucasians around 15/1, so I wonder if sooner or later this will be just a Japanese Go Go.

    In terms of the place it was very expanded since last year, some external bier bars disappeared to make way to a bigger structure now with 3 stages, it was not full but still a large attendance. In terms of girls, there were definitly some lookers, it was an welcomed view after a beach road walk where 95 % of the Women were in the zone 3-4. Girls were not pushy for Lady drinks something is always a plus in my opinion. During my stay there was a Special show with some nude dancing from good looking girls, drinks were 145 Baht. I enjoyed my stay, it will be on my list of future visits.

    Now Windmill, I left with mixed feelings. No doubt its the most naughty place in town for nudity and interaction with the girls, many years ago Whats Up also had this kind of environment but I never saw nothing like Windmill. The very big downside was the terrible look of many of the girls, unbelivable. When I left I could not understand how they could put many of those women on a stage, its not their fault but the management, I think the ones who went there recently will understand what I am saying. There were some nice girls, but the terrible ones shouldn't be on that job. Drinks were 140 Baht.

  15. #28450
    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    But this morning she texted me some sad faces. I asked why, as the night before she was going out shopping with friends. She told me she was going back to work at the bar again. Ugh. I asked why and she said she still had a responsibility to her family.
    This is classic passive aggressive behavior of a bar girl. She did not ask you for money directly, she just let you know she needed some money and was waiting for you to offer. She knows you like her and is playing into your feelings to get you to help her. She says she stopped working the bar and took a real job but now she is going back to fuck a bunch of different guys everyday because her family needs help. This is your cue to save her from having to sell her body and to save yourself from imagining her banging a bunch of guys that are not you. She wants you to be jealous and to pay her to not be a hooker.

    None of this means she doesn't like you, I would guess she probably does. You are kind to her and treat her better than most guys she runs into. You are attentive and communicate with her which helps her not feel so lonely and empty when you are gone. She is a girl and she wants to feel emotions and be in love just like you do, so you both are playing the game, just on different terms.

    I have some similar experiences as you are having.

    The communication cycle is normal. At first you text everyday, all the time. But after a while that becomes a bit boring and you start to get busy with the real life in front of you instead of the fantasy and memories you left behind. So a few mornings you don't send a message early, you don't send the typical "good morning, have a great day, thinking about you" text. By afternoon you get the, "Why are you ignoring me", "have you forgotten me already" or the passive aggressive "contact me after your friend from last night leaves". To avoid problems you make sure you say good morning every day and then the fun turns into a chore. You start feeling like this is more work than it is fun.

    The messages start drying up and life is busy and a few days go by. You try to keep it alive every few days with a "thinking of you" or just reducing it to sending some kissing emoji's and some smile faces. The texts stop for a while.

    Then you plan another trip and revive the messages. Tell her you miss her and you coming to see her. The messages will pick back up as your now back in play. Things will go back to "normal" and soon you be back on track and sitting on a plane licking your lips thinking about your secret is waiting for you to arrive.

    Do not doubt that she likes you, I am sure she does. But don't be a tool, be real and keep in mind that at the end of the day, it's all fun and games for both of you. The emotions and the I love you's make the time together more fun and satisfying for both of you. Keep that alive and keep on keeping on. Just be sure to also keep your head on your shoulders and your feet on the ground.

    She loves you when you there but thinking she loves you when your gone, can be a fatal fantasy for a man searching for love in all the wrong places.

    XOXOXO.

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